Nice!! I recorded a live jazz session one night and I only used 4 mics on the kick which was a d112,57 and NT5 overheads on a small kit. With parallel compression it made the overheads pick up the toms a bit with a dox 160 compressor (Waves) on the overhead channels.
Sounds fantastic! It's amazing what you can do, even without super expensive mics. What's that ribbon mic kit you were talking about? I've considered buying a Royer R10 to keep around. I've got an AEA R92 I just started playing with.
Thanks! the ribbon mic kit is a Bumblebee RM-6 DIY Ribbon Mic kit i got it off of the site DIYrecordingequipment.com I'll throw a link in the description to the kit. I love the mic it has been great especially since I can't afford a Royer 121. I have heard great things about the R10 I was going to pick up one as well. I have also heard awesome things about the AEA stuff!
I'm recording on a small room and definitely gonna try the blankets!!! Also a drummer and started recording in 2013. I use two linked interfaces cuz my drumset is a little big 🤣🤣🤣 i use 16 inputs (5 toms, 2 on snare, 2 on kick, side snare, 2 overs, 2 rooms and 2 more for a SPD 20) I Raley use the 16, but is fun to go from a simple set up to a really big one. Greetings from México!!!
That’s awesome! Yeah try the blankets they should help absorb some high frequencies that bounce around. Sounds like you have a great setup there keep on recording!!
i am actually in desperate need of help! i am about to have a much bigger drumset and need a bigger interface for sure! how do you link audio interfaces together?
@@kalebbennett5596 I work with Mac and it is pretty simple unless you work with Windows I have no idea🤣🤣🤣. If working with Mac go to MIDI setup (make sure both interfaces are pluggedin and recignized by the computer) select on the left menu "aggregate device" select from the menu the interfaces you'll link and that's it. If you need more information send me a msg I'd be happy to help
Cool video. GREAT drum sound. I have a 4pc kit with 12 mics. Kick , Snare , R tom , F tom , 2 overheads , hat , ride , 8" Subkick in front of kick , 6" subkick under F tom. 2 room mics. Built the subkicks myself.
Thanks! Yeah it is definitely a journey finding where all the mics should go so they are all sitting nicely in phase. I almost always have to flip something to get it to be right though. The snare bottom is always flipped and usually the overheads as well but every setup is different and you always gotta check. It can change a lot too it really depends on how the drummer sets their stuff up.
Yeah I know right? the placement definitely makes a big difference and I did do some eq, compression and parallel tape saturation in pro tools to really get it lively but yeah it can totally work in a mix.
Thanks! I definitely will be making a drum mixing video where I go into detail and actually mix the drums completely. The drums in this video were honestly pretty raw just a little drum bus compression with a distressor.
It depends on your budget but a great way to start if you are on a tight budget is to get a simple drum mic kit with a pair of overheads and some clip on mics for the drums. Lots of brands make them including shure, audix, Samson. Then you can start upgrading each mic as you get some money and as you learn more about what kind of mics you want for your drums. Another great way to start if you have a little more money is to just buy a couple shure sm57s for the snare and Toms and then get a kick drum mic like An AKG D112 and a pair of cheaper small diaphragm condenser mics as overheads check out Lewitt mics the lct 40 are very affordable. A good kick drum mic like the d112 is a great investment and an audix d6 or a sure beta 52 will also do the job for kick drum.
Sounds fantastic! What mixer are you guys using, out of curiosity? Is it going through some converters and then into the Mac, or is it USB/Thunderbolt?
Yeah so the signal chain has a few different things going on. I have some outboard gear I have collected over the years so there is a little happening before pro tools. The kick IN and Snare Top mics are going through these DIYRE CP5 mic preamps that I built from a kit that also have some tape saturation modules in them and they are also getting a little bit of Trident 80B eq and compression from a hhb radius 30 tube compressor. Everything else is running through the mic preamps on my Ramsa WR-S4424 mixer. A few other mics are hitting some more outboard EQ like a warm audio eqp-wa and some dbx160a compression before ultimately going to my UA Apollo 16 which is my thunderbolt interface/converters. I will probably do a more elaborate video on my personal drum recording setup and how I use the UA console to emulate having a tape machine as another trick to make your drums sound even better before mixing.
@@SoundSplitterStudio Wow, that is an impressive signal chain on the way in, all I have so far are my Scarlett 18i20, an Alesis 3630, and a Digitech MV5. I don't use any outboard on the way in, but I have the I/O to constantly have my outboard powered up and connected to my interface so I can just route the ins and outs I need in my DAW to send and receive signal from the outboard. I have a good collection of plugins, but lately I've been feeling uninspired and driven to start collecting outboard so I started with two pieces that I have used before and have an emotional attachment to lol. I intend to eventually add a tube comp, maybe a channel strip or two, some external pres with some attitude and colour, and maybe to grow my mic locker (just rocking an AT2020 and an SM57 right now)
@@mgmg116 Nice yeah that is a great start! If you are going to get more outboard gear I would definitely recommend investing in stuff that has some attitude or color to it. Outboard Eqs that are very colorful are fun to track and mix with. Anything that has some character you can't get out of a plugin would be a good investment, like some tube gear and things that saturate nicely in the analog world.
Awesome sounds, great drummer, this is one of the best videos I've seen on the matter on youtube, helps to have decent music. It's been a trick of mine of years to mix up drums with a one mic recording for like one verse or something, then when the heavy chorus comes in go to the full mic setup, rather than having a one dimensional sound all the way through, with this recording I would definitely use the ribbon mic from 12:29 - 12:50 then cut to 20:01 for the full sound....
Yes! I totally agree if this were a full song and I was mixing it that would be a great way to move the song along into a new part and make the heavier section feel bigger and more 3 dimensional.
Haha thanks to be honest to save time this was just my Gibson Les Paul Classic DI into the Neural dsp Soldano SLO-100 plug in. I will be putting up another video on micing guitar cabs soon though with some tips on mic placement and stuff.
It definitely depends on the tune and the project but a lot of records made with a big budget will spend time tuning the drum kit to each song and it can definitely help make the song sound and feel more musical with the drums acting as a melodic instrument as well. But i know a lot of drummers who found a tuning they like for their kit and they keep it at that for the most part. It definitely helps to be conscious of the tuning and make sure the notes of the bass guitar aren't directly clashing with the floor tom you are riding on but I am from the school of don't overthink it, if it sounds good move on if it doesn't find out what is wrong and how to fix or change it and go from there. Dan can probably add to this, @DanNazarioDEP Do you have anything else to add?
Hey I think he nailed it pretty well. Basically it's all preference and as a drummer we don't really like to hear that because it opens up to endless possibilities, more work and can seem overwhelming. However, I think the snare is the most important. You want to tune it generally to a pitch that doesn't clash with the key of the song but also somewhere to where you get good rebound and it actually feels good to play. You don't want to over tighten or it'll get "choked" out- like playing on the top of a table. It doesn't particularly have to be perfect to a note either because it being hit will detune it overtime. I would also recommend checking out the channel @soundslikeadrum. They have amazing content on all of these subject areas and they are my go to place if I ever have questions that need answering. But to answer your question, I think tuning for the song is not necessary in most cases. But tuning your drums so all of them "sing" together in harmony is more important for better sounding recorded drum tracks. Hope this helps!
The intervals between the drums themselves, as well as the intervals between the heads of each drum are the most important. As far as intervals for heads, the common intervals are 4ths, 3rds and minor 3rds apart. In terms of intervals between the drums themselves I usually tune my toms either a 3rd or 4th apart. But all of these are the "common" recommendations but may be a good starting to point to help develop your own preference.
love Sound Splitter! We've recorded a bunch of songs there and highly recommend working with Justin & Dan
My ear liked 4 and less mics with the more softer part of the song and then the louder parts with the 6-12 mic set up.
great drum sounds, especially with the 1 mic settings
Nice!! I recorded a live jazz session one night and I only used 4 mics on the kick which was a d112,57 and NT5 overheads on a small kit. With parallel compression it made the overheads pick up the toms a bit with a dox 160 compressor (Waves) on the overhead channels.
I dig this riff..... this video is sick!!!
Sounds fantastic! It's amazing what you can do, even without super expensive mics. What's that ribbon mic kit you were talking about? I've considered buying a Royer R10 to keep around. I've got an AEA R92 I just started playing with.
Thanks! the ribbon mic kit is a Bumblebee RM-6 DIY Ribbon Mic kit i got it off of the site DIYrecordingequipment.com I'll throw a link in the description to the kit. I love the mic it has been great especially since I can't afford a Royer 121. I have heard great things about the R10 I was going to pick up one as well. I have also heard awesome things about the AEA stuff!
Nice! I'll have to check that out. And hey, I'm a Delco resident myself. Rock on!
These dudes are great! 👍🏼👍🏼💪🏻. Plaze app brought me here.
Sounds phenomenal
The song had a old school Weezer feel to it lol. Great video btw
This was rad
Thanks!!
Thanks for the video!
Spectacular sound guys, and the guitar tones were amazing as well. I loved the song too, pretty grungy, very 90s!
I'm recording on a small room and definitely gonna try the blankets!!! Also a drummer and started recording in 2013. I use two linked interfaces cuz my drumset is a little big 🤣🤣🤣 i use 16 inputs (5 toms, 2 on snare, 2 on kick, side snare, 2 overs, 2 rooms and 2 more for a SPD 20) I Raley use the 16, but is fun to go from a simple set up to a really big one. Greetings from México!!!
That’s awesome! Yeah try the blankets they should help absorb some high frequencies that bounce around. Sounds like you have a great setup there keep on recording!!
i am actually in desperate need of help! i am about to have a much bigger drumset and need a bigger interface for sure! how do you link audio interfaces together?
@@kalebbennett5596 I work with Mac and it is pretty simple unless you work with Windows I have no idea🤣🤣🤣. If working with Mac go to MIDI setup (make sure both interfaces are pluggedin and recignized by the computer) select on the left menu "aggregate device" select from the menu the interfaces you'll link and that's it. If you need more information send me a msg I'd be happy to help
@@kalebbennett5596 still need help???
@@bendertheoffenderbending9370 I'm in more need of help. Thank you so much for replying! Sorry for late response
Cool video. GREAT drum sound. I have a 4pc kit with 12 mics. Kick , Snare , R tom , F tom , 2 overheads , hat , ride , 8" Subkick in front of kick , 6" subkick under F tom. 2 room mics. Built the subkicks myself.
May I please sample a hi hat around 11:37? Great video! Super helpful.
Absolutely! Glad you like the video
Wow!! Impressive that you got 12 mics at once sounding that good, so tough with phase stuff! The room mics sound fantastic, great job guys
Thanks! Yeah it is definitely a journey finding where all the mics should go so they are all sitting nicely in phase. I almost always have to flip something to get it to be right though. The snare bottom is always flipped and usually the overheads as well but every setup is different and you always gotta check. It can change a lot too it really depends on how the drummer sets their stuff up.
Man, this sounds fantastic. Thanks so much for this!
Brilliant setup. Might be a lengthy process to mix, but I'm sure it's worth it.
Sounds fab
i just cant believe that 1 mic only can work so well. great job
Yeah I know right? the placement definitely makes a big difference and I did do some eq, compression and parallel tape saturation in pro tools to really get it lively but yeah it can totally work in a mix.
@@SoundSplitterStudio that´s still crazy! lol
Sounds great! Thanks for this inspiring video
Wooowww this mix is great! I'd love to see more mixing videos from you guys! I've been working hard to try and get a sound like this
Thanks! I definitely will be making a drum mixing video where I go into detail and actually mix the drums completely. The drums in this video were honestly pretty raw just a little drum bus compression with a distressor.
Thanks 👌👍
Thanks boys!
Great stuff here yall!
Interesting how the hats pick up do well.. they seem pretty loud compared to mine and seem to require micing. Great material and compatible info !
Sound good! What Crash and Ride Cymbal do you use?
23" Zildjian K Sweet Ride and an 18" ZIldjian K Custom Dark Crash.
This sounds really good. You did a great job! I’ve got no idea how you would make a drum set but you did good.
Room mics are EVERYTHING fuuuuuuuck🤩
Nice vid, guys! Excellent tips.
Nice stuff guys! 👌🏻
Soon I’m going to start getting mics for my drum set any recommendations!? Great content btw
It depends on your budget but a great way to start if you are on a tight budget is to get a simple drum mic kit with a pair of overheads and some clip on mics for the drums. Lots of brands make them including shure, audix, Samson. Then you can start upgrading each mic as you get some money and as you learn more about what kind of mics you want for your drums. Another great way to start if you have a little more money is to just buy a couple shure sm57s for the snare and Toms and then get a kick drum mic like An AKG D112 and a pair of cheaper small diaphragm condenser mics as overheads check out Lewitt mics the lct 40 are very affordable. A good kick drum mic like the d112 is a great investment and an audix d6 or a sure beta 52 will also do the job for kick drum.
@@SoundSplitterStudio thanks so much man !
excellent. name of the song?
It is just a riff I made up for this video
Sounds fantastic! What mixer are you guys using, out of curiosity? Is it going through some converters and then into the Mac, or is it USB/Thunderbolt?
Yeah so the signal chain has a few different things going on. I have some outboard gear I have collected over the years so there is a little happening before pro tools. The kick IN and Snare Top mics are going through these DIYRE CP5 mic preamps that I built from a kit that also have some tape saturation modules in them and they are also getting a little bit of Trident 80B eq and compression from a hhb radius 30 tube compressor. Everything else is running through the mic preamps on my Ramsa WR-S4424 mixer. A few other mics are hitting some more outboard EQ like a warm audio eqp-wa and some dbx160a compression before ultimately going to my UA Apollo 16 which is my thunderbolt interface/converters. I will probably do a more elaborate video on my personal drum recording setup and how I use the UA console to emulate having a tape machine as another trick to make your drums sound even better before mixing.
@@SoundSplitterStudio Wow, that is an impressive signal chain on the way in, all I have so far are my Scarlett 18i20, an Alesis 3630, and a Digitech MV5. I don't use any outboard on the way in, but I have the I/O to constantly have my outboard powered up and connected to my interface so I can just route the ins and outs I need in my DAW to send and receive signal from the outboard.
I have a good collection of plugins, but lately I've been feeling uninspired and driven to start collecting outboard so I started with two pieces that I have used before and have an emotional attachment to lol.
I intend to eventually add a tube comp, maybe a channel strip or two, some external pres with some attitude and colour, and maybe to grow my mic locker (just rocking an AT2020 and an SM57 right now)
@@mgmg116 Nice yeah that is a great start! If you are going to get more outboard gear I would definitely recommend investing in stuff that has some attitude or color to it. Outboard Eqs that are very colorful are fun to track and mix with. Anything that has some character you can't get out of a plugin would be a good investment, like some tube gear and things that saturate nicely in the analog world.
Hey man, such a great video! You get a very cool sound! Do you have a vid for guitars?? (They sound awesome!) Cheers!
Thanks! Not yet but it is in the works
@@SoundSplitterStudio Sounds awesome. I subscribed with the ringing bell on. Cheers!
Awesome sounds, great drummer, this is one of the best videos I've seen on the matter on youtube, helps to have decent music. It's been a trick of mine of years to mix up drums with a one mic recording for like one verse or something, then when the heavy chorus comes in go to the full mic setup, rather than having a one dimensional sound all the way through, with this recording I would definitely use the ribbon mic from 12:29 - 12:50 then cut to 20:01 for the full sound....
thats exactly what i was thinking when the heavy guitars came in at the end!!
Yes! I totally agree if this were a full song and I was mixing it that would be a great way to move the song along into a new part and make the heavier section feel bigger and more 3 dimensional.
That guitar tone is sublime man wht amps and guitars were those??
Haha thanks to be honest to save time this was just my Gibson Les Paul Classic DI into the Neural dsp Soldano SLO-100 plug in. I will be putting up another video on micing guitar cabs soon though with some tips on mic placement and stuff.
@@SoundSplitterStudio im excited to see what else you guys have cookin up as a fellow diy recording in the garage guy
Could someone speak to drum tuning. Do ppl Tune to the song itself each time or just arbitrarily notewise to themselves?
It definitely depends on the tune and the project but a lot of records made with a big budget will spend time tuning the drum kit to each song and it can definitely help make the song sound and feel more musical with the drums acting as a melodic instrument as well. But i know a lot of drummers who found a tuning they like for their kit and they keep it at that for the most part. It definitely helps to be conscious of the tuning and make sure the notes of the bass guitar aren't directly clashing with the floor tom you are riding on but I am from the school of don't overthink it, if it sounds good move on if it doesn't find out what is wrong and how to fix or change it and go from there. Dan can probably add to this, @DanNazarioDEP Do you have anything else to add?
Hey I think he nailed it pretty well. Basically it's all preference and as a drummer we don't really like to hear that because it opens up to endless possibilities, more work and can seem overwhelming. However, I think the snare is the most important. You want to tune it generally to a pitch that doesn't clash with the key of the song but also somewhere to where you get good rebound and it actually feels good to play. You don't want to over tighten or it'll get "choked" out- like playing on the top of a table.
It doesn't particularly have to be perfect to a note either because it being hit will detune it overtime. I would also recommend checking out the channel @soundslikeadrum. They have amazing content on all of these subject areas and they are my go to place if I ever have questions that need answering. But to answer your question, I think tuning for the song is not necessary in most cases. But tuning your drums so all of them "sing" together in harmony is more important for better sounding recorded drum tracks. Hope this helps!
The intervals between the drums themselves, as well as the intervals between the heads of each drum are the most important.
As far as intervals for heads, the common intervals are 4ths, 3rds and minor 3rds apart.
In terms of intervals between the drums themselves I usually tune my toms either a 3rd or 4th apart. But all of these are the "common" recommendations but may be a good starting to point to help develop your own preference.
To me this sounds like: Either use 1 or 12. Those were my two favs honestly.
I'm surprised how good 1 mic sounded, i guess that's what you get from having a properly treated room
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Those guitars also sound killer so you might have to do a video about recording guitars.
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