Frame Generation in X-Plane 12! | Lossless scaling | DrishalMAC2
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I think its worth mentioning that this can be used for any sim as far as im aware and you dont need X-Plane on steam for this to work. I bought X-Plane from the LR website and do not have the steam version and it looks brilliant! :)
Edit: Ok so upon further testing of lossless scaling in MSFS i get even better results than the frame generation mod and therefore will be using lossless scaling in MSFS too instead of the frame gen mod for MSFS 🙂
Edit 2: Check out my new article covering Frame Generation on X-Plane! forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/forums/topic/308721-enhancing-x-plane-with-frame-generation/
I think you might have convinced me to try this. Nothing to loose 😂
@@XP72official honestly for £6 it's 100% worth a shot. And with your new pc you should get amazing results! Let me know how it goes :)
Ive got xp 12 9n dvd will it work cheers
Yes it should do :)
Thanks mate for your tireless efforts of keeping us updated upon such usable tools like in this video. We are so fortunate having you showcasing all technical masterpieces out there in a most honest, easily understood and friendly manner. Absolutely world-class!!
Thank you very much Leif! I truly appreciate your kind words and support! :)
What an amazing program, I saw it on an Reddit post and seeing such boost on FPS caught my attention. Nice and easy tutorial went from 35 to 70 fps, quite the job. Nice video.
Brilliant! I'm glad you are enjoying it :)
Thanks so much for another great suggestion to make my sim better. Any chance for doing an ortho 1.4 (beta) step by step installation guide? Could not get it to work (python installation packages gave an error). But would love to fly with improved water features…
Thank you for the kind words! Yes I will do once I work it all out myself :)
This works so well, I used to have 20-40 fps and now it's 100-150 fps.
Glad it works so well for you :)
@@DrishalMAC2 Thank you :)
One thing I would suggest is to create a profile for X-Plane within lossless scaling, just to insure LS doesn't interfere with games you don't want it to interfere with.
Unless you start it it wont interfere with other games but yes the profiles can be very useful :)
@@DrishalMAC2 Another benefit to a dedicated profile is that you can set up LS to auto enable when X-plane starts up.
Oh really wow! I will have to try this out! Thanks! :)
Hi Drishal, came across your video. I have been playing XPL11 on my Mac M1 for a while now, but everytime i taxi around airport sceneries, (LIKE OMDB OR FAOR), my FPS drops to like 15. I would like to ask, will this work on Mac?
Hello, no unfortunately this will not work on mac :)
@@DrishalMAC2 Ok thanks 👍
Thank you !!!😢 I don't understand English very well, can you post a screenshot to see the recommended configuration of the application?
Yes I have done on my discord server I'd you want to join there :)
Thank you mate..... i will give a try for this. excited !!!!
Let me know how it goes :)
Thanks I tried this but the extra fps it made didn't really help with smoothness for me. There was still a lot of stutters, but just smoothed out inbetween them. Not any where near as good as a solid vsync lock though. Had to refund in the end.
That's fair. Yes this won't fix stutters. As I said in the video you need a decent stable fps with minimal stutters for this to work well. Also a good way to fix stutters is to upgrade RAM. I had lots of stutters with 16gb of ram which all went away with 32gb
@@DrishalMAC2 Yea I have a good base rate so was hoping this would trick the monitor into thinking it was 60fps. I have 32gb. System is fairly new too. Even on my old system I had issues with stutters unless vsynced. Both cards were AMD so might try NVIDIA next time.
Yeah I wonder if its to do with AMD. I'm using this on an NVIDIA card so that might be why it's working so well for me.
Just bought it. Cannot wait to try it out!!
Let me know what you think :)
thx my friend, from brazil 🇧🇷, now i can flight in Sao Paulo with 60 fps, tomorrow i will into in your discord
Achei um brazuca aqui, me diz uma coisa, eu não entendi esse vídeo, como ele ganhou FPS?
Sounds good! :)
@@leandrobaz6816 com um app que gera fps por IA, muito bom, testei e recomendo, nao modifica os graficos e consegue te dar fluidez no simulador
@@muriloschmidtt bom dia, obrigado por me responder, comprei pela steam e instalei e segui a instruções do vídeo, porém, não notei nada de diferença em frames, apliquei em modo janela, e não notei nada, aliás eu observei é uma redução de qualidade gráfica, mas FPS continuo igual.
@@leandrobaz6816 aaa, ele só funciona em tela cheia
Great video! I cant wait to try this out. I already get ~40-60 frames so maybe I'll see some triple digits lol.
Yep you probably will! :)
Thank you for this! Question: how were you able to make your XP green number data pop in and out without going through the output menu? Thanks in advanced.
Thank you! I did this using the key binding ctrl + shift + f :)
hey great video, I fly much better now! Could I ask what addons you use?
Thank you! :)
I will make a list tomorrow and add it to a section in my discord :)
Recommend any settings changes with their latest update?
At the moment I am still using the same settings I mentioned in this video :)
@@DrishalMAC2 thanks!
Well I'm going to try this and see how it goes!
Let me know what you think :)
Thanks very much for your excellent and clear explanation of how it works. Does XP need to be in windowed mode or is that only if you want to use scaling factors?
Thank you for the kind words :)
X-Plane can be in fullscreen as X-Plane fullscreen is actually windowed borderless behind the scenes. :) hope this helps
@@DrishalMAC2 Absolutely mate. Thanks ever so much. Just about to fire it up now!
Good luck :) happy flying!
2 questions... does it work in XP-11 AND XP-12? and where did you get that "CUDA " livery for the ZIBO? I LOVE IT!
Yes it will work in virtually any sim or game. I tried it in MSFS, F123 and some other games and it worked very well.
And the CUDA livery is my channel livery haha. Will upload it to the forum soon :)
Question I have 3 monitors one running the sim, the other one for simbrief, i cant move to the other screen has me like locked into the sim window anyway to adjust this? cheers
Multi-display mode should help which, and turn "clip cursor" on from the lossless scaling settings :) that should help
Hey Drishal (I'm indeed looking to have the best fps possible haha x), is it great for VR ? I've tried using FSR but it looks HORRIBLE in VR haha, any thoughts ?
I'm not too sure if this works in VR. Some people reported it does and some report it doesn't. Sorry I couldn't be of more help aha. Lossless will work very well for regular monitors though :)
@@DrishalMAC2 I'll give it a try! I don't mind spending some euro and it will probably be useful for some others sim or games!
Let me know how it goes :)
@@DrishalMAC2 Sure thing! :D
If I'm getting 150 FPS with Frame Gen ON and I'm doing screen capture, Shadow Play only records at 60 FPS and about half of those frames are generated . This makes the recordings look way more choppy than just standard 60 FPS non FG Capture. Is there no system in place where Shadow play would only capture real Frames?
Read the comments. Looks like it wont record with Nvidia shadowplay… OBS it is!
Yes it will only work woth obs not not out of the box. I will be releasing a video today on how to do it :)
mind if you share your XP settings? i always experience in a bad bottleneck on the cpu sometimes its good 30-50fps, sometimes its going to lock to 22fps no matter how i set the graphics settings, thanks!
Yes I will do :) tomorrow I will add a settings and specs page to my discord :)
@@DrishalMAC2 Thanks!!
@@DrishalMAC2 i figured out what causes the fps lock to 22, i always fly on vatsim, and i try deactivate the contrails and it works!! my fps is stable again.
@omac1179 ah fantastic! Yes I've heard contrails causes lots of issues :)
Did you mod your zibo 737 textures in the cockpit? They look really sharp!
Nope those are standard textures. I do have RCAS I'm the xp settings on max
What u use to make xplane look like that, mine is super default
In terms of graphics my XP is pretty much default other than for Ortho4XP, Simheaven and Global forests. The lighting and everything else is default. I'm also using TaiModels EGLL and Orbx True Earth GB XP12 :)
@@DrishalMAC2 do u mind sharing ur graphics settings
Yes I will do in the morning :) can you ping me on discord?
@@DrishalMAC2 just added u 77flyer
Great stuff, thanks 🙏 what’s your cpu/gpu combo, and screen res, just for reference?
I have an i5-12400f, RTX3070ti and I'm running at 1080p :)
Great vid!
Thank you for showing me! :)
i have a problem every time i get on xplane and then starts scaling the game crashes
Have you tried the installing lossless scaling?
@@DrishalMAC2 i managed to get it to work but it still doesnt have great performance i only get around 18 fps. Still i think it is descent because without it i get around 5-7 fps. there a way to get even more fps through lossless scaling?
@REX-uf7rm no that's way too low native fps to use lossless scaling. You need at least 20 -30 fos normally before lossless scaling will work really well. What are you pc specs and graphic settings?
@@DrishalMAC2 graphics card rtx 3050 ti i5-11300H and 8 gb RAM and game setting: texture quality high ambient occlusiion high rendering resolution off antia aliasing FXAA antisotropic filtering 4x cloud quality medium shadow quality medium rendering distance high world object density high vegetation density high
Ok you definitely need to run those settings down. Probably to low or minimum otherwise you'll struggle for fps
Does this work in full screen mode or do you have to be windowed?
This does work in fullscreen as fullscreen in XP is actually windowed borderless. :) hope this helps
hi, but if I install Lossless scaling in another Steam account where there is no xplane does it still work? Because in the steam account where I have xp12 I can't buy anything, so I made another one
Yes it will still work. I use lossless scaling on my XP which isn't the steam version and it still works :) just make sure your steam account is set to your X-Plane one when loading X-Plane and then load lossless scaling using the shortcut created rather than inside steam
@@DrishalMAC2 thank you, i’ll try❤️
thank you it works, but is it normal that every 2/3 minutes it jerks for 3 seconds and then stabilizes again?
What are your system specs?
@@DrishalMAC2 i7-3770 CPU, NVIDIA geforce gtx 1070, gb32 RAM
How you did to enable record video while Lossless Scaling is able?
You have to fiddle around with OBS a bit. I will release a video tomorrow on how to do this. It's quite difficult to explain over text format. Is this OK?
@@DrishalMAC2 Sounds good thanks! I still recording with Nvidia Geforce Experience and unfortunately can't record while using Lossless Scaling Program
Yeah Nvidia Experiance won't work. You'll have to use OBS :)
@@DrishalMAC2 Great! nice to know :)
The frame generation works but a bit skeptical on this. You mentioned that in the sim, its framerate is 30 but the output on the display is 60. My question is will this counteract the above 20 fps rule on Vatsim?
Vatsim will still detect the old framerate but as long as you have more than 20 native frames you won't get disconnected. I recommend having at least 30 native frames anyway so the frame gen works the best :)
Hey thanks for sharing this amazing mod I will purchase it tomorrow but can you tell me what specs u have and settings your xplane 12 is on to?
Yes, I have a i5-12400f, Rtx3070ti, 23gb ddr4 RAM.
And in this video my settings where maxed out other than, AA and textures which were on medium :)
@@DrishalMAC2 Thank you so much dude ill be trying it out today 😄
Have fun mate :)
It doesn't work, when I run the program the game screen is completely black and the PC slows down, I set the configuration as you explain
Ok try these:
- Make sure you don't have any overlay on like steam, discord or nvidia
- try with v-sync on and off in the lossless scaling settings
- try changing the scaling mode from aspect ratio to full screen
If none of these work then let me know
@@DrishalMAC2 What do you mean by superposition, if I open lossless scaling it automatically opens steam, I tried v sync On and OFF and it doesn't solve
By overlay I mean like steam fps counter or something like that. Its OK to have steam on in the background
@@DrishalMAC2 No, I don't have any of that, the black screen continues
And you tried changing the scaling mode right?
how does this work with vatsim? does vatsim follow the ACTUAL fps or the one generated by lossless scaling? since the minimum fps for vatsim in xplane is 20fps
Unfortunately vatsim will still detect the actual FPS rather than the Frame Gen fps. This is really more of a visual fps increase
@@DrishalMAC2 ah okay i understand, guess i will have to wait for improvements by laminar themselves, or until i buy a new pc lol
Haha yep. Hopefully the Laminar performance improvements come soon :)
Does this work with Gsync and VRR?
I'm not sure since I don't have a Gsync monitor. Sorry. If you do find out please let me know, it would be great information :)
Is there one for Mac?
Not that I know of unfortunately
when did you find this out/ have you been doing this in streams?
I just found this out today so made a video quickly
I tried it and it crashed my sim, when I switched to using my second monitor.
Did you use the multi display mode?
@@DrishalMAC2 Oh shoot i’ll try that thanks
@@DrishalMAC2 where is that cant find it, sorry old timer here
In the lossless scaling settings it should he at the bottom right when you scroll down :)
Thx man
this is a visual effect, not fps generator, i still have less than 20 fps in game but with this app i get 60, i know because i m being disconnected from vatsim due to bad fps
This is because vatsim detects native fps not frame generation fps. This is still frame generation
Hello, does it work on mac M1 Pro ?
No unfortunately not :(
does it work on mac?
No unfortunately
Does this work with a 60hz monitor?
Yes it will work but you won't see anything more than 60fps
I have a 60hz monitor also and it will cap out 60 fps.
Will it also work in xp11 ?
Yes
This works in any game
Yep, you are correct :)
That's mean that we can get 4090ti just for $7 bucks!? ))
Haha yeah it's crazy! A super super cheap upgrade :)
@@DrishalMAC2 I can't believe that it truly works! Thanks a lot!
@@DrishalMAC2 Only one thing is bothering me it's a cursor a little bit lugging... Maybe you know how fix that? Thx!
Hi, yes I have the same thing. It's one downside. One thing you could do to help is turn the "scale cursor" setting on :)
is the app a stand alone or does it go into xp12?
Stand alone. It works with most other sims and games too
@@DrishalMAC2 thank you i installed the app on the desk top but it has no files in it. very strange
What do you mean it has no files? Can you open the app?
@@DrishalMAC2 iopen the app and it gives me an error about no executable file
Are you opening it from the steam app or from a desktop shortcut?
Would it work for P3D?
Yes i dont see why not :)
@@DrishalMAC2 damn ur quick! Thanks :)
Haha no worries :)
Anyone tried in VR?
I would be very interested to see how well it works in VR. Keep me posted if you find out :)
It seems to make my sim run less frames, any ideas?
Have you copied all my settings? And are you sure you scaled XP and nothing else?
@@DrishalMAC2 Yeah my settings are a picture copy of yours, i'll try again and let you know in 15, many thanks for your quick response.
@@DrishalMAC2 Yes and yes. Am i able to seek help on your discord?
Yes definitely :) feel free to join!
Same. When I'm in the cockpit view on the ground it get less than my native fps. It works in the outside view though
What if you don’t have Xplane through Steam?
This works for any copy of xplane and any app
@@DrishalMAC2. So would still buy it with steam and have it work on the background as a plug in ?
Yes buy it on steam and just run it in the background as I showed in the video :)
thanks, i got 300 fps
Haha really wow! :)
Bro, I have bad PC setup, I play on a laptop, 32 GB of RAM, AMD R5 5600H and RTX 3050 4 GB, in X-Plane 12 I have only around 30 FPS, my GPU is dying due to 4 GB of VRAM. What do you think, will this program help me? Should I expect 50-60 FPS with that stuff?
It may help but this does also slightly increase VRAM usage so might cause even more issues. The good thing is that with steam I believe you can refund the program as long as you haven't used it for too long so you could try it out and then refund it if it doesn't help.
Just tried it and it worked wonderfully! So smooth now. Had to turn off desktop record on GeForce Experience to get Shadowplay to record, but that is no big deal at all.
The difference is night and day! Truly fantastic!! Thx!!
Glad it's working well for you :)
On VATSIM, there is a threshold of 20 FPS, with the frame gen showing more than that, would that effect the threshold set at 20?
Does it also effect the controling with the flightmodel?
Hi, no the flight model won't be affected but I still recommend being above 20 or ideally thirty native fps for this to work at its best. And vatsim will detect the native fps not the frame gen fps so you will still need to be above the 20fps native threshold
anything like this for the Mac platform? (I can hear your laughter)
Unfortunately not, that I know of. A shame really, hopefully someone make something similar for it :)
Good stuff Drishal. Been using this for a few days and it's a real game changer!
Yeah it really is! Have fun mate! :)
do you have any camera addons? or just default xplane?
Nope in terms of the camera it's all default :)
@@DrishalMAC2 Thanks!!!
I subbed just because of this video, it definitely works, it's super easy to setup following your instruction and I'm honestly impressed. Thank you so much for bringing attention to this.
Thank you! I really do appreciate this! Glad your enjoying it :)
Im breaking my head here, dunno why it gives me all the time 60/60 any setting im doing wrong? shouldn't be like 60/120? cheers
What refresh rate is your monitor? If you have 60hz monitor then it will automatically cap the frame gen frames at that refresh rate.
@@DrishalMAC2 Ah i guess must be that, not sure where to see that but must be that, its one of those curve monitors from samsung 27", so is lossless really working for me? or no point? thanks agains mate!
You can check the refresh rate of the monitor in your windows display settings :) lossless scaling is really useful if you can't achieve an fps which is close to your monitor refresh rate, like if you are on 30 fps with a 60hz refresh rate. I have a 144hz monitor so I can jump from 60 to 120 which is really super smooth :) hope this helps.
@@DrishalMAC2 Yup just went online to look for the specs of the monitor this sucks haha its only 60, for some reason the options gives me 75 oh well, so no point running lossles right? or do i get any benefit?
Yeah no point really :) unless you upgrade your monitor. Lucky to have a already capable system :)
I have a i9 13th Gen CPU so I do not think I need this, but its a good idea for people who have a less powerful CPU. I get great FPS already, even with two monitors connected. If I was to build a new PC and have to choose my components again I would still prefer a top end CPU as before, and pay more money. This is because its better for fast-paced games, offers a more natural look (no capture and re-imaging) and does not require a third party addon. Thats just my opinion!
Yes absolutely. A high end CPU is probably the most important peice of hardware for X-Plane especially :)
After watching this video, I purchased it and all I can say is wow. I have xplane 12 and I went and loaded up KLAX airport where I was averaging around 27 fps with settings on high but not maxed out. With this program running I now get 55 to 60 fps average at KLAX with settings on high ( I have a 60hz monitor so I won't go above 60 fps). Nothing glitches or freezes, it just works for me and for 6 dollars it was worth it. I won't be upgrading my video card anytime soon after this. Give it a try for 6 dollars and see if it works for you.
Glad ti's working for you! :) happy flying my friend!
hi this is great, can you make an updated turtorial on installing X-Plane Map Enhancement for 1.0.5
Hi there, has the install changed? I have moved to AutoOrtho now so haven't been keeping up with map enhancement.
Does someone using Cessna 172 REP having a really the following strange behavior? As soon as a start the flight, with shut off engine, the aircraft seems to go in full "tow mode", gains speed and then crashes...the normal C172 works fine.
Hello, if you want you can post this question in my discord. I knew there is many people there who use the REP who may be able to help :) link is in the description
Is this application suitable for rtx 4xxx cards?
Yes :)
Does this work for VR via Virtual Desktop and VDXR?
I'm not sure for vr and virtual desktop as I haven't tried it. And I'm not sure what VDXR is :)
Does your cursor lag and blink when using it?
It lags a little bit but for me it's not bad. It doesn't blink though
Hi, does anyone know if there is Mac support?
No unfortunately not. This is windows only.
I tried using the frame gen for x plane and it took frames... Did I do something wrong?
What is your native normal fps?
@@DrishalMAC2 like 40s but the frame gen gets less like example 47/32
Wow that's weird. Have you tried with v-sync off and on in the lossless scaling settings. And are your settings exactly the same as mine?
@@DrishalMAC2 followed your instructions to a T never use Vsync
Ok try with v-sync enabled. You can also try changing your scaling type from aspect ratio to full screen
thanks for this- i have tried these settings, but it looks really washed out with crazy contrast- any ideas??
Huh that's weird? Maybe try changing the scaling mode to fullscreen rather than aspect ratio?
@@DrishalMAC2 Thanks for the reply i found the issue! It was HDR being enabled in windows. So for anyone having this problem turn on the HDR support toggle in the program or disable HDR (win+alt+b). Thanks for this video, its an awesome program
Ah amazing! Great job :) happy flying!
Very nice thanks for this
Does this have any effect on cpu/gpu temps
I've not noticed any increased temps myself. As long as you have decent cooling you should be good :)
@@DrishalMAC2 Awesome!
I see only 50 or 69 fps max, where are the 100 fps you said?
It depends on your native fps. What is your native fps normally? This will double or triple your fps so if you have 30fps normally you will get 60 or 90. I got 100 frames at times because my native fps is sometimes higher.
@@DrishalMAC2 in xplane I use 3jfps plugin to get barely 30 fps…where can I get this program?
@@DrishalMAC2 but also with high settings and very busy airports?
I see. This program can be bought from the link in the description :)
Is that a PC12 on the thumbnail?
Nope it's the Aerobask Epic E1000 :) similar though
@@DrishalMAC2 Ah okay
can i use it for msfs
Yes I tried it with MSFS this morning and it worked very well!
A shame Laminar is unwilling or unable to rpovide modern framegen methods. The "Next Generation" of flightsim is still bound to an outdated FSR1 which is horrible and none of modern Upscaling/framegen stuff is implemented. Nor do they plan to do so at the moment.
Actually they do plan to bring Frame Generation to X-Plane 12 and they are currently working towards it. I don't know how long it will take however.
Worked like a charm here. Thanks.
Brilliant! Glad to hear that! :)
Oh and your X-Plane Cleaner and Decal injector tools are great! Think I'll have to make a video on them :)
Hello 👋 what do you use to record?
OBS. I will have a video on how to record this coming out shortly :)
@@DrishalMAC2 Thank you! I was trying to showcase this trick on tiktok but I couldn’t find out how to record it. Your tutorials are the best 🤝
No worries :) thanks a lot!
I can't seem to get Lossless Scaling to work - it installed ok but do you have to link it to x-plane12 somehow? The fps counter dows not display either.... Thanks
You shouldn't have to link it. As long as your settings are the same as mine then you should just be able to go into XP with lossless scaling running and hit ctrl + Alt + s (with the XP window selected) and It should start the scaling.
@@DrishalMAC2 Thank you so much for responding. How do you select the XP window?
No worries :) when I say select the xp window I just mean being in XP and having it on your monitor, not minimised or in the background or anything.
@@DrishalMAC2 Got it! Not sure what I was doing wrong but it works now! Lossless does seem to funk out Visualxp though...
Ah glad it's working :)
I've stopped using visualxp in 12.1 as it was causing me many issues and giving me lots of errors in the log. Might have to do some more testing with it I'm beta 7
Dose it work with VR?
As far as I know, no. But I haven't been able to test it in VR myself
@@DrishalMAC2 thanks mate.
No worries. If you do try it let me know how it goes :)
Stable 60 FPS at last on my machine.
Brilliant! Are you using it in VR?
@@DrishalMAC2 I didn't come around to test it - but I want to find out.
@@MarcusInVR if you do let me know how it goes :) been asked a lot if it works in VR :)
@@DrishalMAC2 I can now confirm this tool also works well in VR. Getting 35 FPS on a Pico 4 with unchanged non-VR settings, and native resolution (2560 per eye).
Brilliant! Thanks for the info :)
Have you tried changing the same parameters in the nvidia control panel? All the options you are showing are in the control panel. You can create a profile for every game in it and you don't need any 3rd party application for it.
Are you talking about the options in Lossless scaling? Those options don't change X-Plane's settings they change the Frame Generation settings. Without Lossless Scaling this frame generation would not be possible :)
Definitely always worth tweaking the Nvidia control panel settings as you can get quite a nice performance improvement improvement.
@@DrishalMAC2 Yes i'm talking about the options in Lossless scaling. Those are the same in the nvidia control panel.
The options have the same names but control different things. The options on the nvidia control panel will control those options for X-Plane 12, but the options in the lossless scaling app control the options for lossless scaling
@@DrishalMAC2 use what you want but lossless scaling is doing the same as you would changing those options in the nvidia control panel.
I think you miss understand what exactly lossless scaling does. When you activate it, lossless scaling provides frame generation which makes your sim look double or triple your native fps. This is not something you can do with the nvidia control panel.
I have been trying this for 2 days and it seems amazing! Cannot fly without this anymore lol
It really is amazing! Glad you are enjoying it :)