I really love the fact that this channel started to focus once again on studies and all around vegan knowledge. It has made me start following way more. Thank you
@@somedudeok1451 I feel like every creator has to try and pursue different strategies to entertain his/her audience. This channel has always been very focused on portraying the truth, by trying to give all the details about where the studies came from and so on. For a period of time the focus shifted onto the creator's personal life, which can be a choice. For what my own preferences are, seeing that the studies are piling up once again is great, cause that's the kind of content I personally prefer. But growth can't be achieved by being stagnant, so it's good for any channel to try and find the rhythm that works for them.
@@angelaciola2754 I don't think Mic is doing this for entertainment, but to inform people to help them make safe decisions. Telling people that women can't help themselves but lust for alpha chads does not help this goal (cause it's a reductive interpretation of these types of studies and negatively affects men's psyche). And I'm not quite sure which period for this channel you're referring to. Hasn't he always tried to make fact based videos? What videos on his person do you mean?
I feel so seen, or maybe called out 🤣 as I simply cannot sustain exercise for exercise’s sake. There has to be an accomplishment or a destination, not just better health. Building a shed, walking to the store etc.
So interesting! I go to the gym on my own but I like to follow a routine so I see familiar faces there. We don't talk, but they're my workout buddies in a way
That comment about salt being a proxy for minerals makes so much sense. It sent me straight to the kitchen to grab the Dulse I've been forgetting to take for the last few weeks because of work stress.
It certainly is without a way to regulate population growth. But even then, give enough time and the sun will become a red giant and eat up the earth, so still relatively temporary. I'd be realky surprised if we ever make a planetary management system that remains stable for a century, let alone til the sun changes.
@@HoboGardenerBen Responses like this, where we go from a comment about abundance to a comment about the sun becoming a red giant and 'eating up the earth' is the reason I laugh my ass off at people on the internet.
Survival by adhering group nostrums… Oh dear, I would not have surviived in the stone age… From a child I had no difficulty being different. This was so interesting - Thanks
You probably lacked the societal pressures that would have existed at the time that would have led to you being a different expression of your genetic material. You would not be you back then, you'd have been a completely different person. Much of who we are emerges from interaction with others, especially during infancy.
@@HoboGardenerBen I had the societal pressures of my day and managed to ignore quite a few of them. My idea is that societies need adherence for cohesion and people like me for change. Who knows what the stone age was like, but I might have been in danger of being burnt as a witch….
@@nommh Yeah, it's fun to imagine how your natural mix would have expressed itself in that era. Makes me wonder about that whole tricky nature urture balance and identity and all that. No clear answers, which I kinda like, keeps me interested :)
I've been vegan for 8 years now, I've also been exercising now for more than half my life. Both activities have had me kicking it by myself for upwards of 20 years. It's really not that hard ...
I remember when I made the connection between sweets and fruit. I realised that all the candy flavours were based on fruits, and were brightly coloured, just like fruit is. And to be honest, I genuinely prefer the taste of good fruit to candy. But fruit is unpredictable. Sometimes it’s sour, mealy, rock hard (not in a good way), overly soft, or just plain flavourless. There’s a world of difference between a good peach that’s in season, and a bad peach that’s out of season. One is delicious - better than any candy (imo); the other I’d sooner throw on the ground than eat.
Cool concept for a video Mike, and really interesting. Thanks! I would love to see you cover Dr. Brooke Goldner's protocol for reversing autoimmune disease. It relies heavily on flax, chia and avocados for calories. I wonder about the long term implications on microbiome, endothelial function, blood viscosity, etc. Thanks for all you do, you've been a great help to me 7+ years in this community.
Observational studies show it is more difficult to stop eating meat than it is to stop smoking. I am still looking for the top 3 professional athletes thriving in their respective sports on the carnivore diet
Maybe what's hard is deciding to quit. Actually quitting, once you've decided, is very easy. I've never quit smoking, but I have quit sugar, and the sugar cravings for the first week were RELENTLESS. Cravings for meat? There were none. Sure I liked the taste of meat, but I was never driven insane by my thoughts relentlessly circling back to the overpowering need to put meat in my mouth. (Sugar withdrawals were nuts lol. And that was 13 years ago!!!)
I found it very easy to stop eating meat. I didn’t like meat much in the first place, rarely finished a serving. I had some cravings for sugary foods for a few months, but never meat. Now berries are my favorite thing.
@@GuacamoleKun I craved meat so much that had to buy a pig to be eaten because I boycotted factory farmed meat. So we loved and treated Elmeri as a pet until slaughterer came to shot him. After figuring out what speciesm is about, I switched to plant based, went vegan and the cravings for TASTE of meat (which I had for a year or two) were fulfilled by Next level, Beoynd meat etc. After a while, even thought of eating meat feels aversive. Accidental meat in mouth (it was put in salad in tiny pieces) made me gag it out. Wouldn't ever have believed this could happen, but glad it did.
Thank you for all the content and information you provide here on this channel. This is a very interesting topic, how to work against our fundamental instincts in a hyperstimulation environment, to work for the betterment of our body and health.
Our behavior is influenced not only by evolutionary history, but also by chemicals produced by our gut microbiome (neurotransmitters, hormones, nutrients). The balance of gut bugs in most people is disrupted by modern living (bottle feeding, processed food, drugs, environmental toxins), which causes all kinds of problems, including cravings for bad food. Lots of new research exists on this, which I would love to see Mic apply his formidable skills to summarizing.
Good information, Mic! Thanks. My own transition to WFPB dining revolved around me "re-framing" what I think tastes amazing. Took some work, but over time I think I hacked my instincts to crave greens instead of pizza. Friends and family still see me as hard to understand, but due to what I most crave, that no longer matters. It's different for everyone, I know, but I salute vegans everywhere for creating healthier base instincts.
Yes. People addicted to salt, fat and sugar get very defensive, even at the slightest hint, as if they are drug addicts and you want to take their drug away.
This is interesting to consider, but it's not "one-size-fits-all" though. As a vegan struggling with low weight and appetite, the idea of cutting out oil frightens me. I rely on oil to make sure I get enough calories. I don't want to become a scary skeleton lady! :(
I get low appetite too. I've had some success with 2tsbp peanut butter on sweet meals and 2tbsp hulled tahini on savory meals. 6 small meals per day based on the cole hastings simple 4000cal diet
I can relate to this. I find it hard to eat enough calories on a plant-based diet, especially whole foods version, as you have to eat such large quantities, and I get easily full. Cutting out oil would make that even harder.
Thanks. Good points though they have been sort of in one's consciousness, but examined more deeply and with examples and data here. 👍Broccoli reminded me of a craving for salad leaves being at the centre of the plot of a fairy tale: Rapunzel shut up in her tower craved, and I think stole, salad leaves growing in the garden of a witch... something like that, as I recall vaguely. Then a prince climbed up her long hair which she let down from a window and rescued her. I'm hazy about the details but I feel that craving came from a need for vitamin C: being a princess she probably had a lot of meat and perhaps refined flour bread, butter, honey and in the temperate climate of Europe the most easily available source of Vitamin C at that particular time of year may have been lettuce... Well thanks again for presenting things to muse upon.
Apparently it was her mother’s craving for campanula. Probably due to food cravings during pregnancy. Her baby was traded to the witch for the campanula/rapunzel. She wasn’t a princess. But she might have ended up being rescued by a prince so that they could live happily ever after.
@@AtheistEve thanks, that's very interesting. I had forgotten the details and maybe also read only a simplified version as a child. Good to know the authentic story. I remember salad leaves and thought that must be lettuce.
Love your content, we seem to be on the same wavelength. Met my hero the other day, Dr Neal Barnard, seems us liked minded souls are being bought together :)
I was nearly a carnivore at 30 years old. I resolved to find out where Health lies and that required me to stop all the meat. resolve. Became a vegetarian for the next 40 years. Other than that it's about biological imperatives that may be keeping us from changing for the better. At 30 the damage was likely done to my heart. At 72 a heart attack found that I was 90% clogged in one artery and 30 to 40% in the others. Stent. Or was it all the ice cream I kept eating throughout all those 50 years?
I don't know if the damage persisted or not, but just because you quit meat does not mean you became healthier if you started eating processed non-meat products. If you want to improve your health as much as practically possible, then you need to gather all these processed junk foods with added sugar and throw them in the trash. Focus on whole foods, incorporate high fiber foods every time you eat something. You already have coronary artery disease, it doesnt get more serious than that, so you don't have the wiggle room to enjoy processed junk food. If you go 100% whole food plant based with zero unhealthy processed foods, and you still have issues, then I will say it's genetic. Books recommendation: How Not To Die by Dr Gregor
Just saying, you can probably get clogged on both diets, if it has too many saturated fats. Ice cream, yes, but also coconut oil, palm oil, and some nuts have saturated fats too. The American Heart Association recommends less than 13 grams of saturated fat on a 2000 calorie diet
Nice video. I hope we get more on neurophysiology in more videos! For certain addictions like alcohol, nicotine, opiates we find that the brain chemistry changes that occur can be permanent, particularly if the addiction started in child-teenage years. I presume these formative years also drive our food related behaviors. Some people who were fed processed crap in childhood have an extremely hard time as an adult eating healthy because these addiction related brain pathway changes are permenent.
I’d love to see a video on the science behind collagen supplements, bone broth, gelatin etc. For skin and joint health since it’s gaining a lot of traction and I don’t know what to think about as a vegan who struggles with hyper mobility
Excellent!! You covered concisely (and with humor :-)) the evolutionary adaptations I talk about with my health coaching clients. It boggles the mind how far our western culture has veered away from nature. Those of us who are trying to protect our bodies and minds from exploitation need to find like-minded (thank YOU, Mic, for being a shining light for us) others to form community with. There are many ways to get more planted ;-) in our values, and self-care mindset and habits. I love the work of BJ Fogg, for example. ~ Marian
Mic, you should get a CGM and make a video or series of videos about what you learn about your blood sugar responses. I loved your old series where you tested your blood sugar, but a CGM provides a whole 'nother level of data and access to experiment on yourself.
I walked past an open slaughter house in NYC's Chinatown when I was four years old. Blood everywhere. Walked into a parking meter and knocked myself out. Haven't eaten an animal since. That was nearly 60 years ago.
When I went vegan in 2010 (after 9 years of low carb & carnivore) my free testosterone went from 6.3 to 11 (in a 3 year timespan). I also started chasing women with higher voices like crazy! (JK, but maybe I did... I started chasing everything with a pulse, actually)
These are Extremely WEAK Excuses to Murder Somebody!!! Taste Please is DIFFERENT than Fear of Dying from starvation.There is Zero actual fear. It is just "I like it". And if these are good justifications for murder, than we have the Same (or Similar) Justifications for Sexual Assault (R...e)! This is disgusting. We must see the Truth: We are just so Selfish, that we are actually Evil!
Oliver Sacks had a case where an artist lost his colour vision so could only see in black and white. Food became unappealing, as did sex with his wife. He became rather depressed until one morning when he saw the sun rise (a huge black orb for him) and he realized he was now seeing the world in a unique way which reinspired his art.
I like thinking about this kind of thing. Good job covering a tricky subject. I remember reading Sex Before Dawn where he says the sound of women having sex will be heard by everyone over lots of background noise because it contains all sorts of data. It tells rival males she is fertile. It tells other females about his sexual capacity. Makes me think about the complex evolutionary social forces behind homosexuality and gender fluidity.
Its the power of stories. People like evolutionary explanations because they are a narrative and the one thing humans like as much as chocolate and cheese it is a story. So meta comment! The drive to make and watch the episode is and evolutionary one. Doesn't matter if any of the stories are true provided they motivate in the right ways.
I think the evolutionary biology effects of sexual behavior stuff is largely discredited. Maybe you can check Jessica Watson, I think I've seen her debunk that sort of stuff. [Adding] I could be wrong but I think she talked about studies debunking the stuff Jordan Peterson has been saying.
Zevia soda, if you drink it but don't like the price. I buy liquid stevia and then I pick out any flavored water that isn't sweet that I like and when I pour a glass of it I put the number of drops of stevia I want in it and it's pretty much the same. The initial cost of the stevia may be expensive but when you look at how many glasses you get out of it it's less expensive. A lot of bottles of flavored water run around a dollar so it's a no brainer on saving money and less waste.🤔🤔
Yeah right! I’m much more flexible and diverse and feel much more satisfied with what I eat than what you eat matey! 😜😂👍 Oh yeah! ;) Last week, I had fish and chips for my tea on Friday and I got full up too quickly! XD
Great talk. Saw a video with a US woman saying she noticed the French culture meant she got called out for being overweight by friends etc. She thinks it is a big reason why the French are not so fat. Which rarely happens in the US. Culture can play a part too.
I'm from Paris and telling people they're fat is also taboo. You could only do that to a very close friend or family member, and not in public, and with downplaying the severity of the weight gain "you've gained a little bit of weigh, didn't you?". I suppose the fat acceptance movement is also strong in France. One doctor of a friend didn't dare to tell her that the best solution to improve glycemic control was weight loss, only after I told her to ask him did the doctor said "yes it is indeed the most effective strategy"
I think the French move their bodies more than Americans. Traffic for instance, it's very hard in the States to walk to a store with the ways roads are set up (watch the channel Not Just Bikes, he talks about American and Canadian roads a lot and how they s***).
Has anybody in this movement or anybody who enjoys this channel ever met a diabetic that doesn't think that sugar is the main problem with their disease?
I've been transitioning to a vegan diet what type of foods would you reccomend for bigger guys like me I weigh about 220 pounds I'm trying to maintain weight and it's been good though but I'm struggling to maintain that weight
Every month I think what a crazy thing ovulation is; all men suddenly start looking more attractive. 😂 Also baby fever... I really hope I won't feel that anymore, I have already done my part. 🙈
so I have this problem where there seems to be some conflict with the signaling. I want to eat healthy, but I also want to consume as much calories as possible since my target weight is significantly higher than my current weight. it's not even necessarily muscle mass, I just generally want to gain weight. I literally want to be fatter (of course, I still wouldn't be overweight in the slightest). so what to do? is sticking to let's say 50% processed food fine for someone who has genes where obesity is out of the picture? I mean, for someone who struggles extremely to gain weight by any means, telling them that they have to manage it with raw fruits and vegetables only doesn't seem good advice.
There's a lot more to it than raw fruits and vegetables. Carbohydrates are significant and so are nuts and pulses to a healthy diet. I would seek out more personalised informed help with your diet, as you have a specific need, but try reading Dr Michael Gregor or Dr Neal Bernard and others of this ilk for a start. Eating processed food might help you put on weight, but it is also making your insides unhealthy. Not a good trade off. I'm sure you can find a better alternative with the wfpb community.
We can taste copper, but we don't have copper receptors on our tongue to pick minute amounts up from food? I think it works something like that. I can lick copper candlesticks and taste it. But do we really distinguish between tasting copper, brass, tin or iron? Or do we just taste metallic?
It's interesting to see how many people were thin when younger, but by 50 they have usually gained weight. Many years of overeating just a little bit will do it. That's why I always catch myself if I gain even one kilo, and get rid ofit right away. I'm still thin at 66.
However, 31% of adult Australians are obese. I got obese after being put on psychiatric medications. A lot of people are on psychiatric medications, and they make people very fat.
wait, "women are more likely to respond positive to romantic ques on a full stomach" While that makes a bit of sense, why did they not include men? Wouldn't it be the same?
I just have to remind myself of how everyone was whining that they had to stay indoors during covid. The animals are locked up their whole lives yall! Yes, Free Palestine indeed. I can recommend you Gaza from Marillion. Beautiful number (great band too).
If everyone gets one friend to join MIC would be at 800k tomorrow. Once you reach that level 1 million comes and then his algorithm chances and a LOT more people see the vegan fact man!!!
First time one of your videos rubbed me the wrong way. Let me explain. While evolution as a theory in biology is legitimate and has scientific consensus, a lot of derivative interdisciplinary science (i.e. evolutionary psychology etc.) rests on highly culturally biased and arbitrary prejudices in the formulation of their hypotheses. Speculative narratives of evolution are interesting and while reasonable as an explanatory principle that doesn't mean that the author's/researcher's specific personal interpretation of phenomena through the evolutionary lens is the correct one, as one could interpret the same phenomena through the evolutionary lens in multiple ways. The erroneous presumption of understanding the biological imperative behind phenomena at the hypothesis stage does not get challenged in this type of scientific inquiry because the presumptions get embedded in the method of study, as opposed to being falsifiable as the object of study. Scientific studies with poor methodology can and do get carried out and they generate results but the implicit bias distort the findings.
Mmm, 1\10 opiate coagulated cow juice, sounds delightful. I really wish it didn't taste so good. I know it's addictive and harms the planet and animals and my health, but it really does taste amazing when browned on a pizza. I was raised ovo lacto vegetarian and pizza was like a gateway to normality for me, I could eat something with other kids. We made it from scratch on thanksgiving since we didn't eat turkey. I worked at pizza places a bunch of times when young, learned about life there. I got caught up in the geometric perfection, laying on the ingredients perfectly and watching the cheese brown and develop all those maillard flavors. My attachment to pizza is multifaceted. Vegan pizza cheese, sadly, is gross, it just cannot replace real cheese yet for that. Chao is a pretty good grilled cheese, but nowhere near as good as real swiss. There really is a huge gap in terms of texture and flavor. If they figure it out I will happily be vegan. They gotta make it unhealthy but delicious, indulgent. If it doesn't scratch that itch perfectly it will not defeat real cheese. The should put opiates in vegan cheese, whatever it takes. I don't want to hurt the cows, but I will continue to do so by eating cheese until vegan cheese is perfected.
I was vegetarian for decades. It was hard to cut out at first, but if you tough it out, cheese will taste disgusting. My spouse isn't vegan but mostly eats like I do. He tried some of his favorite cheese after not eating cheese for a few months, and he said it tasted awful. Now he never eats dairy cheese
@@sandray7609 I went 3 months fully vegan, actually hardcore whole food plant based. Tracked my nutrients to plan meals on cronometer and everything. Pizza was still completely delicious, even when I found the idea of it disgusting. I still do find the idea of cheese disgusting, it really is fermented cow juice, horrible thought, but definitely super delicious.
@@HoboGardenerBen not to me - tastes awful to me now, just like chicken broth. It is not delicious at all. Maybe you never let your palate change enough
@@sandray7609 Maybe. I hear ya on chicken broth, don't like the flavor. I do like some seafood and fish, but most meat isn't attractive to me. Part of that is we're never hungry. I did a primitive survival course in Utah in 2007 and they killed a sheep as part of the class after we had been starving and hiking for 3 days and the stuff we made from it was definitely super delicious then. I could feel it power up my metabolism, the warmth when sleeping that first fed night under my tarp was insanely different from when I was hungry. That was a hardcore experience being raised vegetarian, I cried like a baby to see that sheep killed. Definitely not something I'd do again without survival being on the line. Veganism is a luxury given to us by the global industrial food distribution system. If a long collapse happened I'd definitely eat meat again, true hunger changes you, and I've only experienced the shallow end.
@@HoboGardenerBen I would probably starve. How horrific. The smell of death and raw meat cooking makes me gag. Nothing about it is appealing. Veganism is the diet of the poor not luxury. The peasants lived off bread and potatoes. The Kings and Queens ate the meat and got fat and suffered with gout.
I really love the fact that this channel started to focus once again on studies and all around vegan knowledge. It has made me start following way more. Thank you
Technological civilization hijacked our brains 👉 The Connections (2021) [short documentary] ❤
Yet in the beginning of this video he didn't talk about veganism, but rather some (poorly interpreted) studies on flirting.
What are you talking about? Over 90% of his videos have science cited in them.
@@somedudeok1451 I feel like every creator has to try and pursue different strategies to entertain his/her audience. This channel has always been very focused on portraying the truth, by trying to give all the details about where the studies came from and so on. For a period of time the focus shifted onto the creator's personal life, which can be a choice. For what my own preferences are, seeing that the studies are piling up once again is great, cause that's the kind of content I personally prefer.
But growth can't be achieved by being stagnant, so it's good for any channel to try and find the rhythm that works for them.
@@angelaciola2754 I don't think Mic is doing this for entertainment, but to inform people to help them make safe decisions. Telling people that women can't help themselves but lust for alpha chads does not help this goal (cause it's a reductive interpretation of these types of studies and negatively affects men's psyche). And I'm not quite sure which period for this channel you're referring to. Hasn't he always tried to make fact based videos? What videos on his person do you mean?
I feel so seen, or maybe called out 🤣 as I simply cannot sustain exercise for exercise’s sake. There has to be an accomplishment or a destination, not just better health. Building a shed, walking to the store etc.
So interesting! I go to the gym on my own but I like to follow a routine so I see familiar faces there. We don't talk, but they're my workout buddies in a way
Do you nod, smile, or wave at each other?
Yeah, body dubbeling is great!
@@catlyn777 I nod at everyone that makes eye contact, just in case they think they became ghosts 👻
That comment about salt being a proxy for minerals makes so much sense. It sent me straight to the kitchen to grab the Dulse I've been forgetting to take for the last few weeks because of work stress.
Technological civilization hijacked our brains 👉 The Connections (2021) [short documentary] ❤
I remember how salt was used in science labs
I love dulse! It’s so yummy. I like it on avocado toast and salad, and it’s also nice to snack on straight.
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Technological civilization hijacked our brains 👉 The Connections (2021) [short documentary] ❤
Low-key, one of your better videos, Mic! Filled with densely-packed units of insightful information ;)
I totally agree
Technological civilization hijacked our brains 👉 The Connections (2021) [short documentary] ❤
👍 Whole food plant based for the environment and health; vegan for the victims!
*Ask your city government to sign the Plant Based Treaty!* 🖖
Technological civilization hijacked our brains 👉 The Connections (2021) [short documentary] ❤
Slightly different from your usual fare, but I really enjoyed this. Thanks so much for posting!
Abundance may very well be a temporary condition evolutionarily.
It certainly is without a way to regulate population growth. But even then, give enough time and the sun will become a red giant and eat up the earth, so still relatively temporary. I'd be realky surprised if we ever make a planetary management system that remains stable for a century, let alone til the sun changes.
Technological civilization hijacked our brains 👉 The Connections (2021) [short documentary] ❤
@@HoboGardenerBen Responses like this, where we go from a comment about abundance to a comment about the sun becoming a red giant and 'eating up the earth' is the reason I laugh my ass off at people on the internet.
@@sirlcl4010 Ya, that's how I enjoy writing comments. Take every side path, the windier the better. Losing the point entirely is the goal :)
@@sirlcl4010 That was actually quite focused and on topic for me, lol :)
thank you for the video. i hope this triggers more people doing research on this subject
Survival by adhering group nostrums… Oh dear, I would not have surviived in the stone age… From a child I had no difficulty being different. This was so interesting - Thanks
You probably lacked the societal pressures that would have existed at the time that would have led to you being a different expression of your genetic material. You would not be you back then, you'd have been a completely different person. Much of who we are emerges from interaction with others, especially during infancy.
Technological civilization hijacked our brains 👉 The Connections (2021) [short documentary] ❤
@@HoboGardenerBen I had the societal pressures of my day and managed to ignore quite a few of them. My idea is that societies need adherence for cohesion and people like me for change. Who knows what the stone age was like, but I might have been in danger of being burnt as a witch….
@@nommh Yeah, it's fun to imagine how your natural mix would have expressed itself in that era. Makes me wonder about that whole tricky nature
urture balance and identity and all that. No clear answers, which I kinda like, keeps me interested :)
I've been vegan for 8 years now, I've also been exercising now for more than half my life. Both activities have had me kicking it by myself for upwards of 20 years. It's really not that hard ...
Me too. It never seems to rub off on the people around me. I also don't care about standing out or being different, so maybe that is why.
> had me kicking it by myself
what does that mean?
@@holleey 'kicking it' it means 'going out' might be skateboarder talk
I remember when I made the connection between sweets and fruit. I realised that all the candy flavours were based on fruits, and were brightly coloured, just like fruit is. And to be honest, I genuinely prefer the taste of good fruit to candy. But fruit is unpredictable. Sometimes it’s sour, mealy, rock hard (not in a good way), overly soft, or just plain flavourless. There’s a world of difference between a good peach that’s in season, and a bad peach that’s out of season. One is delicious - better than any candy (imo); the other I’d sooner throw on the ground than eat.
Cool concept for a video Mike, and really interesting. Thanks! I would love to see you cover Dr. Brooke Goldner's protocol for reversing autoimmune disease. It relies heavily on flax, chia and avocados for calories. I wonder about the long term implications on microbiome, endothelial function, blood viscosity, etc. Thanks for all you do, you've been a great help to me 7+ years in this community.
For people who want to learn more I highly recommend the book The Pleasure Trap.
Observational studies show it is more difficult to stop eating meat than it is to stop smoking. I am still looking for the top 3 professional athletes thriving in their respective sports on the carnivore diet
Tarahumara, virtually vegan. Low fat too.
Maybe what's hard is deciding to quit. Actually quitting, once you've decided, is very easy. I've never quit smoking, but I have quit sugar, and the sugar cravings for the first week were RELENTLESS. Cravings for meat? There were none. Sure I liked the taste of meat, but I was never driven insane by my thoughts relentlessly circling back to the overpowering need to put meat in my mouth. (Sugar withdrawals were nuts lol. And that was 13 years ago!!!)
I found it very easy to stop eating meat. I didn’t like meat much in the first place, rarely finished a serving. I had some cravings for sugary foods for a few months, but never meat. Now berries are my favorite thing.
@@GuacamoleKun I craved meat so much that had to buy a pig to be eaten because I boycotted factory farmed meat. So we loved and treated Elmeri as a pet until slaughterer came to shot him. After figuring out what speciesm is about, I switched to plant based, went vegan and the cravings for TASTE of meat (which I had for a year or two) were fulfilled by Next level, Beoynd meat etc. After a while, even thought of eating meat feels aversive. Accidental meat in mouth (it was put in salad in tiny pieces) made me gag it out. Wouldn't ever have believed this could happen, but glad it did.
That was the reason I first dropped meat in the 1980s. Then I found out about the horrors of the farming industry
Informative and helpful. Thanks for this 🖤
Thank you for all the content and information you provide here on this channel. This is a very interesting topic, how to work against our fundamental instincts in a hyperstimulation environment, to work for the betterment of our body and health.
Our behavior is influenced not only by evolutionary history, but also by chemicals produced by our gut microbiome (neurotransmitters, hormones, nutrients). The balance of gut bugs in most people is disrupted by modern living (bottle feeding, processed food, drugs, environmental toxins), which causes all kinds of problems, including cravings for bad food. Lots of new research exists on this, which I would love to see Mic apply his formidable skills to summarizing.
Good information, Mic! Thanks. My own transition to WFPB dining revolved around me "re-framing" what I think tastes amazing. Took some work, but over time I think I hacked my instincts to crave greens instead of pizza.
Friends and family still see me as hard to understand, but due to what I most crave, that no longer matters.
It's different for everyone, I know, but I salute vegans everywhere for creating healthier base instincts.
"wales have lost the ability to taste 3 of 5 tastes they initially had" "like for example sugar and bitter
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WHAT IS NUMBER 3 THO 😩😩😩😩😩
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Yes. People addicted to salt, fat and sugar get very defensive, even at the slightest hint, as if they are drug addicts and you want to take their drug away.
And they talk about moderation like I am radical eating WFPB. Then they can't define moderation 🙄
Technological civilization hijacked our brains 👉 The Connections (2021) [short documentary] ❤
Do you mean "addicted" to fat from hemp seeds or sugar from fresh fruit? Or the basic salt amount needed for adults? Like we are addicted to air now?
This is interesting to consider, but it's not "one-size-fits-all" though. As a vegan struggling with low weight and appetite, the idea of cutting out oil frightens me. I rely on oil to make sure I get enough calories. I don't want to become a scary skeleton lady! :(
I get low appetite too. I've had some success with 2tsbp peanut butter on sweet meals and 2tbsp hulled tahini on savory meals. 6 small meals per day based on the cole hastings simple 4000cal diet
I can relate to this. I find it hard to eat enough calories on a plant-based diet, especially whole foods version, as you have to eat such large quantities, and I get easily full. Cutting out oil would make that even harder.
Thanks. Good points though they have been sort of in one's consciousness, but examined more deeply and with examples and data here. 👍Broccoli reminded me of a craving for salad leaves being at the centre of the plot of a fairy tale: Rapunzel shut up in her tower craved, and I think stole, salad leaves growing in the garden of a witch... something like that, as I recall vaguely. Then a prince climbed up her long hair which she let down from a window and rescued her.
I'm hazy about the details but I feel that craving came from a need for vitamin C: being a princess she probably had a lot of meat and perhaps refined flour bread, butter, honey and in the temperate climate of Europe the most easily available source of Vitamin C at that particular time of year may have been lettuce...
Well thanks again for presenting things to muse upon.
Apparently it was her mother’s craving for campanula. Probably due to food cravings during pregnancy. Her baby was traded to the witch for the campanula/rapunzel. She wasn’t a princess. But she might have ended up being rescued by a prince so that they could live happily ever after.
@@AtheistEve thanks, that's very interesting. I had forgotten the details and maybe also read only a simplified version as a child. Good to know the authentic story. I remember salad leaves and thought that must be lettuce.
Guten abend
Hi thankyou since now ..going to listen to ur post!🙋♀️
Very interesting video. It's always good to remember where we came from and why we do what we do.
Technological civilization hijacked our brains 👉 The Connections (2021) [short documentary] ❤
I'm so very looking forward to this video. I have clearly seen the evidence to this claim, before now.
Technological civilization hijacked our brains 👉 The Connections (2021) [short documentary] ❤
Very interesting video, thank you!
Love your content, we seem to be on the same wavelength. Met my hero the other day, Dr Neal Barnard, seems us liked minded souls are being bought together :)
Hey Mic, have you read The pleasure trap?
what an interesting topic, would love to hear more about this!💖
I was nearly a carnivore at 30 years old. I resolved to find out where Health lies and that required me to stop all the meat. resolve. Became a vegetarian for the next 40 years. Other than that it's about biological imperatives that may be keeping us from changing for the better.
At 30 the damage was likely done to my heart. At 72 a heart attack found that I was 90% clogged in one artery and 30 to 40% in the others. Stent.
Or was it all the ice cream I kept eating throughout all those 50 years?
I don't know if the damage persisted or not, but just because you quit meat does not mean you became healthier if you started eating processed non-meat products.
If you want to improve your health as much as practically possible, then you need to gather all these processed junk foods with added sugar and throw them in the trash. Focus on whole foods, incorporate high fiber foods every time you eat something. You already have coronary artery disease, it doesnt get more serious than that, so you don't have the wiggle room to enjoy processed junk food.
If you go 100% whole food plant based with zero unhealthy processed foods, and you still have issues, then I will say it's genetic.
Books recommendation: How Not To Die by Dr Gregor
Yes, probably anything you ate that did not have fiber hurt you. And saturated fats from dairy.
It depends on how much fat you kept in your diet, especially saturated fats greatly attribute to atherosclerosis.
Just saying, you can probably get clogged on both diets, if it has too many saturated fats. Ice cream, yes, but also coconut oil, palm oil, and some nuts have saturated fats too. The American Heart Association recommends less than 13 grams of saturated fat on a 2000 calorie diet
Vegetarian is usually milk, cheese, eggs, butter- the worst foods for heart disease. You weren't very specific about what you were eating
High value video. That's some basics in BioPsychology. Very interesting stuff.
Eating fruits and vegetables is good for you
Nice video. I hope we get more on neurophysiology in more videos!
For certain addictions like alcohol, nicotine, opiates we find that the brain chemistry changes that occur can be permanent, particularly if the addiction started in child-teenage years. I presume these formative years also drive our food related behaviors. Some people who were fed processed crap in childhood have an extremely hard time as an adult eating healthy because these addiction related brain pathway changes are permenent.
we evolved to be smart enough to figure stuff out
We evolved to be smart enough to feel self-conscious about not being able to change our habits.
Technological civilization hijacked our brains 👉 The Connections (2021) [short documentary] ❤
I’d love to see a video on the science behind collagen supplements, bone broth, gelatin etc. For skin and joint health since it’s gaining a lot of traction and I don’t know what to think about as a vegan who struggles with hyper mobility
Mic is one of the best you tubers ever.
Excellent!! You covered concisely (and with humor :-)) the evolutionary adaptations I talk about with my health coaching clients. It boggles the mind how far our western culture has veered away from nature. Those of us who are trying to protect our bodies and minds from exploitation need to find like-minded (thank YOU, Mic, for being a shining light for us) others to form community with. There are many ways to get more planted ;-) in our values, and self-care mindset and habits. I love the work of BJ Fogg, for example. ~ Marian
This was super interesting. ❤
Mic, you should get a CGM and make a video or series of videos about what you learn about your blood sugar responses. I loved your old series where you tested your blood sugar, but a CGM provides a whole 'nother level of data and access to experiment on yourself.
I walked past an open slaughter house in NYC's Chinatown when I was four years old. Blood everywhere. Walked into a parking meter and knocked myself out. Haven't eaten an animal since. That was nearly 60 years ago.
When I went vegan in 2010 (after 9 years of low carb & carnivore) my free testosterone went from 6.3 to 11 (in a 3 year timespan).
I also started chasing women with higher voices like crazy!
(JK, but maybe I did... I started chasing everything with a pulse, actually)
Vegan virility ftw!
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Hey, that's part of the reason why i workout, it just makes finding a would-be partner very easy.
If I have an instinctive urge to overcome instinctive urges, what should I do??
I wonder if inuits were able to turn their vitamic C synthesis genes back on?
These are Extremely WEAK Excuses to Murder Somebody!!!
Taste Please is DIFFERENT than Fear of Dying from starvation.There is Zero actual fear. It is just "I like it". And if these are good justifications for murder, than we have the Same (or Similar) Justifications for Sexual Assault (R...e)!
This is disgusting.
We must see the Truth: We are just so Selfish, that we are actually Evil!
Boom 💥 2nd!
Oliver Sacks had a case where an artist lost his colour vision so could only see in black and white. Food became unappealing, as did sex with his wife. He became rather depressed until one morning when he saw the sun rise (a huge black orb for him) and he realized he was now seeing the world in a unique way which reinspired his art.
I like thinking about this kind of thing. Good job covering a tricky subject. I remember reading Sex Before Dawn where he says the sound of women having sex will be heard by everyone over lots of background noise because it contains all sorts of data. It tells rival males she is fertile. It tells other females about his sexual capacity. Makes me think about the complex evolutionary social forces behind homosexuality and gender fluidity.
Its the power of stories. People like evolutionary explanations because they are a narrative and the one thing humans like as much as chocolate and cheese it is a story. So meta comment! The drive to make and watch the episode is and evolutionary one. Doesn't matter if any of the stories are true provided they motivate in the right ways.
I find behavioural science so interesting! Mic, are you familiar with Robert Sapolsky?
Thrive Market supply meat?
I think the evolutionary biology effects of sexual behavior stuff is largely discredited.
Maybe you can check Jessica Watson, I think I've seen her debunk that sort of stuff.
[Adding] I could be wrong but I think she talked about studies debunking the stuff Jordan Peterson has been saying.
Only find a sailor with that name
Could you make an episode on vegan keto diet, please? But please do not mix up moderate ketosis with ketoacidosis...bw.
Zevia soda, if you drink it but don't like the price. I buy liquid stevia and then I pick out any flavored water that isn't sweet that I like and when I pour a glass of it I put the number of drops of stevia I want in it and it's pretty much the same. The initial cost of the stevia may be expensive but when you look at how many glasses you get out of it it's less expensive. A lot of bottles of flavored water run around a dollar so it's a no brainer on saving money and less waste.🤔🤔
Technological civilization hijacked our brains 👉 The Connections (2021) [short documentary] ❤
Somehow we need to enlist our gut microbiome, it is shown to effect our decisions
Yeah right! I’m much more flexible and diverse and feel much more satisfied with what I eat than what you eat matey! 😜😂👍
Oh yeah! ;) Last week, I had fish and chips for my tea on Friday and I got full up too quickly! XD
What's the deal with the sweater? Not winter yet is it?
Vegans feel the cold more, like the elderly.
Lmao what a weird question
Great talk. Saw a video with a US woman saying she noticed the French culture meant she got called out for being overweight by friends etc. She thinks it is a big reason why the French are not so fat. Which rarely happens in the US. Culture can play a part too.
@@andrewnorris5415 interesting.
I'm from Paris and telling people they're fat is also taboo. You could only do that to a very close friend or family member, and not in public, and with downplaying the severity of the weight gain "you've gained a little bit of weigh, didn't you?". I suppose the fat acceptance movement is also strong in France. One doctor of a friend didn't dare to tell her that the best solution to improve glycemic control was weight loss, only after I told her to ask him did the doctor said "yes it is indeed the most effective strategy"
I think the French move their bodies more than Americans. Traffic for instance, it's very hard in the States to walk to a store with the ways roads are set up (watch the channel Not Just Bikes, he talks about American and Canadian roads a lot and how they s***).
I think there is a cultural tendency to smaller portion sizes. Not the super size mindset
Has anybody in this movement or anybody who enjoys this channel ever met a diabetic that doesn't think that sugar is the main problem with their disease?
I've been transitioning to a vegan diet what type of foods would you reccomend for bigger guys like me I weigh about 220 pounds I'm trying to maintain weight and it's been good though but I'm struggling to maintain that weight
Free will is an illusion.
Please do a reaction video to Amanda Castillo’s no longer vegan video. It’s…something.
Wow...front page news.....
So the take of is to go againts your nature for higher survivity rate.
Can you please make a video about leprosy and psoriasis ans its cure!!!!
Thanks!
Mic, I recommend avoiding taking Evo-Psych too seriously.
Every month I think what a crazy thing ovulation is; all men suddenly start looking more attractive. 😂 Also baby fever... I really hope I won't feel that anymore, I have already done my part. 🙈
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Cheese was hard to stop eating but I did it ☺️
Why do cows n that have salt licks dont they know salt is bad
so I have this problem where there seems to be some conflict with the signaling.
I want to eat healthy, but I also want to consume as much calories as possible since my target weight is significantly higher than my current weight.
it's not even necessarily muscle mass, I just generally want to gain weight. I literally want to be fatter (of course, I still wouldn't be overweight in the slightest).
so what to do? is sticking to let's say 50% processed food fine for someone who has genes where obesity is out of the picture?
I mean, for someone who struggles extremely to gain weight by any means, telling them that they have to manage it with raw fruits and vegetables only doesn't seem good advice.
There's a lot more to it than raw fruits and vegetables. Carbohydrates are significant and so are nuts and pulses to a healthy diet. I would seek out more personalised informed help with your diet, as you have a specific need, but try reading Dr Michael Gregor or Dr Neal Bernard and others of this ilk for a start. Eating processed food might help you put on weight, but it is also making your insides unhealthy. Not a good trade off. I'm sure you can find a better alternative with the wfpb community.
Ps- MIC do you only smoke vegan weed or what ? 😅😂 hehe Chicks Beavis
You mean other people can't taste copper?
We can taste copper, but we don't have copper receptors on our tongue to pick minute amounts up from food? I think it works something like that. I can lick copper candlesticks and taste it. But do we really distinguish between tasting copper, brass, tin or iron? Or do we just taste metallic?
Salt = minerals. Sugar = vitamins
Hello everyone
Greetings from Finland!
Women are more likely to respond to romantic cues on a full stomach.
Women everywhere: we could have told you that
So why are there so many people who are not vulnerable to obesity?
They use the same amount of energy as they consume.
It's interesting to see how many people were thin when younger, but by 50 they have usually gained weight. Many years of overeating just a little bit will do it. That's why I always catch myself if I gain even one kilo, and get rid ofit right away. I'm still thin at 66.
Where do you see these people, because most people in the states have a bmi that would list them as obese.
@@11235Aodh I've never been to America.
However, 31% of adult Australians are obese. I got obese after being put on psychiatric medications. A lot of people are on psychiatric medications, and they make people very fat.
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wait, "women are more likely to respond positive to romantic ques on a full stomach"
While that makes a bit of sense, why did they not include men? Wouldn't it be the same?
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'non vegan friends'?
If you want to know how bad it is for the animals ask the Palestinians.....Free Palestine....
I just have to remind myself of how everyone was whining that they had to stay indoors during covid. The animals are locked up their whole lives yall! Yes, Free Palestine indeed. I can recommend you Gaza from Marillion. Beautiful number (great band too).
You chose to mess with god and the balance of the yin and yang.
If everyone gets one friend to join MIC would be at 800k tomorrow. Once you reach that level 1 million comes and then his algorithm chances and a LOT more people see the vegan fact man!!!
SHUTUP dude.
Mic the vegan tested me once. I ate his liver with some fava beans and nice Chianti.
If you have a point to make. Go and debate! Talk to some people. Don’t just sit in your echo chamber. Why are you such a coward?!
A lack of quality protein and amino acids perhaps🤔
How many peer-reviewed studies will it take for you to wash your hair?
First time one of your videos rubbed me the wrong way. Let me explain. While evolution as a theory in biology is legitimate and has scientific consensus, a lot of derivative interdisciplinary science (i.e. evolutionary psychology etc.) rests on highly culturally biased and arbitrary prejudices in the formulation of their hypotheses. Speculative narratives of evolution are interesting and while reasonable as an explanatory principle that doesn't mean that the author's/researcher's specific personal interpretation of phenomena through the evolutionary lens is the correct one, as one could interpret the same phenomena through the evolutionary lens in multiple ways. The erroneous presumption of understanding the biological imperative behind phenomena at the hypothesis stage does not get challenged in this type of scientific inquiry because the presumptions get embedded in the method of study, as opposed to being falsifiable as the object of study. Scientific studies with poor methodology can and do get carried out and they generate results but the implicit bias distort the findings.
I don't think the content of this video used poorly done research, and it's not conclusive in tone.
evolution isn't real 😅
I don’t think he could even define what evolution is, or what Darwinism is, or what the difference between those two terms is.
@@sirlcl4010 figment of the imagination of an old man
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You get paid more, when you're re on you're monthly Ovaltine cycle.
I'm gonna try that... 🍫🚲
14:07 you’re taking their calories or are you taking their morphine? 😂😂😂😂
Mmm, 1\10 opiate coagulated cow juice, sounds delightful. I really wish it didn't taste so good. I know it's addictive and harms the planet and animals and my health, but it really does taste amazing when browned on a pizza. I was raised ovo lacto vegetarian and pizza was like a gateway to normality for me, I could eat something with other kids. We made it from scratch on thanksgiving since we didn't eat turkey. I worked at pizza places a bunch of times when young, learned about life there. I got caught up in the geometric perfection, laying on the ingredients perfectly and watching the cheese brown and develop all those maillard flavors. My attachment to pizza is multifaceted. Vegan pizza cheese, sadly, is gross, it just cannot replace real cheese yet for that. Chao is a pretty good grilled cheese, but nowhere near as good as real swiss. There really is a huge gap in terms of texture and flavor. If they figure it out I will happily be vegan. They gotta make it unhealthy but delicious, indulgent. If it doesn't scratch that itch perfectly it will not defeat real cheese. The should put opiates in vegan cheese, whatever it takes. I don't want to hurt the cows, but I will continue to do so by eating cheese until vegan cheese is perfected.
I was vegetarian for decades. It was hard to cut out at first, but if you tough it out, cheese will taste disgusting. My spouse isn't vegan but mostly eats like I do. He tried some of his favorite cheese after not eating cheese for a few months, and he said it tasted awful. Now he never eats dairy cheese
@@sandray7609 I went 3 months fully vegan, actually hardcore whole food plant based. Tracked my nutrients to plan meals on cronometer and everything. Pizza was still completely delicious, even when I found the idea of it disgusting. I still do find the idea of cheese disgusting, it really is fermented cow juice, horrible thought, but definitely super delicious.
@@HoboGardenerBen not to me - tastes awful to me now, just like chicken broth. It is not delicious at all. Maybe you never let your palate change enough
@@sandray7609 Maybe. I hear ya on chicken broth, don't like the flavor. I do like some seafood and fish, but most meat isn't attractive to me. Part of that is we're never hungry. I did a primitive survival course in Utah in 2007 and they killed a sheep as part of the class after we had been starving and hiking for 3 days and the stuff we made from it was definitely super delicious then. I could feel it power up my metabolism, the warmth when sleeping that first fed night under my tarp was insanely different from when I was hungry.
That was a hardcore experience being raised vegetarian, I cried like a baby to see that sheep killed. Definitely not something I'd do again without survival being on the line. Veganism is a luxury given to us by the global industrial food distribution system. If a long collapse happened I'd definitely eat meat again, true hunger changes you, and I've only experienced the shallow end.
@@HoboGardenerBen I would probably starve. How horrific. The smell of death and raw meat cooking makes me gag. Nothing about it is appealing. Veganism is the diet of the poor not luxury. The peasants lived off bread and potatoes. The Kings and Queens ate the meat and got fat and suffered with gout.