David Graeber in conversation with Jonathan Conning

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  • David Graeber, author of Debt: The First 5,000 Years, in conversation with Jonathan Conning, Associate Professor of Economics at Hunter College at the Graduate Center, CUNY.
    About the book:
    Every economics textbook says the same thing: Money was invented to replace onerous and complicated barter system-to relieve ancient people from having to haul their goods to market. The problem with this version of history? There's not a shred of evidence to support it.Here anthropologist David Graeber presents a stunning reversal of conventional wisdom. He shows that 5,000 years ago, during the beginning of the agrarian empires, humans have used elaborate credit systems. It is in this era, Graeber shows, that we also first encounter a society divided into debtors and creditors.
    With the passage of time, however, virtual credit money was replaced by gold and silver coins-and the system as a whole began to decline. Interest rates spiked and the indebted became slaves. And the system perpetuated itself with tremendously violent consequences, with only the rare intervention of kings and churches keeping the system from spiraling out of control. Debt: The First 5,000 Years is a fascinating chronicle of this little known history-as well as how it has defined human history, and what it means for the credit crisis of the present day and the future of our economy.
    About the speakers:
    David Graeber is an anthropologist and activist based in New York, and London, where he holds the position of Reader in Social Anthropology at Goldsmiths, University of London. He is the author of six books, including Toward an Anthropological Theory of Value, Lost People: Magic and History in Central Madagascar, Direct Action: An Ethnography, and most recently, Debt: The First Five Thousand Years, alongside popular and political writings that have appeared in venues like Harpers, The Baffler, and The Nation. He is currently working on two books: one on bureaucracy, the other about his involvement in the formation of Occupy Wall Street.
    Jonathan Conning joined the economics department in the fall of 2002. His research and teaching interests include Development Economics, applied microeconomic theory and financial contracting, as well as trade and modern political economy. His research has explored the structure and operation of rural financial markets, microfinance and social investment, as well as topics in agrarian production organization, property rights, economic history, and impact evaluation.

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  • @glassblender
    @glassblender ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Graeber will be forever GOATed with the sauce RIP 😢

    • @AR0ACE
      @AR0ACE ปีที่แล้ว

      He really was busting it down (sexual style)

  • @evanisaac1529
    @evanisaac1529 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    the most sane, thoughtful, generous mind thank you David Graeber

  • @DougGrinbergs
    @DougGrinbergs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    9:32 interview start.

    • @Will140f
      @Will140f 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you. Man that person liked to hear herself talk. What a drawn out intro

  • @Captain_MonsterFart
    @Captain_MonsterFart 9 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    "Who is the money owed to?" Good question!

    • @robertmoffat5149
      @robertmoffat5149 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The rent seekers. Private banks or what used to be the feudal lords.

  • @JonathanLaliberte1
    @JonathanLaliberte1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Excellent talk. Really enjoyed that.

  • @randallsmith5631
    @randallsmith5631 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Dr. David Graeber,59 (1961-2O2O) RIP

  • @instituteforexperimentalar7493
    @instituteforexperimentalar7493 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    DAVID GRAEBER was a founding member of the Institute for Experimental Arts
    He did a lecture with the title: How social and economic structure influences the Art World in the Financial Consequences - International MultiMedia Poetry Festival organized by the Institute for Experimental Arts supported by LSE Department of Anthropology.
    Influential anthropologist David Graeber, known for his 2011 volume Debt: The First 5000 Years speaks about the correlation between the cultural sphere and society. The intellectuals and the artists create an imaginary way to criticize the economic system in any era. Art can overcome hegemonic frameworks and acknowledge other possible worlds, offer us the opportunity to understand better the marginalized social entities. Social exclusion is the process in which individuals or people are systematically blocked from (or denied full access to) various rights, opportunities and resources that are normally available to members of a different group, and which are fundamental to social integration and observance of human rights within that particular group (e.g., housing, employment, healthcare, civic engagement, democratic participation, and due process). As the economic crises go deeper in time more people face the effects of exclusion. Art and social sciences can give voice to the voiceless. Especially young social aware poets can give us a clear view of the real social effect of the financial consequences. - David Graeber
    You can watch the Lecture here:
    th-cam.com/video/WCF-8OQj0RE/w-d-xo.html

    • @jonnymahony9402
      @jonnymahony9402 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      stopp spamming on every video 🤦‍♂️

    • @TheNoblot
      @TheNoblot 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      1984 how history is erased in 2022/ zalesnki Biden AI Orwellian mind control world 🗺 Today the lot is on a 1984 Orwellian realm & history is erased, the same way that AI 🔭 big brother is watching you remember OCEANIA is AUKUS east Asia is Russia & china 😥⛓️/ there is one one party NATO worshipers/ Zalesnki Is ADOLPH ZALENKI on a Barbarossa war with Russia sponsored by IBM, Developing new devices to track "Jews" as they did in WW2. FACTS of history inquire you will find out * Exxon Mobil and the lot that helped HITLER IN WW 2 / same plot same tactics same people same FED same American companies " A reality that the brainwashed world does not perceive" therefore it is a AI mind control test on FED CIVILIZATION 1913 USA animal Farm, where all animals are equal & some are more equal than others. 😉🤐🤑🤐😂🤣🛩️⛵🛥️🤣😂📱
      “The Dawn of Everything”: David Wengrow & the Late David Graeber On a Ne..

  • @ChannelMath
    @ChannelMath 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Here's the trick, I think: debt is a contract, but there's a meta-contract behind it (the law) which specifies what happens when the contract is broken (beyond the bounds that it specifies). there is international law, but it doesn't hold over the USA. So if the debt is in dollars (which the US controls), you are basically a slave to the US, if we want you to be, without us *seeming* to rely on force, because the link back to the force is obscured by legalese.

  • @drakedoragon3026
    @drakedoragon3026 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    8:03 debate starts if you want to skip intro. FYI. audio is horrible... ugh.

    • @nasalai
      @nasalai 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lol aint no debate bro

    • @totocaca7035
      @totocaca7035 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No sound at all... What to do?

    • @tomisaacson2762
      @tomisaacson2762 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you

    • @voltcorp
      @voltcorp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@totocaca7035 the sound wasn't well engineered and is only on one side. if you have a problem with one of your speakers or those cheap mono headphones you have to go into sound options > accessibility > mono sound

  • @robertmoffat5149
    @robertmoffat5149 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The rent seekers. Private banks or what used to be the feudal lords.

  • @asheland_numismatics
    @asheland_numismatics 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Clark sent me here. 🤓👍

  • @crowdoftheavatar4042
    @crowdoftheavatar4042 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Awesome. Right ear only someone shoot me

  • @protoantipolis
    @protoantipolis ปีที่แล้ว

    fantastic

  • @royloveday4350
    @royloveday4350 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does Adam Smith mention a Barn Raising?

    • @gamerknown
      @gamerknown 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Barns are mentioned twice in wealth of nations: men multiplying like mice (quoted) and that you can feed certain livestock with offal from other livestock lol

  • @Stanislav013
    @Stanislav013 11 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    World without money? People actually work to make it happen!
    Search for The Venus project.

  • @al-imranadore1182
    @al-imranadore1182 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    why's there no audio???

    • @mjbates
      @mjbates 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It’s right channel only. Once I set my phone to “mono” in the setting, it sounds much better.

    • @ximono
      @ximono ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ironically, it's only on the right side.

  • @not2tees
    @not2tees 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I want to IMPRINT David Graeber into my consciousness!!

    • @robertmoffat5149
      @robertmoffat5149 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Good plan. I have. It’s a genuinely tragic loss since his perspective was so unique. Oh well at least he left a deep legacy behind in his short life.

  • @mickseppala
    @mickseppala 11 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Under fractional reserve: inflation causes prices to swallow savings, and deflation causes defaults, both are bad. When this is done to other countries leftists call it neo-imperialism, when the Fed does it here they call it keynesianism or progressivism.

  • @larrysmith2636
    @larrysmith2636 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No "interviewers."

  • @kikolatulipe
    @kikolatulipe 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Skip the 6first minutes

  • @AugustusOmega
    @AugustusOmega 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Stalins faint image graces the background set.

  • @ximono
    @ximono ปีที่แล้ว

    1:16:53 Quantum money! I wonder how that would work

    • @ximono
      @ximono ปีที่แล้ว

      Another alternative is time-based currencies as in LETS (Local Exchange Trading System) or CES (Community Exchange System). It can suffer from bureaucratic overhead and difficulty in adoption alongside an existing market economy, but it's possible to imagine a more efficient digital time-based economy. Possibly based on a secure append-only ledger, technologically similar to but otherwise very different from the blockchain crypto currencies of today. It's definitely worth exploring, I think.

  • @strawprophet
    @strawprophet 12 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    #occupy

  • @agnostoatomo
    @agnostoatomo 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    NO SOUND = Video useless!

    • @Graeberwave
      @Graeberwave 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Audiophile detected

  • @josephlancaster7997
    @josephlancaster7997 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Anarchism; the revolution always devours her own children...

  • @redmotherfive
    @redmotherfive 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    worst interviewer ever?

  • @MagnumInnominandum
    @MagnumInnominandum 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So awake, so empty.