If people are thinking 'a strong East wind' rules out Divine Intervention, keep in mind that Moses described what he and the people experienced, and certainly weren't able to explain HOW Yahweh caused these things to happen. For example, the text doesn't say How the walls of water remained in that state
“the LORD caused the sea to go back by a strong east wind all that night, and made the sea dry land, and the waters were divided. And the children of Israel went into the midst of the sea upon the dry ground: and the waters were a wall unto them on their right hand, and on their left.” Exodus 14:21-22 The LORD used the wind to dry the sea bed so the Israelites could cross on dry ground. The waters were a wall on both sides as they walked through, that isn’t natural, God did that, a miracle.
I love David Rohl, but when he says God works within the bounds of what we know in Science...If God created the physical Universe, then Why would he be bound by those constraints? Surely He could act in ways we couldn't perceive or measure with our limited understanding of how the Universe works. Fortunately, Moses described the Sea parting via a strong East wind that drove the water back and dried the seabed. It's pretty simple. But, What held the walls of water Upright? There's the real question.
Amen! I like this series.. but sometimes they try to explain the unexplainable, and compartmentalize a God that can't be placed in a box, and some "evidence" isn't meant to be found. - then God would be able to "be explained". I love your reasoning! May God be with you!
@@LuLuBell My bigger problem is with Mr Mahoney and how the films after Moses Controversy are increasingly shaped by his bias rather than evidence, excluding more and more that which contradicts his preference and creating perameters based on those biases, like this ridiculous Egyptian vs Hebrew 'views' and checklists crafted for his preferred locations of certain sites. It's incredibly dishonest.
Almighty God(YHVH) divided the sea, and dried out the sea bed using wind. And He held the walls of water until the enemies of His nation was deep within.
Just bought and watched The Red Sea Miracle 2...great work Timothy...loved every minute of it...waiting for more...amain...thank you thank you...bless you and your family and friends colleagues abundantly...shalom shalom from NZ...💕🙏
So i have a separate problem im kind of noticing but am not sure about 100% So if you look at the red sea youll see that the flow of water, relatively, runs north and south… and so if we have an east wind pushing the waters… witch way? >west
If God used wind to part the water, imagine how strong the wind had to be, and with such a strong wind, I'm wondering how did the Israelites avoided being blown away
That's an obvious and valid question. Since we're talking about Yahweh causing these things, no doubt His actions were highly focused. For all the things He did to ensure the safety of His people, it hardly makes sense they would have had wind blasting at their faces. No doubt Moses and the people marveled that this was the case. -Or, the wind blew the sea apart and dried the seabed, then abated enough to let them pass through. The Bible doesn't specify How the Walls of Water stood in their place, it just indicates they had a stiffened appearance.
Archaeologists have also found cave drawings of this whole sea departing on the otherside of the sea in Hebrew writings. The question they can't scientifically explain is how they got across without boats. They usually just chok it up as an unsolved mystery. They fear saying God did it because they don't want to be mocked for it. Saying it is an unsolved mystery is just safer.
Normally would not a strong east wind also make the sea dangerously turbulent and impassable by ship? Would not an east wind blowing all night reassure Pharaoh's army that Israel was not escaping under the cover of darkness? Everything about the Red Sea crossing was for God's Glory. ¹⁷ For the Scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew My power in thee, and that *My Name* might be declared throughout all the earth. *-Romans 9:17* ¹⁶ And in very deed for this cause have I raised thee up, for to shew in thee My Power; and that *My Name* may be declared throughout all the earth. *-Exodus 9:16*
Has anybody ever done a “back of the napkin” calculation to see what velocity, direction, duration of wind it would take to move a certain quantity of water? If a wind of “x” mph can move “x” tons of water per hour, for example, what would properties of the moving air actually have to be in order for “x” amount of water to move in one evening? We know that hurricanes can cause gigantic storm surges, why couldn’t a low pressure system accomplish something similar?
The problem with that is it still wouldn't be able to account for Yahweh's specific weilding of said East Wind. I don't repeat the Biblical words to rule out the miraculous, but to say what Moses and the people witnessed was literal wind activity. No doubt there was more to it than meets the eye.
It's a huge amount! I live in the Netherlands, where we have a lot of so called 'polders', which is sea where they surrounded it with dykes of land and then pumped the water slowly away with huge pumps. To move water from one way to a other costst a lot of energy especially when water needs to be pushed upwards. Been in a gemaal last month that was running like crazy to lower the water levels because of overfloodings due to rivers overflooding. That one 'gemaal' has 2500PK (horsepower) and can move 4000 m3 (square meters) per minute. I feel humble when I think of it
The strip that Israel crossed is very clear today as we can see the chariots under the Red Sea found by Ron Wyatt in the 1980's and also Solomon's pillars on either side(one missing). The deepest point of the crossing site is 300 feet. A wind needed to push aside 300 feet of water would be insurmountable, there has never been a wind speed recorded on earth high enough to do that, especially in an area where the ground is covered in sand, it would have been displaced to the bedrock at those speeds. As we read in Genesis, God used to wind to dry the land but He didn't use it to remove the water, the wind was the final cycle of preparing the ground, there was most likely a wind moving between the walls of water, but the Israelite's had carts spilling over with goods, and they had children even babies. Maybe we can believe that a God who speaks a Universe into existence did this by simply speaking it to happen. Many will say that impossible,...well go look at the chariot evidence and explain how the chariots got there...and who would throw away a gold chariot wheel? You can see where the Israelite's congregated before the sea split on Google Earth, it is a site called Nuweiba beach, Mount Sinai in 30 east and 30 miles south on the opposite side of the red Sea, it is called Jabel el Laws.
The whole chariots under the Aqaba region thing has been debunked. I used to buy into that too, but Ron Wyatt proved to be a fraud. Claimed to meet Jesus twice, claimed to find the Ark of The Covenant in a cave beneath the crucifixion site with Jesus blood splattered on the cover. He took artifacts -the bases of carved pillars- from Nabataean sites and relocated them to Jebel Maqla to fake proof of Moses' 12 pillars, despite the pillar bases clearly being relics from the much later Greco-Roman period, whereas the pillars Moses set up would have been unhewn stones.
2:54 The "Khamsin" is a storm so-named in Arabic because of how incredibly long it can last, the term meaning "fifty" as per observed length of said storm...it doesn't mean 'East Wind'.
Normally would not a strong east wind make the Sea dangerously turbulent and impassable by ship? Would not an east wind blowing all night reassure Pharaoh's army that Israel was not escaping under the cover of darkness? Everything about the Red Sea crossing was for God's Glory. ¹⁷ For the Scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew My power in thee, and that *My Name* might be declared throughout all the earth. *-Romans 9:17* ¹⁶ And in very deed for this cause have I raised thee up, for to shew in thee My Power; and that *My Name* may be declared throughout all the earth. *-Exodus 9:16*
This foreboding notion of 'the East Wind' - does that connection come from Biblical or Modern times? Not sure if it can be used to explain away the 'strong East wind' at the Red Sea parting
I'm interested in how the original Hebrew text of Exodus 14:21-22 has it: Is it: “the LORD caused the sea to go back BY a strong east wind all that night, AND made the sea dry land, and the waters were divided. And the children of Israel went into the midst of the sea upon the dry ground: and the waters were a wall unto them on their right hand, and on their left.” ...or... “the LORD caused the sea to go back, AND BY a strong east wind all that night, made the sea dry land, and the waters were divided. And the children of Israel went into the midst of the sea upon the dry ground: and the waters were a wall unto them on their right hand, and on their left.” Comments?
I assumed it was parted by a tsunami lol. Wasn't there an earthquake and volcano erupting at time time of the exodus? All the 10 plagues match up with some disaster happening. The gases being released and taking the first born, the sea turning red, the pillar of fire by day and pillar of fire by night etc etc...
I love David Rohl, and I get he's an agnostic, but here's where there's a disconnect. I absolutely agree God can use JUST the natural forces of the world to coalesce in circumstances to produce a real but very rare phenomenon that could be seen as a miracle, and he subscribes to that. Okay, but then how does he explain the pillars of fire and cloud not just at the crossing site, but actually leading the Hebrews through the wilderness non-stop for 40 years? There is no natural explanation of that because while the elements are natural, and even vortices of clouds or fire are attested in nature, they've certainly never been sustained for 4 decades straight anywhere on Earth, not to mention being the vanguard that millions of people were meant to follow. That is a supernatural phenomenon because it has no natural explanation. So he either has to believe that the text is telling the truth about those pillars, and therefore there is a God, or he has to deny it (or twist the text into something other than its straight-forward meaning in a feat of mental gymnastics to fit his worldview). So his argument is that the water can't possibly have been stacked up in walls 2,500 feet high, but if God can do the whole pillar of clouds or fire thing, which is a genuine supernatural miracle unto itself, then God can also stack the waters that high, and so I would challenge him to re-consider his position on the parting. As an aside, I had a friend who was given a revelation that not only was there a pillar of cloud the led the Hebrews by day that stretched to the sky, but also that the top of the pillar flattened out for miles across providing shade from the desert heat as well, which makes sense that God would do that even if He had condemned them to wander all that time because the shade would make a huge difference in being able to survive so long in that environment.
Did your friend have a revelation or read in the Bible where it specifically says that Yahweh spread out the Pillar of Cloud as a screen? I believe it says this in the Psalms.
As for the 2500-ft walls of water.... In the Book of Judges chapter 11, I think, Jephthah recounts how the Israelites came to the Promised Land. He says they left Egypt and travelled through the Wilderness (skipping recounting the events of the Sea Crossing and sojourn at Mt Sinai) till they came to Kadesh at the Red Sea (Gulf of Aqaba), where they then asked permission of the King of Edom to travel through Edomite land on a more straightforward path to Canaan. That means the Israelites had been travelling through the Sinai Peninsula and crossed the Sea somewhere West/Northwest of the Sinai Peninsula. Had they crossed at Aqaba, they would've had to cross through Edomite territory to get to Kadesh, which doesn't make sense. They could've headed up into Canaan from there in Midian. The only reason there's tslk of 2500-ft walls of water is that Aqaba Sea-crossing theory. The plunging descent into the seabed. But that theory's untenable. I've always reckoned the Gulf of Suez as the crossing site, not nearly so deep, about 30 meters in the middle of the supposed crossing site. And with a wide enough channel allowing the swiftest crossing for such an enormous crowd, I'm sure the walls of water were towering tall - but quite some distance from one another. A nightly crossing with the darkened pillar of cloud may have enabled the Egyptians to enter the seabed without seeing the walls of water.
@@Bimfirestarter There's a vague mention in Psalm 105 of the pillar being a covering, but that's all it says, not how it was a covering nor any specific description. My friend's revelation was far more detailed.
@@Bimfirestarter No, your geography is incorrect. Firstly the Sinai peninsula, which was named by Emperor Constantine's mother Helen in the 4th century AD had no idea what she was talking about as the peninsula was always a part of Egypt 3500 years ago even as it is now. We know this because there are ancient Egyptian copper mines and forts scattered around the peninsula covered in hieroglyphic graffiti. It's also why Anwar Sadat demanded the peninsula back after Israel had occupied it after being attacked by Egypt because it "has always been a part of Egypt". Crossing the Gulf of Suez doesn't get you out of Egypt, nor does any of the other places proposed by anyone saying it's anything other than Aqaba, only crossing the Gulf of Aqaba does. Secondly, the Hebrews asked to take the broad road through Edom which also still exists to this day and it starts right at the north end of the Gulf of Aqaba and runs northeast though Edom (modern day southern Jordan) along the East side of the Arabah Valley and brings you by Mt. Seir close to where they crossed the Jordan into Israel. If they were in the Sinai peninsula, why wouldn't they just walk right into Canaan, there would be no need to go anywhere near Edom. It would be like driving to Dallas from Chicago by way of Denver. Sure you can go that way, but why would you if your goal is to get there by the most direct route. No, the only way you need to take the broad road is because you are coming to Edom from the south where Midian was which we know was in Northwest Arabia which the Bible says they had traveled through.
@@calebwilliams7659 The Bibe's geography is correct. The only reson I detect for not associating present Sinai with ancient Sinai is bias towards the theory of proven fraud Ron Wyatt. Is there any Historical testimony that contradicts Helena's identification? Consider, too, that she would have been directed there by others familiar with the area. Anyways, I care little for what she had to say, because the Bible directs us there as well as archaeological evidence. Recall that the Bible tells us the Israelites weren't led by Yahweh via the Way of The Sea through Philistine territory, hence why they were brought South into Sinai, through the Wilderness of Shur which "faces Egypt". Shur means "Wall", referring to the "Wall of the Ruler", a known barrier in ancient Egyptian times. So I'm shur 😉you can appreciate why the Bible has the Israelites entering Canaan through Jordan rather than a straight entry along the Mediterranean. Exodus 12:41 "At the end of the 430 years, on that very day, all the multitudes of Jehovah went out of the Land of Egypt." The claim that Sinai was part of Egypt - No, but the Egyptians did have seasonal mining operations there. They didn't have a permanent presence. Exodus 12 literally tells us that the Israelites left Egypt on day one, as far as the narrative was concerned, so these odd attempts to claim such phrases as 'out of the land of Egypt' MUST mean they were beyond anywhere that had any trace of Egyptian influence fall flat. Once they entered the desert, Moses writes 'they had left the land of Egypt'. They had the Pharaoh's eager permission to leave. Egypt had been brought to its knees. After the Red Sea event, do you think anyone of the Egyptians (that remained in any fortress etc) would have dared to come at the Israelites who had 600,000 able-bodied men alone? No. 40 years later, there was even fear among the Canaanites because of what Yahweh did in humbling the Egyptians. The Israelites also came to Dophkah after leaving the WIlderness of Sin en route to Mt Sinai. It's been identified with ancient Egyptian Du-Mofka, present Serabit El-Khadim, an ancient turquoise mine. Du-Mofka means 'Mountain of Turquoise' and inscriptions there identify the place. It has a temple to Hathor on top and the oldest Alphabetic inscriptions, now proving to be Israelite, several of them chastising "those who wandered after the (cow-goddess) Hathor/Baalath". Several inscriptions like Sinai 361 of these Proto-Sinaitic variety read that way. One mentions the gathering of Manna in accord with Divine instructions (Sinai 357). Another inscription mentions Hobab in connection with 'The Assembly' (common term for the nation of Israel) in connection with a 'furnace of majesty' or 'majestic furnace' at an ancient copper mine (Wadi Nasb) also near traditional Mt SInai. History doesn't tell us that Catherine the Great made a mistake; people who want to believe something else say she made a mistake. Also, Would not she have been told where Sinai is by others? This location has more in its favor than just her identification of it. It has inscriptions made by Hebrew-speaking Israelites, inscriptions that tell us of events and locations in the Exodus narrative. Hard to argue with ancient testimony. The Bible tells us the Wilderness of Shur "faces Egypt". How could the Israelites have crossed the Red Sea at Aqaba, entered Midian and somehow Shur if Shur faces Egypt? That would make Shur quite away from the 'face' of Egypt. Are not the Amalekites described similarly as dwelling in front of (literally 'to the face of') Egypt? Those descriptions don't apply if the Israelites cross the Sea into Midian.
The waters were FROZEN or "CONGEALED" Exodus 15:8 [8]And with the blast of thy nostrils the waters were gathered together, the floods stood upright as an heap, and the depths were CONGEALED in the heart of the sea.
You guys are reading too much into it. The strong wind was used to DRY the ground not as a parting agent. At nueva theres a natural shelf with the water being only a couple hundred feet deep
This video begins weird. The Bible doesn't say the Sea was parted by Moses' staff. Yahweh tells him to "lift up his rod, stretch your hand out over the sea and divide it". There's no Egyptian vs Hebrew approach. It feels like someone's looking to confirm their own bias rather than get to the truth, here. It says a 'strong East wind'. The language is very clear. This discussion feels disingenuous before we even reach the 1 minute mark 😬🤔
Since God created the heavens and the earth in 6 days, I don’t question the parting of the Red Sea anymore than I question an ax head floating
If people are thinking 'a strong East wind' rules out Divine Intervention, keep in mind that Moses described what he and the people experienced, and certainly weren't able to explain HOW Yahweh caused these things to happen. For example, the text doesn't say How the walls of water remained in that state
“the LORD caused the sea to go back by a strong east wind all that night, and made the sea dry land, and the waters were divided. And the children of Israel went into the midst of the sea upon the dry ground: and the waters were a wall unto them on their right hand, and on their left.” Exodus 14:21-22
The LORD used the wind to dry the sea bed so the Israelites could cross on dry ground. The waters were a wall on both sides as they walked through, that isn’t natural, God did that, a miracle.
Parting of the sea - Gulf of Aqaba?: 30 feet. Get the right location.
I love David Rohl, but when he says God works within the bounds of what we know in Science...If God created the physical Universe, then Why would he be bound by those constraints? Surely He could act in ways we couldn't perceive or measure with our limited understanding of how the Universe works.
Fortunately, Moses described the Sea parting via a strong East wind that drove the water back and dried the seabed. It's pretty simple. But, What held the walls of water Upright? There's the real question.
Amen! I like this series.. but sometimes they try to explain the unexplainable, and compartmentalize a God that can't be placed in a box, and some "evidence" isn't meant to be found. - then God would be able to "be explained". I love your reasoning! May God be with you!
@@LuLuBell My bigger problem is with Mr Mahoney and how the films after Moses Controversy are increasingly shaped by his bias rather than evidence, excluding more and more that which contradicts his preference and creating perameters based on those biases, like this ridiculous Egyptian vs Hebrew 'views' and checklists crafted for his preferred locations of certain sites. It's incredibly dishonest.
Almighty God(YHVH) divided the sea, and dried out the sea bed using wind. And He held the walls of water until the enemies of His nation was deep within.
Just bought and watched The Red Sea Miracle 2...great work Timothy...loved every minute of it...waiting for more...amain...thank you thank you...bless you and your family and friends colleagues abundantly...shalom shalom from NZ...💕🙏
So i have a separate problem im kind of noticing but am not sure about 100%
So if you look at the red sea youll see that the flow of water, relatively, runs north and south…
and so if we have an east wind pushing the waters… witch way? >west
If God used wind to part the water, imagine how strong the wind had to be, and with such a strong wind, I'm wondering how did the Israelites avoided being blown away
That's an obvious and valid question. Since we're talking about Yahweh causing these things, no doubt His actions were highly focused. For all the things He did to ensure the safety of His people, it hardly makes sense they would have had wind blasting at their faces. No doubt Moses and the people marveled that this was the case. -Or, the wind blew the sea apart and dried the seabed, then abated enough to let them pass through. The Bible doesn't specify How the Walls of Water stood in their place, it just indicates they had a stiffened appearance.
Archaeologists have also found cave drawings of this whole sea departing on the otherside of the sea in Hebrew writings. The question they can't scientifically explain is how they got across without boats. They usually just chok it up as an unsolved mystery. They fear saying God did it because they don't want to be mocked for it. Saying it is an unsolved mystery is just safer.
Normally would not a strong east wind also make the sea dangerously turbulent and impassable by ship? Would not an east wind blowing all night reassure Pharaoh's army that Israel was not escaping under the cover of darkness?
Everything about the Red Sea crossing was for God's Glory.
¹⁷ For the Scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew My power in thee, and that *My Name* might be declared throughout all the earth.
*-Romans 9:17*
¹⁶ And in very deed for this cause have I raised thee up, for to shew in thee My Power; and that *My Name* may be declared throughout all the earth.
*-Exodus 9:16*
It congealed the water, and there was another wind to take down the standing water!
Has anybody ever done a “back of the napkin” calculation to see what velocity, direction, duration of wind it would take to move a certain quantity of water? If a wind of “x” mph can move “x” tons of water per hour, for example, what would properties of the moving air actually have to be in order for “x” amount of water to move in one evening? We know that hurricanes can cause gigantic storm surges, why couldn’t a low pressure system accomplish something similar?
The problem with that is it still wouldn't be able to account for Yahweh's specific weilding of said East Wind. I don't repeat the Biblical words to rule out the miraculous, but to say what Moses and the people witnessed was literal wind activity. No doubt there was more to it than meets the eye.
@@Bimfirestarter fair point
It's a huge amount! I live in the Netherlands, where we have a lot of so called 'polders', which is sea where they surrounded it with dykes of land and then pumped the water slowly away with huge pumps. To move water from one way to a other costst a lot of energy especially when water needs to be pushed upwards. Been in a gemaal last month that was running like crazy to lower the water levels because of overfloodings due to rivers overflooding. That one 'gemaal' has 2500PK (horsepower) and can move 4000 m3 (square meters) per minute. I feel humble when I think of it
@@jakoboka that’s awesome! Thank you for your comment!
PLEASE CONSIDER, Aprox 900 Feet Deep Only in That Crossing at Nuweba Red Sea
8:25 "Could God have used wind". That's what the Bible says. 🤦♂
The strip that Israel crossed is very clear today as we can see the chariots under the Red Sea found by Ron Wyatt in the 1980's and also Solomon's pillars on either side(one missing). The deepest point of the crossing site is 300 feet. A wind needed to push aside 300 feet of water would be insurmountable, there has never been a wind speed recorded on earth high enough to do that, especially in an area where the ground is covered in sand, it would have been displaced to the bedrock at those speeds. As we read in Genesis, God used to wind to dry the land but He didn't use it to remove the water, the wind was the final cycle of preparing the ground, there was most likely a wind moving between the walls of water, but the Israelite's had carts spilling over with goods, and they had children even babies.
Maybe we can believe that a God who speaks a Universe into existence did this by simply speaking it to happen. Many will say that impossible,...well go look at the chariot evidence and explain how the chariots got there...and who would throw away a gold chariot wheel? You can see where the Israelite's congregated before the sea split on Google Earth, it is a site called Nuweiba beach, Mount Sinai in 30 east and 30 miles south on the opposite side of the red Sea, it is called Jabel el Laws.
The whole chariots under the Aqaba region thing has been debunked. I used to buy into that too, but Ron Wyatt proved to be a fraud. Claimed to meet Jesus twice, claimed to find the Ark of The Covenant in a cave beneath the crucifixion site with Jesus blood splattered on the cover. He took artifacts -the bases of carved pillars- from Nabataean sites and relocated them to Jebel Maqla to fake proof of Moses' 12 pillars, despite the pillar bases clearly being relics from the much later Greco-Roman period, whereas the pillars Moses set up would have been unhewn stones.
I agree. I know it was a miracle & I love the work of Ron Wyatt. God truly led him .
Look up Mediterranean hurricanes. They do happen and they make enough wind to push lakes. They also spin the right way tost h the changing wind
Can somebody please tel David Rohl how well liked he is? His work has actually helped my faith in Yeshua.
How amazing is our God? 🕊
2:54 The "Khamsin" is a storm so-named in Arabic because of how incredibly long it can last, the term meaning "fifty" as per observed length of said storm...it doesn't mean 'East Wind'.
Normally would not a strong east wind make the Sea dangerously turbulent and impassable by ship? Would not an east wind blowing all night reassure Pharaoh's army that Israel was not escaping under the cover of darkness?
Everything about the Red Sea crossing was for God's Glory.
¹⁷ For the Scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew My power in thee, and that *My Name* might be declared throughout all the earth.
*-Romans 9:17*
¹⁶ And in very deed for this cause have I raised thee up, for to shew in thee My Power; and that *My Name* may be declared throughout all the earth.
*-Exodus 9:16*
This foreboding notion of 'the East Wind' - does that connection come from Biblical or Modern times? Not sure if it can be used to explain away the 'strong East wind' at the Red Sea parting
I'm interested in how the original Hebrew text of Exodus 14:21-22 has it:
Is it: “the LORD caused the sea to go back BY a strong east wind all that night, AND made the sea dry land, and the waters were divided. And the children of Israel went into the midst of the sea upon the dry ground: and the waters were a wall unto them on their right hand, and on their left.”
...or...
“the LORD caused the sea to go back, AND BY a strong east wind all that night, made the sea dry land, and the waters were divided. And the children of Israel went into the midst of the sea upon the dry ground: and the waters were a wall unto them on their right hand, and on their left.”
Comments?
I assumed it was parted by a tsunami lol. Wasn't there an earthquake and volcano erupting at time time of the exodus? All the 10 plagues match up with some disaster happening. The gases being released and taking the first born, the sea turning red, the pillar of fire by day and pillar of fire by night etc etc...
I love David Rohl, and I get he's an agnostic, but here's where there's a disconnect. I absolutely agree God can use JUST the natural forces of the world to coalesce in circumstances to produce a real but very rare phenomenon that could be seen as a miracle, and he subscribes to that. Okay, but then how does he explain the pillars of fire and cloud not just at the crossing site, but actually leading the Hebrews through the wilderness non-stop for 40 years? There is no natural explanation of that because while the elements are natural, and even vortices of clouds or fire are attested in nature, they've certainly never been sustained for 4 decades straight anywhere on Earth, not to mention being the vanguard that millions of people were meant to follow. That is a supernatural phenomenon because it has no natural explanation. So he either has to believe that the text is telling the truth about those pillars, and therefore there is a God, or he has to deny it (or twist the text into something other than its straight-forward meaning in a feat of mental gymnastics to fit his worldview). So his argument is that the water can't possibly have been stacked up in walls 2,500 feet high, but if God can do the whole pillar of clouds or fire thing, which is a genuine supernatural miracle unto itself, then God can also stack the waters that high, and so I would challenge him to re-consider his position on the parting.
As an aside, I had a friend who was given a revelation that not only was there a pillar of cloud the led the Hebrews by day that stretched to the sky, but also that the top of the pillar flattened out for miles across providing shade from the desert heat as well, which makes sense that God would do that even if He had condemned them to wander all that time because the shade would make a huge difference in being able to survive so long in that environment.
Did your friend have a revelation or read in the Bible where it specifically says that Yahweh spread out the Pillar of Cloud as a screen? I believe it says this in the Psalms.
As for the 2500-ft walls of water....
In the Book of Judges chapter 11, I think, Jephthah recounts how the Israelites came to the Promised Land. He says they left Egypt and travelled through the Wilderness (skipping recounting the events of the Sea Crossing and sojourn at Mt Sinai) till they came to Kadesh at the Red Sea (Gulf of Aqaba), where they then asked permission of the King of Edom to travel through Edomite land on a more straightforward path to Canaan.
That means the Israelites had been travelling through the Sinai Peninsula and crossed the Sea somewhere West/Northwest of the Sinai Peninsula. Had they crossed at Aqaba, they would've had to cross through Edomite territory to get to Kadesh, which doesn't make sense. They could've headed up into Canaan from there in Midian.
The only reason there's tslk of 2500-ft walls of water is that Aqaba Sea-crossing theory. The plunging descent into the seabed.
But that theory's untenable. I've always reckoned the Gulf of Suez as the crossing site, not nearly so deep, about 30 meters in the middle of the supposed crossing site. And with a wide enough channel allowing the swiftest crossing for such an enormous crowd, I'm sure the walls of water were towering tall - but quite some distance from one another. A nightly crossing with the darkened pillar of cloud may have enabled the Egyptians to enter the seabed without seeing the walls of water.
@@Bimfirestarter There's a vague mention in Psalm 105 of the pillar being a covering, but that's all it says, not how it was a covering nor any specific description. My friend's revelation was far more detailed.
@@Bimfirestarter No, your geography is incorrect. Firstly the Sinai peninsula, which was named by Emperor Constantine's mother Helen in the 4th century AD had no idea what she was talking about as the peninsula was always a part of Egypt 3500 years ago even as it is now. We know this because there are ancient Egyptian copper mines and forts scattered around the peninsula covered in hieroglyphic graffiti. It's also why Anwar Sadat demanded the peninsula back after Israel had occupied it after being attacked by Egypt because it "has always been a part of Egypt". Crossing the Gulf of Suez doesn't get you out of Egypt, nor does any of the other places proposed by anyone saying it's anything other than Aqaba, only crossing the Gulf of Aqaba does. Secondly, the Hebrews asked to take the broad road through Edom which also still exists to this day and it starts right at the north end of the Gulf of Aqaba and runs northeast though Edom (modern day southern Jordan) along the East side of the Arabah Valley and brings you by Mt. Seir close to where they crossed the Jordan into Israel. If they were in the Sinai peninsula, why wouldn't they just walk right into Canaan, there would be no need to go anywhere near Edom. It would be like driving to Dallas from Chicago by way of Denver. Sure you can go that way, but why would you if your goal is to get there by the most direct route. No, the only way you need to take the broad road is because you are coming to Edom from the south where Midian was which we know was in Northwest Arabia which the Bible says they had traveled through.
@@calebwilliams7659 The Bibe's geography is correct. The only reson I detect for not associating present Sinai with ancient Sinai is bias towards the theory of proven fraud Ron Wyatt. Is there any Historical testimony that contradicts Helena's identification? Consider, too, that she would have been directed there by others familiar with the area. Anyways, I care little for what she had to say, because the Bible directs us there as well as archaeological evidence.
Recall that the Bible tells us the Israelites weren't led by Yahweh via the Way of The Sea through Philistine territory, hence why they were brought South into Sinai, through the Wilderness of Shur which "faces Egypt". Shur means "Wall", referring to the "Wall of the Ruler", a known barrier in ancient Egyptian times. So I'm shur 😉you can appreciate why the Bible has the Israelites entering Canaan through Jordan rather than a straight entry along the Mediterranean.
Exodus 12:41 "At the end of the 430 years, on that very day, all the multitudes of Jehovah went out of the Land of Egypt."
The claim that Sinai was part of Egypt - No, but the Egyptians did have seasonal mining operations there. They didn't have a permanent presence. Exodus 12 literally tells us that the Israelites left Egypt on day one, as far as the narrative was concerned, so these odd attempts to claim such phrases as 'out of the land of Egypt' MUST mean they were beyond anywhere that had any trace of Egyptian influence fall flat. Once they entered the desert, Moses writes 'they had left the land of Egypt'.
They had the Pharaoh's eager permission to leave. Egypt had been brought to its knees. After the Red Sea event, do you think anyone of the Egyptians (that remained in any fortress etc) would have dared to come at the Israelites who had 600,000 able-bodied men alone? No. 40 years later, there was even fear among the Canaanites because of what Yahweh did in humbling the Egyptians.
The Israelites also came to Dophkah after leaving the WIlderness of Sin en route to Mt Sinai. It's been identified with ancient Egyptian Du-Mofka, present Serabit El-Khadim, an ancient turquoise mine. Du-Mofka means 'Mountain of Turquoise' and inscriptions there identify the place. It has a temple to Hathor on top and the oldest Alphabetic inscriptions, now proving to be Israelite, several of them chastising "those who wandered after the (cow-goddess) Hathor/Baalath". Several inscriptions like Sinai 361 of these Proto-Sinaitic variety read that way. One mentions the gathering of Manna in accord with Divine instructions (Sinai 357). Another inscription mentions Hobab in connection with 'The Assembly' (common term for the nation of Israel) in connection with a 'furnace of majesty' or 'majestic furnace' at an ancient copper mine (Wadi Nasb) also near traditional Mt SInai.
History doesn't tell us that Catherine the Great made a mistake; people who want to believe something else say she made a mistake. Also, Would not she have been told where Sinai is by others? This location has more in its favor than just her identification of it. It has inscriptions made by Hebrew-speaking Israelites, inscriptions that tell us of events and locations in the Exodus narrative. Hard to argue with ancient testimony.
The Bible tells us the Wilderness of Shur "faces Egypt". How could the Israelites have crossed the Red Sea at Aqaba, entered Midian and somehow Shur if Shur faces Egypt? That would make Shur quite away from the 'face' of Egypt. Are not the Amalekites described similarly as dwelling in front of (literally 'to the face of') Egypt? Those descriptions don't apply if the Israelites cross the Sea into Midian.
The waters were FROZEN or "CONGEALED"
Exodus 15:8
[8]And with the blast of thy nostrils the waters were gathered together, the floods stood upright as an heap, and the depths were CONGEALED in the heart of the sea.
You guys are reading too much into it. The strong wind was used to DRY the ground not as a parting agent. At nueva theres a natural shelf with the water being only a couple hundred feet deep
This video begins weird. The Bible doesn't say the Sea was parted by Moses' staff. Yahweh tells him to "lift up his rod, stretch your hand out over the sea and divide it". There's no Egyptian vs Hebrew approach. It feels like someone's looking to confirm their own bias rather than get to the truth, here. It says a 'strong East wind'. The language is very clear. This discussion feels disingenuous before we even reach the 1 minute mark 😬🤔