The first 15 years of career was spent at Ford Lincoln /Mercury dealerships and useful special tools were never on the shelf. Instead it was in another tech box.
@@Jordan-ym5gf i used to work at KIA, its the same in most places, that 1 tech who hordes the special tools. its worth investing in what you think you'll use everyday.
Hey flatrate. I dont want you to think im being negative. Because i like the multiple camera angle. But i think it needs to switch far less often. Keep up the great work though
Couldn't agree more. Good example is a 2014 Mercedes Benz CLA Im working on. Needs a new water pump which is shoehorned under the turbo/exhaust manifold and the belt tensioner sits under the engine mount. Mercedes Benz techs have a special torx belt tension tool to quickly get the belt off. I had to take the engine mount off. Just alittle bit of time wasted with having to remove the mount and support the engine but every second counts
Another rant related to this job is how your parts guy can make or break you!! I got a part that was supposed to come in today but delivery is pushed back. Then the other day they gave me the wrong part... wastes so much time you could be making money!!
An advantage for dealer techs is recalls. Usually after a couple times of doing a recall, you can do them in way less than half of the time. Also, if a vehicle is under basic warranty you can usually perform software updates on the modules if there's a TSB with a labor op code. On engine, transfer case, and trans control modules, you maybe able to update it on powertrain warranty. You already have it in your bay, so if you can get an hour or more of updates, it's easy money. OH... one really big advantage of a dealership is that if you break something, say like a trim piece or a cover, it can be warranty covered under incidental damage without a lot of hassle. Even a misdiagnosed concern can usually be buried in the paperwork somewhere. We had one tech that called it the magic pencil.
The camera angles work, if you do them about 1/4 as much. 😎 Tools, all the dealer techs i’ve worked with need is test parts, a box of tissues and a purse.
Constructive criticism: The angle thing is getting a bit irritating to watch it needs more practice and when to use it the dramatic point is lost when you do it too often and at times it looks like you dont know where to look😜
a point from a dealer tech: having to hope that said special tool is in it's proper place and not broken or MIA, because some of these special tools are no longer made and even dealers can not get them any more (We have had this happen to us at the dealer I work for) also if you plan on working on newer Mazdas or a Mazda Dealer get a short and long 23mm the new differentials/transfer cases use them as plugs.
As a fleet technician I would say I'm close to a independent shop as in tool needs. Yes, I pretty much work on the same makes of vehicles. Where the fun comes in is when the company buys new cars for the fleet, most generally it's a different makes and models, thus needfor me to purchase specialty tools.
Harold Segnitz I fell your pain brother! I never know what they are buying until they come through the shop doors. It’s becoming a real pain in the ass.
Totally true, I work at an independent shop, and do a ton of Ford work. I have a large amount of Ford engine repair tools. But I also work on many other makes so have their specialty tools as well. I do everything but my two most common areas are interior work (dash work, actuators, heater & evap cores, locks & windows) & internal engine work (heads, timing chains & belts, turbos, etc). That equates to a ton of specialty tools.
i spent 6 years as a KIA and Renault Tech, they had a wall full of special tools, some special tools were also generic enough that i thought it was worth buying for my personal kit. the Renault test light kit with adaptors i use everyday, regardless of what brand car. there are others but i could talk all day :P now i run my own shop and you need EVERYTHING.
As a dealer tech I hate the constant ragging on us. Dealer techs have it easier, Dealer techs don’t have to spend as much on tools, Dealer techs get warranty pay.......... Well dealer techs have to fix the shit that breaks BEFORE there is even any info on a product or new model line, no one call no one to google no one to bail you out.
Sorry, if i came off as ragging you on, needing less tools, it was meant as an advantage, as in you don't have to buy as much to be efficient and i would never call warranty pay jobs an advantage, just gives you work when there is no CP work, so you keep billing hours
Great information. As a light to heavy equipment mechanic., we have a wide range of makes come thru the door daily That said, my bosses don't provide any specialty tool other than the shop laptop and a hand scanner for JLG brand equipment.
I’ve worked in both independent and dealer. At this point I could go either way stay at dealer or go independent. The pay for independent shops around these parts is pretty bad though. The going trend seems to be no one wants to pay for experience because no one has no money. That’s a baaad circle right there.
Wow! Where are you from? I'm in Connecticut and professionals with experience are far and few between so pay has to match that's a crazy so the mentality where you are
I'm in mid Michigan and independent shops don't pay that great but they usually pay hourly or salary where as the dealers pay flat rate. After going to dealership, I don't want to go back to independent shops.
All specialty tools are supplied at my jaguar land rover shop in gwinnett. I can fit all my neccessary tools into an 800 dollar Milwaukee toolbox and a roll cart, everything else is supplied.
It’s a weird feeling from going from a local independent shop to a huge nationwide known name Toyota dealership. I will say though if you grew up tinkering with cars a lot as a diy guy I’d say start at an independent shop training under senior techs you will learn a lot more that way based off a broader spectrum vs starting at a dealership them training you teaching you how to work on one brand car and that’s it
Hey Mike good work, at the beginning when you look to the other camera each time it will fade away... I think it would be good to use that feature for when you change points, rather using it as sort of a *,* for the point your making to us. I like the 2 camera tho =)
Even that doesn't help sometimes. Just fricking spins. I bought a 22.5 from Matco and beat it on the nut and play hell getting the nut back out. Whoever designed those things needs to be taken on a one trip to the middle of the Gulf of Mexico.
Where that hit me as a small one-man operation was in the scan tool department. Just couldn't justify all the OEM scan tools/updating/training. Luckily I've managed to muddle along with an a couple aftermarket scan tool without too many missteps.
I'm agree with all of this I'm a R/D guy for proto type or close to production parts for automotive. I find myself buying the most random or something that I dont have weekly, IE E torx sockets in short and deep,never had to need them before as I dont work on Europeans almost ever now there a daily tool almost. Also needed to buy stubby bits and tons and of hex sockets all the way up to 3/4 sae and there metric counter parts. I went snap on on the hex sockets worth the money I compered them to gearwrench one and gearwrench may be longer and the flex more and have a more rounded head on them the round casters fast then snap ons do
gotta work on the angle camera thing LOL. I would suggest only change angles when you transition to another part of your storyline. Your video was approximately 4 minutes so, perhaps no more than two "camera angle" changes. Different camera angles are good as it doesn't make you look stiff all the time but overdoing causes the viewer to lose interest quickly, as evident by the previous comments here. Anyway, as always great content. Always look foward to your videos.
Please go back to the old school set up with 1 camera buddy. Big over- edited angle mess. But the content as always is why i enjoy your channel. Apreciate what your trying to do with something new though mate.
It makes sense that an independent tech will need more tools. It seems unfair but for guys like me who love tools it wouldn't be terrible. :) Us DIY guys nee tools as our cars change. I'm mainly a GM guy but have recently bought into Chrysler products and that opens a whole new can of worms. But I'm not complaining. :)
That's true but it works to my advantage when we can't do a job on a used car because we don't have the tools. At my age I'm not buying a lot of tools to use once or twice if I'm lucky.
I think FRM was trying to make it like one camera was the dealer tech and the other camera was the independent tech. That's some high concept cinematography. Judging by the comments, it kinda fell flat though.
Some high end dealers are starting to provide the tech with all the tools he will need Sounds good ? Will if you hv a monster box ,a mr big and now it's got to go home And the hand you 66% smaller tool set up it's not But if your in the starting stage its great Will that went in to left field lol
I vote single camera 🎥
Again with the camera change every 3 seconds...are you not reading the comments brother?
Great Video But I prefer the single-camera angle setup
The special service tools SHOULD be on the shelf! lol Those special tools are always in another techs toolbox haha
The first 15 years of career was spent at Ford Lincoln /Mercury dealerships and useful special tools were never on the shelf. Instead it was in another tech box.
I work at Kia and it's the same. I just buy my own shit.
@@Jordan-ym5gf i used to work at KIA, its the same in most places, that 1 tech who hordes the special tools. its worth investing in what you think you'll use everyday.
Hey flatrate. I dont want you to think im being negative. Because i like the multiple camera angle. But i think it needs to switch far less often. Keep up the great work though
Couldn't agree more. Good example is a 2014 Mercedes Benz CLA Im working on. Needs a new water pump which is shoehorned under the turbo/exhaust manifold and the belt tensioner sits under the engine mount. Mercedes Benz techs have a special torx belt tension tool to quickly get the belt off. I had to take the engine mount off. Just alittle bit of time wasted with having to remove the mount and support the engine but every second counts
Another rant related to this job is how your parts guy can make or break you!! I got a part that was supposed to come in today but delivery is pushed back. Then the other day they gave me the wrong part... wastes so much time you could be making money!!
An advantage for dealer techs is recalls. Usually after a couple times of doing a recall, you can do them in way less than half of the time. Also, if a vehicle is under basic warranty you can usually perform software updates on the modules if there's a TSB with a labor op code. On engine, transfer case, and trans control modules, you maybe able to update it on powertrain warranty. You already have it in your bay, so if you can get an hour or more of updates, it's easy money.
OH... one really big advantage of a dealership is that if you break something, say like a trim piece or a cover, it can be warranty covered under incidental damage without a lot of hassle. Even a misdiagnosed concern can usually be buried in the paperwork somewhere. We had one tech that called it the magic pencil.
An independent, especially an independent with his own shop, needs EVERYTHING!
The camera angles work, if you do them about 1/4 as much. 😎
Tools, all the dealer techs i’ve worked with need is test parts, a box of tissues and a purse.
I vote single camera angle as well
Constructive criticism: The angle thing is getting a bit irritating to watch it needs more practice and when to use it the dramatic point is lost when you do it too often and at times it looks like you dont know where to look😜
My head is literally spinning trying to watch these new videos
a point from a dealer tech: having to hope that said special tool is in it's proper place and not broken or MIA, because some of these special tools are no longer made and even dealers can not get them any more (We have had this happen to us at the dealer I work for) also if you plan on working on newer Mazdas or a Mazda Dealer get a short and long 23mm the new differentials/transfer cases use them as plugs.
Go the single camera for sure mate 👍
As a fleet technician I would say I'm close to a independent shop as in tool needs. Yes, I pretty much work on the same makes of vehicles. Where the fun comes in is when the company buys new cars for the fleet, most generally it's a different makes and models, thus needfor me to purchase specialty tools.
Harold Segnitz I fell your pain brother! I never know what they are buying until they come through the shop doors. It’s becoming a real pain in the ass.
Totally true, I work at an independent shop, and do a ton of Ford work. I have a large amount of Ford engine repair tools. But I also work on many other makes so have their specialty tools as well. I do everything but my two most common areas are interior work (dash work, actuators, heater & evap cores, locks & windows) & internal engine work (heads, timing chains & belts, turbos, etc). That equates to a ton of specialty tools.
i spent 6 years as a KIA and Renault Tech, they had a wall full of special tools, some special tools were also generic enough that i thought it was worth buying for my personal kit. the Renault test light kit with adaptors i use everyday, regardless of what brand car. there are others but i could talk all day :P now i run my own shop and you need EVERYTHING.
An indie tech is also more likely, than a dealer tech, to fabricate a special tool for that job he knows that he will likely never see another of.
Been there more than twice.
As a dealer tech I hate the constant ragging on us. Dealer techs have it easier, Dealer techs don’t have to spend as much on tools, Dealer techs get warranty pay.......... Well dealer techs have to fix the shit that breaks BEFORE there is even any info on a product or new model line, no one call no one to google no one to bail you out.
And the manufacture tech support people are usually dumber than a box of dirt.
Sorry, if i came off as ragging you on, needing less tools, it was meant as an advantage, as in you don't have to buy as much to be efficient and i would never call warranty pay jobs an advantage, just gives you work when there is no CP work, so you keep billing hours
stop changing camera angles plss
Great information. As a light to heavy equipment mechanic., we have a wide range of makes come thru the door daily
That said, my bosses don't provide any specialty tool other than the shop laptop and a hand scanner for JLG brand equipment.
Guess I'll go independent . . . I love tools!
I’ve worked in both independent and dealer. At this point I could go either way stay at dealer or go independent. The pay for independent shops around these parts is pretty bad though. The going trend seems to be no one wants to pay for experience because no one has no money. That’s a baaad circle right there.
Wow! Where are you from? I'm in Connecticut and professionals with experience are far and few between so pay has to match that's a crazy so the mentality where you are
I'm in mid Michigan and independent shops don't pay that great but they usually pay hourly or salary where as the dealers pay flat rate. After going to dealership, I don't want to go back to independent shops.
All specialty tools are supplied at my jaguar land rover shop in gwinnett. I can fit all my neccessary tools into an 800 dollar Milwaukee toolbox and a roll cart, everything else is supplied.
It’s a weird feeling from going from a local independent shop to a huge nationwide known name Toyota dealership. I will say though if you grew up tinkering with cars a lot as a diy guy I’d say start at an independent shop training under senior techs you will learn a lot more that way based off a broader spectrum vs starting at a dealership them training you teaching you how to work on one brand car and that’s it
As a former motorcycle dealer, you can expect other brands to show up in your shop, regardless of brand. Be prepared.
Good content but why do you have to switch cameras every 10 seconds. I love watching and I'm a big fan bit the 2 cameras are giving me headache.
Hey Mike good work, at the beginning when you look to the other camera each time it will fade away... I think it would be good to use that feature for when you change points, rather using it as sort of a *,* for the point your making to us. I like the 2 camera tho =)
23mm for those damn dodge ram swollen lug nuts that no customer ever feels a need to replace,
Even that doesn't help sometimes. Just fricking spins. I bought a 22.5 from Matco and beat it on the nut and play hell getting the nut back out. Whoever designed those things needs to be taken on a one trip to the middle of the Gulf of Mexico.
@@meabob past 22.5 I won't remove unless they replace. i'm not destroying my sockets because someone is too cheap to fix their shit. lol
Where that hit me as a small one-man operation was in the scan tool department. Just couldn't justify all the OEM scan tools/updating/training. Luckily I've managed to muddle along with an a couple aftermarket scan tool without too many missteps.
I also vote single camera please...
Ya’ you left out us fleet mechanic’s that work on EVERYTHING from a wheel barrel up to a 18 wheeler.
I'm glad I have a gigantic tool box at work dedicated to dealership special tools! Great video 👍
I think the dual cams are great maybe just reduce the number of transitions.
Another point that needs made is that, due to available space, many shops (mostly dealerships) have a limit to the size toolbox you can have there.
Yeah and lots of dealerships are starting to use built in or provided tool box setups. Some may not allow you to buy a large roll cart either.
Single cam please....
I'm agree with all of this I'm a R/D guy for proto type or close to production parts for automotive. I find myself buying the most random or something that I dont have weekly, IE E torx sockets in short and deep,never had to need them before as I dont work on Europeans almost ever now there a daily tool almost. Also needed to buy stubby bits and tons and of hex sockets all the way up to 3/4 sae and there metric counter parts. I went snap on on the hex sockets worth the money I compered them to gearwrench one and gearwrench may be longer and the flex more and have a more rounded head on them the round casters fast then snap ons do
gotta work on the angle camera thing LOL. I would suggest only change angles when you transition to another part of your storyline. Your video was approximately 4 minutes so, perhaps no more than two "camera angle" changes. Different camera angles are good as it doesn't make you look stiff all the time but overdoing causes the viewer to lose interest quickly, as evident by the previous comments here. Anyway, as always great content. Always look foward to your videos.
Please go back to the old school set up with 1 camera buddy. Big over- edited angle mess. But the content as always is why i enjoy your channel. Apreciate what your trying to do with something new though mate.
Depends I m a dealer tech from 6 brands so my box is massive 🇦🇺
It makes sense that an independent tech will need more tools. It seems unfair but for guys like me who love tools it wouldn't be terrible. :) Us DIY guys nee tools as our cars change. I'm mainly a GM guy but have recently bought into Chrysler products and that opens a whole new can of worms. But I'm not complaining. :)
mike good info !! 2 cams good ..less flippping please.
If your a dealer tech and they give
you used cars to evaluate
your pretty close to working
at an independent shop
That's true but it works to my advantage when we can't do a job on a used car because we don't have the tools. At my age I'm not buying a lot of tools to use once or twice if I'm lucky.
Stop with the camera cuts!
Is it me or are 18mm sockets a bitch to find?
Independent guys always need more tools!!.....They work on everything!!.....
Great video..thanks.
I think FRM was trying to make it like one camera was the dealer tech and the other camera was the independent tech. That's some high concept cinematography. Judging by the comments, it kinda fell flat though.
I work in a dealership and most of the special tools are MIA
And with that being said I do understand your point
Single camera please.
I need a Chrysler "dealer dipstick" any help in the aftermarket?? (Trans) edit: trans stick
I bought one at advance auto parts I think, about a year ago. Dealer doesn't want to talk about one 🙂
London Auto Service. London Ky, thank you so much
Amazon has them for $12
Dorman has a universal dipstick
Part# 917-327
whats on the left?
My request a, review on Autel 906TS .... somebody call somebody .
Very imformative video
At 1:40 and beyond you keep saying what my ole lady keeps calling me
Some high end dealers are starting to provide the tech with all the tools he will need
Sounds good ?
Will if you hv a monster box ,a mr big and now it's got to go home
And the hand you 66% smaller tool set up it's not
But if your in the starting stage its great
Will that went in to left field lol