These Cows Went On Holiday!

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  • @beverleyhoward4989
    @beverleyhoward4989 ปีที่แล้ว

    From Toronto, Canada: There seem to be a lot of time consuming tasks to do on the farm. You are a very considerate and compassionate animal owner.

  • @michael7423
    @michael7423 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    i love the way you give the cows a vacation and the way you take such good care of the ladies!

    • @saskdutchkid
      @saskdutchkid  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks!

    • @virginiamoss7045
      @virginiamoss7045 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@saskdutchkid - Why do you shut them down for two months?

    • @nicholasdowns3502
      @nicholasdowns3502 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Virginia Moss, this is to allow the cows to be less stressed for the two months before they have their calves. A lot of stress on a cow that close to having her calf can sometimes cause the cow to lose the calf also (which is a very sad day if it happens).

    • @virginiamoss7045
      @virginiamoss7045 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nicholasdowns3502 - Since he said they were "drying off" the cow, I assumed she was lactating, being milked. How can she be pregnant and be lactating at the same time? What is the "vacation" a break from?

    • @aadi2456
      @aadi2456 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What a life-- no grass to walk on or graze, no hours of soaking in the sunshine, no just wandering arnd. Day on day end serve human needs & be moved around in closed barns on concrete floors. What these cows need & what they will get is totally human dependent

  • @TNTAcres2019
    @TNTAcres2019 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Little tip for ya. When starting big Trucks, push the clutch it saves a ton of wear on the starter.

  • @cowboyupnow63
    @cowboyupnow63 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Gosh your cows are so gentle in milking parlor they didn’t flinch when treating them for dry cow time.. job well done.

  • @sierraedmonds2950
    @sierraedmonds2950 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I work on a dairy farm in New Brunswick and Its super cool to see the different routines, equipment on other dairy farms!! I love watching videos of other farms and seeing the difference between other farms! Dairy farming was my first job and I've been doing it for almost 3 years and absolutely love it! At the farm I work on we have a 32 stall rotary parlor and milk about 450 cows 3 times a day! Seeing your milking parlor and routine is awesome seeing the different equipment is amazing to watch. It's cool seeing how all dairy farms operate differently!🙂

  • @nancyegelton1593
    @nancyegelton1593 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I really like the way you think about the little things such as where a neck rail is placed. the "girls" comfort is a priority !It shows in how good your herd looks.

  • @dougdiplacido2406
    @dougdiplacido2406 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It is amazing how cooperative the ladies are. You sure take great care of them. Thanks for the video. Jan The Man.

  • @Yet1moreUtuber
    @Yet1moreUtuber 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Always amazed at how far away those drones can fly, and their camera quality

  • @lauracoleman8114
    @lauracoleman8114 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos. Thanks for supporting Ford. My family has been building Fords for 3 generations now.

  • @acmonin1365
    @acmonin1365 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been watching you on my TV instead of my desktop and I can't comment or "like" your videos but rest assured I am keeping up with you and your experiences on the farm. Keep up the good work and great videos.

  • @kamurray67
    @kamurray67 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    “Dry them off”. You must have some very large towels!

    • @saskdutchkid
      @saskdutchkid  4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Hehe

    • @desross2002
      @desross2002 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nice one hahahahahaha

    • @Colevdbrink724
      @Colevdbrink724 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      good one

    • @rickduquette3399
      @rickduquette3399 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      is that DRY HUMOUR??

    • @jenniferwhite6089
      @jenniferwhite6089 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      all way find a joker in the crowd think they are a clown lol
      still are floor milking there too we are here to one of the barns we had to put a fence up to keep people away from barns we have sign's up all the fence say sorry health reason's we can not sell the raw milk to the public but they still try to we did have the dairy board came out here for a couple days and given a warning ticket to the people and 30 have been charged with coming to other dairies
      live to close to a city and a town you get this

  • @patricksmith3135
    @patricksmith3135 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You have done it agaiin! Another hit show. I have a white vehicle and the powerwasher is great for cleanup and I don't have as much mud here. Thanks and be safe. Regards to your family.

  • @merlewarnsholz2094
    @merlewarnsholz2094 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great video. THanks for sharing. From the retired Pastor in Davenport, Iowa.

  • @elitebowman5386
    @elitebowman5386 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bet your parents are very proud of you and your sister. You are very hard working kids. Very impressed with your work ethic and knowledge of your farm.

    • @saskdutchkid
      @saskdutchkid  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha maybe! What else are you gonna do with your time! May as well work!

  • @1911erwin
    @1911erwin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    I like the way you refer to the currently milking cows as “ladies” and the heifers as “girls”. It shows respect for the product they are providing.

    • @billybishop8635
      @billybishop8635 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Spjkbz D S2 you're right! There is no point in showing these intelligent animals kindness and respect during their years of service prior to becoming a further part of the circle of life. I mean these cows should be penned up like chickens, he should beat them when they don't move and ensure they experience no quality of life at all. After all they're gonna end up being slaughtered anyways.
      Since your going to die eventually too, why don't you just live your life as drug riddled transient and make sure you don't enjoy any aspect of your life, including the internet. No point in showing you respect since your going to be dead within 100 years, so feck off you idealist vegetarian

    • @Emg2463
      @Emg2463 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Spjkbz nobody said anything about "idealizing" the cows. Showing a little kindness and consideration for another living thing, even if it is just a "cow"....never hurts and frankly, it's a credit to the kid...and his dad who raise him and taught him......that he does. Nice work SDK

    • @gilesdesign
      @gilesdesign 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes I’m sure the cows really appreciate being called a lady and makes it ok to stick a knife in them with their permission. They love it.

    • @larrytrammell3713
      @larrytrammell3713 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      love the truck

  • @troydavis4452
    @troydavis4452 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kid you are one of the best farmers I have ever seen. You do good for your cows! 👍

  • @SparkeyDogfish
    @SparkeyDogfish 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice to see how much go’s into milk on our table. Real interesting. Even to see the piping setup for the pressure washer.

  • @Classifiedreality
    @Classifiedreality 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for taking the time, great show...keep on keeping on!

  • @timothyshepodd7826
    @timothyshepodd7826 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing Jan. Blessings!

  • @mckayladill5551
    @mckayladill5551 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "There's 13 cows here"
    Me: Counting the cows as he walks by😂

  • @steveadams99708
    @steveadams99708 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another nice video Jan. Happy guy with happy cows. Nice lookin' truck too! Thank you so much.

  • @rhondagroulx8544
    @rhondagroulx8544 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love watching your vids. Hope things go back to normal soon. Stay safe❤

  • @helenahusky2787
    @helenahusky2787 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is such a smart parlour! And your lovely cows are so clean! I'm trying to convince farmers the benefits of a body brush!!

    • @CalvesFanatic
      @CalvesFanatic 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wish we had one! Cows love scratching 😂

  • @joenoe7885
    @joenoe7885 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just wandering what its like to have a vacation???? Awesome the cows know lol....🚜 it amazes me how well all the equipment is taken care of...good job.

  • @whitebuffalodesigns1963
    @whitebuffalodesigns1963 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think you need a concrete wash rack where you wash your trucks and equipment, with a drainage system of course. Would be a whole lot less of a mud hole.

  • @joeymartin5080
    @joeymartin5080 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video! Thanks for sharing what you do and continuing to work hard despite what's going on in the World around you.

    • @saskdutchkid
      @saskdutchkid  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! Cows always gotta be milked!

  • @desross2002
    @desross2002 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    In a few years when you'll hit de one million suscribers, we will need to say: Jan, the man, the myth, the legend. Kudos my friend

    • @saskdutchkid
      @saskdutchkid  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hahahahaha sounds good to me! 😂

  • @dimduk
    @dimduk 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is no way that truck will make it to the highway clean. These are great videos, just good honest hard working farmers earning their living.

  • @Zikopiko04
    @Zikopiko04 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video made me smile thank you for that.

  • @matthatch7
    @matthatch7 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Chrome socket on a impact, what a bad boy

  • @petermclaren987
    @petermclaren987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You're amazing, working

  • @cowboyupnow63
    @cowboyupnow63 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Must be getting warmer all that mud you have to contend with.

  • @piglet1639
    @piglet1639 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I can’t believe I’m still watching cow videos and I’m fascinated. Was wondering do the cows always do things at their own pace ? They always move so slowly and what does the neck rail actually do ?

    • @elias007deco
      @elias007deco 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Had that same exact question ;D

    • @evan3784
      @evan3784 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So that don’t walk all the way in the stall and shit in there bed

    • @notapplicable430
      @notapplicable430 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      When the cow stands up in her stall her neck touches the neck rail which causes her to move back a step or two, which in turn causes her manure to fall into the manure alley rather than on her bed.

    • @piglet1639
      @piglet1639 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      k c thanks for that. Not sure I want to know now 😃

  • @eldonhoward7925
    @eldonhoward7925 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice truck!

  • @lonepine5596
    @lonepine5596 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mail seems slow in Canada same as in US, still wearing those worn out pants 🙊

  • @donnakelly1371
    @donnakelly1371 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your product placement hope it gets you sponsored

  • @bobbyecker8072
    @bobbyecker8072 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow your are a amazing young man. Real hard working man. Well done!!

  • @MrRussteach
    @MrRussteach 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow you drive that thing well. I would miss that spot every time.

  • @michaelbruning5786
    @michaelbruning5786 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You are an excellent example of personal initiative and professionalism. Have you ever thought about having summer training for young people interested in farming? It would be great if you passed along your knowledge to people who have no idea what farming entails. You would be doing the next generation a great favor. Think about it. Summer Training Program via on the job training and some reading re vaccines, environment, etc.

  • @xcalibertrekker6693
    @xcalibertrekker6693 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    That reminds me I have to pick up a gallon of milk today. ;-)

    • @saskdutchkid
      @saskdutchkid  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Awesome! 💪🏻💪🏻

  • @chasitysavage8448
    @chasitysavage8448 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the video. I learn so much.

    • @saskdutchkid
      @saskdutchkid  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad ya learned something!!!

  • @maxchef6203
    @maxchef6203 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jan, you are amazing!

  • @tseheather
    @tseheather 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That pressure washer would strip the paint off of my vehicle 😃

  • @alecfromminnenowhere2089
    @alecfromminnenowhere2089 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You still have a lot of snow. It gets better. We are almost in the fields down here in Minnenowhere.

  • @MrGeroth
    @MrGeroth 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad to see you drive a Ford.

  • @Miss65boo
    @Miss65boo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you talk more about what teat block is and what, if any, side effects it has?

  • @derrickeversman1469
    @derrickeversman1469 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Awesome vids man try and keep uploading as much as possible I know that it is hard sometimes when you get swamped with work around the farm I’m also a dairy farmer so I know that it is hard work and a lot of work

  • @VFXforfilm
    @VFXforfilm 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m in the wrong biz, DJI Mavic 2 is expensive but greatest drone out there now. Milk a does a wallet good.

  • @johnperry5102
    @johnperry5102 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video it was super, your a good teacher learned a lot today, thanks

  • @myronparks3495
    @myronparks3495 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice and clean facility you have. How long do you milk your cows before you dry them off?

  • @walidnaija2805
    @walidnaija2805 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I really like the way u treat the cow and the way u work u r such a professional farmer 💪🏻👍

  • @BWYinYang
    @BWYinYang 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Funny, Jan sits back and watch the tractor, auger, and truck do the job.
    The question is: Did Jan have a glass of milk while watching?

  • @rudysimmonds3252
    @rudysimmonds3252 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video and a nice truck too !

  • @keithjerauld1607
    @keithjerauld1607 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You say ladie# are they your ladies very beautiful lol

  • @erk891
    @erk891 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know nothing about farming, it looks very intresting. Thanks for teaching me

    • @saskdutchkid
      @saskdutchkid  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching and glad ya learned something!

    • @erk891
      @erk891 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      SaskDutch Kid my pleasure, hope everything’s going well for you!

  • @hugovanpelt5803
    @hugovanpelt5803 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    not sure if you do, but when I was your age we would milk our cows only once a day for a week prior to making them " go dry " . It really helped them dry up, a lot less problems too

  • @francoisbe7563
    @francoisbe7563 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey. Still good work. Always small details but that takes time. A question how many slopes are there in the waiting area for cows for good water flow? Thanks for sharing. Greetings from Switzerland. François.

  • @ranjitnyc
    @ranjitnyc 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    you never hesitate to get your hands dirty...very few times seen you wearing gloves ...cheers

  • @gillyovide3032
    @gillyovide3032 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Jan, was wondering how do you stop a cow from producing milk in their vacation period?

  • @jimmyjohn9637
    @jimmyjohn9637 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    1:58 that cow had a lot of crap coming out

    • @nathanabbott5324
      @nathanabbott5324 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      right? just eruption of poo lol

    • @jimmyjohn9637
      @jimmyjohn9637 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      nathan abbott and kept walking

    • @jerry2422
      @jerry2422 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I see... Checking a cow out

    • @jimmyjohn9637
      @jimmyjohn9637 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jeremy van Raalte no I heard the splatter and then saw the cow taking a fat crap in the back

    • @nathanabbott5324
      @nathanabbott5324 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jerry2422 it was like watching a train wreck at the county fair... you couldn't help but look for what was making that noise...

  • @albertcarbonneau8920
    @albertcarbonneau8920 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    6 1/2" stick or whatever work good when you have a lot to do.

  • @johnbenedictmoratalla7502
    @johnbenedictmoratalla7502 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoy watching your videos create more video 💞💖

  • @lewislindsey1946
    @lewislindsey1946 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Dutchy, do you have the cows hooves trimmed?

    • @wendy54321
      @wendy54321 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, he does. There are some videos with their hooves being trimmed .

  • @drshahzadakhurrammirza9517
    @drshahzadakhurrammirza9517 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice ingo. Plz keep it up. Wr learn alot from your videos. Nice.

  • @davidwpinkston4226
    @davidwpinkston4226 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    although the cows didn't, i winced when that needle went in

  • @robbrent
    @robbrent 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Surprised to see you using the handbrake on flat ground in the shed Jan. I learnt from farming family never to use the handbrake, thought it might be a universal thing. Another good video, thanks. Often wonder how the steel in the parlors handles being wet constantly, or is it all stainless?

  • @terrigelbaum8066
    @terrigelbaum8066 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are an amazing cow farmer. The cows are happy and your barn is so clean. I'd drink milk from your cows(I'm basically vegan)

  • @buvaneswaranpadmanabhan3254
    @buvaneswaranpadmanabhan3254 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    WE LIKE YOUR VIDEOS WE WANT MORE

  • @bmcc12
    @bmcc12 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is there a neck rail for the beds?

  • @salmonhunter7414
    @salmonhunter7414 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    We used to milk 18 cows twice a day by hand. I was not that good but my mom was like a machine. This was before quotas. We were from Hilversum. Stay safe and healthy and warm.

  • @farmshoffman8475
    @farmshoffman8475 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great awesome video, nice camera work

  • @BornAgainFarmGirl
    @BornAgainFarmGirl 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like you young man , I just subscribed 👩🏻‍🌾 .

  • @hanksfarmvideos
    @hanksfarmvideos 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree, neck rail placement is important! We've had to adjust ours a few times also

    • @saskdutchkid
      @saskdutchkid  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep just gotta fine tune it!

    • @aimeehope968
      @aimeehope968 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What is the purpose of the neck rail? Why even have one?

    • @simonhallgren5876
      @simonhallgren5876 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aimee Swearengin That stops them from standing in the bed so its nice and clean I think

    • @aimeehope968
      @aimeehope968 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Simon Hallgren so they have to teach themselves how to lay down and put their necks under the bar so they can use more of the full space?

  • @Tractors_Trucks_And_Pups
    @Tractors_Trucks_And_Pups 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    New series... pressure washing stuff!! How long will it take to get dirty🤷??

  • @zlinko
    @zlinko 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you ever Wash/bathe your cows? Would love to see a video of that.

  • @jashpalsingh5450
    @jashpalsingh5450 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi friend can u update one cow in one season how much lactating, and his feeding cost in one season, and how many day she is lactating, Ur data is help for us,

  • @grahambirkinshaw7683
    @grahambirkinshaw7683 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    3 questions if I may,
    When drying off the ladies outside, in that weather do they go inside at night? If not do they have trouble coping with the change from their shed protection.
    At any stage are the milkers ever outside to graze?
    Am only new to your chanel, love what you do and envious, so envious of lifestyle!
    G (australia)

  • @ulrikecanada
    @ulrikecanada 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where did they go on holiday?

  • @azanminhas1430
    @azanminhas1430 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:55 is the cow smoking 😂

  • @aidan6726
    @aidan6726 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    *running chrome sockets on an impact* that's a bold strategy cotton let's see if it pays of.

  • @sacura605
    @sacura605 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is sooo cool!!

  • @otorio2656
    @otorio2656 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Traducir en español, gracias😁

  • @oboyoboy4579
    @oboyoboy4579 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Next video I want you to clean the bobcat🤣

  • @tanishajohnson-gooden9140
    @tanishajohnson-gooden9140 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:54 is me after drinking a detox

  • @nancyparker3732
    @nancyparker3732 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you selling extra milk to pig farmers to add to their slop? Are there individual meat processors that can continue to process meat till meat plants are back up?

  • @heidim6468
    @heidim6468 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was wondering if you give them penicillin does the milk say penicillin free on the bottles of milk or what? Just wondering how that works.

  • @bettyrickert3358
    @bettyrickert3358 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job Mike I hope you get to finish. Praying you don’t have shingles ugh☹️☹️☹️☹️☹️☹️☹️

  • @Colevdbrink724
    @Colevdbrink724 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    sask 10th gen has a kid

  • @jackiescoggins8779
    @jackiescoggins8779 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you explain why that you give the cows a break for 2 months, What would be the reasons for that?

  • @willfallon8751
    @willfallon8751 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi ur one of the best yourubers in my opinion

  • @daisy6191
    @daisy6191 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Why don’t you do a video showing you family. Would be nice too see them.

    • @Timsticlestv
      @Timsticlestv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The Internet's full of weird people Ken....

    • @nancyparker3732
      @nancyparker3732 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Stay anonymous!

  • @georgegoertzen4723
    @georgegoertzen4723 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such an unfortunate situation in the world today where you have invested heavily in to meeting a demand for milk that in the blink of an eye, doesn't exist anymore. That you are able to cut some of your costs by lowering the quality and quantity of feed to some of your cows a bit before their scheduled dry off period is lucky. I hope that this situation doesn't have to continue for much longer so farmers like yourself can go back to doing what you do best.

  • @jmeyer3rn
    @jmeyer3rn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My husband is nearly completely deaf. Ear protection really easy to use and might change how you spend the last part of your life. Just saying.

  • @Zomsky
    @Zomsky 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I reckoned you would be a Ford guy!

  • @johnleden1909
    @johnleden1909 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a lot of salt used on the roads around your home?

  • @BoydGilbreath
    @BoydGilbreath 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dry cows sounds like losing money.

    • @VillainOfBrandon
      @VillainOfBrandon 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the idea is their bodies get a bit of a vacation and they will produce more milk over their lifetime as a result. So while they are not producing milk all the time, they may produce milk for a few extra years at the cost of a few months of not being productive.

  • @maisamno1
    @maisamno1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the procedure of putting dry cow for again milking

    • @TheWhiteGorillas
      @TheWhiteGorillas 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maisam Raza Tajri it calves and when it calves it’s got milk back in the tits and they start milking again

  • @dsgalaxymodels4632
    @dsgalaxymodels4632 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your dirty today lol what the heck lol

  • @tracyshewell9544
    @tracyshewell9544 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How many times a day do you milk?

  • @LLthereistome2024
    @LLthereistome2024 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sweet I like your transfer system, some I've seen that loose so much feed. I'm not saying there not great farmers either. I just like the way yours ogger system is.