Completely agreed. Its incredible. I already have one Subharm album on my channel, hopefully I can get the guy to do another one soon. He keeps talking about it ;)
It is 100% worth the effort in my opinion. Ive been using this synth since it came out. It can be time consuming and complex ( and can get messy,) but, it has an amazing sound, and does things to sub frequencies no other synths do, also it has intuitive sequencers. I wanted something like this, but for percussion. I have my eye on the perkons, and already have some samples from it. Please do more hardware videos 🙂
Yeah I am having a lot of fun with it too, but very time consuming ! For me it's always refreshing as I use mostly Ableton and this synth is a fresh approach to create synth/melody
Totally agree. It can be a beast at first. For me, it has been best to learn some basics and then experiment abit. The experimentation leads me to what I want to learn more about and the cycle continues. Love the machine.
Great tips. Agreed this is VERY hard to get pleasing sounds with all the different oscillators and pitch options in the 2 different sequences. But keeping it very simple and slowly tweaking is the best approach
A very understandable video. The best I've viewed so far in the last 3 days. I was like you on the fence and I don't have any Moog gear right now. In the past I've owned a little fatty and sub fatty. I've been delving more and more into self generative patterns. I've wanted a Moog again and looking at the hydra synth and Cobalt8 synths. I feel the Subharmonicon suits my needs the best and can be a staple in my arsenal. Thank you so much for sharing.
looks complex but worth persevering with, especially with good delay an reverb fx, i've seen some great drone type suff done with it. been watching many video's of it as thinking of getting one myself. looks great. Love your channel, cheers man.👍
well it really take time to get something but the experimentation journey and result are usually worth it, plus it's really something unique... Cheers !
Top tip: If you send midi CC 113 to the SubH, value 0-63 is OR & 65-127 is XOR logic. The XOR is most pleasing to my ears. I clock mine with a Beatstep Pro and have a toggle switch set up to switch between the two states. Fun vid man, peace ✌️
@@grahamkracker456 IIRC it affects the behaviour when two rhythm generators send a pulse at the same time. The normal behaviour is that when two rhythm generators trigger at the same time - or "clash" - a pulse is sent. In the hidden mode, when two or more rhythm generators clash, no pulse is sent. This has the effect of "hole punching" odd but logical holes in the sequences.
@@RJ1Jreally liked to get lost with it, unfortunately I never couldnt really find the time for it, it's a machine that is great but need a bit of time until you get where you want...
you inspired me to try more things with the patch bay. just started to control vco1 sub with vco 2 (suqare). To my understanding vco2 can then be used as lfo (need to pitch vco2 and vco2sub1 down). A new sound universe. looking forward to my sq1 ;)
thanks, for the subH I don't really have idea, as it's a complex machine and most of the tips/way of using it are very specific to a certain track so there is not much to learn about. DFAM yes I will do one next year probably ;)
👍 great video, I especially like your summary at the end. This is also my personal experience with the Subharmonicon, I additionally recommend a good reverb (just a simple one, not microcosm !!!) to get rid of the higher harmonics which may sound harsh.
How do you manage to tune, or know which key are you in, when using with other synths, or even multiple oscillators within subh itself (like at 16:42 you mention it's in C, are you figuring it out by ear)?
you could but detuning all the oscillator but I wouldn't use this, you can find other synth that are easier to make reese bass. Any synth that have unison or supersaw
hey pal - i like diva and would love a synth like the one in the video with presets basically one of those 2 synths would be my ideal synth - any options out there? thanks
Great Video! Need to have one myself. Does the polyryhtmic output to an external sequencer also work with Beatstep pro? Or does the beatstep clock-in accept stable metronome ppqn clocks only. I would like to use its quantise option and much more important transpose the whole sequence on the Fly.
I don't know , to be honest I am not even sure I really understood what you want to do. for very technical question like this, sopmetime is better to ask to the customer support
I wanted to advance the steps on the beatstep pro following the same Rythm as the SubH. Since I bought a SubH and I tried out I can report: it doesnt seem to work/ i cannot figure it out. I read i will need an analog sequencer like 0-ctrl or maybe sq1 that can handle rythmic clock. Thx for the reply.
I kept all except the mother 32 , because already have the sub37 and even though the 32 sounds more raw/rough than the creamy 37, still wasn't using it much. But would have kept it if I didn't have the sub37 already
@@dontcallmejon yeah like to make chord with the oscilator, or to have more slow random note/chord playing here and there, the sequencer style give weird syncopation that I feel suit better more like deep/ambient style than pure raw/hypnotic techno... in both case it's very tricky to have something good musically because of the tunning but when you find something usually it's pretty good and original... I sold mine but I regret it now and will buy it again later this year....
Eurorack will always be superior because you can customise it to your need and taste, but sometimes limitation is good too, or the specific character of a synth
to be fair I am on the edge to sell it, it sounds great and its a great piece of kit but I feel like everything i can do with the m32 i can do it with the SubH or Dfam (except the glide). I want to give it a last chance and see, as I really like the sound, so i will see
@@audioreakt agree, for me it's hard to adapt m32 with techno jam, I don’t understand what sound is better for him to perform in a techno track, I'm using it only for sub bass, otherwise it will sound too bright and overlap the rest of the sounds
Nice video. Thanks for the tips. Question though. For my subharmonicon it wont drone when i turn off the envelope? How are you exactly sequencing it within ableton? I use ableton as well, but when i turn off the envelope generator and press play I am unable to generate any sound. Any advice would be greatly appreciated
@@audioreakt ah okay yea i do that sometimes. Wasnt sure if the way you sorta utlilized it produced a subtle different effect with the drone. Thank you though
did you use any rack effect on it a part of the classic R and D? im patching it exactly as you but my sound is much lower in timbre than yours... Thanks for all the knowledge Master
This video has blown my mind multiple times! Thanks for spilling the beans, kudos for the feature-packed ideas!!
my pleasure !
The SubH is truly unique and I think will be a Moog classic. Great to watch you working with it helps us all to get to know this amazing synth.
for sure, it's really unique synth, love mine ! the best synth to get lost [which can be good or bad according to which way you see it haha]
Completely agreed. Its incredible. I already have one Subharm album on my channel, hopefully I can get the guy to do another one soon. He keeps talking about it ;)
Pitch sequencer tip was gold
thanks !
It is 100% worth the effort in my opinion. Ive been using this synth since it came out. It can be time consuming and complex ( and can get messy,) but, it has an amazing sound, and does things to sub frequencies no other synths do, also it has intuitive sequencers. I wanted something like this, but for percussion. I have my eye on the perkons, and already have some samples from it. Please do more hardware videos 🙂
Yeah I am having a lot of fun with it too, but very time consuming ! For me it's always refreshing as I use mostly Ableton and this synth is a fresh approach to create synth/melody
Perkons is the new Analog Rytm
Totally agree. It can be a beast at first. For me, it has been best to learn some basics and then experiment abit. The experimentation leads me to what I want to learn more about and the cycle continues. Love the machine.
@@audioreakthow do you conect the subharmonicon with ableton?
Great tips. Agreed this is VERY hard to get pleasing sounds with all the different oscillators and pitch options in the 2 different sequences. But keeping it very simple and slowly tweaking is the best approach
Yes true
Using the pitch quantize can also help, but the approach in this video is great. Start at one pitch and with few oscillators.
Thanks for this! One of the very few videos that really let the Subharmonicon shine.
Thanks , although I am not gonna lie it's hard to make it shine as it's two complex idea in one box, but still enjoy playing with it so much.
Great tips! Definitely learned some new ideas from this. Thanks for sharing...
thanks, happy to hear that !
A very understandable video. The best I've viewed so far in the last 3 days. I was like you on the fence and I don't have any Moog gear right now. In the past I've owned a little fatty and sub fatty. I've been delving more and more into self generative patterns. I've wanted a Moog again and looking at the hydra synth and Cobalt8 synths. I feel the Subharmonicon suits my needs the best and can be a staple in my arsenal. Thank you so much for sharing.
thanks, keep in mind its takes time to come with great sequence but it's a unique piece of gear for sure.
Thanks for the tips & tricks, great video.
my pleasure !
looks complex but worth persevering with, especially with good delay an reverb fx, i've seen some great drone type suff done with it. been watching many video's of it as thinking of getting one myself. looks great. Love your channel, cheers man.👍
well it really take time to get something but the experimentation journey and result are usually worth it, plus it's really something unique... Cheers !
13:44 this sounds so beautiful! Can't believe it's coming from only one synthesizer.
they are some effects too apply
Very helpful and inspiring, thank you for sharing your discoveries. 😊
you're welcome !
Great video, most illuminating, thanks!
you're welcorm !"
Top tip: If you send midi CC 113 to the SubH, value 0-63 is OR & 65-127 is XOR logic. The XOR is most pleasing to my ears. I clock mine with a Beatstep Pro and have a toggle switch set up to switch between the two states. Fun vid man, peace ✌️
That's sounds interesting, I will try for sure, thanks for the tips !
Can you explain in simpler terms what this means/does?
@@grahamkracker456 IIRC it affects the behaviour when two rhythm generators send a pulse at the same time. The normal behaviour is that when two rhythm generators trigger at the same time - or "clash" - a pulse is sent.
In the hidden mode, when two or more rhythm generators clash, no pulse is sent. This has the effect of "hole punching" odd but logical holes in the sequences.
Can you finally sequence notes via midi now with the update? Use one's own sequencer?
I don't know tbh, I sold it last summer...
@@audioreaktOk. Not a great advert for it considering your enthusiasm in this video.
@@RJ1Jreally liked to get lost with it, unfortunately I never couldnt really find the time for it, it's a machine that is great but need a bit of time until you get where you want...
@@audioreakt That is what many people say. The filter was a deal breaker for me anyway, going for an SH-01A instead.
you inspired me to try more things with the patch bay. just started to control vco1 sub with vco 2 (suqare). To my understanding vco2 can then be used as lfo (need to pitch vco2 and vco2sub1 down). A new sound universe. looking forward to my sq1 ;)
yeah possibility are endless, let alone if you add a sq-1 haha
can you do more videos on the subharmonic and dfam very interesting!
thanks, for the subH I don't really have idea, as it's a complex machine and most of the tips/way of using it are very specific to a certain track so there is not much to learn about. DFAM yes I will do one next year probably ;)
Thanks for a really informative video. I'll try those tips for myself.
You're welcome, glad you liked them !
Wow, i enjoyed this video so much! Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it! cheers!
Great tips ! Merci beacoup
Avec plaisir, et merci !
Thanxs for this good explenation ✌💯💣
You're welcome 🙏
👍 great video, I especially like your summary at the end. This is also my personal experience with the Subharmonicon, I additionally recommend a good reverb (just a simple one, not microcosm !!!) to get rid of the higher harmonics which may sound harsh.
Thanks you, yeah usually with moog you don't need much haha
loving that pad, very aphex twin sounding
cheers !
How do you manage to tune, or know which key are you in, when using with other synths, or even multiple oscillators within subh itself (like at 16:42 you mention it's in C, are you figuring it out by ear)?
no I use ableton tuner or spectrum to figure it out, but I reckon it's really hard to have everything in tune
Excellent Tutorial 👌
Thank you! Cheers!
Excellent! Really inspiring. Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it! cheers
Thanks you and nice job.
Thanks 🙏
What basic drum machine are you using to add the bass drum to these sequences?
These are from my sample pack, sequenced with Ableton
Good man exemple thanks for you vidéo
Thanks for watching!
7:45 which machine is the beat playing from?
The beat is from ableton
Great video, is it possible to use this synth for mid basses? Or reese basses?
you could but detuning all the oscillator but I wouldn't use this, you can find other synth that are easier to make reese bass. Any synth that have unison or supersaw
That bass at 9:28 is powerful! Wow! Make sure you have good headphones to hear it.
Thanks 🙏
We're all sounds on this video made using a subharmonicon and a dfam?
all the sound are from the subharmonicon with some delay/reverb from ableton
which track of you is that in the beginning? thx
It's an unreleased track...
@@audioreakt release it, please!
@@Berciq yes I will, but don't know when !
Whatever you do to incorporate the SubH, it should be the first thing programmed! I love the tf out mine!
I loved mine too but sold it as wasnt using that much but to be honest I kind of regret it a bit I think...
hey pal - i like diva and would love a synth like the one in the video with presets basically one of those 2 synths would be my ideal synth - any options out there? thanks
the subharmonicon is quite an unique synth because of his sequencer and sub oscillator. Diva is a great synth for that moog sound though !
Wich sequencer and reverb did you use? Can you use a sequencer with only midi in/ out? (without CV in/ out)? I'm new to this but it looks interesting.
reverb was ableton reverb nad the sequencer was internal sequencer and at the end of the video I use the Moog Dfam and Korg SQ-1 to sequence as well
Great Video! Need to have one myself. Does the polyryhtmic output to an external sequencer also work with Beatstep pro? Or does the beatstep clock-in accept stable metronome ppqn clocks only. I would like to use its quantise option and much more important transpose the whole sequence on the Fly.
I don't know , to be honest I am not even sure I really understood what you want to do. for very technical question like this, sopmetime is better to ask to the customer support
I wanted to advance the steps on the beatstep pro following the same Rythm as the SubH. Since I bought a SubH and I tried out I can report: it doesnt seem to work/ i cannot figure it out. I read i will need an analog sequencer like 0-ctrl or maybe sq1 that can handle rythmic clock. Thx for the reply.
I dont have that Synth but enjoy the Video alot!
thanks mate, always some tips that can apply to any synth anyway ;)
How do you feel about the sound studio 3 now after a year? Did you keep it? Great details here as well.
I kept all except the mother 32 , because already have the sub37 and even though the 32 sounds more raw/rough than the creamy 37, still wasn't using it much. But would have kept it if I didn't have the sub37 already
The drums @23:56 are they from one of your packs?
I can't find the original project, Ithey are for sure but probably layer and with effects...
This thing is a techno beast, I gotta pick one up.
to be honest more of an ambient beast than techno but still cvan be great for techno
@@audioreakt yes because of the two sequencers id imagine.
@@dontcallmejon yeah like to make chord with the oscilator, or to have more slow random note/chord playing here and there, the sequencer style give weird syncopation that I feel suit better more like deep/ambient style than pure raw/hypnotic techno... in both case it's very tricky to have something good musically because of the tunning but when you find something usually it's pretty good and original... I sold mine but I regret it now and will buy it again later this year....
Had one but didn't really like the lack of adsr . Gone eurorack and prefer it to the subharmonicon.
Yeah I get what you mean, it's definitely not for everybody...
Eurorack will always be superior because you can customise it to your need and taste, but sometimes limitation is good too, or the specific character of a synth
Love the idea that eurorack is the alternative to the subharmonicon. Subharmonicon XOR eurorack.
can you help me with the analog four.
I would love too but I don't own it ...
could you please show how to make something great on mother-32 in techno style? would be awesome!
to be fair I am on the edge to sell it, it sounds great and its a great piece of kit but I feel like everything i can do with the m32 i can do it with the SubH or Dfam (except the glide). I want to give it a last chance and see, as I really like the sound, so i will see
@@audioreakt agree, for me it's hard to adapt m32 with techno jam, I don’t understand what sound is better for him to perform in a techno track, I'm using it only for sub bass, otherwise it will sound too bright and overlap the rest of the sounds
@@Links... yeah that's teh things with moog it's sound great but take all the place hahah
Friend, I really like your videos, it would be wonderful if there were subtitles in Spanish, I don't know English. Greetings✨
Sorry I don't speak spanish
Great video. Love the drums as well. What drum machine are you using?
it was from ableton using my samples
Great, do the dfam review and tutorial
😅, first I didn't wanted to do because there are so much video already, but I feel they will never be enough DFAM video, so I might do one this year 😉
Nice video. Thanks for the tips. Question though. For my subharmonicon it wont drone when i turn off the envelope? How are you exactly sequencing it within ableton? I use ableton as well, but when i turn off the envelope generator and press play I am unable to generate any sound. Any advice would be greatly appreciated
thanks, if you hold EG until it blink it should drone without the need to be externaly trigger
@@audioreakt ah okay yea i do that sometimes. Wasnt sure if the way you sorta utlilized it produced a subtle different effect with the drone. Thank you though
super !!
Thank you! Cheers!
did you use any rack effect on it a part of the classic R and D? im patching it exactly as you but my sound is much lower in timbre than yours...
Thanks for all the knowledge Master
probably a bit of saturator and reverb, check this rack : th-cam.com/video/gg5YJyh8N-Q/w-d-xo.html
You built your tier 3 rack in the same order as me
Haha really? Although I got rid of my mother 32 since then
@7:46 mama miiiiia 🤌
thanks !
Thank you for that video. What drum machine are you using btw?
its was my drums from my samples pack loaded into a ableton drum rack...
Basically add loads of reverb.
I am Mexican and I am using the translator
nice
Yes, It would be cool since I almost couldn't understand the tutorial
oh nooo there goes more of my money damn
On the noteside, I sold it since then as even though I think k it's an incredible price of gear, I wasn't using it that much
@20:21 tolkachev
probably indirectly inspired for sure haha !
3:40 Gesaffelstein
really ? which track ?
Stop tempting me. I don't have enough room for the hardware I already own. I cannot buy yet more.
I am in the same situation haha ! either I buy synth shelves or I stop buying haha !
(try watching this in 1.25x - it's gnashing)
BEHRINGER IS BETTER DESIGNED THAN ORIGINAL - BIGGER TUNE KNOBS ON SEQUENCERS...
Never had both to compared, I sold my subh since then but regretting a bit sometimes
its a beast of burden like a cat
Kind of 😅🤣
What? Can't hear you, but audio is your business?