Ethiopic 3 Maccabees and the Qur’an

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  • A look at the story of Satan, who was created from fire, refusing to prostrate before Adam, who was created from clay, because the former felt the latter was beneath him, as found in both the Ge’ez Bible of the Ethiopian Orthodox Church and the Qur’an.
    SOURCES:
    [0:55] - Josef Horovitz, "Das Äthiopische Maccabäerbuch," Zeitschrift für Assyriologie und Vorderasiatische Archäologie," vol. XIX (1905), p. 195.
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    [1:16] - This Twitter thread is what leads me to believe the Eritrean Orthodox Church uses the version of 1st and 2nd Maccabees which parallels the Greek version:
    / 1824392832137699398
    [1:41] - Bəluy Kidan (Asmara: Ba-Máh̬tama Frántshaskáná, 1915), vol. 4
    Full text of 1 Maccabees:
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    Full text of 2 Maccabees:
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    [2:24] - Ge'ez manuscript UNESCO 2-24
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    Verse 1:1 - images 122-123
    Verse 1;15 - image 124
    Verse 2:9-10 - image 125
    [3:42] - This phenomenon of referring to Satan as Sabellius is briefly discussed in:
    Witold Witakowski, "The Vienna Protology: An Ethiopic Apocryphon on Creation, Adam and Eve, and Their Children," Orientalia Christiana Periodica, vol. 85 (2019), p. 461.
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  • @TheOrthodoxMoor
    @TheOrthodoxMoor 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    The Ge'ez videos are my personal favorite...This is fascinating. I've often said that I thought the Quran matches the Ethiopian Bible more than any other. The implications of this one are quite eye opening.

    • @mercer1995
      @mercer1995 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Ethiopia had Christianity very early. Nabatean and Syriac Christianity that broke away around Chalcedon and were thrown into chaos during the Persian invasion of eastern Rome in the 7th century, likely played a big part as well (as well as the the thousands of Jewish refugees). Aksum took control of the Jewish kingdom of Yemen around that time as well, they were Ethiopian Christians. That could’ve been where that influence came from.

  • @moeabe6228
    @moeabe6228 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The koran definitely borrowed the story of the fall of satan from Judaic Christian writings both Orthodox and hererodox. We find it in the Ethiopic Maqabees and as well as the the gospel of Bartholomew both which predate islam. It would seem that the Ethiopic is the likely source seeing as to how much the Ethiopian Orthodox Church has influenced islam. From tawheed to the bismillah, islam has been borrowing from sources they didnt fully understand hence its misapplication of practices due to improper tradition leads to a hodgepodge ideas that are fundamentlly opposed to one another. As even the qureshi said, muhammad was just an ear.

    • @s_u_r_v_i_v_o_r
      @s_u_r_v_i_v_o_r 21 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      That's one way of looking at it.
      The Koran acknowledges and accepts the validity of the biblical scriptures, even the Holy Spirit and that Yeshua was the Word of God that became flesh, and the Spirit of God. It all comes down to how you interpret and understand God's attributes, or dividing his attributes into seperate persons, or negating/affirming sonship.
      In the end, as someone who accepts the Bible and the Koran, I see the Judaic-Christian people similar to how Christians see the nation before them (Jews). Each rejects the book of the nation that succeeded it.

  • @TheOrthodoxMoor
    @TheOrthodoxMoor 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @Abu Is Satan ever referenced as a angel in this story in the Ethiopia texts?

    • @AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee
      @AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee  14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I’d say yes. I’ll try look at the manuscript closely, when I get before a desktop/laptop, but _preliminarily,_ looking from my phone right now, at the 4:37 mark of this video, when the last page goes on the screen, at roughly the center of the fourth/right column, right below where the crease across the page is, I see the following:
      አዕበየከ ርእሰከ እምኵሎሙ መላእክት
      That seems to me to mean roughly:
      "you were magnified and raised up [or made prince?] from all the angels"

    • @AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee
      @AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee  14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Addendum: in that same column, starting with the last word on the sixth line from the bottom, one sees the following:
      ነሠተከ እምኵሎሙ ሊቃነ መላእክት
      “He [i.e. the Lord] demoted you from all the chiefs of angels”

  • @HOWMUSICTV
    @HOWMUSICTV 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    3 Maccabees 4 is a cold scripture often avoided by our 1West fam. I asked a top leader about it and he said most people aren't that smart in the street to bring it up.