This expac will always hold a special place in my heart. It’s the expansion that I first played wow on back in middle school with all my friends. Good times man.... good times... what I would do to go back.
The Scourge Invasion event is one of the most memorable moments I have in WoW. I started not that much before the event started so I was still pretty new to everything when I start seeing ghouls roaming about Goldshire, but then they swiftly get taken out. Not long after there's a massive necropolis floating outside of Stormwind, towns are barren, and Stormwind was as dangerous as some of the toughest max level TBC zones. I remember on my server there were geared 70s that would sit outside of Stormwind and offer to escort players to the tram so they could get on with their questing or whatever. I had a shaman leading me that way, but she got overrun by ghouls and I had to book it alone to the tram. Streets were covered in skeletons like I had never seen before and would never see again. What an amazing pre-release event, made every single other event seem lame in comparison.
@Muhkuh Muh exactly, even lfg..! I can understand why people don't like the system, but you have to admit that if there was an optimal lfg, it was the one originally released! There are ways that they could have made the system a lot less noob-inducing but I'd blame that on lack of attention in later xpacs
@@flippy9133 I LOVED LFG especially in vanilla zones since some faction have an amazing dungeon loot while others don't aka deadmines while horde got rfc and wc so lfg made it kinda fair you know
Hi all, First of all, I ended up getting down so much more than expected for Wrath as a whole, part 2 is going to be over 20mins in addition to this. I know a bunch of you guys wanted me to just do 1 long video, but part 2 will be on Sunday, so you can save it till then if you prefer. If this wasn't out today, then there wouldn't be a video today as I have a bunch left to edit for the second part. Regardless, enjoy. WillE. EDIT Heroic leap was in Cata after all. Sometimes you think you have something right and you don't eh? I try and research anything I am unsure of, sometimes i'll get it wrong, i'm trying to cover a massive amount of content. I am always happy to be corrected!
warriors had heroic throw, tossing their weapon for damage and silence (prot talent) & shattering throw which would break bubbles, making mages and paladin rage!! if you want to play wrath again, best private server is Dalaran-wow.com
Don't listen to them Wille. Heroic leap was in Beta of WotLK, it was removed tho and reintroduced in Cata. It was going to be a fury talent, although instead it was replaced with Heroic Fury talent that resets cd of your intercept and removes any immobilization effects. It even has the same icon heroic leap has now, the talent remained until MoP and the icon was swapped.
The mere moment my ears hear the WOTLK Dalaran theme my heart aches for another new world to discover, something I actually want to explore. A world to get lost in. I feel like WoW has completely lost this feeling since Cata.
@@mightylitty681 Agreed, Cata was actually pretty good for the most part. The dungeons were great and were a welcome jump in difficulty after a ton of people complained about how easy the Wrath dungeons got by the end, the first raid tier was crazy good with a ton of interesting mechanics and multiple raids, then Firelands was also a great raid which I enjoyed. Unfortunately it went a bit downhill in the last raid tier with Dragon Soul, which unfortunately was the longest lasting tier and also the one where LFR was introduced. I think when people think back to Cata they often think of the Dragon Soul patch and LFR, but neither of those things existed until the last tier of the expansion. Everything up to and including Firelands was actually pretty top notch.
@@mightylitty681 Ehhh I remember thinking the Worg and Goblin starting zones were very flavorful but I don't think I was too interested in going to level in the post cata world again even though that exploration would likely be a highlight of the Xpac. Might of been a missed opportunity to try and pushed more people to make alts on its release so people could see that work done. But ehhhhhhhhhh Deathwing was a fucking chump major letdown of raids. Cata took WOTLKs amazing quest structure for exploring the new continent and tossed it out the fucking window.
I joined wow towards the end of TBC so wrath was my first start to finish wow expansion. To me it changed the way I look at games forever. Now whenever I play an RPG im looking to recreate some of the magic of leveling my dk to 80 or pvping on my mage.
The absolute peak of WoW and warcraft lore. Arthas. The lich king, the ultimate villain. The music. The atmosphere. The raids. The memories. This expansion holds a special place in my heart, and I'm sure a lot of other hearts as well.
Running over the border from Dragonblight to Grizzly Hills and seeing those pines for the first time with the harmonica music beginning to play. I had found my new wow home
I believe it was on the Beta for WotLK as a deep fury talent, but got removed pre release because they couldn't stop people from exploiting it to get into closed of areas in the pre cata world, like Hyjal.
I gotta admit that you've become one of my favorite WoW related TH-camr. The way you explain things and speak in general is so relaxing for me and I really enjoy your content. Thanks for making these videos and bringing joy to my life in these very weird times we're living on. Greetings from Finland! /wave
"There has never been a more insanely overpowered class compared to dks at release" Me: remembering how i got repeatedly one shot by ret paladins using avenging wrath when wotlk came out
As a paladin that pre-patch was pretty much the most fun I've had in WoW. I remember respeccing from Holy to Ret right and three shotting a resto druid in BT gear with my blue axe from the Isle of quel'danas rep vendor. Yep, those were the days
As a blood DK ret pallies weren't any real danger.. in fact for the entirety of the expansion the only thing that could beat me 1v1 was frost mages, and only the good ones
listening to that howling fjord soundtrack while remembering about my leveling process forced me to hold back a tear of nostalgia, it was the best time ever
Started in Cataclysm, so I just missed this one. Have made every attempt to not go on a private server so I can experience this one for the first time when it comes out, can’t wait!
Its looking like they will eventually. They are already asking some players how they would want to transition their character from Vanilla to BC if they were to expand Classic.
@@mybuttsmellslikebutterbut207 I don't think so, they might try but due to sub numbers and the overall impression of players the end of Wrath was when WoW lost it's soul. It became more and more like a mobile grinder.
Just wanted to pop in and say how much I enjoy your videos. I played since the public beta and all the way through until the end of Wrath. I tried it again during Warlords - but it wasn't the same. And though I haven't played in years, I love your videos!
WOTLK is what started it's downtrend. If you take your blinders off (WOTLK was my favorite too) and listen to the pros you can see where BLizzard made it retailish towards the end after 3.2 (uldum patch). THey nerfed the shit out of all the classes which pissed me off as I played a mage. With cloth armor my mage sucked ass in pvp now as the only thing that kept him alive was KILLER ranged DPS. Next Blizzard brought NAXX nerfed from classic :-(. Raid finder and group finder was a terrible idea and I loved pvp battles in wintergrasp to get the jewels from the Korin Tor but everyone could get blue and sometimes purple if they spent at least 15 hours a week playing. Everyone was l33t geared. I think WOTLK started at Blizzard but was nerfed/customized at Activisions request.
@@timothygibney159 I remember that, after they launched the tournament mini raid. Evry noob around had the best gear for only spending like 30 minutes. Like what the actual fuck? Not to even mention all the skill changes it fucked over the status quo. Then they released the raid itself and it was underwhelming, not to mention giving Arthas a shitty underwhelming end with a cliche replacement of some fuckwit nobody and downplaying Ner'zhul as some cuckboy. Lorewise arthas was never in controle and was a puppet to Nerz'hul. This made his entire journey and domination of the spirit by frostmourne meaningless. His actual soul being in Ner'zhul's hands yet somehow he retains his self and or ability to reject Ner'zhul? What a dumb fucking choice that was, besides i really doubt a mere human is more powerfull than a full fledged demon god. It seriously downplayed the entire story up untill that point and even a child can see how this dint match the status and stature of a true villain. Besides that the biggest villain being gone made the whole setting feel empty and lackluster after the raid and story of the lich king was concluded.
Cata was a better WotLK, but with one fewer tier sadly, which makes it worse at the time, due to the 4.1 content draught, but overall as good or better. Consider that WotLK has Trial of the Crusader, the single worst Raid in WoW's history and the reason the subscriptions plateaued, because many people started leaving until ICC or for good due to TotC being crap and having nothing else to do, but doing it 3x times a week.
Just thinking how i felt when i quested and played through Wotlk almost makes me wan't to cry... The nordic theme, the music, the lich king looming over all and the journey was just truly incredible. I wan't it back :(
From memory the Argent Tournament was meant to be in Crystalsong Forest, however having the main city hub and a major daily hub in the same zone would be extremely rough on the servers. Hell, logging into Dalaran during Peak times on your servers took hours. That said, two dailies from the 3.1 version of the tournament did have you go into Crystalsong Forest. it is also why there were a horde and alliance flight paths (themed around our factions main presence in Dalaran) in the zone that were never really used. As those were meant to be the flight paths for the Tournament. Q. Why is there hardly anything in Crystalsong Forest? It is a shame to see such a beautiful zone go to waste! A. Yeah, it makes us sad. Part of the problem is that it sits beneath Dalaran, which ended up being more of a resource hog than we had anticipated. We didn't want to draw too many more players to that zone. Initially the Crusader's Coliseum was going to be there, which is why some of the quests send you there. We just worried too much about the performance hit. Anub'arak ended up working out well though in Icecrown. web.archive.org/web/20100121015853/forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=22418868790&sid=1&pageNo=1 Adding to that, it is part of the reason why major city hubs have been split for the horde and alliance since then. With only Dalaran in Legion being the one which both factions shared. It is also why it was placed in the middle of nowhere on the broken isles map files and not in the middle of a certain zone.
FINALLY a video about wrath ! I've been waiting for so long , anyone these days either post about classic tbc bfa or rarely shadowlands which I get why but still I needed a new video about wrath I almost given up and said "just wait till tbc classic comes out so people will be hyped for wrath classic and make alot of videos about it"
I love it "You put too much RPG in our MMORPG, please stop we just want to yell in cities to gather people for raid :( " This is why I loved private roleplaying servers.
On Emerald Dream my guild was part of a coalition holding Menethil Harbor as a safe zone for players trying to escape the infected cities. Ghouls from both factions would come in droves trying to infect the players, dps would go out to slow them down, and healers would spam cleanse on lowbies hiding in the keep. Every boat coming in had a welcoming committee ready to dispel diseases or knock ghouls into the water. No other pre-launch event came close to Wrath in terms of immersion/preparation for the content.
Crystal Song Forest....ahh the place with Dalalag. My only issue with Wrath was LFD, I loved it as a tank but in retrospect it shouldn't have been active for current content only past content like Vanilla and TBC dungeons.
I've spent countless hours over a period of 8 years of my life playing Wrath of the lich king only, so I'm very, very biased. But it's brought me the most fun gaming experiences I've ever had. There are so many memories and people I met on the way that I still think about weekly, and a bunch of the people I met, I still talk to regularly. I played on a, now long dead private server, called TrueWoW. There I met many fantastic people, one among them who became a very close friend and acted as a guru and positive male role model for me in my darkest times. Me not ever really getting the chance to create a great connection with my father, being able to have this person around for all these years has helped me become a better man. I would have never met him and would never have had access to the invaluable advice and counseling I was given. I owe a great deal to this particular expansion being so great that it allowed me to meet all of these wonderful people and experience all of the wonderful things I was able to. Nowadays I don't have a computer to play WoW, but I think about it constantly. I'm not gonna lie, the game has brought some problems into my life as well that easily come with WoW addiction. But in all honesty the good has largely outweighed the bad. I'll forever love WotLK and will always praise it to the skies. I'm not a hardcore PvE player. I'm a hardcore PvP player, and this is probably why I'm so biased and love Wrath so much. I never got to experience the frustration of having activision blizzard cater to casuals which worsened much of the experience that hardcore PvE players sought after in the game. But I could give less shits about that lmao. Get me my full wrathful set and my enhancement shaman, desto lock, marksman hunter and ret paladin are popping the F off!
Private server options suick and are lonely. I hope blizzard makes a wotlk classic realms. But in pvp my mage sucked in wotlk when they made other classes as power with dps which means I died to being a clothie
@@timothygibney159 Mage is one of the strongest classes for PvP in wrath during every patch =) you can play on Warmane Icecrown or their new upcoming server Frostmourne which will go through WOTLK content starting with naxx/os/eoe deadly season and finishing with ICC ruby sanctum wrathful season
I loved Wrath more then any other game EVER. Not even League beats it (10000+ games played at this point) It was the time WoW and it´s community was truely at it´s peak. There where better raids after it (MoP,WoD,Legion and even BfA) and a better world before it (classic). BUT there was NEVER a point in time when we all cared more for the game then in Wrath. It was the final chapter of one of the greatest games ever made!
If Blizz make WotLK classic, they HAVE TO keep Random Dungeon Finder REALM ONLY. NO cross realm RDF. That is what will kill the community. Being teleported to a dungeon where nobody says a word the entire run and if someone does, they're met with "shut up u talk too much". That's the only change I would ever want for Wrath classic.
I know this is kinda old video but have to notice something, Heroic Leap was added in Cata, only was tried in Beta WOTLK but was not added in game until Cata :) Great videos u have and very nice narration
When talking about their abilities at release you missed out Corpse Explode, that shit was insane. I remember stunning people with my ghoul, casting corpse explode on the ghoul and it doing at least 50% of the enemies health. The explosion converted all the ghouls health into damage.
I remember seing a level 70 DK soloing that outdoor 5 man boss in Nagrand, it had some edgy name? what was it? it was one of those big cyclops things.it was a level 70 elite quest mob and this 70 DK just soloed it, it was impressive for sure
I loved that scourge event. I panicked at first when I got it for the first time, but eventually I grew to have fun with it since my guildies and friends often grouped up so we could essentially take over entire settlements with undeath. Was a nice prelude to what we did as Death Knights much later on in their beginning story.
the last expansion where I was fully invested. I raced everyone to the shore, I did all the +2 +4 quests and cleared all the dungeon as they became the level I could. I got to max level and I PvP'ed, did heroics, levels proffessions, made friends and raided. The game will never quite be the same, and never has been the same since Wrath. Thank you for being a good goodbye for me, wrath.
I remember quitting for a year during Wrath due to time-consuming commitments while in college. I came back, level ed my paladin from 70 to 80, slapped on a shield, and became an epic-geared protection paladin in about a week thanks to the LFG tool having been added and tabards still giving reputation.
0:45 that last saying is still true, after Wrath, a large portion of WoW died inside, it was never the same after that and that hasn't changed 11 years later
Amazing video, wotlk was not only my favorite wow expansion but the best video game I’ve ever played ever. Only thing I have to say (warrior main) is that warriors actually did not have heroic leap in wotlk, that came in cata xd
The best thing about WoTLK was that the game still felt dated and charming, so while it was a new experience it still FELT like WoW. As much as I enjoy the new models and better graphics, there's something to be said for the sheer quality of gameplay that put experience over convenience and aesthetics. Such damn good memories of this time, and yes there is rose-tinted nostalgia, but the game still had heart. These days it feels a little too polished and sterile sometimes.
Oh mannnnn. I miss that Zombie Invasion event. I kept the Haunted Memento from it on 3 characters just because of what it did and I was stoked to see Bliz make it an official item! I have treasured it so much. Many MANY people have seen me with it and begged me to sell it to them since it's unattainable now. Highest offer I've ever gotten was nearly 300k Gold but I've refused. This item is irreplaceable from my earlier days and a reminder of why I rolled my RP Paladin and got Argent Crusade Exalted ASAP. What a wonderful time. Loved that pre Naxx Zombie Invasion event.
I remember the announcement of wrath and playing wrath but I have no nostalgia for it. All I remember is being frustrated by gear score and the endless feedback loop of not being able to get better gear because you don't have a high enough gear score to do anything.
WotLK launch night was one of the most memorable events in my life. I devoted all my time to going for the Realm First: Level 80 Death Knight. It was the one time in my life that I was a bit of a celebrity on the server, as I was ahead of any other death knight by about ten levels... on alliance anyway. I took one break to nap for an hour that I knew I shouldn't have, which cost me the now once in a lifetime achievement. I lost to a horde DK who was a level above me and I rolled over there to congratulate him. I'll remember what he said after doing so "Oh yeahh, man awesome thanks! Yeah I didn't plan to get the achievement and didn't really care until my friend told me about what level were over there so I was like alrighty then xP" That little shit lol. I wonder where he's at or if he even plays anymore. Probably not.
Best exp ever.. It was almost impossible to turn the PC of and get some sleep haha.. So many things to do, see, explore and figure out. Loved the imbalanced classes and the strange hybrids you could make :)
TBH I never liked questing in the Fjord. Borean Tundra offered a massive amount of quests, but they were so well packed in hubs, that I didn't feel I've completed THAT many - until I hit loremaster in that zone while leveling an alt.
Wrath left me feeling hollow. When we moved onto Cata, It felt like I had lost a friend. I spent 2 years playing wrath, and it was literally all I thought about during that time. I ate, slept, and breathed WoW. When I revisit the soundtrack, I get a nostalgia that's so strong it's painful. What I would do to go back to those days. The new expacs bring me back but it never strikes the same beat that Wrath did.
@@Veeqaliber Comparatively, no. I recently jumped into BFA to get ready for Shadowlands ( after nearly a 2 year break), and it feels slow and boring. Shadowlands is shaping up to be a great expansion though, so if you're thinking about it, I'd wait until then.
during the pre-patch zombie invasion event, I had been playing a horde ret paladin for a while, was pretty much bis pre sunwell geared and was pretty much waiting for wotlk to drop. I remember doing my sunwell dailies and this HUGE group of zombie players and npc's were going around infecting players and killing off the quest mobs. As soon as they surrounded me I just bubbled up and hit holy wrath which was insanely op at that time. It instantly killed every single zombie and I began to get death threats from the players who had gone and made that giant zomball. 10/10 was well worth it and would do it again. Good memories.
I remember the plague... Played on the server Thrall and my dad, I, and his guild were the first horde to bring the plague to stormwind. It was way too funny watching alliance panic and run away or try and fight over 100 zombies.
For me Wrath killed dungeons, as you said it was all about rotation and how fast you can kill stuff. Everything stuck like glue to the tank anyway, and healers had unlimited mana. Had fun Raiding in Wrath though. In TBC I started off with a warlock, and trust me early progression was no joke. I remember frequently banish demons, watching the timer closely or me or the healer would be dead in a second. Dotted up skull, while mildly dotting up X to squeeze out some extra dps, agen dot to hard on off-target me or healer = dead. (It really came down to how you expected the tank to preform) To further increase dps, I watched dot timers extremely closely to not clip my dots, as that was a wasted tick. You could not do heavy life tap without checking the healer's mana, If he/she had to go all out on the tank, chances was there was no resources to heal you up. At this point you had to consider Tap and coil to finish off the fight, but only if the 1 sec fear could not trigger other mobs. Or you where stuck with life-drain, horrible DPS, but kept you out of the 1 shot zone. Point is, in TBC i had a feeling I had to make decisions on the fly all the time, this just disappeared in Wrath, as you just clicked whatever was off CD. This was just some of the things that showed skilled play in TBC, A good hunter was often valued on how good he was on kiting, not on a rotation. Anyone that broke CC got a fair warning, as it normally resulted in a wipe. (Ok mage was op, but when are they not :) ), Hunters had the unique ability to CC two mele targets at the same time, The good ones strolled around the room like there was nothing to it eaven refreshing freezing trap. The not so good either panicked and feign death, or constantly backed into another group of mobs. Then came Wrath, Aoe Tanks and unlimited mana. Sorry that broke dungeoning for me, as everything became all about clear-speed.
Playing a weak paladin for so long, it was so satisfying being the only class that was capable of killing a death knight. Also Blizzard has never said it outright, but it was rumored that Crystalsong was intended for future content, but the whole zone lagged due to Dalaran being above and they just did nothign with it after that.
This expansion was my favorite.. I played vanilla and bc growing up never hitting max level till wrath. Best experience I ever had with wow . Really hope it comes back in a classic server !
I remember back at launch, doing Hellfire Ramparts with a full group of 5 with nothing but Blood DK's. They were so fucking strong and their self healing insane, good times!
The only expansion i truly loved, simply because enhance shamans were actually viable for one exp only, my skill level was big and my dps was strong and competitive, i reliably won charts in raids in ulduar and icc much to the butthurt of dks, was a great time, pity even then the cracks started to form in blizz, cut and delayed content, shamans being gimped by class health etc. I still remember being benched for heroic icc because fully raid buffed and geared my health was way below even raiding rogues health pools, i simply took too much damage to compete in that fight, sad moment.
it was an incredible expansion. TBC dungeons were harder, not a bad thing, and they scaled it back in Wraith, waaaaaay back. They were still fun. Overall, an amazing expansion.
I remember the glyph that made Master's Call (Hunter pet freedom spell) from 4s duration to 8s duration.. 8sec undispellable immune to movement impairing effects as a hunter was godgiven. Also, Lagaran
such glyph didn't exist in wotlk, there was a talent like this, but in bm tree, but for arenas and bgs bm hunter wasn't that good unless played in beastcleave comp.
These remind me of preach’s legacy series. And I LOVE them. Will you do classes at some point? Specifically, the one preach refuses to do for some reason, Legacy of the Hunter!
That's when I hid in Theramore :D - Hated the plague-event (it was kind of cool, but frankly: I wanted to level more alts at that time and that was not helping!)
This expac will always hold a special place in my heart. It’s the expansion that I first played wow on back in middle school with all my friends. Good times man.... good times... what I would do to go back.
We never will. Won´t be the same but the memories will alwas be there.
@@Spinexus classic was quite fun and all but it wasn't even nearly the same. I was young, innocent, and full of wonder back then.
What's holding you guys back from playing WoTLK?
Emperor Kim Jong-un well I don’t have a PC any longer.
@@LowerYourExpectationsPleb Same I don't have a PC I have financial issues and a lot of stuff. Plus not to mention wotlk no longer exists.
The Scourge Invasion event is one of the most memorable moments I have in WoW. I started not that much before the event started so I was still pretty new to everything when I start seeing ghouls roaming about Goldshire, but then they swiftly get taken out. Not long after there's a massive necropolis floating outside of Stormwind, towns are barren, and Stormwind was as dangerous as some of the toughest max level TBC zones. I remember on my server there were geared 70s that would sit outside of Stormwind and offer to escort players to the tram so they could get on with their questing or whatever. I had a shaman leading me that way, but she got overrun by ghouls and I had to book it alone to the tram. Streets were covered in skeletons like I had never seen before and would never see again. What an amazing pre-release event, made every single other event seem lame in comparison.
That's a great story.
That's awesome! gagged when you talked about being alliance though but still a great story
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@@666jammer That would be more like everyone is slightly coughing.
My favorite part was the player driven plague thing. Just because you could make raids that killed A'dal which was super fun.
Imo, wrath was the perfect balance between the classic feel of the game and some much needed quality of life changes. That's honestly it.
agree until they introduced LFG
@Muhkuh Muh Still, it turned the world into a lobby.
@Muhkuh Muh exactly, even lfg..! I can understand why people don't like the system, but you have to admit that if there was an optimal lfg, it was the one originally released! There are ways that they could have made the system a lot less noob-inducing but I'd blame that on lack of attention in later xpacs
@@flippy9133 I LOVED LFG especially in vanilla zones since some faction have an amazing dungeon loot while others don't aka deadmines while horde got rfc and wc so lfg made it kinda fair you know
Agree big time, I cover a bunch of the QoL stuff in part 2, you really do forget just how much useful stuff WotLK brought in
Hi all,
First of all, I ended up getting down so much more than expected for Wrath as a whole, part 2 is going to be over 20mins in addition to this.
I know a bunch of you guys wanted me to just do 1 long video, but part 2 will be on Sunday, so you can save it till then if you prefer.
If this wasn't out today, then there wouldn't be a video today as I have a bunch left to edit for the second part.
Regardless, enjoy.
WillE.
EDIT
Heroic leap was in Cata after all. Sometimes you think you have something right and you don't eh? I try and research anything I am unsure of, sometimes i'll get it wrong, i'm trying to cover a massive amount of content. I am always happy to be corrected!
warriors had heroic throw, tossing their weapon for damage and silence (prot talent)
& shattering throw which would break bubbles, making mages and paladin rage!!
if you want to play wrath again, best private server is Dalaran-wow.com
Warriors didn't get heroic leap in WotLK they got it in Cata
Don't listen to them Wille.
Heroic leap was in Beta of WotLK, it was removed tho and reintroduced in Cata.
It was going to be a fury talent, although instead it was replaced with Heroic Fury talent that resets cd of your intercept and removes any immobilization effects. It even has the same icon heroic leap has now, the talent remained until MoP and the icon was swapped.
The mere moment my ears hear the WOTLK Dalaran theme my heart aches for another new world to discover, something I actually want to explore. A world to get lost in. I feel like WoW has completely lost this feeling since Cata.
Nachoz Man cats was fine . It’s mop that ruined all
@@mightylitty681 Agreed, Cata was actually pretty good for the most part. The dungeons were great and were a welcome jump in difficulty after a ton of people complained about how easy the Wrath dungeons got by the end, the first raid tier was crazy good with a ton of interesting mechanics and multiple raids, then Firelands was also a great raid which I enjoyed.
Unfortunately it went a bit downhill in the last raid tier with Dragon Soul, which unfortunately was the longest lasting tier and also the one where LFR was introduced. I think when people think back to Cata they often think of the Dragon Soul patch and LFR, but neither of those things existed until the last tier of the expansion. Everything up to and including Firelands was actually pretty top notch.
timmy LfR definitely sucked I mostly enjoyed 4.0 til 4.2
I could cry just hearing the arthas theme!
Just because i have so many good memories from that time.
@@mightylitty681 Ehhh I remember thinking the Worg and Goblin starting zones were very flavorful but I don't think I was too interested in going to level in the post cata world again even though that exploration would likely be a highlight of the Xpac. Might of been a missed opportunity to try and pushed more people to make alts on its release so people could see that work done. But ehhhhhhhhhh Deathwing was a fucking chump major letdown of raids. Cata took WOTLKs amazing quest structure for exploring the new continent and tossed it out the fucking window.
I hope when they eventually do WotLK Classic, they do that plague thing again.
I joined wow towards the end of TBC so wrath was my first start to finish wow expansion. To me it changed the way I look at games forever. Now whenever I play an RPG im looking to recreate some of the magic of leveling my dk to 80 or pvping on my mage.
wow i feel exactly the same lol
The absolute peak of WoW and warcraft lore. Arthas. The lich king, the ultimate villain. The music. The atmosphere. The raids. The memories.
This expansion holds a special place in my heart, and I'm sure a lot of other hearts as well.
Running over the border from Dragonblight to Grizzly Hills and seeing those pines for the first time with the harmonica music beginning to play. I had found my new wow home
nice video, but before someone get's triggered, heroic leap was actually introduced in Cata (i dont remember if at lv81 or 83)
yeah woopsie :(
@@WillEmmo haha dont worry man, no one will notice with the tbc survey now XD
I believe it was on the Beta for WotLK as a deep fury talent, but got removed pre release because they couldn't stop people from exploiting it to get into closed of areas in the pre cata world, like Hyjal.
@@murthagdk3823 I NOTICED !!!!
@@Antivian123 well done sir XD
WotLK brought the best music any MMO had ever seen.
Imho FFXIV overall has always been better but WotLK had the best WoW Ost ever yes
* heard
Even years later, I still catch myself humming the themes of Grizzly Hills and Sholazar Basin.
I gotta admit that you've become one of my favorite WoW related TH-camr. The way you explain things and speak in general is so relaxing for me and I really enjoy your content. Thanks for making these videos and bringing joy to my life in these very weird times we're living on. Greetings from Finland! /wave
"There has never been a more insanely overpowered class compared to dks at release"
Me: remembering how i got repeatedly one shot by ret paladins using avenging wrath when wotlk came out
As a paladin that pre-patch was pretty much the most fun I've had in WoW. I remember respeccing from Holy to Ret right and three shotting a resto druid in BT gear with my blue axe from the Isle of quel'danas rep vendor. Yep, those were the days
I pvped as a hunter for fun in wotlk, cata prepatxh came out, ret paladin oneshoted me with avenger shield crit, rolled an alt.
ret paladins at wotlk release were just awesome, this was blizzards excuse for fuckin up in classic and first half of BC
As a blood DK ret pallies weren't any real danger.. in fact for the entirety of the expansion the only thing that could beat me 1v1 was frost mages, and only the good ones
Rets were a close 2nd ha, dk ret 2s on release were nutty
listening to that howling fjord soundtrack while remembering about my leveling process forced me to hold back a tear of nostalgia, it was the best time ever
@@mike9347 man the alliance entrance was one of the most beautiful things ingame
Damn, that opening was a punch in the gut. God I miss those days, way to make a guy feel old.
I love that track so much, so majestic
@@WillEmmo same.
Late to the Party but what is the name of the Song in the Intro?
Started in Cataclysm, so I just missed this one. Have made every attempt to not go on a private server so I can experience this one for the first time when it comes out, can’t wait!
God the nostalgia was just flowing over me.. Thank you for these video, looking forward to Sunday!
Wrath was my favorite xpac.
Wrath was the best xpac.**
**Until they TBC Legacy servers, and we'll see if TBC really was better, even though Ulduar is god-tier.
I love this exp if blizz ever does a classic wrath server ill lose my mind xD
Its looking like they will eventually. They are already asking some players how they would want to transition their character from Vanilla to BC if they were to expand Classic.
I swear on everything
That’s one I’ll 100% play the fuck out of right at launch
So they are just going to redo every expansion up to Shadowlands
@@mybuttsmellslikebutterbut207 I don't think so, they might try but due to sub numbers and the overall impression of players the end of Wrath was when WoW lost it's soul. It became more and more like a mobile grinder.
Heroic leap was in cata dude
Love the video tho, best xpac in my opinion also
Yes, there's no heroic leap on wotlk,looking for that comment
Just wanted to pop in and say how much I enjoy your videos. I played since the public beta and all the way through until the end of Wrath. I tried it again during Warlords - but it wasn't the same. And though I haven't played in years, I love your videos!
Wotlk was the last good expansion after which WoW just went down the drain after Blizzard was merged with Activision by Vivendi
agreed
WOTLK is what started it's downtrend. If you take your blinders off (WOTLK was my favorite too) and listen to the pros you can see where BLizzard made it retailish towards the end after 3.2 (uldum patch). THey nerfed the shit out of all the classes which pissed me off as I played a mage. With cloth armor my mage sucked ass in pvp now as the only thing that kept him alive was KILLER ranged DPS. Next Blizzard brought NAXX nerfed from classic :-(. Raid finder and group finder was a terrible idea and I loved pvp battles in wintergrasp to get the jewels from the Korin Tor but everyone could get blue and sometimes purple if they spent at least 15 hours a week playing. Everyone was l33t geared. I think WOTLK started at Blizzard but was nerfed/customized at Activisions request.
@@timothygibney159 I remember that, after they launched the tournament mini raid. Evry noob around had the best gear for only spending like 30 minutes. Like what the actual fuck? Not to even mention all the skill changes it fucked over the status quo. Then they released the raid itself and it was underwhelming, not to mention giving Arthas a shitty underwhelming end with a cliche replacement of some fuckwit nobody and downplaying Ner'zhul as some cuckboy. Lorewise arthas was never in controle and was a puppet to Nerz'hul. This made his entire journey and domination of the spirit by frostmourne meaningless. His actual soul being in Ner'zhul's hands yet somehow he retains his self and or ability to reject Ner'zhul? What a dumb fucking choice that was, besides i really doubt a mere human is more powerfull than a full fledged demon god. It seriously downplayed the entire story up untill that point and even a child can see how this dint match the status and stature of a true villain. Besides that the biggest villain being gone made the whole setting feel empty and lackluster after the raid and story of the lich king was concluded.
They merged before wrath but other then that tour not wrong
Cata was a better WotLK, but with one fewer tier sadly, which makes it worse at the time, due to the 4.1 content draught, but overall as good or better. Consider that WotLK has Trial of the Crusader, the single worst Raid in WoW's history and the reason the subscriptions plateaued, because many people started leaving until ICC or for good due to TotC being crap and having nothing else to do, but doing it 3x times a week.
Just thinking how i felt when i quested and played through Wotlk almost makes me wan't to cry...
The nordic theme, the music, the lich king looming over all and the journey was just truly incredible.
I wan't it back :(
From memory the Argent Tournament was meant to be in Crystalsong Forest, however having the main city hub and a major daily hub in the same zone would be extremely rough on the servers. Hell, logging into Dalaran during Peak times on your servers took hours. That said, two dailies from the 3.1 version of the tournament did have you go into Crystalsong Forest. it is also why there were a horde and alliance flight paths (themed around our factions main presence in Dalaran) in the zone that were never really used. As those were meant to be the flight paths for the Tournament.
Q. Why is there hardly anything in Crystalsong Forest? It is a shame to see such a beautiful zone go to waste!
A. Yeah, it makes us sad. Part of the problem is that it sits beneath Dalaran, which ended up being more of a resource hog than we had anticipated. We didn't want to draw too many more players to that zone. Initially the Crusader's Coliseum was going to be there, which is why some of the quests send you there. We just worried too much about the performance hit. Anub'arak ended up working out well though in Icecrown.
web.archive.org/web/20100121015853/forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=22418868790&sid=1&pageNo=1
Adding to that, it is part of the reason why major city hubs have been split for the horde and alliance since then. With only Dalaran in Legion being the one which both factions shared. It is also why it was placed in the middle of nowhere on the broken isles map files and not in the middle of a certain zone.
FINALLY a video about wrath ! I've been waiting for so long , anyone these days either post about classic tbc bfa or rarely shadowlands which I get why but still I needed a new video about wrath I almost given up and said "just wait till tbc classic comes out so people will be hyped for wrath classic and make alot of videos about it"
im addicted to this series, such good content mate!
I love it "You put too much RPG in our MMORPG, please stop we just want to yell in cities to gather people for raid :( "
This is why I loved private roleplaying servers.
Fantastic throwback to Wrath. Look forward to P2
I remember the floating fortresses and going into battle grounds and every player was a level 59 deathnight
I remember doing hellfire ramparts runs with all DKs no problem
I miss tanking with my duel wielding frost dk. Man that was fun.
On Emerald Dream my guild was part of a coalition holding Menethil Harbor as a safe zone for players trying to escape the infected cities. Ghouls from both factions would come in droves trying to infect the players, dps would go out to slow them down, and healers would spam cleanse on lowbies hiding in the keep. Every boat coming in had a welcoming committee ready to dispel diseases or knock ghouls into the water.
No other pre-launch event came close to Wrath in terms of immersion/preparation for the content.
Crystal Song Forest....ahh the place with Dalalag.
My only issue with Wrath was LFD, I loved it as a tank but in retrospect it shouldn't have been active for current content only past content like Vanilla and TBC dungeons.
I've spent countless hours over a period of 8 years of my life playing Wrath of the lich king only, so I'm very, very biased. But it's brought me the most fun gaming experiences I've ever had. There are so many memories and people I met on the way that I still think about weekly, and a bunch of the people I met, I still talk to regularly. I played on a, now long dead private server, called TrueWoW. There I met many fantastic people, one among them who became a very close friend and acted as a guru and positive male role model for me in my darkest times. Me not ever really getting the chance to create a great connection with my father, being able to have this person around for all these years has helped me become a better man. I would have never met him and would never have had access to the invaluable advice and counseling I was given. I owe a great deal to this particular expansion being so great that it allowed me to meet all of these wonderful people and experience all of the wonderful things I was able to. Nowadays I don't have a computer to play WoW, but I think about it constantly. I'm not gonna lie, the game has brought some problems into my life as well that easily come with WoW addiction. But in all honesty the good has largely outweighed the bad. I'll forever love WotLK and will always praise it to the skies. I'm not a hardcore PvE player. I'm a hardcore PvP player, and this is probably why I'm so biased and love Wrath so much. I never got to experience the frustration of having activision blizzard cater to casuals which worsened much of the experience that hardcore PvE players sought after in the game. But I could give less shits about that lmao. Get me my full wrathful set and my enhancement shaman, desto lock, marksman hunter and ret paladin are popping the F off!
Private server options suick and are lonely. I hope blizzard makes a wotlk classic realms. But in pvp my mage sucked in wotlk when they made other classes as power with dps which means I died to being a clothie
@@timothygibney159 Mage is one of the strongest classes for PvP in wrath during every patch =) you can play on Warmane Icecrown or their new upcoming server Frostmourne which will go through WOTLK content starting with naxx/os/eoe deadly season and finishing with ICC ruby sanctum wrathful season
@@Epicdps How is it a strong class when you can die in 1 hit with cloth armor?
@@timothygibney159 Resilience of course! That's vanilla you're describing. Lol.
I loved Wrath more then any other game EVER.
Not even League beats it (10000+ games played at this point)
It was the time WoW and it´s community was truely at it´s peak.
There where better raids after it (MoP,WoD,Legion and even BfA) and a better world before it (classic).
BUT there was NEVER a point in time when we all cared more for the game then in Wrath. It was the final chapter of one of the greatest games ever made!
If Blizz make WotLK classic, they HAVE TO keep Random Dungeon Finder REALM ONLY. NO cross realm RDF. That is what will kill the community. Being teleported to a dungeon where nobody says a word the entire run and if someone does, they're met with "shut up u talk too much". That's the only change I would ever want for Wrath classic.
@@Epicdps do you go in the dungeon looking for a chat or to play the game
@@feltthetapedits3332 chatting with people is a part of the game... It's a social, multi-player game, an mmorg...
I know this is kinda old video but have to notice something, Heroic Leap was added in Cata, only was tried in Beta WOTLK but was not added in game until Cata :)
Great videos u have and very nice narration
Thanks for the awesome episode!
I have so many good memories from this expansion. Friendships, fun, laughs. Can't wait Wrath 2.0 to come out and become a demon warlock again.
When talking about their abilities at release you missed out Corpse Explode, that shit was insane. I remember stunning people with my ghoul, casting corpse explode on the ghoul and it doing at least 50% of the enemies health. The explosion converted all the ghouls health into damage.
I remember seing a level 70 DK soloing that outdoor 5 man boss in Nagrand, it had some edgy name? what was it? it was one of those big cyclops things.it was a level 70 elite quest mob and this 70 DK just soloed it, it was impressive for sure
I loved that scourge event. I panicked at first when I got it for the first time, but eventually I grew to have fun with it since my guildies and friends often grouped up so we could essentially take over entire settlements with undeath. Was a nice prelude to what we did as Death Knights much later on in their beginning story.
the last expansion where I was fully invested. I raced everyone to the shore, I did all the +2 +4 quests and cleared all the dungeon as they became the level I could. I got to max level and I PvP'ed, did heroics, levels proffessions, made friends and raided. The game will never quite be the same, and never has been the same since Wrath. Thank you for being a good goodbye for me, wrath.
OMG first 5 seconds in and I am already sold on Wrath Legacy server 100%
just play private servers?
I remember quitting for a year during Wrath due to time-consuming commitments while in college. I came back, level ed my paladin from 70 to 80, slapped on a shield, and became an epic-geared protection paladin in about a week thanks to the LFG tool having been added and tabards still giving reputation.
FotM Rerolls. That just had me remember when Survival Hunter was stupid overturned.
0:45 that last saying is still true, after Wrath, a large portion of WoW died inside, it was never the same after that and that hasn't changed 11 years later
When the grizzly hills music hit i litterally got chills down my spine
Amazing video, wotlk was not only my favorite wow expansion but the best video game I’ve ever played ever. Only thing I have to say (warrior main) is that warriors actually did not have heroic leap in wotlk, that came in cata xd
Xavier White trueeee
Great video! Wrath is definitely my favorite expansion
Hunters already had disengage they just changed it so that it gave you a leap back instead of just a threat reducer
14:30 that's cuz Heroic Leap was added in Cataclysm friend
Kool video anyhow.. my Wrath of the Lich King nostalgia is getting to me now
The best thing about WoTLK was that the game still felt dated and charming, so while it was a new experience it still FELT like WoW. As much as I enjoy the new models and better graphics, there's something to be said for the sheer quality of gameplay that put experience over convenience and aesthetics. Such damn good memories of this time, and yes there is rose-tinted nostalgia, but the game still had heart. These days it feels a little too polished and sterile sometimes.
Really awesome series. Epic!
That intro man, the music the nostalgia! I am so h yped for wrath!!
Oh mannnnn. I miss that Zombie Invasion event. I kept the Haunted Memento from it on 3 characters just because of what it did and I was stoked to see Bliz make it an official item! I have treasured it so much. Many MANY people have seen me with it and begged me to sell it to them since it's unattainable now. Highest offer I've ever gotten was nearly 300k Gold but I've refused. This item is irreplaceable from my earlier days and a reminder of why I rolled my RP Paladin and got Argent Crusade Exalted ASAP.
What a wonderful time. Loved that pre Naxx Zombie Invasion event.
13:34 Now that UI looks cool :D
I remember the announcement of wrath and playing wrath but I have no nostalgia for it. All I remember is being frustrated by gear score and the endless feedback loop of not being able to get better gear because you don't have a high enough gear score to do anything.
The fact you got flying to traverse a questing area that would have been impossible without it was fucking awesome.
WotLK launch night was one of the most memorable events in my life. I devoted all my time to going for the Realm First: Level 80 Death Knight. It was the one time in my life that I was a bit of a celebrity on the server, as I was ahead of any other death knight by about ten levels... on alliance anyway. I took one break to nap for an hour that I knew I shouldn't have, which cost me the now once in a lifetime achievement.
I lost to a horde DK who was a level above me and I rolled over there to congratulate him.
I'll remember what he said after doing so "Oh yeahh, man awesome thanks! Yeah I didn't plan to get the achievement and didn't really care until my friend told me about what level were over there so I was like alrighty then xP"
That little shit lol. I wonder where he's at or if he even plays anymore. Probably not.
"Tell them all that the Lich King is dead, and that the World of Warcraft died with it"
Facts
Ok boomer
@@mtggeeksgaming5064 cringe
Heroic Leap was not implemented in Wrath (only in Beta). It was added in Cata.
We had Heroic throw in Wrath.
Best exp ever.. It was almost impossible to turn the PC of and get some sleep haha.. So many things to do, see, explore and figure out. Loved the imbalanced classes and the strange hybrids you could make :)
When he started talking about edgy death knight names it made me remember mine. "Runekiller" haha
Arthasbane here :D
Simply the greatest gaming experience of all time. When the day finally comes where I can play wotlk again in a glory state I will shed tears
You have a Warmane server called Lordaeron. It's the real deal.
Loving this series!
Loved this xpac, unfortunately I was too busy to play much. I hope classic goes at least through LK.
TBH I never liked questing in the Fjord. Borean Tundra offered a massive amount of quests, but they were so well packed in hubs, that I didn't feel I've completed THAT many - until I hit loremaster in that zone while leveling an alt.
yes the scourge invasion re-introduced us to the greatest villain in wow history, The Griefer.
That Grizzly Hills music though.
7:12, LOL that's hilarious I had a character named Deathanddk, though I didnt make it in wrath, didnt know that was a thing lol
ngl, highly anticipated video
Wrath left me feeling hollow. When we moved onto Cata, It felt like I had lost a friend.
I spent 2 years playing wrath, and it was literally all I thought about during that time. I ate, slept, and breathed WoW.
When I revisit the soundtrack, I get a nostalgia that's so strong it's painful. What I would do to go back to those days. The new expacs bring me back but it never strikes the same beat that Wrath did.
Is world of warcraft good now?
@@Veeqaliber Comparatively, no. I recently jumped into BFA to get ready for Shadowlands ( after nearly a 2 year break), and it feels slow and boring.
Shadowlands is shaping up to be a great expansion though, so if you're thinking about it, I'd wait until then.
Barrett pickerd oke ill play wow classic then
during the pre-patch zombie invasion event, I had been playing a horde ret paladin for a while, was pretty much bis pre sunwell geared and was pretty much waiting for wotlk to drop. I remember doing my sunwell dailies and this HUGE group of zombie players and npc's were going around infecting players and killing off the quest mobs. As soon as they surrounded me I just bubbled up and hit holy wrath which was insanely op at that time. It instantly killed every single zombie and I began to get death threats from the players who had gone and made that giant zomball. 10/10 was well worth it and would do it again. Good memories.
Bro, warriors got heroic leap in cata!. Love your videos man. just had to point that fact out cuz i love my warrior
Did you hear about Blizz sending TBC surveys? Great video too!
aaah. part 2/2 I am sure will include the dungeon browser then.
There it is. Mentioning the music and just hearing that 10/10 chilled my spine. It's the first thing I think of when talking about WotLK
I remember the plague...
Played on the server Thrall and my dad, I, and his guild were the first horde to bring the plague to stormwind. It was way too funny watching alliance panic and run away or try and fight over 100 zombies.
Nice vid man, heroic leap came with cata tho
For me Wrath killed dungeons, as you said it was all about rotation and how fast you can kill stuff. Everything stuck like glue to the tank anyway, and healers had unlimited mana. Had fun Raiding in Wrath though.
In TBC I started off with a warlock, and trust me early progression was no joke. I remember frequently banish demons, watching the timer closely or me or the healer would be dead in a second.
Dotted up skull, while mildly dotting up X to squeeze out some extra dps, agen dot to hard on off-target me or healer = dead. (It really came down to how you expected the tank to preform)
To further increase dps, I watched dot timers extremely closely to not clip my dots, as that was a wasted tick.
You could not do heavy life tap without checking the healer's mana, If he/she had to go all out on the tank, chances was there was no resources to heal you up. At this point you had to consider Tap and coil to finish off the fight, but only if the 1 sec fear could not trigger other mobs. Or you where stuck with life-drain, horrible DPS, but kept you out of the 1 shot zone.
Point is, in TBC i had a feeling I had to make decisions on the fly all the time, this just disappeared in Wrath, as you just clicked whatever was off CD.
This was just some of the things that showed skilled play in TBC, A good hunter was often valued on how good he was on kiting, not on a rotation. Anyone that broke CC got a fair warning, as it normally resulted in a wipe. (Ok mage was op, but when are they not :) ), Hunters had the unique ability to CC two mele targets at the same time, The good ones strolled around the room like there was nothing to it eaven refreshing freezing trap. The not so good either panicked and feign death, or constantly backed into another group of mobs.
Then came Wrath, Aoe Tanks and unlimited mana. Sorry that broke dungeoning for me, as everything became all about clear-speed.
Playing a weak paladin for so long, it was so satisfying being the only class that was capable of killing a death knight.
Also Blizzard has never said it outright, but it was rumored that Crystalsong was intended for future content, but the whole zone lagged due to Dalaran being above and they just did nothign with it after that.
7:27 - Heroic leap wasn't added till Cataclysm?
Crystalsong Forest was empty by design, because Dalaran was placed there, and it would lag too much otherwise
The Wrath transition event was one of the most fun and hype-building events in the game.
9:48...I honestly don’t know which one was better probably fjord huh?
This expansion was my favorite.. I played vanilla and bc growing up never hitting max level till wrath. Best experience I ever had with wow . Really hope it comes back in a classic server !
I remember back at launch, doing Hellfire Ramparts with a full group of 5 with nothing but Blood DK's. They were so fucking strong and their self healing insane, good times!
The only expansion i truly loved, simply because enhance shamans were actually viable for one exp only, my skill level was big and my dps was strong and competitive, i reliably won charts in raids in ulduar and icc much to the butthurt of dks, was a great time, pity even then the cracks started to form in blizz, cut and delayed content, shamans being gimped by class health etc.
I still remember being benched for heroic icc because fully raid buffed and geared my health was way below even raiding rogues health pools, i simply took too much damage to compete in that fight, sad moment.
Heroic Leap wasn't added in Wrath. It was on the beta but never went live until Cataclysm.
God the intro music gives me shivers
it was an incredible expansion. TBC dungeons were harder, not a bad thing, and they scaled it back in Wraith, waaaaaay back. They were still fun. Overall, an amazing expansion.
God life was so simple
There was WoW and there was school
Nothing else haha
13:38 - Heroic leap is Catacylsm, I dunno where u read that information.
I remember the glyph that made Master's Call (Hunter pet freedom spell) from 4s duration to 8s duration..
8sec undispellable immune to movement impairing effects as a hunter was godgiven.
Also, Lagaran
such glyph didn't exist in wotlk, there was a talent like this, but in bm tree, but for arenas and bgs bm hunter wasn't that good unless played in beastcleave comp.
@@Anciet789 no it was a glyph.
wowwiki.fandom.com/wiki/Glyph_of_Master%27s_Call
Heroic Leap came out in cata. Love you.
These remind me of preach’s legacy series. And I LOVE them. Will you do classes at some point? Specifically, the one preach refuses to do for some reason, Legacy of the Hunter!
Lichborne also makes u immune to polymorph and sap effects but blizz probably forget to mention about it in ability tooltip lol
That's when I hid in Theramore :D - Hated the plague-event (it was kind of cool, but frankly: I wanted to level more alts at that time and that was not helping!)
Between Borean and Howling.. I guess Howling would be the more popular one, but I believe sentimentality got me loving both pretty much.
Wotlk was one of the best games I ever played... Special place in my heart forever.
Brecht same
Wrath of the Lich King was and will always be one of my favorite expansions right next to Mists of Pandaria. It was just -SO- good.