I never really cared for the online aspect of RDR2. I bought the game for the single player and I got the story of an outlaw cowboy that made me cry. Worth every penny.
Same as me my man. Never really got into online and also I never played RD1 so i didn't know what I was getting myself into. I changed the way I look at story telling in video games.
I'm still on my 1st playthrough of RDR2's story campaign. I'm sort of in this weird purgatory. I refuse to go see the guy that made Arthur sick. I've know about this games story mode for a long while. I watched lots of videos about the game since I couldn't afford it for the longest time. So, basically, I self spoiled. XD The Story campaign is an amazing ride. But I also enjoy the online mode as it means I can enjoy it with the company of some of my friends. I haven't had the game for very long, but for some people or a lot of people, online mode is where it's at for them after they've finished the story mode. And the longer standing veterans of the game are itching for some new content, like new DLC's that may open up Mexico or add some type of legit train heists, Native American DLC, opening up Guarma in its fullest, more horse coats, more horse breeds (there are a lot more American horses that they could possibly add), more guns, owning houses that you can customize that may replace that camp you hangout at. Some people think that the online mode should be free to get more people into it. And if more people get into it, that means more people will possibly buy more gold bars. And R* likes money. :3
The way Rockstar is mistreating and disrespecting RDR2 and RDO, I'm starting to think that we got the game thanks to Dan Houser and the veteran staff. Now that they have left, Rockstar is a shell of a company with poor management
I really loved Red Dead Redemption 2 and while I’m not into multiplayer in general, it is actually a disgrace how badly Red Dead Online is being treated and how far down the hole of greed Rockstar has sunken to
@Sehajmeet Sohal how did it not gain enough popularity, it sold 45million copies, i get what your saying that bit just not so true at all. It started dying down because of the lack of content from the game. Alot of games provide continuous updates even if the game stops making money or doesnt make money at all. It is yet again still just a business trying to make money and thats all it will ever be now. Games are no longer the niche it was before that only a sum of people enjoyed. And because of that this is the beast we fed and grew and now look at rockstar. Not updating a game that sold 45 million copies. just a joke fr .
@Sehajmeet Sohal I think thats because gta 5 has been on 3 generations of consoles and rdr2 has not been out as long. In the years to come it will also be the same for rdr2 i believe. I truly believe rdr2 was made for more and the only reason it didnt generate revenue is because of the way the game was treated. Which is rockstars fault. Undoubtedly. I just think saying it wasnt popular sounds weird to me considering the average number of buys normal games get.
@@ASSASSIN19923The first RDR was even more egregious. I think around 39 of the 95 achievements were multiplayer ones, many of whom ridiculously specific and/or luck based. Your only hope to get them all is boosting, especially at this point in the cycle of the game.
It really struck me just how detailed the game is when I’m riding my horse across a train track, and I noticed that the horseshoe coming into contact with the steel rail makes a completely separate noise as it hitting the wood around it, and it’s so precise too. It’s small stuff like that that smacks me in the face with just how much work was put in
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@@johnnyappleswope1821 the best part of Red Dead 2 is going out into the world and explore plus there's plenty do beside the main game like the challenges. The bandit challenges are so much fun.
Firstly, these “The People Versus” videos are incredible, great job man. Secondly, some of that R* concept art is just unbelievable. And to see how they brought it to life in the game is sublime. Such a shame RDR2 is essentially abandoned. I wish they’d just added more single player content like Mexico, with new stories, and added an Undead Nightmare expansion.
@@AdamWest1290 yo that would be fire, vampires maybe more so just cos there is the one in saint denis, but i also agree with the original comment when he said "content like mexico" if that was in, it would be LIT
@@stanettiels7367 i think it could really have thrived with a whole background world of this type of thing. time traveler is in game, so is bigfoot, chupacabra, horses of the apocalypse, etc etc.. all of this expanded upon could give a breath of life to the game that it was missing. red dead always had mystical elements.
At the time RDR1 was current, I wrote a lot of the wiki for it. There were many others, obviously, but I contributed to some 15,000 pages being created or expanded. I even ran the place for awhile. At any rate, often times when I see people use pictures of the characters, they're the ones I captured and added to the wiki, even after all these years.
@@Providence.. I’d say it’s not because the community doesn’t appreciate what this guy does. It just is sort of a seemingly irrelevant place to talk about it. This is over an hour long video discussing the history, production, release, and reception of RDR2 and this guy’s comment is just talking about working on the previous game’s wiki.
Thanks for your service, pard'. I know I benefitted from it greatly when I was consuming everything about it in my first playthrough all those years ago.
I play RDR2 everyday I don't even play GTA anymore I'm not too into modern crime as much as I love westerns I grew up on westerns I love the weapons of this time era I love the dark underbelly of this world And most of all I just love getting lost in the world Just taking out gang camps is fun And when I beat it during the pandemic the storytelling is so awesome that at certain points I actually cried You get invested in the people in your camp it's unbelievable
Yea rdr2 is a masterpiece. I cried too the first time I watched Arthur die. Never had a game hit me so emotionally. I felt so connected with him. One of my favorite games ever made. In fact, I think it’s time for a 3rd play through.
"I gave you all I had, Dutch". That line still gets me to this day. That and Arthur admitting to the nun that he was afraid are the most memorable. I recall early in the game telling myself that I will do 2 playthroughs. 1st as good guy. 2nd as a bad guy. Then afterwards, I came to the conclusion that the good guy route was absolutely perfect IMO, and choosing a bad karma playthru would just tarnish the good name of Arthur Morgan. It still amazes me how before RDR2, seemed like everyone (myself included) were up in arms about the story not being centered around John Marston, who, at the time, was one of the most beloved characters in gaming. All credit to Rockstar and Roger Clark that Arthur is now more loved than John. I hate the conditions these developers had to go thru during production. However, I'm so happy that it wasn't in vain. This game is one of my favorites of all time.
"...but I tried... in the end... I did." Always gets me. Its at that point where you can see the redemption aspect of the overall narrative coming full circle and neatly closing everyting up in the franchise. Such a great scene and dialog, and such a great experince that not just supassed the first one in every way, but also elevated the first one to a new level. Players can experience RDR1 again with a fresh perspective and it makes it even more impactful.
As I get older and the changes, pressures and struggles of life kick in, the line 'You and me, we're more ghosts than people' really follows me. I think about that every day.
Good point. Arthur like most of the crew were completely unnecessary. Should have been a bad ass story about most of the boys and have a few chicks in there like Sadie Adler. Arthur would have worked alot better as a side character npc gang member or second player to use in Co op multiplayer story mode. Now that would have been something new. way more powerful and makes NO sense for the character to jump from Arthur to John as they aren't even related lol.
@@lesliek6192 if john was the main character in rdr2 then the element of uncertaincy of the outcome of the player is gone, there is no hook and a 'what's next', we know John will survive until rdr1 but we did not know what Arthurs fate was. It is to get people hooked and actually interested in the storyline and the 'whats next' keeps the players coming back. Sure RDR2 could have been John doing western stuff like robbing trains and whatnot but you gotta keep in mind rockstar has a whole game to create and keep it interesting and new and fresh, and not some remastered version of rdr1.
Rockstar really just abandoned one of their best selling games of all time and didn't even try post launch. I see so many gta fan boys say "well if you wanted to support the game more you should've bought more gold bars". Since when is it the job of the consumer to force the company to put out quality products? No-one bought gold bars because there was next to nothing to spend it on so why spend your hard earned money on in game currency when they don't even bother to give you an incentive to wanna spend money? Rockstar and take two just expected RDRO to automatically print money for them without putting in any real work and when it didn't they just decided oh it's a failure time to just say fuck It. I dont have much faith in this current Rockstar going forward
"Well if you wanted to support the game, you should've had your parents buy more gold bars" is what they really mean. These are GTA 5 fanboys after all
Dude you're 100% correct. Rockstar does NOT care about it's fans or communities. They do NOT treat their customers/fans with any sort of respect instead treating us like a wallet. When they want more money they release some extremely repetitive dlc to GTA then make every stupid expensive so new or people with not so much money on their character have to buy shark cards. They tried to do this to RDO but since there's not much to really buy in the game people ended up saving all of their money. So now pretty much the entire fan base has the equivalent of millions of dollars and Rockstar knows this. So what it looks like they are pretty much punishing the fan base because they're not going to make any money off of us, so they're not going to release any new content and just let the game die since they can't immediately pay wall people and force them to buy gold bars.
You can't listen to people like that. They are the reason the gaming industry has gone down hill. They constantly reward these companies for sub par games, so nothing will change. I do not blame these companies, i blame those who support them. These problems would be fixed almost over night if people would stop giving them money.
I hate it when the gta fanboys say that rockstar abandoning rdr for gta is a business strategy then whine to rockstar about gta plus even though their game is still alive for 9 years, and they love to say that rockstar is neglecting red dead for good but they don't understand that rockstar don't have the guts to tell its community they won't be supporting red dead anymore because they know they still have loyal fans that still play the game and some even buy gold bars.
RS spent 540 million on innovative resources to give us a milestone in single player gaming. That is rare nowadays. RDR online is to create funds. And they lack the interest in pouring money into something they don't care about. They have created all the assets and market them again. If it's that what it takes to create even more income to make the next milestone I'm OK with that.
RDR 3 online hopefully will get better treatment from rockstar. Considering that game will likely take place at the vary tail end of the wild west era 1914-1919 with Jack. Planes, cars, more semi auto and automatic weapons all exist at this point in time and are common enough in society (at least in cities). Hopefully that will be a separate mode though. So that way people who want a GTA online experience in western rural America can have that with planes and cars basically (Battlefield 1 tech as dlc) but you still have the traditional western aspects and normal stereotypical western DLC. Just with ww1 era technology in the mix. While more traditional western lovers will have a different online mode option that is still based on the western/frontier experience minus most of the planes and cars and ww1 era guns. I guess a more realistic take to the tail end of 1910’s wild West era lifestyle considering rural, remote areas usually are the slowest to want to advanced technology and modernize lifestyle.
@@schpeidermann I'm about 25% of the way through my first run at RDR2. This game is magnificent. I have no problem with rockstar letting this one stand as one of the greatest single player games ever made. I cant believe I waited this long to play it and my jaw keeps dropping at the level of detail. I agree...rockstar's resources are best spent on their next project.
RDR 3 online hopefully will get better treatment from rockstar. Considering that game will likely take place at the vary tail end of the wild west era 1914-1919 with Jack. Planes, cars, more semi auto and automatic weapons all exist at this point in time and are common enough in society (at least in cities). Hopefully that will be a separate mode though. So that way people who want a GTA online experience in rural America can have that with planes and cars. While more strict western lovers will have a online mode that is still based on the western/frontier experience but minus the planes and cars and handheld machine guns.
I always thought a cowboys vs aliens dlc would’ve been phenomenal. I thought it would’ve been perfect given all the alien Easter eggs throughout the game.
@@RobG93G could be a Halloween seasonal event at night in the online called hauntings with different event with superstitious creatures from the late 19th century in creepier parts of the map, Ghost trains Undead rising from graveyards Night folk or voddoo zombies Sasquatch Nosferatus An Ickabad crane bounty with a headless pumpkin dude Witch covens Seasonal event like snow during holidays.
What's tragic is that it was popular. It's just that the fans are mostly older and more responsible with their money, so we weren't gonna be spending on microtransactions especially on a game that rockstar promised would be more single player friendly
@@METALLICAAVENGED A large factor was also that even if people DID want to spend irl money on RD online, there was virtually fuck all to actually buy beside cosmetics
RDR2 is my favorite game of all time I'm so genuinely grateful for everyone who contributed to creating this experience. It really does feel like a real world and I honestly can't get enough of living life as Arthur Morgan
4 years later and I've played through the story 4 times and Online about 4 hours total. One of my favorite games of all time. What the hell happened to you, Rockstar?
They decided they wanted to paid FIRST , then make another great game … and their idea of getting paid was to have make online gold you could buy as a gamer and then do nothing with as they didn’t bother to upgrade the online version
@@craigdurso3005 then ban people with hundreds of hours of real progress just because they picked up a few gold bars on the ground that a hacker left. and then the hacker doesn't get banned. that's why i refuse to play that online shitshow.
It is qctuqlly because of my time with RDR 2 that I decided to become a gunsmith and am currently in school for it. The firearms in this game and the way they work plus the history really got me intrigued to do it.
@@FuckFascistTH-cam same, even if there's a bunch of shit that makes me mad. weapons auto equipping, no ability to remove offhand holster, weird niche bugs that are ignored...
The final act before the epilogue definitely had me in tears many times. The long ride back with the sound track playing after finding out the truth about Micah for example. I completely agree that Arthur becoming a better person towards the end is the best or my head cannon at least. I told myself I’d have an evil play through but after multiple replays I could never bring myself to do it. It’s awful the crunch Rockstar put its devs through to create this masterpiece… but it definitely showed in the end. I can’t think of anything that would have improved the game.
This video is inspiring me to play the story for the 4th time, but as a low honor player, just to experience another side of this insanely amazing game!
I tried it but gave up pretty quickly as i felt so guilty about dishonouring Arthur's legacy so much, every kill was hurting more and more, but I will try again.
I started getting all choked up around 45min as you were going through the characters and their arcs. Then you got to Arthur and played the clip of him saying goodbye to Abigail & Sadie, "You're good women…" - I just started crying. Such a powerful story. I'll never forget it.
It sure has been a hell of a ride since the first announcements, the first videos I watched from your channnel back in 2017 when I barely spoke english to 5 years later, a masterpiece launched and is now an abandoned game. This was a great video, Michael. Thanks for putting such effort in the making of them.
@@awesomezombi1026 Man just stfu with this cliche " rOcKsTaR NoNe dUn HoUsIr gOnE" .People really belive that the work of 1000+ developers is made by one individual The same people who thought that RDR2 will be shit because Lezlie left the company,the same people who thought that Cyberpunk will be game of the decade because CDPR doesn't have microtransaction lol Every game made by Rockstar that I bought (using my brain of course) was solid and I expect the same about the next installment without blindlesly making a purchase without documenting myself about it
Mass Effect (trilogy) and Red Dead Redemption 2 have been the greatest games I have ever played, and have absolutely cried during my first play through. The story line felt so real and felt so raw in both aspects. RDR2 makes me wish to visit the Wild West, and Mass Effect makes me wish to visit outer space as a Space Marine. I know some people will say Skyrim will do that for them, which I won’t argue; for me though, my god, RDR2 just invokes something in me so primal. I love it. ❤
RDR 2 is incredible. I just wish R* would actually support it with story expansions....not the online crap...or at least online should be a secondary focus.
The epilogue is supposed to be "boring", because that it was John feels: He is bored with this "Farmer-Lifestyle". It's a risk, making something boring on purpose, because most will not get it. I didn't get it at first as well, but that was because I enjoyed the epilogue.
@LegacyKillaHD Michael, this is one of your best videos yet. Great script, perfect editing, crisp & clear clips, solid primary sources, and excellent narration. Good job, bud.
I wonder if we'll ever get a conclusion to Charles and Sadie's stories after never getting the DLCs for them that the ending clearly implied... Still, great video man. Love to see these kinds of mini-documentaries and the overviews/constructive criticism you give in them
More like people vs RDO... Single player was an awesome cowboy sim WITH a great story to boot. Don't get that twisted because the online sucked. All online sucks, but RDR2 story mode is legendary and still blows every other game outta the water by a country mile.
@Occifer FigPucker your damn right about that This is my favorite game of all time Funny enough I got this game on my birthday and when it caked out on October 26 2018 I almost had a heart attack for the amount of excitement I had for this game I recently played red dead redemption and read the redemption under nightmare which are both great experiences
RDR 3 online hopefully will get better treatment from rockstar. Considering that game will likely take place at the vary tail end of the wild west era 1914-1919 with Jack. Planes, cars, more semi auto and automatic weapons all exist at this point in time and are common enough in society (at least in cities). Hopefully that will be a separate mode though. So that way people who want a GTA online experience in western rural America can have that with planes and cars basically (Battlefield 1 tech as dlc) but you still have the traditional western aspects and normal stereotypical western DLC. Just with ww1 era technology in the mix. While more traditional western lovers will have a different online mode option that is still based on the western/frontier experience minus most of the planes and cars and ww1 era guns. I guess a more realistic take to the tail end of 1910’s wild West era lifestyle considering rural, remote areas usually are the slowest to want to advanced technology and modernize lifestyle.
It blows every other game out of the water? With what? Because it certainly doesn't do that with its clunky gameplay and baby easy auto aim combat. Even older rockstar games surpass Rdr2 in gameplay, which is the most important aspect for video games. Most third person shooters blow Rdr2 completely out of the water when it comes to factors such as gunplay and difficulty.
@@crossdaboss8914 Yea, most problems seem to steam from the big guy/s with the pocket books. "We want this! " Says the guy with no experience or care for said media- only the bottom line. Absolute crime how poorly everything is handled.
The complete lack of single player expansions/DLC has to be one of the largest and MOST OBVIOUS missed opportunities in modern gaming. Rockstar treated RDR2 like it was going to be the next GTA5 Online and it didn't work because it's a completely different game. There was a sense of community built up around GTA 5 mixed with the style/setting of the game that made it the perfect candidate for an online experience. On the other hand, RDR2 was 100% built around enhancing the single player experience. Even with how the epilogue plays out it seems like at some point there was meant to be more. Charles and Sadie both have so much potential for expanded stories, letting us play as John Marston again, literally HALF THE MAP not being playable until the end of the main game and once you got there it had almost nothing for the player to do. I don't see how Rockstar could have put that amount of time and resources into this world without planning to use it. Undead Nightmare 2 would have been an automatic win, or imagine a remake of the first Red Dead Redemption built into this game. Honestly, with how much this game has dropped off the radar since release, unless Rockstar chooses the use and build off of what's already there, it's not likely we'll see another Red Dead game like this. Another 8 years and $540 million after all this wasted potential would be an insanely risky gamble at that point. Please let this prediction be wrong.
Dude, I’ve been following you since 2017, you were totally my dude concerning anything red dead, I actually remember kinda missing your updates after the release. This feels like a great book end to that journey. Here’s hoping I get to come back for Red dead 3
I've recently decided to finally go for the platinum on RDR2 (and then possibly GTA 5) as a tribute/sendoff for Rockstar Games. RDR2 was their swan song game and the last good thing they will ever produce. They are officially dead to me
@@PainxSorrow That's definitely possible, but very unlikely. I'm pretty confident that whatever trailer they finally decide to put out will not impress me much. RDR2 is the bar, and I guarantee GTA 6 will not come close to it, and it certainly won't pass it. But on the off chance it does, and I'm completely wrong, then I'll act accordingly (by which I mean I'll be sure to pick up a used copy for half price to ensure Rockstar doesn't get a dime from me). But I'll cross that bridge when I get to it. Until then, I will remain justifiably skeptical
@@FuckFascistTH-cam bro they barely care about rdr2 if you think with the advances is tech and the love for the gta series in general that they aren’t going to put their all into gta6 then you sleep bruh it might not impress you but gta6 will literally be a world event
@@PainxSorrow Have you been paying attention? Like at all? Do you have any idea what Rockstar has been going through the last few years? Every single person that made Rockstar what it was is gone. The people who ensured quality, passion, and care are gone. Rockstar is now a shell of the company it was years ago. The new CEO is some ex casino owner who is very open about wanting to focus on microtransactions. There was an interview a couple years ago when they admitted GTA 6 will be more online focused than single player. The fact that you either don't know this (or do, and just choose to ignore it), and say that I'm the one sleeping is hilarious 😂
This is moreso "The People VS Red Dead Online / Rockstar" to be honest. Most people agree that Red Dead Redemption 2 is one of the best games of the generation, if not of all time.
I only recently got a ps4 after years of not having a console. RDR was one of my favorite games I ever played, so I finally bought RDR2 a few weeks ago and I'm playing the story for the first time. The game is simply mind blowing. I don't plan on playing online though. The microtransactions turn me off.
I would LOVE to get to experience RDR2 for the 1st time again! Take your time with it, rushing through it will just take away from all the amazing things that can be explored. Good luck and have a blast
I envy you. I loved every minute of it, but it's definitely catered to a certain kind of gamer. I love to walk (not run) in games to soak in as much atmosphere as possible and take it all in. If you like that type you'll have a blast. Stop what you think you're supposed to do every now and then and just take it in.
If the micro transactions are your hang up for online, you may be releaved to know (the main reason they abandoned it) THERE IS NOTHING TO BUY. I played the online off and on for years, and never once found myself in a situation where I needed gold for something (basically like 1 good horse, some cosmetics, and unlocking roles) and didn't already have enough of it from just doing missions. It's depressing that they added just enough micro transactions to turn people away, but not enough to make any difference in the game, and couldn't make money because people won't pay much for something that does nothing. Most of the fun online was just riding around with your gang, going fishing, hunting, wrecking cops in st. Denis, and Rockstar couldn't figure out how to monetize that. Most of the aimless wandering I would do in single player was just as fun online. I'd recommend giving it a shot. You progress pretty quickly for a while, and you won't run out of new content for a long time, but the best content is the friends you make along the way
This video was trip down memory lane, I remember watching all your videos all the way up to the release of the game and the all the hype behind it was truly magical
I didn't notice how long this video was, and just wow.. it did NOT feel like a full hour! Amazing video, you had me interested in every single minute of this video. Great job!!
What a fantastic vid, exactly what I was looking for. I just finished Rdr2 for the 1st time.... And now I'm obsessed. This video gave me the perfect history lesson. Thanks man!
The one of the saddest things that had happened to RDR2 was no SPDLC and RDO being finished after three years and a nine year old game still getting big updates RDO is in a sad state for one you can’t rob anything Two everything is so damn expensive like the $1000 Pistol before it was cut to 40% permanently after price backlash Three the online story isn’t even finished Four only for players who have played the game for quite a while, There’s nothing to buy Last thing is game in some aspects is better than GTAO
it's still not finished. there are visual bugs that remain to this day from near launch. the absolute _worst_ kind of glitch is something that screws up a piece of clothing or gun on your character. that's what you see on screen 100% of the time unless you play first person, which.. isn't as popular as some might have you believe.
My biggest issue with RDR 2 was how thin the endgame was. It's like Rockstar was saying "Hey, did you finish the campaign? Now let's get you to online". When you're done with the story, there's absolutely nothing to do other than riding around. Money doesn't matter anymore either since you've got pretty much nothing to spend it on after a point.
People to this day still complaining about “realism in games” really don’t get it. This is a one-in-a-life-time experience because of its realism. Just because it is not for them doesn’t mean this approach should not exists. I really love this game’s realism and the overall experience. Everything you do holds weight and the open world is alive and without realism this could not have been achieved to this level of masterclass. 4 years after and it is still a masterpiece Damn! This video actually made me replay it again. I have it on PC but did not finish it. Excited to get home from work and start over… thanks LegacyKilla. Awesome video
My biggest problem with the game is the inconsistencent realism/realism in what I belive to be misplaced areas. Imagine a game where all the resources spent on shrinking horseballs, jacket mud animation etc went into having a truly innovative law enforcement system. No more teleporting psychic cops like in any other rockstar game, but a system of lawmen patrolling the map, ala nemesis system from the mordor games. Don't get me wrong here, I love these graphic details, they all add up to a mind blowing visual simulation. My point is that I wish more of the effort went into furthering game mechanical realism, like a patrol based law system. When I get hunted down by teleporting lawmen, it kind of breaks the illusion that the visuals are working so hard to maintain.
This was an amazing analysis/review/exposition/commentary. I didn’t expect to watch the entire thing in one sitting but it’s just so well put together and fascinating. Bravo and cheers to this legendary story.
46:25 I always wondered why Dutch got so crazy even with Arthur and John around, but looking back, all of Dutch's missions were so much fun! Why go to Tahiti and farm mangos when we can fight the federal government in ever increasingly insane plots and schemes!
4 years after I play that game somehow still gives me chills everything related to that game and to Arthur Morgan. I wish I can replay my 1st playthrough over and over again what a masterpiece
GryOnline's comment about RDR2 being the best open world and not being able to wipe memory of this game just to play it fresh all over again is correct.
Wow - that was great. RDR2's single player was such a great experience. I had missed the RD games that came before it. It was interesting to learn about them. One super minor thing. @42:49 that looks like a wolf. Not a coyote. I only know, because our neighborhood has had an influx of coyotes coming through. They are a problem for people with outdoor pets.
Well.... Time to go back and play through once again lol. I love this game and how you said no one would have thought that we could care more about Arthur than John from the original is spot on because i never would have thought i could be more invested with any other character because in RDR1 John was such a great character and the way he went out was truly sad so when i played RDR2 for the first time i started to become more invested in to Arthur's story and by the end blown away. What a great game
AHHHH yeah hour long video! Don't take this the wrong way legacykilla but I like listening to you to fall asleep. You're not boring, your voice just makes me comfortable enough to sleep.
RDR2 is a masterpiece. It has a plot comparable to Leone's and Tarantino's movies, original and amazing soundtrack, amazing graphic, physics and AI. This is not only a game, it is an art experience that can be loved also from people who hate video games. I wonder when we will be able to achieve this quality again.
Awesome and thorough love letter to an extraordinary masterpiece. I have never experienced such a living world, and I look forward to go back soon again.
I have done mutiple playthroughs and still found New things. Side quests Ramdom ecounters I have not seen Before Mystries i the world. Playing low honour gave me different expirence with how arthur is allot more bitter and selfish. The way he reacts to seans death with low honour and his low honour interaction in chapter 6 were greatm
35:50 hells yes, Legacy getting recognized by our favorite protagonist, I remember when you covered this initially and we were all still skeptical about how Arthur would be
amazing is a big word. it doesnt add up with rdr1, the epilogue is a fan service instead of what it was supposed to be, john left the gang and never looked back. so him returning to camp after the train robbery is non cannon, him doing the revenge thing is non canon, the epilogue is non canon. they had 8 years and couldnt even get this right, and you call this amazing bro? repetetive npc quests are amazing? really bro?
Today is my birthday, and this video has been the perfect present for me. Thank you. Over recent years, since 2016, I have watched you grow from Red Dead Uber fan, building up the anticipation for RDR2, to games journalist and insider voice; the honest broker, telling us all the unvarnished truth about the world of video gaming, the good the bad and the ugly, whilst being one of the most insightful, truthful voices out there. Now, you can add Games Historian and Curator of games heritage to your growing list of achievements. Thank you for your hard work, honesty, creativity and articulate commitment to the art form that is video gaming. And congratulations on your legacy. You really have built something quite wonderful from the ground up. It’s been my pleasure and privilege to watch that process.
To sum up my feelings over a 70 minute video without typing a college thesis: I think RDR2 has one of the best singleplayer campaigns in video game history I think it has *THE* best open-world map in video game history I don't like how, like true Rockstar fashion, they made people crunch under development I hate how they handled the launch of Red Dead Online and how they abandoned it so quickly Red Dead Online is the worst and blatantly the most boring multiplayer open-world experience I have ever played. I'd rather play The Division or Watch Dogs multiplayers than play Red Dead Online Rockstar is honestly a fantastic video game studio when they create singleplayer experiences, but they *always* flop hard when it comes to multiplayers
Yeah it makes no sense to me that they would invest half a billion dollars and almost a decade to make a game then just abandon it immediately. You'd think they would want to milk it for as much money as possible like they did with gta 5.
When I put my horse on auto-travel, it would routinely walk into the side of moving trains (getting flung like 20 feet neighing loudly and launching Arthur off its back) instead of stopping at the crossing and waiting for the train to pass. It was kind of hilarious, but also disappointing -- for a game which put so much emphasis on realism, it seems like they missed some pretty obvious flaws.
I’m on my second play through and it actually makes some sense to me why this happens. It’s annoying as hell but you’re really meant to explore the world and it doesn’t stop existing because you’re in cinematic. I’ve gotten attacked by wolves and ambushed by gangs while in cinematic. It’s not really meant to let you check out while traversing.
As someone who was in the midst of teenage angst when internet connected computers showed up at school, I love the chapter introductions with the pic and text on splash. Reminds me of old gaming mags from the early 90s
RDR2 for me too is a near masterpiece. Favourite game of all time, next to Witcher 3 and Metal Gear Solid 1 and 2. You summed up everything what makes it great and its flaws. Glad you didn't forget to talk about the immense effort that went into it by everyone involved, from the cast to the unnamed people that worked and are working at Rockstar. Fantastic video. Can't imagine the amount of work that must've gone into this. This could be an official documentary on Red Dead Redemption 2. Outstanding job👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Outlaws for life🤠🐴
Loved RDRevolver, RDR, and RDR2 but if R* made a game set in the same time or a bit earlier with a completely different set of characters I'd wanna play it. It doesn't have to be an extension of this story for me. Don't get me wrong I'd also play another RDR installment as well.
It’s not rdr2 that the people are against. It’s ROCKSTAR. And their neglect of this game. No story DLC, very little online support. That just dropped this game and forgot about it. It was only held up by the fact that the story and gameplay is one of the best of this decade.
I recently finished replaying RD2 and honestly, I think Arthur Morgan is the best written video game protagonist I've come across. Morally complex and you really see his evolution across the whole story. It's just incredible.
I love that in Rdr2 if you lack and go on your phone while traveling there is a high probability you’ll pay for it. You can get stopped by multiple gangs or by bounty hunters
Unpopular Opinion: I enjoyed my time with RDR1 more than with RDR2. First game felt like an actual open world game that welcomed player agency… the second game felt like more of an experience… the slowness, the micromanaging of cores, and focus on realism really snuffed the fun out of the game for me, not to mention the ever present bounty system preventing you from the typical open world chaos/mayhem that we’ve come to love and expect from Rockstar Games.
I 100%ed RDR1. And then I did it again. And then I kept playing for hours past that. But RDR2 just failed to hold my interest past one playthrough. I dunno, there just didn't feel like there was as much soul in it.
RDR1 was superior in a very important aspect: gameplay. It has a vastly better health system which allows you to actually die in combat if you're not careful. It has a more controllable and responsive aiming system and that's thanks to RDR2 introducing awful mechanics such as gun sway, reticle bloom and bullet sponge enemies. Lastly, RDR1's Ragdolls and more varied and dynamic. RDR2 forces the bodies to fall into limited, specific positions so Ragdolls get boring really quickly unless you're playing with ragdoll mods on P.C
@@Pedro_Le_Chef The open world is most important thing in an open world game RDR2 nails that. horse riding is far better in RDR2 as is hand to hand combat. Shoot from the hip is great in RDR2 and the movement of Arthur is allot better than RDR1 which is stiff. The Ragdolls in RDR1 are allot better Maxpayne 3 has the best Gunplay I have seen in a TPS game.
@@Pedro_Le_Chef I VASTLY prefer the gunplay and the general feeling of rdr1, shooting in rdr2 feels really boring and I don't know exactly why, it feels stiff and in plastic, I really did not enjoy it. The hunt game is too tedious since you need to find the 3 star pelts and always shoot perfectly in the head. Finding some perfect animals pelts was soo tedious that some times it took me hours to even find a 3 star animal. Doing the legendary saddlebag took me atleast 20 hours and it wasn't fun by any means, just stressful. The game really excels in other aspects tho, most importantly in the interactions you can have with npcs, an aspect than no other game or studio is even close achieve. This makes it feels soo alive and really a mile stone for video games. The gameplay was not that good tho so it is a pity, if it would have had a better gunplay it would have been surely in the top 5 games of all time
The online never bothered me, I just wish there was dlc, same for GTA 5, but unfortunately the GTA online was their cash cow and that's what they put their energy into.
i simply can't understand having so much love and dedication building this game up just to let it rot in the corner of a shelf. It's unbelievable what greed does out of a company. I was hoping for some single player DLC's, hoping they would remaster the first one and include in the world to have a seamless passage from one game to another. So much potential to still make so much money. Incredible.
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I never really cared for the online aspect of RDR2. I bought the game for the single player and I got the story of an outlaw cowboy that made me cry. Worth every penny.
Same. I’m not a multiplayer person. I’ve been enjoying the heck out out of the game.
Facts just got a copy after playing and losing my first.... On sale too... Bargain
Even at launch barely anyone was playing RDR2 online. It was sad.
Same as me my man. Never really got into online and also I never played RD1 so i didn't know what I was getting myself into. I changed the way I look at story telling in video games.
I'm still on my 1st playthrough of RDR2's story campaign. I'm sort of in this weird purgatory. I refuse to go see the guy that made Arthur sick. I've know about this games story mode for a long while. I watched lots of videos about the game since I couldn't afford it for the longest time. So, basically, I self spoiled. XD The Story campaign is an amazing ride. But I also enjoy the online mode as it means I can enjoy it with the company of some of my friends. I haven't had the game for very long, but for some people or a lot of people, online mode is where it's at for them after they've finished the story mode. And the longer standing veterans of the game are itching for some new content, like new DLC's that may open up Mexico or add some type of legit train heists, Native American DLC, opening up Guarma in its fullest, more horse coats, more horse breeds (there are a lot more American horses that they could possibly add), more guns, owning houses that you can customize that may replace that camp you hangout at. Some people think that the online mode should be free to get more people into it. And if more people get into it, that means more people will possibly buy more gold bars. And R* likes money. :3
The way Rockstar is mistreating and disrespecting RDR2 and RDO, I'm starting to think that we got the game thanks to Dan Houser and the veteran staff. Now that they have left, Rockstar is a shell of a company with poor management
The Rockstar of old is gone
Sadly I agree...
Their time has passed
pretty sure the makers of RDR2 are long gone
ohh jeez what a cliched dialogue... Cant wait for you guys to say the same about gta6
I really loved Red Dead Redemption 2 and while I’m not into multiplayer in general, it is actually a disgrace how badly Red Dead Online is being treated and how far down the hole of greed Rockstar has sunken to
also i don't agree to put trophy list along with multiplayer
made 100% on game but never get the platinum trophy
i think that is horrible, they lowkey made millions off the game and havent used a drop of it on rdr2 online
@Sehajmeet Sohal how did it not gain enough popularity, it sold 45million copies, i get what your saying that bit just not so true at all. It started dying down because of the lack of content from the game. Alot of games provide continuous updates even if the game stops making money or doesnt make money at all. It is yet again still just a business trying to make money and thats all it will ever be now. Games are no longer the niche it was before that only a sum of people enjoyed. And because of that this is the beast we fed and grew and now look at rockstar. Not updating a game that sold 45 million copies. just a joke fr .
@Sehajmeet Sohal I think thats because gta 5 has been on 3 generations of consoles and rdr2 has not been out as long. In the years to come it will also be the same for rdr2 i believe. I truly believe rdr2 was made for more and the only reason it didnt generate revenue is because of the way the game was treated. Which is rockstars fault. Undoubtedly. I just think saying it wasnt popular sounds weird to me considering the average number of buys normal games get.
@@ASSASSIN19923The first RDR was even more egregious. I think around 39 of the 95 achievements were multiplayer ones, many of whom ridiculously specific and/or luck based. Your only hope to get them all is boosting, especially at this point in the cycle of the game.
It really struck me just how detailed the game is when I’m riding my horse across a train track, and I noticed that the horseshoe coming into contact with the steel rail makes a completely separate noise as it hitting the wood around it, and it’s so precise too. It’s small stuff like that that smacks me in the face with just how much work was put in
That's what I loved about the first game too. Glad they built on that in the second game. You should play the first one if you haven't already.
Red dead 2 seriously had endless potential it's a shame it was never expanded beyond the main story
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Remember when they promised gta v singleplayer dlc as well? Lol
yes but it was a 70 hour story.
@@purefoldnz3070 I would have preferred more story content, to be honest it feels too short and I've replayed this game about or 8 times now
@@johnnyappleswope1821 the best part of Red Dead 2 is going out into the world and explore plus there's plenty do beside the main game like the challenges. The bandit challenges are so much fun.
Firstly, these “The People Versus” videos are incredible, great job man.
Secondly, some of that R* concept art is just unbelievable. And to see how they brought it to life in the game is sublime.
Such a shame RDR2 is essentially abandoned. I wish they’d just added more single player content like Mexico, with new stories, and added an Undead Nightmare expansion.
Undead Nightmare was great but with the ufos in rdr2 i really wanted a cowboys vs aliens type dlc
@@Quack_attack_
Yeah, definitely. Both would have been nice.
@@Quack_attack_ naw that's just cheesy as hell, if anything I would've loved an undead nightmare 2 but with vampires and werewolves 🤷🏽
@@AdamWest1290 yo that would be fire, vampires maybe more so just cos there is the one in saint denis, but i also agree with the original comment when he said "content like mexico" if that was in, it would be LIT
@@stanettiels7367 i think it could really have thrived with a whole background world of this type of thing. time traveler is in game, so is bigfoot, chupacabra, horses of the apocalypse, etc etc.. all of this expanded upon could give a breath of life to the game that it was missing. red dead always had mystical elements.
At the time RDR1 was current, I wrote a lot of the wiki for it. There were many others, obviously, but I contributed to some 15,000 pages being created or expanded. I even ran the place for awhile.
At any rate, often times when I see people use pictures of the characters, they're the ones I captured and added to the wiki, even after all these years.
How your comment doesn't have anymore recognition is beyond me. Thank you for all the work you've done.
@@Providence.. I appreciate the recognition. Thank you.
@@Providence.. I’d say it’s not because the community doesn’t appreciate what this guy does. It just is sort of a seemingly irrelevant place to talk about it. This is over an hour long video discussing the history, production, release, and reception of RDR2 and this guy’s comment is just talking about working on the previous game’s wiki.
Thanks for your service, pard'. I know I benefitted from it greatly when I was consuming everything about it in my first playthrough all those years ago.
@@lexinicole4317 I brought it up because he used my character screenshots. Explaining that I edited the wiki was merely for context.
Regardless of online, this game is an absolute masterpiece and a work of art on the same level as classic films.
I play RDR2 everyday
I don't even play GTA anymore
I'm not too into modern crime as much as I love westerns
I grew up on westerns
I love the weapons of this time era
I love the dark underbelly of this world
And most of all I just love getting lost in the world
Just taking out gang camps is fun
And when I beat it during the pandemic the storytelling is so awesome that at certain points I actually cried
You get invested in the people in your camp it's unbelievable
Yea rdr2 is a masterpiece. I cried too the first time I watched Arthur die. Never had a game hit me so emotionally. I felt so connected with him. One of my favorite games ever made. In fact, I think it’s time for a 3rd play through.
there's a whole swath of people who are in this same boat. we're here my friend.
@@drummeryan that last dying breath and he goes still before you see the dear/wolf.. that hit so hard.
Why you format this like its song lyrics lol
@@IliketheBears
I used to be a singer in a metal band
"I gave you all I had, Dutch". That line still gets me to this day. That and Arthur admitting to the nun that he was afraid are the most memorable. I recall early in the game telling myself that I will do 2 playthroughs. 1st as good guy. 2nd as a bad guy. Then afterwards, I came to the conclusion that the good guy route was absolutely perfect IMO, and choosing a bad karma playthru would just tarnish the good name of Arthur Morgan. It still amazes me how before RDR2, seemed like everyone (myself included) were up in arms about the story not being centered around John Marston, who, at the time, was one of the most beloved characters in gaming. All credit to Rockstar and Roger Clark that Arthur is now more loved than John.
I hate the conditions these developers had to go thru during production. However, I'm so happy that it wasn't in vain. This game is one of my favorites of all time.
"...but I tried... in the end... I did." Always gets me. Its at that point where you can see the redemption aspect of the overall narrative coming full circle and neatly closing everyting up in the franchise. Such a great scene and dialog, and such a great experince that not just supassed the first one in every way, but also elevated the first one to a new level. Players can experience RDR1 again with a fresh perspective and it makes it even more impactful.
As I get older and the changes, pressures and struggles of life kick in, the line 'You and me, we're more ghosts than people' really follows me. I think about that every day.
just go and greet folks bro, no room for redemption here.
Good point. Arthur like most of the crew were completely unnecessary. Should have been a bad ass story about most of the boys and have a few chicks in there like Sadie Adler. Arthur would have worked alot better as a side character npc gang member or second player to use in Co op multiplayer story mode. Now that would have been something new. way more powerful and makes NO sense for the character to jump from Arthur to John as they aren't even related lol.
@@lesliek6192 if john was the main character in rdr2 then the element of uncertaincy of the outcome of the player is gone, there is no hook and a 'what's next', we know John will survive until rdr1 but we did not know what Arthurs fate was. It is to get people hooked and actually interested in the storyline and the 'whats next' keeps the players coming back.
Sure RDR2 could have been John doing western stuff like robbing trains and whatnot but you gotta keep in mind rockstar has a whole game to create and keep it interesting and new and fresh, and not some remastered version of rdr1.
Rockstar really just abandoned one of their best selling games of all time and didn't even try post launch. I see so many gta fan boys say "well if you wanted to support the game more you should've bought more gold bars". Since when is it the job of the consumer to force the company to put out quality products? No-one bought gold bars because there was next to nothing to spend it on so why spend your hard earned money on in game currency when they don't even bother to give you an incentive to wanna spend money? Rockstar and take two just expected RDRO to automatically print money for them without putting in any real work and when it didn't they just decided oh it's a failure time to just say fuck It. I dont have much faith in this current Rockstar going forward
"Well if you wanted to support the game, you should've had your parents buy more gold bars" is what they really mean. These are GTA 5 fanboys after all
where is my VTOL horse
Dude you're 100% correct. Rockstar does NOT care about it's fans or communities. They do NOT treat their customers/fans with any sort of respect instead treating us like a wallet. When they want more money they release some extremely repetitive dlc to GTA then make every stupid expensive so new or people with not so much money on their character have to buy shark cards. They tried to do this to RDO but since there's not much to really buy in the game people ended up saving all of their money. So now pretty much the entire fan base has the equivalent of millions of dollars and Rockstar knows this. So what it looks like they are pretty much punishing the fan base because they're not going to make any money off of us, so they're not going to release any new content and just let the game die since they can't immediately pay wall people and force them to buy gold bars.
You can't listen to people like that. They are the reason the gaming industry has gone down hill. They constantly reward these companies for sub par games, so nothing will change. I do not blame these companies, i blame those who support them. These problems would be fixed almost over night if people would stop giving them money.
I hate it when the gta fanboys say that rockstar abandoning rdr for gta is a business strategy then whine to rockstar about gta plus even though their game is still alive for 9 years, and they love to say that rockstar is neglecting red dead for good but they don't understand that rockstar don't have the guts to tell its community they won't be supporting red dead anymore because they know they still have loyal fans that still play the game and some even buy gold bars.
Dude im so pissed with Rockstar, the online could have been just as great as GTA online. But greed runs these companies nowadays.
RS spent 540 million on innovative resources to give us a milestone in single player gaming. That is rare nowadays.
RDR online is to create funds. And they lack the interest in pouring money into something they don't care about. They have created all the assets and market them again.
If it's that what it takes to create even more income to make the next milestone I'm OK with that.
at least single player has not disappointed. They always deliver.
The implication that GTA online is great and not just a store that sells silly sci fi toys to feed the greed now?
RDR 3 online hopefully will get better treatment from rockstar. Considering that game will likely take place at the vary tail end of the wild west era 1914-1919 with Jack. Planes, cars, more semi auto and automatic weapons all exist at this point in time and are common enough in society (at least in cities).
Hopefully that will be a separate mode though. So that way people who want a GTA online experience in western rural America can have that with planes and cars basically (Battlefield 1 tech as dlc) but you still have the traditional western aspects and normal stereotypical western DLC. Just with ww1 era technology in the mix.
While more traditional western lovers will have a different online mode option that is still based on the western/frontier experience minus most of the planes and cars and ww1 era guns. I guess a more realistic take to the tail end of 1910’s wild West era lifestyle considering rural, remote areas usually are the slowest to want to advanced technology and modernize lifestyle.
@@schpeidermann I'm about 25% of the way through my first run at RDR2. This game is magnificent. I have no problem with rockstar letting this one stand as one of the greatest single player games ever made. I cant believe I waited this long to play it and my jaw keeps dropping at the level of detail.
I agree...rockstar's resources are best spent on their next project.
Damn the amount of time and editing that had to go into this... Great video.
I love watching my favorite TH-camrs comment on each other’s videos
This is one of the greatest games I have played. Currently replaying it again, but on my PC. I'm still blown away.
I'm planning on replaying it again too, though I left online a good while ago now. It's in story mode where the gold is.
pc port sucks. a thousand hours i've given it and i promise it's so terribly unoptimized for pc.
@@Astares9your pc is garbage maybe? It has 95 percent positive on steam so it's fine for most lol
I remember I subbed to this channel like 5 years ago cuz of RDR2 content. Boy oh boy how Rockstar Games have fallen from grace
Yea has any other game been so successful and received 0 dlc
Same here the only reason I'm even here was because of the RDR news. Then CYBERPUNK keeped my hopes up, but we all know how that went.
RDR 3 online hopefully will get better treatment from rockstar. Considering that game will likely take place at the vary tail end of the wild west era 1914-1919 with Jack. Planes, cars, more semi auto and automatic weapons all exist at this point in time and are common enough in society (at least in cities).
Hopefully that will be a separate mode though. So that way people who want a GTA online experience in rural America can have that with planes and cars. While more strict western lovers will have a online mode that is still based on the western/frontier experience but minus the planes and cars and handheld machine guns.
Sadly such is the case with many current day games companies :(
@@spacecat77 would be nice if they could do both and support them equally but odds are they most likely wouldn’t 😕.
I always thought a cowboys vs aliens dlc would’ve been phenomenal. I thought it would’ve been perfect given all the alien Easter eggs throughout the game.
I thought the same thing. They gave Marston Zombies in undead nightmare. So why cant Morgan get an Alien invasion in Red dead space Cowboy
@@k7j007 I was thinking either that or a vampire dlc would've been sweet too.
your the reason it's dead
@@RobG93G could be a Halloween seasonal event at night in the online called hauntings with different event with superstitious creatures from the late 19th century in creepier parts of the map,
Ghost trains
Undead rising from graveyards
Night folk or voddoo zombies
Sasquatch
Nosferatus
An Ickabad crane bounty with a headless pumpkin dude
Witch covens
Seasonal event like snow during holidays.
@@RobG93G it should all be in there and expanded upon. cryptids, monsters, aliens, fantasy stuff in general.. like RDR1 had
RD Online had so much potential. It’s a shame that Rockstar gave up on it so easily all because it wasn’t as popular as GTA Online.
What's tragic is that it was popular. It's just that the fans are mostly older and more responsible with their money, so we weren't gonna be spending on microtransactions especially on a game that rockstar promised would be more single player friendly
@@METALLICAAVENGED A large factor was also that even if people DID want to spend irl money on RD online, there was virtually fuck all to actually buy beside cosmetics
RDR2 is my favorite game of all time I'm so genuinely grateful for everyone who contributed to creating this experience. It really does feel like a real world and I honestly can't get enough of living life as Arthur Morgan
4 years later and I've played through the story 4 times and Online about 4 hours total. One of my favorite games of all time. What the hell happened to you, Rockstar?
"cultural shifts"......that can be a good or bad thing if not balanced
They decided they wanted to paid FIRST , then make another great game … and their idea of getting paid was to have make online gold you could buy as a gamer and then do nothing with as they didn’t bother to upgrade the online version
I can’t believe it came out 4 years ago, time is flying man
@@craigdurso3005 then ban people with hundreds of hours of real progress just because they picked up a few gold bars on the ground that a hacker left. and then the hacker doesn't get banned. that's why i refuse to play that online shitshow.
It is qctuqlly because of my time with RDR 2 that I decided to become a gunsmith and am currently in school for it. The firearms in this game and the way they work plus the history really got me intrigued to do it.
Red Dead Redemption 2 is honestly one of the greatest games I’ve ever played
#1 for me. Not even close
Same
@@FuckFascistTH-cam same, even if there's a bunch of shit that makes me mad. weapons auto equipping, no ability to remove offhand holster, weird niche bugs that are ignored...
MGS Phantom Pain is a solid #2 for me.
The final act before the epilogue definitely had me in tears many times. The long ride back with the sound track playing after finding out the truth about Micah for example. I completely agree that Arthur becoming a better person towards the end is the best or my head cannon at least. I told myself I’d have an evil play through but after multiple replays I could never bring myself to do it.
It’s awful the crunch Rockstar put its devs through to create this masterpiece… but it definitely showed in the end. I can’t think of anything that would have improved the game.
I've been doing a bad playthrough and it's breakin' my heart.
This video is inspiring me to play the story for the 4th time, but as a low honor player, just to experience another side of this insanely amazing game!
Definitely worth it they put a lot of work into evil Arthur
@@vicecityrocks1 for sure!
I tried it but gave up pretty quickly as i felt so guilty about dishonouring Arthur's legacy so much, every kill was hurting more and more, but I will try again.
The ending of low honor arthur left a bad taste in my mouth
I started getting all choked up around 45min as you were going through the characters and their arcs. Then you got to Arthur and played the clip of him saying goodbye to Abigail & Sadie, "You're good women…" - I just started crying.
Such a powerful story. I'll never forget it.
It sure has been a hell of a ride since the first announcements, the first videos I watched from your channnel back in 2017 when I barely spoke english to 5 years later, a masterpiece launched and is now an abandoned game.
This was a great video, Michael. Thanks for putting such effort in the making of them.
Was wondering what happened. Turns out you was cooking heat
The greatest game ever made. Rockstar don’t deserve their own masterpiece.
What a a perfect way to phrase things.
What are you talking about weirdo if it wasn’t for them it wouldn’t exist nor the rest of the best games ever created
@@dxzzad6265 you’re the weirdo. Rockstar sucks now
@@dxzzad6265 the Rockstar we knew is gone, the Rockstar we know have the IPs, and those people don't deserve the game.
@@awesomezombi1026 Man just stfu with this cliche " rOcKsTaR NoNe dUn HoUsIr gOnE" .People really belive that the work of 1000+ developers is made by one individual
The same people who thought that RDR2 will be shit because Lezlie left the company,the same people who thought that Cyberpunk will be game of the decade because CDPR doesn't have microtransaction lol
Every game made by Rockstar that I bought (using my brain of course) was solid and I expect the same about the next installment without blindlesly making a purchase without documenting myself about it
Mass Effect (trilogy) and Red Dead Redemption 2 have been the greatest games I have ever played, and have absolutely cried during my first play through. The story line felt so real and felt so raw in both aspects. RDR2 makes me wish to visit the Wild West, and Mass Effect makes me wish to visit outer space as a Space Marine.
I know some people will say Skyrim will do that for them, which I won’t argue; for me though, my god, RDR2 just invokes something in me so primal. I love it. ❤
RDR 2 is incredible. I just wish R* would actually support it with story expansions....not the online crap...or at least online should be a secondary focus.
A small DLC for the epilogue would've been nice. Once I reached that point the game kinda grinded to a crawl.
@@terrylandess6072the epilogue is a fucking chore to play, literally.
The epilogue is supposed to be "boring", because that it was John feels: He is bored with this "Farmer-Lifestyle". It's a risk, making something boring on purpose, because most will not get it. I didn't get it at first as well, but that was because I enjoyed the epilogue.
I saved all the side missions for John and also the bounty Hunter missions.
@LegacyKillaHD Michael, this is one of your best videos yet. Great script, perfect editing, crisp & clear clips, solid primary sources, and excellent narration. Good job, bud.
My favourite game of all time. A masterpiece.
I wonder if we'll ever get a conclusion to Charles and Sadie's stories after never getting the DLCs for them that the ending clearly implied...
Still, great video man. Love to see these kinds of mini-documentaries and the overviews/constructive criticism you give in them
Great video, Michael! Can tell you put a lot of time into this.
More like people vs RDO... Single player was an awesome cowboy sim WITH a great story to boot. Don't get that twisted because the online sucked. All online sucks, but RDR2 story mode is legendary and still blows every other game outta the water by a country mile.
@Occifer FigPucker your damn right about that
This is my favorite game of all time
Funny enough I got this game on my birthday and when it caked out on October 26 2018 I almost had a heart attack for the amount of excitement I had for this game
I recently played red dead redemption and read the redemption under nightmare which are both great experiences
RDR 3 online hopefully will get better treatment from rockstar. Considering that game will likely take place at the vary tail end of the wild west era 1914-1919 with Jack. Planes, cars, more semi auto and automatic weapons all exist at this point in time and are common enough in society (at least in cities).
Hopefully that will be a separate mode though. So that way people who want a GTA online experience in western rural America can have that with planes and cars basically (Battlefield 1 tech as dlc) but you still have the traditional western aspects and normal stereotypical western DLC. Just with ww1 era technology in the mix.
While more traditional western lovers will have a different online mode option that is still based on the western/frontier experience minus most of the planes and cars and ww1 era guns. I guess a more realistic take to the tail end of 1910’s wild West era lifestyle considering rural, remote areas usually are the slowest to want to advanced technology and modernize lifestyle.
It blows every other game out of the water?
With what?
Because it certainly doesn't do that with its clunky gameplay and baby easy auto aim combat.
Even older rockstar games surpass Rdr2 in gameplay, which is the most important aspect for video games.
Most third person shooters blow Rdr2 completely out of the water when it comes to factors such as gunplay and difficulty.
@@Pedro_Le_Chef lol u high? No other game comes close to rdr2 gameplay, story ,lore and graphics this is literally a masterpiece.
@@redt8311 Worst. Idea. Ever.
I'll always love R* for creating this masterpiece and I'll always hate them for abandoning it.
If the modding community and the publishers could work together, we'd get the games we want.
That's not it we just need publishers and higher ups to alow the devs to be creative
@@crossdaboss8914 Yea, most problems seem to steam from the big guy/s with the pocket books. "We want this! " Says the guy with no experience or care for said media- only the bottom line. Absolute crime how poorly everything is handled.
The complete lack of single player expansions/DLC has to be one of the largest and MOST OBVIOUS missed opportunities in modern gaming. Rockstar treated RDR2 like it was going to be the next GTA5 Online and it didn't work because it's a completely different game. There was a sense of community built up around GTA 5 mixed with the style/setting of the game that made it the perfect candidate for an online experience. On the other hand, RDR2 was 100% built around enhancing the single player experience. Even with how the epilogue plays out it seems like at some point there was meant to be more. Charles and Sadie both have so much potential for expanded stories, letting us play as John Marston again, literally HALF THE MAP not being playable until the end of the main game and once you got there it had almost nothing for the player to do. I don't see how Rockstar could have put that amount of time and resources into this world without planning to use it. Undead Nightmare 2 would have been an automatic win, or imagine a remake of the first Red Dead Redemption built into this game. Honestly, with how much this game has dropped off the radar since release, unless Rockstar chooses the use and build off of what's already there, it's not likely we'll see another Red Dead game like this. Another 8 years and $540 million after all this wasted potential would be an insanely risky gamble at that point. Please let this prediction be wrong.
Dude, I’ve been following you since 2017, you were totally my dude concerning anything red dead, I actually remember kinda missing your updates after the release. This feels like a great book end to that journey. Here’s hoping I get to come back for Red dead 3
I've recently decided to finally go for the platinum on RDR2 (and then possibly GTA 5) as a tribute/sendoff for Rockstar Games. RDR2 was their swan song game and the last good thing they will ever produce. They are officially dead to me
Until they drop gta6 lmao then you’ll be right back on they tip
@@PainxSorrow That's definitely possible, but very unlikely. I'm pretty confident that whatever trailer they finally decide to put out will not impress me much. RDR2 is the bar, and I guarantee GTA 6 will not come close to it, and it certainly won't pass it. But on the off chance it does, and I'm completely wrong, then I'll act accordingly (by which I mean I'll be sure to pick up a used copy for half price to ensure Rockstar doesn't get a dime from me). But I'll cross that bridge when I get to it. Until then, I will remain justifiably skeptical
@@FuckFascistTH-cam bro they barely care about rdr2 if you think with the advances is tech and the love for the gta series in general that they aren’t going to put their all into gta6 then you sleep bruh it might not impress you but gta6 will literally be a world event
@@PainxSorrow Have you been paying attention? Like at all? Do you have any idea what Rockstar has been going through the last few years? Every single person that made Rockstar what it was is gone. The people who ensured quality, passion, and care are gone. Rockstar is now a shell of the company it was years ago. The new CEO is some ex casino owner who is very open about wanting to focus on microtransactions. There was an interview a couple years ago when they admitted GTA 6 will be more online focused than single player. The fact that you either don't know this (or do, and just choose to ignore it), and say that I'm the one sleeping is hilarious 😂
Good luck with the gambler challenges and getting 70 gold missions for the gold rush trophy. Those trophies aren’t fun
This is moreso "The People VS Red Dead Online / Rockstar" to be honest. Most people agree that Red Dead Redemption 2 is one of the best games of the generation, if not of all time.
Yeah it is not like the actual game itself is a complete dumpster fire, just the online part is being poorly treated
I only recently got a ps4 after years of not having a console. RDR was one of my favorite games I ever played, so I finally bought RDR2 a few weeks ago and I'm playing the story for the first time. The game is simply mind blowing. I don't plan on playing online though. The microtransactions turn me off.
If you play it in first person, the immersion is just perfect👌🏼
I would LOVE to get to experience RDR2 for the 1st time again! Take your time with it, rushing through it will just take away from all the amazing things that can be explored. Good luck and have a blast
I envy you. I loved every minute of it, but it's definitely catered to a certain kind of gamer. I love to walk (not run) in games to soak in as much atmosphere as possible and take it all in. If you like that type you'll have a blast. Stop what you think you're supposed to do every now and then and just take it in.
@@joebrown6778 I constantly get sidetracked and explore everywhere. The game is too beautiful to rush through
If the micro transactions are your hang up for online, you may be releaved to know (the main reason they abandoned it) THERE IS NOTHING TO BUY. I played the online off and on for years, and never once found myself in a situation where I needed gold for something (basically like 1 good horse, some cosmetics, and unlocking roles) and didn't already have enough of it from just doing missions. It's depressing that they added just enough micro transactions to turn people away, but not enough to make any difference in the game, and couldn't make money because people won't pay much for something that does nothing. Most of the fun online was just riding around with your gang, going fishing, hunting, wrecking cops in st. Denis, and Rockstar couldn't figure out how to monetize that. Most of the aimless wandering I would do in single player was just as fun online. I'd recommend giving it a shot. You progress pretty quickly for a while, and you won't run out of new content for a long time, but the best content is the friends you make along the way
This video was trip down memory lane, I remember watching all your videos all the way up to the release of the game and the all the hype behind it was truly magical
I didn't notice how long this video was, and just wow.. it did NOT feel like a full hour!
Amazing video, you had me interested in every single minute of this video. Great job!!
What a fantastic vid, exactly what I was looking for. I just finished Rdr2 for the 1st time.... And now I'm obsessed.
This video gave me the perfect history lesson. Thanks man!
The one of the saddest things that had happened to RDR2 was no SPDLC and RDO being finished after three years and a nine year old game still getting big updates
RDO is in a sad state for one you can’t rob anything
Two everything is so damn expensive like the $1000 Pistol before it was cut to 40% permanently after price backlash
Three the online story isn’t even finished
Four only for players who have played the game for quite a while, There’s nothing to buy
Last thing is game in some aspects is better than GTAO
What big updates is gta getting bro
It’s the criminal enterprise coming in July 26
it's still not finished. there are visual bugs that remain to this day from near launch. the absolute _worst_ kind of glitch is something that screws up a piece of clothing or gun on your character. that's what you see on screen 100% of the time unless you play first person, which.. isn't as popular as some might have you believe.
My biggest issue with RDR 2 was how thin the endgame was. It's like Rockstar was saying "Hey, did you finish the campaign? Now let's get you to online". When you're done with the story, there's absolutely nothing to do other than riding around. Money doesn't matter anymore either since you've got pretty much nothing to spend it on after a point.
The care you put into RDR2 videos rivals the care the developers put into the game itself. This was amazing. Thank you
It's amazing how a video game can be so emotional and moving. People will scoff unless they actually play it. Well done folks, very well done!
People to this day still complaining about “realism in games” really don’t get it. This is a one-in-a-life-time experience because of its realism. Just because it is not for them doesn’t mean this approach should not exists. I really love this game’s realism and the overall experience. Everything you do holds weight and the open world is alive and without realism this could not have been achieved to this level of masterclass. 4 years after and it is still a masterpiece
Damn! This video actually made me replay it again. I have it on PC but did not finish it. Excited to get home from work and start over…
thanks LegacyKilla. Awesome video
My biggest problem with the game is the inconsistencent realism/realism in what I belive to be misplaced areas.
Imagine a game where all the resources spent on shrinking horseballs, jacket mud animation etc went into having a truly innovative law enforcement system.
No more teleporting psychic cops like in any other rockstar game, but a system of lawmen patrolling the map, ala nemesis system from the mordor games.
Don't get me wrong here, I love these graphic details, they all add up to a mind blowing visual simulation.
My point is that I wish more of the effort went into furthering game mechanical realism, like a patrol based law system.
When I get hunted down by teleporting lawmen, it kind of breaks the illusion that the visuals are working so hard to maintain.
This was an amazing analysis/review/exposition/commentary. I didn’t expect to watch the entire thing in one sitting but it’s just so well put together and fascinating. Bravo and cheers to this legendary story.
RIP this franchise... An absolute masterwork.
An epic documentary! Even thought I already knew most of what you showed here I enjoyed every minute of this! Can't wait to see what you make next!
Completed my first play through with a 97% completion, the game is truly a masterpiece.
The best long-form gaming channel on TH-cam. I love this stuff!
I remember watching your videos in 2017 and 2018, talking about RDR2 theories. I can’t believe how fast the past 4 years has gone by :O)
The story is master class. But online.. well, y'all know how that's goin.
The time and effort you put into this is commendable
John's and Arthur's deaths made me cry.. But that "thank you" whispered to the horse's ear.. Man.. That broke something in me
So true
Watched this all the way to the end. Insane work man! Bravo!
I will never forget when this game was released. There's no better game than this for me. 100/10 masterpiece that deserves so much more
46:25 I always wondered why Dutch got so crazy even with Arthur and John around, but looking back, all of Dutch's missions were so much fun! Why go to Tahiti and farm mangos when we can fight the federal government in ever increasingly insane plots and schemes!
4 years after I play that game somehow still gives me chills everything related to that game and to Arthur Morgan.
I wish I can replay my 1st playthrough over and over again what a masterpiece
GryOnline's comment about RDR2 being the best open world and not being able to wipe memory of this game just to play it fresh all over again is correct.
Wow - that was great. RDR2's single player was such a great experience. I had missed the RD games that came before it. It was interesting to learn about them.
One super minor thing. @42:49 that looks like a wolf. Not a coyote. I only know, because our neighborhood has had an influx of coyotes coming through. They are a problem for people with outdoor pets.
It's a wolf call you hear in the background when you choose bad deeds as well, not a coyote yip/cry.
Well.... Time to go back and play through once again lol. I love this game and how you said no one would have thought that we could care more about Arthur than John from the original is spot on because i never would have thought i could be more invested with any other character because in RDR1 John was such a great character and the way he went out was truly sad so when i played RDR2 for the first time i started to become more invested in to Arthur's story and by the end blown away. What a great game
AHHHH yeah hour long video! Don't take this the wrong way legacykilla but I like listening to you to fall asleep. You're not boring, your voice just makes me comfortable enough to sleep.
RDR2 is a masterpiece. It has a plot comparable to Leone's and Tarantino's movies, original and amazing soundtrack, amazing graphic, physics and AI. This is not only a game, it is an art experience that can be loved also from people who hate video games. I wonder when we will be able to achieve this quality again.
I'm not sure anyone ever will . The Last of Us is the only thing that got anywhere close ( and that was still a long way away )
love the work you put into research, especially in relation to the history of the franchise, keep it up!
I’m so glad I was alive for this game’s announcement, hype cycle, and release. It was such an exciting time. I’ll never forget it.
Awesome and thorough love letter to an extraordinary masterpiece. I have never experienced such a living world, and I look forward to go back soon again.
I love all your materials. Thank you for what you are doing!
Problem with Red Dead and 2 is that there is basically zero replayability. As in when you've completed the game there is basically nothing to do
Unlike RDR1 which had unlimited bounty hunting, duels and random events.
I have done mutiple playthroughs and still found New things. Side quests Ramdom ecounters I have not seen Before Mystries i the world. Playing low honour gave me different expirence with how arthur is allot more bitter and selfish. The way he reacts to seans death with low honour and his low honour interaction in chapter 6 were greatm
"Something meaningful" 22:03 😂
35:50 hells yes, Legacy getting recognized by our favorite protagonist, I remember when you covered this initially and we were all still skeptical about how Arthur would be
Story mode is still amazing and I appreciate that, this game feels like it came out today
amazing is a big word. it doesnt add up with rdr1, the epilogue is a fan service instead of what it was supposed to be, john left the gang and never looked back. so him returning to camp after the train robbery is non cannon, him doing the revenge thing is non canon, the epilogue is non canon. they had 8 years and couldnt even get this right, and you call this amazing bro? repetetive npc quests are amazing? really bro?
I wish they would add radiant quests into rdr 2 story mode
Oh man, this work is so good, LOVE your channel.
Today is my birthday, and this video has been the perfect present for me. Thank you. Over recent years, since 2016, I have watched you grow from Red Dead Uber fan, building up the anticipation for RDR2, to games journalist and insider voice; the honest broker, telling us all the unvarnished truth about the world of video gaming, the good the bad and the ugly, whilst being one of the most insightful, truthful voices out there. Now, you can add Games Historian and Curator of games heritage to your growing list of achievements. Thank you for your hard work, honesty, creativity and articulate commitment to the art form that is video gaming. And congratulations on your legacy. You really have built something quite wonderful from the ground up. It’s been my pleasure and privilege to watch that process.
To sum up my feelings over a 70 minute video without typing a college thesis:
I think RDR2 has one of the best singleplayer campaigns in video game history
I think it has *THE* best open-world map in video game history
I don't like how, like true Rockstar fashion, they made people crunch under development
I hate how they handled the launch of Red Dead Online and how they abandoned it so quickly
Red Dead Online is the worst and blatantly the most boring multiplayer open-world experience I have ever played. I'd rather play The Division or Watch Dogs multiplayers than play Red Dead Online
Rockstar is honestly a fantastic video game studio when they create singleplayer experiences, but they *always* flop hard when it comes to multiplayers
Yeah it makes no sense to me that they would invest half a billion dollars and almost a decade to make a game then just abandon it immediately. You'd think they would want to milk it for as much money as possible like they did with gta 5.
Online is pretty fun. Ive met so many friends from it and have now put in more hours into online than i had in the story game
When I put my horse on auto-travel, it would routinely walk into the side of moving trains (getting flung like 20 feet neighing loudly and launching Arthur off its back) instead of stopping at the crossing and waiting for the train to pass. It was kind of hilarious, but also disappointing -- for a game which put so much emphasis on realism, it seems like they missed some pretty obvious flaws.
I’m on my second play through and it actually makes some sense to me why this happens. It’s annoying as hell but you’re really meant to explore the world and it doesn’t stop existing because you’re in cinematic. I’ve gotten attacked by wolves and ambushed by gangs while in cinematic. It’s not really meant to let you check out while traversing.
Right but in real life a horse wouldn't walk into the side of a moving train...
As someone who was in the midst of teenage angst when internet connected computers showed up at school, I love the chapter introductions with the pic and text on splash. Reminds me of old gaming mags from the early 90s
RDR2 for me too is a near masterpiece. Favourite game of all time, next to Witcher 3 and Metal Gear Solid 1 and 2.
You summed up everything what makes it great and its flaws. Glad you didn't forget to talk about the immense effort that went into it by everyone involved, from the cast to the unnamed people that worked and are working at Rockstar.
Fantastic video. Can't imagine the amount of work that must've gone into this. This could be an official documentary on Red Dead Redemption 2. Outstanding job👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Outlaws for life🤠🐴
Loved RDRevolver, RDR, and RDR2 but if R* made a game set in the same time or a bit earlier with a completely different set of characters I'd wanna play it. It doesn't have to be an extension of this story for me. Don't get me wrong I'd also play another RDR installment as well.
It’s not rdr2 that the people are against. It’s ROCKSTAR. And their neglect of this game. No story DLC, very little online support. That just dropped this game and forgot about it. It was only held up by the fact that the story and gameplay is one of the best of this decade.
I recently finished replaying RD2 and honestly, I think Arthur Morgan is the best written video game protagonist I've come across. Morally complex and you really see his evolution across the whole story. It's just incredible.
I love that in Rdr2 if you lack and go on your phone while traveling there is a high probability you’ll pay for it. You can get stopped by multiple gangs or by bounty hunters
By not adding single player DLC was a grave mistake.
Unpopular Opinion: I enjoyed my time with RDR1 more than with RDR2. First game felt like an actual open world game that welcomed player agency… the second game felt like more of an experience… the slowness, the micromanaging of cores, and focus on realism really snuffed the fun out of the game for me, not to mention the ever present bounty system preventing you from the typical open world chaos/mayhem that we’ve come to love and expect from Rockstar Games.
Yes, that is quite unpopular lol
@@FuckFascistTH-cam It's unpopular but true.
@@Pedro_Le_Chef It's an opinion lol. It can't be true or untrue
Thats what I love about RDR2 really surpasses RDR1 as an open world game.
Really awesome video!! RDR2 is my favorite game of all time so it was great to watch this deep dive about the red dead history 👍🏻👍🏻
I've watched a ton of videos on the RDR franchise. This is by far the best video/documentary I've ever seen. Just what I needed.
I 100%ed RDR1. And then I did it again. And then I kept playing for hours past that. But RDR2 just failed to hold my interest past one playthrough. I dunno, there just didn't feel like there was as much soul in it.
Compress RDR2 to RDR1 length. RDR2 had/gave most of "kept playing for hours past that" before you finished game (first playthrough).
RDR1 was superior in a very important aspect: gameplay.
It has a vastly better health system which allows you to actually die in combat if you're not careful.
It has a more controllable and responsive aiming system and that's thanks to RDR2 introducing awful mechanics such as gun sway, reticle bloom and bullet sponge enemies.
Lastly, RDR1's Ragdolls and more varied and dynamic. RDR2 forces the bodies to fall into limited, specific positions so Ragdolls get boring really quickly unless you're playing with ragdoll mods on P.C
@@Pedro_Le_Chef The open world is most important thing in an open world game RDR2 nails that. horse riding is far better in RDR2 as is hand to hand combat. Shoot from the hip is great in RDR2 and the movement of Arthur is allot better than RDR1 which is stiff. The Ragdolls in RDR1 are allot better Maxpayne 3 has the best Gunplay I have seen in a TPS game.
@@Pedro_Le_Chef I VASTLY prefer the gunplay and the general feeling of rdr1, shooting in rdr2 feels really boring and I don't know exactly why, it feels stiff and in plastic, I really did not enjoy it. The hunt game is too tedious since you need to find the 3 star pelts and always shoot perfectly in the head. Finding some perfect animals pelts was soo tedious that some times it took me hours to even find a 3 star animal. Doing the legendary saddlebag took me atleast 20 hours and it wasn't fun by any means, just stressful. The game really excels in other aspects tho, most importantly in the interactions you can have with npcs, an aspect than no other game or studio is even close achieve. This makes it feels soo alive and really a mile stone for video games. The gameplay was not that good tho so it is a pity, if it would have had a better gunplay it would have been surely in the top 5 games of all time
Rest in Pieces, Rockstar...
Dude, well done. A lot of quality work put into this vid.
I have been WAITING for LKHD to make a RDR2 follow up!
They should’ve focused on single player DLC
The online never bothered me, I just wish there was dlc, same for GTA 5, but unfortunately the GTA online was their cash cow and that's what they put their energy into.
i simply can't understand having so much love and dedication building this game up just to let it rot in the corner of a shelf. It's unbelievable what greed does out of a company. I was hoping for some single player DLC's, hoping they would remaster the first one and include in the world to have a seamless passage from one game to another. So much potential to still make so much money. Incredible.
Phenomenal breakdown. Commenting for the algorithm
Red Dead over Grand Theft Auto anyday