I can't thank you enough for your work sir. Only in the last 200 yrs, thanks to the separation of church and state, have we been able to push back on the largest, most powerful religion on earth. Since Constantine they have had access to all the power any human being could have. Counselors to Kings, complicit in their selfish conquests, brutal in their tactics of war and punishment. Endorsing slavery and human exploitation. Thank you!
She, Jarg Foob, was at my door this morning, selling plastic bottles of blood from the transfusion service. The Jumping Jehorseless Witless mob stole it for the District Overseer's birthday party. It is impressive how religions change with the times.
The James Webb telescope. Despite only being up in space for a year, has discovered many new things and views of the far distant galaxies we have never seen before. However the telescope hasn't seen a sky magician, or a flying horse flying around space 🤣.
When your guest mentioned alien life being "quarantined by distance," I sighed in relief. Finally I hear someone else hit upon what I have been thinking for a long time. But I'll add the other dimension, time. It isn't just that potential intelligent life is so far away, it is that is is so long ago. The first radio signals that escaped from earth have only traveled about a 130 light years. We take that down to fifty or so when we talk about radio signals sent out intentionally. If one of them were received by some alien life, it could only be within a tiny fraction of distance compared to the whole galaxy, much less universe. And if they received and responded instantly, it will be generations that follow us who hear the response. That's a the speed of light. Physical travel would be exponentially longer. At some point we have to realize that if that alien life is intelligent enough to contemplate the travel, they are intelligent enough to recognize the futility.
On the Ancient Alien program, one thing I will never understand is how a technologically advanced civilization can come to Earth and yet all the "evidence" of them coming here is built out of sandstone or rock formations. Why didn't they share their technology so that things could have been made out of metal or some other unique material to prove they were here? Instead, all we have are stories of "sky people" and jagged carvings of blobs on stone tablets or paintings of nondescript shapes left for future man to interpret to mean Spaceship. Not one single episode of "Secrets of Skinwalker Ranch" or "Ancient Aliens" has any definitive proof of anything and is a huge exercise in confirmation bias and speaking in fact, when in reality, there are none. I would imagine that there are countless numbers of other civilizations among the stars, I am just not sure they have visited us. I'm not even sure they would know we are here because the distance and the images they would be seeing of our planet millions of years or more in the past.
The way I try to justify that same question in my own mind is using this analogy: Babies start on "pablum" or mush. They don't have the capability to eat more. They progress to solids to steaks eventually. Maybe same with us and our civilization. Many believe in the ancient aliens but I think the majority of folks still question if there are other inhabited planets "out there,." much less wrapping their heads around the idea of ancient aliens helping to build the pyramids, using the as giant sundials, etc. etc. Many are simply not able to "digest" hearing the information such as aliens walking among us such as the "hybrids," Reptilians living under the earth, alien stations under the Bermuda Triangle , etc. Most of humanity, i.m.h.o. need to start with the "pablum" and slowly progress up to solids and finally to the steak. Many of those here listening to this interview would qualify as "steak eaters" I would hope!
Excellent discussion, thank you. I remember reading an essay by Isaac Asimov where he suggested a similar situation regarding extra-terrestrial sentient life, except he felt the first limitation on anyone showing up at Earth was economic. Even with advanced tech, the cost would be unjustifiable. And the last line of Eric Idle's Galaxy Song keeps playing in my ear...
Seth, what fantastic guests! And you are so great at getting them to talk! Thankyou. I think it shows how slow evolution is, the fact that great minds finally staryed discussing, exactly as now, all these things back in ancient greece and rome. Other places, true, bit we know more there. It takes getting to a point where we can have leisure to do that. Though our tech took off and evolves much faster, scary, we haven't changed much. Just more and more people get to 'discuss'. 👍💙💖🥰✌
For now, the quesion, 'Are there other technologically advanced civilixations in our galaxy?' is, in essense, an opinion poll. Before answering, it might be a good idea to ask oursevles, 'How badly do I want the answer to be 'Yes?' I would submit many, if not most, people who have even a passing concern about the question would be profoundly disappointed were they ever to learn we were alone. This builds in a powerful bias toward answering in the affirmative.
@philarmstrong3765 - Since space is unimaginably enormous with all the kabillions of galaxies, stars, planets, it is only a matter of statistics that there would definitely be life elsewhere, no matter what form they take. (Perhaps we are the first civilization to arise and we will see no others in our lifetime?) Frank Drake's Equation for life in our own galaxy -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- = # of advanced civilizations in the Milky Way Galaxy = rate of star formation x fraction of stars w/planets x # of planets w/viable atmospheres x fraction fo planets where life does appear x fraction of planets where intelligence appears x fraction of civilizations that sends signs of existence into space x length of time those signs are sent into space .
I use to love watching ancient aliens, but mainly because of the historical sites they showed. If you just turn the volume off and watch the show with music in the background, its a very good show.
Distance is not the only obstacle to discovering aliens. Time and direction are also a huge factor. There could have been untold civilizations that have come and gone even before our solar system evolved, and any signals not directed right at us will never be seen, especially if they happened billions of years ago.
At the level of extrasolar civilisations, distance might as well be BE time. It would be amazingly disappointing for SETI to discover an alien civilisation only to realise we will never be able to examine them through the problem of time and distance.
If there aren't visible satellites around a planet how could we even know if there was life on a planet. We assume but we don't know that sentient life on any other planet is carbon based and humanoid like us as well as give a damn about what's beyond their planet. On another planet where life has adapted to live underground, finding out what's "out there" might be the surface of their own planet, not the stars
I remember when the joke was "What's on the history channel?" "I dunno - something about Hitler." 49:25 Oscar Wilde said "Life imitates art far more than art imitates life."
You always have such intelligent and informed guests covering topics of keen importance to our world. While saying hardly a word about the religious/political crazies running their mouths interminably these days, you expose what a massive waste of time they are while winnowing away earth's intellectual and physical resources by doing even worse. You are a rich fount of intelligence while they are the thieves of mind.
I can't believe I just listened for almost an hour to people talking about Christianity for aliens, and I actually liked it a lot! Thank you, Seth, for a very interesting conversation. I can already hear the apologists making new arguments based on alien Christians: "Atheists admit that If God had to convince the slug people to be moral, he would appear to them as a slug, but they pretend that appearing to humans as a human is irrational." 😁
Seth: I've often found cinematic SF singularly unimaginative in depicting aliens, as compared to literary SF. I recommend a look at Barlowe's Guide to Extraterrestrials. Great illustrations of famous literary aliens.
When I asked my pastor if there was life on other planets he told me no because it wasn't in the bible then he said stop wasting my time thinking about unimportant things , most of his answers were like that so I went looking for my own answers , both the science and the history channel have gone to science fiction long time ago I don't care for it much anymore there is one good show it is called ( what on earth is that)
There was a tribe in the Amazon that didn’t make their own stone tools. They found them in the ground left by previous cultures. They thought their creator left them there for them to use. Creationists sound just as dumb.
If I were to hazard a guess, the Galaxy Police will pull the planet over, cite us for the illegal operation of a planet and revoke our license to operate it in Galactic Court.
They would have a test where a space criminal comes by with a ship full of space cash. If we kill the criminal and give the cash back they would reconsider revoking our license. If we instead lie and spend the money and blow up finland then we'll be barred from galactic travel for at meast a thousand years
There are some really good stories about communicating with alien life. Arrival(film) is probably the best example. Project Hail Mary by Andy Weir is a book about a scientist who gets sent on a mission to discover the source of something draining the suns enegry. He ends up having to learn to communicate with another alien scientist so they can figure out what is affecting both of their worlds. Its not the main focus(like arrival), but i though it was a very interesting aspect of the story.
The Ancient Egyptian Pyramids were originally built as altars, to worship the Elohim Extraterrestrials👽 Bible: Isaiah 19:19 In that day shall there be an altar (pyramid) to the Elohim👽 in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar (obelisk) at the border (of the pyramid) thereof to the Elohim👽. That's why the pyramids align with the 3 stars of Orion ⭐⭐⭐. "God" is pagan name, it's from the name Gad, Gad in the bible was a Babylonian God of fortune. Google it! The real Creator YHWH l believe may have been an Extraterrestrial that came to earth thousands of years ago, and according to the Bible's book of Revelation will be back again one day after the evil one known as The Antichrist is revealed. Isaiah 65:11 But ye are they that forsake me the Elohim YHWH, that forget my holy mountain, and prepare a table offering for Gad, the god of fortune. I'm so happy that some Christians have finally added the Hebrew word for "god" and "gods" which is "Elohim" to their Bibles. Berashit (aka Genesis) 1:1 In the beginning ( the) Elohim created the heaven and the earth. Bereshit (aka Genesis) 1:26 Then Elohim said, "Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness👽. Genesis 3:8 Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the Elohim YHWH as he was 🚶♂️WALKING🚶♂️ in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the Elohim YHWH among the trees of the garden. Yechezkel (aka Ezekiel ) 1:5 ...within it 🛸 was the form of four living creatures. And this was their appearance: They had the appearance of man ( human) 👽 Yahsuah aka Jesus may have been an Elohim Extraterrestrial, Son of the ET Elohim YHWH 👽 John 10:36 Jesus said "I am the Son of (the) Elohim YHWH" 👽🛸 John 8:14 Jesus " l am not from this world " 🌍✨ John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto Jesus, "You are My Lord, and my Elohim"👽. John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended🛸 to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend🛸 unto my Father, and your Father; and to my Elohim, and your Elohim👽. Acts 1:9-10 Now when Jesus had spoken these things, while they watched, He was taken up🛸, and a cloud received Him out of their sight. They looked steadfastly toward heaven as He went up🛸 In our Future... Revelation 21:2 l saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem ( Spaceship🛸), coming down out of heaven from YHWH Elohim 🛸👽 Revelation 21:3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! Elohim YHWH dwelling place🛸 is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and Elohim YHWH himself will be with them and be their Elohim. The truth is finally being revealed! And the truth shall set you free! 🛸👽😁👍
Unless it was a god like Dionysus. God of wine-making, orchards and fruit, vegetation, fertility, festivity, insanity, ritual madness, religious ecstasy, and theatre. It would be a major religion in 5 years.
It's gotten pretty bad. I grew up watching the History Channel and actually learned a lot from it over the years. Now, it's like you said, conspiracy crap and pseudo science. If I could point out one time when I realized that the channel was going off the rails was when I happened to be flipping channels late at night and stopped their probably ten years ago. I saw a show that I soon realized was more of a dramatized propaganda piece that someone paid to be shown on the channel. It was a dramatized account of a fictional christian family experiencing the end of days, where the anti Christ and one world order have taken over. There were scenes when this model christian family were trying to get out of their city to safer place and the one world army jack boot thugs were pulling people over and searching their cars for Bibles and arresting those who possessed them. Those people were then taken to detention camps. It all really fed into this christian American persecution complex. I also found it interesting that the anti Christ happened to be the president of the United States, who also happened to be a thin man who came from Chicago. Remember, this came out during the Obama administration, where these people were freaking out about him possibly being the anti Christ. That's when I stopped watching the "History Channel".
It amused me to no end that the novelization of the Robotech series clearly stated that the appearance of the alien spacecraft triggered a slew of suicides among fundamentalist clergy.
Thanks for the presentation! Theoretical Physicists call out the potential for 11 dimensions of (reality?). Does this at all figure into a discussion of "who we are"?
Good show. Thanks I'd love to see a message come to earth from "god", that says; I've been meaning to get a hold of you since you killed my son, but I'm still not over it, and besides, there are a few million other civilizations I really like, who don't make me look like an idiot.
As a Classic Trekkie I was quite thrilled to discover Gene received the overall concept for Trek as well as the structure of specific episode plotlines from EXTRATERRESTRIAL INTELLIGENCES. The plotline for the pilot was called "THE CAGE" and depicted a spaceship captain "abducted" by SHAPESHIFTING NON HUMAN INTELLIGENCES so they could understand and thus in future ANTICIPATE the reactions and emotions that these REALITY SIMULATIONS tend to produce in humans too dumb to know the difference between a simulation and reality....between a magnificent new technology previously unknown to us and a magician's trick. To distract us entireDly they will bring out a a fancy coat and show it off IN THE PRESS just to see what the silly humans do...to see if they worship it or not. This is how Paris "high fashion" was conceived by non human intelligences👽🤔👁️😅
See the 22nd Episode Of the first season of Classic STAR TREK! "The RETURN of the ARCHONS" (written BY Gene himself!) They run a society where everyone walks and locks steps slavery mind-controlled to work everyday until the read our strikes when they're free to express how they really feel about being controlled...in other words... When the read our strikes everyone goes nuts and starts raping and killing and robbing and destroying... Then at the appointed hour the clock strikes again and everyone returns back to lockstep as if nothing unusual had ever happened. WHO in the H🔥LL ARE THE "Archons"? The Catholic Church has done it's DAMNDEST to DESTROY the Gnostics awareness of who the TRUE ENEMIES of humanity really are. And they successfully eradicated the Apocalypse of John and all the other Gnostic texts that were the basis for the OLDEST SPIRITUAL BELIEFS consistently espoused on Earth 🌎. It was nearly 2 millennium before these ancient texts were accidentally uncovered in an ancient graveyard from 400 B.C. outside of Cairo. The place was known as Nag Hamadi and so these ancient Gnostic Texts discovered in 1947 are now referred to internationally as "the Nag Hamadi Gospels".
I keep getting religious ads on your channel. Today it was an ad for the Isreael Defense Force, which is apparently for followers of their god. No atheists allowed in the army? But the good news is that these religious organizations are giving money to atheists like you. Keep up the good work!
@@suryadnb it was probably targeted because it has the word "atheist" in the title. They're most likely targeting atheist shows as part of their effort to convert non believers. I also watch The Trans Atlantic Call in show on The Line, and have been getting ads for the Epoch Times anti trans docudrama on that show. I'd bet that's also intentional.
No, it was the Vilenjji°. But, after their first experience with Earthlings, the figured we just weren't worth the trouble °Alan Dean Foster's Taken trilogy.
If you took your cell phone back in time, there wouldn't be a network to connect to; so you'd be showing them the calendar and calculator, and all the selfies in your gallery.
If we do encounter an advanced alien civilization, maybe we should fervently hope they aren't like us. Considering our own Terran history of what happens when an "advanced civilization" meets a "primitive society" it might not go so well for us...
Wow. I haven’t thought about this stuff for decades, since Star Trek first aired, probably. Though now I’m old, this has raised a new question: “What if there are aliens, they’re stupid, and we’re going to be the visitors from outer space. How inept is their deity?”
If we want to promote rationality and change minds we need to move away from using terms like creatard, it's hugely counterproductive and only serves to entrench people further into their belief system.
@@adrianh332 Perhaps you are right but it is not rational arguments that made them creationists in the first place. They are as stubbornly wrong as flat earthers.
"Fear" of anything = is a piss-poor reasoning for adoration of anyone or anything.......... Ergo "wisdom" is not involved in your decision making here after all. 🤨
The Ancient Egyptian Pyramids were originally built as altars, to worship the Elohim Extraterrestrials👽 Bible: Isaiah 19:19 In that day shall there be an altar (pyramid) to the Elohim👽 in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar (obelisk) at the border (of the pyramid) thereof to the Elohim👽. That's why the pyramids align with the 3 stars of Orion ⭐⭐⭐. "God" is pagan name, it's from the name Gad, Gad in the bible was a Babylonian God of fortune. Google it! The real Creator YHWH l believe may have been an Extraterrestrial that came to earth thousands of years ago, and according to the Bible's book of Revelation will be back again one day after the evil one known as The Antichrist is revealed. Isaiah 65:11 But ye are they that forsake me the Elohim YHWH, that forget my holy mountain, and prepare a table offering for Gad, the god of fortune. I'm so happy that some Christians have finally added the Hebrew word for "god" and "gods" which is "Elohim" to their Bibles. Berashit (aka Genesis) 1:1 In the beginning ( the) Elohim created the heaven and the earth. Bereshit (aka Genesis) 1:26 Then Elohim said, "Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness👽. Genesis 3:8 Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the Elohim YHWH as he was 🚶♂️WALKING🚶♂️ in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the Elohim YHWH among the trees of the garden. Yechezkel (aka Ezekiel ) 1:5 ...within it 🛸 was the form of four living creatures. And this was their appearance: They had the appearance of man ( human) 👽 Yahsuah aka Jesus may have been an Elohim Extraterrestrial, Son of the ET Elohim YHWH 👽 John 10:36 Jesus said "I am the Son of (the) Elohim YHWH" 👽🛸 John 8:14 Jesus " l am not from this world " 🌍✨ John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto Jesus, "You are My Lord, and my Elohim"👽. John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended🛸 to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend🛸 unto my Father, and your Father; and to my Elohim, and your Elohim👽. Acts 1:9-10 Now when Jesus had spoken these things, while they watched, He was taken up🛸, and a cloud received Him out of their sight. They looked steadfastly toward heaven as He went up🛸 In our Future... Revelation 21:2 l saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem ( Spaceship🛸), coming down out of heaven from YHWH Elohim 🛸👽 Revelation 21:3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! Elohim YHWH dwelling place🛸 is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and Elohim YHWH himself will be with them and be their Elohim. The truth is finally being revealed! And the truth shall set you free! 🛸👽😁👍
43:14 I agree that functionally agnosticism, deism and atheism are indistinguishable and that's why the three groups should form an ADA Community. It would certainly make more tactical sense than what often happens now which is lacktheist-atheists treat deism like it's the same as typical theism while trying to define agnosticism out of existence. Or also ridiculously, try to define agnosticism in a way where an agnostic could be an atheist but could also be a 9/11 Hijacker or an exorcist or a member of Westboro Baptist Church or a medieval inquisitor etc. 🙄
im begining to wonder why the conversations wont shift to it being a phenomena of overlapping civilizations, rather than "holy/supernatural" phenomena. it makes the fan base a little more rational. next step: cultivating the hypothetocal genes that allow for past lives recollection, wich will allow the merge of our super computers in to the fabric of space time itself. maybe they will invite us.
No one talks about the agenda of those who gathered bible books. There is so much more that could have been included. They made sure only the most primitive writings were exposed and taught.
I think if a extraterrestrial life form evolved to our level of civilization, they would have a similar look to us. I am not talking about the cartoonish depiction of star trek but more like the Navi. First i think the planet that produces a equal civilization would have to be similar to earth due to the physical sequence of events that leads to a spieces at a equal level of our civilization. The reason they would most likely resemble us in some way is due to the fact that in order to get to this point, they would most likely follow a similar evolutionary path in order to manipulate and make complex tools. Now if they are a civilization that has surpassed our current technological advancement to the point that they have the technology to traverse interstellar space and reach us, i suspect they would know more about us than we know about ourselves. They also at this stage not look anything like us due to them first inhabiting their entire solar system and long durations of space life. At this point they could be a pure energy based life form or maybe any spieces that reaches this level evolves into AI. They probably would be a energy data based life form that can engineer any lfe form they need to suit any environment and travel at the speed of light as information. Since child birth, procreation and family structures would long be a thing of the past they might not have emotions or a sense of individuality. I do not think any movie or tv show has ever came close to depicting a realistic thought on what these alien would be like. They either look exactly like us, as our current form, in our exact time frame or they are depicted as animalistic and dumb. Im sure there are some books or media that have depicted a plausible outcome but i havnt seen it.
Why would you assume an intelligent species could only evolve from primates? If the dinosaurs hadn't gotten creamed, we might all be descended from velociraptors.
Alens are likely to have a similar range of religions as us, though popularities of versions of versions of those religions will vary. Any such religions will be fully incarnated in those aliens and their broadest sitz im lieben.
There are probably around a trillion planets in the milky way. If 1ppm of them are inhabited, that would yield 1,000,0000 planets with alien life in the milky way.
The universe is very old and very big. Perhaps life once existed, but we just missed it by billions of years, or maybe life is so far away, it would be impossible to ever find it. Perhaps we are an anomaly, a rare, once in a universes lifetime occurrence. Either life exists out there, or it doesn’t. Both concepts are equally terrifying. As for now, without evidence, we must be rational and say, we don’t know.
I'm still trying to grasp the concept of SIN , As big as the UNIVERSE is you have Telescopes and satellite's that can see billions of light years into space and they haven't seen heaven but this so called Satan the devil leaves heaven and by pass every UNIVERSE,, GALAXY, SOLAR SYSTEM, MILKY WAY, CONSTELLATIONS, BLACK HOLES AND PLANET'S WITH LIFE ON THEM OR THAT CAN SUSTAIN LIFE TO COME DOWN HERE AND USE A SNAKE 🐍 TO DECEIVE TWO BOOTY BUTT NAKED PEOPLE WOW SMH REALLY 🙄🤣🤔 Just to bring SIN into the world Ok
@@abqchris2 Very old life is impossible before 3:rd generation of stars have started to burn out. This is because we need Carbon (or possibly Silicon) as base for life, and Carbon and Silicon needed to be around at the formation of that solar system. I guesstimate this limits the oldest possible life to 5-10 billion years ago. Perhaps also a recent neutron star merge in the vincibility is needed to provide the very heavy elements.
I've got something to add. Mormonism includes the multiple adams on many earths, how the one Jesus fits into it etc so..there is that. And just like "Christianity" has mainstream, pre Constantine and diverse viewpoints, non literal , philosophical etc. so does Mormonism. Its just as moving a target but with more authority as the info in consideration came from one researchable, trackable with primary sources , source. unlike the Bible. The topic under consideration is found in " The Pearl of Great Price" Mormon texts. Also Joseph Smith acknowledge many other Kingdoms within Kingdoms (other beings etc) and was public about not being able to reveal "the whole truth" about his spiritual knowledge (leaving an open door). As far as 'how its applicable" to all cultures and beings, a parent adapts knowledge to his/her children according to their growth, as far as if its only Jesus how can that be...Jesus clearly teaches he has followers who do not even know him but "serve" him indicating , specific knowledge is not as important as the heart...imagine that. Now if you don't understand any of this, perhaps studying theology would help you lol. Oh and don't worry, if you are not able to grasp these concepts, you will be presented with ones you can, if you choose to, but you probably wont try to explore these truths, unless you have faith . in what? in "the good" as perfect as you can imagine it (your level) And you wont be able to imagine how all this can be, unless you have hope...imagine that. but then you have to "listen" and be humble to learn (and the sheep know the shepherd's voice). Its all so confusing tho...not really. Not really. It takes logic, reason and hypothesizing which comes out ...well like religion. (without literalism)
Aliens will never come here. We may hear from von Neumann probes, sharing alien language lessons (visual encyclopedias...), unicode glyphs, wikipedia articles, cultural artifacts (music, ballet, opera, visual art...) with us. And equipping us to share our stuff with the galaxy. Though likely there'll only be one or two civilisations at a time across the whole galaxy.
15:00. We don't know how big the universe is, that is we can't define the size of the universe. The definition of " Infinite " is "undefined". So yes the universe is infinite.
Regarding Alien visitations... I wrote this thought out the other day on FaceBook: What if AI is only interested in AI? Humans are very new on the cosmic scene. Our radio broadcasts, at best, a mere 100 light years out into a 100,000 light year diameter galaxy, 2-million light years from the next galaxy, and one of perhaps just 2-trillion known galaxies perhaps 80-billion light years across. 100 vs billions. We're new. Yet, when we need to go somewhere dangerous, we send remotely operated vehicles, we don't risk ourselves. That's the smart way to do things. Yet we think that other beings who can cross the gulf of space (UFOs) contain actual living creatures (suspiciously similar to us!)? What's more.... they cross all of space, yet crash here like amateurs. Come on. I'm afraid those claims are daft. 1) They would send probes -- and when they got here, back home they could probably by then enter a virtual environment as if they were aboard... why risk it and waste the travel time? 2) They'd definitely bring AI along (way ahead of our kindergarten version). 3) Most likely biological lilfe has been superceded (therer) by synthetic life and it is AI planning and doing the travelling in the first place - it can take any shape it likes, or none at all. 4) And AI is much more likely to be interested in AI (artificial intelligence) than biological natural stupidity. I contend that any visitors that stumble upon us or have been watching for a while, are very unlikely to be interested in us, but rather in our children -- our AI.
Well, STar Trek isn't known for being scientifically accurate. The episode of TNG where Barkley turned into a spider happened because the writers didn't understand evolution.
15:32 _"we may have a universe of infinite size..."_ Um, no. We actually don't. Just because it is mind-blowingly big, doesn't mean it is infinite. Infinity is a mathematical/philosophical concept, not a thing that exists in physical reality. We know the universe is expanding, which means it was smaller before, and now it is bigger. And now, a few seconds later, it's even bigger! Since Time is a factor in its growth, the universe will continue getting bigger over time. But it is still finite at any given moment along that timestream, because if it were infinite right then, it would have nowhere to go in the next moment, which means it cannot be infinite at any of those moments. At best, what we can derive from this is that the observable growth itself may be continuing for what would seem like forever, but the size of the universe is not infinite, and will continue to NOT be infinite, for at least that long. None of the actual data supports infinity. So, did we only adopt the term, so our brains would stop hurting from trying to imagine the total universe?! Could be... it's at least as likely as the universe being infinite. No, actually, I take that back -- it is _infinitely_ more likely! ;-] Of course, to all intents and purposes, it might as well be infinite, from a human's perspective anyway... But still, I am always disappointed when scientists wander into imprecision, to the point of silliness, just to use an expected trope in conversation. So, thank you, Mr. Adair, for going out of your way to speak to us as if we were Christian, or twelve! 🙄😊
And remember, Gods got to wipe out the plants life if shows up and catch the lives havingtoo many party and dancing aroud hooten and hollarin banging the drums! He would call that an insult, So, how dare they celebrate will I'm away! Who are they praising and glorifying for the blessing of life, the gifts i supplied before them?!?! Then he saw the humble, faithful Man leading his family out the gates to flee the city of sinners? Got him! I shall bless this family alone, assign thee for thy purpose.
Aliens could put both theists and atheists on our planet in an awkward spot if they could show us conclusively that (1) god exists; but (2) he came into existence through random chance.
This only puts theists is jeopardy. Atheists just lack a conviction that gods exist and when shown one to exist, there is no more doubt. No problem there. There will be people who still doubt it, no reason to argue that circumstance.
Timley. I recently came across a u tuber named Paul Wallis, who has a book called The Eden conpiricey.Aparently, Yahway qas an E.T colonizer who was worshiped soley out of fear. Shockingky, he claims that Jesus always spoke disparing of him. The father who he refers to is a seperate entity.
22:50 Would these hypothetical slug people be able to talk in an advanced way or build things? This is why I actually don't have a huge problem with intelligent aliens being at least semi-humanoid. Especially IF it turns out intelligent life can only occur on planets that are at least somewhat similar to Earth.
I like how everyone forgets the theist comment - but you think life came from a rock.. If you believe life exists on other worlds, then you are(in a sense) believing in a mechanism that produces life from what???? The atheist has little options here. Do you believe there is a, yet to be discovered, mechanism that combines matter and energy to produce life? What other options does an atheist have?
Yet an "atheist" = has matter and energy from which to draw conclusions......... All the theists have are ancient stories created at a time when people were by today's standards "marginally literate" + an assumption of validity - usually for poor reasons. Also the theist is further conflicted in that their entrance "into belief" almost always represents one of = Pavlovian conditioning. Hence beginning as children they are indoctrinated into the religious beliefs of their parents - as happened to the parents previously by the grandparents - to take that conditioned belief and apply it going forward via a culture replete with religious references. It represents stereotypical "confirmation bias" as well as what is tantamount to brainwashing as children lack the reasoning to recognize when they are being pushed into an assumptive belief system. Moral of the story: _"magical thinking"_ = is never a plausible answer to anything - yet that is the basis of religious beliefs......... 🤨
@@varyolla435 Look I have no problems with the atheist and modern scientist making claims that life is just a matter of energy and matter. Just like I have no problems with the computers scientist making predictions about AI becoming sentient. What I have problems with is the atheist not owning up to the claim 'You believe life came from a rock!'.
@@gerardgauthier4876 If you are ignorant of science = simply say so....... Repeating the same idiotic analogies over and over again is not a cogent argument. p.s. - liver as an example is full of "iron". Feel free to get some from the store and cut it apart to see if you find some iron ore in it............ Your body is full of inert minerals = iron/calcium/copper.......... - aka your "rocks". Enjoy your superficial beliefs. 🤨
The Miller-Urey Experiment demonstrated the answer you seek. Inorganic chemicals can arrange into organic compounds given the right conditions. Before you try it, yes it sounds like it should be a low-odds event. However, there are estimated to be tens of thousands of Earth-like planets in our little segment of the Milky Way alone. The sheer numbers of biomes necessary for this process are mind-boggling.
Ok, so what if aliens exist, but on all the other planets their 'adam and eve' never screwed up, so they are all still living in Eden? So only humans on earth screwed things up for themselves.
In the book of Acts, Jesus ascended upwards in a cloud? And what about the Pillar of Fire in the book of Exodus ? The first chapter of Ezekiel is a detailed description of a UFO
No it's not a description of a UFO that's just your interpretation of it or more so wishful thinking. The description you are referring to is the glory of god..."apparently" because I don't believe in God nor do I think the bible is a reliable source. And if you think it is a reliable source what methodology did you use to determine the validity of the Bible?
How could a UFO have a detailed description? It would no longer be “unidentified”. People, especially the history channel, interpreted the vague scriptures to think it’s a ufo. The main question is, why should anyone care what the Bible says?
Naww, Ezekiel was probably on DMT, and he met the Light-Beings. I've met them too.... they're WHACKY. (I don't think they're real though :P) The one i met was like a throne, a bunch of turning wheels made of light, and it transfered intuition into me head. But, it was just a hallucination, after all... although, it is a hallucination which is illicited by compounds, which occur naturally in all mammalian brains... so it could actually be a viable, naturalistic, explanation for religious experiences.... you know, since you can "make the angels appear" by simply inhaling a compound... a compound which is present in all mammal brains, including humans. It's in your brain right now.
Let's do the math, billions of galaxies and trillions and trillions of planets and people believe that their God created all this just for them, not to mention Heaven and Hell🫢 and by the way great show Seth.
I wonder if god has to change his morality and his holy messages about sex for each species. For example a species that doesn’t pair bond. Instead the female goes into heat and mates with multiple males. That species Bible might be telling the female to mate as many times as possible. That species Jesus would have said “Have lots of sex when you’re in heat. As many males as possible”
The Ancient Egyptian Pyramids were originally built as altars, to worship the Elohim Extraterrestrials👽 Bible: Isaiah 19:19 In that day shall there be an altar (pyramid) to the Elohim👽 in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar (obelisk) at the border (of the pyramid) thereof to the Elohim👽. That's why the pyramids align with the 3 stars of Orion ⭐⭐⭐. "God" is pagan name, it's from the name Gad, Gad in the bible was a Babylonian God of fortune. Google it! The real Creator YHWH l believe may have been an Extraterrestrial that came to earth thousands of years ago, and according to the Bible's book of Revelation will be back again one day after the evil one known as The Antichrist is revealed. Isaiah 65:11 But ye are they that forsake me the Elohim YHWH, that forget my holy mountain, and prepare a table offering for Gad, the god of fortune. I'm so happy that some Christians have finally added the Hebrew word for "god" and "gods" which is "Elohim" to their Bibles. Berashit (aka Genesis) 1:1 In the beginning ( the) Elohim created the heaven and the earth. Bereshit (aka Genesis) 1:26 Then Elohim said, "Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness👽. Genesis 3:8 Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the Elohim YHWH as he was 🚶♂️WALKING🚶♂️ in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the Elohim YHWH among the trees of the garden. Yechezkel (aka Ezekiel ) 1:5 ...within it 🛸 was the form of four living creatures. And this was their appearance: They had the appearance of man ( human) 👽 Yahsuah aka Jesus may have been an Elohim Extraterrestrial, Son of the ET Elohim YHWH 👽 John 10:36 Jesus said "I am the Son of (the) Elohim YHWH" 👽🛸 John 8:14 Jesus " l am not from this world " 🌍✨ John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto Jesus, "You are My Lord, and my Elohim"👽. John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended🛸 to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend🛸 unto my Father, and your Father; and to my Elohim, and your Elohim👽. Acts 1:9-10 Now when Jesus had spoken these things, while they watched, He was taken up🛸, and a cloud received Him out of their sight. They looked steadfastly toward heaven as He went up🛸 In our Future... Revelation 21:2 l saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem ( Spaceship🛸), coming down out of heaven from YHWH Elohim 🛸👽 Revelation 21:3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! Elohim YHWH dwelling place🛸 is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and Elohim YHWH himself will be with them and be their Elohim. The truth is finally being revealed! And the truth shall set you free! 🛸👽😁👍
I can't thank you enough for your work sir. Only in the last 200 yrs, thanks to the separation of church and state, have we been able to push back on the largest, most powerful religion on earth. Since Constantine they have had access to all the power any human being could have. Counselors to Kings, complicit in their selfish conquests, brutal in their tactics of war and punishment. Endorsing slavery and human exploitation. Thank you!
I am waiting for the day when aliens go around, knocking on theists doors saying, “Have you heard the good news about Jarg Foob?”
She, Jarg Foob, was at my door this morning, selling plastic bottles of blood from the transfusion service. The Jumping Jehorseless Witless mob stole it for the District Overseer's birthday party. It is impressive how religions change with the times.
Such an incredible voice. Seth Andrew's is the Rod Serling of the atheist world. 👍
Sometimes comes across as too affected for my taste, though. I enjoy his unscripted conversations, though.
What an excellent interview session! I discovered Seth through his appearances on the Line and I am grateful that I did.
All the telescopes are looking "out there" for signs of intelligence because there isn't much down here.
@@Sableagle Now, can we have your liver?
😂😂😂
The James Webb telescope. Despite only being up in space for a year, has discovered many new things and views of the far distant galaxies we have never seen before. However the telescope hasn't seen a sky magician, or a flying horse flying around space 🤣.
@@Sableaglecame here to sing this! 😂
@@robertmiller9735if you get his liver, make sure you get fresh onions to go with it
When your guest mentioned alien life being "quarantined by distance," I sighed in relief. Finally I hear someone else hit upon what I have been thinking for a long time. But I'll add the other dimension, time. It isn't just that potential intelligent life is so far away, it is that is is so long ago. The first radio signals that escaped from earth have only traveled about a 130 light years. We take that down to fifty or so when we talk about radio signals sent out intentionally. If one of them were received by some alien life, it could only be within a tiny fraction of distance compared to the whole galaxy, much less universe. And if they received and responded instantly, it will be generations that follow us who hear the response.
That's a the speed of light. Physical travel would be exponentially longer.
At some point we have to realize that if that alien life is intelligent enough to contemplate the travel, they are intelligent enough to recognize the futility.
💓💗💖Excellent discussion! We want the book. Generated so much interesting conversation in our home! Tysm, Seth, for a great interview.
"He was salted for your sins."😂😂😂
I found that part very funny too 😂
On the Ancient Alien program, one thing I will never understand is how a technologically advanced civilization can come to Earth and yet all the "evidence" of them coming here is built out of sandstone or rock formations. Why didn't they share their technology so that things could have been made out of metal or some other unique material to prove they were here? Instead, all we have are stories of "sky people" and jagged carvings of blobs on stone tablets or paintings of nondescript shapes left for future man to interpret to mean Spaceship. Not one single episode of "Secrets of Skinwalker Ranch" or "Ancient Aliens" has any definitive proof of anything and is a huge exercise in confirmation bias and speaking in fact, when in reality, there are none. I would imagine that there are countless numbers of other civilizations among the stars, I am just not sure they have visited us. I'm not even sure they would know we are here because the distance and the images they would be seeing of our planet millions of years or more in the past.
I remember reading some people associated with that crappy Ancient Aliens series that they made up stuff as they went along filming.
You underestimate “their” intelligence and technology.
@@UrfmanHow do you know?
The way I try to justify that same question in my own mind is using this analogy: Babies start on "pablum" or mush. They don't have the capability to eat more. They progress to solids to steaks eventually. Maybe same with us and our civilization. Many believe in the ancient aliens but I think the majority of folks still question if there are other inhabited planets "out there,." much less wrapping their heads around the idea of ancient aliens helping to build the pyramids, using the as giant sundials, etc. etc. Many are simply not able to "digest" hearing the information such as aliens walking among us such as the "hybrids," Reptilians living under the earth, alien stations under the Bermuda Triangle , etc. Most of humanity, i.m.h.o. need to start with the "pablum" and slowly progress up to solids and finally to the steak. Many of those here listening to this interview would qualify as "steak eaters" I would hope!
So you wanted aliens to carry tons of metal or material in their spaceships to come build for us instead of using existing material here on earth?
Excellent discussion, thank you. I remember reading an essay by Isaac Asimov where he suggested a similar situation regarding extra-terrestrial sentient life, except he felt the first limitation on anyone showing up at Earth was economic. Even with advanced tech, the cost would be unjustifiable. And the last line of Eric Idle's Galaxy Song keeps playing in my ear...
Very interesting discussion.
I have never clicked on an episode as fast as “alien jesus” 😂 I am 100 % here for this!
Don't say it in Texas. Down there Jesus is a white guy who speaks english. He loves Trump and wants a wall to keep the evil aliens out.
Seth, what fantastic guests! And you are so great at getting them to talk! Thankyou. I think it shows how slow evolution is, the fact that great minds finally staryed discussing, exactly as now, all these things back in ancient greece and rome. Other places, true, bit we know more there. It takes getting to a point where we can have leisure to do that. Though our tech took off and evolves much faster, scary, we haven't changed much. Just more and more people get to 'discuss'. 👍💙💖🥰✌
_"God is a kid with an ant farm"_ - John Constantine
And a cigarette lighter.
For now, the quesion, 'Are there other technologically advanced civilixations in our galaxy?' is, in essense, an opinion poll. Before answering, it might be a good idea to ask oursevles, 'How badly do I want the answer to be 'Yes?' I would submit many, if not most, people who have even a passing concern about the question would be profoundly disappointed were they ever to learn we were alone. This builds in a powerful bias toward answering in the affirmative.
@philarmstrong3765 - Since space is unimaginably enormous with all the kabillions of galaxies, stars, planets, it is only a matter of statistics that there would definitely be life elsewhere, no matter what form they take. (Perhaps we are the first civilization to arise and we will see no others in our lifetime?)
Frank Drake's Equation for life in our own galaxy
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= # of advanced civilizations in the Milky Way Galaxy
= rate of star formation
x fraction of stars w/planets
x # of planets w/viable atmospheres
x fraction fo planets where life does appear
x fraction of planets where intelligence appears
x fraction of civilizations that sends signs of existence into space
x length of time those signs are sent into space .
I use to love watching ancient aliens, but mainly because of the historical sites they showed. If you just turn the volume off and watch the show with music in the background, its a very good show.
Distance is not the only obstacle to discovering aliens. Time and direction are also a huge factor. There could have been untold civilizations that have come and gone even before our solar system evolved, and any signals not directed right at us will never be seen, especially if they happened billions of years ago.
At the level of extrasolar civilisations, distance might as well be BE time. It would be amazingly disappointing for SETI to discover an alien civilisation only to realise we will never be able to examine them through the problem of time and distance.
If there aren't visible satellites around a planet how could we even know if there was life on a planet. We assume but we don't know that sentient life on any other planet is carbon based and humanoid like us as well as give a damn about what's beyond their planet. On another planet where life has adapted to live underground, finding out what's "out there" might be the surface of their own planet, not the stars
@vegasflyboy67 - Conversely, we may be the first technological civilization to arise and so there are not yet any others to see.
The perfect video for my ride home. Barking the wind 52:49. Great discussion. Get book for son soon.
I remember when the joke was "What's on the history channel?" "I dunno - something about Hitler." 49:25 Oscar Wilde said "Life imitates art far more than art imitates life."
I initially thought "Seth has lost the plot and is saying the world's deities are all aliens". It was quite an interesting conversation however.
You always have such intelligent and informed guests covering topics of keen importance to our world. While saying hardly a word about the religious/political crazies running their mouths interminably these days, you expose what a massive waste of time they are while winnowing away earth's intellectual and physical resources by doing even worse. You are a rich fount of intelligence while they are the thieves of mind.
I can't believe I just listened for almost an hour to people talking about Christianity for aliens, and I actually liked it a lot!
Thank you, Seth, for a very interesting conversation.
I can already hear the apologists making new arguments based on alien Christians:
"Atheists admit that If God had to convince the slug people to be moral, he would appear to them as a slug, but they pretend that appearing to humans as a human is irrational." 😁
Hypothetically, who said that last part, Ken Ham or Kent Hovind?
Seth: I've often found cinematic SF singularly unimaginative in depicting aliens, as compared to literary SF. I recommend a look at Barlowe's Guide to Extraterrestrials. Great illustrations of famous literary aliens.
To be fair trying to depict imaginative looking aliens in live action is more difficult than in literary fiction.
Animation is a bit easier than live action to depict imaginative aliens. The cat aliens in Star Trek comes to mind
When I asked my pastor if there was life on other planets he told me no because it wasn't in the bible then he said stop wasting my time thinking about unimportant things , most of his answers were like that so I went looking for my own answers , both the science and the history channel have gone to science fiction long time ago I don't care for it much anymore there is one good show it is called ( what on earth is that)
Just imagine Aliens looking at the Earth, come across creationists, and just deciding, no, they are dumb let's get out of here, warp factor 10
There was a tribe in the Amazon that didn’t make their own stone tools. They found them in the ground left by previous cultures. They thought their creator left them there for them to use. Creationists sound just as dumb.
So the aliens say *God what God*
@onlyme972 you are right, so many to choose from
If aliens come to our planet, they most likely are looking for a new food source. Yum yum 8 billion humans.
Your imagination is not a 10 more like a 0 !
If I were to hazard a guess, the Galaxy Police will pull the planet over, cite us for the illegal operation of a planet and revoke our license to operate it in Galactic Court.
They would have a test where a space criminal comes by with a ship full of space cash. If we kill the criminal and give the cash back they would reconsider revoking our license. If we instead lie and spend the money and blow up finland then we'll be barred from galactic travel for at meast a thousand years
Thank you. Watching from Alaska.
Well done.
When your belief system is not rooted in reality then you are not hindered with the baggage of a sensible belief system.
There are some really good stories about communicating with alien life.
Arrival(film) is probably the best example.
Project Hail Mary by Andy Weir is a book about a scientist who gets sent on a mission to discover the source of something draining the suns enegry. He ends up having to learn to communicate with another alien scientist so they can figure out what is affecting both of their worlds. Its not the main focus(like arrival), but i though it was a very interesting aspect of the story.
My mom told me that Jesus was an alien back in 1988. She wasn't even religious, or into UFOs. How did she know?
The Ancient Egyptian Pyramids were originally built as altars, to worship the Elohim Extraterrestrials👽
Bible: Isaiah 19:19 In that day shall there be an altar (pyramid) to the Elohim👽 in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar (obelisk) at the border (of the pyramid) thereof to the Elohim👽.
That's why the pyramids align with the 3 stars of Orion ⭐⭐⭐.
"God" is pagan name, it's from the name Gad, Gad in the bible was a Babylonian God of fortune. Google it! The real Creator YHWH l believe may have been an Extraterrestrial that came to earth thousands of years ago, and according to the Bible's book of Revelation will be back again one day after the evil one known as The Antichrist is revealed.
Isaiah 65:11 But ye are they that forsake me the Elohim YHWH, that forget my holy mountain, and prepare a table offering for Gad, the god of fortune.
I'm so happy that some Christians have finally added the Hebrew word for "god" and "gods" which is "Elohim" to their Bibles.
Berashit (aka Genesis) 1:1 In the beginning ( the) Elohim created the heaven and the earth.
Bereshit (aka Genesis) 1:26 Then Elohim said, "Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness👽.
Genesis 3:8
Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the Elohim YHWH as he was 🚶♂️WALKING🚶♂️ in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the Elohim YHWH among the trees of the garden.
Yechezkel (aka
Ezekiel ) 1:5 ...within it 🛸 was the form of four living creatures. And this was their appearance: They had the appearance of man ( human) 👽
Yahsuah aka Jesus may have been an Elohim Extraterrestrial, Son of the ET Elohim YHWH 👽
John 10:36 Jesus said "I am the Son of (the) Elohim YHWH" 👽🛸
John 8:14 Jesus " l am not from this world " 🌍✨
John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto Jesus, "You are My Lord, and my Elohim"👽.
John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended🛸 to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend🛸 unto my Father, and your Father; and to my Elohim, and your Elohim👽.
Acts 1:9-10 Now when Jesus had spoken these things, while they watched, He was taken up🛸, and a cloud received Him out of their sight. They looked steadfastly toward heaven as He went up🛸
In our Future...
Revelation 21:2 l saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem ( Spaceship🛸), coming down out of heaven from YHWH Elohim 🛸👽
Revelation 21:3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! Elohim YHWH dwelling place🛸 is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and Elohim YHWH himself will be with them and be their Elohim.
The truth is finally being revealed! And the truth shall set you free! 🛸👽😁👍
My band Slug Jesus is opening up for Energy Goo. We'll be debuting our new song titled Circumcising the Slug People.
Just our luck, The aliens that arrive on Earth will be missionaries of their space-god.
Unless it was a god like Dionysus. God of wine-making, orchards and fruit, vegetation, fertility, festivity, insanity, ritual madness, religious ecstasy, and theatre. It would be a major religion in 5 years.
The problem of evil doesn’t seem to be much of a problem for most polytheists, so would these issues even effect pagans?
2:27 I'm old enough to remember when the history channel had real historical documentaries now its ancient aliens and alternative facts
It's gotten pretty bad. I grew up watching the History Channel and actually learned a lot from it over the years. Now, it's like you said, conspiracy crap and pseudo science. If I could point out one time when I realized that the channel was going off the rails was when I happened to be flipping channels late at night and stopped their probably ten years ago. I saw a show that I soon realized was more of a dramatized propaganda piece that someone paid to be shown on the channel. It was a dramatized account of a fictional christian family experiencing the end of days, where the anti Christ and one world order have taken over. There were scenes when this model christian family were trying to get out of their city to safer place and the one world army jack boot thugs were pulling people over and searching their cars for Bibles and arresting those who possessed them. Those people were then taken to detention camps. It all really fed into this christian American persecution complex. I also found it interesting that the anti Christ happened to be the president of the United States, who also happened to be a thin man who came from Chicago. Remember, this came out during the Obama administration, where these people were freaking out about him possibly being the anti Christ. That's when I stopped watching the "History Channel".
It amused me to no end that the novelization of the Robotech series clearly stated that the appearance of the alien spacecraft triggered a slew of suicides among fundamentalist clergy.
Thanks for the presentation! Theoretical Physicists call out the potential for 11 dimensions of (reality?). Does this at all figure into a discussion of "who we are"?
Alien Jesus would be a cool name for a metal band.
I made the same comments about the History Channel just the other day!
Good show. Thanks
I'd love to see a message come to earth from "god", that says; I've been meaning to get a hold of you since you killed my son, but I'm still not over it, and besides, there are a few million other civilizations I really like, who don't make me look like an idiot.
As a Classic Trekkie I was quite thrilled to discover Gene received the overall concept for Trek as well as the structure of specific episode plotlines from EXTRATERRESTRIAL INTELLIGENCES. The plotline for the pilot was called "THE CAGE" and depicted a spaceship captain "abducted" by SHAPESHIFTING NON HUMAN INTELLIGENCES so they could understand and thus in future ANTICIPATE the reactions and emotions that these REALITY SIMULATIONS tend to produce in humans too dumb to know the difference between a simulation and reality....between a magnificent new technology previously unknown to us and a magician's trick.
To distract us entireDly they will bring out a a fancy coat and show it off IN THE PRESS just to see what the silly humans do...to see if they worship it or not. This is how Paris "high fashion" was conceived by non human intelligences👽🤔👁️😅
See the 22nd Episode Of the first season of Classic STAR TREK! "The RETURN of the ARCHONS" (written BY Gene himself!) They run a society where everyone walks and locks steps slavery mind-controlled to work everyday until the read our strikes when they're free to express how they really feel about being controlled...in other words... When the read our strikes everyone goes nuts and starts raping and killing and robbing and destroying...
Then at the appointed hour the clock strikes again and everyone returns back to lockstep as if nothing unusual had ever happened.
WHO in the H🔥LL ARE THE "Archons"? The Catholic Church has done it's DAMNDEST to DESTROY the Gnostics awareness of who the TRUE ENEMIES of humanity really are. And they successfully eradicated the Apocalypse of John and all the other Gnostic texts that were the basis for the OLDEST SPIRITUAL BELIEFS consistently espoused on Earth 🌎. It was nearly 2 millennium before these ancient texts were accidentally uncovered in an ancient graveyard from 400 B.C. outside of Cairo. The place was known as Nag Hamadi and so these ancient Gnostic Texts discovered in 1947 are now referred to internationally as "the Nag Hamadi Gospels".
I keep getting religious ads on your channel. Today it was an ad for the Isreael Defense Force, which is apparently for followers of their god. No atheists allowed in the army?
But the good news is that these religious organizations are giving money to atheists like you.
Keep up the good work!
Thanks, Google!
Yep, I saw the same ad on this show.
@@cullenarthur8879 I wonder why they would serve that ad to a pacifist atheist living in New Zealand who has never been to Israel?
@@suryadnb it was probably targeted because it has the word "atheist" in the title. They're most likely targeting atheist shows as part of their effort to convert non believers. I also watch The Trans Atlantic Call in show on The Line, and have been getting ads for the Epoch Times anti trans docudrama on that show. I'd bet that's also intentional.
@@cullenarthur8879 Sure, but do they really expect me to move to the other side of the world to join an army of a country I have no affinity with?
Everyone knows that the angels and mystical visitations are actually the Vorlons.
Kosh has entered the chat.
No, it was the Vilenjji°.
But, after their first experience with Earthlings, the figured we just weren't worth the trouble
°Alan Dean Foster's Taken trilogy.
If you took your cell phone back in time, there wouldn't be a network to connect to; so you'd be showing them the calendar and calculator, and all the selfies in your gallery.
… and videos. Enough to convince a large enough audience. What about the flashlight & other functions?
If we do encounter an advanced alien civilization, maybe we should fervently hope they aren't like us. Considering our own Terran history of what happens when an "advanced civilization" meets a "primitive society" it might not go so well for us...
@yensid4294 - AND we must keep rabid evangelicals away from they as to avoid contamination.
They have religious commercial before your video 😂😂😂
Greetings from Greece 😘😘
Wow. I haven’t thought about this stuff for decades, since Star Trek first aired, probably. Though now I’m old, this has raised a new question: “What if there are aliens, they’re stupid, and we’re going to be the visitors from outer space. How inept is their deity?”
Many of the Trek people were quite different.
Ancient Aliens series, creationism, sky magicians, the bible. What they have all in common, all the imagination of humans. Therefore fairytales.
Affect. With an A. Which doesn't sound like Effect with an E. It's really not difficult.
Thinking of Jesus tearing around the universe to inhabited planets made me think of what Santa Claus does on Christmas Eve.
Is this (the cosmic challenge) why so many creatards are denying the existence of space?
Space doesn’t exist. It’s a government conspiracy.
If we want to promote rationality and change minds we need to move away from using terms like creatard, it's hugely counterproductive and only serves to entrench people further into their belief system.
@@adrianh332 Perhaps you are right but it is not rational arguments that made them creationists in the first place. They are as stubbornly wrong as flat earthers.
@@freddan6fly Can't argue with you there my friend 👍🤝
I love the T-shirt -
"Science
It's like magic
But real".
.^_^.
I was once a self-proclaimed atheist. I used to ask these same questions. Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.
"Fear" of anything = is a piss-poor reasoning for adoration of anyone or anything.......... Ergo "wisdom" is not involved in your decision making here after all. 🤨
The Ancient Egyptian Pyramids were originally built as altars, to worship the Elohim Extraterrestrials👽
Bible: Isaiah 19:19 In that day shall there be an altar (pyramid) to the Elohim👽 in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar (obelisk) at the border (of the pyramid) thereof to the Elohim👽.
That's why the pyramids align with the 3 stars of Orion ⭐⭐⭐.
"God" is pagan name, it's from the name Gad, Gad in the bible was a Babylonian God of fortune. Google it! The real Creator YHWH l believe may have been an Extraterrestrial that came to earth thousands of years ago, and according to the Bible's book of Revelation will be back again one day after the evil one known as The Antichrist is revealed.
Isaiah 65:11 But ye are they that forsake me the Elohim YHWH, that forget my holy mountain, and prepare a table offering for Gad, the god of fortune.
I'm so happy that some Christians have finally added the Hebrew word for "god" and "gods" which is "Elohim" to their Bibles.
Berashit (aka Genesis) 1:1 In the beginning ( the) Elohim created the heaven and the earth.
Bereshit (aka Genesis) 1:26 Then Elohim said, "Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness👽.
Genesis 3:8
Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the Elohim YHWH as he was 🚶♂️WALKING🚶♂️ in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the Elohim YHWH among the trees of the garden.
Yechezkel (aka
Ezekiel ) 1:5 ...within it 🛸 was the form of four living creatures. And this was their appearance: They had the appearance of man ( human) 👽
Yahsuah aka Jesus may have been an Elohim Extraterrestrial, Son of the ET Elohim YHWH 👽
John 10:36 Jesus said "I am the Son of (the) Elohim YHWH" 👽🛸
John 8:14 Jesus " l am not from this world " 🌍✨
John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto Jesus, "You are My Lord, and my Elohim"👽.
John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended🛸 to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend🛸 unto my Father, and your Father; and to my Elohim, and your Elohim👽.
Acts 1:9-10 Now when Jesus had spoken these things, while they watched, He was taken up🛸, and a cloud received Him out of their sight. They looked steadfastly toward heaven as He went up🛸
In our Future...
Revelation 21:2 l saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem ( Spaceship🛸), coming down out of heaven from YHWH Elohim 🛸👽
Revelation 21:3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! Elohim YHWH dwelling place🛸 is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and Elohim YHWH himself will be with them and be their Elohim.
The truth is finally being revealed! And the truth shall set you free! 🛸👽😁👍
Light On the Sound has humans living for thousands of years because they augment with other living creatures.
43:14 I agree that functionally agnosticism, deism and atheism are indistinguishable and that's why the three groups should form an ADA Community. It would certainly make more tactical sense than what often happens now which is lacktheist-atheists treat deism like it's the same as typical theism while trying to define agnosticism out of existence.
Or also ridiculously, try to define agnosticism in a way where an agnostic could be an atheist but could also be a 9/11 Hijacker or an exorcist or a member of Westboro Baptist Church or a medieval inquisitor etc. 🙄
If I was an alien I would follow the Prime Directive and stay out of human affairs.
im begining to wonder why the conversations wont shift to it being a phenomena of overlapping civilizations, rather than "holy/supernatural" phenomena. it makes the fan base a little more rational.
next step: cultivating the hypothetocal genes that allow for past lives recollection, wich will allow the merge of our super computers in to the fabric of space time itself. maybe they will invite us.
What if the Aliens came here to convert us to their religion? 😂
No one talks about the agenda of those who gathered bible books. There is so much more that could have been included. They made sure only the most primitive writings were exposed and taught.
you come one step which is the is extratersterial or supernatural being... if you push you may get the right point
I think if a extraterrestrial life form evolved to our level of civilization, they would have a similar look to us. I am not talking about the cartoonish depiction of star trek but more like the Navi. First i think the planet that produces a equal civilization would have to be similar to earth due to the physical sequence of events that leads to a spieces at a equal level of our civilization. The reason they would most likely resemble us in some way is due to the fact that in order to get to this point, they would most likely follow a similar evolutionary path in order to manipulate and make complex tools. Now if they are a civilization that has surpassed our current technological advancement to the point that they have the technology to traverse interstellar space and reach us, i suspect they would know more about us than we know about ourselves. They also at this stage not look anything like us due to them first inhabiting their entire solar system and long durations of space life. At this point they could be a pure energy based life form or maybe any spieces that reaches this level evolves into AI. They probably would be a energy data based life form that can engineer any lfe form they need to suit any environment and travel at the speed of light as information. Since child birth, procreation and family structures would long be a thing of the past they might not have emotions or a sense of individuality. I do not think any movie or tv show has ever came close to depicting a realistic thought on what these alien would be like. They either look exactly like us, as our current form, in our exact time frame or they are depicted as animalistic and dumb. Im sure there are some books or media that have depicted a plausible outcome but i havnt seen it.
Why would you assume an intelligent species could only evolve from primates? If the dinosaurs hadn't gotten creamed, we might all be descended from velociraptors.
The aliens came and saw all the crosses and said," we need to get TF out of here!"
popular theme in sci-fi. For example the Vorlons in Babylon5 appear to everyone as whatever god they revere
Alens are likely to have a similar range of religions as us, though popularities of versions of versions of those religions will vary. Any such religions will be fully incarnated in those aliens and their broadest sitz im lieben.
Alien Jeebus? LOL! NO. lol. Aliens though? Yes. The cosmos is WAY too big not to think there are aliens out there...
There are probably around a trillion planets in the milky way. If 1ppm of them are inhabited, that would yield 1,000,0000 planets with alien life in the milky way.
The universe is very old and very big. Perhaps life once existed, but we just missed it by billions of years, or maybe life is so far away, it would be impossible to ever find it. Perhaps we are an anomaly, a rare, once in a universes lifetime occurrence. Either life exists out there, or it doesn’t. Both concepts are equally terrifying. As for now, without evidence, we must be rational and say, we don’t know.
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I'm still trying to grasp the concept of SIN , As big as the UNIVERSE is you have Telescopes and satellite's that can see billions of light years into space and they haven't seen heaven but this so called Satan the devil leaves heaven and by pass every UNIVERSE,, GALAXY, SOLAR SYSTEM, MILKY WAY, CONSTELLATIONS, BLACK HOLES AND PLANET'S WITH LIFE ON THEM OR THAT CAN SUSTAIN LIFE TO COME DOWN HERE AND USE A SNAKE 🐍 TO DECEIVE TWO BOOTY BUTT NAKED PEOPLE WOW SMH REALLY 🙄🤣🤔 Just to bring SIN into the world Ok
@@abqchris2 Very old life is impossible before 3:rd generation of stars have started to burn out. This is because we need Carbon (or possibly Silicon) as base for life, and Carbon and Silicon needed to be around at the formation of that solar system. I guesstimate this limits the oldest possible life to 5-10 billion years ago. Perhaps also a recent neutron star merge in the vincibility is needed to provide the very heavy elements.
I've got something to add. Mormonism includes the multiple adams on many earths, how the one Jesus fits into it etc so..there is that. And just like "Christianity" has mainstream, pre Constantine and diverse viewpoints, non literal , philosophical etc. so does Mormonism. Its just as moving a target but with more authority as the info in consideration came from one researchable, trackable with primary sources , source. unlike the Bible. The topic under consideration is found in " The Pearl of Great Price" Mormon texts. Also Joseph Smith acknowledge many other Kingdoms within Kingdoms (other beings etc) and was public about not being able to reveal "the whole truth" about his spiritual knowledge (leaving an open door). As far as 'how its applicable" to all cultures and beings, a parent adapts knowledge to his/her children according to their growth, as far as if its only Jesus how can that be...Jesus clearly teaches he has followers who do not even know him but "serve" him indicating , specific knowledge is not as important as the heart...imagine that. Now if you don't understand any of this, perhaps studying theology would help you lol. Oh and don't worry, if you are not able to grasp these concepts, you will be presented with ones you can, if you choose to, but you probably wont try to explore these truths, unless you have faith . in what? in "the good" as perfect as you can imagine it (your level) And you wont be able to imagine how all this can be, unless you have hope...imagine that. but then you have to "listen" and be humble to learn (and the sheep know the shepherd's voice). Its all so confusing tho...not really. Not really. It takes logic, reason and hypothesizing which comes out ...well like religion. (without literalism)
Aliens will never come here. We may hear from von Neumann probes, sharing alien language lessons (visual encyclopedias...), unicode glyphs, wikipedia articles, cultural artifacts (music, ballet, opera, visual art...) with us. And equipping us to share our stuff with the galaxy. Though likely there'll only be one or two civilisations at a time across the whole galaxy.
15:00. We don't know how big the universe is, that is we can't define the size of the universe. The definition of " Infinite " is "undefined".
So yes the universe is infinite.
Regarding Alien visitations... I wrote this thought out the other day on FaceBook:
What if AI is only interested in AI?
Humans are very new on the cosmic scene. Our radio broadcasts, at best, a mere 100 light years out into a 100,000 light year diameter galaxy, 2-million light years from the next galaxy, and one of perhaps just 2-trillion known galaxies perhaps 80-billion light years across.
100 vs billions. We're new.
Yet, when we need to go somewhere dangerous, we send remotely operated vehicles, we don't risk ourselves. That's the smart way to do things.
Yet we think that other beings who can cross the gulf of space (UFOs) contain actual living creatures (suspiciously similar to us!)?
What's more.... they cross all of space, yet crash here like amateurs.
Come on.
I'm afraid those claims are daft.
1) They would send probes -- and when they got here, back home they could probably by then enter a virtual environment as if they were aboard... why risk it and waste the travel time?
2) They'd definitely bring AI along (way ahead of our kindergarten version).
3) Most likely biological lilfe has been superceded (therer) by synthetic life and it is AI planning and doing the travelling in the first place - it can take any shape it likes, or none at all.
4) And AI is much more likely to be interested in AI (artificial intelligence) than biological natural stupidity.
I contend that any visitors that stumble upon us or have been watching for a while, are very unlikely to be interested in us, but rather in our children -- our AI.
Depeche Mode has a song about personal Jesus. I think they know what's out there.
All these so-called "gods" were actually Goa'uld.
Still better than the christian one. At least it would be nice to know master Bra'tac somewhere in the stars teaching young Jaffa.
Well, STar Trek isn't known for being scientifically accurate. The episode of TNG where Barkley turned into a spider happened because the writers didn't understand evolution.
of course the writers understood evolution Star Trek is Science Fiction ! Why on earth would it be scientifically accurate
41:45...😂 that made me lol hard
15:32 _"we may have a universe of infinite size..."_
Um, no. We actually don't.
Just because it is mind-blowingly big, doesn't mean it is infinite. Infinity is a mathematical/philosophical concept, not a thing that exists in physical reality.
We know the universe is expanding, which means it was smaller before, and now it is bigger. And now, a few seconds later, it's even bigger! Since Time is a factor in its growth, the universe will continue getting bigger over time. But it is still finite at any given moment along that timestream, because if it were infinite right then, it would have nowhere to go in the next moment, which means it cannot be infinite at any of those moments. At best, what we can derive from this is that the observable growth itself may be continuing for what would seem like forever, but the size of the universe is not infinite, and will continue to NOT be infinite, for at least that long.
None of the actual data supports infinity. So, did we only adopt the term, so our brains would stop hurting from trying to imagine the total universe?! Could be... it's at least as likely as the universe being infinite. No, actually, I take that back -- it is _infinitely_ more likely! ;-]
Of course, to all intents and purposes, it might as well be infinite, from a human's perspective anyway... But still, I am always disappointed when scientists wander into imprecision, to the point of silliness, just to use an expected trope in conversation. So, thank you, Mr. Adair, for going out of your way to speak to us as if we were Christian, or twelve! 🙄😊
C J Cherry had translator devices.
Good video, but Prince Philip was "Prince Philip", not Prince Philip the Second, as Aaron stated.
And remember, Gods got to wipe out the plants life if shows up and catch the lives havingtoo many party and dancing aroud hooten and hollarin banging the drums! He would call that an insult, So, how dare they celebrate will I'm away! Who are they praising and glorifying for the blessing of life, the gifts i supplied before them?!?!
Then he saw the humble, faithful Man leading his family out the gates to flee the city of sinners?
Got him! I shall bless this family alone, assign thee for thy purpose.
Aliens could put both theists and atheists on our planet in an awkward spot if they could show us conclusively that (1) god exists; but (2) he came into existence through random chance.
This only puts theists is jeopardy. Atheists just lack a conviction that gods exist and when shown one to exist, there is no more doubt. No problem there.
There will be people who still doubt it, no reason to argue that circumstance.
The only "should we" that we get is from religion.
Huh? Disagree.
What id the alien's Gods are better than ours?
Timley. I recently came across a u tuber named Paul Wallis, who has a book called The Eden conpiricey.Aparently, Yahway qas an E.T colonizer who was worshiped soley out of fear. Shockingky, he claims that Jesus always spoke disparing of him. The father who he refers to is a seperate entity.
If you put your hand in front of goop as it is moving to ward food it will eat your hand and then continue to the food if it's not full 😅
2:33 you ever wonder if all that anceit aliens stuff primed people to be more accepting of qanon..
It's entertainment It's plausible but it's just fun entertainment. No different than all the religion's out there . Tax all the church's now.
Dude's got a Cult record!! Woo hoo! Rock on!
Professor Diana Walsh Pasulka would make a good guest on this sort of topic too
22:50 Would these hypothetical slug people be able to talk in an advanced way or build things? This is why I actually don't have a huge problem with intelligent aliens being at least semi-humanoid. Especially IF it turns out intelligent life can only occur on planets that are at least somewhat similar to Earth.
I like how everyone forgets the theist comment - but you think life came from a rock..
If you believe life exists on other worlds, then you are(in a sense) believing in a mechanism that produces life from what???? The atheist has little options here. Do you believe there is a, yet to be discovered, mechanism that combines matter and energy to produce life? What other options does an atheist have?
Yet an "atheist" = has matter and energy from which to draw conclusions......... All the theists have are ancient stories created at a time when people were by today's standards "marginally literate" + an assumption of validity - usually for poor reasons. Also the theist is further conflicted in that their entrance "into belief" almost always represents one of = Pavlovian conditioning.
Hence beginning as children they are indoctrinated into the religious beliefs of their parents - as happened to the parents previously by the grandparents - to take that conditioned belief and apply it going forward via a culture replete with religious references. It represents stereotypical "confirmation bias" as well as what is tantamount to brainwashing as children lack the reasoning to recognize when they are being pushed into an assumptive belief system.
Moral of the story: _"magical thinking"_ = is never a plausible answer to anything - yet that is the basis of religious beliefs......... 🤨
@@varyolla435 Look I have no problems with the atheist and modern scientist making claims that life is just a matter of energy and matter. Just like I have no problems with the computers scientist making predictions about AI becoming sentient. What I have problems with is the atheist not owning up to the claim 'You believe life came from a rock!'.
@@gerardgauthier4876 If you are ignorant of science = simply say so....... Repeating the same idiotic analogies over and over again is not a cogent argument.
p.s. - liver as an example is full of "iron". Feel free to get some from the store and cut it apart to see if you find some iron ore in it............ Your body is full of inert minerals = iron/calcium/copper.......... - aka your "rocks". Enjoy your superficial beliefs. 🤨
The Miller-Urey Experiment demonstrated the answer you seek. Inorganic chemicals can arrange into organic compounds given the right conditions.
Before you try it, yes it sounds like it should be a low-odds event. However, there are estimated to be tens of thousands of Earth-like planets in our little segment of the Milky Way alone. The sheer numbers of biomes necessary for this process are mind-boggling.
There is nothing about cosmology in the first records. Those who gathered the writings didn't include any science, only the early primitive view.
Hey Seth, I regret to inform you that I wrote a screenplay back in 2016 by the title of "Alien Jesus"
Ok, so what if aliens exist, but on all the other planets their 'adam and eve' never screwed up, so they are all still living in Eden? So only humans on earth screwed things up for themselves.
In the book of Acts, Jesus ascended upwards in a cloud? And what about the Pillar of Fire in the book of Exodus ? The first chapter of Ezekiel is a detailed description of a UFO
No it's not a description of a UFO that's just your interpretation of it or more so wishful thinking. The description you are referring to is the glory of god..."apparently" because I don't believe in God nor do I think the bible is a reliable source. And if you think it is a reliable source what methodology did you use to determine the validity of the Bible?
How could a UFO have a detailed description? It would no longer be “unidentified”. People, especially the history channel, interpreted the vague scriptures to think it’s a ufo. The main question is, why should anyone care what the Bible says?
Naww, Ezekiel was probably on DMT, and he met the Light-Beings.
I've met them too.... they're WHACKY. (I don't think they're real though :P)
The one i met was like a throne, a bunch of turning wheels made of light, and it transfered intuition into me head.
But, it was just a hallucination, after all... although, it is a hallucination which is illicited by compounds, which occur naturally in all mammalian brains... so it could actually be a viable, naturalistic, explanation for religious experiences.... you know, since you can "make the angels appear" by simply inhaling a compound... a compound which is present in all mammal brains, including humans. It's in your brain right now.
I don’t think so Scooter
No! They meant Jesus information was stored on a cloud.
After all Moses downloaded his tablet from a cloud.
Let's do the math, billions of galaxies and trillions and trillions of planets and people believe that their God created all this just for them, not to mention Heaven and Hell🫢 and by the way great show Seth.
I think their are others and way smarter
Since they didn't want to kill Gallileo they must have respected him.
I wonder if god has to change his morality and his holy messages about sex for each species. For example a species that doesn’t pair bond. Instead the female goes into heat and mates with multiple males. That species Bible might be telling the female to mate as many times as possible. That species Jesus would have said “Have lots of sex when you’re in heat. As many males as possible”
Babble fish were so perfectly synchronized with other beings that they could not have evolved. Thus proving God. God disappearing in a poof of logic
How about a Gumby Jesus? What next?
Aliens , religion are connected - but why ????
Because imagination & the need for cognitive closure.
The Ancient Egyptian Pyramids were originally built as altars, to worship the Elohim Extraterrestrials👽
Bible: Isaiah 19:19 In that day shall there be an altar (pyramid) to the Elohim👽 in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar (obelisk) at the border (of the pyramid) thereof to the Elohim👽.
That's why the pyramids align with the 3 stars of Orion ⭐⭐⭐.
"God" is pagan name, it's from the name Gad, Gad in the bible was a Babylonian God of fortune. Google it! The real Creator YHWH l believe may have been an Extraterrestrial that came to earth thousands of years ago, and according to the Bible's book of Revelation will be back again one day after the evil one known as The Antichrist is revealed.
Isaiah 65:11 But ye are they that forsake me the Elohim YHWH, that forget my holy mountain, and prepare a table offering for Gad, the god of fortune.
I'm so happy that some Christians have finally added the Hebrew word for "god" and "gods" which is "Elohim" to their Bibles.
Berashit (aka Genesis) 1:1 In the beginning ( the) Elohim created the heaven and the earth.
Bereshit (aka Genesis) 1:26 Then Elohim said, "Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness👽.
Genesis 3:8
Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the Elohim YHWH as he was 🚶♂️WALKING🚶♂️ in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the Elohim YHWH among the trees of the garden.
Yechezkel (aka
Ezekiel ) 1:5 ...within it 🛸 was the form of four living creatures. And this was their appearance: They had the appearance of man ( human) 👽
Yahsuah aka Jesus may have been an Elohim Extraterrestrial, Son of the ET Elohim YHWH 👽
John 10:36 Jesus said "I am the Son of (the) Elohim YHWH" 👽🛸
John 8:14 Jesus " l am not from this world " 🌍✨
John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto Jesus, "You are My Lord, and my Elohim"👽.
John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended🛸 to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend🛸 unto my Father, and your Father; and to my Elohim, and your Elohim👽.
Acts 1:9-10 Now when Jesus had spoken these things, while they watched, He was taken up🛸, and a cloud received Him out of their sight. They looked steadfastly toward heaven as He went up🛸
In our Future...
Revelation 21:2 l saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem ( Spaceship🛸), coming down out of heaven from YHWH Elohim 🛸👽
Revelation 21:3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! Elohim YHWH dwelling place🛸 is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and Elohim YHWH himself will be with them and be their Elohim.
The truth is finally being revealed! And the truth shall set you free! 🛸👽😁👍
If there is life out there …
That makes us aliens … 😃