Steve Hillage The glorious om riff time signatures explained

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  • Episode #21 of the "Johan Explains" sereies. I discuss one of the most mesmirizing and spellbinding prog riffs of all time: The glorious om riff by Steve Hillage
    I talk about how to understand it. I also show you how to count the time signatures.
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  • @frankzzappa
    @frankzzappa หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i've waited 30 years for this!

  • @isomeme
    @isomeme ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh WOW!!! Thank you! I have been obsessed with trying to figure out the time signatures of this song for 45 years. I've experimented on my keyboard, asked musician friends, and endlessly listened to the song, all without success. And in one video, you just explained everything. Now i need to find a new quest. 🙂

  • @timflatus
    @timflatus 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I just sing "Iao zai zao mai mao tai tao nao" when I'm playing it. No shade on Joe Blocker whose interpretation of the song is legendary, but it's kind of senseless not to analyse the playing of Pierre Moerlen, who actually co-wrote the tune. You have barely begun to explain the song itself. I'd advise everyone to listen to the original Gong version off "You" (the recent remaster is best). It relates to the lightning struck tower of the tarot - zero the hero hires a master builder to build the invisible temple he has seen in his vision of the planet Gong then his whole world comes crashing down when he realises the illusory nature of his quest. It's the climax of the whole Radio Gnome story. Moerlen's playing was quite extraordinary.

  • @livelearnlaugh1674
    @livelearnlaugh1674 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have studied this song too. the drums are in a poly meter shifting from compound to simple metre
    ? After green steve hillage made an album called for to next, the title is named after zx spectrum code. i have put the om riff into computer basic. the beep command in zx spectrum works with time not measures and you can look at the om riff in this way. there are beat cycles that last for one unit. ( this is the length of the first 6 beats. which I believe fall on the start of the measure but because of the rhythmical displacement feel like a turnaround on an anacrusis. the longer beats are twice the length and occur on every other beat from beat 8 onwards. I I think this part of the riff occurs 9 times. But basically when you put into together it allows the drums to shift between compound and simple metre. say 6/16 and 27/16 which would be 33/16 which could work as 4 bars of 2/4 and one bar of 1/16 or 3 bars of 12/16 and 1/16 beat.

    • @johansteenslandmusic3699
      @johansteenslandmusic3699  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That sounds a bit complicated :-) But thank you so much for your input! I'm nerdy enough to get excited over stuff like that. Welcome to the channel!

  • @Jack-D-Ripper
    @Jack-D-Ripper 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I never smoked or took drugs, whilst all of my friends did.
    This Psychedelic/Prog' rock scene music was so amazing that I didn't need drugs.
    I saw Steve Hillage and the amazing Joe Blocker live, in the Bradford Civic Hall, back in 1977.

    • @johansteenslandmusic3699
      @johansteenslandmusic3699  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Must have been great to see Hillage with Blocker live, Jack!

    • @octaviussludberry9016
      @octaviussludberry9016 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      All of those musicians took drugs. That's why their music is good.

    • @Jack-D-Ripper
      @Jack-D-Ripper 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@johansteenslandmusic3699 I have to admit that it was great to see Steve, but Joe Blocker was a sight to behold. He was such a lively and for the time, very different drummer; pretty amazing, all-in-all!

  • @user-xt8km1dh4q
    @user-xt8km1dh4q 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Superb!

  • @moontan91
    @moontan91 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nice playing and tutorial!
    that "Green" album is something i haven't heard in a long time.

  • @ianedmonds9191
    @ianedmonds9191 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    LSD is not a bad thing. It really opens your perception to other ways to look at stuff.
    The other drugs are questionable in terms of self improvement but acid really is different.
    Luv and Peace.

    • @johansteenslandmusic3699
      @johansteenslandmusic3699  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I am a strict "Say no to drugs!" guy. But, that's just me.

    • @ianedmonds9191
      @ianedmonds9191 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@johansteenslandmusic3699 That's fair
      Each to our own.
      Luv and peace.

    • @octaviussludberry9016
      @octaviussludberry9016 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's why bands like New Kids on the Block were shit and bands who took drugs were better.

  • @anthonybowers7571
    @anthonybowers7571 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You did an amazing job on that ! One Man Gong :) PS. I come from an era where the drummer "accompanied " the music and probably didn't do any of the maths :) any Jazz influenced drummer would have that capability , in theory ..so if it's an odd riff to be followed , they do the necessary ..very creative drumming anyway ..you are a great musician too

  • @Arisen_Rhez
    @Arisen_Rhez 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great cover!

  • @seethroughhead505
    @seethroughhead505 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A great analysis. Steve himself has said he loves the riff because it's in 4/4 but doesn't feel like it. I doubt Blocker was thinking in terms of time signature - more so that he knew where the riff was and was playing about with it. However, the real time signature fun begins in the middle section of the track (3.12) , where it goes to 7/4, 3/8, 3/8, 3/8 and then gets more complicated! My bass cover is here: th-cam.com/video/zTfjnOy4tbc/w-d-xo.html

  • @ChrisRamsbottom
    @ChrisRamsbottom ปีที่แล้ว

    Great thank you! I saw Steve Hillage not long ago and I was very disappointed that the drums were so low in the mix that I couldn't distinguish between the 4/4 and 6/8 sections on the drums. I've been trying to work these time sigs out for nearly 50 years I guess!

  • @johansteenslandmusic3699
    @johansteenslandmusic3699  ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The quintuplets are not perfect, but I wanted the intro fill to be un-edited. What track should I do next?
    Check out my own prog music here: th-cam.com/play/PL_U3NccJSuComtLr-cf6lw6-tKvtBk7KC.html

    • @RickTransit
      @RickTransit ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hillage's Dervish riff, please! I can play it with no problem (there's something intuitive about it) but I can't figure out the time signature. All I know is that there's an odd number of beats in it, because Pierre Moerlen plays dead straight through two rounds in the last section on Fish Rising but the on and off beats are different each time!

    • @isomeme
      @isomeme ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Perhaps "Nevermore" by UK?

    • @johansteenslandmusic3699
      @johansteenslandmusic3699  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ha ha "quintoles" is Swenglish! It's "quintuplets".

    • @maxcuthbert100
      @maxcuthbert100 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hurdy Gurdy glissando.

  • @mickstanger164
    @mickstanger164 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    nice...if you're looking for another Hillage track, can I make a request for the Dervish Riff - that's one tune I've never been able to suss out.

    • @johansteenslandmusic3699
      @johansteenslandmusic3699  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks, Mick! I am currently down with Covid, but I will definitely look into that one. Cheers!

    • @johansteenslandmusic3699
      @johansteenslandmusic3699  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh, Mick, that WAS a bit of a challenge :-) But I could not help myself, so I have started working on it. Thanks for this suggestion!

    • @johansteenslandmusic3699
      @johansteenslandmusic3699  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Here you go, Mick: th-cam.com/video/2Fd67Sd0KF4/w-d-xo.html Hope you like it!

    • @livelearnlaugh1674
      @livelearnlaugh1674 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      dervish riff. 3/4 bars of 4/4 broken into 12/16 2/8 3/4 5/8 5/8 if we consider 8. to be a dotted quaver 8 to be an undotted quaver 16r to be a 16 beat rest we can write it like this Metre=12/16 | 8. 8. 8. 8 16 | metre= 2/8 | 8 8 | meter = 3/4 | r16 8 16 8 8 16 8.|| metre 5/8 | r16 8 16 16 16 8 | 8. 8 16 8 8 | Just say no, is propaganda on the war on drugs. It was also targeting steve hillage in free festival culture. and later in rave culture. Of course all drugs and good and bad sides to them. But just say no is very outdated and damaging to society as it encourages prohibition and makes harm reduction more difficult to integrate into society.

  • @kjbunnyboiler
    @kjbunnyboiler 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What’s the intro music?

    • @johansteenslandmusic3699
      @johansteenslandmusic3699  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for asking! My channel intro music is actually a rough mix of part of the intro to my concept album Crossfade. You can learn more about Crossfade here: johansteenslandmusic.com/prog-story-video-series and keep an eye out for the first music video release on October 1, 2023.

  • @64blip
    @64blip 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Props for Joe Blocker. Outlandish drummer. Replaced by Clive Bunker for live. I mean how good can it get?

  • @petegaslondon
    @petegaslondon 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice work dude - I just had to sign up
    And become Subscriber No 666 ! Gulp

    • @johansteenslandmusic3699
      @johansteenslandmusic3699  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Welcome to the channel, Pete! Well, someone had to take that omnious number 666 :-)

  • @pietrohasenmajer2248
    @pietrohasenmajer2248 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The explanation seems more confusing than the music itself.
    4/4 = 32/32. But the division in in triplets:
    (3 + 3 + 3 + 3) + (3 + 3 + 3 + 3) + (3 + 3 + 2) = 12 + 12 + 8 = 32

    • @johansteenslandmusic3699
      @johansteenslandmusic3699  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for your comment! Your subdivision is mathematically correct. However, it does not reflect what they (or Blocker) is playing. There is that displacement of the One to take into account. And that makes it a bit more complicated.

  • @Davesax1965
    @Davesax1965 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sadly ? 🙂

  • @octaviussludberry9016
    @octaviussludberry9016 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You know Hillage took drugs don't you? You inow Gong tookndrugs don't you?
    You know lots of musicians take drugs don't you?