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Well said man, after training in 40 different countries and gyms around the world over the last 3 years I've seen 2-3 PTs that actually knew what they were doing :/ Looks like a combination of low barrier to entry with cheap easy certifications + desperate gyms. It's sad to say this but most people are better off learning and training themselves
Mario, having traveled around the world, would you say you've encountered largely less than fit gym communities as are so common here in the USA? Here in the states you can walk on a beach for hours before you really see a fit guy. What has your experience been in your travels?
It's slightly better in Europe on the beach at least in Spain and Croatia. Having said that you still don't see natural ripped guys walking around, it's typically just skinny guys with above average genetics
+Mario Tomic I was going to make the very distinction you made - namely, that those who are lean enough to have abs are usually skinny guys. By the way, your channel is one of the best on TH-cam. I love that you take a philosophical and psychological approach to fitness. It's my belief that both are essential to getting and staying in shape. Fitness and nutrition are great templates in which to form the virtues and self-governance, qualities necessary for success in life in all domains. Keep up the great work - and In bocca al lupo:)
@Truuf Huurtz Are you comparing knowing what to do in the gym as a recreational lifter to cooking for yourself??? 95 percent of people don't need to spend all their time looking at yt fitness videos to know what to do in the gym. THIS IS BASIC ASS SHIT....most people don't need to be exercise scientists. He was also talking about the personal trainers THEMSELVES, this videos was not really about weather one should get a personal trainer or not xDDD
sometimes it's a bit awkward when you see someone using improper form, because not everyone takes it very well, pending on the person, some will take it as a personal attack, others may genuinely appreciate it, but sometimes I just let them get on with it provided they are not doing anything incredibly stupid that could cause injury.
Truth is a must, you're not the first person I've heard this from. Is that a law? B/c I've known several personal trainers & they all write diets. Even the on-line trainers write out diet plans. How are they getting away with it?
When I used to work at a gym I worked with a trainer to was in the ballpark of 300lbs, (although he had lost over 150lbs). Ill never forget him, one of the best trainers I had ever met. That's why if I ever went for a trainer I would go for someone who OVERCAME the problem I am trying to solve.
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I must be blessed. When I got a PT at my gym she was almost half my age and didn't agree with me. She could have been my stubborn daughter. She didn't told me what I thought I needed but assessed my goals and my physical status and adapted to that. She pushed me and made me embrace different tools that I hadn't thought off. She kicked me in the right direction and made me not needing her in the end.
This is exactly what a PT should be for, teaching beginners how to work towards their goals in an optimal and safe way to a point of you being able to eventually do the programs without them or create your own programs
One personal trainer I know started a 52 year old woman who never worked out in her life on 18 pound kettlebells. She ended up snapping something in her back. Most trainers don't understand the aging process. Not all of us are 20 year old men. He kept telling her it was a lack of motivation and she got hurt.
I did things like that when I started at 18. There needs to be a higher level of standards and a PT Certification should be akin to getting a CSCS (In my opinion). Far too many PTs suck
Honestly, if you are dedicated and serious about getting working out, the best trainer out there is yourself. Take some time to experiment to understand what works and what doesn't.
I would never hire a personal trainer but I would have paid atleast 1000 euros for someone to share evidenced based science with me. Things like volume, frequency, intensity, resttimes, protein,...took me years to know what I know now and I could have made so much more progress along the way so in my own humble opinion just paying 1000 and get all the information right away would have been cheap. So I do not need some overpriced man counting my reps but I do need all the science.
In my gym I was doing some Sumo Deadlift and the "personal trainer" approached me and said "He what are you doing" I said "Sumo Deadlift and he said "Oh you are doing it wrong" and he showed me how to do the Romanian Deadlift and I was like Hey I know thay but im doing a sumo not a romaninan deadlift and he didnt understand what I was telling lmao he hasnt talked to me again
Deadlifts are bad for my back unless I use one of those bars that is a square you stand inside. With a regular barbell I can't clear my knees without arching my back so I don't bother with deadlifts. Squats I do fine though. I don't like working my upper traps the same day as my back and legs anyway. I train those on arm days since they stabilize during any lift where you lift with your arms from a standing position.
The vast majority of trainers suck and lack the most basic understanding of what they’re trying to teach. I’m studying to be a personal trainer but my goal is to be the best I can possibly be.
One of the trainers at a gym told me that I needed to eat every 2-3 hours, even needed to wake up to eat. I declined his offer to be my trainer. Now, he doesn't speak to me.
Yes so if you have a trainer that doesn't know how to get himself in shape that's obviously a sign of incompetence but one who has been there done that knows what it takes but isn't in shape because they are old or just don't care then they can be good.
undeadpresident bullshit. I have seen people who are out of shape and train people all the time. Sometimes people just don't have the time or they majorly stressed out. This can cause fat increase.
At a gym I used to go to,a girl I went to school with trained with the same PT for 5 straight years,not only did she not drastically transform her body in those 5 years but she actually gained body fat.
I go to LA Fitness in Houston, and I always see people getting nowhere with these trainers wasting their time and money. I've noticed a similar pattern where they take people and do the same workouts and using the same machines, even though people from all ages and sizes are participating in their service. I feel that if you have the motivation to go to the gym and work hard towards your goals, you should be able to do some research and do well on your own.
Hey bro...let me back you up..Yeah, there are plenty of crap trainers...Let me share one incident: A lady came to the gym who was obese and had a big tummy. She asked the trainer how can she lose her belly fat and love handles & from the first day, the trainer made her sit in the "Ab Machine" and told her only to do Sit-ups until failure. hahaha..! Gosh..! "Fake People Everywhere, Be aware" :)
Well honestly all trainers are just 'trainers' like only training affect these kind of things. For example when someone is training with low energy, most trainers think about what could have gone wrong however they only think about trainingrelated subjects. Obviously eating Sugar, not getting enough sleep,...are much more logical causes.
I used to say that all my certification did was give me credibility. I didn't learn much new about actual training through obtaining the certification.
When I first started working out in my local gym, I got a 'free personal advise and routine' to start things off. A skinny guy, maybe around 20 years old, gave me a full body routine, with one isolation exercise for each muscle, and around 20 minutes of cardio. I was on this routine for months, without any progress whatsoever, obviously. Finally I realized I was wasting my time and started doing my own research. 2 years, about 20 lbs of muscle and pretty much all of Sean's videos later, I finally made the progress I so desperately needed. If only a competent personal trainer helped me kick things off, my size right now would be significantly better.
This is so true. People that are ignorant on how to reach their goals in the gym are given false information by the personal trainer and they get shit results and come back for more help as they waste their time and money. Most of the time its a scam for the business to make more money.
This is why they have "No personal training" signs all over their gym. They don't want a legit person with knowledge who actually cares coming in and showing them up. I just ignore the signs.
I remember a long time ago me and a friend signed up for a rugby team so we decided to get in the gym to bulk up and get stronger so we wouldn't get broken in half on the pitch. The trainer at the gym came up to us after we'd done some deadlifts and said that deadlifts were bad for you and a waste of time!
When I transitioned from bodyweight workouts to weight training, I was introduced to a chubby trainer who made me do like 15 upper body exercises and said I should be in the gym every day. I was run-down afterwards and fucked up the next day. I skipped gym for a week, googled good beginner workout programs, and returned to the gym a week later on a different schedule when I wouldn't run into him.
Absolutely 100% right. My stepmother is overweight and im on the route of becoming a personal trainer but i read alot and within 4 months i have gotten muscle and lower body fat. I laughed at the workout she was given by a personal trainer. It was alot of isolation exercises and the package was expensive and progress towards her goal were non existent. I understand its a business but being hoenst and giving the customer the best and truthful information builds a trainers recognition in the long run instead of the short term success by cheating people
When I was unemployed I took a job at a Goodlife gym as a PT because I wanted to supplement EI. They basically hired me on the spot and I spent almost a week watching all of their propaganda/sales-rapist-in-training videos. My personal favourite was the one that teaches you how to "overcome objections" and dissect their finances to find ways to con them into buying $600-$7000 worth of personal training (they pressured you to sell only a years worth and no less). The biggest kick in the ass is that they charge you hundreds of dollars for a weekend training course to be "certified". I quit on the last day of training when they were forcing me to go around the gym and trying talk to people. The regional fitness manager didn't like the fact that I refused to go talk to people who were already working out because I could tell that they either knew quite well what they were doing and/or they didn't want to be interrupted.
Can confirm. Was a personal trainer years ago. The trainers I worked with were a waste of money. I was a waste of money. Thankfully, not many people wasted their money on me;)
I see soooo many trainers counting reps haha 😂 “I don't count my sit-ups; I only start counting when it starts hurting because they’re the only ones that count.” - Muhammad Ali
@@weirdflex8158its really not. The point is that getting your muscles “hurting” (close to failure) is far more important than doing an arbitrary amount of reps
My uncle who is 60 years old went to the gym for the first time, the trainer told him to do pushups and pullups. He unfortunately tore his chest muscles. It's ridiculous.
PTs are Physical Therapists. Any personal trainer who uses that title without the degree is someone who doesn't know what they're talking about. They overestimate their knowledge to not even grasp that.
Deana Duquesne actually i would say that physical therapist are a waste of time and money, they dont give you anything that a pt that actually knows how to train can give you
Spot on, been a trainer for 15 years. 2 sessions a week for $30-$180 per hour is a waste. The focus should be on an all encompassing plan. Nutrition, regular fitness, strength and cardio. Corrections flexibility as well as proper sleep stress and water. Find what works for the person to make it habits and standards.
Totally agree as a trainer of 52 years old 30 years of training myself passed my life to learn and its never done but the first and more important thing is to educate people to do the right form with the right weight to avoid any injury but unfortunatly you see so much trainers doesn't know even the basic movement and don't have the knowledge to train people at different age or overweight etc
I was a PT at LA fitness starting out. Everyone has to start somewhere. I am not disagreeing with saying that LA fitness is a rip-off (it is). However, our LA fitness was ranked #1 in the nation for personal training. We had the highest client retention, best results and reviews, best business practices, and highest sales. Aside from that, you have to understand that not all clients follow your advice. I had one client who worked with me 3 times a week for a full year (yes, that was expensive). I gave her nutrition advice, but she ignored it all the time. She dragged through her workouts, only wanted to do the easy stuff, never wanted to lift heavy (even though she was more than capable), and complained about everything. You have to remember that these personal trainers are only spending maybe an hour and a half to a few hours at most with these people each week. We are not in control of what they decide to go home and do. I swear, I could try to expose her to as much intrinsic motivation and try to get her to focus on her health. However, it would go in one ear, and right out the other.
i went to a trainer once . booked a session saw them they were not in shape. i cancelled it infront of them . they said why. i said your not in shape why should o take advice from you and walked off
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I can definitely understand your sentiment. I have only been around few personal trainers and the prices I would agree on, are a bit overpriced. I have most of my fitness training experience from the military as an instructor. The dynamics out here are something else from what I see. I see misleading information and lack of much guidance except to sales funnel a person into purchasing programs or supplements. I will make sure to be aware of peers and to ensure my clients are getting exactly what they deserve. Great video.
Sean i know this is an old post so am not sure if you will monitor responses, of course you are not wrong and it is good advice to suggest people look at what they get for their money. I am in my 60’s and am currently doing a number of courses on line just for my own knowledge, Gym instructor, Personal Trainer, GP referral, Lower back pain management, and Nutrition for athletic performance. They all make it quite clear you should not attempt to give advice you are not qualified to give, i know some good people but also some lazy ones who use this as an income stream whilst doing something else. As you say it does not require a degree but in fairness the content of the courses are useful.
This is a great video.I've made my living as a personal trainer for nearly 10 years. I agree personal training certifications aren't often worth the paper on which they're printed. And I also agree that most personal trainers are pretty bogus. It's quite typical to see a personal trainer put grandma up on an inverted bosu ball and hand her a kettle bell instead of doing essential movements. With that said, it's staggering how many otherwise perfectly intelligent people simply don't get the biomechanics of exercise. These people, if left on their own, would surely injure themselves. Plus there is an enormous community of people who would never train if they didn't have a standing appointment with a trainer who walks them and motivates then through each workout. This demographic needs us. The rest can learn what they need to know by coming to channels like this. Fitness isn't rocket science. People are not unfit because of lack of knowledge in most cases.
PTs are not going to tell someone who's responsible for their income the truth. That achieving their dream physique will take years of consistent HARD training and strict dieting. And they have a long, long way to go with many obstacles ahead.
Thankfully this isn’t me as a trainer 😅 we’re too expensive to be slack tbh. It’s our job to be fitter/more well informed than the average person. I feel so guilty if I don’t give my clients 100%
I currently have a personal trainer, I am 63 years old and in pretty good shape but started lifting at 58 when I hurt my shoulder helping my Dad move. I found out my shoulders have a pre dispostion for rotater cuff injuries- I was born with it. Between physical therapy and recovering, I was out of commission for well over a year and when I started getting back into it, realized that there was too much information out there to the point I did not know what I was doing. So I hired a personal trainer, and am learning a lot. I am not looking for a some kind of senior wellness program. I am capable of lifting without limitations but know a 63 year old body will not respond the same as a 20 year old, yet I have no interest in some kind of "senior aerobics" program. I have discovered that everyone is built and responds differently. If you do your research and have the time and money, personal trainer is a good way to go. Some of these online trainers are pretty good. Some I am not to sure about and it is hard to put a one size fits all program together. Sean does an excellent job, but one cannot say the same thing about a lot of youtube trainers.
one day I went to the gym and there was that lady who works there as a personal trainer she was overweight even I looked way better than her in the shape and yet she was trying to convince me that she can make me lose weight
A lot of it is marketability too, gen pop naturally gravitates to bs training styles like circuit training for strength workouts and any kind of flashy ab workout or anything with the word functional in it. I just started as a pt in a big box gym and your naturally made to be very desperate at the start so sometimes i find myself saying things ik just arnt true but its what i think the Client needs to hear in order to be more open to training. Im trying to put a stop to that tho.
At the gym i go to the personal trainer stopped me in the middle of my work out and im a girl so at first I thought he was going to shit on me or say something slick. But he said "you look like you know what youre doing." Like that was nice of him to say but I was literally on my 6th rep doing elevated reverse lunges and he went out of his way to get me to take my earphones out just to say that
I am a beginner and thought about a personal trainer but I have never been impressed with the gym trainers. They are either not in the shape I would aspire to be or they don't seem to into their training sessions. They literally stand there with a clip board. The only good reason to hire one is if you need someone to push you. For me, it's hard to push myself on my own but that's something I'd rather work on instead of paying 70 bucks/hour for someone may not be training me right.
Yes, totally agree. I am self taught, and I also took the weekend certified personal trainer courses, and half of the people in the class just want to get certified, but they don't even train or workout themselves. I was like wtf. How can people get certified when they don't know what training is all about? I spend so much time at the gym and I try to read and learn about fitness so at least I have basic understanding about training.
There are several reasons why not you're losing approx 1 kilo weekly that may be outside of the trainer's remit. Not following your nutritional advice but swearing that you are. Hitting the pub big time at least 5 times weekly and swearing that you're not. Food binges late at night and not realising how often you're doing this. Middle to late-middle-aged party animals who cannot understand how they can work out 3 times weekly and nothing's happening despite being hungover for the majority of the week.
Watching this helps a lot as I’m passionate about becoming a personal trainer and helping people transform and change their life’s and just help people. This shows me things I need to avoid and I’m glad my mindset was far from all these trainers advice anyways and more focused on helping the person transform their lives vs just get them to lift a weight
There really are some stinkers out there. I'm certainly no expert but it's shocking. I wanted to learn as I went, but when I asked questions I was told just do the exercises. The protein window is my favourite piece of outdated advice.
My PT is the same age as me so we have the same interests. We actually ended up becoming friends and we talk a lot at the gym. But I definitely do not need him to train me anymore. He gives great tips, especially emphasizing the mind-muscle connection. I’ve made a load of progress but I think that’s mostly my dedication. I’m not the type of guy that needs motivation from others to work hard.
You don't need a personal trainer, just someone who's willing to take an afternoon of there time to teach you the science of strength training...if of course they know anything about it.
thats like anything in life you can learn it but its taking the time to do so such as building a car or cutting your own hair but of course we probably would never do so becuz its time consuming so we have to pay for that other person time / manor labor to help fix or show us
100% truth. this whole video is almost every gym i've ever been in. it is so frustrating. the worst. i hate them alllllllll. i've never understood how they all look so awful and people don't see that. how can you get fitness advice from someone so out of shape?? oh god i could just go on forever. they're so uneducated. i wish more people had your mindset. and yes this whole video was great advice to new people looking to make their life better and healthier. great work👌🏼
This is actually why I decided to become a CPT. I have a lot of knowledge and experience, and I love teaching people about nutrition and resistance training. It is incredible how much misinformation is out there. I aim to make a difference in the way that they want and need, not in the ways I see idiots in polo shirts training them.
My trainer told me eat 2 meals a day, maybe even 1 to lose weight, he said no need to count calories, and that (because I'm vegan) I should get protein from animals and that plants aren't made for human consumption
I know this is an older video, but 2 things: 1) I’m really digging all of the content on this channel and I really appreciate how you go about providing it, keep it coming! 2) I’m a trainer and when I saw this, I had the intention of watching and beIng pissed off. But honestly, it’s all so true. The majority of my personal training has been at a commercial gym and I always strived to be better. But over the years I’ve met plenty of new trainers that had no business trying to sell training. It can be potentially be really bad at gyms also because it’s all about making the monthly quota and being known as that trainer with “all the clients”, which can set you up for failure if you’re not giving enough attention to clients without burning out and getting lazy and doing the exact shit that you describe in this video lol
Cpt tried to tell me I was taking creatine wrong. Said dry scooping and chugging water and food after was a waste of creatine because it had to be dissolved. Then flexed her credentials and implied I was an idiot. Checked her social media and she had a quarter rep squat pr with 285lbs on the bar 😭. Girl was prolly 120lbs didn’t even have a physique.
I've had friends that have Incorporated the use of personal trainers. And yes the training was less than optimal but they did get them to at least go to the gym and at least start to develop a routine. Basically they were paying for a workout buddy. And for that it worked fine.
Been there and done that. Years ago, I watched a "personal trainer" sip a dunkins coffee while the client was knocking out situps that looked like a fish out of water.
I could not agree more. I've been working as a personal trainer for 20 years and I can't tell you the number of trainers I've encountered that are just lazy and have no desire to educate themselves and provide a good service. I did a video similar to this on my channel. I work with special populations so I always have to be on top the latest research. I've always said the day a personal trainer thinks they know everything and isn't willing to learn is when they need to get out of the industry. Great video.
Maybe you are just in unexpectedly bad shape worse than the trainer ever saw to begin. I've seen people throw up half way through what would normally be called a warm-up. They were just in really, really bad shape.
To be quite honest man guys in prison do like 2-3 hours of body weight movements nonstop and I mean just look at the results I'm talking about straight 45 min nonstop push-ups body weight squats dips and chin-ups literally doing that alone would turn you into a monster ... and I mean 45 min push ups 45 min squats 45 chin ups 45 min dips every day combined w burpees and running throughout the week that sounds crazy but I promise you if you could do that you would be massive ... I'm a personal trainer who knows what he's talking about and that guy maybe just didn't know how to apply it but a Calisthenics routine is actually for a beginner probably the best thing you could do
Worst advice ever. 2-3 hours of body weight movements every single day? As a (skinny) beginner? The worst thing is: push ups and dips...1,5 hours of chest, triceps (and shoulder). Honestly; all a beginner needs is 1-3 sets of plus minus 15 reps per musclegroup and this is supported by science. Unless if you are going to increase the volume overtime; where is the progressive overload?
I’m a beginner PT and I wanted to say thank you for the information because I wanna make sure I’m doing well as a PT and I wanted to make that I doing something right or if I’m doing something wrong I’ve done some of the mistakes you mentioned in your video and I’m definitely gonna try and fix my approach thank you very much this video has been incredibly helpful
At my gym there is a personal trainer who is obese herself (my guess is 130kg @ 1.7m).... Now im not trying to judge... Maybe she used to be in good shape once upon a time (in her 50s), but it really hurts the average view on personal trainers lol
I dont understand why there are still some people training with fat trainer. Not motivating to see fat trainer. What skills or lifestyle are u going to learn with them,?
Interesting. I believe that trainers should definitely pursue a healthy lifestyle. However, I also realizes that sometimes there are underlying medical issues that may hinder the composition of a trainer. Maybe if you took time to get to know her she would share more about her journey with you... Just a thought :)
Giving the video a Thumbs up. I'm a personal trainer, and I agree with everything you said, besides one thing... sometimes you have clients who are overweight, and elderly with tons of joint issues. I have a client who can't do any sort of squats because of joint issues, and can't do more than 10 minutes of cardio.. sometimes those isolation movement's are the only movement's they can do, and you need to build them up to other movements and more cardio after giving them a solid nutrition plan to help take some weight off the achey joints
nailed it on the head. i have around 10 personal trainers in my gym. 9 out of those 10 dont even remotely look like physical/personal trainers. i really feel sorry for the people wasting their money on these guys. this trend is across the board. i went to a friends gym and the same story over there as well.
I've helped train people and most just don't care about their health and or don't have the drive. A PT can't fix that, only your form if you have the motivation to do it.
i know exactly what your talking about!! im recently going to Sochi and a while back my friend and i got offered for a free consultation. and while we were going through the workout, the things that Ive learned from NASM ( certification) I've been giving Qs to my friend and the "certified" trainer wasn't focusing on his form. i felt that i was the actual trainer
I see most of the trainers at my gym stand there talking to their clients as they walk on a treadmill and when using machines or weights they rarely correct bad form if they even recognize it, never set up the machines properly all the while discussing current events.. I could not agree more.
I’ve been going to this little local gym for 1 year. I’ve witnessed a personal trainer train the same 5-6 people. None of them have made any noticeable progress in either weight loss or general athleticism.
Before I watch this I’ll say I think 90% of personal trainers are a waste of money because they don’t really try to get their clients in shape because they feel their clients won’t need them anymore. I see it in my gym anyway. Most of the personal trainer’s clients in there look EXACTLY the same after 6-9 months
My people tell me they are happy with results . I can’t force any one to make a change I help guide them to better eating and habits with great work outs .
I saw a personal trainer with a client at gym today. I usually go at 5am and this was at 1pm which is rare. The trainer lady was maybe 200 pounds obese. She was having the poor sap do some sort of cable curls but it was such lightweight he could of done 50 of them. It wasn’t just to learn either he did 3 sets of ten. I wish I could set him aside and tell him that you’re wasting time and money accomplishing nothing.
I've learned in many areas of life while guidance and advice from those with experience is helpful, YOU are your best and greatest advocate. While there are some great trainers at the commercial gyms, many of them are burned out and barely staying above water themselves. Those gyms are getting a huge chunk of that hourly rate. In turn, trainers are working long days and of course, how can one be effective and attentive when you are working that long? In reality it's hit and miss. Some people need guidance and motivation to get to the gym and work, but the key is finding the right one and an independent trainer, who of is course qualified is another alternative. The other element is does this person possess the highest standards of business and ethical integrity? After all, you are handing this person your finances and in essence, your destiny in regards to your fitness goals and overall well-being.
I've always been "in shape," never fat. I thought about becoming a personal trainer. I quickly realized that someone who was formerly fat, then got thin, was far more "marketable" and approachable. It's a fucked up world out there. All marketing and no substance.
I can't agree more. Once I asked a trainer to show me correct deadlift form, he bent his back and did a half rep, that was the last time I asked him for any advice. Fitness tubers like yourself and others are far more helpful.
I did not know it was like this in the USA I live in Norway where I believe it`s 3 years of university to become a personal trainer, at least that is what my trainer had. Brilliant girl taught me well.
I have talked to one who said he took the test without studding. But the one thing that concerns me is fake free training. Yesterday I have went to a gym (big box) who said that we could be trained but we have to give him a $500 deposit and for every lbs lost you'd get $25 back. Chances are not all your money will come back. Then he suggested the next thing that can be done is paying $59 a week and then you'd get your money back (same $25 goal). A big bate and switch.
Tracey Woolridge This is a rather newish concept I see at gyms as well. Not major gyms like Gold etc, not that I know of, but small business gyms etx. Its a great marketing and money making tactic. It does work if you actually follow through and loose the weight in the given time to get money back, but I seen 90% of people who done this fail because life throws things at you and you may have to quit gym ir take off etc and thats how they keep you cash. Rather enter local competetions or gym competetions where yoi win prizes and cash and all you do is put in like 25$ bucks or something. Way better and more productive.
Don't know how it is in the US or Canada but here in the Netherlands you actually have to get an education for Fitness A and fitness B which can take as long as a year to finish and then you can call yourself a personal trainer
Very much agreed. You can end up spending 1000's on PT's when a few books and YT vids will do the trick. Personally, I did a gym instructor course (a level down from full PT) in the UK. Cost me about £900 but worth every penny. Gave me the knowledge to train myself and was reassured the fitness industry is heavily regulated in the UK at least. You can't get insurance unless you have the right qualifications.
Dude... I know exactly what you're talking about! Years ago, and I didn't know better, I was mad skinny and this trainer I hired put me into his circuit training program without having me to build my foundation of strength. Same thing with the second trainer I hired where we tried weights but have no idea on how to build strength and nutrition. I had to learn on my own by experience, conducting my own research and hired the coach who KNOWS what they're talking about and aligns with my knowledge or what I need to improve. I took your fitness quiz and even though I have failed at 53%, I at least can say I have a decent amount of knowledge of fitness and nutrition and if I study some more, based on research and experimentation, I believe I can be the best independent trainer that anyone can receive great results from. Thanks for sharing your video!
Most PTs hold an online diploma . As a retired UK D32/33 vocational assesor I can assure people the diplomas are 99% toilet. To try and tell a wide variety of You Tube viewers do this or that, or eat this or that without knowing the medical history,lifestyle,age etc of a person is incredibly irresponsible and proves a total lack of ability as a PT
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Most personal trainers need a personal trainer
Haha very true.
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yup, I got a coach prepping me for comps, dealing with unmotivated people is killing my soul.
Well said man, after training in 40 different countries and gyms around the world over the last 3 years I've seen 2-3 PTs that actually knew what they were doing :/ Looks like a combination of low barrier to entry with cheap easy certifications + desperate gyms. It's sad to say this but most people are better off learning and training themselves
Mario, having traveled around the world, would you say you've encountered largely less than fit gym communities as are so common here in the USA? Here in the states you can walk on a beach for hours before you really see a fit guy. What has your experience been in your travels?
It's slightly better in Europe on the beach at least in Spain and Croatia. Having said that you still don't see natural ripped guys walking around, it's typically just skinny guys with above average genetics
+Mario Tomic I was going to make the very distinction you made - namely, that those who are lean enough to have abs are usually skinny guys.
By the way, your channel is one of the best on TH-cam. I love that you take a philosophical and psychological approach to fitness. It's my belief that both are essential to getting and staying in shape. Fitness and nutrition are great templates in which to form the virtues and self-governance, qualities necessary for success in life in all domains.
Keep up the great work - and In bocca al lupo:)
Very true. I was honestly being generous with the 90% figure.
@Truuf Huurtz Are you comparing knowing what to do in the gym as a recreational lifter to cooking for yourself??? 95 percent of people don't need to spend all their time looking at yt fitness videos to know what to do in the gym. THIS IS BASIC ASS SHIT....most people don't need to be exercise scientists. He was also talking about the personal trainers THEMSELVES, this videos was not really about weather one should get a personal trainer or not xDDD
I can't tell you how many times I see trainers at my gym not correcting improper form
What are the most common activities that you see in these cases of improper form?
sometimes it's a bit awkward when you see someone using improper form, because not everyone takes it very well, pending on the person, some will take it as a personal attack, others may genuinely appreciate it, but sometimes I just let them get on with it provided they are not doing anything incredibly stupid that could cause injury.
+Rolando MCNally well when you are a personal trainer it should be your job especially when the client is paying you
Truth is a must, you're not the first person I've heard this from. Is that a law? B/c I've known several personal trainers & they all write diets. Even the on-line trainers write out diet plans. How are they getting away with it?
Unless you are a hot chick, they're doing nothing for you
I was told by "fitness experts" I wasn't eating enough when trying to burn fat.
When I used to work at a gym I worked with a trainer to was in the ballpark of 300lbs, (although he had lost over 150lbs). Ill never forget him, one of the best trainers I had ever met. That's why if I ever went for a trainer I would go for someone who OVERCAME the problem I am trying to solve.
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Fulcanelli you are an idiot
@@Kus519 This fool thinks hes a fuckin joker
I must be blessed. When I got a PT at my gym she was almost half my age and didn't agree with me. She could have been my stubborn daughter. She didn't told me what I thought I needed but assessed my goals and my physical status and adapted to that. She pushed me and made me embrace different tools that I hadn't thought off. She kicked me in the right direction and made me not needing her in the end.
This is exactly what a PT should be for, teaching beginners how to work towards their goals in an optimal and safe way to a point of you being able to eventually do the programs without them or create your own programs
In the future , don’t abbreviate personal trainer lol. I keep reading physical therapist and get confused
One personal trainer I know started a 52 year old woman who never worked out in her life on 18 pound kettlebells. She ended up snapping something in her back. Most trainers don't understand the aging process. Not all of us are 20 year old men. He kept telling her it was a lack of motivation and she got hurt.
I did things like that when I started at 18. There needs to be a higher level of standards and a PT Certification should be akin to getting a CSCS (In my opinion). Far too many PTs suck
Ohh that poor woman.
the most legit personal trainers are strength and conditioning coaches
Yep.
When it comes to strength and conditioning. That is only one aspect of what the job of personal trainer entails.
Honestly, if you are dedicated and serious about getting working out, the best trainer out there is yourself. Take some time to experiment to understand what works and what doesn't.
dead on.
I love you.
hmu.
so true. exactly what I was thinking.
Yeah that's true. But I want to become one. Lol
Since most people have no clue about anatomy, using "yourself" as a trainer and "experimenting" is a bit of a reach.
I would never hire a personal trainer but I would have paid atleast 1000 euros for someone to share evidenced based science with me. Things like volume, frequency, intensity, resttimes, protein,...took me years to know what I know now and I could have made so much more progress along the way so in my own humble opinion just paying 1000 and get all the information right away would have been cheap.
So I do not need some overpriced man counting my reps but I do need all the science.
In my gym I was doing some Sumo Deadlift and the "personal trainer" approached me and said "He what are you doing" I said "Sumo Deadlift and he said "Oh you are doing it wrong" and he showed me how to do the Romanian Deadlift and I was like Hey I know thay but im doing a sumo not a romaninan deadlift and he didnt understand what I was telling lmao he hasnt talked to me again
not surprised at all,most personal trainers don't squat or deadlift, they think it's bad for your back.
+Clen O'Gallagher every time I see your profile I LOL
+Clen O'Gallagher lmao
Sigh...
Deadlifts are bad for my back unless I use one of those bars that is a square you stand inside. With a regular barbell I can't clear my knees without arching my back so I don't bother with deadlifts. Squats I do fine though. I don't like working my upper traps the same day as my back and legs anyway. I train those on arm days since they stabilize during any lift where you lift with your arms from a standing position.
The vast majority of trainers suck and lack the most basic understanding of what they’re trying to teach. I’m studying to be a personal trainer but my goal is to be the best I can possibly be.
Get a gym bro who has experience of 1-2 years. He's the BEST personal trainer you can ever ask for
Unfortunately, as far as my experience, people prefer a "likeable" trainer over a "knowledgable" one.
One of the trainers at a gym told me that I needed to eat every 2-3 hours, even needed to wake up to eat. I declined his offer to be my trainer. Now, he doesn't speak to me.
Lmao
Happens lots of protein sellers in india.
Bro what a dumbass 😂
having a out of shape trainer is like having a homeless person has your financial adviser.
Haha yup!
Yes and no. Think about Cus D'Amato he was an old out of shape geezer who trained Mike Tyson like some Yoda turned to the dark side.
undeadpresident that's different, there's something called background
Yes so if you have a trainer that doesn't know how to get himself in shape that's obviously a sign of incompetence but one who has been there done that knows what it takes but isn't in shape because they are old or just don't care then they can be good.
undeadpresident bullshit. I have seen people who are out of shape and train people all the time. Sometimes people just don't have the time or they majorly stressed out. This can cause fat increase.
At a gym I used to go to,a girl I went to school with trained with the same PT for 5 straight years,not only did she not drastically transform her body in those 5 years but she actually gained body fat.
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Im sorry.. but… 5 YEARS????????
@@dosomestuff1949 give or take yeah
@@mooviedude141 HOLY SHIT
Was she trying to gain or lose weight?
I go to LA Fitness in Houston, and I always see people getting nowhere with these trainers wasting their time and money. I've noticed a similar pattern where they take people and do the same workouts and using the same machines, even though people from all ages and sizes are participating in their service. I feel that if you have the motivation to go to the gym and work hard towards your goals, you should be able to do some research and do well on your own.
This is literally how it works in most gyms and the worst thing is: these gyms are the only ones that make decent profit.
Most people are just too lazy and ignorant we live in the age of knowledge people need to pick up the slack
Yep lol.
I've noticed this in my gym aswell man
I have the motivation to workout I just have no clue on form and I’m not good at learning it myself
Hey bro...let me back you up..Yeah, there are plenty of crap trainers...Let me share one incident: A lady came to the gym who was obese and had a big tummy. She asked the trainer how can she lose her belly fat and love handles & from the first day, the trainer made her sit in the "Ab Machine" and told her only to do Sit-ups until failure. hahaha..! Gosh..! "Fake People Everywhere, Be aware" :)
Ganesh Dhungana yea it's crazy how some of these trainers operate.
Ganesh Dhungana good to see guys from nepal into fitness...
Well honestly all trainers are just 'trainers' like only training affect these kind of things.
For example when someone is training with low energy, most trainers think about what could have gone wrong however they only think about trainingrelated subjects. Obviously eating Sugar, not getting enough sleep,...are much more logical causes.
Gotta lose that body fat. Spot reduction doesn't work. But we know this.
I used to say that all my certification did was give me credibility. I didn't learn much new about actual training through obtaining the certification.
When I first started working out in my local gym, I got a 'free personal advise and routine' to start things off. A skinny guy, maybe around 20 years old, gave me a full body routine, with one isolation exercise for each muscle, and around 20 minutes of cardio. I was on this routine for months, without any progress whatsoever, obviously. Finally I realized I was wasting my time and started doing my own research. 2 years, about 20 lbs of muscle and pretty much all of Sean's videos later, I finally made the progress I so desperately needed. If only a competent personal trainer helped me kick things off, my size right now would be significantly better.
Good stuff man and congrats on the gains.
Why do I get the feeling you're lying about this "experience", if you did perform the exercises consistenly you would have gotten stronger regardless.
This is so true. People that are ignorant on how to reach their goals in the gym are given false information by the personal trainer and they get shit results and come back for more help as they waste their time and money. Most of the time its a scam for the business to make more money.
Yep!
I once met a personal trainer who said she goes to another gym and has a personal trainer there. 🤦♂️
Pretty much describes every personal trainer at planet fitness
This is why they have "No personal training" signs all over their gym. They don't want a legit person with knowledge who actually cares coming in and showing them up. I just ignore the signs.
I remember a long time ago me and a friend signed up for a rugby team so we decided to get in the gym to bulk up and get stronger so we wouldn't get broken in half on the pitch. The trainer at the gym came up to us after we'd done some deadlifts and said that deadlifts were bad for you and a waste of time!
When I transitioned from bodyweight workouts to weight training, I was introduced to a chubby trainer who made me do like 15 upper body exercises and said I should be in the gym every day. I was run-down afterwards and fucked up the next day. I skipped gym for a week, googled good beginner workout programs, and returned to the gym a week later on a different schedule when I wouldn't run into him.
Absolutely 100% right. My stepmother is overweight and im on the route of becoming a personal trainer but i read alot and within 4 months i have gotten muscle and lower body fat. I laughed at the workout she was given by a personal trainer. It was alot of isolation exercises and the package was expensive and progress towards her goal were non existent. I understand its a business but being hoenst and giving the customer the best and truthful information builds a trainers recognition in the long run instead of the short term success by cheating people
When I was unemployed I took a job at a Goodlife gym as a PT because I wanted to supplement EI. They basically hired me on the spot and I spent almost a week watching all of their propaganda/sales-rapist-in-training videos. My personal favourite was the one that teaches you how to "overcome objections" and dissect their finances to find ways to con them into buying $600-$7000 worth of personal training (they pressured you to sell only a years worth and no less). The biggest kick in the ass is that they charge you hundreds of dollars for a weekend training course to be "certified".
I quit on the last day of training when they were forcing me to go around the gym and trying talk to people. The regional fitness manager didn't like the fact that I refused to go talk to people who were already working out because I could tell that they either knew quite well what they were doing and/or they didn't want to be interrupted.
Can confirm. Was a personal trainer years ago. The trainers I worked with were a waste of money. I was a waste of money. Thankfully, not many people wasted their money on me;)
At least you admit it lol
I see soooo many trainers counting reps haha 😂
“I don't count my sit-ups; I only start counting when it starts hurting because they’re the only ones that count.”
- Muhammad Ali
Facts 💯
@Andrei Georgescu no…no it isn’t
that quote is so dumb😂😂
@@weirdflex8158its really not. The point is that getting your muscles “hurting” (close to failure) is far more important than doing an arbitrary amount of reps
My uncle who is 60 years old went to the gym for the first time, the trainer told him to do pushups and pullups. He unfortunately tore his chest muscles. It's ridiculous.
i agree 100% with you! most pts dont have the knowledge, im a pt my self and i hate seing other pts doing the wrong stuff!
Yep, and the PT's who know their stuff will agree with the video so thanks.
+Sean Nalewanyj that's true,
anytime
PTs are Physical Therapists. Any personal trainer who uses that title without the degree is someone who doesn't know what they're talking about. They overestimate their knowledge to not even grasp that.
Deana Duquesne
actually i would say that physical therapist are a waste of time and money, they dont give you anything that a pt that actually knows how to train can give you
dor You’re wrong.
Personal trainer is just a spotter that we over pay.
Spot on, been a trainer for 15 years. 2 sessions a week for $30-$180 per hour is a waste. The focus should be on an all encompassing plan. Nutrition, regular fitness, strength and cardio. Corrections flexibility as well as proper sleep stress and water. Find what works for the person to make it habits and standards.
Totally agree as a trainer of 52 years old 30 years of training myself passed my life to learn and its never done but the first and more important thing is to educate people to do the right form with the right weight to avoid any injury but unfortunatly you see so much trainers doesn't know even the basic movement and don't have the knowledge to train people at different age or overweight etc
I was a PT at LA fitness starting out. Everyone has to start somewhere. I am not disagreeing with saying that LA fitness is a rip-off (it is). However, our LA fitness was ranked #1 in the nation for personal training. We had the highest client retention, best results and reviews, best business practices, and highest sales. Aside from that, you have to understand that not all clients follow your advice. I had one client who worked with me 3 times a week for a full year (yes, that was expensive). I gave her nutrition advice, but she ignored it all the time. She dragged through her workouts, only wanted to do the easy stuff, never wanted to lift heavy (even though she was more than capable), and complained about everything. You have to remember that these personal trainers are only spending maybe an hour and a half to a few hours at most with these people each week. We are not in control of what they decide to go home and do. I swear, I could try to expose her to as much intrinsic motivation and try to get her to focus on her health. However, it would go in one ear, and right out the other.
i went to a trainer once . booked a session saw them they were not in shape. i cancelled it infront of them . they said why. i said your not in shape why should o take advice from you and walked off
Strength training, an afternoon to learn and a lifetime to master.
The 4 to 5 days a week recommendation regarding cardio is not aimless. The ACSM recommends at least 30 minutes of moderate intensity aerobic exercise 5 days per week or 3 days per week of vigorous intensity exercise totaling at least 75 minutes per week.
As a trainer, I actually agree with everything he said. It is much easier to pass a test than it is to actually teach others
I can definitely understand your sentiment. I have only been around few personal trainers and the prices I would agree on, are a bit overpriced. I have most of my fitness training experience from the military as an instructor. The dynamics out here are something else from what I see. I see misleading information and lack of much guidance except to sales funnel a person into purchasing programs or supplements. I will make sure to be aware of peers and to ensure my clients are getting exactly what they deserve. Great video.
Absolutely spot on! It's disgusting that the fitness industry has become like this with low level crap trainers.
Sean i know this is an old post so am not sure if you will monitor responses, of course you are not wrong and it is good advice to suggest people look at what they get for their money. I am in my 60’s and am currently doing a number of courses on line just for my own knowledge, Gym instructor, Personal Trainer, GP referral, Lower back pain management, and Nutrition for athletic performance. They all make it quite clear you should not attempt to give advice you are not qualified to give, i know some good people but also some lazy ones who use this as an income stream whilst doing something else. As you say it does not require a degree but in fairness the content of the courses are useful.
This is a great video.I've made my living as a personal trainer for nearly 10 years. I agree personal training certifications aren't often worth the paper on which they're printed. And I also agree that most personal trainers are pretty bogus. It's quite typical to see a personal trainer put grandma up on an inverted bosu ball and hand her a kettle bell instead of doing essential movements.
With that said, it's staggering how many otherwise perfectly intelligent people simply don't get the biomechanics of exercise. These people, if left on their own, would surely injure themselves. Plus there is an enormous community of people who would never train if they didn't have a standing appointment with a trainer who walks them and motivates then through each workout. This demographic needs us. The rest can learn what they need to know by coming to channels like this. Fitness isn't rocket science. People are not unfit because of lack of knowledge in most cases.
Sounds like you're in the 10% :) Keep up the good work man.
PTs are not going to tell someone who's responsible for their income the truth. That achieving their dream physique will take years of consistent HARD training and strict dieting. And they have a long, long way to go with many obstacles ahead.
the reason i want to become a personal trainer is because i love working out, and i know how hard it is to get results.
90%? Very conservative. Its closer to 98%. One in 50 PTs actually knows how tf to train clients for compound lifts
Thankfully this isn’t me as a trainer 😅 we’re too expensive to be slack tbh. It’s our job to be fitter/more well informed than the average person. I feel so guilty if I don’t give my clients 100%
I currently have a personal trainer, I am 63 years old and in pretty good shape but started lifting at 58 when I hurt my shoulder helping my Dad move. I found out my shoulders have a pre dispostion for rotater cuff injuries- I was born with it. Between physical therapy and recovering, I was out of commission for well over a year and when I started getting back into it, realized that there was too much information out there to the point I did not know what I was doing. So I hired a personal trainer, and am learning a lot. I am not looking for a some kind of senior wellness program. I am capable of lifting without limitations but know a 63 year old body will not respond the same as a 20 year old, yet I have no interest in some kind of "senior aerobics" program. I have discovered that everyone is built and responds differently. If you do your research and have the time and money, personal trainer is a good way to go. Some of these online trainers are pretty good. Some I am not to sure about and it is hard to put a one size fits all program together. Sean does an excellent job, but one cannot say the same thing about a lot of youtube trainers.
one day I went to the gym and there was that lady who works there as a personal trainer she was overweight even I looked way better than her in the shape and yet she was trying to convince me that she can make me lose weight
A lot of it is marketability too, gen pop naturally gravitates to bs training styles like circuit training for strength workouts and any kind of flashy ab workout or anything with the word functional in it. I just started as a pt in a big box gym and your naturally made to be very desperate at the start so sometimes i find myself saying things ik just arnt true but its what i think the Client needs to hear in order to be more open to training. Im trying to put a stop to that tho.
At the gym i go to the personal trainer stopped me in the middle of my work out and im a girl so at first I thought he was going to shit on me or say something slick. But he said "you look like you know what youre doing." Like that was nice of him to say but I was literally on my 6th rep doing elevated reverse lunges and he went out of his way to get me to take my earphones out just to say that
I am a beginner and thought about a personal trainer but I have never been impressed with the gym trainers. They are either not in the shape I would aspire to be or they don't seem to into their training sessions. They literally stand there with a clip board. The only good reason to hire one is if you need someone to push you. For me, it's hard to push myself on my own but that's something I'd rather work on instead of paying 70 bucks/hour for someone may not be training me right.
Try a different gym
Wow here in india an experienced trainer costs 8 bucks an hour hahha
Yes, totally agree. I am self taught, and I also took the weekend certified personal trainer courses, and half of the people in the class just want to get certified, but they don't even train or workout themselves. I was like wtf. How can people get certified when they don't know what training is all about? I spend so much time at the gym and I try to read and learn about fitness so at least I have basic understanding about training.
A trainer who is in bad shape either doesn't know what he's doing or doesn't care about what he's doing.
There are several reasons why not you're losing approx 1 kilo weekly that may be outside of the trainer's remit. Not following your nutritional advice but swearing that you are. Hitting the pub big time at least 5 times weekly and swearing that you're not. Food binges late at night and not realising how often you're doing this. Middle to late-middle-aged party animals who cannot understand how they can work out 3 times weekly and nothing's happening despite being hungover for the majority of the week.
Watching this helps a lot as I’m passionate about becoming a personal trainer and helping people transform and change their life’s and just help people. This shows me things I need to avoid and I’m glad my mindset was far from all these trainers advice anyways and more focused on helping the person transform their lives vs just get them to lift a weight
There really are some stinkers out there. I'm certainly no expert but it's shocking. I wanted to learn as I went, but when I asked questions I was told just do the exercises. The protein window is my favourite piece of outdated advice.
The protein window is real though
My PT is the same age as me so we have the same interests. We actually ended up becoming friends and we talk a lot at the gym. But I definitely do not need him to train me anymore. He gives great tips, especially emphasizing the mind-muscle connection. I’ve made a load of progress but I think that’s mostly my dedication. I’m not the type of guy that needs motivation from others to work hard.
You don't need a personal trainer, just someone who's willing to take an afternoon of there time to teach you the science of strength training...if of course they know anything about it.
thats like anything in life you can learn it but its taking the time to do so such as building a car or cutting your own hair but of course we probably would never do so becuz its time consuming so we have to pay for that other person time / manor labor to help fix or show us
I’m a personal trainer and totally agree with everything in this video. Most trainers are clueless.
Training for 15 years and never paid a personal trainer. Yea made mistakes but that's the journey.
And learned a lot and still learning
100% truth. this whole video is almost every gym i've ever been in. it is so frustrating. the worst. i hate them alllllllll. i've never understood how they all look so awful and people don't see that. how can you get fitness advice from someone so out of shape?? oh god i could just go on forever. they're so uneducated. i wish more people had your mindset. and yes this whole video was great advice to new people looking to make their life better and healthier. great work👌🏼
This is actually why I decided to become a CPT. I have a lot of knowledge and experience, and I love teaching people about nutrition and resistance training. It is incredible how much misinformation is out there. I aim to make a difference in the way that they want and need, not in the ways I see idiots in polo shirts training them.
My trainer told me eat 2 meals a day, maybe even 1 to lose weight, he said no need to count calories, and that (because I'm vegan) I should get protein from animals and that plants aren't made for human consumption
Good advice as always Sean, pisses me off to see people looking the same after three months of expensive persona training
I know this is an older video, but 2 things:
1) I’m really digging all of the content on this channel and I really appreciate how you go about providing it, keep it coming!
2) I’m a trainer and when I saw this, I had the intention of watching and beIng pissed off. But honestly, it’s all so true. The majority of my personal training has been at a commercial gym and I always strived to be better. But over the years I’ve met plenty of new trainers that had no business trying to sell training. It can be potentially be really bad at gyms also because it’s all about making the monthly quota and being known as that trainer with “all the clients”, which can set you up for failure if you’re not giving enough attention to clients without burning out and getting lazy and doing the exact shit that you describe in this video lol
Cpt tried to tell me I was taking creatine wrong. Said dry scooping and chugging water and food after was a waste of creatine because it had to be dissolved. Then flexed her credentials and implied I was an idiot. Checked her social media and she had a quarter rep squat pr with 285lbs on the bar 😭. Girl was prolly 120lbs didn’t even have a physique.
I've had friends that have Incorporated the use of personal trainers. And yes the training was less than optimal but they did get them to at least go to the gym and at least start to develop a routine. Basically they were paying for a workout buddy. And for that it worked fine.
Been there and done that. Years ago, I watched a "personal trainer" sip a dunkins coffee while the client was knocking out situps that looked like a fish out of water.
I could not agree more. I've been working as a personal trainer for 20 years and I can't tell you the number of trainers I've encountered that are just lazy and have no desire to educate themselves and provide a good service. I did a video similar to this on my channel. I work with special populations so I always have to be on top the latest research. I've always said the day a personal trainer thinks they know everything and isn't willing to learn is when they need to get out of the industry. Great video.
I'm a skinny guy and told a trainer that I wanted to build muscle. He had me do body weight circuit training until I threw up... Never again.
Yep I see stuff like that all the time.
Maybe you are just in unexpectedly bad shape worse than the trainer ever saw to begin. I've seen people throw up half way through what would normally be called a warm-up. They were just in really, really bad shape.
To be quite honest man guys in prison do like 2-3 hours of body weight movements nonstop and I mean just look at the results I'm talking about straight 45 min nonstop push-ups body weight squats dips and chin-ups literally doing that alone would turn you into a monster ... and I mean 45 min push ups 45 min squats 45 chin ups 45 min dips every day combined w burpees and running throughout the week that sounds crazy but I promise you if you could do that you would be massive ... I'm a personal trainer who knows what he's talking about and that guy maybe just didn't know how to apply it but a Calisthenics routine is actually for a beginner probably the best thing you could do
Chris Bellville yeah. Volume work definitely builds muscle.
Worst advice ever.
2-3 hours of body weight movements every single day? As a (skinny) beginner? The worst thing is: push ups and dips...1,5 hours of chest, triceps (and shoulder).
Honestly; all a beginner needs is 1-3 sets of plus minus 15 reps per musclegroup and this is supported by science.
Unless if you are going to increase the volume overtime; where is the progressive overload?
I’m a beginner PT and I wanted to say thank you for the information because I wanna make sure I’m doing well as a PT and I wanted to make that I doing something right or if I’m doing something wrong I’ve done some of the mistakes you mentioned in your video and I’m definitely gonna try and fix my approach thank you very much this video has been incredibly helpful
So many trainers pushing Super Sets for beginners and dumbbell exercises standing on that half inflatable ball thingy.
the moment the word bosu ball comes out of a trainers mouth just assume everything else is bullshit
At my gym there is a personal trainer who is obese herself (my guess is 130kg @ 1.7m).... Now im not trying to judge... Maybe she used to be in good shape once upon a time (in her 50s), but it really hurts the average view on personal trainers lol
I dont understand why there are still some people training with fat trainer. Not motivating to see fat trainer. What skills or lifestyle are u going to learn with them,?
Only motivating thing is to never get in that shape lol
Same reason you listen to a sick doctor who smokes. They know a lot more than you. If they were NEVER fit before, then there's a problem...
Interesting. I believe that trainers should definitely pursue a healthy lifestyle. However, I also realizes that sometimes there are underlying medical issues that may hinder the composition of a trainer. Maybe if you took time to get to know her she would share more about her journey with you... Just a thought :)
Smitty Werbenjagermanjensen LOOOL
Completely agree. I inwardly (and sometimes outwardly) cringe and groan when I hear some of the absolute shit that the clueless PTs at my gym say.
Just keep the headphones in at all times...
Giving the video a Thumbs up. I'm a personal trainer, and I agree with everything you said, besides one thing... sometimes you have clients who are overweight, and elderly with tons of joint issues. I have a client who can't do any sort of squats because of joint issues, and can't do more than 10 minutes of cardio.. sometimes those isolation movement's are the only movement's they can do, and you need to build them up to other movements and more cardio after giving them a solid nutrition plan to help take some weight off the achey joints
nailed it on the head. i have around 10 personal trainers in my gym. 9 out of those 10 dont even remotely look like physical/personal trainers. i really feel sorry for the people wasting their money on these guys. this trend is across the board. i went to a friends gym and the same story over there as well.
I've helped train people and most just don't care about their health and or don't have the drive. A PT can't fix that, only your form if you have the motivation to do it.
i know exactly what your talking about!! im recently going to Sochi and a while back my friend and i got offered for a free consultation. and while we were going through the workout, the things that Ive learned from NASM ( certification) I've been giving Qs to my friend and the "certified" trainer wasn't focusing on his form. i felt that i was the actual trainer
I see most of the trainers at my gym stand there talking to their clients as they walk on a treadmill and when using machines or weights they rarely correct bad form if they even recognize it, never set up the machines properly all the while discussing current events..
I could not agree more.
Our gym personal’s trainer tells everyone to eat chicken breast and green beans to lose weight and to add sweet potatoes if bulking lol
This is so god damn true. You just summed up all three PT’s at my local gym. All of their clients look physically vulnerable.
Don't get a gym trainer. Get a private trainer that has years of experience.
I’ve been going to this little local gym for 1 year. I’ve witnessed a personal trainer train the same 5-6 people. None of them have made any noticeable progress in either weight loss or general athleticism.
Before I watch this I’ll say I think 90% of personal trainers are a waste of money because they don’t really try to get their clients in shape because they feel their clients won’t need them anymore.
I see it in my gym anyway. Most of the personal trainer’s clients in there look EXACTLY the same after 6-9 months
My people tell me they are happy with results . I can’t force any one to make a change I help guide them to better eating and habits with great work outs .
I saw a personal trainer with a client at gym today. I usually go at 5am and this was at 1pm which is rare. The trainer lady was maybe 200 pounds obese. She was having the poor sap do some sort of cable curls but it was such lightweight he could of done 50 of them. It wasn’t just to learn either he did 3 sets of ten. I wish I could set him aside and tell him that you’re wasting time and money accomplishing nothing.
I've learned in many areas of life while guidance and advice from those with experience is helpful, YOU are your best and greatest advocate. While there are some great trainers at the commercial gyms, many of them are burned out and barely staying above water themselves. Those gyms are getting a huge chunk of that hourly rate. In turn, trainers are working long days and of course, how can one be effective and attentive when you are working that long? In reality it's hit and miss.
Some people need guidance and motivation to get to the gym and work, but the key is finding the right one and an independent trainer, who of is course qualified is another alternative. The other element is does this person possess the highest standards of business and ethical integrity? After all, you are handing this person your finances and in essence, your destiny in regards to your fitness goals and overall well-being.
I've always been "in shape," never fat. I thought about becoming a personal trainer. I quickly realized that someone who was formerly fat, then got thin, was far more "marketable" and approachable. It's a fucked up world out there. All marketing and no substance.
I can't agree more. Once I asked a trainer to show me correct deadlift form, he bent his back and did a half rep, that was the last time I asked him for any advice.
Fitness tubers like yourself and others are far more helpful.
I did not know it was like this in the USA I live in Norway where I believe it`s 3 years of university to become a personal trainer, at least that is what my trainer had. Brilliant girl taught me well.
I have talked to one who said he took the test without studding. But the one thing that concerns me is fake free training. Yesterday I have went to a gym (big box) who said that we could be trained but we have to give him a $500 deposit and for every lbs lost you'd get $25 back. Chances are not all your money will come back. Then he suggested the next thing that can be done is paying $59 a week and then you'd get your money back (same $25 goal). A big bate and switch.
Tracey Woolridge This is a rather newish concept I see at gyms as well. Not major gyms like Gold etc, not that I know of, but small business gyms etx.
Its a great marketing and money making tactic. It does work if you actually follow through and loose the weight in the given time to get money back, but I seen 90% of people who done this fail because life throws things at you and you may have to quit gym ir take off etc and thats how they keep you cash.
Rather enter local competetions or gym competetions where yoi win prizes and cash and all you do is put in like 25$ bucks or something. Way better and more productive.
Don't know how it is in the US or Canada but here in the Netherlands you actually have to get an education for Fitness A and fitness B which can take as long as a year to finish and then you can call yourself a personal trainer
respect man, you give so much information and it's all free, respect!
Appreciate it man, thanks.
I am a personal trainer and try my best to avoid these pitfalls.
Very much agreed. You can end up spending 1000's on PT's when a few books and YT vids will do the trick. Personally, I did a gym instructor course (a level down from full PT) in the UK. Cost me about £900 but worth every penny. Gave me the knowledge to train myself and was reassured the fitness industry is heavily regulated in the UK at least. You can't get insurance unless you have the right qualifications.
Dude... I know exactly what you're talking about! Years ago, and I didn't know better, I was mad skinny and this trainer I hired put me into his circuit training program without having me to build my foundation of strength. Same thing with the second trainer I hired where we tried weights but have no idea on how to build strength and nutrition. I had to learn on my own by experience, conducting my own research and hired the coach who KNOWS what they're talking about and aligns with my knowledge or what I need to improve. I took your fitness quiz and even though I have failed at 53%, I at least can say I have a decent amount of knowledge of fitness and nutrition and if I study some more, based on research and experimentation, I believe I can be the best independent trainer that anyone can receive great results from. Thanks for sharing your video!
This is, in my opinion, why it is so important to at least have a good screening process when gyms hire trainers
Most PTs hold an online diploma .
As a retired UK D32/33 vocational assesor I can assure people the diplomas are 99% toilet.
To try and tell a wide variety of You Tube viewers do this or that, or eat this or that without knowing the medical history,lifestyle,age etc of a person is incredibly irresponsible and proves a total lack of ability as a PT