Love our new EDM and can't wait to show you guys what it's capable of. We are going to make some crazy parts and already have more videos in the works. LETS GO!!!
I miss messing with edms. I was called weird cause i simply loved the smell of burning electrodes in the morning. Edit: should have mentioned i used plunge edms though i also messed with a bit of wire edm too, but mainly plunge.
Holds that accuracy if you do all the routine maintenance. EDM is very maintenance savvy. Numerous consumables and cleaning routines depend on the accuracy of the machine. Definitely a great looking rig. I used to run sodick everyday for 5 years. I miss it due to the cleanliness and pride taken to do that work. You should do a video on everything it takes to maintain that precision. And all the little intricacies involved in running the machine lights out for hours.
I'm at the end of an 6 year internship at an EDM only shop and one of the main takeaways is that maintenance ALWAYS pays off. Right now I have (with supervision) 5 machines to maintain daily which run 20 hour programs. The main thing I do now is cleaning, maintenance and positional accuracy measurements to make sure everything is perfect. If a supervisor ever says that you can skip cleaning, he knows nothing of EDM. Cleanliness is king!
I started out in 1985 with our first SODICK wire, a 1-WH..... (it had a punch tape reader). Next came a couple of BF-275's and a couple of submersible A-320D's with AWT, automatic wire threaders....THEN we got into the machines with the linear motors and that was a game changer. We also added a "C" axis which was actually fun to have. All SODICK wire machines.
Adjust your micrometer to one micron and take a look-it's simply mind-blowing. No matter how frequently I use my Quantumike, the fact that humans have achieved such precision in machining never ceases to amaze me.
The AL600P is engineered with some impressive features - it's a stunning machine! A BIG Texas-sized congratulations to Dave on your retirement and Mark on your promotion. Dave, here's years of relaxation and new adventures ahead. Mark, wishing you tons of success in your new leadership role. I look forward to the partnership with Sodick and all the great things to come. 🙂
After you get your EDM Academy up and running, you'll want to look at 'carbon cutting'. I've cut both graphite and steel (/alloys), these are completely different critters.
from a machine rebuilder perspective this is incredible. the only failure point i see is the linear rails but with as little tool pressure as an edm. it should never be and issue its really an incredible machine
really love the belt buckle showing off throughout the video titan! what brand is that so i can get one myself? I'm hoping its Shunk or Kennametal and can get on your site!
I want to see how the programs are edited. As an Agivision user for many years, I find it hard to beat the philosophy of object editing through the .sbl file that GF now allows to be used in Uniqua.Greetings from Brazil!
Yes, but only as awesome as the quality of the linear rails guiding the axis, not much is said about them here, but I suspect they are the real stars of the show!
Může být velmi zajímavé krájet 0,002mm a ladit generátorem drsnost. Na tomto stroji budou precizní uhlové řezy a ukosy. Má to lineární motory jak na X, Y, tak i na U, V osách ?
Most places can’t but some have high end Zeiss and similar CMM’s and other equipment that can operate in this domain with the right thermal and vibration controls in place.There are conventional Cutting Machines out there that can work to Nanometer domain (Nanotech and Fives-Cranfield for example) so 1 micron on WEDM whist excellent is not amazing.
I was watching some utube video where a guy made a home made wire edm and was telling of how wonderful it was. It did kinda function but just barely. There's a reason that something like this Sodik costs a half a million dollars.
They are frictionless so they have no wear and no backlash. The linear coil floats on top of an electromagnetic force that is created by the linear motor and the magnets. This creates a direct servo drive instead of an indirect system. So when the Sodick sends a signal to slow down, it doesn't have to wait for the signal to be converted into mechanical motion like with a ball screw, instead, the response is instantaneous which drastically reduces wire breakages.
@@trevorgoforth8963 I see. I should have put two and two together. I saw a 3d printer with linear motors. I appreciate your insight into the benefits on such application. thanks
Sodick is hard to beat with their 10 year accuracy guarantee. They are also very competitive on price and they have excellent support. All the major brands make a good machine but when you consider how much machine you are getting for the price, it's Sodick all the way.
@masoncnc Used to be back in the day, Agie made incredible innovations and had super support. When GF combined agie and charmilles, the machine's were still pretty good, not as good as the old days, but the problem is horrendous service support.
inertia... not that there are high velocities at work, but lots of moving mass. i just wonder how you can separate the axis of the lower wire guide from the upper one when cutting tapers. :thinking_face:
Click the link in the description that says, "for more information on Sodick" then fill out the form and we can connect you with someone that can answer that question!
More EDM is better even for low precision manufacturing... All other processes must be reimagined to take advantage of EDM... Scaled up also to be used for bigger parts... Parallalized to allow doing things even faster by having more processes done at the time on the different sides of the parts, taking advantage of the non vibration of the machines parts
Some high speed, high precision mills do have them. Sodick has them on their mills. The difference is, other machine tool builders don’t make them, so they have to buy them from a supplier which drives up the cost of the machine making it harder to be competitive. Sodick makes their own linear motors which helps them keep the cost down and control the quality.
Usually on a CNC machine you want the gearing associated with a spindle drive, because you don't want the cutting forces to backdrive the motor in any way to maintain precision while doing those deep cuts. A linear motor is basically a flat (linear motor) without any gearing, so it would be far more easy for cutting forces to move your axis out of position.
My old company bought a 600 new about 10 years ago i went on the training course for a week The service guy was on it more than i was fixing it, it was impressive to behold visually but the machine was a huge mistake slow, buggy, clunky os, Agie are much better in my opinion
@trevorgoforth8963 Awesome! Be cool to see some Graphite vs copper electrodes and what kind of RA they get. When the machine can hold micron tolerances.
Sorry but I call bull shit on holding 1 micron, it would need to be a a temperature controlled room not an open shop. A 10 guarantee on tolerance 🤣🤣😂 ye as long as they come out on a maintenance schedule. I know edm a super accurate I've been running one for 20 years but I know my limitations as with temp and age of machine so stick to the simpler side of punch and dies.
may be it have internal termo stabilizing pipes everywhere like many Swiss tools and structure design to compensate it to some acceptible level. Zerodur scales, superinvar in key places Athmosphere pressure also can be tracked and compensated in software. In theory it can.
@@AABB-px8lc if thats the case then 🤯. Thats a big work shop with big machines creating heat and with it having big glass front with the sun going by its a big stretch to have stabilisation soft ware I know a wire eroder dont move quick as im mm/min but to say it can hole 0.001mm through out the day and not be in a temp controlled room.
@@ricardo-iw9sq Later it show linear direct driver with glass scale for close loop, I think it 999.99% something like sitall or zerodur, definitely not window glass. I can imagine few vacuum or semi-vacuum pipes with interferometer along main axes to recalibrate every day or hour, actually they are very cheap - just metal pipes, 1 cent laser, 1 photo doid, cube splitter, flat mirrors, arduino all around few bucks. The key in stability is metrology frame - be it thick cast iron frame with zerodur or interferometer or some other exotic trick - as soon as it can be read by software you always can programmicaly compensate. We do not talk about ASML 0,5 nanometers, but 1 micron is possible.
@@AABB-px8lc The glass scales are made by Heidenhain, not sure where they source their glass. The combo of the massive solid casting and all of the ceramic makes it stable. The combo of the linear motors and glass scales keeps it repeatable.
@ Dang, I don’t envy you haha but that’s just this model, they might have others that run smaller wire. I know they have oil machines so I bet they run smaller wire. What machines do you currently have?
1um per year! Sounds awful! For IC scanners, the stage is good to a few nm with super fast motion and acceleration. um sounds like tech from 4 decades ago.
I started out in 1985 with our first SODICK wire, a 1-WH..... (it had a punch tape reader). Next came a couple of BF-275's and a couple of submersible A-320D's with AWT, automatic wire threaders....THEN we got into the machines with the linear motors and that was a game changer. We also added a "C" axis which was actually fun to have. All SODICK wire machines.
Love the way the X and Y axis move independent of each other to avoid tolerance stackup in the axes. Beautiful machines.
Love our new EDM and can't wait to show you guys what it's capable of. We are going to make some crazy parts and already have more videos in the works. LETS GO!!!
Merry Christmas!!!!!! 🎄🎄🎄
I miss messing with edms. I was called weird cause i simply loved the smell of burning electrodes in the morning.
Edit: should have mentioned i used plunge edms though i also messed with a bit of wire edm too, but mainly plunge.
Amazing accuracy, how many cuts are needed for a smooth surface with PCD Diamond material?
@@ChannelVariabel I think that is a great video topic! We will make it happen!
@@Chimpy1 Haha yeah its a fun machine because it's different than all the rest. I don't think that's weird, its better than hating the smell! lol
Holds that accuracy if you do all the routine maintenance. EDM is very maintenance savvy. Numerous consumables and cleaning routines depend on the accuracy of the machine.
Definitely a great looking rig. I used to run sodick everyday for 5 years. I miss it due to the cleanliness and pride taken to do that work.
You should do a video on everything it takes to maintain that precision. And all the little intricacies involved in running the machine lights out for hours.
I'm at the end of an 6 year internship at an EDM only shop and one of the main takeaways is that maintenance ALWAYS pays off. Right now I have (with supervision) 5 machines to maintain daily which run 20 hour programs. The main thing I do now is cleaning, maintenance and positional accuracy measurements to make sure everything is perfect. If a supervisor ever says that you can skip cleaning, he knows nothing of EDM. Cleanliness is king!
0.002~6" wire is no doubt fussy in that way, but most shops run 0.010" wire and some of those machines are practically kept outdoors and look like it.
Guess the +GF check bounced
GF is shit, no support in the states any more. Sodick is badass, our ALN is a beautiful accurate machine
I started out in 1985 with our first SODICK wire, a 1-WH..... (it had a punch tape reader). Next came a couple of BF-275's and a couple of submersible A-320D's with AWT, automatic wire threaders....THEN we got into the machines with the linear motors and that was a game changer. We also added a "C" axis which was actually fun to have. All SODICK wire machines.
Can't wait to see what you have in store for this Awesome machine Trevor!
To hold one micron is absolutely insane! How it should be, Sodick is setting the standard!
Adjust your micrometer to one micron and take a look-it's simply mind-blowing. No matter how frequently I use my Quantumike, the fact that humans have achieved such precision in machining never ceases to amaze me.
so cool ! used to manage a machine shop but was never able to get the owners to go to the next level
you are a landmark in the world of processing machines. it is necessary to look up to you
By far the best looking EDM I've seen! And from what it sounds like, the most accurate too. This will be a fun machine to put to work!
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Awesome looking machine! Can’t wait to see more!
Titans need a Kern CNC Machine, machining in the single microns in practically every material
Or a Yasda 😊
Love it!
Do you show some automation on this machine?
Erowa can handle diffrent holder with one robot. From the big frame to the small holder 😉
Such a beautiful, well-built machine! Can't wait to see its first cut!
The AL600P is engineered with some impressive features - it's a stunning machine! A BIG Texas-sized congratulations to Dave on your retirement and Mark on your promotion. Dave, here's years of relaxation and new adventures ahead. Mark, wishing you tons of success in your new leadership role. I look forward to the partnership with Sodick and all the great things to come. 🙂
After you get your EDM Academy up and running, you'll want to look at 'carbon cutting'. I've cut both graphite and steel (/alloys), these are completely different critters.
Were the temples of the TITAN GILROY glasses also manufactured on a CNC milling machine?
from a machine rebuilder perspective this is incredible. the only failure point i see is the linear rails but with as little tool pressure as an edm. it should never be and issue its really an incredible machine
really love the belt buckle showing off throughout the video titan! what brand is that so i can get one myself? I'm hoping its Shunk or Kennametal and can get on your site!
Wow beautiful machine! This is exciting 🔥
We have 2 Sodick EDM's. I can say for sure after 10 years ours are still as accurate as they were when we got them. No BS.
Beautiful machine with incredible accuracy! What does it cost? And can I get it with four easy payments of $39.99?
Nice Doors. Loading with Forklifter 😊
Oh yeah, new machines, very exciting!
I'm starting to suspect you guys have a time machine and are bringing these machines from the future, man.😮😮😮BOOM ❤
That is an amazing video!
Man if I was able to get into machining EDM is what I'd love to do! So good! BOOM!
I want to see how the programs are edited. As an Agivision user for many years, I find it hard to beat the philosophy of object editing through the .sbl file that GF now allows to be used in Uniqua.Greetings from Brazil!
Slick machine! Love it
Just out of curiosity: What is the price tag (or range) on this machine? I imagine that if the quality is on the next level, so is the price.
This is so dickin cool.
Awesome machine 🎉
We use Mitsubishi at our shop. They're very reliable.
Interesting! 🤔
Linear motors are awesome!
Yes, but only as awesome as the quality of the linear rails guiding the axis, not much is said about them here, but I suspect they are the real stars of the show!
Greetings from Poland.👍👍👍👍
Damn, that is 100 times more accurate than our CAD system at work. :D
Může být velmi zajímavé krájet 0,002mm a ladit generátorem drsnost. Na tomto stroji budou precizní uhlové řezy a ukosy. Má to lineární motory jak na X, Y, tak i na U, V osách ?
Yes linear motors on X, Y, U, and V
Guys! I admire and envy your machine park.
they really are great machines
How do you measure the accuracy of parts that are pushing the boundaries of accuracy in general
Most places can’t but some have high end Zeiss and similar CMM’s and other equipment that can operate in this domain with the right thermal and vibration controls in place.There are conventional
Cutting Machines out there that can work to Nanometer domain (Nanotech and Fives-Cranfield for example) so 1 micron on WEDM whist excellent is not amazing.
You don't need lab equipment for this :)
@ so what’s your approach to measuring in the sub micron domain?
great video
I use one of those!
I was watching some utube video where a guy made a home made wire edm and was telling of how wonderful it was. It did kinda function but just barely. There's a reason that something like this Sodik costs a half a million dollars.
I'd like to know more about the frictionless drive for the xy
What would you like to know? I will gladly help answer any questions
They are frictionless so they have no wear and no backlash. The linear coil floats on top of an electromagnetic force that is created by the linear motor and the magnets. This creates a direct servo drive instead of an indirect system. So when the Sodick sends a signal to slow down, it doesn't have to wait for the signal to be converted into mechanical motion like with a ball screw, instead, the response is instantaneous which drastically reduces wire breakages.
@@trevorgoforth8963 I see. I should have put two and two together. I saw a 3d printer with linear motors. I appreciate your insight into the benefits on such application. thanks
Sodick or aegie charmills?
Sodick is hard to beat with their 10 year accuracy guarantee. They are also very competitive on price and they have excellent support. All the major brands make a good machine but when you consider how much machine you are getting for the price, it's Sodick all the way.
Everyone knows agie/charm is better
@@masoncnc How so?
@masoncnc Used to be back in the day, Agie made incredible innovations and had super support. When GF combined agie and charmilles, the machine's were still pretty good, not as good as the old days, but the problem is horrendous service support.
There's almost zero machining force with EDM, so the idea of separating X and Y axis travel is amazing.
inertia... not that there are high velocities at work, but lots of moving mass. i just wonder how you can separate the axis of the lower wire guide from the upper one when cutting tapers.
:thinking_face:
With some many new machines every few episodes, are you secretly pulling older ones on the backend ?
Where are yall based out of? I’m in brenham tx
We’re over in Flower Mound, just outside of Dallas
@ cool. I’ve watched yalls vids for years. Some of, if not the best work done in the world. Kinda crazy
@@Leland387That’s awesome, thanks for the support! If you’re ever in the area, stop by the shop!
I am your subscriber from Middle East I would like to know How much it will cost me to own this machine 7:25
Click the link in the description that says, "for more information on Sodick" then fill out the form and we can connect you with someone that can answer that question!
More EDM is better even for low precision manufacturing... All other processes must be reimagined to take advantage of EDM... Scaled up also to be used for bigger parts... Parallalized to allow doing things even faster by having more processes done at the time on the different sides of the parts, taking advantage of the non vibration of the machines parts
That kind of accuracy requires : Zero Gravity ,,, .
Ótimo ❤
Yeah, new tool day.
Handscraping my SODICK :D
So why dont milling machines use those buttery smooth linear motors?
Some high speed, high precision mills do have them. Sodick has them on their mills. The difference is, other machine tool builders don’t make them, so they have to buy them from a supplier which drives up the cost of the machine making it harder to be competitive. Sodick makes their own linear motors which helps them keep the cost down and control the quality.
Usually on a CNC machine you want the gearing associated with a spindle drive, because you don't want the cutting forces to backdrive the motor in any way to maintain precision while doing those deep cuts. A linear motor is basically a flat (linear motor) without any gearing, so it would be far more easy for cutting forces to move your axis out of position.
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How fussy is this machine about temperature?
My old company bought a 600 new about 10 years ago i went on the training course for a week
The service guy was on it more than i was fixing it, it was impressive to behold visually but the machine was a huge mistake slow, buggy, clunky os, Agie are much better in my opinion
no stack axis design can only be achieved on edm machine,such design is not viable on traditional machine tool
Wow
Ask for a sinker too.
We’ve got one on the way!
@trevorgoforth8963 Awesome! Be cool to see some Graphite vs copper electrodes and what kind of RA they get. When the machine can hold micron tolerances.
Sorry but I call bull shit on holding 1 micron, it would need to be a a temperature controlled room not an open shop. A 10 guarantee on tolerance 🤣🤣😂 ye as long as they come out on a maintenance schedule. I know edm a super accurate I've been running one for 20 years but I know my limitations as with temp and age of machine so stick to the simpler side of punch and dies.
may be it have internal termo stabilizing pipes everywhere like many Swiss tools and structure design to compensate it to some acceptible level. Zerodur scales, superinvar in key places Athmosphere pressure also can be tracked and compensated in software. In theory it can.
@@AABB-px8lc if thats the case then 🤯. Thats a big work shop with big machines creating heat and with it having big glass front with the sun going by its a big stretch to have stabilisation soft ware I know a wire eroder dont move quick as im mm/min but to say it can hole 0.001mm through out the day and not be in a temp controlled room.
@@ricardo-iw9sq Later it show linear direct driver with glass scale for close loop, I think it 999.99% something like sitall or zerodur, definitely not window glass. I can imagine few vacuum or semi-vacuum pipes with interferometer along main axes to recalibrate every day or hour, actually they are very cheap - just metal pipes, 1 cent laser, 1 photo doid, cube splitter, flat mirrors, arduino all around few bucks. The key in stability is metrology frame - be it thick cast iron frame with zerodur or interferometer or some other exotic trick - as soon as it can be read by software you always can programmicaly compensate. We do not talk about ASML 0,5 nanometers, but 1 micron is possible.
@@AABB-px8lc The glass scales are made by Heidenhain, not sure where they source their glass. The combo of the massive solid casting and all of the ceramic makes it stable. The combo of the linear motors and glass scales keeps it repeatable.
What is the thinnest wire it can run?
.002” with an option, .004”without.
@@trevorgoforth8963aha okay thanks for the answer, but that’s to big for us😂😂 normally running with 0,002” to 0,0007” (0,05mm to 0,02mm) wires
@ Dang, I don’t envy you haha but that’s just this model, they might have others that run smaller wire. I know they have oil machines so I bet they run smaller wire. What machines do you currently have?
Если смотреть без звука. То чувак просто много много раз жмёт руки двум другим чувакам.
Casting house=foundfy
When Blohm buys GF, on to the next.
So no +GF+ anymore ?
GFMS getting sold to united grinding. Awesome machines, still
Yes,i know, but the logo is also gone at the end of the video
Thats more accurate......than air, literally the air causes more variation than that. Lol
Sick - love the gold. TRUMP 2024. LFG!
MAKINO IS BETTER BUTTON >>>>>>
1um per year! Sounds awful! For IC scanners, the stage is good to a few nm with super fast motion and acceleration. um sounds like tech from 4 decades ago.
Completely incomparable application..
Get a rollomatic 5 axis grinder.
I started out in 1985 with our first SODICK wire, a 1-WH..... (it had a punch tape reader). Next came a couple of BF-275's and a couple of submersible A-320D's with AWT, automatic wire threaders....THEN we got into the machines with the linear motors and that was a game changer. We also added a "C" axis which was actually fun to have. All SODICK wire machines.