Psychology of Psychonauts | Cassie's Collection
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- Episode: Psychology of Psychonauts | Cassie's Collection
Good day everyone!
Psychonauts 2 largely follows the story of the original Psychic 6. After the Battle of Grulovia, all were damaged in some form or another. Neither of them being the same.
Hidden inside the Green Needle Gulch are two of these individuals. One has hidden herself away since the event. Becoming a hermit. Isolating herself among her bees. Something inside her changed as a result of the battle. Something that summoned forth a demon from her unconscious to possess her actions. Keeping her a prisoner of her own behaviors.
In this episode of Psychology of Psychonauts, we will explore the world created by Cassie O'Pia. Cassie's Collection.
As always, free discussion is encouraged in the comments!
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It’s wonderful that Raz is voiced by Richard Horvits(Zim) and Raz’s Archetype is voiced by Rosearik Simons(GIR)!
When I heard that I went nuts lol. Grew up on Invader Zim.
Zim and Gir has finally been reunited in a different life
Raz: "Er. . . Is my archetype supposed to be stupid?"
Cassie O'Pia: "It's not stupid; IT'S ADVANCED!"
"I'm gonna sing the doom song now!"
The dynamic duo! Together again.
Your speech about the shadow archetype for the hero really got me thinking about the reflection of Raz with every other major antagonist in this franchise.
Oleander and Raz both had a similar resentment towards their father, and towards themselves as they felt like an outcast. However, where Raz was able to grow, and eventually reconnect with his dad, and feel a sense of belonging, Oleander didn't, and slipped into a deep resentment for those who mocked him.
Both Raz and Loboto were psychic whose families resented their powers, but where as Raz's family learned to accept them and move past the grudge, Loboto's decided to use an ice pick.
For Maligula, I can't think of much other than this is what Raz could become with unchecked power. If anyone has anything else to add here, please do!
Now for the main one, Gristol; Raz learns early on the dangers of irresponsibly altering minds for his own goals, Gristol and in turn Gristol's father, had zero qualms about what they did to Lucy. Even if it wasn't sudden like Raz and Hollis, and more of a slow manipulation, they were still ok in purposefully enabling somebody to become a killer. Something Raz could be if he didn't see the consequences of his actions other than 'suddenly rejecting the prodigy psychic.' I know Gristol's problems are a bit deeper, but it's still a comparison.
I know this stuff was probably obvious, but it's still something I wanted to bring up.
To be fair, Enablers can also buff Censors, which are typically considered a "normal" and "healthy" part of a mental system, so they can actually have positive Enablers.
I mention this throughout the video as well. Enablers alone just facilitate a thing being done. Good or bad. It tends to have a charged connotation to only be negative sadly.
@@GamingUniversityUoG tbh about that I would've kept using enabler, it IS a nuanced term after all. I personally don't believe in removing the nuance from such a term. The fact people do with enabler is honestly disheartening to me, it's not all black, the world is never black and white, only greys.
@@macaylacayton2915 Saying the world is "only grey" is about as dangerous as saying the world is entirely black and white. By saying it, you basically say that only neutral forces exist. That would mean that stuff like love or hate, hot or cold or even morality itself aren't factors in the world. The universe is comprised of Protons, Neutrons and Electrons for a reason. You can get rid of the positive (Protons) or negative (Electrons) in the world any more than the neutrality (Neutrons) without destroying it.
Though, back onto the original topic, I do agree that's it's kind of dumb how people have took neutral words and either positively or negatively charged them, thus taking away from their original meaning. You already gave the "enable" example, so I'll give an example of a neutral word that became positively charged. "Fantastic" used to mean "existing in fantasy" before it became another word for "really, really good", thus stealing some of its meaning away. It's unfortunate that this sort of thing is so common, I'll agree with you there.
That's a thought: The idea that the librarian not only representing a part of her personality, but her coping mechanism as well.
Clever
This video was helpful for me
I’ve always had this weird connection with my different “personalities”
I don’t have DID or anything, just this odd sense of multiple selves
This helps
Same here. I have always been the type to be different people in different situations. My work personality is nothing like my regular self. I was fortunate in my youth. For example in High School I was generally okay with any clique on campus. Despite being a band geek lol. Engaging with the Shapeshifter helps with this.
Further proof that psychonauts is one of if not THE most intelligent series
Dude this one alone has so many moving parts. I love this series.
I was hype asf when I saw this but I was in class so I couldn't watch it at first :( so much care went into making this video and I'm so glad my wait paid off. I love the chapter transitions, they're so lovingly made and it definitely shows!
Ooh bad timing for the release lol. Glad you enjoyed it. Yeah me and Yellowbat put a lot of care into this one. Partially because it is my favorite world but mainly because of how involved it was. The chapter titles went with the library theme.
Bringing up Archetypes, Shadows, and The Collective Unconscious reminds me of another game franchise that deals with these themes. Persona. I'd definitely appreciate a similar series describing the mental palaces and Personas of Persona 4 or 5. Maybe in future.
Oh Please remember to do Bob's Bottles next, it shows how grief can cause the same thing with Cassie but he is also drowning himself to block out reality and how much pain a widower can go through emotionally like agent Sasha 's father.
He said bob’s bottles is next
@@macaylacayton2915 WHOO HOO! Can't wait, his Psychology of Psychonauts has been a big help for my fanfics since they have elements of psychology in it and his videos on the Psychonauts have played a big role in my writing.
Hey I just wanted to thank you for doing these deep dives I have been struggling with my mental health for a long time and your videos help me understand my mental health and behaviors I seriously believe that this series should be used in colleges once again thank you because you have helped me understand myself
This was wonderful, a perfect initial vid to watch, glad my friend introduced me to the channel.
I think that something potentially very interesting got glanced over in this video!
Coming from someone with OSDD-1b, I'm fairly certain that Cassiopeia is showing very notable symptoms of OSDD-1 (Not easily falling under A or B, but in fact both, there's a reason it isn't officially separated anymore!). Her mental state functions in such a way where her outwards personality is affected by the internal system of personas, or, alters that she is using that have a basis in the various different times and ages in her life without any kind of episodes of visible amnesia associated.
From experience, a certain alter having power over the others and even negatively keeping others out is, very possible, but also her narrative of helping her fight her demons is to put her on the path of healing via working together with these various parts of her. What really spoke to me personally was that context of them not really knowing who the 'real' Cassie is, they just know she's in there somewhere and they'll find it out together.
Wait... If Aperception is a filter mechanism and we never see the REAL reality, how can we actually ever see things/people unfiltered? Is there even a way?
Communications and education. The more data we have on a thing or person the better we understand it
@@GamingUniversityUoG Hmm. Good point!
There it is. :)
Can’t wait for the next one next year.
This gives more weight when thinking that the enablers in bobs mind aren't just the enabling from his co-workers, but represents his own alcohol habits hindering his ability to work, thus creating these enablers.
Oh yes his alcoholism is certainly enabling a lot of things. Something I found out while working on this is if you visit Bob's world first then go to Cassie Bad Moods show up in her world. Not sure how to factor that in.
@@GamingUniversityUoG it's stuff everyone has in their mind
Because of the persona series whenever i hear shadow or persona i automatically think of the games
sorry if this is unrelated to the video but do you think you'll play hellblade 2 on stream? I ask because I am currently incapable of buying it myself and I would love to watch someone who understands the game play it, and because of your videos of it I immediately thought of you. Also because I had a very similar experience of Alan Wake 2, where I couldn't buy it so I watched your stream and it was one of the best stream experiences i've had. Again sorry this is unrelated, i just didn’t know where else to ask you.
I'm testing it out tonight then streaming tomorrow
@@GamingUniversityUoG nice, thank you
God you sound so smart! Do you teach a college class or something?
ah sweet, more peak!
I love the dog walking in circles explanation for instincts. It's something almost everyone has seen, and it's impersonal enough that we can easily recognize it's just a silly behavior without getting defensive.
That's what I was hoping for. Removing it from the context of people so the point was more digestible.
I remember this one movie I enjoyed when I was younger about how dogs are actually aliens that attempted to colonize Earth, and wound up being pets instead. When one of their scouts befriends a kid, the kid asks why they move in a circle when they lay down. He explains that it's a means of protection, it produces an aura of protection that makes it so that no harm comes to you. When the kid tries it out, the dog then says "Sucker".
I'm glad to learn that, even though this was just a silly gag in a kids' movie about dogs secretly being aliens, that it actually wound up being correct about why dogs do that.
I recently watched a video from a speculative evolution project that was of sapience. They went over how some instincts (such as a strong desire for energy rich food) that used to be helpful aren't necessarily a good thing in more developed cultural environments. They called it "evolutionary lag". Feels relevant.
Bob's Bottles is definitely going to be heavy. I also like that you can see Lily on an island, and she has a completely different voice to the norm as Bob has never physically met her.
Already working on the video assets for it. Really going to be a bummer episode.
fun fact that Lili is still voiced by her actual VA if I'm remembering correctly
@@GamingUniversityUoG The themes of loss, repression and addiction create a very strong mixture. Not to mention the level design being a bunch of islands, and the Bob-tatoes being his feelings that he pushes everyone away.
Playing through that level was a roller coaster, as I have family that has dealt with all of that.
Though I am impressed that Bob made a Mushroom Booze.
@@GamingUniversityUoG Just went through that level and was fixed on why did the Moth/Butterfly have the voice of a child.
Then it occurred to me that it may have been the idea of childhood innocence, and it's actually his childhood voice from before he "learned things the hard way"
Bob’s Bottles is by far one of my favorite levels, and in all honesty I have no idea how it’s not going to end up as the longest episode yet. I don’t think there’s a single portion of the background details, level geometry, or even gameplay segments that aren’t going to be juicy to pick through (even the platforming with the heads clearing away the water, and which parts of the level are floating vs fully submerged. Even the fact that HELMUT’S bottle ride is noticably longer to enter is meaningful)
Glad that Psychonauts videos are still being made.
They are. This one was just a big undertaking. Something I knew would be the biggest one in the series.
@@GamingUniversityUoG It was worth it, Cassie's Collection is one of my all time favorites from the whole Psychonauts series, and your study and presentation on it was very very well done.
Two thoughts occur to me;
It's really sad that, even though they've lived so close to each other for decades, Cassie and Bob never talked to each other.
I think it's nice that the Librarian is still around on return visits. Like you said, letting her have full control is an issue, but isolation after traumatic events, or even just on occasion for self-reflection [Book sorting, so to speak], is normal and healthy in proper amounts
Yeah I wouldn't classify the Librarian as a villain by any stretch of the imagination. Poor lady was just beating herself up so bad that she felt she needed to create a new personality to avoid pain. Shapeshifter is where it is at
This was one of my favorite levels, mainly because of how the paper Cassies were modeled and animated. Normally for something like this a game would use 2D sprites on a single polygon always facing the camera, sort of like in Paper Mario. But here they're actual moving paper dolls with actively moving mouths and eyes. Very impressive!
Visually this entire world is incredibly impressive. I've always looked at my head as a library as well so this is the closest thing to me personally.
Funnily enough I think in the remake for TTYD they added a few pixels in the Z axis to give the characters a cardboard cutout/construction paper feel to them
I would like to add another neat detail. Cassie's personalities are bidimentional, just like Raz's summon. They are not full personalities, but shallow reflections of the person. Only when all these paper cutouts join together we see a full tridimentional Cassie with depth to her personality.
Yep each one is kind of a distilled done representation of a single cut of the pie that makes her up. Not complete.
13:36 missed opportunity to call it "Theory of Bee-haviorism"
Damn haha
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
3:00 "Otto is too distracted by the opening of the MotherLobe to give her any *mind*." I see what you did there.
I don't particularly like how if someone likes being alone, people automatically assume that there's something wrong with them. I may be biased here, being a loner myself, but I staunchly believe that there's nothing wrong with wanting peace, quiet, and privacy.
I'm asocial as well. My day job is draining since I have to deal with so many people. When I get home I rarely see or talk to anyone. It is not that solitude is a bad thing. It is 'Why' we are doing it. Cassie along with the others all suffered a severe trauma.
new psychology of psychonauts?? and it's 50 MINUTES LONG??!??? LET'S GOOO
And that's with stuff cut lol. Yeah sometimes the rabbit hole just keeps getting deeper and deeper.
@@GamingUniversityUoGI know lol you should see some of the rabbit holes I end doing via google
At 47:09 Cassie has in a way used silence, destroying, and loudened, semi represents the “speak no evil, hear no evil, and see no evil” through the fight
I Have ADHD. This video made me realize that I have been socially isolating myself. And I have been hyper focusing on things and neglecting sleep.
I'm so glad to see this series is still going!! Lemme take down my thoughts as I watch:
- I never knew the meaning to the Latin in the bees book! I hadn't realized Cassie was the first one to try confronting Maligula either.
- I mostly see the term hyperfixation used in relation to ADHD, usually as "the ADHD version of Special Interest" bc Special Interest is a term coined by and for those of us who are autistic
- And as an autistic person, I hate staunch Behaviorism believers with the passion of a million burning suns :)
- (Jungian psychology is mentioned) ("I'll Face Myself" from Persona 4 intensifies in my brain)
- RIP to Carl Jung, he would've loved the use of the Morphogenetic Fields theory in the hit psychological thriller game trilogy Zero Escape
- I feel like we need to talk more about Raz's trauma and how he thinks he's so great at hiding it and pretending he's totally fine. The archetype he makes is his inner child that he threw away, likely the first time he felt rejected by his family for being a psychic
- I think Cassie, though she likely wouldn't want to admit it, also felt a sense of power from her codependent relationship with Compton. She'd spent so long feeling helpless, and now she was being relied on by somebody for emotional stability. Maybe that's part of why her mental version of him is kind of pathetic and talks down about himself.
- I'm so excited for Bob's Bottles! It'll definitely be a heavy one, but that just makes the lessons all the more important.
I cut out a lot of stuff when it came to Dr. Watson and outright behaviorism. Felt it was a rabbit hole. But he applied his theories to his own four children and raised them in a controlled setting. Things turned out VERY badly for them. Governments started handing out pamphlets to advise parents to raise their kids the same way. By the end of his life he ended up a very unhappy man and burned his unpublished materials. I'm with you on Behaviorism.
When you play though that library its good, then the level progress and suddenly it opens up to Shanghai is just beautiful.
I think we can all agree Cassie delivers awesome one-liners.
She absolutly does. Her personal sense of humor is probably why all the paper cutouts were so humourous
What really ties all of this together is that when Raz asks if the Cassie formed from all the personalities merging is “the real Cassie”, she responds by saying she isn’t sure, but that she’s in there somewhere. It shows that she still believes she can never be 100% the real her, but able to still let parts of herself that she believes to be the real her escape when asked for it.
I would imagine the Teacher to be the most metacognitive because that part of her life would have been around when the Psychic Seven was formed, where she would have been intensively exploring her psychic abilities and mindscape.
This was such a treat to watch, a full hour of Gaming University Psychonauts goodness! :D Thank you very much for your hard work on this video!
It was my absolute pleasure. I'm glad it all came together in the end.
It's also pretty obvious in hindsight that her "Green needle witch" persona is covered in green needles. Tiny spines that prevent people from touching her or getting close
Also this whole entire video made me realize how much Persona series pulls from Jungian psychology. The main character is usually the perfect example of a shapeshifter, what with switching "Personas" mid battle. Basically, Persona seem to be a giant elaborate metaphor for Jungian psychology
Oh it 100% is. They mention Jung directly in most of the games. The Wild Card being the shapeshifter versus the other party members stuck in a single role. We see some evolution of their Personality when their Persona's level up and evolve. Usually at a character point where their personality pivots.
There's nothing more dangerous than a villain that thinks they're the hero. 🧐
Well, everyone’s the hero of their own story. It stands to reason that you could be a villain in someone else’s.
It’s important to recognise that the villain in your story is more than just a villain.
You know, it's a shame that Otto Mentallis doesn't have his own level. It'd be really interesting to see just what makes him so different from the others. From being seemingly unaffected by the battle of Grulovia, to never using psychic powers directly, there are some mysteries in that head.
Given what I we know of him I suspect he might be autistic, but it's impossible to say for sure without a deeper look.
I'd either wager that the forming of the official Psychonauts allowed Otto to just focus on his work, and inadvertently come into contact with a new functioning support structure.
There's also the fact that sometimes, trauma just doesn't hit some people. He could have just happened to be resilient to it. This doesn't make him callous or anything, just some things hit differently for people.
My favorite headcanon I saw is that Otto, unlike everyone else, went to therapy and that’s why he’s stable
Otto's postgame dialogue makes me think that we'll get a better look at his mind if there's ever a Psychonauts 3.
I saw a theory that he isn't really a natural Psychic. He's just talented with psychic machinery and expressed his power through tools and weapons. You'll notice when they're activating the Astrolath, his beam of energy comes from the pendant on his necklace instead of the forehead like everyone else.
For the longest time I had no clue why I was so fascinated by Cassie’s level ad opposed to Bob, but I think this video made me realize it. Cassie is like me, Bob is like many of my family members. I already fully understood how bobs mind worked because I’ve been around alchoholics and depression my whole life, but never anyone like me. I never realized how much Cassie’s story helped me come to terms with who I am
The one fictional character I found interesting was the knight and the dragon. I think especially in recent years people are judging characters more and are far more critical of characters. So a story of a knight fighting to slay a dragon that threatens the peace of the kingdom. Would be known as a tale of valor, but people would see it as the knight bullying a creature going off of instinct. Represented here as the dragon is a creature minding its own business, with the knight provoking the dragon. With Cassie's current mindset of isolation then she would appeal more to the dragon. As for the knight Cassie had issue with the police back home as they never fixed the problem, but put Cassie into a life or death situation for their own benefit. Which affected her view on the shining knight, a person that will come to the rescue. Probably putting more emphasis on her needing to take matters into her own hand. Making her attempt to connect with others to help all the more heartbreaking for her. It is probably why that she also feels that she has to be the one to look after Compton.
It would be cool if there was a series like this for the game No Straight Roads as its characters are an interesting exploration of creativity, how it's used, what inspires it and the connections it forms.
If my mental world was in this game, it would most likely be a battle arena of Regrets, Doubts, Judges, and Bad Moods
Sounds exhausting. Hope you're doing okay
Mind would be similar to Cassie's Collection but some stuff would be neatly categorized and put away while others are just strewn about without a care.
not sure how mine would be, probably some ever-shifting landscape
dont think neurodivergence or any attention deficit disorders have been handled in psychonauts before, so i wouldnt have a basis to generate upon
My mental world would probably be censors and the enablers. I have been seeing things I don't like so I just ignore them don't know if the mind auto censors those and I think I only see what I want to see
Mine would be a tornado of thoughts.
Maybe calming down every once in a while.
Let's go! Another episode of what I wish was called "Psychologynauts". 😁
Haha this one took it out of us. I'm so glad it's done and out.
@@GamingUniversityUoG I bet, it's not easy to write, record, capture footage, and all the other things for documentary length videos. Please know that I, and many others, appreciate the effort and value your work.
Always a treat when one of these comes out. Don't worry too much over the people griping about it taking 3 months to come out. About the same amount of time the last one took. And the one before that. And the one before that too.
Honestly, you're one of the more consistent upload schedules on my subscription list. Great work and I definitively _can_ wait for the next one.
One thing I loved about this level is raz’s archetype being voiced by Rikki Simmons who voices GIR from invader zim and raz is voiced by Richard horvitz who voices Zim. First time I heard the archetype speak and I’m like “GIR?” It makes me laugh every time.😂
I love watching these because they actually help me learn a bit more about my own way of thinking, and the psychological impacts of what I've done in my own headspace.
Admittedly, I'm guilty of transference. One bad individual left an effect on me that I associate (usually incorrectly) onto others with a specific trait.
As for the more important thing, I've noticed applications of archetypes in my own mind. Due to a rather serious stimuli early in my life, I created two specific archetypes in my own mind to help cover my conscious deficit in those areas. It's kinda interesting actually learning about the psychology behind them.
"to tend to the queen" also seems like it means cassie must continue to pursuit her coping to keep herself safe, tending to herself
29:20 Dean says I'm not a friend confirmed. 😢
Lmao if anything I'm more bubbly online than in person :p
Scientists really used to get away with anything, huh?
Sometimes they really showcase the, 'Pursuit of Science regardless of the cost' mentality. Some would argue those tendencies havent stopped.
@@GamingUniversityUoG True. At least these days we have ethics review boards.
They still get away with horrific things. We just lived through one of the biggest scientific scams and assaults on humanity ever.
"Trust the science!"
@@GamingUniversityUoG the ~tendencies~ themself haven't. but at least our society is less willing to suffer them.
Love the minor detail that Cassie is "paper thin" in disguise and emotions, but is still flexible and talented
Also, narrative wise, the Die-brarian is another example of what Magulia is: an aspect of the mind that works of a malformation or maladapted process of trauma
goddamn. almost a full hour of psychonauts psychology? damn!
This one nearly killed me lol.
Alan Wake video: 2k views uploaded a month ago.
Psychonauts Video: 8k views uploaded a day ago.
The people want more psychonauts.
A great choice of video for World Bee Day!
Would you believe me if I said I had no clue we had a World Bee Day or that it was today? That was a happy accident haha.
me just after finals sitting down to more classes: oh yeah it’s big brain time
Ooh fun. Hope finals went well. At least that's one thing off your mind
These examinations of the game have actually helped me poke at my own mental hangups by laying out the different ways of resolving issues mentally. There's a particularly nasty memory from highschool that I was able to unpack and quiet by looking into my thought processes then vs now, so thank you for that 👍
Its been 84 years...
I'm glad everyone survived these long 84 years lol.
In 1922 Steven Poplawski was the first man to mount an agitating element to a simple glass container
What I want to know is; does the Assistant Librarian represent anything, or did someone at Double Fine just want to put a cute mouse in a Victorian dress? Hm. I suppose that would still represent something...
As always, love your psychonauts videos!
Thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoy them.
This episode was so well put together, and I loved the longer run time. Definitely worth the wait.
Thank you so much! I didnt know how big this one was going to be but I knew it would be up there.
Despite studying Latin, I completely glossed over the book because I thought it was a lorem ipsum. The Latin is... far from fluent. Things like the tense and word order are jumping around all over the place. But I think your translation is probably close to what they were trying to say.
I think "The wasp did not love him" was probably meant to be more like "she didn't care for it", specifically mistaking "eum" as a neuter pronoun because of the -um ending (should have been "id"). My condolences to the Helmut/Lucrecia shippers.
I ended up just stealing the translation from the wiki site. Served its purpose well enough.
The wasp is Maligula, not Cassie. My condolences to the Helmut/Lucrecia shippers (Who even are they?)
@@heyoyo10gaming4 Ach, that's the price I pay for translating Latin before waking up in the morning.
A full episode on my favorite mind from Psychonauts 2 on one of my most boring work days??
A true blessing ❤
Haha glad I could offer some assistance.
Since you’re mentioning personas, when you’re done with Psyconauts, how about a series on the Persona games? Specifically 4 and 5.
I'm planning to finish Psychonauts in full first before jumping on that band wagon. I love finished 3 and 4 and plan to live stream 5 after I finish Hellblade 2.
Cassie's internal conflict follows the Internal Family Systems model in all but name, with a shiny paper covering.
The IFS Model describes that everyone is made up of parts, each of which is created and utilized to help a person in certain contexts. The Librarian specifically is a manager, a part that’s built to help control the archetypes in a way that would keep the self and the other parts safe. The librarian did this through rationale, strictness, condescension and snappiness, which could have been helpful during the battle. But after the battle of Maligula, she was hurt by the guilt of having been the first to fail, so the librarian began to rise into power in order to keep her safe again. As she failed again and again to absolve her guilt by trying to talk things out with the Psychic Six, the Librarian's case grew bigger than the other archetypes The Librarian believed the only way to protect Cassie was to effectively shut down all of the emotional parts of herself and thus sought to use Raz to help lock away the parts she saw as detrimental to her.
As a part of you grows out of control, it starts showing up in inappropriate contexts and trying to perform tasks it’s not well-suited to perform- your parts are two-dimensional in their aspects (and literally 2D in their representation in the game). A rogue part can even convince you that it is your conscience, that it is the real you. But people who use the model know that even an out-of-control archetype is good in certain situations and has a role in the person’s life. It just needs to be taken down a peg.
The three other archetypes invading the Librarian represent something incredibly traumatic- dissonance. By getting an understanding of and trust from her other archetypes, Raz could help her Being faced with evidence that the Librarian’s two-dimensional worldview may be untrue represented itself as physical trauma for the librarian, enough trauma to unravel her and get her into a healthy position. At the end of the battle, she’s shrunk down to the same size as the other archetypes, but none of them are mad. They all still care about Cassie and want to work with her to do that, and upon realizing that, the Librarian works with them to help Cassie rediscover her true self (represented as them forming a 3D Cassie manifesting in her own mind) and become self-directed again.
Also a SPOILER for the other Psychic six to keep in mind:
Pay attention to Bob’s flashback of Truman firing him. The man is looking like he’s about to burst into tears at the idea of having to make his own uncle leave the base. Given we don’t know anything about Lili’s grandparents, that has a implication about how he and Bob could have been
I think another way to conceptualize the process of sneaking the other archetypes into the die-brarian is as pushing it back towards the shapeshifter, able to be a librarian when needed, but also a teacher, or a writer, or a survivor
I remember watching the milkman conspiracy a long time ago, I really enjoyed it and recently I found this video. After that I decided to watch the entire video series and brought the Psychonauts game series as a whole because of how much I enjoy this video series.
Everything can be measured theoretically, it's about whether we have the tools necessary to effectively measure them. I personally very much subscribe to the thought that humans don't have some supernatural component to them, we're creatures in the physical world, so we are dictated by the rules of the physical world. Humans aren't truly all that different than any other system. The collective unconscious is an external stimuli in a way, as we are created physically by our parent's bodies, and the archetypes are embedded inside us as part of this system, they are instincts just the same, but broader strokes of instinct of how those more specific instincts best interact on average historically. Humans do not need a ghost to function in ways we do not yet understand, and assuming there needs to be randomness to have a more complex process behind our decisions we don't yet understand, is a blind assertion that rejects the scientific method entirely
Humans in-theory, can be engineered to behave certain ways, whether we should or not is another question, and why this process works or not is also a thing, but we do have evidence of this being factual, with you even explaining one such example of someone doing just that, engineering a behavior
I like how the other Psychic Six are in a high place that's very inaccessible and looks down on her.
*applause* Amazing work as always! One thing that puzzled me about Cassie is that she's clearly Chinese, but has a name that is very much not Chinese. But now I think about it some more my guess would be she changed it in case Fanny sent people after her.
You know what that is a good thought. Changing your name is common when immigrating when you are running from someone who may track you down.
@@GamingUniversityUoG It's definitely a wise move on her part, though I'm wondering why it never gets brought up, in one of her memory vaults for example.
46:12 warning!
This boss fight is exaggerated and is not what normal librarians are like
Good to know. I almost developed an innate fear of Librarians.
thank you i always confused by her level . i never understood what was going on .
Cassie was a lot more subtle than the other worlds with what is going on here.
I've been looking forward to more of these
Hey thanks for making these, I'm glad you take the time to research and treat the matters discussed in the game with respect.
That's why these ones take longer to produce. With the Remedy stuff it is more geared to my existing knowledge base. But for the Psychonauts stuff it really does take a good deal of research. Considering how sensitive it is I do my best to not put out bad info. At the very least positive.
I absolutely love this series! You do amazing on each video and i can't wait to see you do the next video!
Wow, nice try making a video subtly calling me out for all my behavior! Haha, that was a good one. Anyway, please make a video about Cassie next time, because I’d really like to know what makes her tick
love these psychology videos. im very excited for bobs bottles. i loved that level so much and feel for bob
Finishing up recording assets for Bob this week. Then note and research time.
Imagine what The Joker’s mental world might be like
I imagine he wouldnt know what's happening anymore than we do in his head lol
I love these in-depth analysis videos that you perform. I sometimes wonder if you would have any interesting ideas for a world inside someone's mind.
I'm sure I can come up with something fun like that. I tend to be a creative type in my free time.
Another youtuber thought Cassie had dissosiative identity disorder! But if she did, it would be an incrdibly outdated repræsentation of D I D! I Think that this jungian archytype is a much more acurate interpretation! D I D is multiple, 3 dimensional people Living inside 1 body!
D.I.D. is a popular thing to throw around. Cassie got stuck in a behavior pattern characterized by one of her Archetypes. It's why I prefer the Jungian Possession idea. One aspect took control and eventually had to relinquish it.
Jesus. I feel horrible for Little Albert. How do you do that to a kid, barely able to think for himself, to make him fear the most basic things a child shouldn't fear? In the name of science only goes so far until you're remembered more negatively than progressively.
It's a tale as old as time. I think we would be naive to think similar things don't still happen but in a different form.
Yeah the kids story is really sad. The family moved before the trial was done so the scientists involved never got the chance to reverse the conditioning. They fully intended to. they tracked the family down decades later and apparently the boy died at the age of 8 due to a genetic disease. Really depressing.
The particular concepts in this video are interesting to me. Im taking an ecology and conservation course at university and one of my current subjects is evolutionary ecology which has brought up learned verses instinct or genetically inherited behaviours. I dont have anything to add to the video i just find it cool how despite being different fields theres some overlap.
That's the reason I love having some experience with as many fields of study as possible. I may not be an expert in any of them but you begin seeing patterns among them. That Overlap. Really cool! My best friend has a degree in Environmental Sciences and we have had that discussion in that past.
This video was awesome! Well worth the wait! Im glad my favorite Psychonauts level received a big video like this
Ah I missed this series! Thank for the hard work!
Can I just say that I absolutely LOVE these videos!
Great video as always ! Cassie is truly my favorite of the 6 and also my mind probably looks a lot like hers ! The next one is going to be painful I fear ! Can't wait !
Same here. I love Cassie and her mental world. Closest to my mind as well.
I feel like the music in the background of the boy and the rat is from marjora's mask?
It is a zelda tune yes lol
Dude, seriously, if you're talking about Psychonauts 2, then put the damn 2 in the title and thumbnail.
I have not finished Psychonauts 2. Which means I can't watch this video.
That would've been nice to know BEFORE I clicked on the video.
The first screen of the video with the title has a spoiler warning at the top in red letters for this reason.
@@GamingUniversityUoG The spoiler warning might be a little easy to miss, given the amount of text shown for only a few seconds.
Also tbh Cassie wasn’t even in the 1st game that should’ve been your clue it’s the second game
In real life is there other methods then invoking other archetypes to help individual in that situation?
I'd need more specific details on the situation in general. I mean general knowledge of how to handle yourself in a situation helps. Practice. Aversion Therapy where certain things no longer bother you as much.
Glad we got another one of these, amazing as always!
Been in 4 crashes and near miss twice (all passanger except 1 of the 2 near misses, darn seinors) being on a car is so damn terrifying a 20 min ride ends up making me stressed and scared enough to sleep the rest of the day away no matter the time of day, any age you can be conditioned not just young, just try to catch these things
Oh you absolutely can be conditioned at any age. According to the Neurobiologists though people are most neuroplastic between the ages of 2-4. It is the easiest to condition then.
@@GamingUniversityUoG sadly that is where a LOT of advertising cash goes too, i hope parents can take care of their kids
From what I remember of this next level, the next episode is gonna be a doozy! I’ve really been enjoying these and how they break down psychological concept. Can’t wait for the next one!
Did we just watched infant abuse by Watson? >_
Yeah. Not only did they not think this was a messed up thing they recorded it! The story about the infant gets worse too. Family moved away before Watson could reverse the programming. He intended to fix it but the mother left the state.
3:00 I know this has been joked about but I'm SERIOUSLY starting to wonder if Otto's going to be a future villain. He's an ass who caused so many problems and we haven't seen his mental world so he's sketchy as hell.
Maybe it's an autism thing, but I don't relate to the feeling of having multiple personas at all. I have to handle all of that stuff about roles and appropriate behavior consciously, and it's exhausting.
FINALLY I CAN SEE THIS also WHAT THE HELL SOME PEOPLE GET IT 2 DAYS EARLY!?!? NOT FARE lol either way as always very informative Dean a good listen while i eat my breakfast
(So....whos next?)
Bob will be next. And yeah I got this finalized on Friday and it went up on Patreon early access.
@@GamingUniversityUoG oh boy that's gonna be heavy
Love your Psychonauts videos, really appreciate all of the work you put into them. Well done!
You should do one for Raz's dad, Augustus.
Hard for the ones we don't physically enter their minds. Plus there is the situation where I personally believe his character was changed between the first and second game.
sorry buying a new computer it comes pree loaded with an os ? fk NO! ;) not only is those corp store tincans hardware often lobotomised so it only can work with said corps over priced 'upgrades' but corp's os choice for people if allowed to dictate for them , need i say more then windows 8 ?
though urgh , these days with how drmd even an os is its a constant vigilance to keep files safe and not be lost when the sodding support uppdates keeps resetting if or if not you want a free 'upgrade' in windows 11 aka.. slightly more windows 8 , sighs... windows 7 that last pro customer windows :/
my only complaint is that almost none of the characters and archetypes you see in Cassie's mind are actually Chinese. Shakespeare is English, the pretzel Meister's daughter is German, the dragon and knight are nonspecifically European, and the deceitful serpent imagery imposed onto the cops is Biblical. I suppose this could in theory be explained by Cassie generally being more fond of the novelty of foreign media and culture growing up than that of her homeland, but even _her name_ is Western!
It just seems so out of character that nobody at doublefine thought to research actual Chinese culture and media for this level considering how well they research psychology for these games.
I dunno, maybe this was the result of budget and time constraints, or maybe there's an explicit reason for this somewhere that I'm just missing. I should also note that I've only just recently started to realize just how pervasively my own nation's media and culture has been bleeding into that of others for the past few years, so maybe i could just be underestimating just how long this has been going on.
EDIT: It just occurred to me that much of this could have simply been things she absorbed in the long time since she left China, given how much younger she seems to be in her mental vaults compared to modern day, but you'd still think there'd be _something_ Chinese in her mind besides the clothes and the zodiac.