Three months ago, I would’ve bashed anybody who dare speak ill of this game. But after playing it all the way through and revisiting it, I can conclude that this game is not perfect in any way, shape or form. It’s an amazing game, but even Spider-Man 1 and Miles Morales was more replayable than this. It’s probably due to the fact that the game is just completely done now. And now we’re just eagerly waiting for more content that should’ve already been introduced. Anyway, I still love the game, but I can definitely see where the complaints are coming from. I respect your opinion.
I enjoyed the game a lot even on release, but I was very disappointed with the story’s lack of well… stakes. There just isn’t much tension or consequences for any of the bad things that happen, and all of the characters are shockingly nice to each other which is unnatural as hell.
I was also very disappointed when I found out Shocker is never going to appear again because ever since the Spider-Man animated show from the 90s I've been a huge fan of Shocker. I want to see some justice given to his name but I was throughly disappointed. Also who likes Screwball?
FACTS. I literally rewrote his role in the story on my community tab a couple months ago. He could've had such a HUUUUGE role in this story Imagined if it followed him trying to live a normal life again because its seems insomniac and spidey FORGOT that he was THREATENED to go back into villainy. It wasn't HIS choice So the game could follow him and we get to see him struggle to do this and then Kraven is hunting him. So we get to see how feeling hunted actually is Then Black Suit Spiderman saves him only to try to kill him himself. Theres a chase scene where shocker is injured and we're running from Peter or limping away. Peter temporarily cripples him and then is stopped by Black Cat, Wraith and Miles Later in the hospital Peter has a heart to heart with Shocker and even reveals his identity cause he feels bad for Herman. Herman realizing that it was the Symbiote that changed Spiderman so he gives Spidey his Shocker tech and Peter makes suit upgrades and now has a sound equivalent to Miles venom instead of the Anti Venom suit which was cheap fanservice and diminishes the ENTIRE point of the symbiote arc
That moment when you realize the best live action and video game rendition of the Symbiote to date is Spider-Man 3. The game AND movie. They actually were true to the Symbiote's origins, rather than doing this fucking stupid "EVERYTHING is Oscorp" bullshit. Peter gets the black suit pretty early on, and we get to see over most of the movie how it gradually changes Peter into a monster. If they'd made Sandman the main villain and left Venom to the next movie, memes aside, it could've been a genuinely great movie.
The whole open world and map is just so disappointing compared to the first game. Not once have I wanted to repeat the game at all unlike the first where I’ve completed it about 10 times.
The side content are improved. First game may have more content but more content doesn't mean better because quality over quantity. Marvel's Spider Man 2 may have lesser content but its improved as its less repetitive and less filler. Although they could have had more variety. The first one had more content but its mostly boring and unnecessary filler missions and repetitive.
@@Shahriyararin63 I’d disagree only side mission I can remember I enjoyed was the one with the old man and the pigeon guy the rest I nearly fell asleep for
@@q4dxpq60 Wraith and Mysterio side missions were awesome as well. Say what you will about having lesser content then the first but quality over quantity. First one is full of boring filler and feels like a chore to complete while in Marvel's Spider Man 2 is feels less of a chore
@@Shahriyararin63I waited years for the second game especially since I enjoyed the first game so much and for it to just have less of what I liked? I basically forgot all about those 2 side missions because it felt like I was just doing them for the sake of completion unlike the first game in which I actually enjoyed them even if they were repetitive
So many plot holes, inconsistencies and bugs and glitches still persist even after this supposed hyped up update was supposed to fix everything. Definitely wasn’t worth the money or the wait, but we’ll just have to make do because it’s not like we can get a Spider-Man game from anyone else at the moment.
The older games they keep away from the PS store so we have no other choice but to play theirs and younger players can't know any different if it's not there to play
Man, every time venom/eddie Brock came around in his earlier years before the character had as many iterations, things would always get dark. I mean DARK. I remember the chapter where Eddie tricked Spiderman into an incinerator and burnt him alive. 😅😂💀 this game went so tame on venom.
@@peeko_luxx2873 In Spider-Man 3 you get to see Peter lose it and literally torture and beat Sandman to death. I mean he doesn't die, but watching that scene, I would wish I did. That bit with the train especially, shit. Venom has been getting absolutely shafted in both live action and now video games.
Well edited and an underrated channel. I personally dislike the critique that web-swinging isn't physics based, and I think it's extremely overstated at this point lol. To each their own. Other than that, I think you're spot on about what went wrong with the story. I like to believe that Insomniac was rushed by Sony (or "higher ups") and that's why we got this story. I definitely agree that the lack of content is extremely disappointing. The first game had so much to do, and I'm surprised Insomniac didn't fit more in. Miles Morales suffered the EXACT same problem.
I feel like instead of doing the two characters in the same storyline, they should have done it like GTA IV where you choose between Miles and Peter and play THEIR storyline. I feel like it could have flushed things way better than it did here.
EXACTLY. Insomniac is getting waaay to big for their britches. Seriously I have ZERO faith in the next game and wouldve even care if it took 10 years to make. Talking about killing ALL a franchises momentum. Guess arkham will always be the best hero trilogy game😔
Miles missions are sooo pathetic I don't even know where to start😭 So I'll just put it like this. Name me ONE Superhero media where the TEEN hero's school is NEVER attacked!? I just want ONE Comistorian(RIP) said that they couldbe easiy added a low level villain like Gjost and implement it into an overarching plot. Personally I wouldbe gone with FROST PHAROAH Its HILARIOUS how they want Miles to be the next Spidey yet have used NONE of his ORIGINAL villains from the comics. STARLING could EASILY be his Black Cat equivalent...why tf does he have a mission with felicia!? And Felicia doesnt interact with symbiote Peter AT ALL. Seriously WHO WROTE THIS CRAP😐!? Starling couldbe easily been implemented into the game as someone taking on the hunter bases as well in order to get revenge for her Grandfather vulture and Miles who is ALSO looking for revenge has to overcome it because hes a HERO and he sees what this did to Starling FUNNY thing is...Starling is IN THE PREQUEL NOVEL for the Miles Morales game. And dont even get me started on how the Prequel Novel characters cant be used as bosses. Blood Spider couldve WASILY been a boss for Miles as well. He HATES Spiderman and wanted to replace as bim as the "real" spiderman. Imagine him seeing how Miles got accepted when he was rejected, it would further feed into his MADNESS. Let alone giving him a SYMBIOTE for a second boss fight
I completely agree with you, the gameplay could've also been way greater. Kind of like web of shadows with Peter. Changing suits at will, Miles... He is already OP as he is, so he remains the same...
that's the problem it copied to much from treyarch's web of shadows game including it's plot element even gameplay features from raimi spider-man game trilogy like the charge jump, web slingshot and etc it nothing new, it has been done before 2 decades ago. it's selling feature for this game was the web slingshot again it was done before then with the web wingsuit the game literally turns into superman 64 by flying through rings. lmfao
@@Oldschool1943 that's not stealing. That's paying homage and it's great. Plus fans wanted it so the team listens to the fans. It all fits within the game
THANK YOU!!!!! This game was SUCH a downgrade that didn’t move ANYTHING forward! It feels like filler but also ruins the momentum! This his The Last Jedi is Spider-Man Games.
@@Mrsplifferdoodle the one thing I can say it improved on is traversal in that things are faster. But story, combat, character respect, character accuracy and in some spots even graphics were a downgrade. Definitely needed more time to cook. But ultimately the story was HORRIBLE. And treated Spider-Man like absolute GARBAGE in favor of Miles Morales. And that was NOT Venom at all. Changed his entire motivation and removed all of his personality traits that made the character so great.
@@jbstudios3000yeah no buddy, you're wrong on pretty much all of those, especially the "treating Pete like garbage in favor of miles" is incredibly stupiid when the mf didn't have nearly as much involvement in the story as Pete did. But comparing this to that actual pos of a movie, is immediately where I stop taking you and your joke of a comment seriously.
@@Mrsplifferdoodle Miles was in it less than Spider-Man cuz it was SPIDER-MAN’S game. Not Miles. But even still, Miles was given bad ass moments, Ws and ultimately replaces Spider-Man by the end. Spider-Man on the other hand (the main character) Doesn’t have a single solo W then gets replaced. The Spider-Man I grew up with was WAY tougher than this cuck. And what movie are you talking about?
Things that should have been in this game: random supervillain boss fight encounters in the city with a massive roster; missions where you as Peter and Miles try AND FAIL to protect supervillains from Kraven which would lead to Peter feeling like he was failing as Spider-man which would boost the symbiote spider-man arc; the Venom fight should have toured the city and should have had chases and massive destruction on a scale bigger than sandman's; wall and ceiling combat; more unique gadgets for Peter and Miles; unique suit powers like the first game; longer story that fleshes out the characters and their relationships better; more interactions between just about everyone; all of the QoL stuff that the first game had; Peter talking about trying to remove anti-venom to give to Harry to heal him and that being the reason Peter puts the superhero stuff to rest for a bit.
This game is just a ubisoft open world but with a high budget the combat has almost NO sauce , the swinging is great tho, the story is absolutely abysmal and borderline boring as fuck and the characters are just pg-13 disney characters too afraid of their sony overlords to have anything of substance to say
This exactly my problem with the game the combat has basically no improvements from the first game and I saw so many reviewers say “oh them taking out most the gadgets improved the gameplay a lot” which I think is ridiculous because first off removing a feature that was originally optional will never be an improvement since you don’t have to use it to begin with and in the first game I never used gadgets to begin with so I don’t see the improvements of something I never used. They could’ve made the combat more smoother, way more combat animations, add some really fun combat interactive but no it just felt like a water down version of the Arkham series which came out over 10 years ago. The story was so boring and annoying that it made it way too hard to finish the game. I think a lot of game developers tend to forget how to write a fun story but have dramatic elements, having just a corny dramatic story is just hard to engage with, like how can you make the most interesting characters in spider-man and make them so boring? The web swinging is really the best part of the game and is where you actually see improvements.
I think the reason the game feels so cluttered was because originally they wanted to show peter trying to help harry, mentor miles, love MJ, pay morgage, and hunt kraven at the same time. Here he fails to balance his life trying to do everything himself like stated in the beginning. But I think somehow the story splintered because messy stories are hard to juggle. So i guess they tried to make it work the best they can.
In my opinion the game is great but there are funny bugs where i flew to space bc miles was glitch wall running on air, overall 8/10 but i respect ur opinion.
Find it funny you mention miles should have gotten the symbiote because the a lot of the original drafts and concept art he was supposed to have it but it was cut because of the development struggles
I really enjoyed Spiderman Web of Shadows. A really cool and original use of the symbiote. Having essentially a zombie Apocalypse, but with everyone being infected with the symbiote. It was so fun and epic.
12:55 i agree with many things even though i was very hyped for the game and pre ordered it But you can turn off the swinging assist making you actively counteract the physics
I’ll take to my grave that everyone who knows Spider Man should be able to play the PS games, but I totally agree with your points. The parts it does get right, like the combat and character portrayals, are spectacular but more room for the Symbiote story to expand by removing the Miles fluff would have definitely helped
11:23 I've been SAYING this. This game has ZERO connective tissue tk the first game. My GOD they mention doc ock ONCE and its HARRY who brings it up It does a POOR job at showing us that Peter is DEPRESSED. The lack of proper writing in this game really pisses me off I might playthrough this all of once and refund it cause how it treats Peter and the rest of the cast is as ANNOYING as it is DISAPPOINTING😐😔
@@Mrsplifferdoodle oh so its twice...yippy. And my main point was that Peter doesn't seem to give af about literally EVERYthing that happened in the first game until they force miles into his mind and dump all that info on us Peter literally acts like his mentor didnt just kills 100s of people with a pandemic 2 years ago. Contrast that wity the Arkham games that makes SURE that the MAIN premise of the previous games, ties into the sequel and DIRECTLY AFFECTS THE STORY...not just some throwaway POST credit scene They call it a POST credit scene...cause it has NO impact on the STORY BEFOREhand🤦♂️
I'll be honest as a huge Spidey fan this game just left me super unexcited for the next game tbh. Something about this one just made the excitement drop to zero, i havent even replayed it.
I geniunely believe the Symbiote arc can't be told in a videogame or movie; the shift in Peter's personality is too subtle and slow to properly showcase in such a short amount of time, which is why Spider-Man 3 and this game felt so rushed. As always, Spectacular was the best adaptation of the storyline.
Side missions were awful too, fighting sand minions, fighting waves in Mysterio's games. Come on they could've done way better, it truly felt rushed tbh.😅
I liked this game imma be honest, but it was inferior to the first one. They handled they whole being spider-man has negative consequences well and i enjoyed the hell out of the gameplay which was an upgrade to the first one. But the story was really messy. Kraven was dissapointing. The whole point of Kraven is being this rutheless hunter stalking you, feeling his breath at the back of your neck at all times. All we got was 2 boss fights if i remember correctly. Instead we keep fighting his goons which do most if not all the hunting work for him, which imo is really out of character. I liked the concept of Harry being Venom. We had it coming tho from the post credits scene. But the whole symbiote alien invasion apocalypse thing didnt do it for me. I really disliked that they took it that way. Also i wanted more developement for Bully Lowenthal. His growth into a corrupted piece of shit by the symbiote was really incosisent. But i liked the popping pills scene, neglecting his dying friend over keeping the suit for himself, but again, incosistent and could've be done better. The Miles colgate suit at the end was really bad. The Miles Morales original concept happened in the Miles Morales game where Miles grows past being Spider-Man's Robin, making his own suit and being his own hero. Growing into a man. A Spider-Man. What disturbed me most was when i found out that the suit was placed just for an ADIDAS sponsorship. Even if they had to put it in, they should've approached it differently. Also they were bugs and glitches made the experience worse even after the updates. The game felt really short, i finished it quite fast and went platinum too. I've played the first game so many times i can't get enough and i am never bored of it. That's not the case here. While a good game gameplay wise, it doesn't have much more to offer. Also the crime fighting theme is so reused, it feels lazy and super repetitive. Unlike the first one, here i didnt even bother with crimefighting. It felt more like a chore to me. But the sides missions where really good and done exceptionally well. Oh and the black cat mission was so meh. Besides all that i believe Insomniac had a vision and good intentions for this game. They put their hearts in this and you can see their love for spider-man and his mythos. Besides it's problems it somehow still works and makes it a solid game. Can't wait for the 3rd one tho.
"Visually interesting than mechanically deep" you just succinctly said what ive been trying to express since insomniac started their franchise. To me the games were lazily made and had no depth in swinging or gameplay. The upgrade tree was 90% fluff. In 2024 and i cant do what older games did when it comes to web swinging or combat?!
Hate is bad indeed I do hoped JJJ learns that and he lets it go then reformed to be a better man and start trusting the spider men more as an ally like in the current comics recently he must be better than he used to be like what mysterio and Tombstone did to reform themselves from who they used to be I hoped that happens in the third game than just him being a 2 dimensional ass like in every game he is in danika is better than him though but alas give jjj a character development for once in a lifetime just like the 90s cartoon did at least it give his character development justice like what the comics did at the time.
Eh that’s your thoughts I thought it was fun and nice especially cause it had symbiote spiderman my main the only thing that pisses me off is that when you finish the game the white symbiote will be all you get all the power it will only be the new anti symbiote not black rage symbiote it’s so dumb but other than that I’m not judging you or anything that’s just your thoughts and I have my thoughts you do have a few points but that doesn’t make me dislike it
some defender really just compared this game to mario galaxy and mario 64. LMFAO! u can't make this shit up. 😂😂while being in denial about the bike riding selections, playing as miles deaf girlfriend that vandalized buildings by spray painting graffiti, (both are on some life is strange type of shit), killing all of spider-man's rouges gallery off screen, force karen jane stealth missions, the game is buggy af and the story is a treyarch's web of shadows knockoff. they're still stealing gameplay features and plot elements from beenox and treyarch spider-man games, no innovation whatsoever.
The only part where second entry exeeds the original is combat/traversal. That's it. In every other regard this game is a disappointment. Especially story-wise
Great video dude and i totally agree with you. This game was such a disappointment, they should’ve delay the game for an another year cause it felt so rushed and too safe. And with the recent Insomniac leaks, it sounded like there was so much cool stuffs they cut out from the game like more boss fights, more Venom gameplay and buildings getting damage while in combat.
FINALLY someone who talks about how BAD as Kravens character was. He has as much depth as a SLASHER MOVIE villain😑 OH MY GOD the POTENTIAL here was INSANE. They couldve given him a heart to heart with Vulture a man ALSO dying from a sickness he cant stop. Vulture breaks down after fighting coming to terns with his death and lamenting how Doc Ock and Spidey left him to die Kraven kills him and you can see the sorrow on his face cause he's envious of being able to provide vulture with something he may never get. Implement his FAMILY into the game and let us see through them how this great man is now spiraling Kraven couldve become Venom and it couldve been great cause Peter doesnt kill him he becoms infuriated and the symbiote preys on this insecurity. Short timeskip and Peter learns that all his friends have been kidnapped after Krenom suprise attacks him and he uses his Shocker Gear to fight him off. Krenom tells him to come for his family and Peter teams up with Mr Negative to take him down. Hell you can even still give Peter Anti Venom in this route while still keeping the values intact that he is SUPPOSED to learn after the symbiote arc which is that he does NOT need a symbiote
Something tells me venom was not a part of the original script for Spiderman 2. I believe the fan backlash for wanting the black suit in the first installment made investors force a creative pivot late into development.... I believe the only main villain was supposed to be kraven.. And peter was supposed to be battling his emotions A LOT more post aunt Mae's death on screen. Kraven was supposed to be the one really pushing peter to the edge emotionally. Giving us a really serious spider man minus the symbiote. A serious version of Pete seen in the comics. But the black suit demands from the fan meant even more revenue for investors. So they forced the devs to shoehorn venom into what could've been a really great story for the sequel....
Uh no, it's the other way around completely. Insomniac themselves have said that venom was always going to be here buy that kraven was a last minute addition that they originally had no intentions of including him at all.
Eh the game was amazing and I'm still playing after all these months, definitely my favorite Spider-Man game of all time 100% , i really don't understand the hate.
Kraven just wanted a good last hunt. Logic had nothing to do with it. Plus, fighting against Venom demonstrated he was in control of his fate. As he was staring down at Venom from the rooftop building, he knew he was staring at death itself, but he wanted death itself to earn him. Essentially, a skilled hunter looking for one last good hunt. Insomniac's Kraven reminds me of Kratos in God of War 3. Causing so much destruction in New York. He's the reason why Venom started to evolve.
Ok, so the only thing you're doing in this video is spoiling the entire plot. I've been playing the game, and found it to be pretty crappy. I was hoping to hear some opinions on the actual gameplay and design. Not some crappy story synopsis.
@nopeyepp I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic, but if you're being real, I appreciate it. I've been playing the game, and I'm about 1/3 through the story. I'm going to finish it, but I found myself disappointed by the gameplay. The combat feels worse than ever. The skill tree is lame. The gadgets are boring. I went on TH-cam to see if other people felt the same way. One big gripe I had last night was how weak Spider-Man feels. Why do I have to hit a normal enemy 25 times to knock them out? It just makes the combat feel like a boring slog. It's cool if you want to make a video about the story synopsis, but it would be helpful if you listed that in the title of your video. That's honestly where my gripe came from. Thanks for giving me a reply, bro. Keep up the good work.
Insomniac's Spider-Man games are average at best. They are not even close to the standard of the Arkham games. Insomniac is simply not fit to he making superhero games.
@@Mrsplifferdoodlebut it's a fact, insominiac's only really amazing game was the first game, Miles' game was also cool and 2 was just ok, nothing special, the Arkham franchise revolutionized the industry standard and they all have a perfect balance between graphics, stories, innovations and gameplay, so yes the Arkham franchise is far superior, I like Spider-Man more as a character but saying that Insominiac's games are better is slutty
Absolutely invalid points: - Kraven's comic accurate in here. This is by far the best Kraven we got in any media as Kraven isn't hunting for the sake of hunting, he has cancer and wants to find a worthy opponent to die from a warrior death. Insomniac done justice here. - Venom: Venom doesn't want to take over the world for no reason, Harry wants to help people with the same suffering as him, but the symbiote gives him the twisted version of what he wants. Venom was great but needed more screentime. He is a sympathetic character - Peter having the symbiote had more then enough. He can't keep it longer as Harry needs it more then him. The longer he keeps it then Harry woukd die soon. You saw Harry using a walking cane and that shows he is running out of time. Peter is angry because he was overprotective as he doesn't want to lose anyone he cares about anymore. Especially after he lost May. - Peter wasn't nerfed at all as both Peter and Miles got equal amount of defeats. Peter beated more baddies then Miles ever did. Peter beated Lizard, Venom, Kraven, Wraith and Scream. Miles only beated Mr Negative and Mysterio. - Miles was given a good character arc as well. - The side content are improved. First game may have more content but more content doesn't mean better because quality over quantity. Marvel's Spider Man 2 may have lesser content but its improved as its less repetitive and less filler. Although they could have had more variety. The first one had more content but its mostly boring and unnecessary filler missions and repetitive. Overall, Marvel's Spider Man 2 is objectively a sequel better than the original. Anyone agrees with me 👇
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, but it's not very convincing when you say that my points are invalid while dismissing context and making broad statements. It's fair that you like the game, and I'm glad that you do, but making a bad faith argument doesn't help anyone.
@@Shahriyararin63 there's no "invaid" when it comes to facts. who tf says "invaid" u can't even spell that right it's *invalid and pointing out the game flaws isn't invalid and I don't think u know what invalid means.
@@Oldschool1943 I don't think you have seen the video or read my comment properly. He is just one of those people that doesn't understand the context. I did spelled Invalid properly
-Venom is not a sympathetic character. You said it yourself that Harry's vision is twisted by the symbiote into what it wants, not what Harry wants. We also see this manipulation demonstrated when Peter is told by Venom to kill Kraven, as well as what happens to MJ with the Scream transformation. None of that would tell the player that Venom is a sympathetic character but would instead indicate the exact opposite: that it uses a host to achieve its own twisted vision, which causes a substantial amount of destruction along the way. -The amount of time Harry has without the symbiote is entirely dependent on the structure of the story. They could have explored more into Peter's addiction with the symbiote, but they chose to cut it short. At best, it feels rushed and we only get a handful of moments that really stand out as a result (those being when Peter confronts MJ and Harry, and Peter's comments during the lizard fight). -Peter did not beat Venom or Scream. He defeated the Lizard and Kraven while having the symbiote, and he also was originally killed by Kraven without even getting a shot on him. Peter was also almost killed by Sandman and Venom and had to be subsequently saved by Miles both times. Despite Anti-Venom Peter being defeated during the fight with Venom, Miles is able to fight Venom to a standstill. Miles also fights Venom Peter to a standstill. -Could you please expand on why you believe Miles' arc was good? I'm not saying you're right or wrong necessarily, I just wanna know your thoughts.
The overall game is really good but like many games nowadays the story has many flaws because it tries to do so many things (which eventually leads to a lack of depth in many areas) and I actually did think exactly what you thought about the ideas that they should have “swapped plots” with the two characters, sort of like they were trying to checkmark everything they wanted to do in a single game. Honestly I think they just wanted to get the story bits done and out of the way to get into a broader world with many super heroes 🦸♀️ unfortunately
To skip the recap: 5:44
Three months ago, I would’ve bashed anybody who dare speak ill of this game. But after playing it all the way through and revisiting it, I can conclude that this game is not perfect in any way, shape or form. It’s an amazing game, but even Spider-Man 1 and Miles Morales was more replayable than this. It’s probably due to the fact that the game is just completely done now. And now we’re just eagerly waiting for more content that should’ve already been introduced. Anyway, I still love the game, but I can definitely see where the complaints are coming from. I respect your opinion.
Yeah I tried finishing sm2 in new game plus but I get to the symbiote and stop I could easily replay sm1 and miles
I enjoyed the game a lot even on release, but I was very disappointed with the story’s lack of well… stakes. There just isn’t much tension or consequences for any of the bad things that happen, and all of the characters are shockingly nice to each other which is unnatural as hell.
You felt uncomfortable when 90's Black Cat showed up jacked as hell? Are you a muscle mommy fan as well?
Wow, strong words from an pfp otaku weirdo
@@Sagegabs Oh chill out man. This TH-camr hearted and liked my comment. Clearly he knows I’m just meming a bit. We can be “weirdos” together.
Bros literally me
@@imoutocompalexmore like webbed weirdo’s
Shit if that muscle mommy looks like wwe rhea then yea I can say I do lol
I was also very disappointed when I found out Shocker is never going to appear again because ever since the Spider-Man animated show from the 90s I've been a huge fan of Shocker. I want to see some justice given to his name but I was throughly disappointed. Also who likes Screwball?
You should play spiderman 2 on ps2 it has plenty of shocker
FACTS. I literally rewrote his role in the story on my community tab a couple months ago. He could've had such a HUUUUGE role in this story
Imagined if it followed him trying to live a normal life again because its seems insomniac and spidey FORGOT that he was THREATENED to go back into villainy. It wasn't HIS choice
So the game could follow him and we get to see him struggle to do this and then Kraven is hunting him. So we get to see how feeling hunted actually is
Then Black Suit Spiderman saves him only to try to kill him himself. Theres a chase scene where shocker is injured and we're running from Peter or limping away. Peter temporarily cripples him and then is stopped by Black Cat, Wraith and Miles
Later in the hospital Peter has a heart to heart with Shocker and even reveals his identity cause he feels bad for Herman. Herman realizing that it was the Symbiote that changed Spiderman so he gives Spidey his Shocker tech and Peter makes suit upgrades and now has a sound equivalent to Miles venom instead of the Anti Venom suit which was cheap fanservice and diminishes the ENTIRE point of the symbiote arc
@@no.1spidey-fan182I love finding your comments somewhere in any video on Spider-Man.
@@megamillion5852 appreciate it🙏💯 and I love leaving them😂
The first act was really slow, the second act was genuinely great and the third act overstayed its welcome. Once I beat the game I uninstalled it
The symbiote part of the story was so rushed. Instead of a good build up, Spiderman just becomes a complete POS so fast when he gets the black suit.
That moment when you realize the best live action and video game rendition of the Symbiote to date is Spider-Man 3. The game AND movie.
They actually were true to the Symbiote's origins, rather than doing this fucking stupid "EVERYTHING is Oscorp" bullshit. Peter gets the black suit pretty early on, and we get to see over most of the movie how it gradually changes Peter into a monster. If they'd made Sandman the main villain and left Venom to the next movie, memes aside, it could've been a genuinely great movie.
The whole open world and map is just so disappointing compared to the first game. Not once have I wanted to repeat the game at all unlike the first where I’ve completed it about 10 times.
The side content are improved. First game may have more content but more content doesn't mean better because quality over quantity. Marvel's Spider Man 2 may have lesser content but its improved as its less repetitive and less filler. Although they could have had more variety. The first one had more content but its mostly boring and unnecessary filler missions and repetitive.
@@Shahriyararin63 I’d disagree only side mission I can remember I enjoyed was the one with the old man and the pigeon guy the rest I nearly fell asleep for
@@q4dxpq60 Wraith and Mysterio side missions were awesome as well. Say what you will about having lesser content then the first but quality over quantity. First one is full of boring filler and feels like a chore to complete while in Marvel's Spider Man 2 is feels less of a chore
@@Shahriyararin63I waited years for the second game especially since I enjoyed the first game so much and for it to just have less of what I liked? I basically forgot all about those 2 side missions because it felt like I was just doing them for the sake of completion unlike the first game in which I actually enjoyed them even if they were repetitive
@@Shahriyararin63might be the most disappointed I’ve ever felt about any sequel for a game ever.
So many plot holes, inconsistencies and bugs and glitches still persist even after this supposed hyped up update was supposed to fix everything. Definitely wasn’t worth the money or the wait, but we’ll just have to make do because it’s not like we can get a Spider-Man game from anyone else at the moment.
The older games they keep away from the PS store so we have no other choice but to play theirs and younger players can't know any different if it's not there to play
Man, every time venom/eddie Brock came around in his earlier years before the character had as many iterations, things would always get dark. I mean DARK. I remember the chapter where Eddie tricked Spiderman into an incinerator and burnt him alive. 😅😂💀 this game went so tame on venom.
God people like you really piss me off with the dumb things you say.
@@peeko_luxx2873 In Spider-Man 3 you get to see Peter lose it and literally torture and beat Sandman to death. I mean he doesn't die, but watching that scene, I would wish I did. That bit with the train especially, shit.
Venom has been getting absolutely shafted in both live action and now video games.
Well edited and an underrated channel.
I personally dislike the critique that web-swinging isn't physics based, and I think it's extremely overstated at this point lol. To each their own.
Other than that, I think you're spot on about what went wrong with the story. I like to believe that Insomniac was rushed by Sony (or "higher ups") and that's why we got this story.
I definitely agree that the lack of content is extremely disappointing. The first game had so much to do, and I'm surprised Insomniac didn't fit more in. Miles Morales suffered the EXACT same problem.
Story is great it's only the third act was rushed (as per Bryan Intihar)
@@Shahriyararin63 The prologue in all the Insomniac games are amazing. Like the start of Spider-Man 2 had me extremely hyped.
@@nudul842 same 😉
And now they want to add silk they couldn’t even do two Spider-Man properly why should people keep faith in Insomiac
I feel like instead of doing the two characters in the same storyline, they should have done it like GTA IV where you choose between Miles and Peter and play THEIR storyline. I feel like it could have flushed things way better than it did here.
@@PillsburyDoughboi69 yeah it was all very rushed and to me silk just seems like fan service there’s no reason to add her
Norman's build up was boring, and his motivation is horrible too, my expectations aren't high for it 😔
@@dtamst they should’ve killed Harry no reason for him to live
EXACTLY. Insomniac is getting waaay to big for their britches. Seriously I have ZERO faith in the next game and wouldve even care if it took 10 years to make. Talking about killing ALL a franchises momentum. Guess arkham will always be the best hero trilogy game😔
Miles missions are sooo pathetic I don't even know where to start😭
So I'll just put it like this. Name me ONE Superhero media where the TEEN hero's school is NEVER attacked!? I just want ONE
Comistorian(RIP) said that they couldbe easiy added a low level villain like Gjost and implement it into an overarching plot. Personally I wouldbe gone with FROST PHAROAH
Its HILARIOUS how they want Miles to be the next Spidey yet have used NONE of his ORIGINAL villains from the comics. STARLING could EASILY be his Black Cat equivalent...why tf does he have a mission with felicia!? And Felicia doesnt interact with symbiote Peter AT ALL. Seriously WHO WROTE THIS CRAP😐!?
Starling couldbe easily been implemented into the game as someone taking on the hunter bases as well in order to get revenge for her Grandfather vulture and Miles who is ALSO looking for revenge has to overcome it because hes a HERO and he sees what this did to Starling
FUNNY thing is...Starling is IN THE PREQUEL NOVEL for the Miles Morales game. And dont even get me started on how the Prequel Novel characters cant be used as bosses. Blood Spider couldve WASILY been a boss for Miles as well. He HATES Spiderman and wanted to replace as bim as the "real" spiderman. Imagine him seeing how Miles got accepted when he was rejected, it would further feed into his MADNESS. Let alone giving him a SYMBIOTE for a second boss fight
The Teen Titans, technically.
I mean they don't go to any school, so... That's probably why.
Well, Ironically THEY attack a school, actually.
@@haku8135 lmao😂
BEST REVIEW OF THE GAME. The story, characters, world building, execution, story telling and treatment of Peter (so basically everything) is terrible.
I thought I was the only one mad about miles barely being in the game 🤧
I completely agree with you, the gameplay could've also been way greater. Kind of like web of shadows with Peter. Changing suits at will, Miles... He is already OP as he is, so he remains the same...
Gameplay is great. And what you mean by changing suits at will? You can already change suits by going to the menu
that's the problem it copied to much from treyarch's web of shadows game including it's plot element even gameplay features from raimi spider-man game trilogy like the charge jump, web slingshot and etc it nothing new, it has been done before 2 decades ago. it's selling feature for this game was the web slingshot again it was done before then with the web wingsuit the game literally turns into superman 64 by flying through rings. lmfao
@@Oldschool1943 not really. Fans have wanted those things to be included so the team listened to them. It pays good homage to those stuff
@@Shahriyararin63 stealing features and stories isn't paying homage.
u wouldn't be using this awful take, if it was the other way around.
@@Oldschool1943 that's not stealing. That's paying homage and it's great. Plus fans wanted it so the team listens to the fans. It all fits within the game
THANK YOU!!!!! This game was SUCH a downgrade that didn’t move ANYTHING forward! It feels like filler but also ruins the momentum! This his The Last Jedi is Spider-Man Games.
No tf it isn't
@@Mrsplifferdoodle the one thing I can say it improved on is traversal in that things are faster. But story, combat, character respect, character accuracy and in some spots even graphics were a downgrade. Definitely needed more time to cook.
But ultimately the story was HORRIBLE. And treated Spider-Man like absolute GARBAGE in favor of Miles Morales.
And that was NOT Venom at all. Changed his entire motivation and removed all of his personality traits that made the character so great.
@@jbstudios3000yeah no buddy, you're wrong on pretty much all of those, especially the "treating Pete like garbage in favor of miles" is incredibly stupiid when the mf didn't have nearly as much involvement in the story as Pete did. But comparing this to that actual pos of a movie, is immediately where I stop taking you and your joke of a comment seriously.
@@Mrsplifferdoodle Miles was in it less than Spider-Man cuz it was SPIDER-MAN’S game. Not Miles. But even still, Miles was given bad ass moments, Ws and ultimately replaces Spider-Man by the end.
Spider-Man on the other hand (the main character)
Doesn’t have a single solo W then gets replaced.
The Spider-Man I grew up with was WAY tougher than this cuck.
And what movie are you talking about?
Things that should have been in this game: random supervillain boss fight encounters in the city with a massive roster; missions where you as Peter and Miles try AND FAIL to protect supervillains from Kraven which would lead to Peter feeling like he was failing as Spider-man which would boost the symbiote spider-man arc; the Venom fight should have toured the city and should have had chases and massive destruction on a scale bigger than sandman's; wall and ceiling combat; more unique gadgets for Peter and Miles; unique suit powers like the first game; longer story that fleshes out the characters and their relationships better; more interactions between just about everyone; all of the QoL stuff that the first game had; Peter talking about trying to remove anti-venom to give to Harry to heal him and that being the reason Peter puts the superhero stuff to rest for a bit.
This game coming out the same year as Across the Spider-Verse did it no favours as far as its treatment of Miles lol
Great review. The portrayal of Krvaen and Venom were awful. It's crazy hearing people say this game has the best version of these characters.
This game is just a ubisoft open world but with a high budget the combat has almost NO sauce , the swinging is great tho, the story is absolutely abysmal and borderline boring as fuck and the characters are just pg-13 disney characters too afraid of their sony overlords to have anything of substance to say
Trash take but ok
Hot take but ok
Ambivalent take but ok
This exactly my problem with the game the combat has basically no improvements from the first game and I saw so many reviewers say “oh them taking out most the gadgets improved the gameplay a lot” which I think is ridiculous because first off removing a feature that was originally optional will never be an improvement since you don’t have to use it to begin with and in the first game I never used gadgets to begin with so I don’t see the improvements of something I never used. They could’ve made the combat more smoother, way more combat animations, add some really fun combat interactive but no it just felt like a water down version of the Arkham series which came out over 10 years ago. The story was so boring and annoying that it made it way too hard to finish the game. I think a lot of game developers tend to forget how to write a fun story but have dramatic elements, having just a corny dramatic story is just hard to engage with, like how can you make the most interesting characters in spider-man and make them so boring? The web swinging is really the best part of the game and is where you actually see improvements.
This is an absolutely doģshit take but okay.
I think the reason the game feels so cluttered was because originally they wanted to show peter trying to help harry, mentor miles, love MJ, pay morgage, and hunt kraven at the same time. Here he fails to balance his life trying to do everything himself like stated in the beginning. But I think somehow the story splintered because messy stories are hard to juggle. So i guess they tried to make it work the best they can.
In my opinion the game is great but there are funny bugs where i flew to space bc miles was glitch wall running on air, overall 8/10 but i respect ur opinion.
Find it funny you mention miles should have gotten the symbiote because the a lot of the original drafts and concept art he was supposed to have it but it was cut because of the development struggles
I really enjoyed Spiderman Web of Shadows. A really cool and original use of the symbiote. Having essentially a zombie Apocalypse, but with everyone being infected with the symbiote. It was so fun and epic.
12:55 i agree with many things even though i was very hyped for the game and pre ordered it
But you can turn off the swinging assist making you actively counteract the physics
I’ll take to my grave that everyone who knows Spider Man should be able to play the PS games, but I totally agree with your points.
The parts it does get right, like the combat and character portrayals, are spectacular but more room for the Symbiote story to expand by removing the Miles fluff would have definitely helped
Wow, I actually miss delivering pizzas now.
Spider-Man 2 is The Last Jedi/Halo 5: Guardians of the franchise.
😂 okay bubby.
11:23 I've been SAYING this. This game has ZERO connective tissue tk the first game. My GOD they mention doc ock ONCE and its HARRY who brings it up
It does a POOR job at showing us that Peter is DEPRESSED. The lack of proper writing in this game really pisses me off
I might playthrough this all of once and refund it cause how it treats Peter and the rest of the cast is as ANNOYING as it is DISAPPOINTING😐😔
So we're just ignoring the whole ass end credit scene where he shows up.
@@Mrsplifferdoodle oh so its twice...yippy. And my main point was that Peter doesn't seem to give af about literally EVERYthing that happened in the first game until they force miles into his mind and dump all that info on us
Peter literally acts like his mentor didnt just kills 100s of people with a pandemic 2 years ago. Contrast that wity the Arkham games that makes SURE that the MAIN premise of the previous games, ties into the sequel and DIRECTLY AFFECTS THE STORY...not just some throwaway POST credit scene
They call it a POST credit scene...cause it has NO impact on the STORY BEFOREhand🤦♂️
I'll be honest as a huge Spidey fan this game just left me super unexcited for the next game tbh. Something about this one just made the excitement drop to zero, i havent even replayed it.
I geniunely believe the Symbiote arc can't be told in a videogame or movie; the shift in Peter's personality is too subtle and slow to properly showcase in such a short amount of time, which is why Spider-Man 3 and this game felt so rushed. As always, Spectacular was the best adaptation of the storyline.
Side missions were awful too, fighting sand minions, fighting waves in Mysterio's games. Come on they could've done way better, it truly felt rushed tbh.😅
I liked this game imma be honest, but it was inferior to the first one. They handled they whole being spider-man has negative consequences well and i enjoyed the hell out of the gameplay which was an upgrade to the first one. But the story was really messy. Kraven was dissapointing. The whole point of Kraven is being this rutheless hunter stalking you, feeling his breath at the back of your neck at all times. All we got was 2 boss fights if i remember correctly. Instead we keep fighting his goons which do most if not all the hunting work for him, which imo is really out of character. I liked the concept of Harry being Venom. We had it coming tho from the post credits scene. But the whole symbiote alien invasion apocalypse thing didnt do it for me. I really disliked that they took it that way. Also i wanted more developement for Bully Lowenthal. His growth into a corrupted piece of shit by the symbiote was really incosisent. But i liked the popping pills scene, neglecting his dying friend over keeping the suit for himself, but again, incosistent and could've be done better. The Miles colgate suit at the end was really bad. The Miles Morales original concept happened in the Miles Morales game where Miles grows past being Spider-Man's Robin, making his own suit and being his own hero. Growing into a man. A Spider-Man. What disturbed me most was when i found out that the suit was placed just for an ADIDAS sponsorship. Even if they had to put it in, they should've approached it differently. Also they were bugs and glitches made the experience worse even after the updates. The game felt really short, i finished it quite fast and went platinum too. I've played the first game so many times i can't get enough and i am never bored of it. That's not the case here. While a good game gameplay wise, it doesn't have much more to offer. Also the crime fighting theme is so reused, it feels lazy and super repetitive. Unlike the first one, here i didnt even bother with crimefighting. It felt more like a chore to me. But the sides missions where really good and done exceptionally well. Oh and the black cat mission was so meh. Besides all that i believe Insomniac had a vision and good intentions for this game. They put their hearts in this and you can see their love for spider-man and his mythos. Besides it's problems it somehow still works and makes it a solid game. Can't wait for the 3rd one tho.
"Visually interesting than mechanically deep" you just succinctly said what ive been trying to express since insomniac started their franchise. To me the games were lazily made and had no depth in swinging or gameplay. The upgrade tree was 90% fluff. In 2024 and i cant do what older games did when it comes to web swinging or combat?!
Wow, you're not very intelligent.
Hate is bad indeed I do hoped JJJ learns that and he lets it go then reformed to be a better man and start trusting the spider men more as an ally like in the current comics recently he must be better than he used to be like what mysterio and Tombstone did to reform themselves from who they used to be I hoped that happens in the third game than just him being a 2 dimensional ass like in every game he is in danika is better than him though but alas give jjj a character development for once in a lifetime just like the 90s cartoon did at least it give his character development justice like what the comics did at the time.
This game desperately needs a directors cut rerelease that’s ported on PC as well
I hope they release a director’s cut so they can fix the game and make a 9 or even a 10/10
What is the name of the meme effect that plays at 5:08?
Jamal sound from TikTok 😅
Eh that’s your thoughts I thought it was fun and nice especially cause it had symbiote spiderman my main the only thing that pisses me off is that when you finish the game the white symbiote will be all you get all the power it will only be the new anti symbiote not black rage symbiote it’s so dumb but other than that I’m not judging you or anything that’s just your thoughts and I have my thoughts you do have a few points but that doesn’t make me dislike it
It's all chill, I'm glad you like it!
This aged well
Came to watch a spider-man 2 video and got jumpscared by fucking "Haha" guy, Rean Schwarzer from class 7.
i should have put sword of biting gale
Have you tried turning swing assist off? It’s on 10 by default
Yeah I played with it off
@@nopeyepp ok
You missed 0% Swing-Assist.
some defender really just compared this game to mario galaxy and mario 64. LMFAO! u can't make this shit up. 😂😂while being in denial about the bike riding selections, playing as miles deaf girlfriend that vandalized buildings by spray painting graffiti, (both are on some life is strange type of shit), killing all of spider-man's rouges gallery off screen, force karen jane stealth missions, the game is buggy af and the story is a treyarch's web of shadows knockoff. they're still stealing gameplay features and plot elements from beenox and treyarch spider-man games, no innovation whatsoever.
HighCHD would disagree with opinions.
Biggest miles glazer
how dare you neglect my beloved spider-man 2
Sony neglected it before everyone
The only part where second entry exeeds the original is combat/traversal. That's it. In every other regard this game is a disappointment. Especially story-wise
6/10 game at best
That’s generous I can’t even finish a new game plus in sm2 but in the other two games I replayed them multiple times
@@bobross2251 so many slow boring moments lol
Great video dude and i totally agree with you. This game was such a disappointment, they should’ve delay the game for an another year cause it felt so rushed and too safe. And with the recent Insomniac leaks, it sounded like there was so much cool stuffs they cut out from the game like more boss fights, more Venom gameplay and buildings getting damage while in combat.
FINALLY someone who talks about how BAD as Kravens character was. He has as much depth as a SLASHER MOVIE villain😑
OH MY GOD the POTENTIAL here was INSANE. They couldve given him a heart to heart with Vulture a man ALSO dying from a sickness he cant stop. Vulture breaks down after fighting coming to terns with his death and lamenting how Doc Ock and Spidey left him to die
Kraven kills him and you can see the sorrow on his face cause he's envious of being able to provide vulture with something he may never get.
Implement his FAMILY into the game and let us see through them how this great man is now spiraling
Kraven couldve become Venom and it couldve been great cause Peter doesnt kill him he becoms infuriated and the symbiote preys on this insecurity.
Short timeskip and Peter learns that all his friends have been kidnapped after Krenom suprise attacks him and he uses his Shocker Gear to fight him off. Krenom tells him to come for his family and Peter teams up with Mr Negative to take him down.
Hell you can even still give Peter Anti Venom in this route while still keeping the values intact that he is SUPPOSED to learn after the symbiote arc which is that he does NOT need a symbiote
Something tells me venom was not a part of the original script for Spiderman 2. I believe the fan backlash for wanting the black suit in the first installment made investors force a creative pivot late into development....
I believe the only main villain was supposed to be kraven..
And peter was supposed to be battling his emotions A LOT more post aunt Mae's death on screen. Kraven was supposed to be the one really pushing peter to the edge emotionally. Giving us a really serious spider man minus the symbiote. A serious version of Pete seen in the comics. But the black suit demands from the fan meant even more revenue for investors. So they forced the devs to shoehorn venom into what could've been a really great story for the sequel....
Uh no, it's the other way around completely. Insomniac themselves have said that venom was always going to be here buy that kraven was a last minute addition that they originally had no intentions of including him at all.
@@Mrsplifferdoodle oh so dam🤦😆 the original story and script was just going to suck regardless 😆😆😆
@@JayAynoKingdom33I guess we'll never know
@@Mrsplifferdoodle No. But we kinda do though...
That venom/symbiote storyline by itself was straight gahbage I'm sorry big dawg🤷😆
Eh the game was amazing and I'm still playing after all these months, definitely my favorite Spider-Man game of all time 100% , i really don't understand the hate.
Wasted opportunity the game.
Watch him get flamed
I did get some hate but overall not much
Kraven just wanted a good last hunt. Logic had nothing to do with it. Plus, fighting against Venom demonstrated he was in control of his fate. As he was staring down at Venom from the rooftop building, he knew he was staring at death itself, but he wanted death itself to earn him. Essentially, a skilled hunter looking for one last good hunt. Insomniac's Kraven reminds me of Kratos in God of War 3. Causing so much destruction in New York. He's the reason why Venom started to evolve.
Put simply this game sucked i didnt enjoy it and i disagree with harry being venom that is so wrong
Sorr but Gamimg wins review of this game is much better compared to this video.
Thanks for the feedback! Any area you want to see me improve on in particular?
@nopeyepp No. I rather listen to people who actually praised the game instead of talking disappointed rants.
Sorry you feel that way!
Lol people complain about dumb shit lol
Ok, so the only thing you're doing in this video is spoiling the entire plot.
I've been playing the game, and found it to be pretty crappy. I was hoping to hear some opinions on the actual gameplay and design. Not some crappy story synopsis.
Sorry my video disappointed you. I'll try to do better in the future 👍👍👍
@nopeyepp I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic, but if you're being real, I appreciate it.
I've been playing the game, and I'm about 1/3 through the story. I'm going to finish it, but I found myself disappointed by the gameplay. The combat feels worse than ever. The skill tree is lame. The gadgets are boring.
I went on TH-cam to see if other people felt the same way. One big gripe I had last night was how weak Spider-Man feels. Why do I have to hit a normal enemy 25 times to knock them out? It just makes the combat feel like a boring slog.
It's cool if you want to make a video about the story synopsis, but it would be helpful if you listed that in the title of your video. That's honestly where my gripe came from.
Thanks for giving me a reply, bro. Keep up the good work.
Insomniac's Spider-Man games are average at best. They are not even close to the standard of the Arkham games. Insomniac is simply not fit to he making superhero games.
Hard disagree and garbage comment.
@@Mrsplifferdoodlebut it's a fact, insominiac's only really amazing game was the first game, Miles' game was also cool and 2 was just ok, nothing special, the Arkham franchise revolutionized the industry standard and they all have a perfect balance between graphics, stories, innovations and gameplay, so yes the Arkham franchise is far superior, I like Spider-Man more as a character but saying that Insominiac's games are better is slutty
bull crap
Absolutely invalid points:
- Kraven's comic accurate in here. This is by far the best Kraven we got in any media as Kraven isn't hunting for the sake of hunting, he has cancer and wants to find a worthy opponent to die from a warrior death. Insomniac done justice here.
- Venom: Venom doesn't want to take over the world for no reason, Harry wants to help people with the same suffering as him, but the symbiote gives him the twisted version of what he wants. Venom was great but needed more screentime. He is a sympathetic character
- Peter having the symbiote had more then enough. He can't keep it longer as Harry needs it more then him. The longer he keeps it then Harry woukd die soon. You saw Harry using a walking cane and that shows he is running out of time. Peter is angry because he was overprotective as he doesn't want to lose anyone he cares about anymore. Especially after he lost May.
- Peter wasn't nerfed at all as both Peter and Miles got equal amount of defeats. Peter beated more baddies then Miles ever did. Peter beated Lizard, Venom, Kraven, Wraith and Scream. Miles only beated Mr Negative and Mysterio.
- Miles was given a good character arc as well.
- The side content are improved. First game may have more content but more content doesn't mean better because quality over quantity. Marvel's Spider Man 2 may have lesser content but its improved as its less repetitive and less filler. Although they could have had more variety. The first one had more content but its mostly boring and unnecessary filler missions and repetitive.
Overall, Marvel's Spider Man 2 is objectively a sequel better than the original. Anyone agrees with me 👇
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, but it's not very convincing when you say that my points are invalid while dismissing context and making broad statements. It's fair that you like the game, and I'm glad that you do, but making a bad faith argument doesn't help anyone.
@@nopeyepp I am saying your points are invalid because you don't understand the context so I'm correcting you
@@Shahriyararin63 there's no "invaid" when it comes to facts.
who tf says "invaid" u can't even spell that right it's *invalid and pointing out the game flaws isn't invalid and I don't think u know what invalid means.
@@Oldschool1943 I don't think you have seen the video or read my comment properly. He is just one of those people that doesn't understand the context. I did spelled Invalid properly
-Venom is not a sympathetic character. You said it yourself that Harry's vision is twisted by the symbiote into what it wants, not what Harry wants. We also see this manipulation demonstrated when Peter is told by Venom to kill Kraven, as well as what happens to MJ with the Scream transformation. None of that would tell the player that Venom is a sympathetic character but would instead indicate the exact opposite: that it uses a host to achieve its own twisted vision, which causes a substantial amount of destruction along the way.
-The amount of time Harry has without the symbiote is entirely dependent on the structure of the story. They could have explored more into Peter's addiction with the symbiote, but they chose to cut it short. At best, it feels rushed and we only get a handful of moments that really stand out as a result (those being when Peter confronts MJ and Harry, and Peter's comments during the lizard fight).
-Peter did not beat Venom or Scream. He defeated the Lizard and Kraven while having the symbiote, and he also was originally killed by Kraven without even getting a shot on him. Peter was also almost killed by Sandman and Venom and had to be subsequently saved by Miles both times. Despite Anti-Venom Peter being defeated during the fight with Venom, Miles is able to fight Venom to a standstill. Miles also fights Venom Peter to a standstill.
-Could you please expand on why you believe Miles' arc was good? I'm not saying you're right or wrong necessarily, I just wanna know your thoughts.
The overall game is really good but like many games nowadays the story has many flaws because it tries to do so many things (which eventually leads to a lack of depth in many areas) and I actually did think exactly what you thought about the ideas that they should have “swapped plots” with the two characters, sort of like they were trying to checkmark everything they wanted to do in a single game.
Honestly I think they just wanted to get the story bits done and out of the way to get into a broader world with many super heroes 🦸♀️ unfortunately
I agree wholeheartedly it was ass. They didn’t improve shit besides the swinging, the story went downhill too
Another dog shiiiitt comment.