Funnily enough in the comics he did all of those things to have time with his favorite hero the flash, the flash forgave him and erased his timeline and reset it so it would still make him admire the flash but never become the reverse flash and is now working at the flash museum But bro still a menace
@@pokedweeb8920ah because before Barry remade the OG Speed Force all of the other forces including the Negative Speed Force were just mute forces of nature. Notice how only now Speed Force Nora talks to Barry in the real world? Because she now has a body like the other forces. In the earlier seasons Barry had to be in the Speed Force to talk to it. It actually makes no sense that the Negative Speed Force didn't get an evil Nora body. In fact I thought maybe she was the Negative Speed Force when she was going crazy to kill the other positive forces.
@@R0EREN I mean, he himself admits that he tapped in to the negative force, in doing so he triggered it, think of it this way, some version of Thawne was the first, possibly the only entity, to introduce form, and function, to a power that transcended time and space, in doing so all of it, throughout infinities, plural, took shape and form according to HIM. He was the only imprint to work off of, now regardless of where the current Thawne stands, we have a everlasting cycle of himself, tapping into a paradoxical force shaped of his own future/past hatred, effectively making Thawne the only true desired host of the negative speed force, infinitely, regardless of the multiverse
True that is right he hated Barry it is has something to do with Barry saving everyone while Edward couldn’t with his speed so he then tapped into the negative speed using Barry’s hatred
They could be, as in the DC universe concepts, like anger and speed are living things, even cities have living spirits, as seen in the comic Storm Watch.
Maybe they'll make a show about the pre-season 1 timeline where Barry goes to the future and saves that crowd and where he doesn't become the Flash until 2020 and his kids names are Dawn and Don and Crisis happens in 2024
Eddie didn't hate barry either I hope you know thawne literally saw in the flash museum who he was supposed to become, he didn't need to hate barry yet
From what I've heard, he was initially using the normal speed force because he wanted to be just like the Flash, but when he went cuckoo and decided to be the Reverse Flash he switched over to the negative speed force.
@@wildtime845he's referring to the fact that in Michael bays transformer movies Optimus prime always destroys a deceptions face in the most brutal ways
It's a predestination paradox. Barry was chosen to be the Flash and the Negative Speed Force chose Thawne as a result. It knew full well that Thawne's narcissistic tendencies would make him susceptible to It's influence. That as soon as he would go public, Barry would trigger him and it would take control of him.
Essentially (black flash, avatar for the death of speedsters to keep balance) (Reverse flash, the suffering of speedsters to maintain conflictxaccelerationxpersonal progress aka a increase in speed by being a villain ) (The Flash, the purpose [of the speedforces intervention and personification] and the avatar of the speedforces benevolent will, the one who maintains harmony between death, hate, and life/life, by being a hero)
Reverse flash-speed increaser. Black flash-speed limiter. Flash-speed controller+divine/speedforce intervener. Without the flash there’s no point in having a black or reverse flash as there’s no reason to introduce the risk of the speed force being controlled by mortals if it isn’t to protect the universe.
I still say that the black guy with the slow force facial expressions are limited to that of a 14 year old attempting to complete a hard test paper. “What the fuck this mean…” “fuck this paper” “oh I got it now” 3 fkn expressions
@@hypnoticrobotgaming yes, it was. F*** your comics. There are countless people who enjoy the IP but are never, ever going to read the source material. Let people enjoy things.
I haven’t seen the show, but I would love to see something where he goes around them manages to tap into the negative speed force on his own without being an avatar, only so he can hate Barry on his own terms
Actually that's the original plot line for eobard thawne in the cw the flash tv show. But most likey the timeline has been changed so many times that the reverse flash could have a altered time paradox now.
That doesn't even make sense coz when he got his speed he didn't hate Barry yet. Why can't they just keep it like the comics where he made his own speed force
Oh noooo but evil just needs to have chosen Thawne. Couldn’t be for even a moment the dude chose his own path, right? Just like Good And Evil in the original Charmed series. Oh no, the demon’s don’t have a choice in the matter, Eeeeevvvvviiilllll calls to them!!!!! Spell to make the Charmed ones evil? “What just happened to us?”-Paige “I don’t know but I feel like killing someone would be fun”-Piper “Oh! Yes! That sounds amaazing!”-Phoebe. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 (just examples, I know this isn’t the fandom for Charmed but it’s the best example I got for how pathetically clique tv shows could get lol)
He got the negative speed force because of his future hate for Barry, he started to hate Barry due to the negative speed force, it’s what makes him a paradox
@@Leveltry he's explicitly said he created the negative speed force in the show they just decided to forget thst he said that coz the writers have no consistency
@@Jason-zi8beFACTS! This is because they aren't actual readers of the already existing material available to them. And what happens when you hire writers who have absolutely nothing to do or choose to ignore that material you get the MSHEU Phase 4 of the failing Marvel Universe 🙄!
@@imstuff205 And I am not watching it XD, youtube shuddenly started popping out some videos and shorts about the show, more accurrate to say, comparing that was nice when it started and has become rather awful, and I am not just talking about the quality of effects, camera and such, even the actors feel like they dont put much feeling into the acting, it feels like watching an old show. So yeah, no one is forcing me to wach and comments are not meant to be just of support, if you like the show, it is fine and there is nothing wrong with that, but me and many other think that has become something rather untasteful
The negative forces and other forces storyline were so bad like why were Barry and Iris telling the ppl that they were technically there parents and why were they calling Barry and Iris their parents which isn’t much better
So my theory: The Negative Speed Force connected to Eobard and granted him the knowledge to build a machine to strengthen his connection. Otherwise, how could Eobard be wrong about what his machine did, but the same instructions worked for Barry?
The only weird thing is Arne still says he was possessed. In the overnight channel they met the man unexpectedly. But man this does shed a lot of light on them
I think, that both this scene, and that one scene in season 5, are more complicated than we all think. Thawne created the negative speedforce, and later it become a circle, like with Barry and Thawne, like with Barry and Savitar.
These 3 are so overconfident, it looks like they can defeat Darkseid, Dormammu, Sauron, Ultra instinct Karen, Bowser and Darth Vader combined by telling them how easy their existence is because of this and that bland BS, and that they are the ones the real geniuses...
The other thawne was brought back by postive speedforce to get a fresh start since he was a remnant & positive speedforce enforcers usually caught those remnants
That is one hell of a page-turner tbh... Thawne's never going to become good... Never going to stop hating Barry Allen... Never going to die... Never going to be powerless... Never gonna give you up... Never gonna take you down... Never gonna run around and desert you...
bro’s EXISTENCE is to hate barry💀
Pretty much
That makes him the Stinkmeiner of the DC universe.
Dam Barry can’t get a break 😔
Funnily enough in the comics he did all of those things to have time with his favorite hero the flash, the flash forgave him and erased his timeline and reset it so it would still make him admire the flash but never become the reverse flash and is now working at the flash museum
But bro still a menace
Petty just Petty
Others: Takes off the mask to reveal the face.
Thawne: Takes off the face to reveal the mask.
😆🤣😂
Could you say that he was doing... the *reverse* of what others were doing?
he definitely puts on shoes before socks
Reverse negative speed force bruv
@@weatherman1504😂😂
the negative forces look straight out of a high school drama
Facts
cw lol
It is the CW
CW™
"GiVe mE your luNCh moNie DwEeB"
This is BS, it takes away from the brilliance of thawne to say it choose him it’s weak sauce.
I mean it makes since to me. I'm pretty sure a force of nature that can somehow have a Consciousness wouldn't appreciate someone taking its power.
Yea that’s true but it does show how much he hates I mean HATES Barry.
@@pokedweeb8920ah because before Barry remade the OG Speed Force all of the other forces including the Negative Speed Force were just mute forces of nature. Notice how only now Speed Force Nora talks to Barry in the real world? Because she now has a body like the other forces. In the earlier seasons Barry had to be in the Speed Force to talk to it. It actually makes no sense that the Negative Speed Force didn't get an evil Nora body. In fact I thought maybe she was the Negative Speed Force when she was going crazy to kill the other positive forces.
him directly creating the negative speed force would’ve been a ton cooler
@@R0EREN I mean, he himself admits that he tapped in to the negative force, in doing so he triggered it, think of it this way, some version of Thawne was the first, possibly the only entity, to introduce form, and function, to a power that transcended time and space, in doing so all of it, throughout infinities, plural, took shape and form according to HIM.
He was the only imprint to work off of, now regardless of where the current Thawne stands, we have a everlasting cycle of himself, tapping into a paradoxical force shaped of his own future/past hatred, effectively making Thawne the only true desired host of the negative speed force, infinitely, regardless of the multiverse
This doesnt make sense because when he got his powers he didnt hate barry yet
True that is right he hated Barry it is has something to do with Barry saving everyone while Edward couldn’t with his speed so he then tapped into the negative speed using Barry’s hatred
But before he hated him he looked up to him that is why he wanted to be in the light but Barry didn’t let him or something
Thats why hes a living paradox
But he didn’t tap into the negative speed force until hating Barry
Bro you have to shut down your brain to (be able to) watch this series
“You didn’t have sex with your wife last night, it was me Barry!”
😂😂
Can’t kill her just become her
Barry needs a new husband
@@LordSalazarsRevenge *husband* ?!
@@eliasxhyliateam2575 Wife I should say
So all negative speed force users are red lanterns now?
essentially
No but yes 👏🏽
Red lantern is rage not hate 😂
@@markangelofernandez7188what emotion do you think hate is? 💀
They could be, as in the DC universe concepts, like anger and speed are living things, even cities have living spirits, as seen in the comic Storm Watch.
I can’t get over this scene when he literally ripped off the dude’s face to reveal a car seat style face mask package 😂
Once Again the Face of Eobard Thawne was destroyed and Harrison Wells in it’s place
@@cooper3814wait what???
I’ll miss his portrayal of Thawne/Reverse Flash…I kinda feel like we got robbed of a FINAL SHOWDOWN between him and Barry during the Finale 😢
Maybe they'll make a show about the pre-season 1 timeline where Barry goes to the future and saves that crowd and where he doesn't become the Flash until 2020 and his kids names are Dawn and Don and Crisis happens in 2024
@@OG-ColorfulAbyss. Maybe we'll even see that war that is comming
@@randomdude7386 doubtful lmao
Thats the thing they have a thats last forever lol
That final showdown was S8 Finale
He has a whole power system hating him💀
But he didn’t always hate Barry when he made the machine he admired Barry if they gonna make bs plot lines at least keep it consistent
I agree, this is bs
Eddie didn't hate barry either I hope you know thawne literally saw in the flash museum who he was supposed to become, he didn't need to hate barry yet
From what I've heard, he was initially using the normal speed force because he wanted to be just like the Flash, but when he went cuckoo and decided to be the Reverse Flash he switched over to the negative speed force.
I'm sorry, you want consistent plot from this show? They can't even keep consistency from lines a paragraph or line later
Thawne fucking created the negative speed force.
Yeah, just as Barry created the speed force, idk what kinda bs they started doing after like season 5 man
@@theguthboyw8982 Barry didn’t create the speed force, the speed force and the negative speed force already existed they just tapped into it.
@@christiantrent1030 I’m pretty damn sure that at least comic Thawne MADE the negative speed force to fuck over Barry
@@Klausbro well Barry didn’t invent the speed force and he got powers so…
@@christiantrent1030 he does generate it tho
I won’t deny that the show used to be so so much better but just imagine dying by ripping your own face off
Bayformers Optimus has joined the chat
Ngl I don’t know what that is from besides the fact that it’s transformer related
@@wildtime845he's referring to the fact that in Michael bays transformer movies Optimus prime always destroys a deceptions face in the most brutal ways
Thawne's hair is weird. Not Thawne's style
Ok and
@@brave__remmy2x611 I thought it looked weird too. No need to be rude
Because that version of thawne was in prison the negative forces killed and rebirth him in a deffirent version of thawne who didnt have hate
Makes him look old
Comics accurate
That bass boost at the end destroyed me lmao
😆🤣😂
"I tapped into you" 💀
The director of this show cannot have someone reveal something without slowly meandering forward with their arms open and its hysterical
Bros making more plot holes than jupiters ascension 💀
Thawne got his speed before he ever hated barry.
And above else he was like no1 fan of flash
@@sahilsinghrautela743 the negative speed force know that he was destined to hate barry, that why it chose him
@@ryokane558 bro that's bs and you know it
@@darkhamburger2178 bs maybe but it make sense
It's a predestination paradox. Barry was chosen to be the Flash and the Negative Speed Force chose Thawne as a result. It knew full well that Thawne's narcissistic tendencies would make him susceptible to It's influence. That as soon as he would go public, Barry would trigger him and it would take control of him.
Essentially (black flash, avatar for the death of speedsters to keep balance) (Reverse flash, the suffering of speedsters to maintain conflictxaccelerationxpersonal progress aka a increase in speed by being a villain ) (The Flash, the purpose [of the speedforces intervention and personification] and the avatar of the speedforces benevolent will, the one who maintains harmony between death, hate, and life/life, by being a hero)
Reverse flash-speed increaser. Black flash-speed limiter. Flash-speed controller+divine/speedforce intervener.
Without the flash there’s no point in having a black or reverse flash as there’s no reason to introduce the risk of the speed force being controlled by mortals if it isn’t to protect the universe.
Casually rips own face off😭
and has a mask on underneath😂😂
Why does he do that anyway? Why is he ripping his real face off to become wells?
@@jasonbloxor1773 Because that Thawne wasn't Thawne.
Thawne ripping his face off always made me think, what's the point of having a mask underneath his face... When he could wear it over his face...
I still say that the black guy with the slow force facial expressions are limited to that of a 14 year old attempting to complete a hard test paper. “What the fuck this mean…” “fuck this paper” “oh I got it now” 3 fkn expressions
LMAOOOOOOOOO
Why was this so specific, and worse, accurate
💀
Bro best scream I've ever heard an actor do.
Doesn’t make sense he only became reverse flash because he loved flash he worked at his museum and idolised him
The new suit looks terrible😢 It was such a good suit
Fr everyone is like "Oh the new suits are comic accurate so they are amazing" like hell no it looks horrible
@@D.The1st the suit that i say was the best was feom season 4 when with the thinker
@@pat1r1ck I agree
S1 and S2 suits looked the best for me because they were made of actual fabric.
S5 was the worst suit and the S4 suit was the best ngl
Never pause mid face rip...jesus christ.
Imagine the Red Lantern team up..
Seeing so many people hate on Flash here. I promise, it used to be SO much better in the early seasons.
No, it didn't. Read a comic, this show is atrocious
Nah it wasn't... you're just comparing a nugget to a huge turd
@@hypnoticrobotgaming yes, it was. F*** your comics. There are countless people who enjoy the IP but are never, ever going to read the source material. Let people enjoy things.
No it wasn't just garbage.
@@sleepyzzz7055 it was, absolutely atrocious
It would have been better if Matt lescher's thawne got his memories back resulting getting his vibration and glowing eyes back
-They’re after you, Barry. But it’s okay, you’re really fast.
-Thanks, other Barry.
I got the reference😂😂 Archer!
I haven’t seen the show, but I would love to see something where he goes around them manages to tap into the negative speed force on his own without being an avatar, only so he can hate Barry on his own terms
Actually that's the original plot line for eobard thawne in the cw the flash tv show. But most likey the timeline has been changed so many times that the reverse flash could have a altered time paradox now.
With just a couple cgi lightning effects and a rubber mask, this already visually looks better than the whole flash movie
He ripped his face off so hard he changed suits
Dude used his anger as a way of the dark side
Negative Speed Force Musical: High Speed Drama
Bruh doesn’t the reason the negative strength force give conflict the ending of flash. When cobalt becomes negative avatar
Maybe Thawne was the OG avatar for the negative speed force but maybe it saw cobalt as a better avatar so it adopted cobalt as such
Eddie was a desperate attempt by the Negative Speed Force to create a new Thawne that would hate Barry quickly.
I get it’s just easier to keep using that actor but it literally makes no sense why Reverse Flash likes being Harrison Wells so much 😂
Because handsome apparently
Good god the acting.
Why does he always WHISPER?!
That doesn't even make sense coz when he got his speed he didn't hate Barry yet. Why can't they just keep it like the comics where he made his own speed force
Oh noooo but evil just needs to have chosen Thawne. Couldn’t be for even a moment the dude chose his own path, right?
Just like Good And Evil in the original Charmed series. Oh no, the demon’s don’t have a choice in the matter, Eeeeevvvvviiilllll calls to them!!!!! Spell to make the Charmed ones evil? “What just happened to us?”-Paige “I don’t know but I feel like killing someone would be fun”-Piper “Oh! Yes! That sounds amaazing!”-Phoebe. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 (just examples, I know this isn’t the fandom for Charmed but it’s the best example I got for how pathetically clique tv shows could get lol)
He got the negative speed force because of his future hate for Barry, he started to hate Barry due to the negative speed force, it’s what makes him a paradox
@@Leveltry he's explicitly said he created the negative speed force in the show they just decided to forget thst he said that coz the writers have no consistency
@@Jason-zi8beits not that the writers forget, its literally brought up here lol, he thinks he did that but he didn't
@@Jason-zi8beFACTS! This is because they aren't actual readers of the already existing material available to them. And what happens when you hire writers who have absolutely nothing to do or choose to ignore that material you get the MSHEU Phase 4 of the failing Marvel Universe 🙄!
other villains: removes there mask to reveal their face
Thawne: removes face to reveal his mask
LIKE WHAT LOL?!?!?
Some say he's the reverse...
@@wedge9t reverse man
IT WAS ME BARRY!!!!!!
This show looks trully awful, it feels more of an school project than a dc show... not that dc has done much good work in that regard
Agreed
is someone forcing you to watch it?
@@imstuff205 no, but that don't change tmr fact it's shit
@@imstuff205 And I am not watching it XD, youtube shuddenly started popping out some videos and shorts about the show, more accurrate to say, comparing that was nice when it started and has become rather awful, and I am not just talking about the quality of effects, camera and such, even the actors feel like they dont put much feeling into the acting, it feels like watching an old show. So yeah, no one is forcing me to wach and comments are not meant to be just of support, if you like the show, it is fine and there is nothing wrong with that, but me and many other think that has become something rather untasteful
@@imstuff205 js admit it it’s shit my ngga
Bruh thawne needs to channel some of that hatred toward his damn barber that cut is TRASH
TBF he WAS locked up in ARGUS before all this.
@@Princess_DYS I’m sorry bro there’s NO excuse for that yee yee ass haircut , going bald would have been better …
When there a yin then there a yang. It the balance of all things that give it life to submission or rebellion.
"I tapped into you" guess it was always the reverse flash...
“Remember when you were making out with your first girlfriend, and you came right as she touched you leg? It was me Barry, I WAS YOUR GIRLFRIEND!”
The negative forces and other forces storyline were so bad like why were Barry and Iris telling the ppl that they were technically there parents and why were they calling Barry and Iris their parents which isn’t much better
This is why Despero was trying to tell Team Flash that Eobard Wells need to be let to die.
BRO THE GOOD EOBARD THAWNE😢😢😢. I GUESS THERE'S NO MORE GOOD EOBARD THAWNE
So my theory: The Negative Speed Force connected to Eobard and granted him the knowledge to build a machine to strengthen his connection.
Otherwise, how could Eobard be wrong about what his machine did, but the same instructions worked for Barry?
Ik his like evil but like damn i feel bad. He became good for once and cuz his destiny says he needs to hate Barry. He ends up dying, kinda brutal
The thumbnail made me think it was Tim Robinson for a second
Bro is the CEO of hating bro has no chill
so his main weakness is memory loss
Other villains: pulls off mask to reveals face
Thawn: pulls off face to reveal mask
The forces are doppelgangers of the original but evil
That was a low key terrifying scene
Still doesn't explain why he sheds out of his body
Ikr? It what is been more interesting if the two Thawnes met.
Because he was reborn through him and he destroyed the Remnant.
What song is playing?
Отменяй
The only weird thing is Arne still says he was possessed. In the overnight channel they met the man unexpectedly. But man this does shed a lot of light on them
Ngl best scene in a long time
There be another season if they up played the horror
What's the name of the background music used?
Sounds like a song by crystal castles
I love this dude the guy is so confident in his work he even bow and said brilliant and flexing about he's achievement at the same time
This is awful, i wonder why CW was sold off
Some would say he is the reverse.Now it makes sense
song?
Отменяй
Artist?
Song name?
Leaving a comment here so I get notified for an answer
Song REDCHINAWAVE - Отменяй
I think, that both this scene, and that one scene in season 5, are more complicated than we all think.
Thawne created the negative speedforce, and later it become a circle, like with Barry and Thawne, like with Barry and Savitar.
na why tf did it get so bass boosted at the end bro unalived my eardrums 💀
Worst. Show. Ever. 💀
my bad
Agreed
True
One of the coolest and most impressive feats the reverse flash has.
Eric Wallace: yeah… nope.
From the biggest fan to the most meancing arch nemesis in fiction. Reverse flash is one hella of a character
Damn, I’d be embarrassed to be in this show. It’s EXTREMELY lame.
Facts. But they got paid hella for mediocre acting and subpar CGI.
I hate the dialogue in this show
This show really was a f****** headache
yesterday i saw tom cavendough at comic con, he seemed like a nice dude to his fans
Ugh terrible
Seems like they gave the diversity hires his job to be inclusive! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I wished that this never went off the air.
This is awful
The lesson is never miss a due paper in college or your professor will come after you.
Bro literally just said he made a machine to tap into the negative speed force he didn't say he made the negative speed force
Me watching this thought that he was gonna wear the old RF suit when he tore off his face but I was disappointed
These 3 are so overconfident, it looks like they can defeat Darkseid, Dormammu, Sauron, Ultra instinct Karen, Bowser and Darth Vader combined by telling them how easy their existence is because of this and that bland BS, and that they are the ones the real geniuses...
Bro the sound from the last part removed my ears
Maaan I love the shyt out of Thawne no homo but dude is top tier villain and has noo apologies for it and I can so relate to that
You got this thawne! They are telling you lies. You did create it and you made it from you. It's your speed force to do whatever you want.
THE SHAFT😭😭
The negative speed force does not look intimidating whatsoever
I liked him being a threat because he was smart enough to make his own speed but now its just chosen one bs again
The other thawne was brought back by postive speedforce to get a fresh start since he was a remnant & positive speedforce enforcers usually caught those remnants
That goofy reverse flash mask its hilarious😂😂😂
Bro they’re acting like it’s a god when the entire show and its villains are science based
Gods are known to be forces of nature.
While the forces are the forces behind everything that makes the multiverse work
This man instantly changed from his badass suit to his hooded yellow pajamas. Smh.
Bro really said "Mask on, fuck it mask off" 💀💀
Pov:when you enemy team in minecraft wants to join to this team
That is one hell of a page-turner tbh... Thawne's never going to become good... Never going to stop hating Barry Allen... Never going to die... Never going to be powerless... Never gonna give you up... Never gonna take you down... Never gonna run around and desert you...
Thawne takes off his face to show the mask💀