Xbox went downhill with the Xbox One's reveal. It's unfortunate that they're going down further. Especially after shamefully shutting down the guys that made Hi-Fi Rush. Their best game of last year. But hey. Thank god for PC gaming amirite?
I mean seeing as someone else pointed out your on windows so they got you there and with what they are doing with AI they may know even more about you soon lol.
xbox was so far ahead of the other two idk what the hell happened im convinced they were bored and just started making tbe worst decions every year starting with the kinect
There is one key difference between the Saturn and the Xbox One. The Saturn actually was a HUGE success in Japan for its first few years. It was the highest selling console there between 1994 and 1997, when a little indie game you may or may have not heard of tipped the scale towards Sony (something with a 7? Can't remember it right now). The Xbox One, in the other hand, was successful... Nowhere.
@@therealjaystone2344 Sega killed the Saturn with the price. If it was the other way around then the Saturn would've succeded + Saturn had better arcade ports than the PS1.
@@slapshotjack9806it flop even worse than the xbox one 😂 xbox is dead since the end of the 360 era But people dont listen to true gamers sony is making movies only Gaming is nowhere was it used to stand for pure innovation quality creativity f the casuals
I think SEGA at least seemed like they were trying to achieve something, even with the failure of the Dreamcast they continued to release incredible and unique titles for it, while Xbox doesn't seem to be trying anything other than selling the game pass...
At the least the Saturn and Dreamcast had more to offer during their lifetime than the Xbox Series. people are still interested in the Old Sega Consoles decades after they left the Console business, i don't see that happening with the Xbox after the 360.
So, so, so very true. The Saturn is probably still my all time favourite system... Dreamcast and Mega Drive very close second and third. For me those three Sega systems are the holy trinity of gaming consoles.
@@DOGEELLL True. it's funny that because gaming is a lot more mainstream than in the 90's or early 2000's means that it's harder for a company like Microsoft have a complete failure. the Xbox Series has sold 20 million consoles so far dispite making so many mistakes... i was once an Xbox Fanboy back on the 360 days, but boy do i feel bad for the fanboys of this brand nowadays.
Best ways To summarize the console wars Sony and Microsoft: by playing chess they are actually playing checkers Nintendo: by playing checkers actually started playing chess
Xbox seems comparable to Sega until you realise that even the Original XBox lost Microsoft $5 billion, so the original Xbox lost more money than the Saturn and Dreamcast combined and as a first console would've knocked any other company out of the console market for good, Microsoft just had the money to swallow the losses & price dump the console to gain market share The Saturn was $100 too expensive because Sega misjudged the direction of the market and ended up with a rushed, unwieldy hardware design, the Xbox One on the other hand was $100 too expensive because Microsoft decided they wanted to force everyone to buy a camera with every console! These two things are not the same :D Sega never tried to destroy the second hand market either! The sad fact of the matter is that Microsoft's level of incompetence has been incomparable, its a level of incompetence never seen before in the market!
@@slapshotjack9806they are fraud Only good games are xbox 360 exclusive if we judge by library of their times Xbox one had no games xbox series is somehow worse than that Sony may make garbage movie simulators but at least they try something
@@slapshotjack9806 I wouldn't go that far at all. The One and Series X have been disastrous in terms of games released. The original Xbox has it's fans, but while it had some killer games the 360 was just better up until the connect shifted their focus away from core gaming. I don't know if 7th gen is the best gaming gaming has ever been, but it's definitely the best Xbox has ever been.
Even the 100$ Saturn-PSX price discrepancy is a half-truth. The PlayStation was $299, but that's without any games or memory card, while the Saturn included a game and built-in memory for saving. If you actually wanted more use out of the PlayStation than a paper weight it'd be a much closer $375 or so.
Being a Sega and Xbox (just about... they're losing me a little bit more and more each passing day) fan just makes me sad watching this video. The amount of truth being said is... staggering.
I used to poke fun at everyone who liked Xbox when I was in school, but now I couldn't even bring myself to do that, I just feel sorry for them. God I can only imagine the looks on their faces as shit like this happened.
Been with xbox with each generation but now I took the next step up and got myself a very nice gaming pc built by a local business, I like my series x but it still hasn't had the same impact for me like how the 360 had, I mostly miss when the 360 was new when the blades were a thing and different themes would give a different picture within each blade
I agree with your points. Except comparing the Dreamcast to the Xbox Series X is pretty insulting given the fact Sega legitimately tried to offer unique exclusives and innovative hardware features. Even the Saturn had more interesting exclusives than the Xbox One despite Sega royally screwing up with that console.
the Saturn actually even outsold the N64 in Japan I think the main issue with it was that it barely existed outside Japan, most games simply didn't get released elsewhere even when their PS1 versions did (Symphony of the Night, Grandia and Lunar Silver Star come to mind)
@@Paprika_Real4 mostly the entire Yakuza series is available on Xbox. The Persona series is not really exclusive to PlayStation, there just know where their audience is. Although, it's weird that the persona series rarely shows up on Nintendo consoles other than the 3DS.
Microsoft hasn't tried to understand the video game industry, only to cash on it. Before Xbox was the thing, they were including games into Windows since 3.0. Sure, Age Of Empires would make them consider putting their money into game development, but it never came from them - only from somebody else.
@@lonecom685At least I can hear myself saying the letter A on the Ricoh 2A03 (NES,) unlike the TI-SN76489 (Master System.) Also, just like the Master System, Japanese Exclusive Audio Expansion exists, and the amount of options (and different sound types) offered by other chips were insane. Hell, the Konami VRC7 is just a cost reduced OPLL, the FM expansion chip in the Japanese Master System. It's just missing 3 out of the 9 channels, and drums mode. Also the N163 exists and it's just a Namco C30 (just without noise and it multiplexes its channels unlike every other chip, which you can hear its artifacts after making it use more than 4 channels,) meaning it's still wavetable, something Namco was god at in the 1980s.
Insane talent, glad you're blowing up One thing i could say is that the audio mixing is questionable at points, just up your mic volume or lower the music and this video will reach 10/10 status, keep it up!
Sega make a lot more than just yakuza Arcades 3rd party games ect Just greatness Sony make movies now so not really true gaming and xbox..huh you mean the trash can that have no games 😂 Xbox died with the 360 not even debatable
PlayStation is doing the same exact thing now. PlayStation library will dwindle down watch it’s already especially where a lot of exclusives are slowly coming to pc
Xbox HAD Halo but they fucked that up. Xbox HAD Gears of War but they fucked that up too. Xbox HAD Crackdown but they fucked that up too. Xbox HAD Banjo & Kazooie, but they fucked that up too.
@@xavierpeterson7139 Exclusives coming to PC isn't a big deal tbh. As a PC gamer myself, not many of us would fully make the jump to console, and not many console gamers are willing to fully jump to PC. At most, we'll do both. PC is a largely separate market.
@@Crafty_boy70 that is not prevalent to my point.whats the point of having the console if it comes to pc? It’s a very big deal. In all honesty exclusive should be exclusive not multuplatform that’s what drives people to buy your hardware
Haven't really bothered to buy a console in forever now. I haven't bothered paying attention to AAA titles and ended up just returning to monke and replaying older games again or finding older games to play. Its been harder to get into newer games. Also this video appeared on my recommended, this video is fucking great funny as hell, liked and subscribed.
PC has a ton of storefronts and hybrid portables now. You could get lost playing demos while waiting for games like antonblast to release (no console demo sadly). Mobile is a bit of a stagger, similar to VR but you'll find something eventually; I liked slice & dice and demeo, though PSVR2 is not supported well once meta quest 3 (backwards compatibility but needs accessories) and overpriced apple vision pro got released. It does have something nice maybe quarterly imo. There's also a lot of censorship going on too, which PC helps with mature storefronts, and xbox game pass (which yeah support xbox if they got something you like that way, or if they add a PC game to count in xbox library).
Yeah... i have been thinking the same myself for a while now with gaming. So glad i decided to collect for Sega Saturn and Dreamcast all those years ago. Just look at what those two "failed" systems had and the legacy they left for gamers. And there were only on the market for about two years each. Look at the games on the the Saturn and Dreamcast... and then look at what we have gotten with the PS5 and Xbox Series... modern gaming (apart from Nintendo and indies) is boring. The Japanese Saturn market is insane, the amount of quality it had that never made it out of the country. I call the Saturn, 'The Aladdin's Cave of Gaming Systems'.
@@MrVariantnintendo has more than 2 IPs lmao Their IPs destroy modern xbox and sony combined by far Sony make movies now xbox have nothing Its just sad that nintendo refuse to upgrade the specs they could easily do so
I guess this means that Halo will end up going the Sonic route. Being the one exclusive franchise the console is synonymous with, eventually going multiplatform and that becoming the norm in a decade. Can't wait for Halo 5 DX and Halo Infinite: Battle on the Switch 2
Tbh, xbox might be bad at this whole console war thing but not gonna lie they got best features. Awesome backwards compatibility, easy to publish games for indie devs, having cheaper alternative. But the biggest mistake they did was marketing. They have a strong gun called "Series S" there is lot, i mean lot of people living in 2th, 3rd world countries wanna see cheap gaming, only if they used this as marketting tactic, and boom you get lot of sales.
Steam is miles better for cheap gaming due to regional pricing making games cost as much as they should and not 3 times more due to devalued local currency. I have seen games that were nearly half-off on Switch and PS4 but still cost more than on Steam.
@@slapshotjack9806 bro majority of the world are 3th world countries. Also even some 1th world countries even have bad economy too. It's not chosen by economy, it's chosen in political perspective. Wikipedia: "Since most Third World countries were economically poor and non-industrialized, it became a stereotype to refer to developing countries as "third-world countries"."
@@slapshotjack9806 What the fuck are you talking about? Talk about ass pulls and you'll be top 10 my guy. Electricity is pretty much a non issue for 99% of people. In fact, most countries have these consoles and thriving gaming communities. It would have to be a pretty isolated country to not have anything. Get your head out of your ass. First or third world means shit, it's just political. The only difference is the percentage of parking lots and dead malls you see
Good video, and accurate. the only real difference is that Xbox is gonna attempt a 5th console, I'm pretty sure. but I doubt Xbox will continue after the 5th console failure, my prediction is that they're gonna to try to put all their baskets on that, buy all companies they can, to try to make that console sucessful, than fail, and than they'll get out of the console market and go third party.
You completely left out the HD DVD drive peripheral for the 360 in the equation when they were trying to compete with Blu-ray it was basically their equivalent of the Sega CD
I get your point with comparing the Shrek Series to consoles, however I genuinely enjoy Shrek the third and I don't think its the worst thing ever. Which ironically is another good comparison between the Shrek series and consoles
What's funny is that Sega even had this deal with Xbox where multiple Dreamcast IPs would come to the system (and the Xbox almost got Dreamcast backwards compatibility too, until the two companies couldn't agree on which of them would run the online service for DC games played on the new system).
Cant help but get an aneurysm whenever an american gives their narrow view of sega history. The saturn had tons of baller games, so did the master system. Just cuz you didnt get them, doesnt meant they didnt happen. As a matter of fact, Saturn>n64 all day any day.
What Microsoft really REALLY does not understand is with the screen recorder and leaving the games market it REALLY opens them up to be userped by Linux and apple, linux is at 2% for the games market, this is no where near good for them, once it hits 10% things will really snow ball as linux will HAVE A USER BASE and with the exasperation on the .exe extension it will be a done deal
Well it kind of was - Dreamcast was developed in conjunction with Microsoft (It even proudly declared it ran Windows CE on the casing) and when it came time to make the Xbox controller, Microsoft pretty blatantly copied the Dreamcast controller, right down to the button scheme (with added shoulder bumpers to match button count with Sony).
My biggest problem with the Xbox1 was that it required me to sign in every time I tried getting on after my brother played. And being a dumb kid, I couldn’t remember passwords all that well.
Yea my series X is basically the decoration next to my TV that almost never gets used. I think I played Morrowind a orginal xbox game on it more than anything this generation
Makes you think that if Xbox goes SEGA then who will fill the power vacuum? I love nintendo but they have their own niche, so who will be Sony's big competition next?
@@trevor_mounts_musicconsoles would be a “dead concept” if it weren’t for the fact that hundreds of millions of people still play them. And most people don’t want to spend a thousand dollars and up on a gaming pc When you can just pay 300-500 dollars to get a very similar experience.
Imagine if Valve releases a competent Steam Machine that takes the software of the Deck and puts it in a living room console form factor. I would love to see that.
Ironic how I'm trying to get a region unlocked 360, & will get a series X when it stops releasing games (assuming there's anything worthwhile across the xbox one & series X)
The only reason Id buy a Saturn these days is for 2 games... Snatcher (a Hideo Kojima game, go check it out), and Radiant Silvergun (aka the prequel to Ikaruga, which came out on Dreamcast, GC originally).
Sony also repeated it, because now it shares its games with PC players. compare PS5 with other PS. In fact, PS Vita had more exlusives (not box fan, PC player)
All these companies really forgetting that games matter the most, all whiling putting all their eggs (their dev teams) into one basket (“epic AAA blockbusters” that take forever to make, with no interesting AAs in between) This so the main killer here For reference, The Switch makes Nintendo rich despite how weak and outdated the Switch is
The whole Xbox situation reminds me of the story of Atari and how gaming almost died, I think I watched a few videos about it long time ago and I wonder if gaming industry is going to be able to survive this fallout again :)
Gaming was in its infancy when Atari collapsed and almost took the industry with it. If Xbox goes, gaming will still be around as there are plenty of alternatives. Gaming has really come a long way despite the problems that modern gaming faces today.
im fairly certain that Series X is the last console ill play, im getting older in mid 30s and the console scene as whole is a complete shitshow and is full of predatory product practices and live service games that are just not made for anyone with attention span of more than 10 seconds, there are hardly any "wow" games like i remember just 10-15 years from now which really isnt that long ago
*Can't disagree with nearly the entire video so, time for a nitpick!* Blame it on my personal bias, but I think you left out two important ingredients for Sony's success: 1) PS2 a.k.a. the DVD player that also plays video games! 2) PS3 a.k.a. the BluRay Player that also plays video games! These aren't the only reasons those consoles did so well, but they were pretty significant. Kinda like something I _think_ was addressed in the video; Sega and Nintendo being so punch drunk after the 16-bit era that Sony just had to *not* screw up to win, and then... proceeded to do a lot of things right. Less so 2D gaming, which is why I lost interest in Sony back then.
Sony didn't throw Nintendo off a cliff. Sony shat all over the place, and Nintendo stuck with making fun games. Microsoft has considered their big sales are in software, not hardware, hence, they're phasing out their Xbox hardware division, and turning xbox into a purely software thing including XBL and Gamepass on other platforms like PC, since the integration of XBL services and such to Windows 10 and 11. Sony and microsoft are running their gaming divisions like tech companies, which is a bad idea. The way Sony and Microsoft are running is: When years report losses, everybody gets a pay cut, and people start getting fired. In years of profits, the executives get the raises and people below them get fired, forcing crunch to overwork the employees. The scraps the executives didn't devour are used on hiring if any. Needless to say, this is how to get your company branded as "Black" in Japan, which is practically a death sentence to your company as nobody will want to work for a company where morale just keeps getting lower and lower. Nintendo does the opposite of Sony and Microsoft, doing things the old fashioned way, the Japanese way. When Nintendo has years of losses, it's the executives who bear the burden of responsibility for their poor decisions, and the executives, CEOs, and President take cuts to their pay! All to keep the regular employees paid well and kept in high morale! When years report profits, those profits go into the regular employee paychecks, and hiring sprees start up! The executives get their pay normalized and they effectively get the scraps of those profits, thus drastically increasing morale in the company! If a specific employee has done something so bad it failed miserably, then the individual faces something that can be considered worse than being fired! A "Window seat". Basically, in a Window Seat job, you get put aside out of the way where you just clock in at the start of the day, then clock out at the end of the day, no demotions, no chance of promotion, you're still collecting your paycheck, you're just there doing next to nothing. Gunpei Yukoi, the father of the Gameboy, was condemned to a window seat job after his project the Virtual Boy failed. He was considering a new job but he died in a car accident. Nintendo is so far the #1 richest company in Japan. Sony can't even get into the top 300 richest companies in Japan! Microsoft is... I can't say... They don't have much of a presence in Japan outside of Windows PCs. Sony lost a major anti-trust lawsuit in Japan. Sony was caught trying to lilterally force Nintendo out of the console gaming market. The Japanese government didn't take too kindly to their golden boy who didn't commit war crimes being forced out (Seriously, I looked into it! Nintendo was making Hanafuda and patriotic (Japanese) cards during the 2nd World War in Kyoto! Nintendo focused on entertaining people during the 2nd world war and didn't take part in any of the violence! Yes cards went to troops and civilians alike, but that's about it.). Sony got themselves in legal trouble, and took a massive L. And Sony established themselves to cut corners and be cheap with their hardware divisions, while charging excessive prices and pretending their gutted piece of shit was a superior product. Sony wasn't objectively superior to anyone, they just wore the fancier looking mask with the pretty garbage they found, and acted like they were cock of the walk. Their ego bit them in the ass eventually, and Sony bet on wokeness. And people are so sick of it, Sony is facing the shutdown of their hardware division, because going 3rd party is the only hope they have to keep playstation operating. The playstation hardware is garbage because of how shabbily put together it is with sub-standard cooling. The liquid metal meant to serve as a cooling measure for the PS5 is leaking into the motherboard and frying everything. Basically, Nintendo is on top as the console king. Sony and Microsoft are leaving the console games market. Microsoft because the Xbox division found more financial success in software sales. Sony is pretty much collapsing because they keep making poor decisions and shafting EVERYONG. Xbox gamepass is screwing over developers, while Sony is screwing over customers. All the while, Nintendo is keeping chill, and doing what they always did. And now the only real competition Nintendo has is in the Steam Deck, and in retro emulation machines.
Honestly it feels like karmic justice. Microsoft rode the waves of the Dreamcast's failure, made an x86 Dreamcast to get their feet wet, then made a Super Dreamcast that rocked the industry only to end up failing like Sega.
Technically sega should have no mention because sega didn't make any mistakes people just didn't like sega anymore waiting for the next sonic game and is why the dreamcast didn't sell well mostly because of this time *communities* where being created
How does Atari compare to SEGA and Microsoft? Atari became a publisher when the IPs were bought by Hasbro Interactive, who would then be bought by Infogrames. They could have easily went third party instead of desperately clinging onto the Jaguar when the PS1 was out, and I'm pretty sure they were trying to get a Jaguar 2 before the company fell apart until the IPs were bought by Hasbro Interactive Atari did a lot of mistakes too!
Atari's situation is much more complicated, after the video game crash they completely collapsed and their parent company split them into two separate companies, Atari Corporation (the hardware side), and Atari Games/Tengen (the software division), these two ended up being owned by completely different people. Atari Corporation carried on making consoles but there was no software division as that was owned by another company, hence Atari's arcade games appeared on rival systems and not on the Atari consoles. Atari Corporation had to outsource development for consoles like the 7800 and Jaguar in order to get any games at all. So you see Atari Corporation could not go third party as they didn't really make any games.
Most companies do this. Mostly coz they won’t have a long term vision, idea on how to make games but somehow incharge of people who are supposed to make games.
To be fair Sony themselves did try to extend the lifespan of the PS2 with an addon called the eyetoy, just like the kinect is was awful, the difference is that Sony stopped making them once they realised that nobody wanted it whereas Microsoft just kept making kinects with there even being an updated version of it for the Xbox one which surprisingly fixed the tracking and identification issues the original had but nobody wanted it and there were no games for it so it sold badly anyway.
The Sega/Xbox comparison makes sense, and it's definitely a good one. Unfortunately for Xbox fans, Microsoft doesn't have to care about being in the console biz anymore. They're making stupid money with their new cash cow: OpenAI. At the end of the day, Microsoft continues to be a tech juggernaut and this L means nothing to a company worth over $3 trillion. But it's sad for those of us in which Xbox at some point held a special place in their hearts. The Xbox brand might be soulless these days, but there were people involved in it and around it over the years who put their passion into it. You could see it and feel it. The destruction of that passion is what I believe people are actually disappointed over--not Xbox's self-destruction as a brand.
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I can't wait for future youtubers to name their channels after xbox consoles like Sega fans did, thus completing the cycle
“Top ten hottest girls of blinx the time sweeper. Heere weee goo!!”
I hope xbox fans font get like sega fans.
lol, yeah
Usernames like 'The Series X Gamer' and 'That Xbox One Guy'' just roll off the tongue
If I was 5 years younger right now, I would be crying over the downfall of Xbox. Now I don't give a shit because I play on PC.
Xbox went downhill with the Xbox One's reveal. It's unfortunate that they're going down further. Especially after shamefully shutting down the guys that made Hi-Fi Rush. Their best game of last year. But hey. Thank god for PC gaming amirite?
Same
As long as you're using Windows as your OS, it's all the same to Microsoft.
you should give a shit we losing it now!
I mean seeing as someone else pointed out your on windows so they got you there and with what they are doing with AI they may know even more about you soon lol.
Finally, someone else sees the vision of "the kinect was just sega cd for xbox"
Atleast the Sega CD has some good games
@BritVR2022 Kinekt had Sonic Free Riders. Ended up being the thing that held the game back so bad.
Free Riders should've released on the Wii.
xbox was so far ahead of the other two idk what the hell happened im convinced they were bored and just started making tbe worst decions every year starting with the kinect
don't insult the sega cd like that
The SEGA CD has fun games.
There is one key difference between the Saturn and the Xbox One.
The Saturn actually was a HUGE success in Japan for its first few years. It was the highest selling console there between 1994 and 1997, when a little indie game you may or may have not heard of tipped the scale towards Sony (something with a 7? Can't remember it right now).
The Xbox One, in the other hand, was successful... Nowhere.
@@slapshotjack9806 They had the opportunity with the Series X, however when they shut down Tango Gameworks all the goodwill they had was lost.
Final Fantasy 7 killed the Saturn in Japan
@@therealjaystone2344 Sega killed the Saturn with the price. If it was the other way around then the Saturn would've succeded + Saturn had better arcade ports than the PS1.
@@slapshotjack9806it flop even worse than the xbox one 😂 xbox is dead since the end of the 360 era
But people dont listen to true gamers sony is making movies only
Gaming is nowhere was it used to stand for pure innovation quality creativity f the casuals
@@therealjaystone2344I remember you! Fancy meeting you here!
I think SEGA at least seemed like they were trying to achieve something, even with the failure of the Dreamcast they continued to release incredible and unique titles for it, while Xbox doesn't seem to be trying anything other than selling the game pass...
Doesn't help that these big studios feel the need to push these consoles to their limits... and dev times into the better part of an entire decade...
This video honnestly is so well made, I'm so glad this ended up on my recommended page
Thanks, I'm glad you decided to click on it.
Same here! Right before I went to bed
@@GAGtheReflex I think the thumbnail featuring the avatar lineage of past mistakes was what caught my eye, lol
7:08 *THEY THREW THE PEOPLE WHO MADE HI FI RUSH UNDER THE BUS?! ONE OF THE BEST GAMES IN 2023?!?!*
They killed Arkane after doing nothing to stop the meteor that was Redfall, knowing damn well that company didn't specialize in looter shooters.
@Blackpapalink from what i heard redfall was forced on them.
At the least the Saturn and Dreamcast had more to offer during their lifetime than the Xbox Series.
people are still interested in the Old Sega Consoles decades after they left the Console business, i don't see that happening with the Xbox after the 360.
So, so, so very true. The Saturn is probably still my all time favourite system... Dreamcast and Mega Drive very close second and third. For me those three Sega systems are the holy trinity of gaming consoles.
Xbox died after 360 era but casuals dont listen
I cant understand how peoole still buy fifa madden cod and all the other garbage
F the damn casual
@@DOGEELLL True.
it's funny that because gaming is a lot more mainstream than in the 90's or early 2000's means that it's harder for a company like Microsoft have a complete failure.
the Xbox Series has sold 20 million consoles so far dispite making so many mistakes...
i was once an Xbox Fanboy back on the 360 days, but boy do i feel bad for the fanboys of this brand nowadays.
@@leecroft1983 Got any Saturn game reccomendations? I got an emulator set up, and I've been playing Panzer Dragoon Saga and Battle Garegga.
Best ways
To summarize the console wars
Sony and Microsoft: by playing chess they are actually playing checkers
Nintendo: by playing checkers actually started playing chess
Xbox seems comparable to Sega until you realise that even the Original XBox lost Microsoft $5 billion, so the original Xbox lost more money than the Saturn and Dreamcast combined and as a first console would've knocked any other company out of the console market for good, Microsoft just had the money to swallow the losses & price dump the console to gain market share
The Saturn was $100 too expensive because Sega misjudged the direction of the market and ended up with a rushed, unwieldy hardware design, the Xbox One on the other hand was $100 too expensive because Microsoft decided they wanted to force everyone to buy a camera with every console! These two things are not the same :D
Sega never tried to destroy the second hand market either!
The sad fact of the matter is that Microsoft's level of incompetence has been incomparable, its a level of incompetence never seen before in the market!
@@slapshotjack9806they are fraud
Only good games are xbox 360 exclusive if we judge by library of their times
Xbox one had no games xbox series is somehow worse than that
Sony may make garbage movie simulators but at least they try something
Sega is rookie mistakes while microsoft is maliciously stupid, but have so much money it doesnt matter if they fuck up
@@slapshotjack9806 I wouldn't go that far at all. The One and Series X have been disastrous in terms of games released. The original Xbox has it's fans, but while it had some killer games the 360 was just better up until the connect shifted their focus away from core gaming. I don't know if 7th gen is the best gaming gaming has ever been, but it's definitely the best Xbox has ever been.
So it’s an even worse version of the same thing
Even the 100$ Saturn-PSX price discrepancy is a half-truth. The PlayStation was $299, but that's without any games or memory card, while the Saturn included a game and built-in memory for saving. If you actually wanted more use out of the PlayStation than a paper weight it'd be a much closer $375 or so.
That shoto and midoriya kinky kiss was for sure surprising for sure.
Being a Sega and Xbox (just about... they're losing me a little bit more and more each passing day) fan just makes me sad watching this video. The amount of truth being said is... staggering.
I used to poke fun at everyone who liked Xbox when I was in school, but now I couldn't even bring myself to do that, I just feel sorry for them. God I can only imagine the looks on their faces as shit like this happened.
Been with xbox with each generation but now I took the next step up and got myself a very nice gaming pc built by a local business, I like my series x but it still hasn't had the same impact for me like how the 360 had, I mostly miss when the 360 was new when the blades were a thing and different themes would give a different picture within each blade
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I agree with your points. Except comparing the Dreamcast to the Xbox Series X is pretty insulting given the fact Sega legitimately tried to offer unique exclusives and innovative hardware features. Even the Saturn had more interesting exclusives than the Xbox One despite Sega royally screwing up with that console.
the Saturn actually even outsold the N64 in Japan
I think the main issue with it was that it barely existed outside Japan, most games simply didn't get released elsewhere even when their PS1 versions did (Symphony of the Night, Grandia and Lunar Silver Star come to mind)
the only reason the dreamcast failed was the ps2's ability to play dvds and the fact that sega spent wayyy too much budget on shenmue
I want to see the alternative reality where Sega teams up with Sony.
They kinda did, almost every game by Atlus (a SEGA owned studio) was PlayStation exclusive from the ps1 era to the beginning of ps5.
@@Paprika_Real4 mostly the entire Yakuza series is available on Xbox. The Persona series is not really exclusive to PlayStation, there just know where their audience is. Although, it's weird that the persona series rarely shows up on Nintendo consoles other than the 3DS.
wth, only 43 subs?
Dude, this video is good, and you're spitting facts
Yo how do you only have 23 subs, this vid is pretty decently well made.
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This is some solid editing and commentary, i feel like subscribing rn, im looking forward for the next video!
Microsoft hasn't tried to understand the video game industry, only to cash on it.
Before Xbox was the thing, they were including games into Windows since 3.0. Sure, Age Of Empires would make them consider putting their money into game development, but it never came from them - only from somebody else.
And they killed the studio that made Age Of Empires.
Xbox wont go the way of Sega.
It'll go the way of Zune.
Remember Zune?
Remember Windows Phone?
God, maybe Microsoft just shouldn't do hardware, I can argue that they're software is messy, but they're hardware always ends in failure.
Oh yeah, that thing from Guardians of the Galaxy. I wonder why Rocket didn't use an iPod
No should I?
@@Neoniq41 that's exactly the point
Love the Valua theme from Skies of Arcadia in the background.
Done in a style very much like internet historian... very good and nostalgic
The difference between Sega and Microsoft is that Microsoft has so much money. That it doesn't need to change their ways.
Master System was most definitely NOT beaten by the NES in every single way. Just in the only way it counts.
Good games and loads of them.
And also in sound! Without that Yamaha peripheral at least...
@@lonecom685At least I can hear myself saying the letter A on the Ricoh 2A03 (NES,) unlike the TI-SN76489 (Master System.) Also, just like the Master System, Japanese Exclusive Audio Expansion exists, and the amount of options (and different sound types) offered by other chips were insane. Hell, the Konami VRC7 is just a cost reduced OPLL, the FM expansion chip in the Japanese Master System. It's just missing 3 out of the 9 channels, and drums mode. Also the N163 exists and it's just a Namco C30 (just without noise and it multiplexes its channels unlike every other chip, which you can hear its artifacts after making it use more than 4 channels,) meaning it's still wavetable, something Namco was god at in the 1980s.
At least the Master System had Brazil
The NES also had a lot more _bad_ games.
I don't think I ever laughed so damn hard, yet was so thoroughly educated at the same time🤣🤣🤣
The Wii played a role in the making of the Kinetic.
As with Sega, at least they had some character.
Oh yeah, I'm so happy for my old nintendo stuff and ps2/4.
Insane talent, glad you're blowing up
One thing i could say is that the audio mixing is questionable at points, just up your mic volume or lower the music and this video will reach 10/10 status, keep it up!
Sega has yakuza, Sony has PlayStation (PlayStation has a library), Xbox has Bethesda...
Sega make a lot more than just yakuza
Arcades 3rd party games ect
Just greatness
Sony make movies now so not really true gaming and xbox..huh you mean the trash can that have no games 😂
Xbox died with the 360 not even debatable
PlayStation is doing the same exact thing now. PlayStation library will dwindle down watch it’s already especially where a lot of exclusives are slowly coming to pc
Xbox HAD Halo but they fucked that up.
Xbox HAD Gears of War but they fucked that up too.
Xbox HAD Crackdown but they fucked that up too.
Xbox HAD Banjo & Kazooie, but they fucked that up too.
@@xavierpeterson7139 Exclusives coming to PC isn't a big deal tbh. As a PC gamer myself, not many of us would fully make the jump to console, and not many console gamers are willing to fully jump to PC. At most, we'll do both. PC is a largely separate market.
@@Crafty_boy70 that is not prevalent to my point.whats the point of having the console if it comes to pc? It’s a very big deal. In all honesty exclusive should be exclusive not multuplatform that’s what drives people to buy your hardware
Pretty good job on the minimalist editing and focus on having charisma.
I subscribed for this video and i hope i stay for another one, this is really good.
Forget the games industry, that opening quote applies to humanity in general
Haven't really bothered to buy a console in forever now. I haven't bothered paying attention to AAA titles and ended up just returning to monke and replaying older games again or finding older games to play. Its been harder to get into newer games. Also this video appeared on my recommended, this video is fucking great funny as hell, liked and subscribed.
May I recommend Skies of Arcadia(Legends), emulate it if you can, of course.
PC has a ton of storefronts and hybrid portables now. You could get lost playing demos while waiting for games like antonblast to release (no console demo sadly). Mobile is a bit of a stagger, similar to VR but you'll find something eventually; I liked slice & dice and demeo, though PSVR2 is not supported well once meta quest 3 (backwards compatibility but needs accessories) and overpriced apple vision pro got released. It does have something nice maybe quarterly imo.
There's also a lot of censorship going on too, which PC helps with mature storefronts, and xbox game pass (which yeah support xbox if they got something you like that way, or if they add a PC game to count in xbox library).
Yeah... i have been thinking the same myself for a while now with gaming. So glad i decided to collect for Sega Saturn and Dreamcast all those years ago. Just look at what those two "failed" systems had and the legacy they left for gamers. And there were only on the market for about two years each. Look at the games on the the Saturn and Dreamcast... and then look at what we have gotten with the PS5 and Xbox Series... modern gaming (apart from Nintendo and indies) is boring. The Japanese Saturn market is insane, the amount of quality it had that never made it out of the country. I call the Saturn, 'The Aladdin's Cave of Gaming Systems'.
@leecroft7311 indies yes lol nintendo more mario and buggy pokemon 😄
@@MrVariantnintendo has more than 2 IPs lmao
Their IPs destroy modern xbox and sony combined by far
Sony make movies now xbox have nothing
Its just sad that nintendo refuse to upgrade the specs they could easily do so
Although, unlike SEGA, I don’t see a come back.
I guess this means that Halo will end up going the Sonic route. Being the one exclusive franchise the console is synonymous with, eventually going multiplatform and that becoming the norm in a decade. Can't wait for Halo 5 DX and Halo Infinite: Battle on the Switch 2
Tbh, xbox might be bad at this whole console war thing but not gonna lie they got best features. Awesome backwards compatibility, easy to publish games for indie devs, having cheaper alternative.
But the biggest mistake they did was marketing.
They have a strong gun called "Series S" there is lot, i mean lot of people living in 2th, 3rd world countries wanna see cheap gaming, only if they used this as marketting tactic, and boom you get lot of sales.
Steam is miles better for cheap gaming due to regional pricing making games cost as much as they should and not 3 times more due to devalued local currency.
I have seen games that were nearly half-off on Switch and PS4 but still cost more than on Steam.
@@ilikevideogames4331 but the pc itself is the expensive part
@@slapshotjack9806 bro majority of the world are 3th world countries. Also even some 1th world countries even have bad economy too. It's not chosen by economy, it's chosen in political perspective.
Wikipedia:
"Since most Third World countries were economically poor and non-industrialized, it became a stereotype to refer to developing countries as "third-world countries"."
@@slapshotjack9806 bro, it not just from Wikipedia, it's known fact. It means political side of the country while Cold War.
@@slapshotjack9806 What the fuck are you talking about? Talk about ass pulls and you'll be top 10 my guy. Electricity is pretty much a non issue for 99% of people. In fact, most countries have these consoles and thriving gaming communities. It would have to be a pretty isolated country to not have anything. Get your head out of your ass. First or third world means shit, it's just political. The only difference is the percentage of parking lots and dead malls you see
This reminds me of game theory in 2014-2017
Good video, and accurate. the only real difference is that Xbox is gonna attempt a 5th console, I'm pretty sure. but I doubt Xbox will continue after the 5th console failure, my prediction is that they're gonna to try to put all their baskets on that, buy all companies they can, to try to make that console sucessful, than fail, and than they'll get out of the console market and go third party.
They're closing studios right now and putting games out on other systems
0:36 Saints Row?
aww good video though, seemslike I'm your 222nd Subscriber xD
You completely left out the HD DVD drive peripheral for the 360 in the equation when they were trying to compete with Blu-ray it was basically their equivalent of the Sega CD
I get your point with comparing the Shrek Series to consoles, however I genuinely enjoy Shrek the third and I don't think its the worst thing ever. Which ironically is another good comparison between the Shrek series and consoles
good god this is a banger video how do you have under 200 subs
At least the Dreamcast HAD A MODEM, that was wayyy ahead of it's time. The Xbox Series X WENT BACK IN TIME in terms of "new features".
What's funny is that Sega even had this deal with Xbox where multiple Dreamcast IPs would come to the system (and the Xbox almost got Dreamcast backwards compatibility too, until the two companies couldn't agree on which of them would run the online service for DC games played on the new system).
7:10 "Oh hey, it's Trunks! :D"
Cant help but get an aneurysm whenever an american gives their narrow view of sega history. The saturn had tons of baller games, so did the master system. Just cuz you didnt get them, doesnt meant they didnt happen. As a matter of fact, Saturn>n64 all day any day.
What does being American have to do with anything?
@@P_D-px6iv The Master System and Saturn had the least success in America, so Americans tend to overlook much of their library.
See? At the end of the Day, Microsoft is going to end up having an another SEGA-like situation in the future if they didn't act very quickly.
@@slapshotjack9806proof? im genuinely curious
@@slapshotjack9806(extremely loud incorrect buzzer)
@@slapshotjack9806 It's just the idiots who show themselves. PlayStation fans are everywhere, they don't always make it obvious.
Can you prove this?@@slapshotjack9806
@@slapshotjack9806 Also, most people don't even put their favorite platform on display. Shut up, fanboy
What Microsoft really REALLY does not understand is with the screen recorder and leaving the games market it REALLY opens them up to be userped by Linux and apple, linux is at 2% for the games market, this is no where near good for them, once it hits 10% things will really snow ball as linux will HAVE A USER BASE and with the exasperation on the .exe extension it will be a done deal
Great video man
It's kinda scary in retrospect how even back in the day people called the Xbox the successor to the Sega systems.
Well it kind of was - Dreamcast was developed in conjunction with Microsoft (It even proudly declared it ran Windows CE on the casing) and when it came time to make the Xbox controller, Microsoft pretty blatantly copied the Dreamcast controller, right down to the button scheme (with added shoulder bumpers to match button count with Sony).
You sir, have greatness ahead of you. Keep it up.
Watching this after decided to retire my 10 year old Xbox One and kept it as a rare collectors item.
What will happen to Rareware? Develop for Nintendo?
Only time will tell, they can even end up being an indie company like Toys For Bob, but let's hope for the best
My biggest problem with the Xbox1 was that it required me to sign in every time I tried getting on after my brother played. And being a dumb kid, I couldn’t remember passwords all that well.
Yea my series X is basically the decoration next to my TV that almost never gets used. I think I played Morrowind a orginal xbox game on it more than anything this generation
This video is great
Thanks dude.
great video
Difference is people actually like the dreamcast and it has more games in its like 2 years of existing
Yeah, I very much doubt the Xbox Series will have a fan following and new games getting made for it in 20 years.
Makes you think that if Xbox goes SEGA then who will fill the power vacuum? I love nintendo but they have their own niche, so who will be Sony's big competition next?
Consoles as a concept are kind of dead - other than the switch they are just less good PCs
Maybe Valve or Epic?
Valve probably will release a steam machine 2 soon enough, that will catapult into a increase of living room pcs
@@trevor_mounts_musicconsoles would be a “dead concept” if it weren’t for the fact that hundreds of millions of people still play them. And most people don’t want to spend a thousand dollars and up on a gaming pc When you can just pay 300-500 dollars to get a very similar experience.
Imagine if Valve releases a competent Steam Machine that takes the software of the Deck and puts it in a living room console form factor. I would love to see that.
Ironic how I'm trying to get a region unlocked 360, & will get a series X when it stops releasing games (assuming there's anything worthwhile across the xbox one & series X)
The only reason Id buy a Saturn these days is for 2 games... Snatcher (a Hideo Kojima game, go check it out), and Radiant Silvergun (aka the prequel to Ikaruga, which came out on Dreamcast, GC originally).
There was a tuxedo cat in this video
give that one all of the scritches.
Sony also repeated it, because now it shares its games with PC players. compare PS5 with other PS. In fact, PS Vita had more exlusives (not box fan, PC player)
As a Playstation fan, you're completely right, I haven't bought a PS5, and probably won't.
I just doubled down on my PC/Steam Deck.
All these companies really forgetting that games matter the most, all whiling putting all their eggs (their dev teams) into one basket (“epic AAA blockbusters” that take forever to make, with no interesting AAs in between)
This so the main killer here
For reference, The Switch makes Nintendo rich despite how weak and outdated the Switch is
I might not agree with everything but majority of it I do. And ima Microsoft fan
I want Microsoft to do better to, thank you for being respectable.
I had the Sega 32X and when it worked it was cool but it had issues.... I think Doom was the only game that ran smooth..🤣
How do you have under 200 subs? Great content!
The whole Xbox situation reminds me of the story of Atari and how gaming almost died, I think I watched a few videos about it long time ago and I wonder if gaming industry is going to be able to survive this fallout again :)
Gaming was in its infancy when Atari collapsed and almost took the industry with it. If Xbox goes, gaming will still be around as there are plenty of alternatives. Gaming has really come a long way despite the problems that modern gaming faces today.
What is the music that plays between 0:00 and 0:34? It sounds so familiar but I can't find it.
"He was a Sega boy...she was a Nintendo girl...he was not good enough for her."😄
Also, "what do they do to keep the ball rolling...blind themselves."😄
Good thing I bought the Xbox One pt.2 at a 50% discount. Might be done with games for good and sticking with what I got.
Youre not wrong.
Well, hes not right either. Hes not wrong nor right.
@@talison461
he's definitely more right than wrong..
Ahem you're not youre
Btw, typo on "short sided" in the slide that you compare the saturn to the x bone.
im fairly certain that Series X is the last console ill play, im getting older in mid 30s and the console scene as whole is a complete shitshow and is full of predatory product practices and live service games that are just not made for anyone with attention span of more than 10 seconds, there are hardly any "wow" games like i remember just 10-15 years from now which really isnt that long ago
*Can't disagree with nearly the entire video so, time for a nitpick!*
Blame it on my personal bias, but I think you left out two important ingredients for Sony's success:
1) PS2 a.k.a. the DVD player that also plays video games!
2) PS3 a.k.a. the BluRay Player that also plays video games!
These aren't the only reasons those consoles did so well, but they were pretty significant. Kinda like something I _think_ was addressed in the video; Sega and Nintendo being so punch drunk after the 16-bit era that Sony just had to *not* screw up to win, and then... proceeded to do a lot of things right. Less so 2D gaming, which is why I lost interest in Sony back then.
I'm going to steal that "call my shrink im losing it" clip
top meme material
I feel like the music is a bit too loud or your voice is too low :d
Sony didn't throw Nintendo off a cliff. Sony shat all over the place, and Nintendo stuck with making fun games. Microsoft has considered their big sales are in software, not hardware, hence, they're phasing out their Xbox hardware division, and turning xbox into a purely software thing including XBL and Gamepass on other platforms like PC, since the integration of XBL services and such to Windows 10 and 11.
Sony and microsoft are running their gaming divisions like tech companies, which is a bad idea.
The way Sony and Microsoft are running is: When years report losses, everybody gets a pay cut, and people start getting fired. In years of profits, the executives get the raises and people below them get fired, forcing crunch to overwork the employees. The scraps the executives didn't devour are used on hiring if any. Needless to say, this is how to get your company branded as "Black" in Japan, which is practically a death sentence to your company as nobody will want to work for a company where morale just keeps getting lower and lower.
Nintendo does the opposite of Sony and Microsoft, doing things the old fashioned way, the Japanese way.
When Nintendo has years of losses, it's the executives who bear the burden of responsibility for their poor decisions, and the executives, CEOs, and President take cuts to their pay! All to keep the regular employees paid well and kept in high morale! When years report profits, those profits go into the regular employee paychecks, and hiring sprees start up! The executives get their pay normalized and they effectively get the scraps of those profits, thus drastically increasing morale in the company! If a specific employee has done something so bad it failed miserably, then the individual faces something that can be considered worse than being fired! A "Window seat". Basically, in a Window Seat job, you get put aside out of the way where you just clock in at the start of the day, then clock out at the end of the day, no demotions, no chance of promotion, you're still collecting your paycheck, you're just there doing next to nothing.
Gunpei Yukoi, the father of the Gameboy, was condemned to a window seat job after his project the Virtual Boy failed. He was considering a new job but he died in a car accident.
Nintendo is so far the #1 richest company in Japan.
Sony can't even get into the top 300 richest companies in Japan!
Microsoft is... I can't say... They don't have much of a presence in Japan outside of Windows PCs.
Sony lost a major anti-trust lawsuit in Japan. Sony was caught trying to lilterally force Nintendo out of the console gaming market. The Japanese government didn't take too kindly to their golden boy who didn't commit war crimes being forced out (Seriously, I looked into it! Nintendo was making Hanafuda and patriotic (Japanese) cards during the 2nd World War in Kyoto! Nintendo focused on entertaining people during the 2nd world war and didn't take part in any of the violence! Yes cards went to troops and civilians alike, but that's about it.). Sony got themselves in legal trouble, and took a massive L. And Sony established themselves to cut corners and be cheap with their hardware divisions, while charging excessive prices and pretending their gutted piece of shit was a superior product.
Sony wasn't objectively superior to anyone, they just wore the fancier looking mask with the pretty garbage they found, and acted like they were cock of the walk. Their ego bit them in the ass eventually, and Sony bet on wokeness. And people are so sick of it, Sony is facing the shutdown of their hardware division, because going 3rd party is the only hope they have to keep playstation operating. The playstation hardware is garbage because of how shabbily put together it is with sub-standard cooling. The liquid metal meant to serve as a cooling measure for the PS5 is leaking into the motherboard and frying everything.
Basically, Nintendo is on top as the console king.
Sony and Microsoft are leaving the console games market. Microsoft because the Xbox division found more financial success in software sales. Sony is pretty much collapsing because they keep making poor decisions and shafting EVERYONG. Xbox gamepass is screwing over developers, while Sony is screwing over customers.
All the while, Nintendo is keeping chill, and doing what they always did. And now the only real competition Nintendo has is in the Steam Deck, and in retro emulation machines.
I did like and wanted the 32X. It let me play doom for the first time as a kid. :)
Honestly it feels like karmic justice. Microsoft rode the waves of the Dreamcast's failure, made an x86 Dreamcast to get their feet wet, then made a Super Dreamcast that rocked the industry only to end up failing like Sega.
And Lessbox fans will still claim their winning. 😅
Calling Bethesda games both burnt and undercooked at the same time is a solid description. Or a sawdust Hot Pocket.
Technically sega should have no mention because sega didn't make any mistakes people just didn't like sega anymore waiting for the next sonic game and is why the dreamcast didn't sell well mostly because of this time *communities* where being created
You’re mad funny😂
Thanks dude.
And it all ends with a 380mm orbital barrage....
I do like that the series X has some backwards compatibility. Since most companies are too lazy or greedy to port their games.
My last Xbox was the one x. I can’t see me ever replacing it
"Let's all laugh at an industry that never learns anything, Tee Hee Hee...."
How does Atari compare to SEGA and Microsoft?
Atari became a publisher when the IPs were bought by Hasbro Interactive, who would then be bought by Infogrames. They could have easily went third party instead of desperately clinging onto the Jaguar when the PS1 was out, and I'm pretty sure they were trying to get a Jaguar 2 before the company fell apart until the IPs were bought by Hasbro Interactive
Atari did a lot of mistakes too!
Atari's situation is much more complicated, after the video game crash they completely collapsed and their parent company split them into two separate companies, Atari Corporation (the hardware side), and Atari Games/Tengen (the software division), these two ended up being owned by completely different people.
Atari Corporation carried on making consoles but there was no software division as that was owned by another company, hence Atari's arcade games appeared on rival systems and not on the Atari consoles. Atari Corporation had to outsource development for consoles like the 7800 and Jaguar in order to get any games at all.
So you see Atari Corporation could not go third party as they didn't really make any games.
Idk if I'd consider a mobile developer and the guys that made redfall as top talent within Bethesda.
Most companies do this. Mostly coz they won’t have a long term vision, idea on how to make games but somehow incharge of people who are supposed to make games.
The root of xbox's problem : no good 1st party titles
Also the french kiss scene caught me off guard ffs
You got a phone ? That is where it is all going.
Didn't they say this like 10 years ago?
To be fair Sony themselves did try to extend the lifespan of the PS2 with an addon called the eyetoy, just like the kinect is was awful, the difference is that Sony stopped making them once they realised that nobody wanted it whereas Microsoft just kept making kinects with there even being an updated version of it for the Xbox one which surprisingly fixed the tracking and identification issues the original had but nobody wanted it and there were no games for it so it sold badly anyway.
The Sega/Xbox comparison makes sense, and it's definitely a good one.
Unfortunately for Xbox fans, Microsoft doesn't have to care about being in the console biz anymore. They're making stupid money with their new cash cow: OpenAI. At the end of the day, Microsoft continues to be a tech juggernaut and this L means nothing to a company worth over $3 trillion.
But it's sad for those of us in which Xbox at some point held a special place in their hearts. The Xbox brand might be soulless these days, but there were people involved in it and around it over the years who put their passion into it. You could see it and feel it.
The destruction of that passion is what I believe people are actually disappointed over--not Xbox's self-destruction as a brand.
Yup. I switched to linux over 2 years ago
The last thing we need is a monopoly on consoles
The video audio didn't work for me
the saturn had more games than n64, theres over a thousand
its just most never left japan
Xbox 360 was the peak of xbox. The only games i enjoy now are from Nintendo. If Nintendo ever flatlines i would just stop gaming forever