SILVER STACKING: 3 SCAMS I FELL FOR IN MY 1st YEAR!
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All good advice, Sarge! I sell on ebay and the fees makes it difficult to make a profit that is worth my while. Selling and buying on other platforms like Instagram seems better but is much more difficult because of scammers. It is great that you brought it up.
Thanks SC! yes, and on IG people can make some good connections if they are patient and check references
I'm new and looking for the best value, not pretty graded coins. I 100% agree with DO YOUR RESEARCH,,,, I attended a small auction the other day with some silver. I was interested in a 10 oz bar they had. I checked spot price and what the bar would cost me from a reputable dealer. One hour later I watched that bar sell for $390 + tax, ($415.35). I could have ordered the exact bar from a bullion dealer for $266.00 and no tax, with free shipping..
yep! and going "weight + value" is not a bad strategy. I'll talk about why I choose soveirgn coins in a future video (even though it is a lot more premium).
Thanks Sarge appreciate the advice Happy Stackin eh!
Happy Stacking!
Some pretty solid advice Sarge. Great video. It's important to learn what we're actually doing here so it's good that you're helping educate newer stackers.
thanks Anxious!
Great topic...I wish people would point out scammers by name All the time... we want to keep the younger generation in coinage
Go check out the IG silver blacklists.. they DEFINITELY name shame
Hi Sarge I don't know How I missed this video. Thanks!
Way to go Sarge! This video blew up. 👏🏾. Keep ‘em coming.
That's the plan!
Solid info, Sarge.
I've only bought once off of IG, and it was from a TH-camr.
That was early 2020, and everything went well.
However. I've purchased from Ebay many times ,but from reputable dealers, though.
Good stuff!
Great tips Sarge. I think every stacker has a story of something maybe they got scammed on or overpaid for. Much like your Morgan experience from eBay. Definitely some good advice for people in this video. Also, nice pieces of silver your were showing 👊🏻
thanks SSS! Got a letter that I think is from you, waiting to open it on a future vid
@@PreppingWithSarge great. Yeah I sent you one. Glad you got it.
I wish I started stacking in 2009. Lol. Excellent advice Sarge.
Thanks Triple P 👊✈️
Wow this video is blowing up well done! Good info to know about as well bro here for it!
Appreciate it!
The most important advice is that new stackers should learn and first understand the basics of stacking. Great video. 👍🏼
Absolutely!
Great vid Sarge! You are going to help a lot of people with this man! awesome job! 😁
thanks brother!
New subscriber- not a new stacker but always appreciate great advice and content. Thank you
Thanks for the sub!
"They are not rare, but will become rare." Great line and piece of advice
thanks for watching! Do you have any stacking goals for 2023?
@@PreppingWithSarge I'm going to go slow. I won't be panic buying but this years goal will be to accumulate 200 ounces and I will be at the 500 mark. Eventually I will top off at 1000 ounces with some junk silver for barter if needed.
Great advice! Thank you for sharing all of these lessons 😊
Glad you like them!
We all learn from each other's experiences. Thanks for sharing it will help so many of us learn and be alert!
You bet!
This video is great. Not only is the information good but I loved hearing it while going through a stack of random premium coins. Thanks 🏆
Awesome, thank you!
Great tips and well explained Sarge 👍
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Much appreciated Oceans!
Thanks for the share, Sarge. A lot of Beginner falls these scams
Yes they do, I did!
Very good information thanks for sharing my sweet friend
appreciate you Miss Southern Belle!
Great advice for all sorts of things.
PS-Nice stacks
Glad you think so!
Nice video! Great tips for the newbies! Perhaps a follow-up on Pocket Pingers, magnets, and maybe even scales and calipers, for those who insist on buying at estate sales or from individuals, would be good too.
Great suggestion!
Hello Silver collections
good job
thanks Jrose!
Great video!!! Yeah my first year stacking I was all over the place. I finally started watching some of the silver stacking channels I didn't even know that was a thing. Silver Seeker help me figure it out. Thanks for the video I just started watching you. I subbed because of the prepping I didn't even know you were a stacker. Great video keep on prepping and stacking!!!!
Thanks Rob!
Hello there my friend, as always you have something great to share with us. Enjoy and have a blessed new Year to you and family.
Thank you! You too!
Golden Eagle Coin is way less expensive than APMEX. Paper check is cheapest option, no state sales tax, free shipping on orders $99 or more.
never heard of them, but thanks for the tip
Try SD Bullion
Hey Sarge, full watch, have a Great Wednesday:-).
You too!
Woww nice collection Sarge my friend 🥰
Keep safe always 🥰
thanks Rose Marie! you too!
@@PreppingWithSarge welcome my friend 🥰
Hello from Maine
Hello there Maine!
You did what I did in the beginning, I bought a variety of what I liked then put them in capsules. Alot of the same coins and rounds too lol
I started storing all my soveirgns in capsules when I noticed overtime they were getting dinged and mis-colored from being handled. It adds more cost though... =(
@@PreppingWithSarge it's a way to keep them nice looking, most of mine are in capsules as well.
Dang Sarge! You shared all of my hustling tricks. 😜
Hahah 👊
Oh good. TH-cam needs more channels with close ups of guys fondling their coin collections.
so I'll see you next week?
@@PreppingWithSarge you know it!
JM Bullion has an easy to understand chart page on their web site with current spot prices. Strangely, JMs Ebay prices are sometimes lower than buying directly from their web site. As far as selling, I like to stick with Eagles and Maple Leafs. Oddball coins and plain rounds are harder to sell at full value.
Check your state sales tax law too, I can't remember the dollar ammount but in Maryland I have to purchase over a certain ammount to avoid sales tax.
solid advice on the taxes! I didn't know JM had an ebay store too... interesting
Shop around for your silver prices. They vary considerably.
Yep! 💯
My neighbor is a coin dealer and he said since we are close friends the best advice he can give me on stacking silver, is to stack gold.
I definitely wish I had leaned more into gold when I started
Bonjour moncopai
Bonjour!
You have a great channel.
I also get great info from the
Campbells coins channel
appreciate it! I will check them out
Stay away from collectibles unless you're willing to hold them for a very long time or pass them to relatives when you kick the bucket, buy Bullion at the bottom.
I’m inclined to agree… though as a Star Wars fan, I have to admit I get tempted LOL
@Prepping With Sarge I buy collectibles on Christmas and my Birthday I treat myself to a nice coin but the whole year I only buy bullion or generics.
Good advice man. Thank u for the video
My pleasure. Keep stacking 👊
good to know..i am thinking of getting some silver...apparently, EVERYTHING we will use will need silver...
Yes, has a lot of industrial uses.
always do your due diligence. for precious metals,i always only goto trusted sources...so many scammers out there
100%
Nice sharing.. thanks for the great tips….
thanks Liza!
ebarf is fine for people that don't have local stores, clubs, or shows. Living in Philly, there are club meetings and shows every week, and big shows within an hour at least 6 times a year.
Ebarf ha! I love that
Just enjoy watching your coin collections..
I appreciate that!
Good stuff!
Thanks!
Wow! I send you light love and positive energy and I wish you all the best. Thank you for Valuable and nice sharing dear friend 🌟👌🌹💕👍Like Like 718
Thank you! You too!
Great tips sarge thanks for sharing 🙏
thanks for watching!
You have a good message. I don't agree with your title at all though. These aren't scams. OverPAYING is one thing, scamming is a totally different thing. The first two points you make are stupid BUYER mistakes. We ALL do it. It's part of the learning process. Also, you got me interested when you said this advice was coming from 2009 lessons, then you talk about Instagram? You should consider titling the vid more accurately. Still deserves a thumbs up for the core message.
appreciate the comment, and yes, first year or two of stacking is definitely a learning curve
I started coin collecting first I have a few certain silver coins I only buy 1964 Kennedys half dollars or pre owned coins from a coin shops around the UK. I've moved onto Antique coins any thing from BC celtic, & early Roman AD. My next coin is a 1986 Eagle, & pre Britannia prototype of sorts two pound silver coin.
love it! keep stacking!
Thanks for the advice
Any time!
Just for reference,I bought a 10oz Tudor Beast for $466 au, 12 months later i decided to sell it for $500,$34 dollar profit not much but in order to make that i had to sell it for $580,Ebays fees were over $79. Buy now i payed the post. Ebay sucks to sell on.
Private person to person transactions seem to have the most profit… but be careful… get references! Lots of scammers out there 👊
Super great video bro !! 🦞👊🏻👊🏻🦞
thanks Cajun!
Ya, apmex was my first silver buy, got 1 and 5 oz a few days before they went out of stock in 2020
Thanks, glad you are in the game! Keep stacking
the morgans tend to be overpriced...the dealer treats them like nuismatics but when you go to sell them they become junk silver in their eyes..
Yes I think that’s fair. It wasn’t always this way… most of my Morgans were bought for $25-30 between 2009-2011. I don’t remember exactly what spot price was, but I think it was around $24 an ounce. Then later, silver dipped to $14 an ounce and a lot of people got out. During pandemic a lot of people got back in (and some new stackers) so premiums went up on EVERYTHING
Great video, the REAL IG sellers are killin' it with prices and almost always beat big dealers prices even with the added shipping cost...But your right it seems to be the biggest new scam to steal photos and pretend to sell on IG so if you dont know them dont buy...
That’s it right there! There are some great sellers on IG but new buyers should go slow… check references and remember that if something looks “too good to be true” then it probably isn’t
@@PreppingWithSarge 👍
When i first started buying ASE's on ebay i just checked the comps and figured if i could pick one up a few bucks under then i was doing good.
yes, if you can find a good price, do it, I just want people to be careful and check seller's rep
I got in, in 2020 I just bought as much as I could with the little savings I had at just under 13 ato from there I have bought at the lowest premium I can find I have also picked up a few things at online auctions.
slow and steady wins the race right? keep stacking!
Great video and info bro
Appreciate it
live and learn, in everything...live and learn
I won an EBay auction for a one ounce Panda for $4.00 - knew it was a scam the minute they let me win at that cost. Yes I bought some MS70 and PF65's and only got melt price on them when I had to sell them. Guy just put on our neighborhood page that he needs to sell a .999 31 ounce silver bracelet from Italy for $99. I told him the melt on that should be close to $600 - take it to a dealer or even to a pawn shop. He doesn't want to, so I told him no thanks, if you're willing to lose $500, then I'm not willing to take a chance that it is .999 pure. Are those the Morgans you put in your will to me?
hahaha my Morgans will be willed to my Step daughter if I don't end up selling them in retirement
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The coin game is ruthless!! Scammers everywhere.
You know it 👊
There are still some great deals on eBay if you know where to look.
just make sure it is a reputable seller!
Good advice. You got my sub. 🇨🇦🇨🇦👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks for the sub, was just over at your channel, new subscriber for you too!
Got silver off ebay today, under melt. Been on a hot streak.
Under melt? Wow.. i’ve never been that lucky. Was it a last minute snipe?
@@PreppingWithSarge sometimes, but not usually.
Check out my videos recently. Been on a hot streak since November!!!
RESEARCH is ESSENTIAL folks👏🏽
100%
We all make mistakes and good advice.
thanks Oggie!
The advice is not that you dont buy on eBay the advice is you buy where it’s the best price and from someone who is trustworthy. I sell on eBay and nothing here to be upset at
im newer to stacking silver, yet I used to collect coins for numismatic value years ago. Now I only collect\stack silver and one of the worse ways ive seen lately is this 90 percent junk silver, it is so high, they are over 30 dollars a oz.
Yes, it skyrocketed in the last few years… it wasn’t like that only a few years ago
Joey, I hear you that junk is higher - if you're building weight, bullion coins/rounds is the way to go, for sure. But if part of your strategy is prepping, junk is the cheapest way to get fractional amounts, and it's universally recognized. It's a good idea to have some. Plus, you can take it out and play with it and jingle it! But yeah, for wealth preservation, it's bullion all the way. I never thought of myself as much of a prepper - until the unrest, and then the coof, and now the general direction of things, not to mention any number of natural things that may occur. I found myself acquiring some more pew pews and their food, long-term foods for the pantry, and or course, more silver! So now I guess I am one!
Great information
Thanks Mylinda!
Listen everyone.... I cannot express this enough... Education educate yourself before you start stacking find a local dealer who you can become friends with buy from them or a reputable dealer so when you go in to purchase you will already know the important things that you need to know talk to people that stack don't go in with blind folds on or you could get ripped off know what you're doing before you start stacking make sure that you educate yourself make sure that they don't have a problem testing your metal before you leave if they have a problem with that then don't buy from them walk away if you still get ripped off after everything I've just told you then it's your fault not there's 👍😎
Solid advice 👍
@@PreppingWithSarge 👍😎
nice sharing dear
I'm a sucker for toned eagles on ebay 😂🎉
Be careful about “toned” coins too… some people use chemicals to artificially tone coins… if it didn’t happen naturally then it actually LOWERS coin value. Of course, I also feel like “if it’s your coin you can do what you want with it”
But people who use artificial toners SHOULD be disclosing it to buyers.
They do look pretty though
Very nice video sharing good information 👍
thanks my friend!
Number 2 almost got us too!
thanks for watching Ernie!
I think I bought through your link. I don't really know how to tell if it worked...
thanks so much Mylinda, I really appreciate it!
Sorry Sarge, but what the definition of overcharge that you mentioned several times?
E.g. What's the allowed max price of 1 oz silver round when 1 oz silver spot price, let's say, is $25?
Would be better if you could come up with some examples, some particular purchase experience and so on, instead of talking many general stuff. But thanks anyway for the video.
thanks for the feedback. I was thinking about doing some examples when I visit coin shops, but I will do it in a way that doesn't call out individual owners or name their shop.. also, some of these coin shop owners do not want people filming inside for security reasons... would have to be from the parking lot... but good idea, will take it into consideration.
Oh no! You got a fake coin? EBay is wild! But like you said it’s a learning experience
yes, it was back in 2009
hello we are from the #wbjadventures and we are subscribing to help your channel, keep up the good work ✌
welcome! Was just checking out your channel too
Incrível apresentação. 🇧🇷👏
Thanks Fravia!
Good info! Thank you
You bet!
I found a local coin dealer that has the best premiums... I bought a stack of 2022 Maples for $2 over spot!
What’s the name of the place?
@Prepping With Sarge Fabian Fabian Gold Silver Watauga, TX... He lists all his Premiums Up Front and they vary by popularity...I went back and checked my recipt...it was actually $3 over spot!
@@Euragone68 that's a sweet deal. can't blame you for that.
I couldn't agree more, went to 3 pawn shops one didn't buy silver one offered half spot price on 10 Oz's then third said they where magnetic and fake. My reason for selling was to trade up to a gold dragon pendant I wanted from one of the pawn shops. Only way I'll add to my stack is if the price falls to the lowest again.
Thanks for the comment, and great channel name, hahah love it!
Haters = engagement! That’s how we gotta think about it lol
exactly!! They can hit that dislike button. Their hatred makes me stronger!
I've seen that a lot of the older sellers don't educate the new collectors. They make money off the new people because they can't fool the old guys anymore.
there is some unethical stuff that happens in our niche for sure. Definitely check out those IG Blacklists for people to avoid, they WILL name shame the scammers
I do agree to check the sellers and reviews but eBay is far and away one of the cheapest places to buy. And with fakes keep up with who you buy from and eBay will back ya up
yes, my mistake was not paying attention... that being said, I did some research on ebay before I recorded this video, and the prices were much higher than Apmex. People wanted $40 per Eagle PLUS over-inflated shipping. By comparison, an Eagle on Apmex is currently $36 (still a high premium) but no shipping if you order over $200.
It's not even close. But maybe I'll do some videos comparing them. That's a good idea actually
Appreciate you sharing the info!! Always a good idea to learn from each other!! Thanks for sharing!! 🪶🤘🏼🪶
Thanks for watching 👊
I seriously have been at this game 47 years. All local purchases through 4 separate dealers. Never have I ever bought from any mail order process. DONT BUY SILVER IN PLASTIC CONTAINERS WHAT A WASTE.
I put mine in capsules as I have found that over the years, just handling them has caused minor damage. But yes, that adds to the cost quite a bit
Great Advice
thanks!
My best wishes my good friend
thanks brother!
I buy off ebay but only from the big companies, and I find great deals...
Maybe I will get a down vote, but new buyers probably should look else before Apmex.
Talking about overcharged, they are top tier on that.
Just shop around and don't buy fake stuff.
I appreciate the comment, no downvote, just disagree. My experience has been different
L 75👍🏻🤝tq for sharing Bro.great coins colection..
Thank you too! Welcome to the channel, was just checking your videos out!
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The Mexican coin at 5:38 was nice. What’s that one called?
Libertads. They have them at Apmex (see my link in the description). One thing about Libertads though... the premiums are higher than Eagles and Maple Leafs. But yes... they are pretty
@@PreppingWithSarge probably grab it for my dad. Premium and all. Thanks for the info!
Not exactly a scam, maybe - but here's a Fellow Stacker asking for advice: I bought three unique 2oz "Stacker Rounds" from one of the biggest online dealers which they list on each of their different sites as "0.999 fine". They're beautiful, no question, but they have no marking of weight nor purity and they test at only 0.900 fine on my Sigma. I've tried many different ways to test them and they always come up as 0.900. So I asked the bullion dealer if they verify them and they answered that, since they are certified and they only buy from certified distributors, there's no need for them to verify when they receive stock. This is a big concern for me since they advertise these stackers as 99.9% and I will only ever be able to present them or sell them as 90.0%. Any ideas, folks? Do the big bullion dealers all play fast and loose like this? What can be done --- should I just pay the return shipping since they seem to have no interest in correcting the problem with me (and everyone else who may have bought these stackers)?
wow, that IS concerning, especially if they are advertising it at .999
It sounds like you already spoke to them about the problem. I would take pics and videos of your tests, send them THOSE and state that you are concerned for other buyers. Then return for a refund. Encourage them to do their own test, and inform that you are going to post your results online, including their response. That's about the best you can do I think...
And from what I know, this is pretty unusual. It sounds like (as you indicated) that the problem isn't with the online dealer, but the pourer, and the online dealer is trusting a little too much.. but in the end, it will effect THEIR reputation, so they should care.
@@PreppingWithSarge thanks Sarge, very logical suggestions. They usually show the mint that produces each of their items like Golden State Mint or Highland Mint, evidently these came from KOMSCO which is Korean, I think? That's a little unclear, but anyway they're an intricate design and likely cast rather than pressed from standard blanks. I'll take your advice - I paid a higher premium for a unique design in 2 oz of silver, and now it feels like the bait and switch promos that some companies use to take advantage of people, often elderly. Anyway, thanks - I'll stick with more recognizable Rounds from now on
Speaking of fake silver I am looking to procure some. My nephew loves to play with my bullion, however, he already lost a five ounce bar! I was looking around for fake/stage silver bars so that he can handle them unaware... Any leads?
They sell some copper stuff on Apmex and JMB, much more afforable for "play" Even cheaper would be if you find a "silver pourer" or "silver artist" and ask them to sell you some aluminum bars. I don't have the equipment to melt, but a bunch of other silver channels do that stuff. If you search "silver pour" you will find them
@@PreppingWithSarge Thanks buddy!
I stay away from eagles to many fakes.