In my opinion, yes it definitely would help but, I only show what is theoretical & I always say in all videos that things can be improved with tinkering :) I don't show it normally because I test so many games & time is not something I have to spare :) This is an older video now so a lot of the flaws have been cleaned up since this version & starting with season 7, If I do find I had to modify anything to get a game to work via adjustable settings, I'll mention it but, ultimately this channel is not dedicated to fixing every issue that may crop up during videos, that'll be for you to experiment with :) Of course the internet is your best friend if you do need help with getting games to work properly or better on emulation!
I have a special soft spot for the games of the DC/PS2/GC/Xbox gen. The 3D capabilities got a huge boost over the previous gen, but it was still the pre-HD era, so budgets weren't too high and game devs could take more risks. I know DC and GC emulation is great, and PS2 emulation is looking good now too (I hear Xbox still needs a lot of work). Nice video
Thank you mate & I agree with everything you said :)) I love how PS2 emulation is coming along now and I'm more likely to use it since I want to know how much better my games can look!
my favorite gaming generation for all the same reasons. just enough freedom to keep everything fresh and just enough limitations to keep game devs inventive. i also find that because they were made for 480p and 720p, usually games from that era have better art styles and telegraph themselves better
Ps2 era was the best console gen because devs were willing to push the console to the absolute max and to work with its limitations by focusing on gameplay and artstyle and music. If the console can't handle your vision graphically, then make the game fun as F. And thats why this console was the best ever. The only thing that stands toe to toe with the ps2 is the ps1 😂
Haha I can definitely agree :) I always say the PS2 is more powerful than people think but yes, the system proved it's worth all thanks to a lot of now memorable and legendary games that managed to get released for it :)
And also, before the internet and updates era, the games needed to be ready on release. The thing i most miss nowdays is the ability to buy a game, put it on and just play it. I just can't stand the fact that you buy a game, get all excited to play just to got hit with a ridiculous big update patch
you can eliminate blurs and screen shakes in pcsx2 by set deinterlacing to none in gsdx and disable texture filtering of display in shaders configuration tab, and set wait vsync on refresh to standard in window configuration. these are common errors that majority of users have. and also there are "no-interlacing" patches avaliable in pcsx2 forums to remove interlacing permanently.
@@TheAffroShowGameplay i think i gave you some mixed up information. disable interlacing is only for games thats has any means to activate progressive scan, like ingame menu, boot button combo, or no-interlacing pnach patches. but for games that has no progressive scan by any method you should use bob tff. sorry for the confusion. and disabling screen filter only useful if you also disable texture filtering (nearest) and dont mind pixelated textures. and one last thing is to avoid odd resolution multiplier like 3x and 5x if you are running non progressive games.
I think I love the PS2 so much because of the way the architecture is set up. It is literally a PS1 on steroids made to compete with next generation PC vertex shaders employed in the Xbox and Gamecube (GC TEV was able to create the same effects as PC vertex shaders). The PS2s VPUs could create vertex shader like effects on software which is amazing. I think the main downfall (in design) was its release date of early 2000 because they couldn't put more ram on it an looking back the thing I love the most about the PS2 also made it really hard to program and create games in 2000/2001 until better tools came out. I am still amazed at the games that came out in 2001 though, GTA3, MGS2, Silent Hill 2, Ace Combat 4, FFX
The PS2 was where I would spend 11 years of my gaming life on, playing where possible! I've had mine since 2002 & not only is it still working, I still use it a fair bit today! The games, the power & the ease of modding one makes it a winner for me :)
@@TheAffroShowGameplay PS2 was a beast. I still have my white slim model and it works perfectly. I want to get a PS2 from japan to play some japanese ps2 exclusives.
Really makes me miss the PS2 days, even if the only games I really played on there was Tekken 5. Great job showing off the PS2 emulator! I might give it a try again because the last time I gave it a go, some games, like Ratchet and Clank really didn't work so well on there!
@@TheAffroShowGameplay I prefer to play PS1 games on emulator but PS2 on console. Some PS2 games take alot of resources to emulate (eg Valkyrie Profile 2) it is still too cost intensive,i feel like wasting my PC hardware and it doesn't make use of the GPU, not really anyway. And with PS1 games the improvement you get graphic wise is much bigger (and more needed). Then you have the issue that some PS2 games dont emulate well enough (Marvel vs Capcom 2) But i love emulators and PCSX2 is still awesome, its really impressive and i appreciate the designers putting so much time in it. Also the PSP emulator is great too. Great videos mate.
@@TheAffroShowGameplay same even the games that did get remasters like devil may cry 3 I just play on original ps2 also a shit ton of underrated games I want to play genji Dawn of the samurai and Tenchu 3 wrath of heaven are the most underrated ps2 Games I played so far onimusha series 1,2,3,4 and legacy of kain series I want to play too so much more castlevania games, shadow of Rome, shinobi, way of the samurai 1 and 2 and I don’t mind playing on ps2 hardware even tho emulator has stronger power nothing beats playing on ps2 ecpecially those save icons in the menu 🤤
@@mathieuwiersma1660 same man ps1 just easier to emulate and I never grew up with it so I don’t have much nostalgia for ps1 and games on there getting to expensive I do have some physical ps1 tho like bushido blade, Tenchu 1 and 2 wich ya I beat 3 recently wich is on ps2 love the series now and tekken 3 wich the tekkens on ps2 were my childhood and when I played Tekken 3 i wanted to get physical cause I really loved it
There is no point these days to use real PS2 hardware. Only for nostalgic reasons. PCSC2 emulation makes PS2 games shine like never before. So much better experience.
While I agree that emulation is awesome & I definitely am glad there's great PS2 emulation options, I'll always have a reason for owning a PS2, every game works & I don't need to adjust settings if a game doesn't play nice the first time but that's just me xD
@crocodilegamer93 This is interesting because I play both real hardware and PCSX2 & I never have a problem playing both :o Makes me wonder of there's something going on with how our displays handle emulation or some other factor I'm not aware of!
I can't recall ever having a problem running DOA2, other than the fact that the voices didn't work, which was a known problem. As for the sky not showing up in Black, the same thing happens in many of the Burnout games, so it might be worth trying the fix that works in those games: Press F9 while in the menus to switch to software rendering, then start the game. Once in the game, press F9 again to switch back to hardware rendering. If it works, it should stay fixed for that session. This fix also works on the game Portal Runner to fix some missing graphics.
@@TheAffroShowGameplay I'd be curious if it works for Black. I know it works in Burnout 3, Burnout Revenge and Burnout Dominator as well as Portal Runner. The Burnout games have a black sky if you don't do this before you start the game, but once you do, it stays fixed for that session. BTW, you don't need to do it right at the start for it to work. If you forget and start the game, you can quit to the menu and then do it before starting the game again. In Portal Runner, I believe the gems were missing textures and when using the bow, the aiming reticle didn't show up.
software mode on pcsx2 looks the same as a real ps2 if you put the tv shader at triangular filter and you can use auto flush if you experience glitches
Only problem is Software mode is not nearly as optimised & I only had a few games where I needed it, the settings I used in this video actually gave me the best results but I'll keep this in mind :)
@@TheAffroShowGameplay ya like compared to other games like jak 3 on ps2 on modern tv it still look bad even in 480p I might look into getting ossc and mclassic but I heard about them making ossc pro
Here are some tips for setting up PCSX2. To reduce micro stuttering just enable vsync in pcsx2 settings put it to standard, if you have any glitches in games i would suggest opengl software and put threads to how much your CPU have threads. That's the most easiest explanation I can give for overall settings in pcsx2, and to get that real ps2 image turn on scanlines in shader configuration.If anybody need help and detailed tutorial on this matter I can make one.Lets just say i know a thing or two about emulation.Hope it helps
I appreciate that although most of that was already enabled in my video :) Vsync wasn't so I'll definitely try turning it on ^^ I was already using OpenGL in this video & I'm someone who personally doesn't care for scanlines since I want to upscale PS2 games but that is personal preference of course ^^ Thank you for the heads up though :)
@@TheAffroShowGameplay No problem dude.Its a combination of things i dont want to get to much detailed but software mode fixes always all the issues but you need to have good cpu with good instruction set i prefer scanlines for the games that uses the software mode.Games that are playable in hardware mode dont need scanlines,like you said you want to upscale them,but for those games that have glitches and are broken in hardware mode use software mode plus scanlines ,because resolution is 512x512 or 640x480 if the game have progressive scan option.Most of people say it look terrible thats way you have to enable scanlines to mask the low resolution .That is what sony did back in ps2 era .Love your content by the way .Good look with the channel and have a good one :D
PS2 games still look awesome, they're not worse looking then modern graphics, it's just a different flavour in artstyle imo. Sometimes i even prefer PS2 graphics over more modern, for example Soul Calibur 2 looks just better than the newer ones. theyre much more colourful. BTW, you can get better results with scanlines through reshade for emulator or with a HW scanline generator for console. You can get a pretty decent one for around 30 euro.
Mathieu Wiersma I love the PS2 I also think the games on it look amazing 😁 Im not really into scanlines to be honest, I think they can enhance 2D games but for me they aren’t something I look for 😂
@@TheAffroShowGameplay They act like some form of anti-aliasing. I hear people complain sometimes about ps1 graphics, only to discover they aren't using scanlines. If you like the graphics without them that's also fine with me. As long as people aren't degrading the graphics and then complain about them lol
@@TheAffroShowGameplay Its fine on a CRT TV which has scanlines built into it but on an LCD tv the graphics on some games look way different (3D becomes too jaggy). If its on a CRT, i don't really notice RGB vs non-RGB as much. Especially not compated to CRT vs LCD. But with scanlines through emulator or a scanline generator for a LCD screen is looks pretty much like a CRT, the way it was intended.
Agreed with Tekken 4. Tekken 7 is a great competitive fighting game, but leaves a lot to be desired as pure Tekken game. Tekken 4 and 5DR feel more fluid than Tekken 7
Besides the hassle, what is the cost difference between the two ways of playing PS2 games (other than having a good enough PC for the emulator)? I love that great emulators are around. They help to preserve the playing of the many amazing games on PS2.
The obvious cost is compatibility, every ps2 & ps1 game will work on a real ps2 whereas PCSX2 emulation is not perfect yet & a beefy pc is needed :p Emulation is amazing & should be experienced but for me personally I'll always love using real hardware:)
The Affro Show going to have agree some games still have buggy graphics and some run slow I have great pc that can play ps2 games but sometimes I hate configuring options for games so I’ll just stick to my modded ps2 and jailbroken backwards compatible ps3 more but sometime those games look so damn good on pc
@@LeoDynasty95 Its not quite there yet & you definitely will curse the settings as you need to change them all the time xD But it should be experienced if possible and I hope that the compatibility gets better xD
PCSX2 has a long way to go. Many games still don't render correctly. I want to play Ace Combat series very bad, but it is a no go because they have to be played with software mode renderer which disables resolution scaling. PS3 is better I think because many PS2 games were remastered there with upscaled resolution, improved texture, and proper widescreen support.
Speaking of PS2 sounds, is it normal for there to be grinding-like noises from the laser when playing some games? It only happens with some of them and only in certain parts (for example, it's only audible in Rocky: Legends in the training segments or in SpongeBob BFBB during dialog). Some games run perfectly fine with no grinding sounds at all, other than the loading screens...
Unfortunately I have no idea, mine does this too, it is 20 years old though so maybe the laser in some games is used more to read data :) I'm not the best for diagnostics for these machines lool
@@TheAffroShowGameplay I don't think anyone is. These PS2s are temperamental A-holes. The games don't lag though so I guess it's fine... Thanks for your time.
If you love the PS2, get a DVDO iScan that accepts component video and a HDMI mCable. Both combined gives 480i a progressive look much better than the OSSC or RetroTINK 5X.
To fix Black's no sky, set the emulator to software mode and start the game in software mode, then once you are in game you can change back to hardware mode. Black also has other issues more annoying than a black sky, you can sometimes get stuck around stuff. That being said, PCSX2 is amazing. There's also RPCS3 which has had huge improvements in the past months.
If a game doesn't display correctly you can just set it to software mode, chances are it will fix all issues and still run at 100% speed. Granted it will then look like the actual ps2 hardware but some cpu based AA filters can help with the jaggies.
software mode won't magically "make it look like actual ps2 hardware" lol. If you want proof of that go and try out a game on pcsx2 in software mode on an actual crt, and compare it with an actual ps2 on the same crt, the emulator looks worse than an actual ps2.
I did test this theory out & you are right, even on my 4K display using 480i/576i native on PS2, it looked better on the real PS2 than the software mode of PCSX2, there the same 480i/576i was very blurry :p
I don't really feel it does all that much for the price but, it's an option if you want to go for it :) The footage is plenty sharp with the OSSC in 480p 2x mode :)
Tekken 4 is beautiful now the graphics are literally amazing and aheds of its time but the anti aliasing is also really impressive I gotta say even playing tekken 4 on flat screen TV with crappy composite cables tekken 4 still looks amazing tekken 4 honestly more detailed then tekken 7 there’s more face detail and you can see more expressions on the characters then tekken 7 there was even a whole vid explaining it tekken 4 looks really amazing and is ps2 exclusive wich seems to be the case people who make the exclusives actually use the console to its full potential
@@TheAffroShowGameplay its good while playing gta. You can take a car and literally cruise in that by pressing the x with mild pressure. Its good feeling. Try it
On my 3080, PCSX2 is fucking amazing. I prefer to play it over my PS2 simply because of how annoying it is to get games on the phat PS2 HDD, and because not everything works with network boot on the slim PS2.
Its hard to get games going on the HD? you literally just grab the iso make sure the HD is plugged in your computer through USB and run the batch file, it takes seconds. Getting custom art work is for pussies
You gotta apply the CRT Shader option because the PS2 was played on a CRT TV back then. The graphic will never look good unless it's viewed as the creator intended.
I don't agree since I love the PS2 & playing it on my OSSC or the PCSX2 emulator is great & looks pretty good! If it's not for you or you like the CRT look no problem but, I like how it looks personally:)
@@TheAffroShowGameplay Of course it's all relative and personal taste but blowing up the res to 4k for ps2 games look so unnatural because the character and the background doesn't blend in (CRT shader helps). For PS3 games, it is quite ok because that's the era when we start using HD TVs & panels. But if you enjoy whatever that your doing I guess that's ok too.
You missed one of the biggest flaws on PCSX2 - input lag. And you can't solve this, the only way to get rid of it is to use software renderer, which means being stuck at native PS2 res + even worse image quality. So for faster, more reflex-intensive games like Devil May Cry, it's a huge deal breaker. Also, why the hell are you using bob deinterlacing with OSSC? It makes everything flicker and look super jaggy. My suggestion would be getting a TV with a built-in deinterlacer and using Passthrough. My Sony Bravia looks fantastic, and playing games on real PS2 hardware straight off HDD with OPL is amazing. PCSX2 does allow higher resolutions, sure, but haven't you noticed the washed out colours on all games you reviewed? Or the shadows rendering incorrectly (blocky shadows) in DOA2? (2:29) Again, yes, PCSX2 does improve the resolution, but it also makes everything look flat and dull, adds input lag on Hardware modes, and some games look completely different, have missing/incorrect textures, post-processing and other stuff that really hurts the overall look. Games like MGS3, DMC3, God of War, Matrix: Path of Neo and so on are particularly affected. That's due to OpenGL/DirectX renderer's poor handling of PS2 graphics.
I just to let you know that in my personal experience using the Vulcan API, I didn't experience input lag at all :) I'm not saying there wasn't any & I'm sure it'll depend on a number of factors but these games never once felt laggy, the same for my updated video on this same topic :) I did notice the colour washed out but again, in my newer video I corrected that to a better extent :) I love real PS2 Hardware too, hence why I'm glad to have decent deinterlacing via OBS through the OSSC I use on my 4K TV :) PCSX2 is not perfect but it's the best PS2 emulator for now :o
@@TheAffroShowGameplay Wait, PCSX2 has Vulkan? Since when? Also, I'm pretty sure any Hardware renderer causes input lag regardless, whether it's DirectX, OpenGL or Vulkan - no difference. :) You not experiencing input lag doesn't negate the fact it exists, or may exist. Particularly if you're playing slower, easier games, or 30 FPS titles - you may not feel it. Try something faster like God Hand or Devil May Cry 3, these games require high precision and reflexes, thus input lag is killer. I've played both for quite a few years on PCSX2 and have only recently discovered just how much my gameplay was impacted by the lag, it's a serious bottleneck in one's ability. The moment I switched to software renderer, losses turned to victories, as I felt the inputs sync completely with the on-screen action. You may barely feel it, but it's a huge deal in any game requiring skill and speed.
Yeah it does support it :) As I said in my comment, I didn't feel or notice it but as I also said that doesn't mean lag isn't there :) I've played all sorts of games that were both faced paced or slower placed & not once did I feel input lag but that's probably just me. Maybe I'm less susceptible to or something but, take what I say with a grain of salt :)
@@TheAffroShowGameplay I guess you haven't been playing enough. :) When you play something like DMC3 on Very Hard, New Game, Turbo mode (which speeds up the game by 20%, thus narrowing your windows of opportunity and forcing to play faster), and you know your skills by heart, losing an encounter you could totally win on software mode is more than enough evidence to suggest the lag is there. I also advise looking up PCSX2 input lag videos on TH-cam, I believe there's one with God Hand. Someone tested real hardware vs PCSX2 and the difference is game-changing. Hardware modes feel really sluggish. But for slow games like Silent Hill, the difference is negligible. I've been using PCSX2 since 2014 but have ditched it since I got OSSC. The glitches and rendering mismatches are no more. :)
That's the beauty of games though, people get choices & not everyone for better or worse wants to invest in real hardware (Obviously I do I love playing on real systems :)) I do love emulation because they give us ideas on what's possible & to give us an alternative experience which I like ^^
Yes the colours on real hardware are much better but again, you can actually fix that on emulation since you can adjust the colour saturation & contrast:) On the OSSC I was using component cables ^^
0:24 someone understands the ps2 graphics style is amazing I hate all these ps2 remakes lately there basically shitting on the classics it makes me sick that crapcom want to make resident evil 4 remake when the games perfect
@@vergil1155 ya about that shadow of the colossus and demon souls remake are dog shit but I’m not gonna get all cope on you to why it sucks all I’m gonna say is when I say all remakes suck I mean it
@@armorwolf7934 idk what was so bad about it? SOTC remake was literally a copy of the original with updated graphics and controls. Some areas might look different but that is about it. Idk about demon souls because I haven't played it yet.
Well there's an updated version of this video & I also have one for 2022 so things have improved ^^ I actually find it's better in software for compatibility but hardware does allow for great upscaling :) The choice is yours if you want accuracy or better graphics :)
Too bad the HD Version of Soul Calibur II did away the Japanese audio especially when you have both Heihachi and Spawn on both PS3 and XBOX 360 Versions. Also the old XBOX Version can't have BOTH HD and true Widescreen Format at the same time. 🙁
Ah as an English player the lack of Japanese voices never bothered me personally but that's me xD True but 4:3 looks fine & 720p looks amazing despite that for the old Xbox ::) Still, PS2 version for me all the way 🤣
@@TheAffroShowGameplay Well the first Soul Calibur even in the west only have the Japanese voice overs. Luckily for me I have some understanding of the Japanese language. Siegfried Schaffan and Yoshimitsu (From SCI-III) are both voiced by Nobuyuki Hayami who's also Link's voice from Ocarina of Time, Super Smash Bros. plus Melee and even in Soul Calibur II for the Nintendo Gamecube Version! Daisuke Gori has been Heihachi Mishima's since the Tekken Anime and Tekken 3 including the Soul Calibur II Version up to Tekken 6 before he passed away in early 2010 unfortunately.
@@ElricSowrd Here in PAL territories we got English subtitles hence I can't speak or read Japanese 🤣🤣 That's pretty cool! Ah that sucks, that is a real shame:/
well.. Call me a lazy player, but I prefer to use my PC and play all my games like this...! I'm tired to take out my Dreamcast, then my PS2 or my SNES in order to play those machines..... (the Mrs don't like the "mess" around the TV set....) .
They can be if you use software rendering or use native resolution, however upscaling as seen in the video can change things & of course there's other enhancements to consider too :)
Original ps2 is way better. A lot of games gonna be buggy on emulator, for me is unplayable. Original ps2 otherwise is full compatible with all ps2 games, with no problems, glitchs or bugs
Well I agree but I do like emulation in the sense that I get to see high res PS2 games, for me personally emulation has worked fairly well although as you said it won't replace my real PS2 anytime soon ;p
@@Alexandre-fh2bl While I agree I don't think its fair since not everyone can get a decent PC just yet & to be fair While I have a decent PC myself not every game I tried worked even with tinkering so, I think you are luckier than most :)
@@TheAffroShowGameplay Ive tried some games on the pcsx2 and i indeed noticed very bad input lag. But as i don't have the original ps2 gamesm i can't really compare. Maybe those specific titles had that feeling too on the og hardware...
The games used in my testing in this video had no added lag from playing from real hardware to the emulator so I'm not sure why you are getting lag, hopefully you can find an answer out there or maybe a setting in the emulator is causing the problem :o
Ah fair enough xD I even checked the tags of my video and there's no mention of Dobiestation at all! Thanks to your outburst though, I now have a PS2 emulator to possibly check out in the future lol xD
It can & does support CD's though and it doubles as a CD player as some PS2 games did come on the CD format ;) I know it's a DVD drive but you'll be surprised at the support for legacy disks :)
I hope you enjoy this video! ^^ This one was very interesting to make :)
this was an amazing video, comrade
I can confirm that in every instance a simple settings tweak would have resulted in much higer fidelity and stability.
This is why knowledge always helps although sometimes you have to wait for someone to come up and tell you xD
Could you maybe help me out?
@jrrrrrr1122 isn't it better for them to know that it can be improved then?
In my opinion, yes it definitely would help but, I only show what is theoretical & I always say in all videos that things can be improved with tinkering :)
I don't show it normally because I test so many games & time is not something I have to spare :)
This is an older video now so a lot of the flaws have been cleaned up since this version & starting with season 7, If I do find I had to modify anything to get a game to work via adjustable settings, I'll mention it but, ultimately this channel is not dedicated to fixing every issue that may crop up during videos, that'll be for you to experiment with :)
Of course the internet is your best friend if you do need help with getting games to work properly or better on emulation!
I have a special soft spot for the games of the DC/PS2/GC/Xbox gen. The 3D capabilities got a huge boost over the previous gen, but it was still the pre-HD era, so budgets weren't too high and game devs could take more risks. I know DC and GC emulation is great, and PS2 emulation is looking good now too (I hear Xbox still needs a lot of work). Nice video
Thank you mate & I agree with everything you said :)) I love how PS2 emulation is coming along now and I'm more likely to use it since I want to know how much better my games can look!
my favorite gaming generation for all the same reasons. just enough freedom to keep everything fresh and just enough limitations to keep game devs inventive. i also find that because they were made for 480p and 720p, usually games from that era have better art styles and telegraph themselves better
Ps2 era was the best console gen because devs were willing to push the console to the absolute max and to work with its limitations by focusing on gameplay and artstyle and music. If the console can't handle your vision graphically, then make the game fun as F. And thats why this console was the best ever. The only thing that stands toe to toe with the ps2 is the ps1 😂
Haha I can definitely agree :) I always say the PS2 is more powerful than people think but yes, the system proved it's worth all thanks to a lot of now memorable and legendary games that managed to get released for it :)
And also, before the internet and updates era, the games needed to be ready on release. The thing i most miss nowdays is the ability to buy a game, put it on and just play it.
I just can't stand the fact that you buy a game, get all excited to play just to got hit with a ridiculous big update patch
This is what i was looking for, Great video!
There's an updated version of this video if you want to see more results ^^
you can eliminate blurs and screen shakes in pcsx2 by set deinterlacing to none in gsdx and disable texture filtering of display in shaders configuration tab, and set wait vsync on refresh to standard in window configuration. these are common errors that majority of users have. and also there are "no-interlacing" patches avaliable in pcsx2 forums to remove interlacing permanently.
Thank you for letting me know, I shall try this out & see if it works for me :)
@@TheAffroShowGameplay i think i gave you some mixed up information. disable interlacing is only for games thats has any means to activate progressive scan, like ingame menu, boot button combo, or no-interlacing pnach patches. but for games that has no progressive scan by any method you should use bob tff. sorry for the confusion. and disabling screen filter only useful if you also disable texture filtering (nearest) and dont mind pixelated textures. and one last thing is to avoid odd resolution multiplier like 3x and 5x if you are running non progressive games.
@@anuanukendoot8063 been playing around with these patches today, amazing results with Tekken tag and a few other games.
@@Velcrochicken1 yes I agree the de-interlace patches work great and tekken tag and tekken 5 look amazing!
I think I love the PS2 so much because of the way the architecture is set up. It is literally a PS1 on steroids made to compete with next generation PC vertex shaders employed in the Xbox and Gamecube (GC TEV was able to create the same effects as PC vertex shaders). The PS2s VPUs could create vertex shader like effects on software which is amazing. I think the main downfall (in design) was its release date of early 2000 because they couldn't put more ram on it an looking back the thing I love the most about the PS2 also made it really hard to program and create games in 2000/2001 until better tools came out. I am still amazed at the games that came out in 2001 though, GTA3, MGS2, Silent Hill 2, Ace Combat 4, FFX
The PS2 was where I would spend 11 years of my gaming life on, playing where possible!
I've had mine since 2002 & not only is it still working, I still use it a fair bit today! The games, the power & the ease of modding one makes it a winner for me :)
@@TheAffroShowGameplay PS2 was a beast. I still have my white slim model and it works perfectly. I want to get a PS2 from japan to play some japanese ps2 exclusives.
@@tHeWasTeDYouTh I say you are better off finding a modded PS2 then you could play games from any region ^^
Really makes me miss the PS2 days, even if the only games I really played on there was Tekken 5. Great job showing off the PS2 emulator! I might give it a try again because the last time I gave it a go, some games, like Ratchet and Clank really didn't work so well on there!
Yes I also gave up on the emulator for the same reason but it's definitely better & a few games that didn't work before now finally do :D
@@TheAffroShowGameplay I prefer to play PS1 games on emulator but PS2 on console. Some PS2 games take alot of resources to emulate (eg Valkyrie Profile 2) it is still too cost intensive,i feel like wasting my PC hardware and it doesn't make use of the GPU, not really anyway. And with PS1 games the improvement you get graphic wise is much bigger (and more needed).
Then you have the issue that some PS2 games dont emulate well enough (Marvel vs Capcom 2) But i love emulators and PCSX2 is still awesome, its really impressive and i appreciate the designers putting so much time in it. Also the PSP emulator is great too.
Great videos mate.
@@TheAffroShowGameplay same even the games that did get remasters like devil may cry 3 I just play on original ps2 also a shit ton of underrated games I want to play genji Dawn of the samurai and Tenchu 3 wrath of heaven are the most underrated ps2
Games I played so far onimusha series 1,2,3,4 and legacy of kain series I want to play too so much more castlevania games, shadow of Rome, shinobi, way of the samurai 1 and 2 and I don’t mind playing on ps2 hardware even tho emulator has stronger power nothing beats playing on ps2 ecpecially those save icons in the menu 🤤
@@mathieuwiersma1660 same man ps1 just easier to emulate and I never grew up with it so I don’t have much nostalgia for ps1 and games on there getting to expensive I do have some physical ps1 tho like bushido blade, Tenchu 1 and 2 wich ya I beat 3 recently wich is on ps2 love the series now and tekken 3 wich the tekkens on ps2 were my childhood and when I played Tekken 3 i wanted to get physical cause I really loved it
There is no point these days to use real PS2 hardware. Only for nostalgic reasons. PCSC2 emulation makes PS2 games shine like never before. So much better experience.
While I agree that emulation is awesome & I definitely am glad there's great PS2 emulation options, I'll always have a reason for owning a PS2, every game works & I don't need to adjust settings if a game doesn't play nice the first time but that's just me xD
@crocodilegamer93 This is interesting because I play both real hardware and PCSX2 & I never have a problem playing both :o
Makes me wonder of there's something going on with how our displays handle emulation or some other factor I'm not aware of!
@@crocodilegamer93 you need a better pc
"it shows full potential of emulation if it works " ❤️ i loved this line and instant sub ❤️❤️❤️
Thank you mate & I appreciate that :)
I can't recall ever having a problem running DOA2, other than the fact that the voices didn't work, which was a known problem.
As for the sky not showing up in Black, the same thing happens in many of the Burnout games, so it might be worth trying the fix that works in those games: Press F9 while in the menus to switch to software rendering, then start the game. Once in the game, press F9 again to switch back to hardware rendering. If it works, it should stay fixed for that session.
This fix also works on the game Portal Runner to fix some missing graphics.
I'll definitely try it & see if that fix works :) If so that would be great, just be aware I did an updated version of this video as well :)
@@TheAffroShowGameplay I'd be curious if it works for Black. I know it works in Burnout 3, Burnout Revenge and Burnout Dominator as well as Portal Runner.
The Burnout games have a black sky if you don't do this before you start the game, but once you do, it stays fixed for that session. BTW, you don't need to do it right at the start for it to work. If you forget and start the game, you can quit to the menu and then do it before starting the game again.
In Portal Runner, I believe the gems were missing textures and when using the bow, the aiming reticle didn't show up.
Let me introduce you to progressive scan codes...when I found about those my experience with pcsx2 changed completely.
That certainly sounds interesting :o
Please can you send us some links? where to got the cheat codes and use those 480p codes in PS2RD or patch the ISOs
@@mandibiedermann2246 no interlaced patches have been added into recent pcsx2 nightly builds! That's a huge feature imho.
@@gaetanoisgro6710 i mean cheat codes for the PS2 like widescreen codes and drow distance, they can be used in OPL option PS2RD
software mode on pcsx2 looks the same as a real ps2 if you put the tv shader at triangular filter and you can use auto flush if you experience glitches
Only problem is Software mode is not nearly as optimised & I only had a few games where I needed it, the settings I used in this video actually gave me the best results but I'll keep this in mind :)
Native Ps2 tekken 4 actually look really good it’s not even that much of a difference tbh considering how good tekken 4 look
There's a fair difference in my opinion but I do agree that Tekken 4 in 480p looks very good & I will do a video about 480p for PS2 games soon :)
@@TheAffroShowGameplay ya like compared to other games like jak 3 on ps2 on modern tv it still look bad even in 480p I might look into getting ossc and mclassic but I heard about them making ossc pro
Here are some tips for setting up PCSX2. To reduce micro stuttering just enable vsync in pcsx2 settings put it to standard, if you have any glitches in games i would suggest opengl software and put threads to how much your CPU have threads. That's the most easiest explanation I can give for overall settings in pcsx2, and to get that real ps2 image turn on scanlines in shader configuration.If anybody need help and detailed tutorial on this matter I can make one.Lets just say i know a thing or two about emulation.Hope it helps
I appreciate that although most of that was already enabled in my video :) Vsync wasn't so I'll definitely try turning it on ^^ I was already using OpenGL in this video & I'm someone who personally doesn't care for scanlines since I want to upscale PS2 games but that is personal preference of course ^^
Thank you for the heads up though :)
@@TheAffroShowGameplay No problem dude.Its a combination of things i dont want to get to much detailed but software mode fixes always all the issues but you need to have good cpu with good instruction set i prefer scanlines for the games that uses the software mode.Games that are playable in hardware mode dont need scanlines,like you said you want to upscale them,but for those games that have glitches and are broken in hardware mode use software mode plus scanlines ,because resolution is 512x512 or 640x480 if the game have progressive scan option.Most of people say it look terrible thats way you have to enable scanlines to mask the low resolution .That is what sony did back in ps2 era .Love your content by the way .Good look with the channel and have a good one :D
PS2 games still look awesome, they're not worse looking then modern graphics, it's just a different flavour in artstyle imo. Sometimes i even prefer PS2 graphics over more modern, for example Soul Calibur 2 looks just better than the newer ones. theyre much more colourful.
BTW, you can get better results with scanlines through reshade for emulator or with a HW scanline generator for console. You can get a pretty decent one for around 30 euro.
Mathieu Wiersma I love the PS2 I also think the games on it look amazing 😁
Im not really into scanlines to be honest, I think they can enhance 2D games but for me they aren’t something I look for 😂
@@TheAffroShowGameplay They act like some form of anti-aliasing. I hear people complain sometimes about ps1 graphics, only to discover they aren't using scanlines. If you like the graphics without them that's also fine with me.
As long as people aren't degrading the graphics and then complain about them lol
RGB on a PS1 is amazing even without scanlines in my eyes xD Even S-Video is good too, I would love to go back to using that just because xD
@@TheAffroShowGameplay Its fine on a CRT TV which has scanlines built into it but on
an LCD tv the graphics on some games look way different (3D becomes too jaggy). If its on a CRT, i don't really notice RGB vs non-RGB as much. Especially not compated to CRT vs LCD. But with scanlines through emulator or a scanline generator for a LCD screen is looks pretty much like a CRT, the way it was intended.
Agreed with Tekken 4. Tekken 7 is a great competitive fighting game, but leaves a lot to be desired as pure Tekken game. Tekken 4 and 5DR feel more fluid than Tekken 7
I will say that Tekken is also worth a shout, especially on PSP where it impresses me a lot :)
Tekken 5 is the best in entire series
Besides the hassle, what is the cost difference between the two ways of playing PS2 games (other than having a good enough PC for the emulator)? I love that great emulators are around. They help to preserve the playing of the many amazing games on PS2.
The obvious cost is compatibility, every ps2 & ps1 game will work on a real ps2 whereas PCSX2 emulation is not perfect yet & a beefy pc is needed :p
Emulation is amazing & should be experienced but for me personally I'll always love using real hardware:)
The Affro Show going to have agree some games still have buggy graphics and some run slow I have great pc that can play ps2 games but sometimes I hate configuring options for games so I’ll just stick to my modded ps2 and jailbroken backwards compatible ps3 more but sometime those games look so damn good on pc
@@LeoDynasty95 Its not quite there yet & you definitely will curse the settings as you need to change them all the time xD
But it should be experienced if possible and I hope that the compatibility gets better xD
PCSX2 has a long way to go. Many games still don't render correctly. I want to play Ace Combat series very bad, but it is a no go because they have to be played with software mode renderer which disables resolution scaling. PS3 is better I think because many PS2 games were remastered there with upscaled resolution, improved texture, and proper widescreen support.
Speaking of PS2 sounds, is it normal for there to be grinding-like noises from the laser when playing some games? It only happens with some of them and only in certain parts (for example, it's only audible in Rocky: Legends in the training segments or in SpongeBob BFBB during dialog). Some games run perfectly fine with no grinding sounds at all, other than the loading screens...
Unfortunately I have no idea, mine does this too, it is 20 years old though so maybe the laser in some games is used more to read data :)
I'm not the best for diagnostics for these machines lool
@@TheAffroShowGameplay I don't think anyone is. These PS2s are temperamental A-holes. The games don't lag though so I guess it's fine... Thanks for your time.
Check if there isnt a cable loose near the laser area. That's what ruined my discs and killed my ps2 gaming days in 2018.
If you love the PS2, get a DVDO iScan that accepts component video and a HDMI mCable. Both combined gives 480i a progressive look much better than the OSSC or RetroTINK 5X.
I'll have to look into that in the future!
To fix Black's no sky, set the emulator to software mode and start the game in software mode, then once you are in game you can change back to hardware mode.
Black also has other issues more annoying than a black sky, you can sometimes get stuck around stuff.
That being said, PCSX2 is amazing.
There's also RPCS3 which has had huge improvements in the past months.
Thank you for letting me know how to fix Black's graphical flaws & oooooh yes the PS3 emulator!
I might try it soon :)
If a game doesn't display correctly you can just set it to software mode, chances are it will fix all issues and still run at 100% speed. Granted it will then look like the actual ps2 hardware but some cpu based AA filters can help with the jaggies.
Yeah to me it's more a last resort mode but I'm glad its included:)
software mode won't magically "make it look like actual ps2 hardware" lol. If you want proof of that go and try out a game on pcsx2 in software mode on an actual crt, and compare it with an actual ps2 on the same crt, the emulator looks worse than an actual ps2.
I did test this theory out & you are right, even on my 4K display using 480i/576i native on PS2, it looked better on the real PS2 than the software mode of PCSX2, there the same 480i/576i was very blurry :p
I bet the Progressive scan PS2 footage would look even better with a mClassic though. What with that built in filtering it does.
I don't really feel it does all that much for the price but, it's an option if you want to go for it :)
The footage is plenty sharp with the OSSC in 480p 2x mode :)
Tekken 4 is beautiful now the graphics are literally amazing and aheds of its time but the anti aliasing is also really impressive I gotta say even playing tekken 4 on flat screen TV with crappy composite cables tekken 4 still looks amazing tekken 4 honestly more detailed then tekken 7 there’s more face detail and you can see more expressions on the characters then tekken 7 there was even a whole vid explaining it tekken 4 looks really amazing and is ps2 exclusive wich seems to be the case people who make the exclusives actually use the console to its full potential
Does DualShock 2 pressure sensitivity work on emulator???
I'm not sure aha, I believe it does but I personally never liked that feature xD I know it does work with the analogue sticks :)
@@TheAffroShowGameplay its good while playing gta. You can take a car and literally cruise in that by pressing the x with mild pressure. Its good feeling. Try it
On my 3080, PCSX2 is fucking amazing. I prefer to play it over my PS2 simply because of how annoying it is to get games on the phat PS2 HDD, and because not everything works with network boot on the slim PS2.
Oh I bet, with a graphics card like that, PS2 games must look incredible and run great xD
Is it difficult to put games on phat PS2 HDD? I thought that all games worked from HDD. I also thought that all games worked from network boot.
Its hard to get games going on the HD? you literally just grab the iso make sure the HD is plugged in your computer through USB and run the batch file, it takes seconds. Getting custom art work is for pussies
Great video and nice selection of games tested. Have a like and a subscribe my friend, looking forward to seeing more of your content 👌
Thank you :) I appreciate that & I'm currently working on an updated version of this video so look out for it :D
You gotta apply the CRT Shader option because the PS2 was played on a CRT TV back then. The graphic will never look good unless it's viewed as the creator intended.
I don't agree since I love the PS2 & playing it on my OSSC or the PCSX2 emulator is great & looks pretty good!
If it's not for you or you like the CRT look no problem but, I like how it looks personally:)
@@TheAffroShowGameplay Of course it's all relative and personal taste but blowing up the res to 4k for ps2 games look so unnatural because the character and the background doesn't blend in (CRT shader helps). For PS3 games, it is quite ok because that's the era when we start using HD TVs & panels. But if you enjoy whatever that your doing I guess that's ok too.
You missed one of the biggest flaws on PCSX2 - input lag. And you can't solve this, the only way to get rid of it is to use software renderer, which means being stuck at native PS2 res + even worse image quality. So for faster, more reflex-intensive games like Devil May Cry, it's a huge deal breaker.
Also, why the hell are you using bob deinterlacing with OSSC? It makes everything flicker and look super jaggy. My suggestion would be getting a TV with a built-in deinterlacer and using Passthrough. My Sony Bravia looks fantastic, and playing games on real PS2 hardware straight off HDD with OPL is amazing.
PCSX2 does allow higher resolutions, sure, but haven't you noticed the washed out colours on all games you reviewed? Or the shadows rendering incorrectly (blocky shadows) in DOA2? (2:29)
Again, yes, PCSX2 does improve the resolution, but it also makes everything look flat and dull, adds input lag on Hardware modes, and some games look completely different, have missing/incorrect textures, post-processing and other stuff that really hurts the overall look. Games like MGS3, DMC3, God of War, Matrix: Path of Neo and so on are particularly affected. That's due to OpenGL/DirectX renderer's poor handling of PS2 graphics.
I just to let you know that in my personal experience using the Vulcan API, I didn't experience input lag at all :)
I'm not saying there wasn't any & I'm sure it'll depend on a number of factors but these games never once felt laggy, the same for my updated video on this same topic :)
I did notice the colour washed out but again, in my newer video I corrected that to a better extent :)
I love real PS2 Hardware too, hence why I'm glad to have decent deinterlacing via OBS through the OSSC I use on my 4K TV :)
PCSX2 is not perfect but it's the best PS2 emulator for now :o
@@TheAffroShowGameplay Wait, PCSX2 has Vulkan? Since when?
Also, I'm pretty sure any Hardware renderer causes input lag regardless, whether it's DirectX, OpenGL or Vulkan - no difference. :)
You not experiencing input lag doesn't negate the fact it exists, or may exist. Particularly if you're playing slower, easier games, or 30 FPS titles - you may not feel it. Try something faster like God Hand or Devil May Cry 3, these games require high precision and reflexes, thus input lag is killer. I've played both for quite a few years on PCSX2 and have only recently discovered just how much my gameplay was impacted by the lag, it's a serious bottleneck in one's ability. The moment I switched to software renderer, losses turned to victories, as I felt the inputs sync completely with the on-screen action. You may barely feel it, but it's a huge deal in any game requiring skill and speed.
Yeah it does support it :)
As I said in my comment, I didn't feel or notice it but as I also said that doesn't mean lag isn't there :)
I've played all sorts of games that were both faced paced or slower placed & not once did I feel input lag but that's probably just me.
Maybe I'm less susceptible to or something but, take what I say with a grain of salt :)
@@TheAffroShowGameplay I guess you haven't been playing enough. :) When you play something like DMC3 on Very Hard, New Game, Turbo mode (which speeds up the game by 20%, thus narrowing your windows of opportunity and forcing to play faster), and you know your skills by heart, losing an encounter you could totally win on software mode is more than enough evidence to suggest the lag is there.
I also advise looking up PCSX2 input lag videos on TH-cam, I believe there's one with God Hand. Someone tested real hardware vs PCSX2 and the difference is game-changing. Hardware modes feel really sluggish. But for slow games like Silent Hill, the difference is negligible.
I've been using PCSX2 since 2014 but have ditched it since I got OSSC. The glitches and rendering mismatches are no more. :)
@@VergilHiltsLT I run my ps2 off of a pvm monitor via RGB and it looks great as well :)
I've played tekken 4 via emu, it really looks like a 2020 pc remaster :'3 blew my mind
Make sure you enable progressive scan on it & it will look even better than a remaster haha 😊
thank you, i will !!!
Real hardware is 100% trustable, no crashes or problems. Sure pcsx2 has amazing graphics for them but it isn't the same thing
That's the beauty of games though, people get choices & not everyone for better or worse wants to invest in real hardware (Obviously I do I love playing on real systems :)) I do love emulation because they give us ideas on what's possible & to give us an alternative experience which I like ^^
@@TheAffroShowGameplay yeah free remasters
One they are fee and two most issues can be fixed in the settings or with just a generally decent hardware on your pc
All colors on PCSX2 looks washed. They are much more vivid on original Hardware. I have a PS2 and stick on component cables as i do not have an OSSC.
Yes the colours on real hardware are much better but again, you can actually fix that on emulation since you can adjust the colour saturation & contrast:)
On the OSSC I was using component cables ^^
I'm looking forward for the days this runs well on a Raspberry Pi.
When that happens, give me one of those xD Portable PS2? Yes please!
0:24 someone understands the ps2 graphics style is amazing I hate all these ps2 remakes lately there basically shitting on the classics it makes me sick that crapcom want to make resident evil 4 remake when the games perfect
The only studio that handles remaster right is blue point.
@@vergil1155 ya about that shadow of the colossus and demon souls remake are dog shit but I’m not gonna get all cope on you to why it sucks all I’m gonna say is when I say all remakes suck I mean it
@@vergil1155 i agree
@@armorwolf7934 idk what was so bad about it? SOTC remake was literally a copy of the original with updated graphics and controls. Some areas might look different but that is about it. Idk about demon souls because I haven't played it yet.
You need to mach refresh to refresh to your tv.60 to 60.
Some of the games are 50hz PAL not 60hz so this is not possible:)
So basically ps2 is better in hardware tho
Well there's an updated version of this video & I also have one for 2022 so things have improved ^^
I actually find it's better in software for compatibility but hardware does allow for great upscaling :)
The choice is yours if you want accuracy or better graphics :)
@@TheAffroShowGameplay Ohh im going to takkke a look thanks!!!
It's up now so hope you enjoy :)
What are your PC specs?
Intel Core i7 6700k
Nvidia Geforce GTX 970
16GB RAM
500GB SSD
2TB SSHD
I forgot the name but I have a Z170 motherboard of somekind ;p
@@TheAffroShowGameplay Thanks.
Xiaoyu's kicks are still very weird to me
I like em, very unique & hard to read for those fighting her :)
Too bad the HD Version of Soul Calibur II did away the Japanese audio especially when you have both Heihachi and Spawn on both PS3 and XBOX 360 Versions.
Also the old XBOX Version can't have BOTH HD and true Widescreen Format at the same time. 🙁
Ah as an English player the lack of Japanese voices never bothered me personally but that's me xD
True but 4:3 looks fine & 720p looks amazing despite that for the old Xbox ::) Still, PS2 version for me all the way 🤣
@@TheAffroShowGameplay Well the first Soul Calibur even in the west only have the Japanese voice overs. Luckily for me I have some understanding of the Japanese language. Siegfried Schaffan and Yoshimitsu (From SCI-III) are both voiced by Nobuyuki Hayami who's also Link's voice from Ocarina of Time, Super Smash Bros. plus Melee and even in Soul Calibur II for the Nintendo Gamecube Version! Daisuke Gori has been Heihachi Mishima's since the Tekken Anime and Tekken 3 including the Soul Calibur II Version up to Tekken 6 before he passed away in early 2010 unfortunately.
@@ElricSowrd Here in PAL territories we got English subtitles hence I can't speak or read Japanese 🤣🤣
That's pretty cool! Ah that sucks, that is a real shame:/
well.. Call me a lazy player, but I prefer to use my PC and play all my games like this...!
I'm tired to take out my Dreamcast, then my PS2 or my SNES in order to play those machines.....
(the Mrs don't like the "mess" around the TV set....) .
It's all personal preference & if emulation serves your needs better than real hardware, go for it :)
what are the settings?
Check the video description, it shows what I used & I'm sure in the video itself I say what was used in PCSX2:)
In fact yes @1:13 I talk & show the PCSX2 settings used in the video :)
Likewise identical however compared to the real hardware of the system itself.
Sorry, I didn't quite understand what you meant, could you explain further? :)
@@TheAffroShowGameplay I'm saying that the real PS2 hardware and the PCSX2 emulator are somewhat identical and are the same thing in comparison.
They can be if you use software rendering or use native resolution, however upscaling as seen in the video can change things & of course there's other enhancements to consider too :)
Original ps2 is way better. A lot of games gonna be buggy on emulator, for me is unplayable. Original ps2 otherwise is full compatible with all ps2 games, with no problems, glitchs or bugs
Well I agree but I do like emulation in the sense that I get to see high res PS2 games, for me personally emulation has worked fairly well although as you said it won't replace my real PS2 anytime soon ;p
Never had any issue with PCSX2. Buy a decent PC and learn how to setup the emulator properly.
@@Alexandre-fh2bl While I agree I don't think its fair since not everyone can get a decent PC just yet & to be fair While I have a decent PC myself not every game I tried worked even with tinkering so, I think you are luckier than most :)
@@TheAffroShowGameplay i think he is a liar or he played only 2-3 games
@@Alexandre-fh2bl buy a ps2 and be happy, no setup required :)
No input lag on the pcsx2?
I didn't feel any on my end but it could be difficult for you, all I can say is give it a try :)
@@TheAffroShowGameplay Ive tried some games on the pcsx2 and i indeed noticed very bad input lag. But as i don't have the original ps2 gamesm i can't really compare. Maybe those specific titles had that feeling too on the og hardware...
The games used in my testing in this video had no added lag from playing from real hardware to the emulator so I'm not sure why you are getting lag, hopefully you can find an answer out there or maybe a setting in the emulator is causing the problem :o
@@lapelatomates5724 awireless controller?
@@arefallout yeah, but ive read its about the emulator itself introducing a bunch of input lag.
Wtf does this have to do with Dobiestation?
Pardon me?
@@TheAffroShowGameplay If you type just "Dobiestation" into TH-cam this video is the first video that shows up.
I don't know what that is so you probably got the wrong video mate :p
@@TheAffroShowGameplay It's a PS2 emulator that started development 4 or or so years ago.
Exactly TH-cam sure is stupid.
Ah fair enough xD
I even checked the tags of my video and there's no mention of Dobiestation at all!
Thanks to your outburst though, I now have a PS2 emulator to possibly check out in the future lol xD
Ps2 is not a cd player
It can & does support CD's though and it doubles as a CD player as some PS2 games did come on the CD format ;)
I know it's a DVD drive but you'll be surprised at the support for legacy disks :)