How INEOS Plan To Reset Man United
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- On this week's episode of The Breakdown, brought to you by Sky Bet, we took a closer look at how INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe will be looking to reset Manchester United.
Do you think Manchester United should stick with Erik ten Hag or do you believe INEOS should bring in their own choice of manager to begin their rebuild?
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And a new medical team please
Most needed
Our squad was injury-prone before but when O'Driscoll(Arsenal's former doctor) joined the club- it got way worse than it was.
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Yes
Ten Hag thought EPL was like Dutch Farmers League and a walk in the park, the physical and quickness aspect of it day in day out has definitely got to the ex Ajax players.
Antony gets brushed off at ease and can’t beat his man more often than not, Bonana is always a fraction too late with his goalkeeping, Lisandro although a warrior just couldn’t keep himself away from the injury table.
Working his team in extreme fitness when their bodies couldn’t cope isn’t going to work. Ten Hag really have to change in his approach and criteria to finding players for transfers but then again he knows no one other than players from the Dutch league…
May as well keep ETH, he’s only got a year left anyway. Let him clear out the squad, and try and get some discipline back in the club. Then see where you’re at next year
Discipline and culture comes from ownership, and these guys are only part owners and not even the major part of ownership. It’s a bit hard for anything to actually change when the thing that needs to change most is the thing that fans have absolutely no impact on.
@@conors4430that’s a long winded way of saying you need to get the Norwich scarfs out again! “Glazers out” 😂😂
@@Bert-lw1ot The lowering of the standards at the club is something to behold. Manager is part of the problem.
If ETH is dumb enough to allow his contract to run down and do the clubs dirty work and then get replaced...he is a bigger idiot than he has shown to be.
If the club wanted to keep him they would've said so already. He won't be the guy for the project they want
@@MiserableRacerwhat’s his options? Resign? May as well use him to do the dirty work, and see where things are in a year’s time
Around 3/4 of the current squad of players needs to be given the boot.
You'll achieve nothing if that same toxic attitude remains around the team ☠️
You’ll also achieve nothing if you keep recruiting and signing on toxic, as well as bringing in good and making things toxic. The entire culture of the club needs a reset, that is much bigger than just the dressing room.
With the new ffp rules it becomes even harder to buy new players.
There’s no such thing as toxic attitude at United. It’s an exorbitant myth.
I think if u move on the likes of Maguire awb Casemiro pellestri Antony martial Sancho maybe 1 or 2 more on then u can fix the environment around the squad. Not all bad eggs but easy to be influenced. Need to bring the right attitude & talent in. 6/7 out & the rest will fall in line with the right leadership.
@@davidgardiner47 Maguire is one of the most respected and hard working professonals in the game. Ridiculous to blame him for a bad "environment"
I’d stick with ten hag. That Ajax team was no fluke. It was proper structure at the club etc.
That Ajax team was well researched and curated by the owner himself he had all those players agents on his personal watsapp, not TenHag look it up yourself
You talk about that Ajax team like it was prime Barca ffs😂😂
@@anirudhmenon9099no. It outperformed the sum of its parts, brought consecutive titles back to Ajax, and should have made a Champions League final. Look at them now.
@@anirudhmenon9099stick to cricket
@@ashtonndlovu9470 What happened after Ten Hag left, the Ajax team crumbled.
There isn’t a manager in the world that would get a tune out of this Frankenstein squad. Players recruited by so many different managers, some lacking in due diligence by the previous recruitment team.
Give Erik another year to prove that his project is moving in the right direction, and accept this year may well just be taking one step back to take two forward.
Frankenstein squad
65% of the current squad were brought in by Ten Hag.
@@stevoc9930and 65% are injured 😭
@@stevoc9930 11/28 is 40%. And that’s ignoring the shite that has had to be sent out on loan.
@@The_Mancalorian Well if they're on loan then they're not part of the squad. Obviously.
The example here 6:00 due to absence of defenders pressing high. Martinez plays high on the front foot keeping the team compact. I believe INEOS are not casting final judgment on Ten Hag while he is operating without the expected structure of a top club. A club which would have a ready made younger player to take Martinez's place, for example.
There is some sort of "disease" in this squad that needs to be rooted out. Preferably before youngsters like Mainoo and Garnacho catch it too. A big clear-out is needed this summer.
65% of the current squad were brought in by Ten Hag.
@@stevoc9930 11 players out of 30 are ten Hag signings. But I get your point. Still, what I'm talking about is the kind of thing you find in some work places, where a culture survives no matter how many new people come in.
We need to clear out most of the players ETH has spent £400m on. That is not a good look for the manager.
@@creepingbrain And it has to be said, he's responsible for the biggest flop signing in PM history: Antony - €100M!
@creepingbrain Not a good look is an understatement. Martinez, Onana, Hojlund, Antony, Mount and Casemiro all have massive question marks over their futures. Not a great way to spend £400m
The most honest and perfect analysis
The first thing that needs to be scrutinised & fixed is the physiotherapy/medical/fitness department; because having this many serious long-term injuries with most of the starting 11 is unacceptable & absurd! Someone is either overworking their players, mistraining them, or just not helping them recover well. It’s pitiful that we’re relying on Evans…
Also, we sign far too many players from different leagues. United always used to sign top players from the PL or promote from the academy, with an occasional international signing. Players like Carrick, Keane, Cantona, Van Persie, Tevez, Berbatov, Cole, Sheringham, Ferdinand, Van Der Sar etc.
Happen for many years long before ole and Erik
This ain’t the 90s and 2000s anymore…
We cant bully other PL club to sign their players like we did under Fergie anymore
What a refreshing change and a breath of fresh air a video about United
Keep him, sign 8 players, get rid of 10 players, give him until december with new squad, fit squad and see if things improve. If Rashford will be our main man start of next season or Southgate becomes our manager, I take a break from watching united. Its tiring
Look at the recent managers record, it would make sense to keep ETH a bit longer, chopping & changing things is good for no one.Fans are always impatient so let's hope Radcliffe doesn't get bounced into a premature decision.Sadly too many fans live in a dream world where success is a right. Real transitions in the real world take time whether we like it or not.
Wouldn't it make more sense for INEOS to bring in the manager that they want instead? Why bother keeping Ten Hag for another year when they can replace him immediately?
what about bayer leverkusen then? When Xabi took over they were in relegation zone and a year later they're about to do an invincible treble
@@anirudhmenon9099 Did pep or klop go invincible in their first season? Neither did sir Alex. Does that mean Xabi Alonso is better than pep ? or Fergie?. Everyones situation is different my guy.
Great article. When city first got the money, first thing they did, was sort out the infrastructure. We have ro do the same and the good times will return.GGMU
Ten Hag wants to play the football we all want to see. He doesn’t have the quality throughout the squad to do it tho. INEOS need to change the tune at United and back the manager rather than the players again or this cycle will continue for years to come.
rubbish
What football is that? Leave 40 yard gaps all over the pitch? Concede 30 shots per game?
How many people ETH brought to the club?Is it not enough to play something better then this after 2 years?
back the manager for once. boot the deadweights. bring in youth and talent. set realistic goals for the next 2 seasons. ignore the glory hunting 'fans'.
These people are serious about getting it right without fleecing the club and supporters but it won't happen overnight be patient, good luck ineos
It seems like a bit of a passion project, it has massive potential. SJR knows what he's doing
They'll pull the plug and wait five seconds
There is less risk with staying with EtH than replacing him with yet another manager. He can turn it around if hes backed properly by the board, with a new structure behind him. Bringing someone else in is a massive roll of the dice; there’s not a lot of talent available, no guarantee it works, etc. Cant keep rinsing and repeat.
Brilliant video. Good analysis all round.
Give him one more season to see how he gets on with Ineos behind him. Changing the coach at this point is only going to make things even more messy. I think we need to temper our expectations next season. This is going to take some time to fix.
It's funny, i wanted Sheik Jasim but I've never seen or heard of anything about him since his bid was unsuccessful. As a sceptic of Sir Jim i have to say in the short time he has had, well he has done wonders already, and i doubt any other owner especially with only 25% could match him. I personally think there is more into his contract that we dont know about. One thing for sure is the future of United looks bright. Let's face it, it can't get any worse.
Top content this, unreal 👏🏽👏🏽
There is hope for the players. The FA Cup Liverpool game showed exactly how Manchester United should play. I saw the 11 giving their all. Something that has lacked all season and found it that day. They showed a glimpse that they do have the talent its just a matter of giving 100% al the games
Absolutely fantastic video clearly breaking down the situation at man utd 👏
I love Olly as a legend at United but no way was he a forward thinking fluid play manager. It was park the bus and counter attack.
Problems with the players at the club have nothing to do with the current manager. In my non important opinion, there have been so many changes in the background to change the manager also.
Absolutely clueless 😂
Casemiro, Eriksen, Mount, Onana, Amrabat, Antony, Malacia. All ETH signings. I'm even tempted to put Rasmus in there since he's clearly miles off being the quality of striker we need, but maybe that's a little unfair with his age. We need to get rid of most of ETH's signings. That is a big problem for ETH.
All these players and the managers were signed by the Glazer's. It's finally time for a revolution at Man United, so everyone has to go.
Very accurate and well put-together video!
Can't wait for change. Needs to be done from the bottom-up
Can't get an understudy to Hojland though... he's the one that should be the understudy..
They got to ETH might as well start from ground zero with a new manager to match the new structure, no point in keeping ETH there. Needs a manager that also fits into this new setup..
Good summary 👍
Great video 👍
Six manages in 12 years, not including gigs as caretaker for a while. Yeah, maybe the eighth man in the hot seat might do the trick.
Have any of the managers that have left done anything since? Maybe the problem was the hiring process? Which still means the top brass were the problem, but also doesn't negate the fact that ten Hag is the wrong manager
@@mrmortimerbiotic cap. When you sack six managers in 12 years. You clearly are the problem and need to reflect on you're catering to those manager's needs. Many of them have come out to speak about the disjointed nature of backing they got
@@mrmortimerbiotic Moyes & Mourinho won the Conference League which for the size of teams was a good achievement. First time both teams have won anything in a long period of time. Van Gaal only was coach at Netherlands after and went 20 games undefeated, only lost on pens to the winners Argentina.
@@randomnessofthescope9704 Very simple. Ten hag has been given the tools work with, but he has failed.
@@thomasgundersen8975 and United fans have literally been repeating this same sentence every 18 months for 12 years. So what does that say?
Give Erik one more season and overhaul the squad, coaching staff, medical, physios, etc
This is bang on mate well said 👏🏻👏🏻
You are missing the point, most of this current man utd squad are on massive wages , long contracts and unfortunately they ain't going nowhere , facts
This is an excellent analysis and I agree 100% with the profile of players we need; quick, good on the ball, athletic. We dont have much of that at all at CB or CM. We all know we need these players, we know we dont have it. It’s why we’re getting hammered throughout the season. Cant blame the manager if he’s dealing with slow, old, immobile players throughout the entire spine of the team
The tactics have been inexcusable. We need a new head coach
Honestly get Roy Keane in to get rid of half the squad and reinsert the culture of Manchester United ,he could do that job ,then when that is done ,hire a top level manager
Stick with Erik Ten Hag. Injuries has wrecked his season. I'm sure he will come back next season 🏆
Majority feel the same every poll I seen on TH-cam says same
I still don't get what you've seen or heard to think this for a single second?
nah
We've had the same structural problems with the team all season, every single game, not matter whether we've been full strength or depleted.
@creepingbrain, although I agree, it was the same structure last year, which was probably worse and utd came 3rd. We have to take into account that better teams did worse. So ETH did over achieve, other teams underachieved. This season or last the football has been poor. The difference is rashford scoring. Them goals sealed over the cracks. Even with Injuries ETH does change anything, doesn't coach players to play any other way. And the same issues with tactics are the same in week in week out which leads me to believe this is how hes setting up the squad.
cool report!!!
The recruitment area is pathetic,and that is understatement.keep ten hug but control recruitment.just like ajax got van de sar.he'll get better players than eth choices
It’s not just a question of whether they stick with ETH but more around committing to him, he will 100% be wanting assurance’s that he’s the man for INEOS and an expectation of that is for them to commit to him longer term. He won’t IMO accept them saying let’s go with you next year and see how it goes which is how some seem to think we could move forward - for me if INEOS believe he’s the right coach they will have to show him some form of commitment this summer which is going to be extremely difficult given how poor they’ve been this season.
He (ETH) has chances to go to Bayern and back to Ajax both which would give him more in the way of longer than a season and if it comes down to it and United want to stick with him but won’t commit to him he’ll be off anyway.
Nobody knows how INEOS are thinking and I’m not sure even an FA Cup win would be acceptable but again it’s a massive summer at the club BUT I’m heartened by fact we actually have some football people involved now that will make the best decision based on solid experience
I'm sure they've already made up their mind to sack him. He won't be here next season.
@@theemotionalremix inclined to agree and he can have very little complaint when all is said and done
Wether you stuck with ten hag or get a new manager in the main point is to clear out the squad and get rid of the player power but I’m not sure if that will ever happen
Perfectly 💯 with you sir including the medical side need to improved
I guess it depends if Ten Hag’s intended style is the style Ineos want long term. I would take that Ajax team several seasons back. Give Ten Hag another season or two and the overhaul the squad needs. Or tell me another manager out there that can come in and do a better job?
This was really interesting.
good analysis
New coach. Thank you
The biggest issue which no one is yet to address is the why our players keep getting injured and recurring injuries to key players like martinez and shae means New medical and physio team is urgently needed!!!
I honestly believe we someone from the Ferguson era on the board for the rebuild. Maybe Roy or Neville
Unless INEOS can find a manager that they absolutely want, I don't see them moving on from ETH this offseason. That said, with as much change that is needed, it might be a good idea to keep ETH if he shares the vision of INEOS.
Well its completely obvious that our problem was never about the managers and not all about bad players, but more into applied principal or philosophy (or as mentioned in the video, game profile). For all this time, we’ve been focusing on patchy fix rather than structural approach. So I would say keep Ten Hag at least for another season and let him work on more cohesive environment
The problem is not with the manager. These players need to be cleared out. Meanwhile, I don't think INEOS will succeed. Manchester United seems to be going the way of Nottingham Forest.
Ole was the only one playing the Man U way, but that CR7 saga and not having the recruits he had had identified to change from counterattack to being more in control undermined him. But going forward, might as well allow ETH a chance to compete when his starting 11 is actually fit before sacking another coach.
New manager needed. New players. New culture, new environment. Great video love this guys videos
What manager would you get in to replace him?
@PazzV27 not sure but I would take a couple of current Premier league managers over Ten Hag, Ange, Emry, De Zerbi.
Show ten have have this video.... Because this is we play all season.... Madness
Great summary of the mire we are in.
If INEOS are building a game model why would they change manager? surely ETH has the pedigree as provided with previous teams to coach at an elite level. The issue is the amount of players that need to be replaced and the time it will take to achieve it, especially with how impatient fans are.
I think the question should be why would INEOS keep him if they are building a game model?
When changes to football operations occur in the board. The new owner typically has their own man for the job. EtH hasn't made a great claim this season as to why he is the right man to lead us forward.
What pedigree is that exactly? He won the Dutch league with the biggest, richest club in the Dutch league?
Keep EtH, he's the man. No point replacing him, blaming manager for this squad. Most players have quit on this club and thinking of elsewhere.
Not necessarily long term, but sick with Ten Hag for at least another year and then decide what to do with him afterwards. If results are better and there's visible improvement, keep him long term. If things continue to remain bad, his contract will expire anyway so no need to pay him out and they can bring someone else in.
I think the biggest problem is player injuries then The level and capabilities of the players that do not match the coach’s playing style
We give Ten Hag a year to turn it around after a summer rebuild.
We've sacked every manager since Sir Alex the first time they have a bad patch, the last time we let a manager ride out and get through a bad patch? Fergusons first few years.
This season has been a nightmare on and off the pitch, The Glazers dawdling over the sale, the Greenwood and Sancho situation, Rashford going from a Pele clone one season to the footballing skill of my 73 year old dad the next, then all the injuries, i think the manager has been able to field the team he wanted maybe twice all season.. Ten Hag has a year left on his contract, lets see what happens with Ineos behind him.
Stick with ETH, there are still so many issues that need sorting out why not at least use ETH’s last year to start righting the ship. In fact it my be in our interest to keep him a season or two longer.
what the pressing graphic shows is that casemiro just doesnt have the legs to press effectively in a 4 4 2
Amazing video I don't think 10% of that would happen
No other team in the league gets this amount of scrutiny about playing style, and the football club in general
Any chance we could get a juan sebastian veron interview?
Watching man u against arsenal just now is like watching man u under David Moyes passing to januzaj and hoping things will happen😊
The real issue is the players. An overhaul of the squad is needed.
ETH is the only option on how INEOS want to play he has identity and has proven before with sound structure he can deliver no wonder liverpool had options but went for less known coach coz he fits their style
The fact Utd were this ranked as the most valuable football club in the world, whilst being a mid table nonsense football team, is madness.
They just need to start making half-sensible decisions (which Ineos are more than capable of doing) to become an absolute monster of a club.
Which exact seasons have Utd ever finished mid table in the PL? Lol
Do we know that INEOS are capable of that?
@@nyykSIUUU it’s impossible to know without a crystal ball - but based on the moves made in their first 3 months, it’s a pretty safe assumption to make.
Berrada, Ashworth and Wilcox. Plus plans for develop carrington and OT. All qualifies for atleast half-way competency in my opinion.
@@samwize28 that definitely gives me hope but I want to see the same dedication from them for the next 3-5 years since that‘s where they tend to drop off if you listen to Lausanne and Nice supporters
@@nyykSIUUU unless one of the following happens:
- Jim falls ill
- INEOS go bankrupt
- INEOS/Jim get bored and focus on a different project instead
I’m confident they will continue to operate the way they have been so far - I.e doing their absolute best to make Utd as good as possible.
Whether or not their best is good enough remains to be seen. But what we can guarantee is they will be better than the glazers!
Keep the core of young players: Mainoo, Hojlund, Garnacho, Amad
Sell the overpaid underperforming players
Smart-signing and integrate academy players
See how the season goes out, top 4 should be the main target
Here's a way for ppl that dont understand Uniteds situation, imaging all prem teams are cars., the club is the chassis the players are the part that makes the engine and the manager is the driver.
If you have a rusty chase and dogdey parts the drive has little chance of competing, especially win City are basically an F1 car. hahaha
Seems like Sir Jim is fixing the chassis now and hopefully they are now looking and talking to the driver about new parts .. so let the Driver have a season In a half-decent car
ETH IN !!!
Structure comes first, then they can look to change the manager if he doesnt fit the vision. This is a long term rebuild, I think most fans understand that.
3:34 its the fitness regime. Players forced to bulk their muscle and turn them into "ronaldo". Been happening since 2012 with Rvp Di Maria Januzaj
actually Casemiro and Eriksen only started in that Arsenal game they lost, they were not seen starting together in that midfield DMC-MC after that game
Its glaringly obvious ETH isn't the problem when you consider his squad has been absolutely decimated with injuries so give him one or two more years with a fighting chance.
All of the lower defensive line problems stem from the injuries. The back up players don’t have the pace the starting IX players have in defense. Licha and Shaw being injured causes a HUGE problem because of the lack of pace. Maguire, Evans and even Varane have shown their lack of ability to fill the space at the back when the rest of the team press high up the field. Ten Hag IN! It will only cause MORE problems to get rid now.
I think they should stick with ETH. Bring in some fresh legs and incentivize the squad in a different way than previous. Keep the base salaries low but keep some good bonuses for great achievments. Handle the media so that the players and coaches have less pressure and scrutiny. United will always be a big talking point, but sometimes you can come in and tell reporters to f*** off and do some proper work.
They should only stick with Ten Hag IF they believe he fits their criteria. He shouldn't stay just for the sake of staying, there has to be a reason why they're keeping him.
Hope
Next year
Onana ❤
Id stick with erik next season and give him a year under some sort of structure. If things improve and the right changes are made on the field, maybe extend his contract, if nothing changes, shake hands and let him be on his way.
Weve said it for years, massive changes are needed to the squad, 5 managers have come in and tried to implement their vision and the squad still contains players from each of those visions. Its a jigsaw puzzle containing 5 different jigsaws, it cant be solved until those pieces are taken out of the puzzle.
Finally an overlap video about United. Just what I’ve been waiting for
I’m ready to stand by the boards decision. Everything else has failed so far and whether eth stays or goes there’s pros and cons to that.
First out door in order of worst out first. After ETH
Fernandes, Rashford, Sancho, McTominey,
Go and hire the best people from other premier league clubs seems the clear play. The City and Newcastle hires are clear game changers.
The 'Game Model' should also be factored against past successful Utd players, i.e. Keane, Stam, Rooney, Irwin, Scholes, Vidic, King Eric and RvN (+ non-Utd Muller & Kane) to determine the 'Utd-type' player. These aforementioned players have the Utd-character. Yes, Ronaldo, Giggs, Beckham, Rio, Bruno etc have an x-factor but they are allowed to flourish and excite only when we have had at least a couple of these character leaders in the squad.
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I think ETH's future depends on those executive heads of football and academy. They design and agree on the playing style intergrated with the club's then if ETH fits their ideologies then he stays otherwise he's gone. So realistically they are just starting the reset so I'm sure ETH will complete his term at United.
ineos are doing what all large companies do. They add layers of management that take vast amounts of money out of the business for very little gain.
If ETH stays, then we need new coaches behind him. Something isn't working. SAF used to change the first team coach often, keeps a freshness of ideas. This is what we need.
Wow, we're still having this conversation...
ETH was appointed in 2022 not 2021, how can you get details like that wrong lol
I spotted that straight away
if the structure above the manager is good enough then in theory any manager can be in that structure and do well, but why would you get rid of Ten Hag thats shown that he can win trophies under a structure that was non existent. We all new this would take at least 4/5 seasons to get to a standard were we can challenge.
What's annoying me is that whilst Ineos is still trying to restructure all our competitors are getting better and overtaken us so more catching up to do. I think Ineos are going to realise that the Glazers are tighter than a ducks arse when it comes to money, i wonder if they will continue to leach off the club aswell.
Good video and analysis
IN : Sebastian Hoeness - Gerard Moreno - Dani Olmo - Matheus Nunes - Mikel Merino - Mikel Oyarzabal - Kieran Tierney - Andreas Christensen - Jarrad Branthwaite - Marcos Llorente - Unai Simon.
Out : A lot.
This got to be a joke
@@Literallyme1234 Why ?
@@thomasgundersen8975for starters, Gerard Moreno lacks the physicality for the Premier League and the goalkeeper doesn’t need replacing.
You think this is fifa
@@ArthurMathebula-cb2dp You can read my reply to astlavista if you are interested.
Our way of playing and team structure has clear flaws which is why teams find it so easy to play against us, ten hag must accept responsibility for that and improve going forward if he is to stay. Maybe if he came together with Ashworth and Wilcox and they agreed upon a different way of playing going forward, then I say give him next year, if he doesn't agree he should be replaced.
This is not absolving the players of all responsibility as we still need an overhaul, but they haven't been helped at all by Ten Hag's playing style.
Of course you keep ETH. He deserves a chance to benefit from the new structure. The powers above him spaffing 80m+ on Antony thus having no money for other transfers isn't on him. His style at Ajax would be great at United, give him the personnel.
Good start sir ratty
From this video it seems sir Jim is the coach but what does he know coaching, tactics. Would need his business acumen to sort out the infrastructure and player contracts and leave the coaching to the coaches.
The recruitment process needs to begin with the defense as the priority. United can't endure another season of defensive disasters. Everything else is a bonus. As for the manager, I'm not convinced ETH is the right fit, but I'm intrigued by SJR's direction. If SJR backs ETH, I'll trust their judgment.
Sell:-
Heaton
Lindelof
Varane
Wan-Bissaka
Brandon Williams
Jonny Evens
Amrabat(Return)
Eriksen
Van de Beek
Casemiro
Pallistri
Hannibal
Martial
Sancho
Shoretire
Greenwood
Keep:-
Antony(1 season more)
Garnacho
Hojlund
Rashford (1 season more)
Mount
Bruno
Mainoo
Amad
Martinez
Dalot
Kambwala
Onana
Squad Players(sell next season):-
Bayindir
Maguire
Shaw
Malacia
McTominay
Loan:-
Dan Gore
Omari Forson
Alvero Fernandez
Will Fish
Joe Hugill
Charlie McnMcneill
Ethan Ennis
Ethan Wheatley