I top 4 regularly with arcanists... They're strong guys, reroll if you have a lot of say lux or Zoe naturally but otherwise just push up to level 9 and get your free top 4
you could swap to bronze arcanist for +20ap with zoe instead of Janna. Illaoi too so you hyper roll at lvl 7 so you would have 4 units cost 3 to roll. Amumu+Lux too. It's a very flex comp
Idk what it is about this st bt I went uncontested challenger 2 games and couldn't roll a 3* at level 7 but 2 players got their shens and senna to 3*. Idk what I'm doing wrong only getting 5 volition and 4 Tris after rerolling 80+ gold. It's just RNG
hear me out, janna + lux carries (lux shiv + red buff + adaptive helm. janna shojin, rageblade and dcap) with amumu, illaoi and diana frontline, then throwing in a zyra (or morg if you hit her). consistently beats yone 3 when everything is hit. on uncontested games i get first, else it's between a 3 and 5th, fun comp
no this 1 in 100 games, most of the games you will either get a quick 7-8th or grind a 4th, comp is copium af and only works if u turbo highroll earlygame and turbo highroll midgame and get to 9..which is impossible in most cases
@@RedEyeGames1plus you need to atleast 3 star the two costs/carries. it's a bit tricky and can cost you the game if it doesn't go in your favor. that's why it is ranked A tier in comp tiers.
I would like to see a guide about standart leveling this set. I really struggle with pivoting off my 2-cost carry. I also am clueless of when to drop my current frontline for a bunch of dragonmancer units when going for lvl 9
Yea like people are saying, when new comps come out they get contested buttttt doesn’t that free up heavenly yone and fast nine for us poor gold players?
Played that comp before this vid and wanna know why it’s unreliable? Because everyone and their mother is playing storyweaver so u will never hit Zoe or Zyra 3^^ But other than that, nice video, love nichee comps, the meta is too stale :D
I've been playing this comp a lot, and I prioritize Zyra and put leftover items on Zoe, moving them over to Janna when I find Galio 2. Am I just playing this wrong?
Is this comp even that good? Without two healthy and sage crest AND exalted he def bot 4s like it’s not even close. Ofc any comp is op if you get correct augments, wish you would talk about that but now 4 ppl are gonna be playing this every lobby so I guess I’ll keep climbing so thank you for that
@@hatezomm It does, since no one really goes behemoth. at most people take yorick for umbral or ornn for 2 dryads and some malp and chogath, you just need them 1 star. Your main frontline will either be a 3star thresh or a 2 star ornn . You just have to survive until you get a ashe as she is the main carry (get a sivir 2/senna 2/ cait 2 to hold the items like Last Whisper and Guinsoo's Rageblade). even if shes a 1 star. Its rough in the early game but if you survive in the late game, you easily get top 4. You just have to reposition your carries every now and then since theres units that likes to kill backlines units( yone,cait, irelia, wukong, morg, 2 trickshot units, kog even). If you can get the "raid boss augment" to make your make tank tankier. IF you want put infinity edge or runaan on ashe make sure to get the "Harmacist" augment since your ashe will surely get dmg by something. If you can, try to get a second carry like a syndra for more damage .
@@hatezomm It does, since theres barely any people going 6 behemoth(at most a 2 behemoth), Your main frontline is 3star thresh or 2star ornn. Get a 2star cait/sivir/senna/trist fir early game carry until you get a ashe. Your item for ashe is last whisper and rageblade, your last item is either hand of justice/gunblade/bloodthirster (since theres units that likes to damage backline units like yone and irelia). Your augment is pandoras box(so you can get your main items on your tank and damge dealer) , raid boss (your main behemoth is going to more tankier) and 3rd one is up to you, if want ashe to hold infinity edge or runaan for her third item get the Harmacist augment. If you can survive the early game. the you can easily get top 4, top 1 if you reposition correctly. If you can try to get a 2nd carry like syndra or hwei
@@hatezomm IT does work since not a lot of people goes behemoth, at most 2 behemoth. Your early game is super rough so get other synergies till you get 4 behemoth and a good early carry like a sivir 2/senna 2/cait 2 holding rageblade,last whisper, healing item, Your main augment is "Raid boss" and "pandoras box" , if you want you can put runaan or infinity edge on ashe, just gotta repostion since theres units that likes to kill backlines like irelia. Take this with a grain of salt since im only g4 and dont play as much as before
@@hatezomm It does since people dont go 6 behemoth. at most 2 behemoth. But your early game is super rough. but if can get your ashe and 6 behemoth you can get top 4. take this with a grain of salt since im only gold 4 and i play every now and then.
I've tried multiple variations as well and find it very lackluster. Too many conditions for it too work. High rolling 3stars. Good augments to support ap boards so on and so on.
Doesnt matter what u build no way in hell does a 2 star senna beat a radiant blessing 2 d claw and 4 bruiser front line. No way in this life. Against a 2 star sylas with titans triforce. And alune with archs and gauntlet.
6 umbral 4 bruisers lost to 2 star senna with llaoi 1 star front line. Not to mention I neeko 2 star stalled my entire stacked front line with sunfires. And their kog deleted 4 units before they finished 1 2 star neeko ... this eomm crap is coming back to them purge style
Porcelain Ashe & Lissandra, Mythic Lilia & Hwei, Inkshadow Kai'sa, Dragonlord Lee Sin & Rakan, Storyweaver Irelia & Galio are all strong comps. Not even viable, all of the above are straight up strong comps
The issue with that is how slow the game is now, I routinely see level 9 players dying and going 7th or 8th, that would not be a thing in set 10, would be a 6th at least
@@KeremyJato Unless you had a crazy opener and naturalled a lot of key units to 2-star on your way to level 9 or at least 8, you are pretty much gonna end up with a 5th the moment the Senna, Voli and 2-3 Yone players hit 9 with their capped out board.
@@KeremyJatoyeah was about to say... There are 3 or 4 very decent comps at level 8 with a 4 cost unit to carry. However, it's expensive... So you need to be able to play a strong healthy and rich early / mid game to be able to transition
I just had a diamond game where 3 people were playing it. I held the units since I had the sage augment and transitioned to irel 9
ok but like I just started playing this now everyone will gg
Ikr lmao
The comp has been out for 2 weeks on other servers wdym 🤡
You can scout maybe
@@cliffyang7687 nerd
This season is learn new team for a day then drop it because everyone is doing it now lol
I top 4 regularly with arcanists... They're strong guys, reroll if you have a lot of say lux or Zoe naturally but otherwise just push up to level 9 and get your free top 4
Just discovered this video 2 days and these comps are pretty uncontested. Thanks Dan for the -180 lps.
My build is very similar to this, no wonder it's so contested now demit
I found a zyra and janna in my shop on 2-1 when I started this video and am currently being double contested 😃
How did it go?
@@hatezomm 6th
they might also hv just started this vid
you could swap to bronze arcanist for +20ap with zoe instead of Janna. Illaoi too so you hyper roll at lvl 7 so you would have 4 units cost 3 to roll. Amumu+Lux too.
It's a very flex comp
Idk what it is about this st bt I went uncontested challenger 2 games and couldn't roll a 3* at level 7 but 2 players got their shens and senna to 3*. Idk what I'm doing wrong only getting 5 volition and 4 Tris after rerolling 80+ gold. It's just RNG
just relise, love that toast plushie in the background
hear me out, janna + lux carries (lux shiv + red buff + adaptive helm. janna shojin, rageblade and dcap) with amumu, illaoi and diana frontline, then throwing in a zyra (or morg if you hit her). consistently beats yone 3 when everything is hit. on uncontested games i get first, else it's between a 3 and 5th, fun comp
wow cool story, mythical stuff going on in gold it seems
@@RedEyeGames1 i'm emerald 2 rn actually, which is top 1ish percent of eu
That sounds like a pretty tidy comp, might be a cool third ap reroll variation if u hit the units on a roll down. Might keep an eye out to try this. 😮
why adaptive helm tho, you already have enough mana generation with red buff alone
why even try to play janna with it, sounds like normal lux amumu comp but weaker to try to get dragonlord 2 in for whatever reason
Is this a representative game tho? Two healthy and easy to fit exalted?
no this 1 in 100 games, most of the games you will either get a quick 7-8th or grind a 4th, comp is copium af and only works if u turbo highroll earlygame and turbo highroll midgame and get to 9..which is impossible in most cases
@@RedEyeGames1plus you need to atleast 3 star the two costs/carries. it's a bit tricky and can cost you the game if it doesn't go in your favor. that's why it is ranked A tier in comp tiers.
@@RedEyeGames1speaking out ur ass lol
What is your take on heavenly dragon comps with janna diana carry/tank?
this comp is bonkers and annoying. the riven/janna/diana/soraka combo is kinda op. guaranteed top 4.
This comp is insane in hyperroll. But it's hard to really go off in ranked.
ohh this is why i was contested on janna twice today
Played this in hyper roll all day yesterday and now im almost top 500 lol
I would like to see a guide about standart leveling this set. I really struggle with pivoting off my 2-cost carry. I also am clueless of when to drop my current frontline for a bunch of dragonmancer units when going for lvl 9
Zyra does damage??
Hi frodan could you cover some games from setsuko fast 9
Yea like people are saying, when new comps come out they get contested buttttt doesn’t that free up heavenly yone and fast nine for us poor gold players?
Played that comp before this vid and wanna know why it’s unreliable? Because everyone and their mother is playing storyweaver so u will never hit Zoe or Zyra 3^^
But other than that, nice video, love nichee comps, the meta is too stale :D
How do I pause at augments and think this long in game? 😂 /s
yeah i just beat a yone heavenly with janna 3 and positioning but dear frodan how the fuck do i get 11 items on lvl 6?
I've been playing this comp a lot, and I prioritize Zyra and put leftover items on Zoe, moving them over to Janna when I find Galio 2. Am I just playing this wrong?
I play zyra janna, janna main carry and zyra is the side kick
Yes, watch the video.
rerolling without a good rerolling argument is just pain so i just play whtever will stabilize until i hv econ to work with
Is this comp even that good? Without two healthy and sage crest AND exalted he def bot 4s like it’s not even close. Ofc any comp is op if you get correct augments, wish you would talk about that but now 4 ppl are gonna be playing this every lobby so I guess I’ll keep climbing so thank you for that
Frodan, I like you but this comp isnt rly new, people played Dragonlord Flex since PBE , LUL , nontheless nice video for the casuals :D
Went 1st with this. Three starred Zyra, Zoe, Neeko, Soraka, Diana, and Janna.
Now surely. I'm going to be the only one going 6 behemoth and a ashe/syndra/xayah carry, surely
Does it work well?
@@hatezomm It does, since no one really goes behemoth. at most people take yorick for umbral or ornn for 2 dryads and some malp and chogath, you just need them 1 star. Your main frontline will either be a 3star thresh or a 2 star ornn . You just have to survive until you get a ashe as she is the main carry (get a sivir 2/senna 2/ cait 2 to hold the items like Last Whisper and Guinsoo's Rageblade). even if shes a 1 star. Its rough in the early game but if you survive in the late game, you easily get top 4. You just have to reposition your carries every now and then since theres units that likes to kill backlines units( yone,cait, irelia, wukong, morg, 2 trickshot units, kog even). If you can get the "raid boss augment" to make your make tank tankier. IF you want put infinity edge or runaan on ashe make sure to get the "Harmacist" augment since your ashe will surely get dmg by something. If you can, try to get a second carry like a syndra for more damage .
@@hatezomm It does, since theres barely any people going 6 behemoth(at most a 2 behemoth), Your main frontline is 3star thresh or 2star ornn. Get a 2star cait/sivir/senna/trist fir early game carry until you get a ashe. Your item for ashe is last whisper and rageblade, your last item is either hand of justice/gunblade/bloodthirster (since theres units that likes to damage backline units like yone and irelia). Your augment is pandoras box(so you can get your main items on your tank and damge dealer) , raid boss (your main behemoth is going to more tankier) and 3rd one is up to you, if want ashe to hold infinity edge or runaan for her third item get the Harmacist augment. If you can survive the early game. the you can easily get top 4, top 1 if you reposition correctly. If you can try to get a 2nd carry like syndra or hwei
@@hatezomm IT does work since not a lot of people goes behemoth, at most 2 behemoth. Your early game is super rough so get other synergies till you get 4 behemoth and a good early carry like a sivir 2/senna 2/cait 2 holding rageblade,last whisper, healing item, Your main augment is "Raid boss" and "pandoras box" , if you want you can put runaan or infinity edge on ashe, just gotta repostion since theres units that likes to kill backlines like irelia. Take this with a grain of salt since im only g4 and dont play as much as before
@@hatezomm It does since people dont go 6 behemoth. at most 2 behemoth. But your early game is super rough. but if can get your ashe and 6 behemoth you can get top 4. take this with a grain of salt since im only gold 4 and i play every now and then.
Ah shit I started playing this 2 days ago
NOOOO my comp, now it's out in the wild 😭
When is nashors better than rageblade?
Always. Nashors frees up the needless rod while nashors uses up what normally would be useless health belts.
damn i literally started spamming this comp 3 days ago, now i'm just gonna get contested lol
Learn to play more than one comp then
@@AIpuchino where in my sentence did i say i can only play one comp?
trie it with 3 star soraka, zhyra and janan and went 8 place
I've tried multiple variations as well and find it very lackluster. Too many conditions for it too work. High rolling 3stars. Good augments to support ap boards so on and so on.
You need a 3 star Diana, this comp needs a beefy frontline
nice
Kinda weird Frodan saying that *Mana Generation > AP* and then talk about being weird to pick red kayle over blue.
Doesn't necessarily mean that every amount of mana generation is better than every amount of AP
Yone still oneshots my janna and soraka
F Trone, F TR TR BT, F Heavenly, F Mythic, F Trolibear
Im spamming janna zyra reroll
calling zoe hot is wild
11:39 ... bro we get that triple blue kyle is best and so is ap reroll but red more flexible on xayah and kaisa
p.s diana super contested on plat
sorry I only fast 9 flex no scout no pivot
impossible, everyone for some reason run janna/diana
i love u
Doesnt matter what u build no way in hell does a 2 star senna beat a radiant blessing 2 d claw and 4 bruiser front line. No way in this life. Against a 2 star sylas with titans triforce. And alune with archs and gauntlet.
6 umbral 4 bruisers lost to 2 star senna with llaoi 1 star front line.
Not to mention I neeko 2 star stalled my entire stacked front line with sunfires. And their kog deleted 4 units before they finished 1 2 star neeko
... this eomm crap is coming back to them purge style
I don't think this set gonna survive without mid set , numbers off players gonna drop very soon
"Hot Girls"
1) Rakan?
2) Lee Sin??
3) Wukong???
4) Zoe??????????????
I think he's talking about the main units you roll for...
All of them are hot girls. Zoe is legal, thanks rito lore team for making that clear
@@ironboy3245 "Zoe is legal" Genuine PDF file sentence here
@@pjkrill3109 From riot themselves, Zoe was born thousands of years ago in the Rakkor tribe of Mount Targon. She is legal. Age wise at least.
@@ironboy3245 You think that holds up in court lol?
@@deeky1239 you think there's court for a virtual character?
So, just another reroll comp. I miss the good old days of slowl transitioning to a 4-cost and 5-cost board and be on par with donkey rollers.
Porcelain Ashe & Lissandra, Mythic Lilia & Hwei, Inkshadow Kai'sa, Dragonlord Lee Sin & Rakan, Storyweaver Irelia & Galio are all strong comps. Not even viable, all of the above are straight up strong comps
The issue with that is how slow the game is now, I routinely see level 9 players dying and going 7th or 8th, that would not be a thing in set 10, would be a 6th at least
@@KeremyJato Unless you had a crazy opener and naturalled a lot of key units to 2-star on your way to level 9 or at least 8, you are pretty much gonna end up with a 5th the moment the Senna, Voli and 2-3 Yone players hit 9 with their capped out board.
@@KeremyJatoyeah was about to say... There are 3 or 4 very decent comps at level 8 with a 4 cost unit to carry. However, it's expensive... So you need to be able to play a strong healthy and rich early / mid game to be able to transition
great vid
zoe hot girls? 🙈