The removable engine might be a reference to him being a power master, meaning that Knox and Skar his partners turned into his engine to unlock his transformation
I don't care what people say, (I've heard people hating on this) I still want it. I've always wanted a new version of the character and I'm glad it's not a Blitzwing repaint.
To anyone with issues with this figure, I highly encourage watching a review of the G1. I know Peaugh has a nice one from a few years back. G1 inheritance is definitely not a valid excuse for everything, but it's hard to see the original in detail and not like this version a bit better as a result. I do kinda wish they could've kept the dual powermaster for different modes gimmick, though.
Christ, the dead black eyes of the bird mode still give me the creeps years later. Lol! The bird head always reminded me of the Skexis from 'The Dark Crystal'. Pity they packaged Knox and Skar seperate from Doubledealer. They could have included them - you are paying leader class price after all.
Mafia man Veto Thrilling thirties Doubledealer was a recolour of the notoriously bad thrilling thirties Blitzwing mould. For more on that mould I recommend Jobbythehong’s video on it. I was making a joke that now that there’s an Earthrise Doubledealer, everyone will be trying to sell there old Doubledealers on eBay
I don't collect siege, but this guy was one of my favorites as a kid (with half the accessories missing of course and I didn't even know his name) so this review was very fun to watch for me. Thanks!
DoubleDealer:"Well, well, well. Reached an impasse, haven't we? Here's how it is, friends..." *aims guns at Prime & Megs, his shoulder's insignia corresponding to whonever he's pointing at.* DoubleDealer:"First to out bid the other eschews gettin' their head blown to slag."
Optimus: so you are that iron bird, who killed many of my good autobots during the war. All those sparks destroyed just for money? Megatron: I trusted Lockdown as I could throw him, but you, Dealer, you have proven to be even worse!
I just want to thank you for being such an entertaining person and helping me chill out after having to deal with all the bull crap of my family members
This figure is the perfect example of the good and bad of Earthrise. It's exactly the same as the original figure but with more modern engineering. That's really cool for those who just want that but to me it means they're way less interesting.
I think the g1 theme is really cool for the wfc trilogy, however i think it’s a good idea for the next stuff after kingdom to be either other old transformers interpretations, or something entirely new
That small removable piece in his torso is an engine,the original figure had Knock and Skar able to replace it and allow him to transform into an Autobot or Decepticon based on who you attached there
Double dealer is not an autobot or a decepticon he is a mercenary which means he is not on any side. Some other members are Knock,Skar,and Lockdown. Knock and Skar are tapes that can go in his chest. They were originally his powermasters/godmasters in G1
This character's colour scheme is so nice, gonna be good to finally have a blue WFC figure in my collection. Very worried about those legs, my Jetfire had pegs I had to file down or I felt like I was going to snap stuff. Definitely a case of too well-engineered! :')
Thanks! He looks great and I think I would enjoy this one even more than my G1 version. Ps. Love the fact the "powermaster" abs unit can detach for easy custom painting.
His abs are sculpted to look like Knok. His power master from his original toy which they also made gen selects versions of. His original toy was an Autobot robot and a decepticon bird with the missile truck being his neutral mode. Knok is his Autobot powermaster and Skar is his decepticon powermaster.
This looks damn near identical to the Doubledealer I had as an 8 year old. I see what they're going for there. I actually still have it complete with the two powermaster engines (Knok and Skar). The original did not have the tape storage feature, as a matter of fact, the chest plate was not attached to the figure and would only be put on when in robot mode. It was made to cover the long plastic folding joint that his head was attached to. The chestplate however could be attached to the back of the missile assembly when in vehicle or beast mode and it could hold a powermaster in engine mode. It didnt make much sense though so I never did that lol. My girlfriend just pre-ordered this newer figure for me and I'm really excited now after seeing this review! Great video!
The Thrilling 30 failed right off the gate when you consider that the context of his Jet(bird) Mode was supposed to be what the Decepticons see 100% of the tine.
As for the removable piece on the stomach, my only theory so far is that it looks like the engine of the bird powermaster, who put him into decepticon mode, which was the bird mode, and thus you'd never have seen that engine there in robot (autobot) mode. That's SUPER obscure, though, but then maybe they had an issue getting the mold to fill that far and opted for a 2-piece solution that also has a little Easter egg.
He was a GodMaster/powermaster in G1. Knok and Skar were the PM names. He was DoubleClouder in Masterforce. His human name was Clouder and had Cybertron and Destron armor. Thats why he has the compartment. I assume that was your question but if not... Sorry lol.
Speaking of the Blitzwing repaint I wonder if we’ll get a new Blitzwing figure hopefully with 3 different faces again to represent his Animated counterpart while still having a G1 accurate body.
Considering how accurate the Earthrise Trilogy is trying to be, I doubt they’ll do the 3-face gimmick. Plus it interfered with the thrilling 30’s head ay. Best to leave that gimmick as a unique trait of the animated character ay.
Just got mine today! Got him for nostalgia because I have the very used g1 version at my mom's 😄 Question though. There is this red square that came tapped to the back of the plastic packaging but I'm not sure what it's used for.
iv seen your review maybe 20 times!!! and i finally bought him... but i have un issue. as he stands up as a robot mode, he slighty turns to the left side. Im trying to fix him straight but he still goes to the side. I see you have the same issue at 19:23 ??? im a little bit nervous about that. Could you please answer me or some tips?? thanks...
The removable section on the torso is a nod to the original who was a power master a small figure would plug in so you could transform the doubledealer
You put the back piece on upside down in vehicle mode, those pads are stabilizers for dispersing kinetic energy from the rocket. Look at construction equipment like backhoes and power line utility trucks with crane bucket lifts.
I think this should get a remold as Machine Wars Soundwave. Would work great with the chest cassette storage gimmick...Stalker would be another great figure from this mold!
I was also thinking he'd go well with TR Sky Shadow, and honestly with POTP Punch/Counterpunch. A shelf of side changers would be fantastic and this guy is a must for such a shelf.
I went to look up his bio a while back and read some story about how he was found, talked into being a Decepticon by the one powermaster, but then later regretted his actions and turned Autobot with the help of the other powermaster.... and now I don't see that anywhere. I know his bio doesn't read like that, but I had thought it was his planned US cartoon storyline or from one of the comics. I'm now thinking it might've been somebody's damn fanfic and I somehow didn't realize. Anyway, glad I've got it right now and that I wasn't the only one confused.
He's a great update. much better than that Blitzwing repaint that came out a while back. I'm wondering if you could plug prime masters to him since he was a double power master in the old toyline. I think thats what the removable engine is for.
Great review once again man. Doubledealer and Scorponok are the figures I've been most excited about! Speaking of, you don't have Scoronok in hand yet for a review do you?
at 13:39 I believe you might, perhaps, be attatching the tailfeather/support struts parts to the back of his vehicle mode... upside down? I suspect this is so because, as you observe, the feathers part only folds one way and not one that would let it go up against the back of the vehicle mode.. Also the wider parts of the support struts are probably the feet, and so should be pointing down, no? Then again, I see on the underside there's some tabs that Might conflict with the head above if its turned over so maybe that really is how it should be mounted
The transformation doesn't look all that different from the G1 double dealer this one has a little bit more detail something about that g1 double dealer he was a power master and this figure obviously is not Something I don't like is the diecast plastic at the joint seemed to be extremely rigid and having very difficulty coming loose and I'm wondering if there's any like lubricant you can apply rubbing alcohol potentially something along those lines to maybe grease up the gears when you're trying to manipulate the figure and to actually transform it from one mode to the next
I don't know what it is about the earthrise but very little of the figures are actually catching my eye unlike siege did. Like I think some figures (including this one) look decent but none are jumping out at me
The undue-force knee parts require an imperative running-change improvement to end up sans stress marks! (Neither of merchantable quality nor reflecting an official Hasbro product.)
I'm not too fond of the gaps in the lower region of the figure in particular the thighs, the leader price point can't be justified with these gaps and I hope a 3rd party company makes gap fillers for this figure
Just a suggestion start in order ... Comes out of the box in robot mode you should go from there... In the whole video u didn't make it from robot to vehicle
I went to see this video for one important thing, I saw this on IG, and finally knew the name of the figure. This was my very first expensive transformers (I grew up in the Philippines so yeah, expensive lol) that my mom bought as a reward for finishing 2nd grade as first honors. I used to hate it, but now as an adult, I wish I held on to it and now I want one back again! 😭
No he's not. He was never marketed as a Horrorcon, he was never called a Horrorcon in any form of fiction, Apeface and Snapdragon are a generic ape and t-rex, not Godzilla and King Kong... why do people make things up and try to pass them off as fact, man?
Thanks all for your comments regarding the power master Easter egg. Check out this video to see it in action! th-cam.com/video/PiFMRDz02_o/w-d-xo.html
Doubledealer: has pinned wheels
PvP: *sweat* *intensifies*
Copperhead PrimeVsPrime
The removable engine might be a reference to him being a power master, meaning that Knox and Skar his partners turned into his engine to unlock his transformation
I don't care what people say, (I've heard people hating on this) I still want it. I've always wanted a new version of the character and I'm glad it's not a Blitzwing repaint.
I really looking forward to getting the Earthrise mercenary Doubledealer too. Way better then his repainted Blitzwing figure a while back.
I question those individuals that say the Blitzwing repaint is better.
@@ArtzzyKid Such is the benefit of triple changers.
To anyone with issues with this figure, I highly encourage watching a review of the G1. I know Peaugh has a nice one from a few years back. G1 inheritance is definitely not a valid excuse for everything, but it's hard to see the original in detail and not like this version a bit better as a result.
I do kinda wish they could've kept the dual powermaster for different modes gimmick, though.
@@lyokomajor those people are braindead
Christ, the dead black eyes of the bird mode still give me the creeps years later. Lol! The bird head always reminded me of the Skexis from 'The Dark Crystal'. Pity they packaged Knox and Skar seperate from Doubledealer. They could have included them - you are paying leader class price after all.
22:54 that piece is to attach to the peg on the generations selects cassettes to make them resemble power master engines
Patriot Prime jus reviewed them, Selects Soundave's Third Unit
Get ready for a boatload of thrilling 30s on eBay
I'm so down for that, missed out on it the first time around
? What
Mafia man Veto Thrilling thirties Doubledealer was a recolour of the notoriously bad thrilling thirties Blitzwing mould. For more on that mould I recommend Jobbythehong’s video on it. I was making a joke that now that there’s an Earthrise Doubledealer, everyone will be trying to sell there old Doubledealers on eBay
I have the thrilling 30s DD, not sure which one I'll make Doubleclouder once I get the Earthrise one though
the true Commander they're the same fucking character
I don't collect siege, but this guy was one of my favorites as a kid (with half the accessories missing of course and I didn't even know his name) so this review was very fun to watch for me. Thanks!
Thanks for checking it out my friend :)
DoubleDealer:"Well, well, well. Reached an impasse, haven't we? Here's how it is, friends..." *aims guns at Prime & Megs, his shoulder's insignia corresponding to whonever he's pointing at.* DoubleDealer:"First to out bid the other eschews gettin' their head blown to slag."
Optimus: so you are that iron bird, who killed many of my good autobots during the war. All those sparks destroyed just for money?
Megatron: I trusted Lockdown as I could throw him, but you, Dealer, you have proven to be even worse!
@@copperhead577 I tend to think Doubledealer would have an accent similar to Overlord from the Machinima series with the same inflections
Chocoboba Fett I’m thinking about dub Hol Horse would fit him nicely
Love the "Whats up guys" Prime
Haha thanks! thought i'd try something different for a change :)
@@PrimeVsPrime Its a good change
@@PrimeVsPrime hello, I'm Besnik.
Same, sounds a bit more down to earth
Hi@@besnikzogaj9887 im carbonwolf
I'm liking that Primevsprime's intro is getting more and more different to add more personality in his reviews. Keep up the good work!
I just want to thank you for being such an entertaining person and helping me chill out after having to deal with all the bull crap of my family members
Awh wow thanks! Glad I can help
This figure is the perfect example of the good and bad of Earthrise. It's exactly the same as the original figure but with more modern engineering. That's really cool for those who just want that but to me it means they're way less interesting.
I think the g1 theme is really cool for the wfc trilogy, however i think it’s a good idea for the next stuff after kingdom to be either other old transformers interpretations, or something entirely new
hmm, I wonder if Hasbro will repaint and slightly remold this guy for Cybertron Defense Red Alert to go with Seige Hotshot
and siege leader prime
Hed make a way better stalker/ m.w. soundwave
The Big Mike I agree
If they brought back hot shot they should bring back blackjack
Probably be a generations select
Man, how have I missed your channel?! Definitely subbed!! Your enthusiasm for this guy is infectious, and I now HAVE to get this guy. Wow.
That small removable piece in his torso is an engine,the original figure had Knock and Skar able to replace it and allow him to transform into an Autobot or Decepticon based on who you attached there
Man your the peak of tf reviewing even with this being 4 years old it still holds up as a great review!
Im just now watching this too. That was really during pandemic times
Definitely a nice upgraded version of the G1 and I love that insignia switch
Double dealer is not an autobot or a decepticon he is a mercenary which means he is not on any side. Some other members are Knock,Skar,and Lockdown. Knock and Skar are tapes that can go in his chest. They were originally his powermasters/godmasters in G1
Your review style has really improved leaps and bounds since the Astrotrain review. Well done. You got yourself a subscriber.
Wow thank you! :)
This character's colour scheme is so nice, gonna be good to finally have a blue WFC figure in my collection. Very worried about those legs, my Jetfire had pegs I had to file down or I felt like I was going to snap stuff. Definitely a case of too well-engineered! :')
Yeah the legs are for sure an issue when transforming him into bird mode for sure
I definitely WILL BUY this Double Dealer. I missed the old Double Dealer toy in my 80s bcos I was a kid back then.
Thanks! He looks great and I think I would enjoy this one even more than my G1 version. Ps. Love the fact the "powermaster" abs unit can detach for easy custom painting.
His abs are sculpted to look like Knok. His power master from his original toy which they also made gen selects versions of. His original toy was an Autobot robot and a decepticon bird with the missile truck being his neutral mode. Knok is his Autobot powermaster and Skar is his decepticon powermaster.
I’ll be adding him as I love the obscure transformers characters
I wish his legs could stretch out juuuust a bit more, that would free up his knee range and improve his proportions a bit
You can remove the engine block and attach it to Knok and Skar's flip out 5cm peg to replicate the powermaster engines.
This looks damn near identical to the Doubledealer I had as an 8 year old. I see what they're going for there. I actually still have it complete with the two powermaster engines (Knok and Skar). The original did not have the tape storage feature, as a matter of fact, the chest plate was not attached to the figure and would only be put on when in robot mode. It was made to cover the long plastic folding joint that his head was attached to. The chestplate however could be attached to the back of the missile assembly when in vehicle or beast mode and it could hold a powermaster in engine mode. It didnt make much sense though so I never did that lol. My girlfriend just pre-ordered this newer figure for me and I'm really excited now after seeing this review! Great video!
The Thrilling 30 failed right off the gate when you consider that the context of his Jet(bird) Mode was supposed to be what the Decepticons see 100% of the tine.
Kiem Ares Goof point, he had two robot modes not two alt modes.
Just ordered thanks to this review. Just transformed my G1 for the first time today.
The waste gimmick is a throwback to his power master. Kinda neat how they put everything in
People who had the older version in the past will truly know how to react to this!
I picked this guy up and have been very happy. I’m glad he came in bot mode, so he can display well. Very good review and transformation walkthrough
I don't care how early anyone else gets new figures, Primevsprime does it better.
Ah thank you! :)
Cant wait for scorponock
I could Totally have seen a CYBERTRON DEFENSE REDALERT repainted as Doubledealer as a possible special back in the day :D
As for the removable piece on the stomach, my only theory so far is that it looks like the engine of the bird powermaster, who put him into decepticon mode, which was the bird mode, and thus you'd never have seen that engine there in robot (autobot) mode. That's SUPER obscure, though, but then maybe they had an issue getting the mold to fill that far and opted for a 2-piece solution that also has a little Easter egg.
He was a GodMaster/powermaster in G1. Knok and Skar were the PM names. He was DoubleClouder in Masterforce. His human name was Clouder and had Cybertron and Destron armor. Thats why he has the compartment. I assume that was your question but if not... Sorry lol.
looks like the black clip on the missile may connect to the top of the tank of Overlord or Sky Shadow
🎵Fill my eyes with that Doubledealer🎵
Speaking of the Blitzwing repaint I wonder if we’ll get a new Blitzwing figure hopefully with 3 different faces again to represent his Animated counterpart while still having a G1 accurate body.
Considering how accurate the Earthrise Trilogy is trying to be, I doubt they’ll do the 3-face gimmick.
Plus it interfered with the thrilling 30’s head ay.
Best to leave that gimmick as a unique trait of the animated character ay.
The triple charger Decepticon Blitzwing, highly likely to be in the WFC Trilogy toyline. With the three faces gimmick, unlikely.
First change right off the bat, on the G1 figure the missile attached under the belly of bird mode.
Great review! Doubledealer is nealy perfect! I look forward to your review of Titan Class Scorponock, you probably already have him
Thanks!
Surprisingly this figure isn't nearly as bad as I thought, great video.
Just got mine today! Got him for nostalgia because I have the very used g1 version at my mom's 😄
Question though. There is this red square that came tapped to the back of the plastic packaging but I'm not sure what it's used for.
I had this as a kid. Looking forward to this version. Isn't this available by July?
iv seen your review maybe 20 times!!! and i finally bought him... but i have un issue. as he stands up as a robot mode, he slighty turns to the left side. Im trying to fix him straight but he still goes to the side. I see you have the same issue at 19:23 ??? im a little bit nervous about that. Could you please answer me or some tips?? thanks...
That head sculpt is really good
The removable section on the torso is a nod to the original who was a power master a small figure would plug in so you could transform the doubledealer
Doubledealer is a great counterpart for Ultra Magnus. Definitely making him a Decepticon to face off against UM.
I believe you could add that stomach piece on the back of Knox in robot mode to make him more G1 accurate imho
You put the back piece on upside down in vehicle mode, those pads are stabilizers for dispersing kinetic energy from the rocket. Look at construction equipment like backhoes and power line utility trucks with crane bucket lifts.
It’s the correct way. It’s the only way it pegs on. Any other way and it won’t peg on due the head
This is a Day 1 purchase for sure. That robot mode looks amazing
Vamos a jugar barajas.
I love the auto bot deception emblem gimmick
I think this should get a remold as Machine Wars Soundwave. Would work great with the chest cassette storage gimmick...Stalker would be another great figure from this mold!
I know he’s a baddie and turns good but it would be cool to see him with lockdown and swindle
I was also thinking he'd go well with TR Sky Shadow, and honestly with POTP Punch/Counterpunch. A shelf of side changers would be fantastic and this guy is a must for such a shelf.
Wait so doubledealer was bad but he’s good now?
Uh, no he isn't. Doubleclouder played both sides in Masterforce, but he's never been a "baddie turned good."
I went to look up his bio a while back and read some story about how he was found, talked into being a Decepticon by the one powermaster, but then later regretted his actions and turned Autobot with the help of the other powermaster.... and now I don't see that anywhere. I know his bio doesn't read like that, but I had thought it was his planned US cartoon storyline or from one of the comics. I'm now thinking it might've been somebody's damn fanfic and I somehow didn't realize.
Anyway, glad I've got it right now and that I wasn't the only one confused.
The intro was a surprise to be sure but a welcome one.
Haha thanks!
on the truck mode try turning the extra bit upside down,it can cover the head and over all make the truck more believable
Finally an earthrise review
The mushroom pegs on the legs on my copy of double dealer snapped after a month
22:45 that's supposed to be Clouder, his Godmaster in the Super-God Masterforce anime.
Transformania in Japan It is. In America that character is knock
He's a great update. much better than that Blitzwing repaint that came out a while back. I'm wondering if you could plug prime masters to him since he was a double power master in the old toyline. I think thats what the removable engine is for.
Yes, Doubledealer was a Powermaster Triple-Changer.
Great review once again man. Doubledealer and Scorponok are the figures I've been most excited about! Speaking of, you don't have Scoronok in hand yet for a review do you?
Hadn't planned on getting this, but after leaving off some of the accessories and painting it black, it will be a perfect IDW Roller
I cant wait to get this guy ever since it came out i wad in awe. WHY CANT CHRISTMAS BE HERE ALREADY!!!
Why does he have decepticon logos on his shoulders
This character better be on the show, especially as a merc.
at 13:39 I believe you might, perhaps, be attatching the tailfeather/support struts parts to the back of his vehicle mode... upside down? I suspect this is so because, as you observe, the feathers part only folds one way and not one that would let it go up against the back of the vehicle mode.. Also the wider parts of the support struts are probably the feet, and so should be pointing down, no?
Then again, I see on the underside there's some tabs that Might conflict with the head above if its turned over so maybe that really is how it should be mounted
Um, I'm not sure, but, is there a Doubledealer figure that the missle is on the crotch of the bird mode?
This could make a great Red Alert retool (sorta)
In G1 DoubleDealer was a Power Master, i Believe you can remove That in Order to plug a Power Master there
Knok and skar are his power masters
This is a MUST GET!!!
The transformation doesn't look all that different from the G1 double dealer this one has a little bit more detail something about that g1 double dealer he was a power master and this figure obviously is not
Something I don't like is the diecast plastic at the joint seemed to be extremely rigid and having very difficulty coming loose and I'm wondering if there's any like lubricant you can apply rubbing alcohol potentially something along those lines to maybe grease up the gears when you're trying to manipulate the figure and to actually transform it from one mode to the next
I don't know what it is about the earthrise but very little of the figures are actually catching my eye unlike siege did. Like I think some figures (including this one) look decent but none are jumping out at me
It’s the character choices. The movie characters and the 84/85 bots are the best imo.
Where you getting these new figures
How do they get the figures so early?!! Somebody please tell me!!!
The arms are loose on mine. Their on pins so I can't tighten them up. He can't hold his gun up.
how did you acquire doubledealer so fast
Honestly, I wish his missile was larger
Haha bigger than it already is O_O Hasbro would label it a Titan Class haha :')
*inhale* that's what she said
Pablito Magill beat me to it.
I think a good idea for them to release a leader class sixshot figure
The undue-force knee parts require an imperative running-change improvement to end up sans stress marks! (Neither of merchantable quality nor reflecting an official Hasbro product.)
Just wished they filled out the hollow legs in the robot mode.
I luv ur videos keep up the awesome work
Waiting for the Skipjack review
Waiting for the Blitzwing review.
I'm not too fond of the gaps in the lower region of the figure in particular the thighs, the leader price point can't be justified with these gaps and I hope a 3rd party company makes gap fillers for this figure
Just a suggestion start in order ... Comes out of the box in robot mode you should go from there... In the whole video u didn't make it from robot to vehicle
We want the earthrise bumblebee!!!!!!!!
Or earthrise hot rod@@@@@
Call me weird, but I can see this getting a repaint into Cybertron Defense Red Alert.
The little motor can plug into the back of knok or skar from the upcoming cassette 4 pack coming out in a month.
Oh nice thanks!
Apoxamatly 3 modes?
woah thats cool. Love that blue on it
I went to see this video for one important thing, I saw this on IG, and finally knew the name of the figure. This was my very first expensive transformers (I grew up in the Philippines so yeah, expensive lol) that my mom bought as a reward for finishing 2nd grade as first honors. I used to hate it, but now as an adult, I wish I held on to it and now I want one back again! 😭
You Live UK??
Anyways
Earthrise i hope will be A GOOD Figure . HOW DO U GET SKY LYNX So EARLY 🤨😒🤔
He is from the future
Only waiting for all studio series to be in stock
omg where did you get theat from?
OMG I can use the carrier alt mode to holdup the previous DOUBLEDEALER JET, want to try custom headmaster/kickback
I flipped the back piece. Folds up over the head and the legs go out 90 degrees for the hydraulic stability when launching the rocket
I can not wait to get Doubledealer. :D
BTW did you know he's also a Horrorcon - Apeface and Snapdragon turn into King Kong and Godzilla respectively - Doubledealer likewise turns into a roc
No he's not. He was never marketed as a Horrorcon, he was never called a Horrorcon in any form of fiction, Apeface and Snapdragon are a generic ape and t-rex, not Godzilla and King Kong... why do people make things up and try to pass them off as fact, man?