this is the best video I’ve ever seen on parabolic reflectors .Without question!!!!!! don’t miss the extra bonus at the end and don’t try this at home unless you’re an expert
When I worked at a newspaper, the photo department had two 1930s-vintage Smith-Victor lights with polished parabolic reflectors about 48 inches in diameter. They were mounted on cast-iron rolling stands and used 250w photoflood lamps. The light they put out was just merciless, but they had one huge advantage: no subject, no matter how vain, wanted to stand in front of them a moment longer than necessary, so headshot photo sessions were always short!
Truth be told, this video's information is something I have to work up to. I've watched the video 3 times and understood it more each time. Keep the deep dive coming. I'd love to see the mirrored finished Parabolic Reflector in use.
Hi Alonzo, Thank you. I will definitely have more to come. Probably wont use the Parabolic in the end of the video in content because it cannot be accesed by all. But it is similar to a bronoclor Satelite.
Fantastic video, never seen parabolic reflectors explained in so much detail, so tended to avoid them in the studio. Will give it a play next time I venture in. Thank you.
This is absolutely fantastic. Kudos to you and the team for putting together such an amazing and informative video. I love parabolic reflectors. These are definitely a good side by side comparison and you can see just how soft one is versus how hard and specular the light of the Brincolor is
Amazing, again! Gotta admit, I'm big fan of all the Adorama-presenters, Gavin, Daniel, Lindsay, Emily, Pye - I learned so much from all of them. But your videos, Ab, take the top spot with ease, wow !! And as the cherry on top goes your model Hayley who shows some classic beauty in front of your camera. Looking forward to more videos.
Thank you so much Ronny, I definitely have more on the way. Excited to share. All the creators here do a great Job. I'm really grateful to be a part of the team.
It's been said again and again, but I have to say it one more time : awesome video. I love the fact that it's so well made that beginners can understand it, but it has enough meat for lighting geeks too. I've been looking into buying a para for a while now, but still undecided as to which ones to buy. Broncolor and Briese are out of question because I won't drop that kind of money on something that I have no experience with. I think one of the biggest challenge is also to know which ones are true parabolic shapes. I think the best budget options right now might be : Godox SMDV Parabolix But I'm not even sure if the SMDV are true para. I find it insane how some infos on lighting stuff is so hard to find online.
Thank you Guy. I think so few people use them and therefore i agree there is a lack of content on them. Ive only used the Godox out of the list below. After the hape I think the fabric is the second thing to look at along with the size you want.
Hey Ab. Swordtalon here. Great video. You went above and beyond here. Thanks for the information. That parabolic reflector would make for a great dobsonian mirror from the looks of it.
This is the most compelling video that has broken down the use, uniqueness and the importance of this wonderful light modifier. I had invested in the Broncolor Para 133 when an opportunity came in 2020 during a special promotion post Black Friday. While we have not been using it as much because the Broncolor Siros L we purchased with it is way front heavy. We are investing in a new power pack to optimise it soon so it will be highly appreciated if you can do more videos on the various ways this unique light tool can be put to good use. PARABOLIC ALL THE WAY!
What fabulous video that is well balanced and full of common sense on what can be perceived as a complicated topic. How about a master class « hands on » type video on para use in studio including proper grip, position, adjustment and so on?
Hi, Ramy it is made it from spare parts I had in the studio always trying to build some custom light to solve some problem. THe base of the unit is the Godox Para 133 adapter to a aluminium parabolic reflector I have.
Just ran across this video Ab and all I can say is wow. When you went into the math it reminded me of some my college courses :) . Definitely good information and like you said there are levels of this. I'll definitely refer back to this video when I get to level and budget of using Parabolic Reflectors.
Ab! This is lighting information GOLD! Love the comparison between the godox and broncolor. THIS is the kind of content I subscribed to Adorama TH-cam for! #paranomatterwhat
This is a fantastic video. I would really love to see a follow up where you diffuse the light. I know it would destroy the purpose of the parabolic, but I think that it would be very valuable to compare the final images for "softness". It would end a lot internet debates on how much diffusion adds to the softness of light.
Hi EBL and time of me shooting the diffusors were out of stock, but i was able to get a Broncolor diffusor and it fit the GODOX perfectly to my supprise. Hopefully in future video Ill have the right opportunity to demonstrate it. Thank you for watching. -Ab
If you swap out the diffused white glass dome on the Profoto Pro head with a clear dome you will get even punchier light. Even smaller light source illuminating the surface rather the diffused light. Great video. Loved seeing the reflective differences between the Godox and Bron. I like the punchier look of the Bron way better personally. I have two Bron Para's coming in this week - 88 and 177.
Jared you sure know our light. An 88 and a 177. Yeah I know they have a 25% discount right now which is CRAZY! I won't say which one I'm partial to, but I like your taste my friend.
@@AbSesayPhoto yeah, 25% off plus a free grid for each one. Was too crazy good to not jump on that offer. Initially just bought the 88, but then got a nice corporate gig that basically paid for the 177 so I went ahead and just pulled the trigger. Very rare they have a deal this good.
Great video! I'd love to see the effect of a grid on the para 133 or similar: what does it do to fall-off and definition of the edge of the light cone? I now often use a Bron P70 gridded reflector as main light to shoot dance and like the results, but could do with more detail in the shadows while maintaining punchy light.
Thank you Filibert. The grid narrows the spread of light, and depending on the distance to your subject and the focus of the para can cause shadows. I have not fully tested the grids with them. I really love the bare light.
Does it make a difference how many light sources do you have to supply a light source to the parabolic? Maybe I should elaborate the content of my question: In a standard case, we do have one light source attached to the exact in the center axis of the parabola (parabolic reflector). Instead of one light source, if we place two, or three, or four smaller light sources (e.g., several speedlights) does it affect the final quality of the light and how it illuminates the subject? For instance, would it cause multiple shadows or would it blend them and throw one unique light source. I am asking this, because I saw in a case where four tubes (continuous light sources) were placed in a Briese umbrella. Is there a diameter factor, where this might be tolerated? Such as under/above that (X cm) it does not make any difference as the light dissipation is compensated by the light gathering potential of the reflector. Or is there a tolerance limitation related to the number of light sources? Such as No difference after three or four or five small light sources - or two or three light sources do not provide a full symmetrical coverage within the reflector. Or the tolerance is negligible if the distance between the small lightsources is smaller/bigger than XXX amount of proportional relationship. (For instance: for a 130 cm diameter reflector, the distance between the small light sources must be smaller than 25 cm to eliminate multiple shadows or unevenness in the light pattern). I hope, I did not go too geeky : ) But this is a very interesting question as it might open up some other ways of usage -or a learning for not to try for getting useless results : )) You might think of this question also as an extension of the usage of recessed vs non-recessed light sources. I asked the same question before to several guys who did videos on parabolic reflectors. But no one did answer / even returned to my question. Maybe you do. Thank you !
Hi Opqrst7 Some of your questions are easy, but others simply have too many variables resulting in the need for my answer to be more of an essay. Ultimately, I don’t think the essay would prove much as again there are just too many variables, and I'm a firm believer in testing. So my honest answer to your overall question is I don't know but read below for some things I can clarify The more lights, you put in an umbrella you will get more overall output, but this may not mean the concentrated area of output is more. Meaning with a single head, the point of focus may enable you to light a square meter brighter, but many lights may light 10 square meters brighter. The long tubes take advantage of the focus point of the umbrella but also other areas of it as well giving you the look of using multiple positions in the parabolic at the same time. The one question I would ask back is in one sentence. What are you trying to achieve? The variables are, 1) Beam angle of the light source 2) Position of the light source to the axis of symmetry along the y axis, 3) position on the axis of the symmetry x-axis, 4) Relative size of the umbrella to the light sources used 5) Size of the umbrella relative to the size of the subject illuminated 6) Number of sides used to construct the parabolic reflector 7) Materials used to create the reflective interior of the parabolic reflector. etc Again what are you trying to achieve, what is the end result you are looking for?
@@AbSesayPhoto Actually, my question has two purposes: 1- Sometimes it is either easier and lighter to carry two or three speedlights or portable small strobes (e.g., Godox AD 300) when you need to be on location rather than to take a big strobe (e.g., Broncolor Siros L or Profoto Pro head with a big powerpack) with you. Also, it is a matter of a power supply. You must have either a battery operated big strobe or a powerbank (heavy stuff). 2- Let's say, pop in a few 300W small lights also provide more power rather than one 500 or 800 J one big strobe on location. In an on-location shooting scenario, taking with you 3 or 4 Godox AD300s allows you to be lighter when traveling and gives you more power. The question is: does it have a drawback (or where it might start messing up) mounting a few lights rather than a one light? (Finding a solution for mounting is not that difficult). * So, I am looking for a solution for more efficiency and mobility when being on location. This might be a subject to a hands-on investigation -as you also mentioned. ** Since you can individually change the power output of light sources, it may allow you to obtain interesting or creative lighting results from virtually one-light source, that is to say, one parabolic reflector (!?). Worth discovering...
@@opqrst7 I totally understand. Without an assistant or a really controlled location, I probably wouldn't bring a Para with me unless the environment was really controlled. Plus you will need a heavier duty stand, when using in the defocused position there is a lot of leverage being put on the stand. My guess is speedlights would have a similar effect to the head with the recessed front.
@@AbSesayPhoto My main concern here is that there is a multiple light sources rather than one head. The question/concern is whether a multiple-source cause multiple shadows or an uneven light spread? If there is a wiggle room, where does the tolerance start-number of light sources and/or the distance between the small light sources to act like a one-light source? I know it sounds a little geeky, but it might have practical or creative applications. Indeed, with speedlights, it might have a front recessed result, but with small Godox AD-300 like lights it might work better-of course, if it works.
@@opqrst7 I totally understand your questions I just have not tried it. Based on what I know about parabolic reflectors all your concerns are valid, and again there are a number of variables that would affect this. It's something that needs to be tested. WIth speedlights being so focused they are not optimal for a parabolic reflector.
Hi Alex. I'm not sure that the profounds are True (Mathematically Correct) parabolic reflectors. The term gets thrown around loosely to anything that is oval in shape these days. The broncolor has been an industry standard for years and a great expression of a Ture parabolic reflector in the photo industry. I often think about what is the best tool for teaching not for sales.
Hey Ab amazing video that’s still holding up! Could you do a video showing off the mirror parabolic vs the bron paras. Very much curious about the difference even though there isn’t really a practical use case for the mirror parabolic for studio work. Would also love to hear the back story to the custom job! Lastly is the new Godox Beamlight Max90 a parabolic modifier? I’ve been wondering if it’s pointed at a talent/scene, would it act like a fresnel of that size? The marketing just talks about throwing light at long distances. Would love actually a 3 way comparison between the bron para, the mirror para, and the Godox Beammax! :)
Hi - I love these question. Let me see what I able to produce. IM sure the godox uses a parabolic refelctor in it. Many of these have a well polished peice of medal to get very parallel rays.
Great video, and clear explanation of concepts, but one question, how much light is needed to illuminate this modifier in w/s, 250, 400, 1200? As not many people say what is required for each size, for optimum performance.
Hey Andy, this is totally based on what your desired exposure is. They are so efficient that I would say you would have no issues with a 250ws strobe. They are more efficient than a softbox or a normal umbrella of similar size if that is an easier comparison to make.
I look forward to see what else is in store. One little Easter Egg that I've found is that when you have your light source at the true focus point, you'll see spokes of light in your parabolic. This is presuming you have an omnidirectional bulb. Parabolic no matter what.
It might be worth adding that pure collimated light is also exactly what we get from the sun on a clear sky - or from any light when the subject to light distance is huge compared to the length of the subject, and the light appears small to the subject. Normal light falls off as you get further from it according to the inverse square law, but as it does it compensates by being able to illuminate a larger subject. Pure collimated light does not fall off at all, because it isn't spreading out to cover a larger subject.
I love when we get to geek out. Direct sunlight has a beam with an angle of collimation of ~0.5 degrees. So so it is roughly parallel to plus or minus 0.25 degrees. Perfect would be 0 which to my knowledge even lasers don't achieve this also very close. I'm not sure if I have ever seen pure single source collimated light of absolute 0.
Question: These parabolics are really freaking expensive. Would you not get the same result and control by buying a parabolic umbrella and adjust the position of the light/flash by moving the metal rod further in or out?
HI Prime, sorry for the late response. When you say "parabolic umbrella" are you talking about a normal umbrella. I think the work parabolic gets thrown around when something is deep and ovoid by not truly parabolic. You can get similar but not the same results depending on the umbrall. Some large deep silver umbrellas do have a nice quality of light, but parabolics are different.
Hey Mr G. It interesting to see what look everyone is geared towards. Im just happy there seem to be more options eveyday. I do love the Broncolor myself.
Wait a minute... I was suuuper hyped during the whole video, already knew thought that Broncolor would be impossible to afford for 99% of us, so then I go check Godox as I have quite a few things from them already such as a "AD400PRO" but then I realize the Parabolic 128 is a GIGANTIC 1500$USD?!? What the hell is it gold plated or what? I guess it doesn't even come with the light tube at this price neither? Can you even use 2x speed lights sandwiched and with the "wide panel flipped", or something like the AD400 or I need something special that only fits on this? Why is it so much but when I check something a bit similar such as the (Godox QR-P120) it's not even 200$? O_o
Hi PanzerIV if you see it in person the build quality it a bit more substantial and the carry case is great just as good as the broncolor case. It does come with everything you need if you shoot with a Bowens mount light. In the video I do discuss the difference using it without a 180 degree tube. Using a speed light it will fill the box shaper differently. I never testing it with a speedlight though.
If you make money with your photography, I would consider first if you desire such a modifier for your use. If you do, then I'd consider getting such a setup because long term, it will pay itself off and you can use it as a tax write off for your business. I personally own the Grand 120 by Hensel and I really like the light it produces. I have used however the Para 133 in workshops and it's a thing of beauty since you have the adjustable center column.
So much effort, so much money, and such an insignificant result? If you put a photo taken with a parabolic umbrella next to it, and a photo taken with an ordinary silver umbrella, none of the parabolic "fans" will be able to distinguish them. I guarantee it.
This is definitely a matter of taste. I personally see the difference, but you are correct at times it can take a trained eye, but to me, there is a radical difference. I appreciate your input and feedback. I would love to know what you think of the other videos in my playlist.
If “real” parabolic reflectors wouldn’t be that expensive, even the Godox is very expensive, let alone Broncolor or Briese. And I’m not talking about the so called parabolic softboxes, which are just annoyingly cumbersome softboxes.
A Speedlightht works like a head with a built-in/recessed tube. To get similar light to the defocused position but with broader specular highlights I would point a speedlights into an umbrella and then back into two V-Flats behind you and then out to your model in front of you. To get a more focused look you can point your speedlight directly at your model and zoom the head. But ultimately the light from the 222 is very unique in my opinion.
Congrats Ab you’ve done the definitive Para video
Thank you. Very Very Very much appreciated. Man I need to talk to you about that 24.
this is the best video I’ve ever seen on parabolic reflectors .Without question!!!!!! don’t miss the extra bonus at the end and don’t try this at home unless you’re an expert
Thank you, Clifford.
Is this THE! Cliff Hausner?!?!?
One thing that I like about Ab is that I always feel the he speaks to me at a restaurant or a coffee shop he is amazing, thanks for sharing!
Thank you so much. I definitly want everyone to walk away with as much information as possible.
One of the best teachers. Knows his subject in accurate depth.
Thank you so much, John, I truly appreciate the feedback.
A monument of competence this guy.
Huge Compliment. Thank you Das.
When I worked at a newspaper, the photo department had two 1930s-vintage Smith-Victor lights with polished parabolic reflectors about 48 inches in diameter. They were mounted on cast-iron rolling stands and used 250w photoflood lamps. The light they put out was just merciless, but they had one huge advantage: no subject, no matter how vain, wanted to stand in front of them a moment longer than necessary, so headshot photo sessions were always short!
LOL! Great story J.L. Thank you for sharing!
Truth be told, this video's information is something I have to work up to. I've watched the video 3 times and understood it more each time. Keep the deep dive coming. I'd love to see the mirrored finished Parabolic Reflector in use.
Hi Alonzo, Thank you. I will definitely have more to come. Probably wont use the Parabolic in the end of the video in content because it cannot be accesed by all. But it is similar to a bronoclor Satelite.
So freaking informative. Adoarama, please make more of these. Ab- good job bro. You make it so easy to understand.
Thank you Trupal. My Man! Denzel Washington Voice.
Fantastic video, never seen parabolic reflectors explained in so much detail, so tended to avoid them in the studio. Will give it a play next time I venture in. Thank you.
Thank you Andy. They are a great tool.
This is absolutely fantastic. Kudos to you and the team for putting together such an amazing and informative video. I love parabolic reflectors. These are definitely a good side by side comparison and you can see just how soft one is versus how hard and specular the light of the Brincolor is
Thank you TestShoot.
The most thorough and understandable explanation of a parabolic I’ve seen to date. Really appreciate the comparisons. Thank you for this Ab!
Thank you Donnamaria. I appreciate you.
I love my parabolic reflectors. They are my go to modifier. The speaker does a great job explaining the topic.
Thank you "Noodles" I really appreciate that.
@@AbSesayPhoto love the homemade heat lamp. 😀
@@bowl0noodles LOL. It's hot for sure.
Another great video PARA no matter what!
Thank you Samuel.
This is the best video I've seen on this subject so far. Glad to see someone not afraid of exploring the basic math! Well done, keep it up.
Thank you. I definitely tried by best on this one.
This is the most comprehensive explanation and demonstration of Paras I’ve seen - thanks!
Thank you. That was my goal. Definitely put a lot of work into this one.
Very well done video. Great work.
Thank you!
Ab is a fantastic lecturer!
Thank you Pat. Really appreciate the feedback.
Amazing, again! Gotta admit, I'm big fan of all the Adorama-presenters, Gavin, Daniel, Lindsay, Emily, Pye - I learned so much from all of them. But your videos, Ab, take the top spot with ease, wow !! And as the cherry on top goes your model Hayley who shows some classic beauty in front of your camera. Looking forward to more videos.
Thank you so much Ronny, I definitely have more on the way. Excited to share. All the creators here do a great Job. I'm really grateful to be a part of the team.
It's been said again and again, but I have to say it one more time : awesome video. I love the fact that it's so well made that beginners can understand it, but it has enough meat for lighting geeks too.
I've been looking into buying a para for a while now, but still undecided as to which ones to buy. Broncolor and Briese are out of question because I won't drop that kind of money on something that I have no experience with.
I think one of the biggest challenge is also to know which ones are true parabolic shapes. I think the best budget options right now might be :
Godox
SMDV
Parabolix
But I'm not even sure if the SMDV are true para.
I find it insane how some infos on lighting stuff is so hard to find online.
Thank you Guy. I think so few people use them and therefore i agree there is a lack of content on them. Ive only used the Godox out of the list below. After the hape I think the fabric is the second thing to look at along with the size you want.
Hey Ab. Swordtalon here. Great video. You went above and beyond here. Thanks for the information. That parabolic reflector would make for a great dobsonian mirror from the looks of it.
Thank you Sword Talon.
I've learnt so much in this video. THANKS, TEAM ADORAMA & Ab.
Thank you LKK
Great job - really way to keep the geeky while making it easy to understand
Thank you, JC. Means a lot coming from someone with your experience and background.
Para no ,after what ! Thank you for this video - easily the best I have seen on paras.
Thank you Alan.
Love watching your videos! Always so informative and clear. Thank you for all that you do :)
Thank you Gabrielle!
Well said mentioning the texture. It's usually overlooked that detail. Thank you Ab.
Your Welcome Neopulse. I'm all about the details but I hope not overwhelming. Thank you for the feedback.
Excellent, Ab. Thank you for the clear examples!
Thank you for the feedback MIke. You are very welcome.
Ab-Bolic baby! Love it! Incredible work Ab!
STEVE! Thanks for tuning in Man. It going to be fun going over this shoot on TWITCH!
Nice explanation! Thanks for sharing!
Appreciate the feedback. Thank you, Tim.
This video is phenomenal!
Thank you, George!
This is the most compelling video that has broken down the use, uniqueness and the importance of this wonderful light modifier. I had invested in the Broncolor Para 133 when an opportunity came in 2020 during a special promotion post Black Friday. While we have not been using it as much because the Broncolor Siros L we purchased with it is way front heavy. We are investing in a new power pack to optimise it soon so it will be highly appreciated if you can do more videos on the various ways this unique light tool can be put to good use.
PARABOLIC ALL THE WAY!
Thank you Atogwe. I will make sure include it in more content. It is definitely a beautiful light shaper.
Heck yeah! Para all the way! Especially how to light and what lights can and can't be used and how to set them up.
Thank you Nichols
Didn't understand alot of this but still a terrific video. Thank you!
Let me know if have any specific quesions. We have a live 2hr twitch show about this on Tuesday 7/19 at 7p on www.twitch.tv/adoramaxp
Thank you for the amazing video. Very helpful.
Thank you Alex.
Absolutely phenomenal video Ab. Amazing. Well researched, experienced, and presented. Thank you so much!
Thank you Brad. Appreciate the feedback.
More of this guy, please!
Thank you for the great Compliment Adam. -Ab
@@AbSesayPhoto thank you for the great info and presentation. Also super entertaining.
@@MrRandomatom Thank You Adam.
Great work as always, Ab!
Thank you Sri.
Very detailed.. Thank you..
Your very welcom Malith. Thank you for watching.
What fabulous video that is well balanced and full of common sense on what can be perceived as a complicated topic. How about a master class « hands on » type video on para use in studio including proper grip, position, adjustment and so on?
If I use a Para in other videos I will be sure to include some of these other topics. A Masters class could be over an hour long. LOL
Thanks Ab. I will be looking for one to use with my Speedotron heads. 😎👍🇨🇦
Speedo heads would be a good fit. just double-check that the brand you purchase has an available basket for speedotron.
Great great video!! Thank you very much Ab! Para no matter what! :)
Thank you Simonomis. You are very welcome.
Amazing .. PLZ I need to know more about last rounded mirror reflector u used .
Hi, Ramy it is made it from spare parts I had in the studio always trying to build some custom light to solve some problem. THe base of the unit is the Godox Para 133 adapter to a aluminium parabolic reflector I have.
@@AbSesayPhoto thank you so much
Just ran across this video Ab and all I can say is wow. When you went into the math it reminded me of some my college courses :) . Definitely good information and like you said there are levels of this. I'll definitely refer back to this video when I get to level and budget of using Parabolic Reflectors.
Thank you Lloyd, I really grateful that this video will help.
Excellent video a welcomed explanation of the parabolic modifier, thank you.
Thank you Gregory.
Ab! This is lighting information GOLD! Love the comparison between the godox and broncolor. THIS is the kind of content I subscribed to Adorama TH-cam for! #paranomatterwhat
Thank you Nina T. I appreciate you.
Perfect explanation 👏👏👏👏👏👏🙌👌🏻
Thank you.
This is a fantastic video. I would really love to see a follow up where you diffuse the light. I know it would destroy the purpose of the parabolic, but I think that it would be very valuable to compare the final images for "softness". It would end a lot internet debates on how much diffusion adds to the softness of light.
Hi EBL and time of me shooting the diffusors were out of stock, but i was able to get a Broncolor diffusor and it fit the GODOX perfectly to my supprise. Hopefully in future video Ill have the right opportunity to demonstrate it. Thank you for watching. -Ab
Holy f***, Ab! 🤯 Please, keep it coming!
I definitely have more coming Jack!
If you swap out the diffused white glass dome on the Profoto Pro head with a clear dome you will get even punchier light. Even smaller light source illuminating the surface rather the diffused light. Great video. Loved seeing the reflective differences between the Godox and Bron. I like the punchier look of the Bron way better personally. I have two Bron Para's coming in this week - 88 and 177.
Jared you sure know our light. An 88 and a 177. Yeah I know they have a 25% discount right now which is CRAZY! I won't say which one I'm partial to, but I like your taste my friend.
@@AbSesayPhoto yeah, 25% off plus a free grid for each one. Was too crazy good to not jump on that offer. Initially just bought the 88, but then got a nice corporate gig that basically paid for the 177 so I went ahead and just pulled the trigger. Very rare they have a deal this good.
@@jaredwolfe8438 True
Great video! I'd love to see the effect of a grid on the para 133 or similar: what does it do to fall-off and definition of the edge of the light cone? I now often use a Bron P70 gridded reflector as main light to shoot dance and like the results, but could do with more detail in the shadows while maintaining punchy light.
Thank you Filibert. The grid narrows the spread of light, and depending on the distance to your subject and the focus of the para can cause shadows. I have not fully tested the grids with them. I really love the bare light.
@@AbSesayPhoto Thanks Ab. Looking forward to your coming vids!
@@filibertkraxner305 More to come. I'm excited for next month's release.
Good class. Thanks.
Thank you for the feedback Joseph.
Gteat video, love it
Thank you David.
Outstanding video! Thank you!! #ParaNoMatterWhat
THan you Tressa. I'm glad you liked it.
ANMAZING!!!!!!
Thank you.
Does it make a difference how many light sources do you have to supply a light source to the parabolic? Maybe I should elaborate the content of my question: In a standard case, we do have one light source attached to the exact in the center axis of the parabola (parabolic reflector). Instead of one light source, if we place two, or three, or four smaller light sources (e.g., several speedlights) does it affect the final quality of the light and how it illuminates the subject? For instance, would it cause multiple shadows or would it blend them and throw one unique light source. I am asking this, because I saw in a case where four tubes (continuous light sources) were placed in a Briese umbrella. Is there a diameter factor, where this might be tolerated? Such as under/above that (X cm) it does not make any difference as the light dissipation is compensated by the light gathering potential of the reflector.
Or is there a tolerance limitation related to the number of light sources? Such as No difference after three or four or five small light sources - or two or three light sources do not provide a full symmetrical coverage within the reflector.
Or the tolerance is negligible if the distance between the small lightsources is smaller/bigger than XXX amount of proportional relationship. (For instance: for a 130 cm diameter reflector, the distance between the small light sources must be smaller than 25 cm to eliminate multiple shadows or unevenness in the light pattern).
I hope, I did not go too geeky : ) But this is a very interesting question as it might open up some other ways of usage -or a learning for not to try for getting useless results : ))
You might think of this question also as an extension of the usage of recessed vs non-recessed light sources.
I asked the same question before to several guys who did videos on parabolic reflectors. But no one did answer / even returned to my question. Maybe you do.
Thank you !
Hi Opqrst7
Some of your questions are easy, but others simply have too many variables resulting in the need for my answer to be more of an essay. Ultimately, I don’t think the essay would prove much as again there are just too many variables, and I'm a firm believer in testing. So my honest answer to your overall question is I don't know but read below for some things I can clarify
The more lights, you put in an umbrella you will get more overall output, but this may not mean the concentrated area of output is more. Meaning with a single head, the point of focus may enable you to light a square meter brighter, but many lights may light 10 square meters brighter.
The long tubes take advantage of the focus point of the umbrella but also other areas of it as well giving you the look of using multiple positions in the parabolic at the same time.
The one question I would ask back is in one sentence. What are you trying to achieve? The variables are, 1) Beam angle of the light source 2) Position of the light source to the axis of symmetry along the y axis, 3) position on the axis of the symmetry x-axis, 4) Relative size of the umbrella to the light sources used 5) Size of the umbrella relative to the size of the subject illuminated 6) Number of sides used to construct the parabolic reflector 7) Materials used to create the reflective interior of the parabolic reflector. etc
Again what are you trying to achieve, what is the end result you are looking for?
@@AbSesayPhoto Actually, my question has two purposes:
1- Sometimes it is either easier and lighter to carry two or three speedlights or portable small strobes (e.g., Godox AD 300) when you need to be on location rather than to take a big strobe (e.g., Broncolor Siros L or Profoto Pro head with a big powerpack) with you. Also, it is a matter of a power supply. You must have either a battery operated big strobe or a powerbank (heavy stuff).
2- Let's say, pop in a few 300W small lights also provide more power rather than one 500 or 800 J one big strobe on location.
In an on-location shooting scenario, taking with you 3 or 4 Godox AD300s allows you to be lighter when traveling and gives you more power. The question is: does it have a drawback (or where it might start messing up) mounting a few lights rather than a one light? (Finding a solution for mounting is not that difficult).
* So, I am looking for a solution for more efficiency and mobility when being on location.
This might be a subject to a hands-on investigation -as you also mentioned.
** Since you can individually change the power output of light sources, it may allow you to obtain interesting or creative lighting results from virtually one-light source, that is to say, one parabolic reflector (!?). Worth discovering...
@@opqrst7 I totally understand. Without an assistant or a really controlled location, I probably wouldn't bring a Para with me unless the environment was really controlled. Plus you will need a heavier duty stand, when using in the defocused position there is a lot of leverage being put on the stand. My guess is speedlights would have a similar effect to the head with the recessed front.
@@AbSesayPhoto My main concern here is that there is a multiple light sources rather than one head. The question/concern is whether a multiple-source cause multiple shadows or an uneven light spread? If there is a wiggle room, where does the tolerance start-number of light sources and/or the distance between the small light sources to act like a one-light source? I know it sounds a little geeky, but it might have practical or creative applications.
Indeed, with speedlights, it might have a front recessed result, but with small Godox AD-300 like lights it might work better-of course, if it works.
@@opqrst7 I totally understand your questions I just have not tried it. Based on what I know about parabolic reflectors all your concerns are valid, and again there are a number of variables that would affect this. It's something that needs to be tested. WIth speedlights being so focused they are not optimal for a parabolic reflector.
4:48 is it the same if you have a softbox with a honeycomb grid ?
Not the softbox light will still be scattered, but just constrained by the grid.
Great question BTW
Was the profond umbrellas not available at the time of this video? Curious why it's broncor being sampled and not the in-house brand.
Hi Alex. I'm not sure that the profounds are True (Mathematically Correct) parabolic reflectors. The term gets thrown around loosely to anything that is oval in shape these days. The broncolor has been an industry standard for years and a great expression of a Ture parabolic reflector in the photo industry. I often think about what is the best tool for teaching not for sales.
Great content, very usable for me. Where did you got the holders for the ProFoto generators on you light stands from? Please share.
They are super clamp or you can use a cartelini clamp with a J-hook that will connect to either.
Can you please make the comparison between godox and broncolor paras. Many people search for this.
Hi SIck. I touch on it here and I may do a direct comparison when I start my own TH-cam Channel. I like to keep this pretty objective here.
This is really good!
Thank You.
Hey Ab amazing video that’s still holding up! Could you do a video showing off the mirror parabolic vs the bron paras. Very much curious about the difference even though there isn’t really a practical use case for the mirror parabolic for studio work.
Would also love to hear the back story to the custom job!
Lastly is the new Godox Beamlight Max90 a parabolic modifier? I’ve been wondering if it’s pointed at a talent/scene, would it act like a fresnel of that size? The marketing just talks about throwing light at long distances. Would love actually a 3 way comparison between the bron para, the mirror para, and the Godox Beammax! :)
Hi - I love these question. Let me see what I able to produce. IM sure the godox uses a parabolic refelctor in it. Many of these have a well polished peice of medal to get very parallel rays.
Great video, and clear explanation of concepts, but one question, how much light is needed to illuminate this modifier in w/s, 250, 400, 1200? As not many people say what is required for each size, for optimum performance.
Hey Andy, this is totally based on what your desired exposure is. They are so efficient that I would say you would have no issues with a 250ws strobe. They are more efficient than a softbox or a normal umbrella of similar size if that is an easier comparison to make.
Also PLZ explain in practice the use of equation you used to determine the focal point of parabolic reflectors .
Hi Ramy, I really want to help you. Not sure how I would further explain it outside of how its explained in the video.
I'm surprised the manufacturers don't mark the focus point on parabolic reflectors.
I look forward to see what else is in store.
One little Easter Egg that I've found is that when you have your light source at the true focus point, you'll see spokes of light in your parabolic. This is presuming you have an omnidirectional bulb.
Parabolic no matter what.
Thanks for sharing Darci. We definitely have more in store!
Great video...but I saw no Profoto D2...it was a Pro 10/11?
When starts the Twitch Show about paras tonight?
I was using a Profoto Pro 08 for most of the images.
It might be worth adding that pure collimated light is also exactly what we get from the sun on a clear sky - or from any light when the subject to light distance is huge compared to the length of the subject, and the light appears small to the subject.
Normal light falls off as you get further from it according to the inverse square law, but as it does it compensates by being able to illuminate a larger subject. Pure collimated light does not fall off at all, because it isn't spreading out to cover a larger subject.
I love when we get to geek out. Direct sunlight has a beam with an angle of collimation of ~0.5 degrees. So so it is roughly parallel to plus or minus 0.25 degrees. Perfect would be 0 which to my knowledge even lasers don't achieve this also very close. I'm not sure if I have ever seen pure single source collimated light of absolute 0.
Great video. Of course, if I get a parabolic reflector I'll have to buy a new light with an exposed head! Maybe one day.
Thank You.
Useful, thanks!
Thank You.
Wow. I don't understand why Godox went with such a textured interior surface. It just makes the overall image look more flat.
It's a different look for sure. But I still like it. I use it from time to time. But the broncolor definitely has a special place in my heart.
Question: These parabolics are really freaking expensive. Would you not get the same result and control by buying a parabolic umbrella and adjust the position of the light/flash by moving the metal rod further in or out?
HI Prime, sorry for the late response. When you say "parabolic umbrella" are you talking about a normal umbrella. I think the work parabolic gets thrown around when something is deep and ovoid by not truly parabolic. You can get similar but not the same results depending on the umbrall. Some large deep silver umbrellas do have a nice quality of light, but parabolics are different.
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@Gaffer & Gear I have been watching your content for a very long time. This is such a huge compliment coming from you. Thank you.
"with the heat coming off of this thing, you'd mostly likely melt the makeup off of your model..." Now that's a helluva quote.
LOL! It was hot for sure.
Great video overall. Godox surprisingly, and disappointingly, missed the mark with their Paras. It’s either Broncolor or Parabolix!
Hey Mr G. It interesting to see what look everyone is geared towards. Im just happy there seem to be more options eveyday. I do love the Broncolor myself.
Thanks
Your Welcome.
Para No matter what!
Thank you for watching.
Wait a minute... I was suuuper hyped during the whole video, already knew thought that Broncolor would be impossible to afford for 99% of us, so then I go check Godox as I have quite a few things from them already such as a "AD400PRO" but then I realize the Parabolic 128 is a GIGANTIC 1500$USD?!? What the hell is it gold plated or what?
I guess it doesn't even come with the light tube at this price neither? Can you even use 2x speed lights sandwiched and with the "wide panel flipped", or something like the AD400 or I need something special that only fits on this? Why is it so much but when I check something a bit similar such as the (Godox QR-P120) it's not even 200$? O_o
Hi PanzerIV if you see it in person the build quality it a bit more substantial and the carry case is great just as good as the broncolor case. It does come with everything you need if you shoot with a Bowens mount light. In the video I do discuss the difference using it without a 180 degree tube. Using a speed light it will fill the box shaper differently. I never testing it with a speedlight though.
If you make money with your photography, I would consider first if you desire such a modifier for your use. If you do, then I'd consider getting such a setup because long term, it will pay itself off and you can use it as a tax write off for your business.
I personally own the Grand 120 by Hensel and I really like the light it produces. I have used however the Para 133 in workshops and it's a thing of beauty since you have the adjustable center column.
There‘s a reason why it‘s called Par-AB-olic!
LOL! Thank you Ben!
Didn't know why they worked.
Glad I could share. They create beautiful light.
Para no matter what less roll
Glad you were able to check out the video
ah..para...no matter what!
Thank you. Yes, I'll definitely be incorporating it into more videos.
So much effort, so much money, and such an insignificant result? If you put a photo taken with a parabolic umbrella next to it, and a photo taken with an ordinary silver umbrella, none of the parabolic "fans" will be able to distinguish them. I guarantee it.
This is definitely a matter of taste. I personally see the difference, but you are correct at times it can take a trained eye, but to me, there is a radical difference. I appreciate your input and feedback. I would love to know what you think of the other videos in my playlist.
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Thank You.
Para, no matter what. Also, Abbolic Reflector? lol
LOL! I have so much fun doing this. Para no matter WHAT!
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Para no matter what
Thank you.
If “real” parabolic reflectors wouldn’t be that expensive, even the Godox is very expensive, let alone Broncolor or Briese. And I’m not talking about the so called parabolic softboxes, which are just annoyingly cumbersome softboxes.
They are pricey. I remember before I could afford one I would rent them from time to time.
it's simple if you have money buy para 222, but what is the poor man's version with a speedlight, how to get 0 focus from para 222,diy ?
A Speedlightht works like a head with a built-in/recessed tube. To get similar light to the defocused position but with broader specular highlights I would point a speedlights into an umbrella and then back into two V-Flats behind you and then out to your model in front of you. To get a more focused look you can point your speedlight directly at your model and zoom the head. But ultimately the light from the 222 is very unique in my opinion.
Not even Karl Taylor explained it as well as this guy.
Thank you Carlo I really appreciate the feedback. -Ab
Fantastic as always Ab!! 👏
Thank you, Emily!