We roll the same way read/follow directions, taking time. You got way better luck then me as flashing/testing anything first time would be getting a woman stop in, 15 phone calls, texts, emails, etc, neighborhood kids being loud, or ask what doing. If you notice us BMW drivers dont just push start and enjoy the drive experience, we constantly eyeing the gauges, with some anxiety, waiting for a check engine, or something to go haywire costing some $, its a slightly toxic relationship where when car runs good, and drives good first time "as it should" we get excited like its to be celebrated. 🎉😁. Love the videos, you always calm, and smiling, you ever swearing at the car, scraped up hands, thinking I'm done. 🙏😊
You can also just mix an arbitrary known proportion of both 91 (or 93) and E85 in the same tube, and do basic math to find the correct ratio between Pump fuel and E85
this was super helpful. i have a f10 n55 i think this is the route I’m going to go. thanks❤️ edit: how do you know much of each octane to mix when it’s time to fill? is it easier to wait until your almost empty?
When I go to fill again I use the same calculator but I just adjust the fuel level percentage to the current level at that time and then it tells you how much to add of E85 and the 91 or 93
Why don't E85 pumps just have a digital readout with the %ethanol ? Or better yet, just premixed at E25 or E30. Or even better, if the car be automatically read the content ethanol in your tank, and calculate how much more E85 you need to pump.
From what I've seen you get around 430-440whp with a better overall power curve since the HPFP isn't struggling to keep up. My data logs showed that my stock HPFP was not really keeping up and was close to crashing whenever I did WOT on E30.
The car will run normally I assume, it just may not run efficiently since it’s tuned for E30 mixture. I would think it’s only bad if you’re doing WOT on the E30 map with no E85 than it might be a problem. But if you’re just driving causally it’ll be normal.
so do you always now have to put in 4.9gals of e85 every time you fill up? My question is that since now you have the exact numbers to fill up on e30, you would always put 4.9g of e85 in your car right?
Well I dont always fill up with exactly the same amount left in the tank. It just fluctuates depending on my tank level at the time I fill up. I just use my calculator and adjust the 'current fuel level' and it'll calculate how much I need to put in
@@InlineSixAuto Oh okay. So all numbers would be the same except your current fuel tank level. And it would be different if you went to another gas station because of the different ethanol levels right?
@@user-jd3ss3yw6o Yes to your first statement and yes also to your second question. I wouldn't think it would be a big difference maybe a few percent different but itd be best test the percentage again just to be sure
Not to ask a dumb question lol but is there like a plus or minus rule to this? Or should it be tested every time due to each gas station possibly being different? I just used this method and the same app but I gave each a minus 2 so I potentially wouldn’t go over E30. I do have the BM3 stage 2 E30 with the OEM HPFP.
Ideally you should test the E85 once a month. Im not 100% sure about this but from what I’ve seen, it’s actually better to have more E85 then less. Because with the Stage 2 E30 map, the engine is now expecting a certain amount of something from the combustion of each cylinder, If you have less than what it’s expecting (less than E30) then the engine doesn’t run as efficiently as it could be loosing out on power. However if you do. If you use too much E85, and the mixture is higher then E30 you could crash the HPFP as mentioned if you’re always doing WOT. It’s kind of a trade off. I did some new data logs recently and it shows my HPFP has gotten worse in terms of keeping up the target psi.
@@InlineSixAuto thanks bro! I just ordered a testing kit. I used the “horsepower gauge” in my Xdrive system to see what its putting out when I was on 93 stage 2 it would hit like 440-450ish and stop. I did the E30 blend and it hit past 480 into 500 and maxes out lol. Idk if that’s a legit or best way to read that. I can’t find it on BM3 how to measure ponies. My HPFP is still running the same though. I did shorten the Plug gaps to .022.
@@SuperSailorboi I don't think that gauge is that accurate lol. Best way to get accurate HP numbers is to take it to an actual dyno. you should be at around 420-430hp at the crank and then 400hp at the wheels if you have the N55 EWG which is what I have, with these same mods. From what I've seen the numbers are pretty consistent across most other people's experiences with these same exact mods on their N55 EWG. The next thing to do would be to upgrade to a stage 1 HPFP so you could run the Stage 2+ E30 map. Still deciding if I should do that myself
I have nothing but issues in 3rd ,4th, and 5th gear with BM3 OTS30 map and 91 octane. I tried multiple blend % and I still get timing issues. 1st and 2nd are perfect. New coils, and new plugs. How do your timing logs look in 3rd - 5th gears?
My timing is near perfect with the E30 OTS map. I had bunch of timing issues when I just using the Stage 2 91 OTS map though. The E30 blend seemed to have fixed my timing issues on my engine. Honestly not sure why youre still having issues. Timing issues is usually caused by low fuel quality from what I've seen so that's why I would think the E30 would help.
It’s definitely a fun car to build but from what I’ve heard from people who have E90 M3s, the M3 is more driver experienced oriented. It’s a much more fun car to drive. And I would say so because the F30 feels more like a car for the average commuter and more for comfort, not so much for a car enthusiast or someone who enjoys driving. Even my E90 328i feels a bit more engaging than my F30 even though it much faster lol.
@@InlineSixAuto I had the same thoughts but after i installed a KW V2 and MHD Stage 2+ this is the most fun car ive ever driven. I know the steering feel of the E90 is better but the F30 just goes, its stupid fast and the V2 is fcking awesome!
So you didn’t need any kind of mods to run the e85 just the tune itself ? I’ve seen kits to run e85 on the f30 but wasn’t sure if it was required . I have a N20 328i by the way
Well yess and no. You don’t need any mods to put E85 in your car. The car will still run. However, if you don’t tune the car to account for the E85, the car doesn’t utilize the E85 because it’s tuned for regular 91 or 93 has so you won’t be getting the additional power out of it. And for pretty much all tunes, you would need a Downpipe at least to run the tune. For Bootmod3, the Stage 2 E30 map, it requires a Downpipe at the least. However it is recommended to upgrade the intercooler and the charge pipe because you’ll be pushing higher boost and the stock chargepipe most likely will burst since it’s plastic.
@@InlineSixAuto ok good to know. I do currently have full bolt one with a catless down pipe and I’m running the same stage 2 tune on bootmod3. I’ve been wanting to go E85 for a while now but I was always under the impressions you needed a special kit to run e85 like upgrade fuel lines and and a enthenol sensor. But if it’s just like how you showed in your video basically just making sure your mixtures are right and flashing the E30 tune then I’m going to give it a try. Thanks for the quick reply!
@@georgerodriguez9564 Oh okay then yeah all you'd have to do is exactly what I did in the video. I think if youre running a higher percentage or full e85 then youll need all that other stuff. Not 100% sure though. But yeah man no problem. Have fun with it !
@@MotoRacer171 its the high pressure fuel pump, and you can run the stock fuel pump up to an E30 mix which is what I did in the video. Any mix higher than E30, an upgraded HPFP will be necessary since then you could crash the stock HPFP
We roll the same way read/follow directions, taking time. You got way better luck then me as flashing/testing anything first time would be getting a woman stop in, 15 phone calls, texts, emails, etc, neighborhood kids being loud, or ask what doing. If you notice us BMW drivers dont just push start and enjoy the drive experience, we constantly eyeing the gauges, with some anxiety, waiting for a check engine, or something to go haywire costing some $, its a slightly toxic relationship where when car runs good, and drives good first time "as it should" we get excited like its to be celebrated. 🎉😁. Love the videos, you always calm, and smiling, you ever swearing at the car, scraped up hands, thinking I'm done. 🙏😊
Well done - an excellent presentation !!
You should always flash the tune before fueling up with a certain mix for a specific tune. Just in case you can’t get it to flash.
thats a good point. didnt really consider that
That intake sounds so good!
Right!
What intake???
@@kody710 CTS Turbo
I’m going to try this. Time to make some popcorn
You can also just mix an arbitrary known proportion of both 91 (or 93) and E85 in the same tube, and do basic math to find the correct ratio between Pump fuel and E85
this was super helpful. i have a f10 n55 i think this is the route I’m going to go. thanks❤️
edit: how do you know much of each octane to mix when it’s time to fill? is it easier to wait until your almost empty?
When I go to fill again I use the same calculator but I just adjust the fuel level percentage to the current level at that time and then it tells you how much to add of E85 and the 91 or 93
1/4 tank......(3)......gallons of E-85.....and fill up the rest 91/93....male sure ur plugs are 1 step colder and you will feel n see the difference
@@hassantalib3426 which plugs do you reccomend? I have 2012 n55 f10 with catless DP boost& charge pipe going to get Intercooler soon
@@tmack8784 NGK...
good video mate!
Why don't E85 pumps just have a digital readout with the %ethanol ? Or better yet, just premixed at E25 or E30. Or even better, if the car be automatically read the content ethanol in your tank, and calculate how much more E85 you need to pump.
Very good video.
So if I wanted to flash back to 91, I just run the tank really low then fill up with 91 and flash back to 91 at the station correct?
Correct!
Nice video!
Will bm3 flexfuel do everything for you? Just add gas with e85 and GO?
Unsure about that since I've never used it
What spark plugs and set to what gap?
1 Step Colder NGK 97506 plugs gapped to 0.022
If you were to have a stage 2 Dorch hpfp and a walbro 450 lpfp, what numbers you think you would be getting?
From what I've seen you get around 430-440whp with a better overall power curve since the HPFP isn't struggling to keep up. My data logs showed that my stock HPFP was not really keeping up and was close to crashing whenever I did WOT on E30.
what if you drive with the E30 map when you do not have the E85 mixture in the tank?
The car will run normally I assume, it just may not run efficiently since it’s tuned for E30 mixture. I would think it’s only bad if you’re doing WOT on the E30 map with no E85 than it might be a problem. But if you’re just driving causally it’ll be normal.
so do you always now have to put in 4.9gals of e85 every time you fill up? My question is that since now you have the exact numbers to fill up on e30, you would always put 4.9g of e85 in your car right?
Well I dont always fill up with exactly the same amount left in the tank. It just fluctuates depending on my tank level at the time I fill up. I just use my calculator and adjust the 'current fuel level' and it'll calculate how much I need to put in
@@InlineSixAuto Oh okay. So all numbers would be the same except your current fuel tank level. And it would be different if you went to another gas station because of the different ethanol levels right?
@@user-jd3ss3yw6o Yes to your first statement and yes also to your second question. I wouldn't think it would be a big difference maybe a few percent different but itd be best test the percentage again just to be sure
Any sensor u had to change to run that to i have a f series n55 2016 full bolt on
nope
Not to ask a dumb question lol but is there like a plus or minus rule to this? Or should it be tested every time due to each gas station possibly being different? I just used this method and the same app but I gave each a minus 2 so I potentially wouldn’t go over E30. I do have the BM3 stage 2 E30 with the OEM HPFP.
Ideally you should test the E85 once a month. Im not 100% sure about this but from what I’ve seen, it’s actually better to have more E85 then less. Because with the Stage 2 E30 map, the engine is now expecting a certain amount of something from the combustion of each cylinder, If you have less than what it’s expecting (less than E30) then the engine doesn’t run as efficiently as it could be loosing out on power. However if you do. If you use too much E85, and the mixture is higher then E30 you could crash the HPFP as mentioned if you’re always doing WOT. It’s kind of a trade off. I did some new data logs recently and it shows my HPFP has gotten worse in terms of keeping up the target psi.
@@InlineSixAuto thanks bro! I just ordered a testing kit. I used the “horsepower gauge” in my Xdrive system to see what its putting out when I was on 93 stage 2 it would hit like 440-450ish and stop. I did the E30 blend and it hit past 480 into 500 and maxes out lol. Idk if that’s a legit or best way to read that. I can’t find it on BM3 how to measure ponies. My HPFP is still running the same though. I did shorten the Plug gaps to .022.
@@SuperSailorboi I don't think that gauge is that accurate lol. Best way to get accurate HP numbers is to take it to an actual dyno. you should be at around 420-430hp at the crank and then 400hp at the wheels if you have the N55 EWG which is what I have, with these same mods. From what I've seen the numbers are pretty consistent across most other people's experiences with these same exact mods on their N55 EWG. The next thing to do would be to upgrade to a stage 1 HPFP so you could run the Stage 2+ E30 map. Still deciding if I should do that myself
I have nothing but issues in 3rd ,4th, and 5th gear with BM3 OTS30 map and 91 octane. I tried multiple blend % and I still get timing issues. 1st and 2nd are perfect. New coils, and new plugs. How do your timing logs look in 3rd - 5th gears?
My timing is near perfect with the E30 OTS map. I had bunch of timing issues when I just using the Stage 2 91 OTS map though. The E30 blend seemed to have fixed my timing issues on my engine. Honestly not sure why youre still having issues. Timing issues is usually caused by low fuel quality from what I've seen so that's why I would think the E30 would help.
Have you fixed your issue having similar issues on e30 for 340i
Can’t decide between f3x x35i or e9x m3. This seems more fun to build 🤔
It’s definitely a fun car to build but from what I’ve heard from people who have E90 M3s, the M3 is more driver experienced oriented. It’s a much more fun car to drive. And I would say so because the F30 feels more like a car for the average commuter and more for comfort, not so much for a car enthusiast or someone who enjoys driving. Even my E90 328i feels a bit more engaging than my F30 even though it much faster lol.
@@InlineSixAuto I had the same thoughts but after i installed a KW V2 and MHD Stage 2+ this is the most fun car ive ever driven.
I know the steering feel of the E90 is better but the F30 just goes, its stupid fast and the V2 is fcking awesome!
So you didn’t need any kind of mods to run the e85 just the tune itself ? I’ve seen kits to run e85 on the f30 but wasn’t sure if it was required .
I have a N20 328i by the way
Well yess and no. You don’t need any mods to put E85 in your car. The car will still run. However, if you don’t tune the car to account for the E85, the car doesn’t utilize the E85 because it’s tuned for regular 91 or 93 has so you won’t be getting the additional power out of it. And for pretty much all tunes, you would need a Downpipe at least to run the tune. For Bootmod3, the Stage 2 E30 map, it requires a Downpipe at the least. However it is recommended to upgrade the intercooler and the charge pipe because you’ll be pushing higher boost and the stock chargepipe most likely will burst since it’s plastic.
@@InlineSixAuto ok good to know. I do currently have full bolt one with a catless down pipe and I’m running the same stage 2 tune on bootmod3. I’ve been wanting to go E85 for a while now but I was always under the impressions you needed a special kit to run e85 like upgrade fuel lines and and a enthenol sensor. But if it’s just like how you showed in your video basically just making sure your mixtures are right and flashing the E30 tune then I’m going to give it a try. Thanks for the quick reply!
@@georgerodriguez9564 Oh okay then yeah all you'd have to do is exactly what I did in the video. I think if youre running a higher percentage or full e85 then youll need all that other stuff. Not 100% sure though. But yeah man no problem. Have fun with it !
Were you able to switch fuel types without hanging up the pump and re doing the payments? Seems like a lot of time at the pump
No I've just been paying for each individually. It's not that much longer.
@@InlineSixAuto Gotcha, what fuel pump did you use?
@@MotoRacer171 I still have the stock fuel pump
@@InlineSixAuto I thought you had to change the low pressure pump for e85?
@@MotoRacer171 its the high pressure fuel pump, and you can run the stock fuel pump up to an E30 mix which is what I did in the video. Any mix higher than E30, an upgraded HPFP will be necessary since then you could crash the stock HPFP
What’s your exhaust setup bro?
Just the high flow Downpipe with a resonator delete with some exhaust burble adjustments in BM3
@@InlineSixAuto do you have the MPE exhaust?
@@simonsays9572 No just regular stock muffler
What lip is that
It’s the JHP Lip from Suvneer. Have it linked in the description if you want to check it out
Good vid🫡
Awesome hp 400
Funnel
@ 1:05 HAHAHAHAHAHA I've never laughed so hard...