@@BushSage you say that but it was only playable for a little just before rotation then they reverted the nerfs on prince reneathal killing it instantly so yes this card might be holy wrath decent
Around turn seven, there will have been 20 cards naturally drawn between both players. Say half of those are minions or spells that summon them, that's 10 cards played and 10 minions destroyed. The rest are spells, for another 10 played and a total of 50. This is an extremely low estimate that assumes both players play little more than a single card per turn, don't discover extra cards, don't draw extra cards, don't have reborn minions or deathrattles that summon more minions, don't use cards that make big boards by themselves, don't use drinks, cast when drawn effects, return to hand effects... Ultimately it depends how fast the meta is, but I wouldn't write it off as quickly as Regis did either.
Its possible mulligans affect it too, drawing the initial hands of 3 and 4, assume a half mulligan for each, thats about 10 mana discount before the game even starts potentially.
Death knight gets the 8mana card that deletes both decks except for the 8 highest cost cards. I will try the handbuff warrior(start of game gets 7 cards shuffled into deck deal 2 damage) and Battlecry shaman. The class that sucks is libram spellburst paladin.
@@smooth3333 Well, 7/10ths of the hearthstone meta's I've played have one person already dead by turn 7, and that's less than half the mana reduction necessary to play the card by that math, although sure it might be a lowball... But cheaper board removal exists, like Twisting Nether or black hole for 8 for warlocks for an example off the top of my head. IDK if Reno is still in standard, it's been awhile since I've played, but they definitely exist in wild as an 8 mana full removal. Maybe if it's a super slow control meta that makes it to fatigue and you can just play it for 0 at some point, but this card also hits your own minions as well, which is a self-counter to that kind of strategy. Seems trash to me, as cool as the concept is.
I mean, I don't think the original races will get tags. They're just neutral flavor tags tbh. I think Draenai are different because the Eredar all either became Demons or Draenai, and we already got Demons, so screw it, let's get Draenai, who I'd say are like "Angels", but space.
@albrown122 Well yeah, I get that, I'm just saying from a Hearthstone perspective. From a WoW perspective? Completely bizarre. Hearthstone? Aight, you've kinda got me.
Also, no, draenei for Hearthstone are basically an Angel equivalent; from a celestial world, they are a mirror to the more Demonic characters, they have often "Holy" effects, and the most prolific of them have gone in "Holy" classes (Yrel, Velen). Idk about the entire context of WoW, but Angel's = Draenei for Hearthstone.
I'm already using the prince in rogue. With zero cost spells, amalgam, and the pirate with combo summona copy. You can get some really large repeated minions
I think The Ceaseless Expanse will see the most play in Druid. Generating tokens, drawing cards. Plus, Druid as always lacks board wipes. They're gonna want this imo.
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If DK has draenei support at decent levels, then Velen plus that card that destroys all minions and brings them back with reborn might get kinda nutty since he could technically trigger twice and just cause absolute insanity? That being said, pretty excited about this new set, lots of cards that look pretty fun to play with, and seems like a decent set to re-establish HS alongside all the players coming back from China.
As a wild player, pretty excited to play with the new warlock package. Raise Dead and Plot Twist + Elekk means plenty of demons that didn’t start in your deck without the randomness of discover. Plus the plot twist might make a mid-game Ceaseless Expanse play very possible.
Avatar of Hearthstone will fit in perfectly with my rogue deck. i made a wild rogue deck based on "multiclassing". starts off looking like snother class, has as many dual/tri class cards as i could get, has a tourist with some paradice warlock cards, has a bunch of "get random class's card" cards.. complete chaos. lol
You didn't mention it but Xor'toth the DH card is EXTREMELY interesting for board bouncing effects or anything that doubles battlecries or doubles cards in hand. 5 to all is pretty solid, but hitting 15 to all is devastating or game winning
Mmh, the Impact of the cards wont really depend on rarity, more on how much mana do u cheat in play and in the end unpredictable randomness of the effects of spells
I'm also hyped for this expansion and I didn't play HS since the Titans expansion, when I saw that goofy expansion that came after Titans I've gone into hiatus.
I mean 3 mana 3/2 divine shield into 4 mana 3/4 taunt deathrattle gain 6 armor into 5 mana later in the game to make a 6/6 divine shield taunt that gives you 6 armor again seems decent. Idk if it's worth giving up that slot on the board or risking your opponent copying it or stealing it but seems fun. Ingenious Artificer seems scary but probably not great in wild. If you can discount the Arkwing Pilot, would be so silly. Can't wait to see Mark combo it with the double end of turns 3 drop. Tentacle on 8 mana spell for Black Hole. Just another wrath. Archimonde seems silly if you have cheap ways to discover and discount demons but the art is awesome!! Velen seems funny or even good if it's not silenced or wiped with Reno.
instantly when i see absurd mana cost cards like this, i've got war flashbacks of getting OTKed with 25 health to a holy wrath and a sheenvala or molten giant.
Wait. Does nexus-prince work in Starship pieces? Spellburst triggers => put on piece => becomes part of the ship. That could be really fun to mess around with
I finally saved up for the mini set and we're already getting another expansion wtf. I hope burgle rogue won't have to craft new legendaries because that will be big oof unless I get really lucky. I wish it could have been a Vulpera-themed expansion for particularly obvious reasons, but I gotta say I'm pleasantly surprised. Love seeing Spellburst as a keyword again, and I'm already in despairge seeing the new druid and warlock cards. Maybe we'll see some extra burgle rogue support this time.
I believe they will really try to push mid / late game strats this expansion. With the whole starship gimmick. And i believe most people have been wanting that.
Is it just me, or is the phrasing on Xor'toth weird? Like, if it just adds one star to each side of your hand that then collide to deal 5 damage to all enemies, why does it say it adds.... *two* Stars to *both* sides of your hand? Like, is that a phrasing error in the reveal one? Because, based on how it's described in this video, it literally does not add two starts to both sides of your hand. It adds two starts to your hand total, one on each side?
Guys, the black hole has been teased in some Hearthstone's recent ad. I'v seen this card already, it was written : ... When You draw the perfect card. It's so sick to realize that they put clues in their ads
I think only minions have tribes, not hero cards (the DK cards aren't undead either, unfortunately) - the Jaraxxus thing worked because he was a minion before replacing your hero originally.
The 100 cost is broken in Warrior, Pally and Druid decks. Pally Holy Wrath will deal 100 damage, Warrior can gain 100 armor with the dradge mech and Druid can heal to full with tbar discover card.
@@KnownAsKenji Mill Rogue probably want something like this, they shuffle a bajillion Oracles in, the over draw of both your and opponents cards, on top of the removal, might be nice as a stall piece/board wipe when your just trying to live. Mill Druid would also probably want this
@@shrimpCurry I don't know, having 3 (times 2 if bran) cards on your board, hand and deck instantly die with no counter play is kinda booty. It can die before it's even played. High stat minions aren't broken. TNT is non-sense is my opinion.
Avatar of Hearthstone seems bonkers with Shudderblock, even if it doesn't always help you it'll at least simulate a Yogg type effect and that's always good
Some cool cards! Imo the starships should be mechs but then they popbably would be too hard to balance so thats why they have no minions type. Still feels not right.
Avatar of Hearthstone so far has just been silly for me but I've been playing it on turn 1 or 2 on tavern brawl. Don't know how you'd ever get to turn 9.
100 mana = holy wrath stonks. No longer needs shirvala
In any reasonable game I feel like Shirvallah would still be easier to play out for 0 for the same turn combo and 100 isn't always necessary to kill.
You would still need Shirvalla and Molten Giants in case of drawing them
@@BushSage you say that but it was only playable for a little just before rotation then they reverted the nerfs on prince reneathal killing it instantly so yes this card might be holy wrath decent
@@BushSagein a reasonable game, you don't play shirvallah
Just play some cheap secrets and a prismatic lens. 15 15+ board clear on turn 4
The ceaseless expanse doesn’t specify that it needs to be your cards, meaning that it might discount really quickly as well because of your opponent
Around turn seven, there will have been 20 cards naturally drawn between both players. Say half of those are minions or spells that summon them, that's 10 cards played and 10 minions destroyed. The rest are spells, for another 10 played and a total of 50. This is an extremely low estimate that assumes both players play little more than a single card per turn, don't discover extra cards, don't draw extra cards, don't have reborn minions or deathrattles that summon more minions, don't use cards that make big boards by themselves, don't use drinks, cast when drawn effects, return to hand effects...
Ultimately it depends how fast the meta is, but I wouldn't write it off as quickly as Regis did either.
Its possible mulligans affect it too, drawing the initial hands of 3 and 4, assume a half mulligan for each, thats about 10 mana discount before the game even starts potentially.
Death knight gets the 8mana card that deletes both decks except for the 8 highest cost cards.
I will try the handbuff warrior(start of game gets 7 cards shuffled into deck deal 2 damage) and Battlecry shaman.
The class that sucks is libram spellburst paladin.
@@smooth3333 Well, 7/10ths of the hearthstone meta's I've played have one person already dead by turn 7, and that's less than half the mana reduction necessary to play the card by that math, although sure it might be a lowball... But cheaper board removal exists, like Twisting Nether or black hole for 8 for warlocks for an example off the top of my head. IDK if Reno is still in standard, it's been awhile since I've played, but they definitely exist in wild as an 8 mana full removal.
Maybe if it's a super slow control meta that makes it to fatigue and you can just play it for 0 at some point, but this card also hits your own minions as well, which is a self-counter to that kind of strategy. Seems trash to me, as cool as the concept is.
@@saphironkindris They should give it Taunt, like Fanottem.
25:21 My girlfriend when she's trying to hype me up
Bro 😂
Starship feels like what the new Zilliax should have been. Build it as the game goes on and get rewarded with Unkilliax
Except when it gets poofed by Reno while dormant.
The fact that Draenei got a class before all the original races is mind-blowing.
Yea weird
I mean, I don't think the original races will get tags. They're just neutral flavor tags tbh. I think Draenai are different because the Eredar all either became Demons or Draenai, and we already got Demons, so screw it, let's get Draenai, who I'd say are like "Angels", but space.
@@ryanmoore8346 But demons weren't a playable race. Between the horns on their heads and their hoofed feet, they look more like blue demons.
@albrown122 Well yeah, I get that, I'm just saying from a Hearthstone perspective. From a WoW perspective? Completely bizarre. Hearthstone? Aight, you've kinda got me.
Also, no, draenei for Hearthstone are basically an Angel equivalent; from a celestial world, they are a mirror to the more Demonic characters, they have often "Holy" effects, and the most prolific of them have gone in "Holy" classes (Yrel, Velen). Idk about the entire context of WoW, but Angel's = Draenei for Hearthstone.
I'm already using the prince in rogue. With zero cost spells, amalgam, and the pirate with combo summona copy. You can get some really large repeated minions
can you post the deck code your running please?
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It's gotten me from silver 7 to gold 4. I haven't been keeping track but about 9 wins and 4 loses. Not refined much yet.
Brann avatar is so fun in Highlander warrior 😭
I think The Ceaseless Expanse will see the most play in Druid. Generating tokens, drawing cards. Plus, Druid as always lacks board wipes. They're gonna want this imo.
Plus they have infinite mana
Markmckz going to be really happy with that 100 mana card
Regis in 2050: You know... it's been 26 years since I played HS. Been out of the game for a while but back in 2024 I had a 11x Star Bonus.
Entire HS community: HELL YES Regis is back. LETS GOOOOO
*Recieves Regis with open arms*
Regis will always be recieved back with open arms.
Thinking that HS will still be alive after 26 years is more than optimistic
I thought this was a fan made set, but holy moly this looks fun and awesome!
I cannot wait to see a weird rouge mirror match of racing to the ceaseless expanse
It dies to any removal
Whoever plays it first looses
If DK has draenei support at decent levels, then Velen plus that card that destroys all minions and brings them back with reborn might get kinda nutty since he could technically trigger twice and just cause absolute insanity?
That being said, pretty excited about this new set, lots of cards that look pretty fun to play with, and seems like a decent set to re-establish HS alongside all the players coming back from China.
Shudderwock flashbacks with Velen triggering a bunch of saronite miners because they are Draenei. "How long can this go on!?"
Holy wrath is gonna go hard
Shudderblock with Avatar of HS will be giga fun
As a wild player, pretty excited to play with the new warlock package.
Raise Dead and Plot Twist + Elekk means plenty of demons that didn’t start in your deck without the randomness of discover.
Plus the plot twist might make a mid-game Ceaseless Expanse play very possible.
Looking forward to MarkMcKz's Ceaseless Expanse Mecha'thun gimmick deck
When I saw Xor'toth in the trailer I was like "Sold. Flavour checks out." and I want to play with it all day every day.
Ceaceless expanse with the warlock deck spell in wild seems hilarious
draenei set, sick! i’ve always loved them
I love spell burst coming back. It’s such a great effect.
Warlock with the new card that replaces your deck/hand with random warlock cards could be even cheaper now which could be scarier
Avatar of Hearthstone will fit in perfectly with my rogue deck. i made a wild rogue deck based on "multiclassing". starts off looking like snother class, has as many dual/tri class cards as i could get, has a tourist with some paradice warlock cards, has a bunch of "get random class's card" cards.. complete chaos. lol
This expansion looks amazing tbh
You didn't mention it but Xor'toth the DH card is EXTREMELY interesting for board bouncing effects or anything that doubles battlecries or doubles cards in hand.
5 to all is pretty solid, but hitting 15 to all is devastating or game winning
One-Amalgam-Band stocks are up!
Edit: Hopefully Nexus-Champion Saraad makes a return!
Saraad is probably a good call for a Miniset character
I can't wait to play the Avatar of four commons and a bad rare
Mmh, the Impact of the cards wont really depend on rarity, more on how much mana do u cheat in play and in the end unpredictable randomness of the effects of spells
a golden common i might add
Can't wait for 5 magma ragers lets go
if it works the way ungoro elise did, it has a way higher rate to open legendaries
everyone is talking about holy wrath in wild but expanse can also give you 100 armor with the warrior dredge card in standard
Sunken City isn't in Standard btw
@@hexxibojexxi oh you're actually so right I've been playing too much arena
Nexus-Prince has felt strong in my HL Pala deck. I'm not sure how much it will be used in other archetypes, but it does feel strong in HL.
I like HS pushing hand effects like Xor'toth
The hands from beyond + the ceaseless expanse + kil’ jaiden
I’m looking forward to see if any of the tourist cards end up used more for other synergies.
DIscover Warlock in wild will be crazy. I love big demon decks.
The Ceaseless Expanse seems super fun! Really hope it's playable but not so good that people are playing it like a second reno almost.
Arkwing Piolet with the mage drink could pop off
Ceaseless Expanse is made for Mark! He just did a 30 mana play recently. He’s gonna play this card for as most mana as possible!
I'm also hyped for this expansion and I didn't play HS since the Titans expansion, when I saw that goofy expansion that came after Titans I've gone into hiatus.
I mean 3 mana 3/2 divine shield into 4 mana 3/4 taunt deathrattle gain 6 armor into 5 mana later in the game to make a 6/6 divine shield taunt that gives you 6 armor again seems decent. Idk if it's worth giving up that slot on the board or risking your opponent copying it or stealing it but seems fun.
Ingenious Artificer seems scary but probably not great in wild. If you can discount the Arkwing Pilot, would be so silly. Can't wait to see Mark combo it with the double end of turns 3 drop.
Tentacle on 8 mana spell for Black Hole. Just another wrath.
Archimonde seems silly if you have cheap ways to discover and discount demons but the art is awesome!!
Velen seems funny or even good if it's not silenced or wiped with Reno.
Cool theme. I'm happy to wait to see the others.
Thank goodness forvtha all OTHER Draeni text on Velen , can you imagine chaining that death rattle if that other wasnt there?
Does Velen shuffle back in when paired with Adaptive Amalgam??
I like how its eye looks like the famous photo of the Sagittarius A* black hole.
Finally some cool looking cards!
Finally an HS expac looking good. Hasn't been one since badlands
nice video, so that starship its going to be just like a zilliax ??
I'm actually excited for this set, wow. Perils practically put me to sleep but this one has me a little giddy
instantly when i see absurd mana cost cards like this, i've got war flashbacks of getting OTKed with 25 health to a holy wrath and a sheenvala or molten giant.
The opening preface about not showing other cards because other content creators are working on their own reviews and reveals. Beyond based.
It makes big mages go a different route with coins generated with those Draenei
Finally another exciting expansion
At this point, shudderwok must be nerfed to replay the battlecries of only 5 or less minions
Wait.
Does nexus-prince work in Starship pieces?
Spellburst triggers => put on piece => becomes part of the ship.
That could be really fun to mess around with
Zeddy said no, it only uses the base stats of the Piece, no buffs will be included.
@@KnownAsKenji ah okay, sad but probably for the better in terms of balancing.
Thanks for the information!
I can see two Mark deck ideas already
I finally saved up for the mini set and we're already getting another expansion wtf. I hope burgle rogue won't have to craft new legendaries because that will be big oof unless I get really lucky. I wish it could have been a Vulpera-themed expansion for particularly obvious reasons, but I gotta say I'm pleasantly surprised. Love seeing Spellburst as a keyword again, and I'm already in despairge seeing the new druid and warlock cards. Maybe we'll see some extra burgle rogue support this time.
There are some cards to get starship pieces from another classes
If I get a Legendary from the Avatar of Hearthstone, and not from an actual Standard Pack, I'm going to be angy.
That's so weird, I was thinking 67 when you said it!
finally an interesting theme expansion
Do the stars mess up outcast for the cards already in your hand?
I believe they will really try to push mid / late game strats this expansion. With the whole starship gimmick. And i believe most people have been wanting that.
if you get two velen, leader of the exiled then will the second's deathrattle cause an infinite loop? :P
No. Other does stop effects from all copies of the card
@@TrixyTrixter awh thats no fun xD , what if you copy the deathrattle using another card or spell? :P
Is it just me, or is the phrasing on Xor'toth weird? Like, if it just adds one star to each side of your hand that then collide to deal 5 damage to all enemies, why does it say it adds.... *two* Stars to *both* sides of your hand? Like, is that a phrasing error in the reveal one? Because, based on how it's described in this video, it literally does not add two starts to both sides of your hand. It adds two starts to your hand total, one on each side?
Guys, the black hole has been teased in some Hearthstone's recent ad. I'v seen this card already, it was written : ... When You draw the perfect card. It's so sick to realize that they put clues in their ads
Congrats to Druid on their new 0 mana 15/15 board clear
Shirvala been really quiet after this one dropped 🔥
What would happen with the"rock and troll" card" if the cost changes?
Wait, Xyrella is a Draenei, right? Does Velen work with the hero card version of Xyrella? Kinda like the old sac pact with Jarraxus?
I think only minions have tribes, not hero cards (the DK cards aren't undead either, unfortunately) - the Jaraxxus thing worked because he was a minion before replacing your hero originally.
At this point they should add a mode where they have Terran, Zerg and Protoss cards.
The 100 cost is broken in Warrior, Pally and Druid decks. Pally Holy Wrath will deal 100 damage, Warrior can gain 100 armor with the dradge mech and Druid can heal to full with tbar discover card.
If the starship really is a card on board then highlander decks will have another peak in it's usage!
The real question is: how fast can Rogue actually play "The Ceaseless Expanse"?
I bet turn 3-4 on wild EASILY.
If they draw their entire deck, play all of them (assuming they are all minions) and then destroy them it would still cost 10
I know that it counts your opponent's cards too but its still unrealistic to thinking anything before turn 10
OK cool but wtf is Rogue doing with a board clear in Wild.
@@KnownAsKenji Mill Rogue probably want something like this, they shuffle a bajillion Oracles in, the over draw of both your and opponents cards, on top of the removal, might be nice as a stall piece/board wipe when your just trying to live. Mill Druid would also probably want this
100 is a big number confirmed
finally i can now win all the jousts
Bummer that Ceaseless Expanse doesn’t have taunt or Elusive! Would’ve been a nice cherry on top
Elusive would be broken
@@justinmadrid8712
Not when TNT warrior is still a thing.
@@Wildestleafyou realise how bad it is right
@@Wildestleaf"it will still die to other broken things so it's not broken" is not the good argument you think it is
@@shrimpCurry
I don't know, having 3 (times 2 if bran) cards on your board, hand and deck instantly die with no counter play is kinda booty. It can die before it's even played. High stat minions aren't broken. TNT is non-sense is my opinion.
For anyone curious, Reddit has all of the new cards
Did they get leaked?
@@BetterKnownThodda He said they accidentally were viewable from within the client.
@@BetterKnownThodda yeah. The client accidentally showed the new expansion
Avatar of Hearthstone seems bonkers with Shudderblock, even if it doesn't always help you it'll at least simulate a Yogg type effect and that's always good
Not really. Way to many minions. So its likely to waste a lot.
> Massive star-breaker demon
> look inside
> 6 mana 5/5
(Also, weird how it has anti-synergy with Outcast)
i cant wait for unkilliax starship edition.
Some cool cards!
Imo the starships should be mechs but then they popbably would be too hard to balance so thats why they have no minions type. Still feels not right.
if the starship itself dies, can we resummon it again for 5 mana or is it gone and we need new pieces again?
Notably for the avatar of hearthstone you need to have hand space for all 5 cards to get the full value
Why? I assume "play" means that all the cards from the pack are played immediately, not added into your hand.
@@eamk887because it says “open a standard pack” which is the first part of the battle cry and then the second step is to play the cards
Maybe the 100 mana thing could go into plague deck? It adds minions and draws
Lol. Drawing a few cards will not reduce its mana cost by much.
Can't wait for marc to holy wrath the ceaseless expansion
man. it makes me so sad not to have seen regis for almost a year now. oh well, c'est la vie on to the next thing
Moonfire is a 0 Mana Arcane Spell for that sweet turn 3 synergy
Pendant of Earth = Heal your hero to full, now
It’s gonna feel so good to play priest and silence my opponents starship🎉😅
Distress signal sucks so bad, can’t wait to see someone summon doomsayer
Cant wait to reno my opponent starship
holy hell, Paladin 100 dmg nuke
nexus reborn deck? deathknight?
Holy wrath = Instantly a 5% instawin condition
You made a new channel?
i got shaffar mage in a diamond, he did few chains but ultimatly did not help him
Only reason Velen is bad imo is because he's a deathrattle and not a battlecry, it's very easy to answer unless you trigger it immediately
on average on normal decks it will cost 0 at turn 12 , also it counts enimy cards too, if you have some tokens them its around 8
looks like it ceased expanding at 15/15
the cfreated demon pack mey not be random, it could be some deterministic creation
why is that 100 mana minion not a Titan? should tweak the effect too
3:32 bro just described an aggro game lol
Avatar of Hearthstone so far has just been silly for me but I've been playing it on turn 1 or 2 on tavern brawl. Don't know how you'd ever get to turn 9.
Druid