What was Ford thinking?!
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- What was Ford thinking?!
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People will argue over the design but can we just appreciate that Ford kept the v8?
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It’s a Camaro
I could be on board with that if they hadn't locked the computer and made it untuneable
I don't like how much it looks like a camaro
@@tn-s197 its gonna be tuneable…
I would still probably take an s550 but having seen this new car in person I still think it’s pretty good looking
id take this s550 isnt even like muscle car in looks
@@rks-bh6tbmeh s550 is fairly muscle car esq. more than the new Camaros for sure.
I love my s550 but that dark horse looks crazy
It's good looking because it's basically the same car as the S550! Different front and rear plus dash but if you look at the rest of the car, it's the same dam car, even has the same seats!! I'll keep my paid off S550.
@@rks-bh6tb Mustang was never a muscle car, except the Shelby versions.
In my opinion nothing beats the looks of the 67-68's Fastback Mustang, such a gorgeous car!!! 🤩🤩🤩🤩😎
Nostalgia can sometimes get the best of ya :)
True best looking ever❤
I loved the 2006 mustang, it looks soo similar to the original, i wish Ford would have played closer to the same guidelines that they used in that one since this is possibly the very last REAL mustang we will ever get
Oh it will be
Can you see my video?
It would have been nice to see a foxbody redesign this time around-
Thats why I like challengers, they all look the same.
You are SO right about the headlights and the side view, I also share your opinion in the digital dash, it may sound dumb but just these things may prevent me from selling my S550 and buying the new one.
Another S550 owner here...100% agree too Jorge
Technically, the Mustang is a Pony car, which is sort of a cross between a Sports car and a Muscle car. So, a sleeker/sportier appearance is ok and has been part of the Mustang's heritage.
Also, the interior is a callback to the Fox Body Mustangs of the 80's and early 90's.
Great video as always.
Finally, someone else who see's the foxbody design cues in the interior
I mean I guess but I'm looking at images of the 1965 Mustang and the edges on the side look much straighter and the back is not rounded off. The whole thing is more square like but with the fast back greenhouse.
@@sarcasticsaber8902 That was the style then. To compare a 2024 design to 1965 isn't really fair or meaningful.
Look at how different every generation of Mustang has been, style-wise.
@@lj5190 True. But I say this because Dodge always kept that 1970 look for the Challenger. I guess I just like modern takes on classic cars.
@@sarcasticsaber8902 How many generations of the Challenger have there been vs the Mustang?
I love what you did with the headlamps. Totally brings back the S197 vibe which is the best modern looking Mustang in my opinion. The size of the grille is the issue for me glad that you reduced it. For the lower part of the bumper I'm not entirely statisfied. I doesn't look bad but it could be implemented in a better way, I just dont know in what way. But overall in looks better than the current state, hopefully we could get something like this on its facelift
The headlamps are garbage. They look like honda accords. The previous generation mustang headlamps looked fierce and aggressive like that was unique to mustangs and if you see those headlamps, you knew it was a mustang that’s on you. It gives off that fuck around and find out energy, that aggressiveness. The headlamps are the eyes of the car and it just looks like every other modern day car. Also the body as well, just has the curves of a Camaro. I love mustangs and I love what they did with the interior and technology but the exterior is a huge downgrade imo
Bigger grille means more air.
Speaking of the headlamp shapes, compare the nose view of a 66 and a 67. You'll notice the brows are perky and alert looking on the 65-66 and 67- goes very sedate. Somber. Lower on the outer ends and higher inward.
Emojis wise it's more like 😈😼 vs 😒😑😒
The 67+ looks high or something. Or just tired of ppls shit and ready to go home
The 65 and 66 look fresh on the farm and ready to go. Which is fitting lmao.
You can Eleanor a 67+ all day long but the gt350s look in it to win it and ready to play sorry. And any design cues you can take from them, do it.
I agree on s197.
That was actually some good touches the front end. I really wish they kept the gloss black decklid. Having the taillights and decklid aligned in a black
I really think they mastered the design in the 15-17 body's. The new body is nice but I still prefer the previous ones.
Absolutely. The 2015-2017 is king. The 2018 front headlight refresh was atrocious. The Shelby gt350 has the best overall design which is my dream car. This new one is good looking. Definitely better than the 2018 refresh but to me the side profile on the new one looks too smooth and looks unfinished. It’s missing sculpted body lines especially on the doors but overall I like the s650.
I had no idea so many people hated the new mustang, I honestly prefer it over the European looking sports car that S550 was (saying this as an European). My favourite generation of the Mustang is S197 because It was screaming "MUSCLE!" just like Dodge Challenger. I'm happy Ford tried to bring back the muscle design.
The 2015-17 S550 was perfect. It was only in 2018 it started getting too European
to quote my friend on the discord, it looks like it was one of those gta 5 knock off of the 2015 mustang
@@tyler_bt3326 I sort of disagree with that because in my opinion the facelift S550 was a bit less european looking. Like, I think RTR Spec 3 and Mach 1 are great.
I have a 2014 5.0 in grabber blue. Looking to upgrade to the new dark horse
Only the S197 mustang looks good to me. Everything after it looks rather hideous in comparison.
My idea of the perfect modern Mustang look is one that has all the best parts of the previous Mustangs that existed before and their details. The front end of the 2011-2014 era in my opinion looked the best not only because it brought back the old school Mustang look in the modern era (the 2005-2009 front end did it first), but because it was improved and also had variations with the bottom end of the front being for example the GT500 with it's connections making a hexagon like shape, or the other variation of the GT with the Darth Vader like look with a frown at the bottom, kinda like the Mitsubishi Evo X, the Skyline R34 also has a similar front (these are my favorite front ends of some of my fav cars that just look pissed off or cool) I love the big C/hockey stick in the side profile of those Mustangs, it gave it personality and the cars own identity and also made so designers could actually create cool looking stickers shaped around that deisng like the actual hockey stick sticker or the full long c shape sticker that ran across the whole door, they also made the intakes that opened up in the rear that looked cool (now reminds me of the Ford GT too modern and classic) I also loved the bog wide body kits that gave those lines even more accents, even the Need For Speed movie with that silver Mustang was awesome looking because of that. Love the pissed off looking front end. A modern version of the old school tailights mixed with modern tailights of the 2015 and even the S650 would look good. Interior design can go whatever direction as long as it's connected to a Mustangs identity with better quality and a clean look overall, that's the ultimate look of a modern yet retro classic Mustang for me.
base model interior looking like the new s-class/c-class with split dual screen with the two screens spaced out profile.
That Black Mustang is sick!!
Nice redo. Would be interesting to see what you would do on the Interior to have the new tech with the classic twin-cockpit design. Also interesting to see that with the front chin, you disconnected the lower splitters from the grill - I thought you usually wanted there to be a flow or connection between these lines - maybe you did this here because of the Pony car instead of Sports car mantra.
I prefer the old headlights and lower part of the grille, but the new upper grille looks a lot better
Really love what you did with the redesign. Makes it look soooooo much better boxing off those angles. 👍🏻
IMO, the front end of the Dark Horse is the best looking Mustang front end (of the current generation) by far!
In my personal opinion I feel like the redesign wasn't an improvement in the end. Reasons why is because when looking at the points made earlier in the video like for example, the rear quarter panel line connecting to the front end headlights. That connection was ruined when the shape was changed pointing down instead of going with the connection it had before. The other redesigned part I didn't like was the "snake/cobra like fangs" at the bottom front end of the Mustang. I always thought that they look cooler at an angle, it actually looks like fangs and more like the previous Mustangs that have that cool front end look, making them straight looks like 2 buck teeth and kinda silly in my personal opinion. I do like the improvement of the grill itself tho, even tho it makes it look the same as the previous Mustang, but as they say, why fix what isn't broken. The rear end redesign from the previous video in my opinion was great, it could also look great if they made it look like the 2018 or the GT500 diffuser mixed with the S650 rear trunk and tailights angle, it looks super unique and cool and actually relates back to the old school Mustangs insane rear angle. I also agree about the side profile hockey stick design, that's one of the main design details I haven't seen in any other car as well as the Mustang and I miss it, it really gave the side profile a unique and cool look from top to bottom (I love the S550 line that runs with the front into the door handle and connects with the rear, so having the hockey stick design at the bottom connect it all would looks sick overall). Finally the interior, this part I have issues with deciding what I like, overall I don't mind, I just want a clean looking cool interior that's high quality, I will say the S650 has the clean and quality look, but it is missing the personal style, but then again, they did go for an actual Foxbody look so it's a lie to say that it doesn't have any relation to any previous Mustang at all. Still would love to see future designs have a better combination of that and simply keep the clean and quality grade with it.
Tbh I immediately fell in love with this mustang besides the rear tail lights, but ig its reminiscent of the angle the 68 fast back had that we all love. I hope IF there's one more stang, it's the perfect modern design that everyone can agree on. Auto brands don't seem to take customers opinions into consideration, design wise.
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Outgoing Mustang is the most beautiful one since the ones from the 60s.
Beautiful Mustang !!!
Excellent PS work!!!
I really did not like the front of the new Mustang. The main grill portion just looked too big with that black area sitting underneath. It looks much more balanced and feels more like a muscle car with that area being paint matched. Great redesign!
Siempre un bonito trabajo amigo! Podrías hablar del E-cockpit de Peugeot más moderno para mí. Un saludo desde España. A seguir bien!
The front reminds me of a truck, but it still does look cool
Even though so many people are complaining about it you already know mustangs is gonna sell like crazy like always 😂
yeah dude, you fixed it. im so glad i got one of the last s550's.
I’m of the belief that all cars have gotten too big and expensive. 30k for a base level 4 cylinder.
Technology that’s new is expected to be expensive, it’s a given. However, the mustang base trims are still proven tech made cheap through industrialization.
Adjusted for inflation, a base level 1965 mustang amounts to 25k today. Then again, safety laws are stringent to the point of costs, however, I’m still in belief of the suits who came through nepotism trying to jack up the price since selections of affordable sports/muscle cars are nigh extinct and legacy badges equals jack up prices.
Great video, I'd like to see you redesign the dashboard of the 2024 using the structure of the 2023 dashboard. In other words, no giant iPad style screen, instead, more of an S-Class style separation of 2 screens while maintaining the dual cowl style of the previous Mustang...
Yeah your redesign looks much better. Nice👏
Can someone tell me what's up with the 2 lil light's just inside the grill in line with the daytime running lights.
No one seems to know what's going on with them.
You probably said what was Ford thinking with the Mach E, but that car as actually been a large success
I remember when the 2015 gt came out. 32k for the base and 36k for premium.
yea these things are way overpriced.
@@vulturex3265 especially since they use the same engine.
Happily drove GT premium of that year with xpipe and upsetting looking back how should have bought it
Then Dodge said ahhh Demon 170 as a last hoorah
wow your rededign is so much better
Too bad that the screens for the dash are not integrated inside the dash.
Wow, top shit! 😎 I would love to see some 'limited edition' with analog gauge cluster... this would be awesome I believe! Cheers🍻
Oh bro, u made it much more muscle. Thanx. I really like it.
The change in the lower bumper disconnected the line from the grill. I don't think a vertical line works but perhaps a line that follows the grill line angle. Otherwise, the redesign is on point. The change in headlight design reminds me of the 99 Mustang - A nice touch in my opinion.
That is one BEAUTIFUL Camaro....! The Tesla dash was the icing on the cake..!
They basically went from an autobot to the deception look, just Transformations everywhere😩
Damn shame we can't mix and match... because I would take the Dark Horse front and sides, and 2018 rear and interior (I am not a fan of the "tablet screen" at all, especially because it seems to be touchpad-only which is distracting as hell during driving)
But I love this redesign.
I love seeing your redesigns, but all I can say is less talkey talkey, more designy! When you talk and talk about the cars you redesign, the redesign suffers. Case in point, this video.
Man you're a conceptual design master! One thought, you made the "wings" on the front more vertical, how about flipping the angle? More like the 2017 Shelby Super Snake. One of my all time favs btw 🤓. They matched the grille shape but opposite on the bottom so it had an oval'ish shape. (Blue Oval??) it has the wings that complemented the front fascia. Just some thoughts. Love your channel!
The 1965 mustang have the smaller tail lights so they took 65 and 69 stang tail lights and combined them
Your re-design of the rear is better. My bet is that Mustang's people would say it looks too much like prior models, and so they felt they needed to do something "different". Different is not always better.
bruh the 3 stripe tail lights r one of the legendary things since the start, its a sin to change it.. you gotta agree right..
The two screens would be cheaper to build and repair or replace from a maintenance point of view! Great videos my friend!
Awesome!
Yes you did great job. I would definitely choose your redesign.
My biggest issue is the headlamps. The old ones made the mustangs look fierce and aggressive looking with the three bars and circle, plus the body shape and lines gave it that aggressive look of “fuck around and find out” and when you see those lights, you knew it was a mustang that’s on your ass. The front looks like the new Honda accord with a pony badge slapped on it. The interior does look phenomenal tho and I really like it. Either way I’ll still pick this mustang, I’m just glad we still get the coyote V8s when everyone else cucked out due to govt regulations
DEFINITELY tapping into the Fox body era with this version. Would not be surprised to see them temporarily drop the vertical 3 bar tail lights for a retro 80s. OR there will be a special edition…perhaps even an SVO edition finally!
I like your changes to the front of the 2024 Mustang!
Losing the toggle switches is upsetting
I refuse to believe BMW didnt part take in this cars styling.
Very good redesign! 👍🏼✨ I wonder if the V8’s can reach the 2024 emission regulations in Europe or California.. 🤔
I live it, and, I especially love what other models Ford is offering, like the reproduction 1960s models, that look identical to their original counterparts, such as the first 1964 and a half model, the 1969 GT, for example, and the 66 Fastback!😘🇺🇲👍🌟 You're going to really pay for them chrome numbered replica 1960s models, though! The starting price is over $250,000.00!😯
10:31 the interior was inspired by the foxbody’s
The tail lights on the new S650 Mustang, I believe harken back to the 1967, or 1968 Mustang. I would love to see the rear brake vents brought back, and honestly, I hate the dash screens, I love analog gauges.
I think the S550 Roush RS2/3 is perfection.
I think that the interior is definitely the weakest point of the design. Would've loved a traditional dashboard and gauge cluster but they went the borderline electric car route
That jaguar design would've been awesome, the mustang is long gone from the muscle car styling anyway but honestly that visor windshield with no front bezel and those curves would have made this jaw dropping, pain to replace but probably a better driving experience overall
Your redesign is subtle but looks so much better!
I’m glad you brought this up. The design is a massive step back.
its not
@@rks-bh6tb It really is. It really is. The previous gen looks more modern than the new gen which is crazy.
It doesnt really look like a step back i personally quite like the design
@@genuinelyspoken6611 it looks older than the old model. And the interior 🤮 it’s lost a lot of the mustang trademarks.
Looks more like a BMW now
I just bought a '23 Mach 1 because of the instrument panel on the '24. If I want a Tesla or Mercedes panorama of plastic I would buy one of those cars. I wanted a MUSTANG with traditional dash appearance.
I want one but 47k , and that's for the EcoBoost premium 2024 I'm good . They just don't have any where I'm at they are sold before they even get in . But if i can find one for around 30-36k . I would hop on it .
The cut in the rear reminds me of the 1969 fastback
people say the eco boost is a “fake mustang” but that’s a load of crap. turbo 2.3 i4s where great with the thunderbird and fox body mustang, i dig it
they should make a dark horse convertible. I'd buy that.
Could you show what a 2023 Mazdaspeed 3 would look like? It has to have a hood scoop. Also, a more aggressive front number would be cool.
the bezels are huge on those screens are huge, people are used to small bezels, wish the ones for the speedo were round or shaped to be more in tune with the design.
Damn, your modded version should definitely be the production version!
The S650 interior is based off of the Foxbody interior
I was reading the reason why dodge doesn’t make v8 anymore is because their brand as a whole didn’t make the MPG requirements so they needed to become more fuel efficient. That’s why ford is able to continue. Their hybrid vehicles get good enough mpg where it balances out having some high output engines.
Dodge should still keep their Challenger, though! Just make it a V-6!!🤔
bro turned it into a honda civic in the end
Is it strange that I should like the separate screens look better than the single curved screen? I prefer the speedometer being physically separate from the infotainment screen at all costs.
I’m with you…I don’t like that rambling video screen. I don’t like any of it tbh.
Hopefully Ford owners won't have problems with the full size screens after the warranty runs out. Hopefully Ford will offer extended warranties on these extras. I'm sure they won't be cheap replacements. Love the Mustang , always been a Ford fan.
My son is 12yrs old and he still loves me to take him to school in my 2004 Azure Blue Mach1.......he lets his buddies know that it's his.....lol❤️
The digital screens should be embedded into the dash. It should follow the curve of it.
I ownt a 2019 Mustang and IMO the facelift version looks more aggressive and less "chonky" compared to the pre-facelift design. I don't like super boxy cars (unless its a Challenger) so I definitely prefer sharper edges and some curves than just a big rectangle. I think the new S650 Mustang looks great from the front and the side, but man that rear is just too small. Like it doesn't look good, it looks like its downscaled and the car feels very front heavy because of that. I definitely prefer your redesign of the rear, but the front looks fine. Wish the "golf club" line was there though
I plan on getting one I like it.
Please do a redesign on the XJ Cherokee
I'd be interested in an XR7 Cougar interpretation of the Dark Horse. I assume the big cat sketch that was an inspiration, was in fact a cougar.
The rear end part was so Damn true
There's parts of the new design I like, but that rear end kills me. I honestly think I like the S550 better overall still. Dark Horse pricing is also a bit up there. Would rather have an S550 GT350 tbh.
Dodge definitely couldn’t take any more emission fines, Mach E selling good was the only reason ford kept the V8
S550 has cool cobra headlights.
Damn, the gta v vapid dominator-mustang counterpart is more expensive than the 2023 ecoboost msrp. thats crazy.
Ordering the Dark Horse as soon as I can order one!n
After seeing the prices I was surprised that they are as low as they are seeing as prices for everything has been rising
i quite like the s650's taillight, it reminiscence of '67 and '68 taillight with a chiseled shape instead of bended
Hopefully analog gauges are used eventually. Doesn't have to be the 2024 but maybe 2025 mustang? If the supra got a manual we can get analog gauges
Don’t forget some designs like lights might have new regulations that forces a certain light design which could affect what it could’ve looked like
I think it looks so good
Personally I love what they did with the exterior on the S650, but the interior even with the curved display is an absolute downgrade. I can’t wait for this big square stuck on screen fad to die in general so we can hopefully get back to more classically designed and pretty interiors
I like the design, but the price just made it hard for me, Lol. I think a s550 will do for now 😂
Yeah u pretty much nailed the redesign. I can't stand that black lip-gloss piece they put on the GT's. The Dark Horse does fix that but the GT shouldn't have that weird piece.
You talk about line connections but your new headlight looks tacked on
Nice render.
The curved glass and maybe curced screen cost dobble the ammout of a flat glas screen so it is more expensive but how much exact i cann't say
Wow, ruge impact it makes, straight lines won't go wrong in muscle cars