Yup. The sub37 filter is magical. It really is. I've yet to find anything in a modular (or semi-modular) that comes close. If it wasn't such a pita to use with modular gear, I'd use it in every video. Wish I'd bought the CV version, but you know, captain hindsight will always be there at some point with any purchase :/
Thanks for sharing your performance. I can dig it. I was really curious why there seem to be no videos showing the Sub37 utilizing the DFAM for the drum/bass. Seems like they could really fill out a whole moog ensemble together.
Mainly because that was the first time I managed to get the sub37 to play nicely with my modular :) Then some gigs got in the way, so haven't had another chance to hook them since this video was taken...
Great Jam man, i recently purchased the subsequent 37 and already have a subharmonicon - im interested in how you connected them together and which one was controlling what? Fairly new to pairing hardware together so the information would be much appreciated! Thank you and will definitely subscribe
So, if I remember correctly, I'm likely to be clocking the sub37 from the modular (about the only way that works AFAIK - not a midi kind of guy myself, although I'm sure that would probably be an option). Iirc, you can run the clock out from the subharmonicon into the gate input jack on the sub37 (but only that jack). You need to do some menu diving, but you can set that input to 'sequence advance', or something along those lines (possibly arp advance?). You'd assume clock would do it, but that never seemed to work for me? I tend to be modular first, so prefer clocking from there usually. (so I'm probably just clocking both from my master clock I'd imagine, but clocking from the subharmonicon should work just fine). The volume levels from the sub37 vs modular are a little different, so I'm either running the sub37 line out into the strymon AA1, or the instruo Vinca (which is an angry little vca, with a tonne of gain). If you're running into a decent mixer, that's probably not a massive concern. Hope that helps. Midi is probably the right answer, but I literally have no idea when it comes to that I'm afraid
My subsequent37 is out on loan at the moment, but should be back later this week. Basically the subsequent can only accept CV inputs, so on your side panel you have 4 14" jacks. You can run signals from your DFAM into any of these jacks (but you'll need 3.5mm to 1/4" mono patch cables to do so!). Starting super simple without any menu diving to start with, you could do something like this: 1. Patch the trigger output of the dfam (bottom left) into the Gate input of the subsequent. Start the dfam playing, and it should start playing a note on the clock. 2. Patch the pitch output of the dfam (bottom right) into the CV pitch control of the subsequent, and now the sub will follow the pitch set on the dfam. 3. Feel free to play around with patching any of the fun dfam outputs (e.g. one of the 3 envelopes, or the velocity output) into either the filter or volume inputs. That's the basic operation out of the box. However, things start to get a little interesting when you start menu diving. You can change the assignments of those 4 inputs to map to different controls on the subsequent, however each input can only be assigned to a certain set of controls (e.g. you can't assign the gate input to control pitch, and you can't assign the pitch input to be a clock input). In this video, I'm running a clock from my modular (e.g. your trigger output on the dfam) into the gate input on the subsequent. In the menu I changed the gate input to "arp/sequencer advance" (if memory serves me correct). This means that if I hit play on the arp or sequencer, it will now be in time with the dfam. Hope that helps!
It's possible, but it's not an enjoyable experience, Which is why my sub 37 doesn't get as much love as it should. You can configure the gate CV input (but only the gate CV input port) on the sub37 to arp sequence advance (can't remember the exact name right now, will check later). That took a while to figure out. You're not looking for a sensible input name like 'clock input'. So the only way to clock the sub37 from my modular is that way around. If you have a subsequent 37 CV, you should be able to assign a clock to one of the 4 output CVs and control the modular from the sub 37 (I can't do that though). In theory I could probably use midi to sync the Mother32 from the sub37, and clock the modular by the mother. I'd be a bit to scared of relying on the mother 32 assignable output as the main clock for the modular though, which is why I haven't tried doing that. No midi on the dfam, so the dfam out trigger, would need to clock arp sequence advance on the sub37.
Thought you'd be running some smooth solo notes on the 37 with some manual cutoff flavours added, along with a few glide adjustments while tapering LFO rate from fast to zero as the glide finishes to the next note 🤔... Arps are nice but get old quickly imo.
Perfect for slithering into that second bottle of red wine...this is magnificent Rob.
👌🏾
Takes me right back to happy days in the 90s
This is amazing!
This sounds so good. Moog for the win!
Yup. The sub37 filter is magical. It really is. I've yet to find anything in a modular (or semi-modular) that comes close.
If it wasn't such a pita to use with modular gear, I'd use it in every video. Wish I'd bought the CV version, but you know, captain hindsight will always be there at some point with any purchase :/
Thanks for sharing your performance. I can dig it. I was really curious why there seem to be no videos showing the Sub37 utilizing the DFAM for the drum/bass. Seems like they could really fill out a whole moog ensemble together.
Mainly because that was the first time I managed to get the sub37 to play nicely with my modular :)
Then some gigs got in the way, so haven't had another chance to hook them since this video was taken...
Great Jam man, i recently purchased the subsequent 37 and already have a subharmonicon - im interested in how you connected them together and which one was controlling what? Fairly new to pairing hardware together so the information would be much appreciated! Thank you and will definitely subscribe
So, if I remember correctly, I'm likely to be clocking the sub37 from the modular (about the only way that works AFAIK - not a midi kind of guy myself, although I'm sure that would probably be an option).
Iirc, you can run the clock out from the subharmonicon into the gate input jack on the sub37 (but only that jack). You need to do some menu diving, but you can set that input to 'sequence advance', or something along those lines (possibly arp advance?). You'd assume clock would do it, but that never seemed to work for me?
I tend to be modular first, so prefer clocking from there usually. (so I'm probably just clocking both from my master clock I'd imagine, but clocking from the subharmonicon should work just fine).
The volume levels from the sub37 vs modular are a little different, so I'm either running the sub37 line out into the strymon AA1, or the instruo Vinca (which is an angry little vca, with a tonne of gain). If you're running into a decent mixer, that's probably not a massive concern.
Hope that helps. Midi is probably the right answer, but I literally have no idea when it comes to that I'm afraid
Any tips on connecting dfam to Subsequent? I read your other comments about it but I am a bit confused because I am a beginner in hardware synths
My subsequent37 is out on loan at the moment, but should be back later this week. Basically the subsequent can only accept CV inputs, so on your side panel you have 4 14" jacks. You can run signals from your DFAM into any of these jacks (but you'll need 3.5mm to 1/4" mono patch cables to do so!). Starting super simple without any menu diving to start with, you could do something like this:
1. Patch the trigger output of the dfam (bottom left) into the Gate input of the subsequent. Start the dfam playing, and it should start playing a note on the clock.
2. Patch the pitch output of the dfam (bottom right) into the CV pitch control of the subsequent, and now the sub will follow the pitch set on the dfam.
3. Feel free to play around with patching any of the fun dfam outputs (e.g. one of the 3 envelopes, or the velocity output) into either the filter or volume inputs.
That's the basic operation out of the box. However, things start to get a little interesting when you start menu diving. You can change the assignments of those 4 inputs to map to different controls on the subsequent, however each input can only be assigned to a certain set of controls (e.g. you can't assign the gate input to control pitch, and you can't assign the pitch input to be a clock input).
In this video, I'm running a clock from my modular (e.g. your trigger output on the dfam) into the gate input on the subsequent. In the menu I changed the gate input to "arp/sequencer advance" (if memory serves me correct). This means that if I hit play on the arp or sequencer, it will now be in time with the dfam.
Hope that helps!
How hard is the dfam and sub 37 to sync up?
It's possible, but it's not an enjoyable experience, Which is why my sub 37 doesn't get as much love as it should. You can configure the gate CV input (but only the gate CV input port) on the sub37 to arp sequence advance (can't remember the exact name right now, will check later). That took a while to figure out. You're not looking for a sensible input name like 'clock input'.
So the only way to clock the sub37 from my modular is that way around.
If you have a subsequent 37 CV, you should be able to assign a clock to one of the 4 output CVs and control the modular from the sub 37 (I can't do that though).
In theory I could probably use midi to sync the Mother32 from the sub37, and clock the modular by the mother. I'd be a bit to scared of relying on the mother 32 assignable output as the main clock for the modular though, which is why I haven't tried doing that.
No midi on the dfam, so the dfam out trigger, would need to clock arp sequence advance on the sub37.
Thought you'd be running some smooth solo notes on the 37 with some manual cutoff flavours added, along with a few glide adjustments while tapering LFO rate from fast to zero as the glide finishes to the next note 🤔... Arps are nice but get old quickly imo.