The First Damage Control Attempt for Tarkov & Gray Zone Warfare Release
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I dont wanna advertice any other creators here but Nolan did you see what Onepeg said in his newest video? about the Discord Mod Q&A with Nikita? its Crazy Nikita WANTS this to go this way....
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I hope everyone knows tencent is making arena breakout. Its pay to win free to play garbage.
@@zakizdaman they dont care about standing on their morals man, crying about p2w and scamming while taking the bag to ad read a scam clone with p2w. Landmark, Logical and now this dude, everyone is fucking running a scam its really sad to see.
Arena Breakout knew exactly what they were doing with sponsoring you lmao
They sponsored landmark too haha😂😂
The timing of this self induced fiasco for BSG was amazing for HZW and ABI. It's honestly comical.
Absolutely worth whatever money they threw at TH-camrs for the sponsorships haha
But yet it's legit more garbage than tarkov.
@deadlock_problem how would you even know its not even out yet
I’ve never been so proud to see a sponsored promotion
Nikita bout to throw hands lol
Arena breakout IS chinese shit pay to win also, i dont get why you all get mad for tarkov being p2w but praise arena ....
@@agr2190 its not even out my guy, what do you mean its pay2win (yea I know about the mobil game but this is pc so we will see)
@@agr2190if Nikita gonna troll us, we gonna troll him
Legit
Bro jumped ship fast.
And the new sponsof to annoy nikita is the chefs kiss
Bro jumped ship months ago, Nolan has been working on other game content for a while now. It's really good to see him getting his passion back because Tarkov content seemed to start wearing him down heavily.
I didn't jump ship I'm flicking their ear while standing next to them.
@@MrSnrSquishy eh, diversifying is neccesary with how volatile games are. Tough it is good that he gets his will to punch nikita back
@@NoiceGuy yeah a chinese copy with p2w model nice one
@@mrphoenix5951as if a Russian game with P2W model is any better.. lmao
Its just disappointing that they think we want ptw stuff and not the things they promised us
I don’t think they “think we want ptw stuff” they need money to continue operating as a company and a business. Pretty simple to understand that you need money constantly coming in to continue operating a business. Secondly most of the tarkov community paid for their game years ago it’s not like the game was just released recently when it’s blown up in popularity it’s been available for purchase for what 8 years now? none of that old money is helping them pay for anything and hasn’t for years. They need more money to continue working on tarkov and nobody is forcing anyone to buy this new edition. If you really think extra pockets and some bs lvl 3 skills is going to change the game that dramatically then your not very experienced in tarkov.
@@OhBreezy That’s all well and good, but a 250$ edition?? That price is inexcusable, especially considering it’s the only way to access the PvE mode, which is one of the most requested features of all time. This game being around and in “beta” for 8 years is completely on BSG. That’s not the players fault. When they sold EOD at 150$ (not a small amount), they also promised that those same supporters would get access to ALL SUBSEQUENT DLCS. This new PvE mode, whether they like it or not, is DLC, and needs to be given to EOD players. You made a promise to players willing to drop a fat amount of money to support you. Uphold that promise. That simple. If you need money that badly, then just be transparent with the community. “Here, give us 5 bucks, and you can have a hideout cat”. Hell, they could’ve even gotten away with charging EOD players an extra 10-20$ for the PvE mode and the overall reaction, albeit probably still negative, would have atleast been manageable. This is an unprecedented amount of greed coming from BSG, and it’s a spit in the face to their long time supporters who have put hundreds and thousands of hours into their game.
@OhBreezy ???? Did you not read what I said idagf about the p2w shit could care less. It's the fact they are trying to say that a pve mode isn't something that is considered dlc. They already sell stash space, and I didn't care cause that's whatever. The whole point is they are breaking a promise that was made to all EOD players that we would get "all features that tarkov release. If they want to sell micros to help with development, that's fine.
@@whatilikeapples exactly. They broke their promises. What next. Damage resistance for 1000$? Permanent Thermals for 2000$???
The Arena Breakout Intro is pure gold, love it
It's funny, but that game looks like a cheap Chinese rip-off.
@@chrishaugh1655 I disagree entirely. It looks great.
Well, it pretty much is.
@@chrishaugh1655 It's everything Tarkov wanted to be, on Mobile! try it!
@@chrishaugh1655 Fr. the game looks like complete shit.
The problem is not expensive pack, the problem is EoD was promised to be the ultimate edition. That is why so many people, including me, bought it straight up. And don't forget BSG didn't want to include Arena in the EoD since Arena is apparently a separate game.
It's not only this. P2W, lying, mechanics that shouldn't be in the game, this matchmaking stuff. I feel like I forgot sth crucial but it's just too much to take.
You know Tarkov's cooked when NoiceGuy is taking an Arena Breakout sponsor
lowkey looks fun might try it at least it won't be 250$
ill pay 249 tho
Not like you had to pay 250 to play tarkov
All of these streamers can be bought with sponsorship money; Arena Breakout was just the high bidder. They only cared about Tarkov to the extent that it got them the greatest amount of money through a viewership combination of people that would watch a high number of ads and people that send them free money through bits. You will see them all jumping from game to game chasing a dollar for the next few months.
@@hifiguy77 streamers ruin games just as much as bad devs do. lol arena breakout is fucking trash, its a mobile game being ported to pc. arena breakout is for people who cant buy a good pc, only have a phone and wont buy any of the other available good games.
@@eeeeeeee543 no, you dont have to, but when you pay 150 and you are promised that was all you needed to pay and that promise was broken then you have to have a stand. its not a matter of cost, its a matter of principle.
250 dollars is OUTRAGEOUS.
and yet... people are out there buying it and defending their choice as some sort of "I'm free to spend my money." not realizing this just signals to BSG that this sort of thing is okay to pull and it ruins the future for everyone.
Then buy standard? No one is forcing you to buy the most expensive version
@@eeeeeeee543 you dont get it.
That is 250 before tax, also the Euro which is more expensive than the dollar it is also 250 euro, 330 euro post tax and xsolla fee, absolute bs
@@SofaKingAwsim You don't get that nobody is forcing you to buy the most expensive version
the arena breakout sponsor is fucking hilarious, keep it up bro!
First LVNDMARK & now Noiceguy with the Arena Breakout Infinite intro! I'm dead!
Ye but arena breakout is a good game tbh
@@user-sg2pj6bd8h oh don’t get me wrong! I’m definitely trying it out! They just got a huge boost because of all this! Them and Gray Zone Warfare.
Money, money money. And they can promote what they want. Bsg is just sus nothing more. They own fault
thats the most gigachad sponsor ever nolan
i mean that game is trash too. its literally a p2w chinese tarkov. this is why gamers are brain rotted to the core. you will always dump trash for worse trash for worse trash.
@@joshmiller9783Bro, the game isn't even out yet. The real brainrot is people like you who act like everything about a new game is trash despite not even knowing anything about the game.
@@mikedebakker5820 It's a mobile game port lmao, people already know what it is for the most part.
@@mikedebakker5820 its not out yet? Its on phones right now dude. You can go download it on your phone and play it right this instant. All they are doing is porting it over.... its gonna be trash... just cause tarkov devs shot themselves in the foot doesnt mean another trash game is magically good.
@@joshmiller9783difference is that arena breakout is free and tarkov was $50-150 for eod and is now $60-$250
The Coked-Up Nikita arc has started.
For Persistent PvE, they could just run a local server which the phones home at the end if the raid to save
Yea them hosting the servers is the only reason it might need to be expensive, but if you could have just hosted them locally there would be no justification for this price. This sucks, and knowing they are almost certainly going to start going hard to block spt sucks more.
Dude must've gotten into Zelensky's coke stash
Honestly they don't even need to communicate at all with the main server. SPT has a local server you run that saves everything no problem.
@@iamishin7675people have multiple PCs and want saved progression
The only reason I could think of for not running a local server would be because their server side software is so horribly optimized no reasonable gaming pc could run it and tarkov at the same time. It’s definitely not to prevent hacking, they clearly don’t give af about that.
Would love to see Gray Zone content from you. Especially now after what has happened with EFT
All of these TH-camrs and streamers doing the Arena Breakout shoutouts is amazing haha
I think viewer count for GZW is only low right now because its still closed to the general public, once we all get access to actually play then lots of people will want to keep up with the new info.
I for one will be following your GZW content for sure.
I watched a review of gze. Seems at best uncomplete average game with big flaws. Its overhyped.
Its going to flop
@@phoenixsuiThe game is in pre-alpha, no shit it's not gonna instantly be the best thing ever. But it has all the potential in the world.
@@mikedebakker5820 I wasnt very happy about dev response to obvious problems like camping the helo landing pads while arriving players cant defend from the helicopter as they are stuck until they get released. The answer was then walk. instead of ok we look into it and make you able to shoot from your seat or something.
@@phoenixsui Wow I must've missed that, if they actually said that then yeah I agree, that's a pretty shitty response. But the game could still end up great, time will tell.
The sponsorship had me on the floor 🤣🤣 you rock brother!
It's on par with 'I said I wouldn't sleep with anyone else - and we were awake all night - there was no "sleeping" involved babe.. why you mad?'
english please
@@jacksonc7951respectfully, the comment is already pretty damn clear
@@jacksonc7951 lol average tarkov player doesn’t know anything about relationships
it’s a message of a girl who cheated on their bf, sleeping = sex, tarkov devs basically cheated on their players
@@skorpion7866 😂😂😂
@@jacksonc7951 thats the most english sentence ever
why does my single-player game even have a queue, it's a 15 MINUTE queue FFS....
server availability they don't have that many they will over time
What server? Im the only player! Just load the assets and the ai and go.@GhostHippiesElite
@@accountuser8663can your computer handle it?
@@accountuser8663that's not how it works
I saw a guy playing Minecraft in between session. That’s the way to go i suppose
Gray zone looks amazing and I can't wait to try it out personally!
eh, its kind of underwhelming. but we'll see
No it does not that game looks like ass
does not look anything close to tarkov in terms of graphics. looks too arcade
Three Nikita ball polishers in here lol. Don’t act like Tarkov looks amazing either.
@@jerodfarmer165 lmao just because im stating the truth i'm a "ball polisher". Tarkov has better graphics overall than all of those tarkov inspired games
I just read the reddits post interviewed with Nikita and you’re right it doesn’t even sound like him, something is up man
Probably got investors. Usually how companys end up greedy
Aren’t they a private studio still? Companies when they go public start behaving in all sorts of wacky and greedy way.
Hang in there bro I really hope you continue making TH-cam content obviously I don't want you to do that if it's going to be negative for you or if you can't make a living but I think you are one of the best news channels out there for gaming. I didn't watch as much of the grayzone content simply because I don't generally watch games that I can't play because I don't have access to them so I'm really just waiting for this to actually be playable.
Nice to see the NoiceGuy rebrand. I look forward to seeing whatever fantastic content you decide to provide going forward. Godspeed.
I'm super interested in both new games, thank you for covering them!
Bro... you are killing it, well done good sir.
Lmao 😂 bro all the major Tarkov streamers are being sponsored by arena breakout like crazy right now 😂 love it
I love your videos. Always easy to follow and hit all the main points.
My thoughts on bsg doing this are, had they asked us to help, or said hey we need to make money to push for 1.0 or sometbing like this, everyone would have bought it and it wouldn't have been an issue. I got it in 2018 and have spent 0 on it since then.
Instead we got what seems /feels like a middle finger....
Cannot wait for gray zone though!
My guess with Grey Zone is alot of people will be much more interested in it once there is public testing for them to get their hands on. Not being able to play it yourself is a big turn off for a lot of people while watching someone else have a good time
lmao, great sponsor spot. I imagine they reached out to your for this golden opportunity of a product (re)placement
imagine, on release day they say we just bought access to the beta not the full game.
Spoiler alert, release day is never coming lol
@@MisterButterfingerslook at start citizen; they announced that they were gonna release in march last year. Still in alpha with hella microtransaction. Id rather play SPT instead of paying 250 for shitty servers with friends. Heard that some modders are working on SPT with friends
XD nikita said "you can keep a game atleast 5 years in "beta" to justify malfunctions and bad design"
@@xzerohunter MPT is the coop mod for SPT, ive been playing it with friends these last few days, its fun.
Been a long time fan of your content and have enjoyed many hours of videos by you. Thanks for the great work!! I think you're doing a wonderful job with the content of videos you make, but I believe you should make videos about things because you want to. I know you're trying to make this content thing a career and support yourself, which you should do if that's what you're passionate about.
I enjoy your content because of how passionate you seem about the things you cover and only wish the best for you. Much love
Will you be able to upgrade the Gry Zone editions later on? If so, there is no reason to buy anything besides the standard version at first.
Personally - Am definitely getting Greyzone, at least the $250 edition.
What's that? It's only $35 for the PvP and PvE version of the game?
Not enough.
install SPT and SIT.
i've had SPT for a couple months and love it... i'm probably just dumb and will regret this question... but what is SIT? is it a game or... plz dont flame me, as i am a "gay black" man, legally you can't. 🤞🤷♂
@@jimharvey205 You got and ass on you alrite! Shake it dude!
Its a coop mod for SPT. Talking about it within the SPT is taboo as it seriously breaks the EFT ToS. @jimharvey205
@@RicodeWaard sounds spicy 🔥 lol luckily I have zero friends so I'll just read about it. Thanks holmes.
@@jimharvey205 Stay In Tarkov
VERY excited for gray zone, please cover it as much as possible
Definitely going to check Greyzone out. Thanks for the news about the release date and price points!
Bro.. the fact that so many of the big names are getting sponsored by ABI is insane and speaks volumes about their PR team. They know what they're doing, and I'm actually genuinely excited for it.
I would refrain having high expectation from a f2p Tencent game tbh
@@madaofan7378 Oh absolutely. But if some of my time is the only investment I have to make to determine whether or not I like it, that's a fair trade to me.
@@madaofan7378Their mobile version is arguably the best mobile game ever made, they clearly see a big opportunity here, it's a big company with a lot of recources, personally I can see them pull it off.
Excited for a game that steals your data and sells mhm.
@@seanpatrick9784 You know Discord is largely owned by the same company right? Since you're so afraid of them stealing your data I imagine you also don't use Discord? 👀
I believe grey zone is like shooting tarkov in the chest with a pm while tarkov is wearing level 6 Thor armor which normally would be a non issue but tarkov shot itself in the plate until it got zeroed and the chest has 1 hp
Found channel looking up news on topic of tarkov, will stick around a bit to see the news on those 2 new games
Have been excited for GrayZone Warfare ever since i discovered it thru a Riloe YT short. Looking forward to your coverage of this and other games other than EFT. EFT is soon to be just a memory.
I wish bsg would swallow their pride and reach out to the SPT devs for their code. They worked on it for free for the community and im sure would love to see it added to the main game. It would save BSG a ton of work cause they would be able to add mod compatibility (improved AI notably). Sure it requires a higher end system to run the server, so, for some they would be unable to, but that gives them the option to have a $15-$25 upgrade to have bsg host the server for you instead.
The server itself on SPT is pretty light. If BSG wanted the least amount of work, they could've made the PVE mode P2P to completely remove the need to use servers.
Gray Zone - Standard Edition, Tactical Edition, Elite Edition, Supporter Edition - more pay, more win, bigger pay, bigger stash, bigger secure container, same pay to win as EFT, not going to fall for this no matter how good is this game going to look.
Tarkov was basically my life for a few wipes. I have over 1000hrs in the game. It’s caught my eye since the announcement. I was pretty much addicted up until the cheating and other issues got to be too much to bear. This is so sad man
Will we be able to upgrade edition in GZW
they at lease need to just give the EOD players the PVE version for free
thats nowhere near enough and not even the point..
@@Cornwalas2 Its partially the point. But indeed much bigger than it.
They don't by the way. If you launch the game right now on an EOD account and hover over the PVE Zone, it straight up just tells you that you need the new edition to even play PVE.
@@XSAthena they are still working on an update be we get “ a new armband a custom dog tag and 6 months of the PVE version” as well a a few other small things
@@kin3174 The issue that I have with all the stuff they are saying to give us is, I don't want the game to be harder. In regards to the armband and dogtag it still just feels like a slap in the face for supporting the game for 5 years. Just my opinion prolly wont support anymore.
whats good first mane
Yo NoiceGuy! Keep posting about Grayzone! My buddy and I are super interested in it and can't wait to play this pve only mode. Also keep posting in general! I know this bsg stuff is really discouraging but there's a reason we all picked you for our info vs all the other creators out there. Keep on truckin brother!
Hey @NoiceGuy is there anyway for you to find out that if people who had eod and ended up upgrading g to unheard will get the new eod items like clothing, dog tag and whatnot.
It almost feels like they know the end is near and theyre trying to scrape as much money as possible
bro the ad too no way
Yeah this is my first time ever i won't skip an ad at the intro of a video
def wanna see you cover greyzone
My buddies and I are excited to try out Gray Zone as soon as we can get our hands on it!!
They could easily compromise by turning the Unheard edition into an early access situation. Take that 6 months and just make it so unheard gets early access to PvE and then after that it opens up for everyone else. Lets them scale servers while still incentivizing people to buy the new edition AND it doesn't really take away from the people who already bought it.
Do we know if the packages they’re selling will work like tarkov in the sense of if I buy the base edition but decide later to buy the higher tier ones will they just split the difference?
Yes we want to see Gray Zone
Honestly man, you've been my main/ Exclusive source of Tarkov lore/ news for years now. I'm super appreciative of you. If Greyzone is the new focus of the channel that's fine with me, I'll be right there with ya!
I’m super stoked for Gray Zone, personally. I hope to see you cover it more as it develops!
I’ve never seen gray zone before now, but I’m definitely going to check it out. Thanks for the recommendation.
I’m excited to try GZW
I'm very very interested in GZW and look forward to seeing how they proceed in its development.
I saw Greyzone & had it wishlisted on steam b4 I heard anyone talk about it - Finally hearing the pricing & that a release will be announced on Monday is the most content I have consumed thus far besides the POGcast
im really looking forward to gray zone and i might buy the support package!! i may never play tark again
When gray zone warfare came out i didnt really care about it. But after this new edition in tarkov i started looking for an alt game and gray zone looked amazing.
love grayzone but wanna play it and get my own first impression. Keep up all the great work :D
i love you man! nice to see you doing good after the tarkov canon event lol
For sure i will play Grayzone, looks brutal. Thanks for the video.
Gray Zone looks cool just hard to get super invested when we dont know when were going to get the game yet. Ill be interested in watching more when its out for the public
I really loved the gray zone warfare 80 hour review, your reviews always feel more indepth than many other creators out there
Genuinely excited about gray zone and will certainly try it. Hoping there's the option to upgrade from base game to supporter for the price difference should we love it.
Awesome thanks dude I signed up for Arena and planning to buy $100 version of GreyZone. Do you think based on talking to them, that they'll honor everything they're saying or is it best to get basic to avoid another tarkov experience?
I liked your coverage on GZW to be clear
PvE mode could minus well be on "Peer to Peer" connection if their server "infrastructure" doesn't allow it.
I played Tarkov for years with EoD edition, but eventually the quest grind and wipe cycles got quite repetitive. I don't like when game mechanics force me to play in a certain pace and if you start late during the wipe you are in a massive disadvantage and the big cheater problem is what drove me away. I play Tarkov at my own pace now. SPT Tarkov has amazing mods and it kinda reignited my enjoyment of the game. And I would suggest it as a learning tool for new players.
I should be mad because I was promised all future DLC content for free, but at this point I am quite apathetic.
im all in with GZW. I think its a refreshing new option in the extraction scene. And for the time in development its in my opinion in a good state right of the beginning, comparing it to EFT 2018
Before reading the details of the Unheard Of Edition, I had thought that EOD would eventually get the PVE mode, but you just paid upfront to get ahead of the queue.
Very proud of you for being professional, and I am happy to see you doing a sponsor. Thanks Nolan for everything you have given to us over the years.
I'm looking forward to both ABI and GZW
I wonder how cross compatible the mobile AB and the new PC version is going to be. Hopefully enough that I don’t have to sacrifice everything I already built up from launch.
He's gonna have the Server infrastructure now. No one's gonna be playing in awhile, he'll have all the server space they need.
Super interested and excited for GZW, didn’t watch your videos though because I want to be blind going into it. (It’s fun figuring it all out) the news on GZW is amazing though!
I want to know more about Grayzone. Just to put it out there.
my only question about greyzone is, will you be able to upgrade? im not one who can drop 100$ right away and would be pretty nice if the option to upgrade editions is there.
Also, the reason I'm not interested in Gray Zone is that I find jungles/tropical environs to be utterly boring. I also don't find assaulting shabby worn out, decaying hamlets and gunning down starving VietCong types to be fun or a challenge.
I want games in forests and mountains and western cities and towns etc.
I'm very interested in trying greyzone and arena
Me personally I love grey zone warfare and think it just needs time to get popular.
Keep up the good work niceguy👍🏻
you know when a game is advertising real time lighting as a seller its gonna be a banger
im interested in grey zone but im probably going to wait til its more polished
The Arena breakout sponsor bit is a fuckin hilarious swing back at bsg, noiceguy throwing haymakers
Nikita: "you do not understand my Special Monetization Operation"
I’m excited to try Gray Zone. I watched a lot of streams last week
I want to see you do Greyzone content as well.
Does anyone know how long the Editions are for purchase in GZW. I would like to start with the normal edition and see how the game is and then maybe upgrade for the supporter Edition. Thanks
Excited for gray zone. It looked like a lot of fun. Glad you enjoyed it. Got me even more excited about it.
LoL the sponsored ad is also a diss track 😂
Much respect brotha for being honest and staying open minded! 😊
Grey zone looked awesome to me. I'd love future content about it.
I was always hesitant to download the SP Tarkov mod , not now it’s free . Also I’m super pumped for Greg Zone warfare !
Not to mention the controversy that is removing EOD from sale, locking people out of p2w upgrades.
Love grey zone, but honestly and personally, for me I come to you for tarkov deep dives and information, and saw the grey zone gameplay thru other streamers