I put the 5100s all the way around on my 2021 Trail Boss last year and couldn’t be happier. We’ve been offroading, on a 3500 mile trip pulling a 6K camper trailer, hauled cattle, hay etc and worked hard.
Good information, thank you. I need to replace the shocks in my 98 Tacoma TRD Limited. I do not take it off-road often and I was thinking about the 5100. After watching this video it appears that I would be overdoing it (?). Should the rear leafs be replaced too? The truck does sag, I would like to correct that. Thank you for your response. Carlos.
I just installed the 5100s on my ‘19 Tacoma front and rear. You can definitely tell the difference. The ride is so much nicer. I’m pretty happy with these.
@@ShockSurplusHello , k was recommended 5100 on a small 1994 tacoma single cab because of the 2.5” lift but i thought they feel kind of stiff on the truck Do you think they too much for such light tuck?
Perfect explanation on the Bilsteins! Ran the 4600's on the rear of both of my 4Runners with just a 1inch lift and up one tire size and never had any issues.
just swapped out 18 year old 4600's on my 04 2500hd to the 5100's. they held up amazingly, all our vehicles always get bilsteins. from grand nationals to mercedes to our duramax's. they are the best..
@@ShockSurplus Wow. So much difference especially in big pot holes and bumps. My Suburban 2006 z71 drives so smooth now. Plus, I went for a long trip today and for the first time ever, I got home with zero fatigue. Thanks for an outstanding product.
I have a 23 Tacoma Trail. I'm running Icon 1.5" add a leafs and Bilstein 5100's in the rear, I removed the factory spacer. In the front, I'm running the Trails 1.1" larger factory coils that it comes with and Bilstein 5100's on the 3rd notch. I'm running factory sized duratracs. I also added a sway bar relocate bracket kit. My truck is running armor: steel bumpers, factory steel skids, RAmotorsports aluminum fuel tank skid, aluminum cat security shield, and BA sliders. I've got a 10k warn winch with steel line, RC molle boards in the bed, an RC steel rack on the roof, and a steel rack on the bed rails for my RTT. I've also got Sumo Springs front and rear in place of my factory bump stops. I couldn't be happier with my ride quality after adding the weight to the truck, the factory Hitachi's, and rear leafs weren't cutting it. I've also added two folding bagged awnings, a snorkel, any time camera system, vent visors, a pioneer 10" sub, upgraded AGM NAPA battery, and Redarc trailer brake controller. I added blacked out amber grille lights, amber dual flood and spot Auxbeam Pro Series ditch lights, dual flood amber "zombie" lights that fold out under my front bumper, RC 40" blackout light bar, rear bumper white light pods, and a snorkel. I also have bed stiffners, and probably forgot something..... for perspective, plus my gear when I head out into the mountains. My suspension rides beautifully!
I bought my 2016 Tundra CrewMax TRD Limited used with 100k miles. The OEM shocks were pretty spent by then. I opted for the 4600's over the 5100's simply because I had the 5100's on my 2006 SR5 and they were overkill on that truck. The 4600's lasted two years and 25k of driving and towing before the passenger side rear gave up on the 2016. It's always that corner with a Tundra BTW. I always felt they were just marginal for this truck anyway. Today I installed the rear 5100's I just got from Shock Surplus (FAST free shipping, $25 internet coupon!) They suit the 2016Tundra very well. Doing fronts soon.
I went from just a basic OEM black shock to the 4600, and man it made a big difference I was really impressed. The 4600 do have a little bit more body roll, but for the trade-off of the comfort it has compared to the OEM shocks still Far better.
@@eriklazo7886 when you turn the vehicle left to right while driving the body of the vehicle will tend to lean the opposite direction that you turn, if you get what I mean by that.
On my '15 4runner with almost 73.000 miles with xreas and front leveling spacers I had two leaking shocks. Changed to 4600 at the front using the upper groove of the two available on the 4600 shock (no need for the spacers anymore, it is leveled with the back) and at the rear original Toyota Tokico shocks. 4600 were cheaper than oem at the front and oem were cheaper than the 4600 at the rear. Very close to the OEM ride. Perhaps just a tiny bit stiffer, barely noticeable. Part number on the 4600 is 24-121750 and at the rear 48530-35082.
Definitely looking to replace my the Rancho's that came with my truck with these. The Rancho's are 20 years old, and you can tell they've had better days. I put new tires on yesterday that were the proper OEM size- made a world of difference, but I need to replace the shocks to make sure those tires make it to 65K miles, haha.
@@ShockSurplus As far as Rancho's go, I get a bit confused with what RS5000 to get- my truck is an "off road" FX4 F150 (2003). I can't find anything as to whether or not if it was leveled/lifted at the factory, so I'm not sure if I need the 0-1" or if I need taller shocks? The shocks on there are so rusted that part#'s are pretty much gone. I'm leaning more towards the Bilsteins, but if I can do the rancho's again- I'd definitely do it. I like that you guys bundle them together to kind of take some of the guesswork out. Thanks!
You can measure each shock from mount to mount on a level surface. This gives you roughly 40-50% compression. You can then plug those measurements into the shock information we have. That number should be roughly centered on the fully extended and fully compressed measurements. You're ok to lose some extended and get more compress travel but you want to aim to be close to even as possible.
Update, I went with the Bilstein 4600 thanks to this video and other reviews . I am really impressed with them and after I replace more of my suspension components I should be in a good place with a controlled, safe ride. They are great on gravel, washboard roads just the same as our nasty pothole laden, rough city streets we have here in the midwest. Great for towing as well! Do you guys only sell truck shocks, or do you carry shocks for passenger cars as well? I'd definitely put a set of Bilstein shocks/struts in my Ford Focus....well worth the extra cost!
i have a set of 4600's on my 2005 suburban and they made it handle better( especially body roll) and provide a great ride. On the flip side i installed a set of 4600's on my 2006 2500hd and they are harsh and choppy when not loaded with weight. Im sure the weight of the suburban keeps the stiffness at bay. But on the pickup i would probably go with a shock that is not as stiff as the 4600's. To be fair the 2006 2500hd is just stiff riding truck no matter the shock in the back. My 2020 2500hd Duramax rides so much smoother with the factory Ranchos. The trade off is Porpoising while pulling a trailer over large smooth bumps a highway speeds and minimal body roll on turns. From researching tires can play a huge roll in ride comfort. All my tires are LT load range E i keep them around 50-60 psi (40psi on the 2006 2500hd) I recently bought Goodyear Duratrac RT tires for my 2020 they are Quiet, they dont wonder on bad roads wet, rain, snow traction is great! , So i will be looking into finding a shock that still rides smooth but cuts down on the porposing on my 2020. Any suggestions for that would be greatly appreciated. I hope this sheds some light on shock selection for someone. Your videos are great, real world testing is much more helpful. Keep it up!
Trust me, up here in Canada the zinc plating looks like utter garbage after one winter. I will say however that the 5100’s made my previous JK ride exponentially better than the stock shocks.
I’m trying to lift a 2006 Toyota Corolla 2” to clear some slightly larger tires, and gain ground clearance. I live in an area prone to mudslides and got a free beater to smash around some of these obstacles. I’m planning for other mods like a lsd and skid plates / winch / bumper….
I’ve heard Bilstein is better than rancho. I’m looking to get new shocks for my 2002 Frontier. It’s fine on the highway but city streets with potholes is a rough ride 😂
thanks alot for this, it's exactly what's been bugging me since i removed the rough countrys the lift shop put on my truck and put 5100s on it and got the same exact ride. Which i blame on the 3 leaf spring pack on the front of my 4x. I was thinking of getting the 4600s but now i wont. (since for one thing, i'm running 35s). I'm going to have the shop remove the spring packs and put on 2 leaf packs. Which will also drop the front a bit. I'm thinking the shocks don't do a hell of a lot with a leaf spring set up. whaa!
2021 Ram Bighorn no lift. Upgraded tires from Bridgestone 275/55-20 to a Ridge Grappler 33X12.5-22. That's going from 38lbs to 62lbs per tire. Now when I hit an offset bump in the road, the rear end sways and can affect the control. Looks like 5100's are available for my truck. Would you go with them? Also considering track and sway bar upgrade as well. Thanks for your videos, best ones I've watched.
HRG makes good stuff for sure but if you actually want to increase performance so it is actually decent off road rather than just taller to fit some tires I would recommend taking a look at the Flatout Suspension catalog
I'm trying to decide between the 4600 and 5100. I drive a 2020 Ram 2500 6.7L Diesel towing a 30' Airstream Classic (GVWR of the trailer is 10K). I'm now at 76K miles. I had been pleased with the towing with the factory shocks, but I think they are worn out. I'm thinking the 4600 may be a big improvement; certainly over the worn out shocks but probably also better than when they were brand new. But I wonder if I will want the extra firmness of the 5100. Can it turned down to match the 4600 when you are not towing?
4600s and 5100s will feel almost identical. What you call smooth, some call mushy, but to each their own. When we ran Rancho, the ride was too soft and boaty for what we like
Hey guys. Liking this channel. I appreciate how you guys explain things, good job. Anyways, I have a LR Defender and based on this video I've decided what shocks I'm going to switch to so thanks. The stock shocks are still good though but the bushings/rubbers are shot so I'll just replace those in the interim. My question is, what's the difference between the regular black rubbers and the yellow polyurethane ones?
Thank you for the video. I'm thinking I could get away with the 4600's for my 2002 Chevy 2500HD Duramax. It's not lifted by I do have a leveling kit on it with factory size tires and wheels. Blistein website said 4600 on the front and 5100 on the rear. What are your thoughts?
A leveling kit still lifts the vehicle. Depends n how it was lifted and how much it was lifted by. Please contact our sales team directly for assistance.
Our 1996 2500 Cummins Dodge p/u Auto, 2 wheel drive club cab long box independent front sus. with 150,000 Km. I bought it new with complete factory trailer package. Tr Hitch & HD springs. No raised kits, it’s all stock. Installed double air bags rear since new. I'm having diving/rocking for and aft problems hauling my 8000lb 30ft trailer. Have had Monroes on it but don’t last as long as they should. People are recommending Bilsteins 4600 series 24-184847 ’s for front and 24-184854 for rears. Can you confirm that this is best, only one or a good match for my truck. Thank you.
It'll handle it no problem, the Bilstein is probably one of the best shocks on that 2WD ram that would work, or KYB Monomax. www.shocksurplus.com/search?query=bilstein-4600
We run them on our own vehicles but none that have a 4" lift, and they are all driving perfectly fine and honestly better than other parts that were previously on it. It varies on vehicle, the lift, and then personal opinion as firmness and stiffness is subjective.
@shock surplus. Ok so I have a 2014 Silverado 2500hd that appears to be lifted but it doesn’t have a lift kit of any kind! It’s just simply a tall truck from the factory! Sooo would I use the 4600 or the 5100 ?
Bilstein does not have any 5100s for the 2wd OBS GM trucks but if you wanted something similar You could run Skyjacker M95 part numbers M9506 in the front and M9572 in the rear. They use a 46 mm piston just like a Bilstein and are good from stock height up to 2" of lift all around.
Glad I found this video. I currently have a 2015 f150 and I want to replace rear shocks front is done. I have a 2 in level on front and rear is factory height. Only other thing I did is went with a 34in tire from a 33. I don’t tow much or anything so would 4600 work for me with a slightly larger tire and stock ride height in rear?
@@ShockSurplus I have a 2015 gmc Sierra 1500 1/2 ton want to install the 5100 I tow a boat and a trailer no lift but run 33” x11.5 tires I know the tires are a lot heavier than stock. Should I use the 5100’s?
I have a 1997 f250 Light duty with a leveling kit and 33s , don't really do any crazy off roading just some beat up dirt roads . Should I go with the 5100s or 4600s thank you?.
the 4600s are designed to work with the factory springs (whether coilsprings or leaf springs, front or rear). You dont need to buy new springs with either the 4600 or 5100.
Thanks for this comparison. Im looking at one of these for my new rig which is giving me a less than stellar ride. I have a stock height 2022 GMC Sierra 3500 HD Diesel - with the X31 package - which I will use 50/50 to carry my 3100lb camper. I presently experience a bit of porpoising after installing replacement overloads. Thoughts? Thanks
Bilstein 4600 is an OEM replacement strictly for stock height and using the vehicle mainly as a daily driver. Bilstein 5100 are a towing and hauling shock and better tuned and valved for that.
@@ShockSurplus Hi there. I watched the video again and wow it is full of subtle and very good info !! It has also helped me understand that I am probably headed in the right direction to fix my suspension woes. What I took away from your comments on the 5100 was that lifted vehicles often have modified wheels/tires that add to the unsprung weight of the truck. The different valving and shock damping in the 5100s deals better with this additional unsprung weight. I am also guessing that demands from hauling and towing have the same need for a shock like the 5100s. I remember hearing (from an engineer friend) a while ago that dealing with unsprung weight is often the "Holy Grail"of truck (and car) suspension engineers. Keep up the great videos guys that are well explained !! Also good on you for pronouncing their German name properly !
The pleasure is all ours. We are really glad to hear you are enjoying our content! Yeah there's a lot that goes into the suspension and get very technical. We try to keep it as informative but not too complex.
I have a 99 Jeep Cherokee XJ with a 3” Rough Country lift. The RC shocks that come with the lift kit are to be desired. I ordered the 5100s. I daily my jeep and seldom hit trails. The RC lift is very harsh over bumps in the road and streets. I’m hoping that the 5100s help with the jarring. Any thoughts? Thank you for the video. God bless you and yours In Jesus Name my friend!
The 5100s should be a big help. Usually the RC springs are pretty decent, they just do not do the best job of valving their shocks, so a good upgrade like those 5100s should do wonders for both comfort and control.
Just bought a truck that has a lift I believe it’s 6” but I’m not 100% sure. The shocks are needing replacing just wondering how you figure out what size you need and what would be a good brand option for a on and off road kinda of unit?
I recently bought a 2009 Chevrolet Silverado 2500hd 6.0l with a snowplow at stock height in with factory shock and I was thinking about Bilstein but wonder if I should go with 5100s?
I have a 2018 F250. 100% stock. I do pull a 28 ft camper in season, but this is also my daily driver. I like the 5100 color better than the 4600 yellow. But in the video it seemed the 5100 is only for lifted trucks, will the 5100 work for my stock height or should I get the 4600? Appreciate the help!
You can run the Bilstein 5100. For the 2018 Ford F250, the 4600 and 5100 are almost the same specs for compressed and extended where the extended is lightly longer by less than 1/2". We would run the Bilstein 5100 in your case.
I currently have rough county 2in bolt on leveling kit installed on my 13 f150 and my rear shocks are still factory stock. Should I get the 5100 or the 4600. Kinda stuck between the two.
My Tundra has the heavier "E" rated tires. So, I mounted the 5100s. It is definitely a jouncier ride versus the stock OEM shocks that had 90,000 miles on them.
Do you regret getting the 5100s? I am on the same boat. Have the E rated tires and will be needing to replace shocks soon and was thinking the 5100s but after seeing your comment I’m not sure anymore
@@kcast005 No regrets. - I live in a city with lots of pot holes. With the E rated all terrain tires inflated to 38 to 40 lbs PSI - I definitely feel the bumps more after the Bilstein install.
It depends on the vehicle. IFS sets up can use a spacer on top as it would mount to upper top mount. But ensure, if this is the case, that you studs have enough thread to tighten the upper mounts on the truck.
My 23 Toyota Tacoma off road came with Bilstein shocks I put a 2 in leveling kit on the front and a 1'' block in the back, will my shocks still work as for wheel travel ? it rides and drives good I just want to know if I need to buy a longer shock
In terms of design and function they are basically the same the 5125s are simply the name they use for 5100 shocks that are in the universal catalog and do not have vehicle specific mounts or tuning.
They do not make 4600s for the Trail Boss so 5100 really would be the only way to go for you out of the two. The front struts are adjustable from stock TB/AT4 height up to 1.1-1.2" of lift over stock, so if you were looking to keep it stock height or get it closer to level, the 5100s have you covered. www.shocksurplus.com/products/bilstein-6112-strut-spring-rear-b8-5100-shocks-set-for-2019-2022-chevrolet-silverado-1500-trail-boss-4wd-w-0-1-2-lift
I want to change the shocks on my 2004 Ford F 350 SuperDuty Lariat Dually Diesel Crew Cab and I want to use a very powerful brand.Which one do you recommend that I use.I will really appreciate this because I have been trying to do this for a long time but I have not been able to get somebody to advice me on it. I will like the one that is strong and poweful with all necessary applications considered .
Bilstein offer a 0-2.5" shock that would work with your vehicle. This is going to make it feel firmer and designed for towing and hauling. www.shocksurplus.com/products/bilstein-5100-monotube-gas-shocks-set-1999-2004-ford-f-350-4wd
I have a 2010 Dodge 2500 4wd, no lift but I am running 315 / 70R16 tires. I pull a 32 ft 12,000 lbs 5th wheel camper and a 25ft gooseneck used to haul hay and my tractor around 5000 lbs. Which would be better for me, the 4600's or the 5100's?
The Bilstein 5100 would be better for your need as they are a towing and hauling shock. Bilstein 4600 are an OE replacement setup. Those would be more towards how the factory shock were on your vehicle.
From our customer's experience, we would say yes. However from our own, we would not know as we don't carry Rough Country nor do we have plans to do so.
I work in the oilfield and my 2013 ram 2500 takes a beating. Looking for a shock that will perform well in this environment. Any suggestion would be appreciated
I've done 5100s every time on my trucks and they are great, especially if you're going to beat it, however, for one of the stock trucks I have, I may try the 4,600 for a smoother ride
If the parts are brand new, not installed or used, you can return them within the appropriate window and exchange them accordingly. www.shocksurplus.com/pages/return-exchange-request
I tried to find a comment mentioning a 2nd gen Tacoma (2005) so my apologies of I’m doubling up. So 4.0 4x4 Off-Road that’s mostly stock. It has the supercharger but I doubt that impacts what shock to use. It has the stock bilsteins on there but I’m looking to upgrade since at 149k miles I think they’re still original. I’m leaning towards 5100 mainly because of the great things I’ve heard. I don’t haul anything, nor do I go off-roading much (but I want to change that!). Which would you recommend? Thank you for a great video!
It really depends on what your want to build this to. Bilstein 5100 is a good starting point but they are not as capable as other products if you're planning to build this into an off-road focused rig. Please contact our sales team directly and give us some more information so we can help steer you in the right direction.
Question: I bought a set of Fox 2.0 Performance shocks for my '21 Ram Power Wagon from you guys on Black Friday. I have yet to install due to crazy work schedule and home remodel. I found your comments on the 5100 interesting as I upgraded to 35" tires on my truck. I bought the new shocks because of the constant vibrations and jarring feeling while driving on the concrete roads in Houston. Are the Fox 2.0 shocks comparable to the 5100 shocks in regards to controlling the added unsprung weight? Just want to get a bit smoother ride quality. Thanks!
Fox 2.0 provides a softer feeling for daily and firms up when you're off-roading or rather when the suspension is cycling aggressively on the trails. Bilstein is better for towing and is slightly firmer feeling over Fox 2.0
I'm looking to install one of these two items on my Hummer H3 adventure 2006 it's on stock 33 and I want to get more information on which will be the appropriate shock for my truck?
@@ShockSurplus yes I love to off road I'm also adding the mickey thompson baja boss AT LT 285/75/16 which are 50/50 on road and off road since I love to off road I should go with the 5100 or 4600 I'm not lifting the truck it's a Hummer H3
I just bought a 2006 Chevy Silverado 2500HD, it has 200k miles on it. The shocks have never been replaced, and as you can imagine at 200k they are ready to. Can someone give an opinion I should get when I will not be towing and looking for comfort?
Of the two, if it is stock height you will want the 4600s, however if you are not towing and you want maximum comfort, the Fox 2.0s might be the better call.
So the 5100s will not fit stock and for lifted only? Did I understand that correctly? My understanding was you could raise a vehicle with the ride height adjustment up to 2". I was hoping to get 5100s on stock suspension and rais 0.5-1" for a larger tire...
It depends on application. If you have coil over strut suspension from the factory like the front of most modern midsize and half ton trucks and SUVs you can use 5100 ride height adjustable struts to lift the vehicle. In most cases on vehicles where the damper is separate of the spring system like a 3/4 and 1 Ton trucks or Jeeps, you generally need to already have a lift with the 5100s as the shock can not lift the vehicle on its own. With that said there are some 5100s for applications like those that will fit at stock height.
Can the 5100 be put onto a non lifted super duty truck? I’ve watched some videos were people have put them on a non lifted but they are tow consistently heavy loads and wonder if that maybe is the reason that go with the 5100 over the 4600.
Yes you can put the 5100s on the Ford Super Duty trucks, they're only a tad longer than the 4600s - they're going to be near identical for towing www.shocksurplus.com/search?query=super-duty-5100
the 5100s would be the answer to level the vehicle in the front, since they have an adjustable height spring collar. The 4600s are for factory height. Subscribe up and check out some of our other 5100 related videos that dive into this. feel free to text 213-433-3616 for more q&a, we're here to help
Bro I have a 1991 4x4 Toyota truck, which shocks you suggest good enough for rough and off roads? The truck is driven on all roads but a lot of rough roads in my country
I have a 2010 Sierra 1500 with a 1.5 inch spacers installed. I tow a 6500lb camper trailer 10 times a year. Which would you recommend. The 4600 or 5100?
I like the zinc plated compared to the yellow painted but I dont have any lift on my truck it is just the factory height but I prefer to use the zinc plated,as a matter of fact the colour of the shocks that I have on the truck now is yellow and I don't like it most especially because of the colour,I prefer something like black or something dark.Will it be possible to use the zinc plated and not give me any problem.
which vehicle? 4600 and 5100 vehicles are meant for factory height or minor lifted vehicles, not vehicles with 3" of drop. Belltech would be a better option. But give us a shout support@shocksurplus.com and we can dive into more details.
2014 silverado 1500 5.3L z71. Ink the I have a 3 inch drop and the rear 4.5. I removed lift block and overload springs. I have installed 3.0 rear shackles I couldn't
New to this. Question. Am I to understand you can get a lift on your vehicle with the 5100 application with out leaf spring, spacers or by other traditional means etc? But not the 4600 because it lacks the grooved rings?
They are a Bilstein monotube that is around 1.5" in diameter with smaller pistons to match. So although people like to say they are a 4600, they are far from it.
Depends on your goals and use cases. We have a great buyers guide that should be a huge help for steering you in the right direction here www.shocksurplus.com/pages/choosing-shocks-for-your-2011-2020-chevrolet-silverado-2500-3500
Great video. Very informative. Question though. I have a Tacoma TRD-OR with shocks that are slightly smaller than the 4600s. If I get a hard topper on my bed, should I upgrade to the regular 4600s or do anything with my suspension? I like having a plush, non bouncy ride since I stay on the construction filled streets.
I occasionally max out my payload by hauling gravel, bricks, etc. in my stock 2017 TRD sport. It's pretty close to level now but I'd like the bed to be slightly higher than the front so that it rides level when I haul, instead of squatting like it does now. If I add a new leaf pack in the future that raises the bed a bit, will the 4600s allow for that? Or should I install 4600s up front and 5100s in the back?
We would suggest running 5100 all around. That'll overall ride more equal as they're tuned to be in conjunction with that same series. However there is no right or wrong, and it's still ultimately up to you.
I put the 5100s all the way around on my 2021 Trail Boss last year and couldn’t be happier. We’ve been offroading, on a 3500 mile trip pulling a 6K camper trailer, hauled cattle, hay etc and worked hard.
thanks for the feedback
I just had the 4600's installed on my '14 tacoma with 160k miles. What a difference! It feels like stock plus 40% better to me.
love to hear it, did you have the factory yellow bilstein twin tubes?
@@ShockSurplus I'm not sure of the terminology, but they are the monotubes. They are yellow/blue. They replaced the old stock ones.
Some Tacomas came with a factory OEM Toyota x Bilstein shock that looks similar to a Bilstein n4600 but were not the same.
@@ShockSurplus Ohh! No sir, they were not those.
Good information, thank you. I need to replace the shocks in my 98 Tacoma TRD Limited. I do not take it off-road often and I was thinking about the 5100. After watching this video it appears that I would be overdoing it (?). Should the rear leafs be replaced too? The truck does sag, I would like to correct that. Thank you for your response.
Carlos.
I just installed the 5100s on my ‘19 Tacoma front and rear. You can definitely tell the difference. The ride is so much nicer. I’m pretty happy with these.
great to hear!
@@ShockSurplusHello , k was recommended 5100 on a small 1994 tacoma single cab because of the 2.5” lift but i thought they feel kind of stiff on the truck
Do you think they too much for such light tuck?
Perfect explanation on the Bilsteins! Ran the 4600's on the rear of both of my 4Runners with just a 1inch lift and up one tire size and never had any issues.
The pleasure is all ours! We are glad that you are enjoying the Bilstein 4600.
just swapped out 18 year old 4600's on my 04 2500hd to the 5100's. they held up amazingly, all our vehicles always get bilsteins. from grand nationals to mercedes to our duramax's. they are the best..
Very informative, thank you. I just ordered the 4600s from you guys. Can't wait!
awesome, love to hear it
@@ShockSurplus Wow. So much difference especially in big pot holes and bumps. My Suburban 2006 z71 drives so smooth now. Plus, I went for a long trip today and for the first time ever, I got home with zero fatigue. Thanks for an outstanding product.
I have a 23 Tacoma Trail. I'm running Icon 1.5" add a leafs and Bilstein 5100's in the rear, I removed the factory spacer.
In the front, I'm running the Trails 1.1" larger factory coils that it comes with and Bilstein 5100's on the 3rd notch. I'm running factory sized duratracs. I also added a sway bar relocate bracket kit. My truck is running armor: steel bumpers, factory steel skids, RAmotorsports aluminum fuel tank skid, aluminum cat security shield, and BA sliders. I've got a 10k warn winch with steel line, RC molle boards in the bed, an RC steel rack on the roof, and a steel rack on the bed rails for my RTT. I've also got Sumo Springs front and rear in place of my factory bump stops. I couldn't be happier with my ride quality after adding the weight to the truck, the factory Hitachi's, and rear leafs weren't cutting it. I've also added two folding bagged awnings, a snorkel, any time camera system, vent visors, a pioneer 10" sub, upgraded AGM NAPA battery, and Redarc trailer brake controller.
I added blacked out amber grille lights, amber dual flood and spot Auxbeam Pro Series ditch lights, dual flood amber "zombie" lights that fold out under my front bumper, RC 40" blackout light bar, rear bumper white light pods, and a snorkel. I also have bed stiffners, and probably forgot something..... for perspective, plus my gear when I head out into the mountains. My suspension rides beautifully!
I bought my 2016 Tundra CrewMax TRD Limited used with 100k miles. The OEM shocks were pretty spent by then. I opted for the 4600's over the 5100's simply because I had the 5100's on my 2006 SR5 and they were overkill on that truck. The 4600's lasted two years and 25k of driving and towing before the passenger side rear gave up on the 2016. It's always that corner with a Tundra BTW. I always felt they were just marginal for this truck anyway. Today I installed the rear 5100's I just got from Shock Surplus (FAST free shipping, $25 internet coupon!) They suit the 2016Tundra very well. Doing fronts soon.
I went from just a basic OEM black shock to the 4600, and man it made a big difference I was really impressed. The 4600 do have a little bit more body roll, but for the trade-off of the comfort it has compared to the OEM shocks still Far better.
I’m about to do this , getting some cheap on market place only 4000 miles on them. What do you mean body roll ?
@@eriklazo7886 when you turn the vehicle left to right while driving the body of the vehicle will tend to lean the opposite direction that you turn, if you get what I mean by that.
@@Mason-fv1zl oh yeah I know what you mean . Guess I like body roll haha feels like a roller coaster
This is what I was looking for. Thank you
Glad we could help
I Installed the 5100 on my 2016 4Runner and I love how it rides over the stock for under $500. Highly suggested for the cost and ease of installation.
thanks for the feedback
Which trim is your 4Runner?
@ SR5 Premium 4X4
On my '15 4runner with almost 73.000 miles with xreas and front leveling spacers I had two leaking shocks. Changed to 4600 at the front using the upper groove of the two available on the 4600 shock (no need for the spacers anymore, it is leveled with the back) and at the rear original Toyota Tokico shocks. 4600 were cheaper than oem at the front and oem were cheaper than the 4600 at the rear. Very close to the OEM ride. Perhaps just a tiny bit stiffer, barely noticeable. Part number on the 4600 is 24-121750 and at the rear 48530-35082.
Just ordered the 5100s for the front end of my 2004 Silverado, excited
love to hear it
how do they ride?
Definitely looking to replace my the Rancho's that came with my truck with these. The Rancho's are 20 years old, and you can tell they've had better days. I put new tires on yesterday that were the proper OEM size- made a world of difference, but I need to replace the shocks to make sure those tires make it to 65K miles, haha.
There are a lot more companies that produce amazing shocks compared to 20 years ago.
@@ShockSurplus As far as Rancho's go, I get a bit confused with what RS5000 to get- my truck is an "off road" FX4 F150 (2003). I can't find anything as to whether or not if it was leveled/lifted at the factory, so I'm not sure if I need the 0-1" or if I need taller shocks? The shocks on there are so rusted that part#'s are pretty much gone. I'm leaning more towards the Bilsteins, but if I can do the rancho's again- I'd definitely do it. I like that you guys bundle them together to kind of take some of the guesswork out. Thanks!
You can measure each shock from mount to mount on a level surface. This gives you roughly 40-50% compression. You can then plug those measurements into the shock information we have. That number should be roughly centered on the fully extended and fully compressed measurements. You're ok to lose some extended and get more compress travel but you want to aim to be close to even as possible.
Update, I went with the Bilstein 4600 thanks to this video and other reviews . I am really impressed with them and after I replace more of my suspension components I should be in a good place with a controlled, safe ride. They are great on gravel, washboard roads just the same as our nasty pothole laden, rough city streets we have here in the midwest. Great for towing as well! Do you guys only sell truck shocks, or do you carry shocks for passenger cars as well? I'd definitely put a set of Bilstein shocks/struts in my Ford Focus....well worth the extra cost!
i have a set of 4600's on my 2005 suburban and they made it handle better( especially body roll) and provide a great ride. On the flip side i installed a set of 4600's on my 2006 2500hd and they are harsh and choppy when not loaded with weight. Im sure the weight of the suburban keeps the stiffness at bay. But on the pickup i would probably go with a shock that is not as stiff as the 4600's.
To be fair the 2006 2500hd is just stiff riding truck no matter the shock in the back. My 2020 2500hd Duramax rides so much smoother with the factory Ranchos. The trade off is Porpoising while pulling a trailer over large smooth bumps a highway speeds and minimal body roll on turns. From researching tires can play a huge roll in ride comfort. All my tires are LT load range E i keep them around 50-60 psi (40psi on the 2006 2500hd) I recently bought Goodyear Duratrac RT tires for my 2020 they are Quiet, they dont wonder on bad roads wet, rain, snow traction is great! , So i will be looking into finding a shock that still rides smooth but cuts down on the porposing on my 2020. Any suggestions for that would be greatly appreciated. I hope this sheds some light on shock selection for someone. Your videos are great, real world testing is much more helpful. Keep it up!
I'm happy with my Bilstein 4600 shocks on my 2012 Chevy Silverado 1500 4WD Crew Cab LT Z71. It's better than stock shocks.
thanks for the feedback! subscribe, lots of silverado content available
This is a great video. Really help me decide what shocks to get thank you very much!
nice, which ones you thinking? Hopefully we can get you dialed in
www.shocksurplus.com/search?query=bilstein
4600 most likely
Trust me, up here in Canada the zinc plating looks like utter garbage after one winter.
I will say however that the 5100’s made my previous JK ride exponentially better than the stock shocks.
canada roads will make anything look like garbage, including kings! ahha
@@ShockSurplus my Fox Factory 2.5” are running strong after one winter
I’m trying to lift a 2006 Toyota Corolla 2” to clear some slightly larger tires, and gain ground clearance. I live in an area prone to mudslides and got a free beater to smash around some of these obstacles. I’m planning for other mods like a lsd and skid plates / winch / bumper….
2024 Chevy 2500HD diesel Z71 high country. Want to improve ride quality...half say 4600 other half say 5100... which are best for better ride
I’ve heard Bilstein is better than rancho. I’m looking to get new shocks for my 2002 Frontier. It’s fine on the highway but city streets with potholes is a rough ride 😂
Can the 4600 be lifted
Depends which vehicle, 4600s are factory height, but some applications you can use a 1” or 2” lift spring / spacer. What vehicle do you have?
thanks alot for this, it's exactly what's been bugging me since i removed the rough countrys the lift shop put on my truck and put 5100s on it and got the same exact ride. Which i blame on the 3 leaf spring pack on the front of my 4x. I was thinking of getting the 4600s but now i wont. (since for one thing, i'm running 35s). I'm going to have the shop remove the spring packs and put on 2 leaf packs. Which will also drop the front a bit. I'm thinking the shocks don't do a hell of a lot with a leaf spring set up. whaa!
2021 Ram Bighorn no lift. Upgraded tires from Bridgestone 275/55-20 to a Ridge Grappler 33X12.5-22. That's going from 38lbs to 62lbs per tire. Now when I hit an offset bump in the road, the rear end sways and can affect the control. Looks like 5100's are available for my truck. Would you go with them? Also considering track and sway bar upgrade as well. Thanks for your videos, best ones I've watched.
I want to play with a mazda Cx-30, so I was thinking on buy the hgr liftkit and change the suspension in order to fit a better off road tires
HRG makes good stuff for sure but if you actually want to increase performance so it is actually decent off road rather than just taller to fit some tires I would recommend taking a look at the Flatout Suspension catalog
I'm trying to decide between the 4600 and 5100. I drive a 2020 Ram 2500 6.7L Diesel towing a 30' Airstream Classic (GVWR of the trailer is 10K). I'm now at 76K miles. I had been pleased with the towing with the factory shocks, but I think they are worn out. I'm thinking the 4600 may be a big improvement; certainly over the worn out shocks but probably also better than when they were brand new. But I wonder if I will want the extra firmness of the 5100. Can it turned down to match the 4600 when you are not towing?
The 5100 aren't adjustable, if you're at factory height, then roll with 4600 series.
I’ve used the 4600’s on my suburban 2500, but just ordered a set of 5100 for my Silverado 2500hd for the look.
Both are great options.
I am thinking I want to sent back the 5100s and get some 4600s. 5100’s are super rough.
4600 are an OEM replacement while 5100 are a step above that for entry level performance and towing/hauling needs.
How's the ride quality on the 5100? Is your truck lifted?
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! GREAT VIDEO AND EDUCATION. I LEARNED SO MUCH!!!
Glad it was helpful!
The stock ranchos on my King Ranch were smoother than the 4600s I ordered, wish I gotten the 5100
4600s and 5100s will feel almost identical. What you call smooth, some call mushy, but to each their own. When we ran Rancho, the ride was too soft and boaty for what we like
What type of rancho shocks were they?
Which shocks are most compatible with FJ cruisers ?
Hey guys. Liking this channel. I appreciate how you guys explain things, good job. Anyways, I have a LR Defender and based on this video I've decided what shocks I'm going to switch to so thanks. The stock shocks are still good though but the bushings/rubbers are shot so I'll just replace those in the interim. My question is, what's the difference between the regular black rubbers and the yellow polyurethane ones?
Bushings can be one of two, 1 just different colors or 2 different strengthen or hardness.
Thank you for the video. I'm thinking I could get away with the 4600's for my 2002 Chevy 2500HD Duramax. It's not lifted by I do have a leveling kit on it with factory size tires and wheels. Blistein website said 4600 on the front and 5100 on the rear. What are your thoughts?
A leveling kit still lifts the vehicle. Depends n how it was lifted and how much it was lifted by. Please contact our sales team directly for assistance.
I have a 2015 Toyota Tacoma, I will be pulling a 17’ camper so o went with the 5100….? Thoughts?
The 5100s are a great choice for heavier loads.
Great info , thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Our 1996 2500 Cummins Dodge p/u Auto, 2 wheel drive club cab long box independent front sus. with 150,000 Km. I bought it new with complete factory trailer package. Tr Hitch & HD springs. No raised kits, it’s all stock. Installed double air bags rear since new.
I'm having diving/rocking for and aft problems hauling my 8000lb 30ft trailer. Have had Monroes on it but don’t last as long as they should. People are recommending Bilsteins 4600 series 24-184847 ’s for front and 24-184854 for rears. Can you confirm that this is best, only one or a good match for my truck. Thank you.
I have a 2004 gmc 2500 duramax 4x4. Stock height. Should I go 4600 or 5100?
What about added weight to the 4600 such as a heavy steal front bumper and rear bumper. -2WD Ram 3500.
It'll handle it no problem, the Bilstein is probably one of the best shocks on that 2WD ram that would work, or KYB Monomax.
www.shocksurplus.com/search?query=bilstein-4600
I'm just wondering... Are they nearly identical?
Not quite but relatively close.
Are these 4600 series available for the 2019 Jeep Grand Cherokee?
Bilstein does not or has yet to produce parts for your 2019 Jeep Grand Cherokee
@@ShockSurplusThanks. Do you know of any other good quality brand comparable to the Bilsteins 4600 that would fit a 2019 Grand Cherokee?
Best shocks for jeep jk stock suspension with 33’s?
I put the 5100 on my 4 inch lifted 03 Silverado with 35's and man it's a rough ride that shock is pretty stiff
We run them on our own vehicles but none that have a 4" lift, and they are all driving perfectly fine and honestly better than other parts that were previously on it. It varies on vehicle, the lift, and then personal opinion as firmness and stiffness is subjective.
Do the 4600s come with the springs ? Also can I get these at any auto parts
They do not come with springs and you would have to retain your factory ones.
@shock surplus. Ok so I have a 2014 Silverado 2500hd that appears to be lifted but it doesn’t have a lift kit of any kind! It’s just simply a tall truck from the factory! Sooo would I use the 4600 or the 5100 ?
I’m finna buy a 2inch tuff country lift kit for my 1996 c2500 Silverado. The 5100s will work fine right
Bilstein does not have any 5100s for the 2wd OBS GM trucks but if you wanted something similar You could run Skyjacker M95 part numbers M9506 in the front and M9572 in the rear. They use a 46 mm piston just like a Bilstein and are good from stock height up to 2" of lift all around.
Wait so I can use the 5100s on stock ride height?
Depends on the vehicle.
Glad I found this video. I currently have a 2015 f150 and I want to replace rear shocks front is done. I have a 2 in level on front and rear is factory height. Only other thing I did is went with a 34in tire from a 33. I don’t tow much or anything so would 4600 work for me with a slightly larger tire and stock ride height in rear?
4600 are a direct OEM replacement while 5100 are a step above that. 5100 are more a towing/hauling shocks and we personally prefer this over the 4600
@@ShockSurplus I have a 2015 gmc Sierra 1500 1/2 ton want to install the 5100 I tow a boat and a trailer no lift but run 33” x11.5 tires I know the tires are a lot heavier than stock. Should I use the 5100’s?
I have a 1997 f250 Light duty with a leveling kit and 33s , don't really do any crazy off roading just some beat up dirt roads . Should I go with the 5100s or 4600s thank you?.
4600s unless its lifted, then you need the 5100s. Sometimes the 5100s are too firm, so the Rancho RS7MTs may be better suited, they're softer overall.
I’m not that familiar with auto parts. Does the 4600 still require springs.
the 4600s are designed to work with the factory springs (whether coilsprings or leaf springs, front or rear). You dont need to buy new springs with either the 4600 or 5100.
Thanks for this comparison.
Im looking at one of these for my new rig which is giving me a less than stellar ride. I have a stock height 2022 GMC Sierra 3500 HD Diesel - with the X31 package - which I will use 50/50 to carry my 3100lb camper. I presently experience a bit of porpoising after installing replacement overloads.
Thoughts? Thanks
Bilstein 4600 is an OEM replacement strictly for stock height and using the vehicle mainly as a daily driver. Bilstein 5100 are a towing and hauling shock and better tuned and valved for that.
@@ShockSurplus Hi there. I watched the video again and wow it is full of subtle and very good info !!
It has also helped me understand that I am probably headed in the right direction to fix my suspension woes.
What I took away from your comments on the 5100 was that lifted vehicles often have modified wheels/tires that add to the unsprung weight of the truck. The different valving and shock damping in the 5100s deals better with this additional unsprung weight. I am also guessing that demands from hauling and towing have the same need for a shock like the 5100s.
I remember hearing (from an engineer friend) a while ago that dealing with unsprung weight is often the "Holy Grail"of truck (and car) suspension engineers.
Keep up the great videos guys that are well explained !! Also good on you for pronouncing their German name properly !
The pleasure is all ours. We are really glad to hear you are enjoying our content!
Yeah there's a lot that goes into the suspension and get very technical. We try to keep it as informative but not too complex.
I have a 99 Jeep Cherokee XJ with a 3” Rough Country lift. The RC shocks that come with the lift kit are to be desired. I ordered the 5100s. I daily my jeep and seldom hit trails. The RC lift is very harsh over bumps in the road and streets. I’m hoping that the 5100s help with the jarring. Any thoughts? Thank you for the video. God bless you and yours In Jesus Name my friend!
The 5100s should be a big help. Usually the RC springs are pretty decent, they just do not do the best job of valving their shocks, so a good upgrade like those 5100s should do wonders for both comfort and control.
@@ShockSurplus awesome! Thanks
I use the 5100’s!
Great choice!
I got a f250 super Duty and I want it to rid softer but still have heavy load on it
helpful thank you
Can I used the 4600 with a 1.5 inch lift in the rear of my Colorado ?
Can I go 5100 in the rear bed and 4600 in the front of a Chevy Silverado 1500 2006 I seen that 5100 is 0 to 1 inch
Just bought a truck that has a lift I believe it’s 6” but I’m not 100% sure. The shocks are needing replacing just wondering how you figure out what size you need and what would be a good brand option for a on and off road kinda of unit?
Go to their website. It's a pretty good website that lays it out nice and easy. I believe the 5100 series can be used with a 6 inch lift
I recently bought a 2009 Chevrolet Silverado 2500hd 6.0l with a snowplow at stock height in with factory shock and I was thinking about Bilstein but wonder if I should go with 5100s?
4600s are for stock height, 5100s are for lifted vehicles. Basically the same shock, get whichever works for your ride height.
What do you think is the ideal shock for a 1st Gen Toyota 4Runner (front and back). Going to fix leaf springs and will also update shocks.
Depends what you want to do with the truck, if its going to be a daily driver, i'd suggest some Bilstein 5100s in their universal length applications.
I have a 2018 F250. 100% stock. I do pull a 28 ft camper in season, but this is also my daily driver. I like the 5100 color better than the 4600 yellow. But in the video it seemed the 5100 is only for lifted trucks, will the 5100 work for my stock height or should I get the 4600? Appreciate the help!
You can run the Bilstein 5100. For the 2018 Ford F250, the 4600 and 5100 are almost the same specs for compressed and extended where the extended is lightly longer by less than 1/2". We would run the Bilstein 5100 in your case.
I have a 2018 f150 and I would like to know if I can use b8 5100 stock
4600 good for stock 2500 cummins towing heavy? Or 5100 better?
Both are going to be equal
How do you tell when your front Bilstein shocks are bad?
when the vehicle is squishy, maybe a lot of bumpstop contact, uneven tire wear, which vehicle do you have? support@shocksurplus.com
I currently have rough county 2in bolt on leveling kit installed on my 13 f150 and my rear shocks are still factory stock. Should I get the 5100 or the 4600. Kinda stuck between the two.
4600 are strictly an OE replacement. 5100 are a step above and better for towing and hauling. Really up to you on what your needs are.
@@ShockSurplus This was helpful, thank you. I'm in the same position, more or less.
My Tundra has the heavier "E" rated tires. So, I mounted the 5100s. It is definitely a jouncier ride versus the stock OEM shocks that had 90,000 miles on them.
Jouncier?
@@legion1630 it's more rigid ride with the definite need to air down off road - or - on a New Orleans neighborhood street.
@@andrewinaustintx Ha ha! N.O. = worst roads in America!
Do you regret getting the 5100s? I am on the same boat. Have the E rated tires and will be needing to replace shocks soon and was thinking the 5100s but after seeing your comment I’m not sure anymore
@@kcast005 No regrets. - I live in a city with lots of pot holes. With the E rated all terrain tires inflated to 38 to 40 lbs PSI - I definitely feel the bumps more after the Bilstein install.
The 4600 bilstein is more soft then de Oem shock for Ram 1500? Thanks
They probably are a touch firmer however softer does not mean more comfortable. Most of our customers prefer the ride of a 4600 over stock.
Could I still use 4600’s on a truck with no lift kit but is leveled?
It depends on the vehicle. IFS sets up can use a spacer on top as it would mount to upper top mount. But ensure, if this is the case, that you studs have enough thread to tighten the upper mounts on the truck.
What is better for 2009 hummer h2
What if I want the 5100 series on my 2014 Silverado high country 2wd stock height truck?
They fit the same as the 4WD trucks
My 23 Toyota Tacoma off road came with Bilstein shocks I put a 2 in leveling kit on the front and a 1'' block in the back, will my shocks still work as for wheel travel ? it rides and drives good I just want to know if I need to buy a longer shock
Is there a difference between the 5100 and 5125?
In terms of design and function they are basically the same the 5125s are simply the name they use for 5100 shocks that are in the universal catalog and do not have vehicle specific mounts or tuning.
Hi, so the 5100 will lift my car? or both will provide same hieght?
the 5100 can lift some light trucks in the front, if they are coilover suspensions. which vehicle do you have?
@@ShockSurplus tbss
I’m trying to decide between these two I have a 21 Silverado trail boss which ones should I get?
They do not make 4600s for the Trail Boss so 5100 really would be the only way to go for you out of the two. The front struts are adjustable from stock TB/AT4 height up to 1.1-1.2" of lift over stock, so if you were looking to keep it stock height or get it closer to level, the 5100s have you covered. www.shocksurplus.com/products/bilstein-6112-strut-spring-rear-b8-5100-shocks-set-for-2019-2022-chevrolet-silverado-1500-trail-boss-4wd-w-0-1-2-lift
I want to change the shocks on my 2004 Ford F 350 SuperDuty Lariat Dually Diesel Crew Cab and I want to use a very powerful brand.Which one do you recommend that I use.I will really appreciate this because I have been trying to do this for a long time but I have not been able to get somebody to advice me on it. I will like the one that is strong and poweful with all necessary applications considered .
Bilstein offer a 0-2.5" shock that would work with your vehicle. This is going to make it feel firmer and designed for towing and hauling.
www.shocksurplus.com/products/bilstein-5100-monotube-gas-shocks-set-1999-2004-ford-f-350-4wd
I have a 2010 Dodge 2500 4wd, no lift but I am running 315 / 70R16 tires. I pull a 32 ft 12,000 lbs 5th wheel camper and a 25ft gooseneck used to haul hay and my tractor around 5000 lbs. Which would be better for me, the 4600's or the 5100's?
The Bilstein 5100 would be better for your need as they are a towing and hauling shock. Bilstein 4600 are an OE replacement setup. Those would be more towards how the factory shock were on your vehicle.
Longer lead up please.
Thank you for your insight, we will be looking into this.
Would the Bilstein 5100 be better than the rough country 3 in ones ?
From our customer's experience, we would say yes. However from our own, we would not know as we don't carry Rough Country nor do we have plans to do so.
You are comparing class to trash. RC’s are junk.
I work in the oilfield and my 2013 ram 2500 takes a beating. Looking for a shock that will perform well in this environment. Any suggestion would be appreciated
I've done 5100s every time on my trucks and they are great, especially if you're going to beat it, however, for one of the stock trucks I have, I may try the 4,600 for a smoother ride
2013 ram 1500 2wd stock height, which one would be better ?
The 4600s are the only ones available for your ride, so there's that! =)
Is there a way I can exchange my 4600 for a pair of 5100? Bought from you guys
If the parts are brand new, not installed or used, you can return them within the appropriate window and exchange them accordingly.
www.shocksurplus.com/pages/return-exchange-request
5100 on my leveled F150 0-1 inch lift
I tried to find a comment mentioning a 2nd gen Tacoma (2005) so my apologies of I’m doubling up. So 4.0 4x4 Off-Road that’s mostly stock. It has the supercharger but I doubt that impacts what shock to use. It has the stock bilsteins on there but I’m looking to upgrade since at 149k miles I think they’re still original. I’m leaning towards 5100 mainly because of the great things I’ve heard. I don’t haul anything, nor do I go off-roading much (but I want to change that!). Which would you recommend? Thank you for a great video!
It really depends on what your want to build this to. Bilstein 5100 is a good starting point but they are not as capable as other products if you're planning to build this into an off-road focused rig. Please contact our sales team directly and give us some more information so we can help steer you in the right direction.
@@ShockSurplus do all bilstein shocks 5100 come with an opening by the bushing on top and bottom?
Question: I bought a set of Fox 2.0 Performance shocks for my '21 Ram Power Wagon from you guys on Black Friday. I have yet to install due to crazy work schedule and home remodel. I found your comments on the 5100 interesting as I upgraded to 35" tires on my truck. I bought the new shocks because of the constant vibrations and jarring feeling while driving on the concrete roads in Houston. Are the Fox 2.0 shocks comparable to the 5100 shocks in regards to controlling the added unsprung weight? Just want to get a bit smoother ride quality. Thanks!
Fox 2.0 provides a softer feeling for daily and firms up when you're off-roading or rather when the suspension is cycling aggressively on the trails.
Bilstein is better for towing and is slightly firmer feeling over Fox 2.0
I'm looking to install one of these two items on my Hummer H3 adventure 2006 it's on stock 33 and I want to get more information on which will be the appropriate shock for my truck?
If the truck is stock then I would go 4600 unless you like to go off road a lot.
@@ShockSurplus yes I love to off road I'm also adding the mickey thompson baja boss AT LT 285/75/16 which are 50/50 on road and off road since I love to off road I should go with the 5100 or 4600 I'm not lifting the truck it's a Hummer H3
Can I put 5100 bislstein on my 1989 Toyota 4Runner sr5 v6
Bilstein offers only a 3-4" version for their Bilstein 5100. If you're completely stock, you would have to run the Bilstein 4600.
I just bought a 2006 Chevy Silverado 2500HD, it has 200k miles on it. The shocks have never been replaced, and as you can imagine at 200k they are ready to. Can someone give an opinion I should get when I will not be towing and looking for comfort?
Of the two, if it is stock height you will want the 4600s, however if you are not towing and you want maximum comfort, the Fox 2.0s might be the better call.
So the 5100s will not fit stock and for lifted only? Did I understand that correctly? My understanding was you could raise a vehicle with the ride height adjustment up to 2". I was hoping to get 5100s on stock suspension and rais 0.5-1" for a larger tire...
It depends on application. If you have coil over strut suspension from the factory like the front of most modern midsize and half ton trucks and SUVs you can use 5100 ride height adjustable struts to lift the vehicle. In most cases on vehicles where the damper is separate of the spring system like a 3/4 and 1 Ton trucks or Jeeps, you generally need to already have a lift with the 5100s as the shock can not lift the vehicle on its own. With that said there are some 5100s for applications like those that will fit at stock height.
Can the 5100 be put onto a non lifted super duty truck? I’ve watched some videos were people have put them on a non lifted but they are tow consistently heavy loads and wonder if that maybe is the reason that go with the 5100 over the 4600.
Yes you can put the 5100s on the Ford Super Duty trucks, they're only a tad longer than the 4600s - they're going to be near identical for towing
www.shocksurplus.com/search?query=super-duty-5100
if I want to level my 2014 4Runner can I get away with the 4600 all around? or I'll nees 5100? I don't off-road all highways
the 5100s would be the answer to level the vehicle in the front, since they have an adjustable height spring collar. The 4600s are for factory height. Subscribe up and check out some of our other 5100 related videos that dive into this.
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On 2018 the F-350 factory truck would the 5100 fit. Thanks
Bilstein states 2-2.5" but based on stock measurement and the Bilstein 5100, they would work from 0-2.5"
Bro I have a 1991 4x4 Toyota truck, which shocks you suggest good enough for rough and off roads? The truck is driven on all roads but a lot of rough roads in my country
Will a Bilstein work on a 2006 Nissan Titan 4x4 extra cab/
Yup! Bilstein makes 4600 and 5100 struts and shocks for the Titans
I have a 2010 Sierra 1500 with a 1.5 inch spacers installed. I tow a 6500lb camper trailer 10 times a year. Which would you recommend. The 4600 or 5100?
He’s gonna say the 5100’s
Can I put drop springs on any of these ???
No you can not
I like the zinc plated compared to the yellow painted but I dont have any lift on my truck it is just the factory height but I prefer to use the zinc plated,as a matter of fact the colour of the shocks that I have on the truck now is yellow and I don't like it most especially because of the colour,I prefer something like black or something dark.Will it be possible to use the zinc plated and not give me any problem.
We linked you the Bilstein 5100 in a previous comment.
will the 4600 strut be best for lowered trucks. i have 3 inch drop in the front and 4.5 in the rear.
which vehicle? 4600 and 5100 vehicles are meant for factory height or minor lifted vehicles, not vehicles with 3" of drop. Belltech would be a better option. But give us a shout support@shocksurplus.com and we can dive into more details.
2014 silverado 1500 5.3L z71. Ink the I have a 3 inch drop and the rear 4.5. I removed lift block and overload springs. I have installed 3.0 rear shackles I couldn't
New to this. Question. Am I to understand you can get a lift on your vehicle with the 5100 application with out leaf spring, spacers or by other traditional means etc? But not the 4600 because it lacks the grooved rings?
correct. not all vehicles can achieve lift with the 5100 series though, only independent front suspension applications with coilovers in the front
Are Bilstein4600 better than Jk Sahara factory shocks (no lift)? For a daily driver.
They are a tad bit firmer than OEM due to the monotube design. They are a great upgrade for a lot of people who want something quite similar to OEM.
What is stock on 22 tacoma off road DCSB?
They are a Bilstein monotube that is around 1.5" in diameter with smaller pistons to match. So although people like to say they are a 4600, they are far from it.
I am trying to find the best shock for a 2015 Silverado 3500 Dually, all stock…. Suggestions?
Depends on your goals and use cases. We have a great buyers guide that should be a huge help for steering you in the right direction here www.shocksurplus.com/pages/choosing-shocks-for-your-2011-2020-chevrolet-silverado-2500-3500
Great video. Very informative. Question though.
I have a Tacoma TRD-OR with shocks that are slightly smaller than the 4600s. If I get a hard topper on my bed, should I upgrade to the regular 4600s or do anything with my suspension? I like having a plush, non bouncy ride since I stay on the construction filled streets.
We would probably skip out the 4600 and go to the 5100 or the 6112 setup.
I occasionally max out my payload by hauling gravel, bricks, etc. in my stock 2017 TRD sport. It's pretty close to level now but I'd like the bed to be slightly higher than the front so that it rides level when I haul, instead of squatting like it does now. If I add a new leaf pack in the future that raises the bed a bit, will the 4600s allow for that? Or should I install 4600s up front and 5100s in the back?
We would suggest running 5100 all around. That'll overall ride more equal as they're tuned to be in conjunction with that same series. However there is no right or wrong, and it's still ultimately up to you.