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The roots like to be outside and the vine likes to be inside. You could sink that pipe into the ground at a 45 degree angle, so that the roots will then be outside ..:) Just a thought..:)
Me too but love wine more hehe so I'll do a test on a batch of vino and decide which one stays, the other I'll try and graft with a seedless variety for eating
Thanks for the Video clip! Sorry for chiming in, I would appreciate your opinion. Have you thought about - Lammywalness Green Grapes Guide (Have a quick look on google cant remember the place now)? It is a good exclusive product for learning how to become a successful grape grower without the headache. Ive heard some unbelievable things about it and my friend Sam at very last got cool results with it.
I've got a black grape vines that needs to go in my front greenhouse, its been sitting there in a pot all over winter, I've been saying i will put it in for the last 6 weeks, After seeing you do yours, I think its time to get it in lol
A good method of planting Brian, I did mine inside the greenhouse adapting a similar way using a tall pot with the bottom cut off.This is because the rest of the greenhouse border has tomatoes , cucumbers etc during the year and I didn't want the vine roots taking over the greenhouse. i did however dig a connecting hole outside and added some cow manure, to help the water retention below ground level. Mine is a year older than yours so it will be interesting to see how they progress. How many rods do you plan on having on each vine? All the best...................Nigel 😀
+MuddyBootz To be honest Nigel this is the first time i have ever grown a vine so im doing lots of reading up on it... its not going to be a straight forward process to train these buggers thats for sure - any tips or advice warmly welcomed :-)
Great technique for controlling the roots Brian. Would you not consider planting cutting from a grapevine and planting the outside. They would be great for shelter too. Thanks for sharing
Hi Brian I would strongly recommend that you water the vine while it is establishing. The most important thing when establishing vines is to get them off to a good start. Although they are very tough once established, they are still vulnerable to setbacks when young. If they do not get a good start they may never really thrive. (I know this from experience, working in a vineyard). By the way, if the grapes are not to your taste, they are easily grafted to another variety. Cheers.
Thanks for the watering tip, I have given them a little water but to be honest the pipe seems to be sucking up the moisture from the subsoil which where I am is permanently wet so that's a good thing for me 😊 I'm defo going to look at grafting though if the varieties don't suit 👍👍👍
+Brian Bastable We have deep infertile sand here, so watering is a big issue. Of course if you have moist soil watering is not so critical. As far as varieties are concerned, I would recommend that you find varieties you like (several if you wish) and graft over once your vines have established. You can graft several varieties to the one vine, although I would generally recommend only two.There's not much point spending several years establishing a variety you don't like. Pinot blanc is a wine grape. It is susceptible to fungal disease and has small berries (i.e. not practical for eating). Personally, I consider Muscat and Italia the ultimate white varieties - beautifully aromatic and fragrant. Of course the other alternative is to get a few (free) cuttings of known varieties and stick them in the ground (about 50cm, ripe, pencil thick cuttings, leaving two buds clear of the ground). Grapes are very easy to propagate. By the way, grape seeds are about the most nutritional seeds in the botanical world - absolutely full of beneficial compounds.Just eat them! They wont hurt you. Cheers.
I transferred may plants from inside to a small greenhouse I have outside so then once they get used to that its out to the garden and since they are in peat pots I can just transplant with no problem.
My vine at home is also outside and produces lovely black grapes, makes excellent wine but no good for eating, I'll give these a go over the next few years and see how they fair
I've been wanting to do this for yonks but i've held for fear of botrytis setting in and makes the grapes all manky. I had it this winter and it trashed half the plug plants i had over wintering. Scrubbed the tunnel inside and out now but i've still got the rage... once bitten and all that. What d'you reckon... shall i take a punt? Hayloft have got a mega groupon deal at the moment - 9 plants (3 of 3 types) for 15 squid delivered.
Hi Brian, Really good tips on growing wine shade is especially useful in summer. This is the first time I see this method of roots forcing. Will you fertilize it in any way going forward ?
i have some concerns about them being inside a high humid place !! i want as much air flow on my grapes as possible , i do not want to have to spray fungicide on them . as for shade why not plant them in the out side . it will be interesting to see how they hold up in a humid environment and elevated heat , i start lots of grape vines every year and they are so easy to propagate, unless they have bin grafted why are they so expensive there ??
Hi John I have no idea why they are so expensive but I thought that I would try these two out, ventilation is excellent in my poly as I have doors each end, also the the Woodchip mulch is brilliant at keeping the air dry and moisture trapped in the soil below... It will be a good test at the least
I don't see any real difference to be honest Andy, I'm sure someone will suggest a reason for planting outside but I can only think of the roots issue but hopefully this pipe will fix that
Interesting video but I found it kind of funny that you tried to blank of your face in this one when you’re moving around the blank out ball didn’t follow you in our spots and then you advertise other videos, showing your picture of your face with no problem at all so I found it interesting yet funny
Not really, I have seen many vines grown in greenhouses & Polytunnels and all seem to well, I have a door each end so have good ventilation and the pollinators have free access, the Woodchip mulch works really well at keeping moisture in the soil so the actual tunnel stays really quite dry
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Best of luck with the vine Brian. Nice trick with the pipe. All the best.
The roots like to be outside and the vine likes to be inside. You could sink that pipe into the ground at a 45 degree angle, so that the roots will then be outside ..:) Just a thought..:)
I love growing grapes ! I have a few in my garden.
Me too but love wine more hehe so I'll do a test on a batch of vino and decide which one stays, the other I'll try and graft with a seedless variety for eating
I am a brewer as well. When I get surplus they make their way into wine too :)
let me know how it goes!
+Alberta Urban Garden Simple Organic and Sustainable Hehe will do for sure!!
Thanks for the Video clip! Sorry for chiming in, I would appreciate your opinion. Have you thought about - Lammywalness Green Grapes Guide (Have a quick look on google cant remember the place now)? It is a good exclusive product for learning how to become a successful grape grower without the headache. Ive heard some unbelievable things about it and my friend Sam at very last got cool results with it.
I've got a black grape vines that needs to go in my front greenhouse, its been sitting there in a pot all over winter, I've been saying i will put it in for the last 6 weeks, After seeing you do yours, I think its time to get it in lol
+Mark Davidson Go for it Mark....Let thee vine thrive!!!!
A good method of planting Brian, I did mine inside the greenhouse adapting a similar way using a tall pot with the bottom cut off.This is because the rest of the greenhouse border has tomatoes , cucumbers etc during the year and I didn't want the vine roots taking over the greenhouse. i did however dig a connecting hole outside and added some cow manure, to help the water retention below ground level. Mine is a year older than yours so it will be interesting to see how they progress. How many rods do you plan on having on each vine?
All the best...................Nigel 😀
+MuddyBootz To be honest Nigel this is the first time i have ever grown a vine so im doing lots of reading up on it... its not going to be a straight forward process to train these buggers thats for sure - any tips or advice warmly welcomed :-)
whats that fungi called please and where do i get it from? thanks
any update on this? as i brought the same from the same supplier and i think 2 of my batches where bad.
Great technique for controlling the roots Brian. Would you not consider planting cutting from a grapevine and planting the outside. They would be great for shelter too. Thanks for sharing
On my allotment Patrick I have not yet built a trellis to accommodate a vine... A future project no doubt hehe
Hi Brian I would strongly recommend that you water the vine while it is establishing. The most important thing when establishing vines is to get them off to a good start. Although they are very tough once established, they are still vulnerable to setbacks when young. If they do not get a good start they may never really thrive. (I know this from experience, working in a vineyard). By the way, if the grapes are not to your taste, they are easily grafted to another variety. Cheers.
Thanks for the watering tip, I have given them a little water but to be honest the pipe seems to be sucking up the moisture from the subsoil which where I am is permanently wet so that's a good thing for me 😊 I'm defo going to look at grafting though if the varieties don't suit 👍👍👍
+Brian Bastable We have deep infertile sand here, so watering is a big issue. Of course if you have moist soil watering is not so critical. As far as varieties are concerned, I would recommend that you find varieties you like (several if you wish) and graft over once your vines have established. You can graft several varieties to the one vine, although I would generally recommend only two.There's not much point spending several years establishing a variety you don't like. Pinot blanc is a wine grape. It is susceptible to fungal disease and has small berries (i.e. not practical for eating). Personally, I consider Muscat and Italia the ultimate white varieties - beautifully aromatic and fragrant. Of course the other alternative is to get a few (free) cuttings of known varieties and stick them in the ground (about 50cm, ripe, pencil thick cuttings, leaving two buds clear of the ground). Grapes are very easy to propagate. By the way, grape seeds are about the most nutritional seeds in the botanical world - absolutely full of beneficial compounds.Just eat them! They wont hurt you. Cheers.
+credenza1 Wow thats a lot of excellent info Credenza, Thanks for sharing and i will have a go a grafting once established as you say :-)
I transferred may plants from inside to a small greenhouse I have outside so then once they get used to that its out to the garden and since they are in peat pots I can just transplant with no problem.
My vine at home is also outside and produces lovely black grapes, makes excellent wine but no good for eating, I'll give these a go over the next few years and see how they fair
I've been wanting to do this for yonks but i've held for fear of botrytis setting in and makes the grapes all manky. I had it this winter and it trashed half the plug plants i had over wintering. Scrubbed the tunnel inside and out now but i've still got the rage... once bitten and all that. What d'you reckon... shall i take a punt? Hayloft have got a mega groupon deal at the moment - 9 plants (3 of 3 types) for 15 squid delivered.
+James Powell go for it.... do your research though, vines are not straight forward
Got my first grape vines. ☺
Check out the new espalier grapes vines in the fruit playlist
and well done getting vines
Hi Brian, Really good tips on growing wine shade is especially useful in summer. This is the first time I see this method of roots forcing. Will you fertilize it in any way going forward ?
+Rafs Kitchen Garden No Raf, what its got is all its getting, ill give it nothing else, the shade will come in handy i hope
i have some concerns about them being inside a high humid place !! i want as much air flow on my grapes as possible , i do not want to have to spray fungicide on them . as for shade why not plant them in the out side . it will be interesting to see how they hold up in a humid environment and elevated heat , i start lots of grape vines every year and they are so easy to propagate, unless they have bin grafted why are they so expensive there ??
Hi John I have no idea why they are so expensive but I thought that I would try these two out, ventilation is excellent in my poly as I have doors each end, also the the Woodchip mulch is brilliant at keeping the air dry and moisture trapped in the soil below... It will be a good test at the least
I'm a little confused, I thought you had to plant outside then train the vine into the Tunnel. Andy
I don't see any real difference to be honest Andy, I'm sure someone will suggest a reason for planting outside but I can only think of the roots issue but hopefully this pipe will fix that
+Brian Bastable Thank You Cheers
I have done this with a 5 gallon bucket with the bottom cut off to prevent such things as mint plants from taking over the world.
Hi John, this pipe is really just to ensure that the top planting levels remain vine root free, I hope this works!!
seeded ones are nicer and juicier than the seedless ones anyway ;)
Interesting video but I found it kind of funny that you tried to blank of your face in this one when you’re moving around the blank out ball didn’t follow you in our spots and then you advertise other videos, showing your picture of your face with no problem at all so I found it interesting yet funny
Are you worried about your grapes getting pollinated?
Not really, I have seen many vines grown in greenhouses & Polytunnels and all seem to well, I have a door each end so have good ventilation and the pollinators have free access, the Woodchip mulch works really well at keeping moisture in the soil so the actual tunnel stays really quite dry