Moving out of Hypervigilance Helps You Move out of Symptoms

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  • @liannevalle
    @liannevalle ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Jim, I love how you don't encourage pacing. Instead you implore us to keep going, keep moving.

  • @kellogsbigmix
    @kellogsbigmix ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I've had this problems since I was a child...it is a hard cycle to break even with the knowledge I have gained over the years and listening and being a part of this channel. When one issue is worked out another pops up...this horrible cycle of hypervigilance awareness is what I've dealt with most of my adult life. It is mentally exhausting and trying to turn this need to know what is happening with different body noises off is difficult! This forum helps remind me what is really happening (mentally)

    • @jeannes.356
      @jeannes.356 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Me too! One thing that has helped me in the past, is getting to the point where I truly am ok with it going either way. I don’t care anymore. I’m not going to try to control it anymore.

  • @lindapelle8738
    @lindapelle8738 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Jim, I have no idea if you get messages from videos that are a year old claims this is from a year ago about hypervigilance. It’s just such a great video I had to say bravo to you! I know I have this it’s not like you’re telling me anything I don’t know, but somehow hearing it from someone else makes it sinking a little bit better. So if you read this thank you I’m new at this learning as much as I can. TN Atypical 2 way too many years. I have stopped researching many years ago because the stories are so horrible. No one was getting better not one person on any of these sites got better only typical tn. Unfortunately that kept me from finding people like you guys.

  • @jeannes.356
    @jeannes.356 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Thanks, Jim. I have pppd, made worse after 2 non-related recent brain surgeries. My dizziness is very intense all the time. But movement, poor sleep, stress and sodium increases it. I understand the loop of dizziness and anxiety. I try to do my head exercises when I’m not in a high stress mode. Thank you for your calm demeanor and insightful videos.

    • @pablobano2464
      @pablobano2464 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi just came across this comment. Check my pppd success story with dr Yo. Pablo success story

  • @earthling1377
    @earthling1377 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You're the only person I've heard talk about monotonous environments, and this couldn't be more relatable to me. Tysm

  • @pannavaddhi6573
    @pannavaddhi6573 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I am a meditator, and this video is a brake through for me. 💯

  • @creepykarpis11
    @creepykarpis11 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I find that 25mg Endep at night this reduces my pain and Anxiety around 50% it helps with the perception of pain alot. I do believe this fellow Jim is right on the money about why chronic pain persists for years sometimes decades i have tried many TMS approaches in recent years with some success for short periods. The problem is Chronic pain is such a overwhelming powerful emotional experience its very difficult to remain indifferent about the symptoms..

  • @followtheleader_k9431
    @followtheleader_k9431 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love all your videos you are a true master in this field. Severely times your voice alone has helped me out of back pain that in the past not even a trip to the hospital could fix. Thanks you!

  • @darrend2035
    @darrend2035 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Hey Jim just wanted to reach out
    100% I’m in that hyper alert and hyper vigilance
    I’ve been trying my best to CALM my nervous system but man it’s difficult sometimes 😅
    If a horn honks or anything similar I immediately get jumpy and edgy

    • @kaypendergast5676
      @kaypendergast5676 ปีที่แล้ว

      So do I - ...

    • @tanyawieczorek6603
      @tanyawieczorek6603 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Did you figure how to do it?
      I'm in a bad POTS flare up due to being startled by a very loud noise 😮

  • @casario2808
    @casario2808 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Super helpful. Somatic tracking i.e. mindfulness or "open awareness" can so easily slip into the same old problem habits of hypervigilance and all the BS that leads to. The difference I guess is then former involves just not giving a sh^t. Simple but not easy and so these insights are very useful. PS I also benefit from good ol' CBT to just deal with the "behaviors" (habit of scanning the body; googling symptoms etc.). It may not solve MBS but can help keep away from the "tipping point" for getting into a terrible rough patch of symptoms and amplifying them.

  • @SophieDek-w8g
    @SophieDek-w8g ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fear yes! Ik sta altijd op alert. Dit kan ik nu herkennen en reguleren. Duizen maal dank dank dank

  • @jmc8076
    @jmc8076 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’m binging in your videos today. ✌️

  • @moneygetten
    @moneygetten ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We are spreading the word.....this is gold

  • @sergiogomez6
    @sergiogomez6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love your content and I appreciate all that you do. This work is still so darn hard for me because things just dont make sense. All of my symptoms came to me post vaccine and I am like the same broken record story as everyone else that has gone to every possible doctor, have tried every type of specialty, countless tests and scans and nothing shows wrong with me, yet I feel like death everyday. I find it so hard to wrap my head around that. Am i nervous , Yes! Am i scared, Yes! but who wouldnt be with 3 years of random unexplainable chronic pain symptoms. I just want to wake up from this nightmare one day. I have been following you, the steady coach, Raegen, Nicole Sachs, Dan Buglio and everything makes sense but nothing is resolving itself.

    • @annemarieedwards68
      @annemarieedwards68 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My pain also came on post vaccine. I have been working hard nutritionally to try to clear my body of any spike proteins. I find a strict anti inflammatory diet and anti inflammatory supplements to be helpful. This may help along with the mind work. God bless.

    • @sergiogomez6
      @sergiogomez6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@annemarieedwards68 I appreciate that , 3 years in and I knew about what you just mentioned but have not tried it yet with full effort and intentions, I think I’m going to have to for sure.

    • @kaylabryson1932
      @kaylabryson1932 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sergiogomez6my son uses anti histamine supplements with meals. Really helped him.

    • @pattyboucetta1897
      @pattyboucetta1897 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Never get any vaccine ever!

  • @knaberr
    @knaberr ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you Jim, this explanation is amazing. I love that you use studies to back up your perspective as well.
    Could you talk more about strategies to reduce the perceived threat of the symptoms? I struggle with constantly searching for fixes to my pain; scouring research papers and forums, trying different specialists and treatments. It’s exhausting and it’s been 3 years now without resolving my symptoms which makes me feel hopeless. I know these behaviors are increasing fear but I struggle to stop because it feels like the doctors don’t have answers (for in my case pain with digestion aka “IBS”) and so I need to find them myself. How can I start to fully embrace that I am OK and stop trying to “fix”?

  • @lindapelle8738
    @lindapelle8738 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Me too, I was born in the 60s my mom had Rh negative blood they didn’t know how to deal with it in the womb back then so I was premature by one month and they had to do a blood transfusion through my head. The doctor walked in my mom said blood head to toe he said I never saw a baby fight that hard. Of course they didn’t use pain medication back then and I still don’t use it much today on babies. So I’ve been a wreck since day one hypervigilant highly sensitive before all of the chronic stuff started in my mid-30s. I totally know what you mean. Ingrained in subconscious.

  • @thedancingdivaofdaviestree2320
    @thedancingdivaofdaviestree2320 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is fascinating. I was born hypervigilant as I was thrust into the world 3 months early because of a major car accident that totaled our car. (It didn't help that my father was a union leader, and I had death threats in the cradle and bomb threat phone calls regularly.) At 2, we kids were taught to defend ourselves from kidnappers. You develop an awareness of everything around you - "eyes in the back of your head" - when there are potential actual threats. But I was never taught to let that go. Later bullying added to that - until my mother taught me to fight back. That let me know I could take action to protect myself calmly - but all the previous trauma got trapped in the body, and the habit of hypervigilance even after I'd clocked my bullies and was safe. (Bullies are such cowards.) The body is surprisingly resilient, and it took 12 major stressors for me to develop MEFM - and I now see how though I fully expected to get well, my brain was in the habit of misconceiving minor issues as "Danger" even when I wasn't aware of that. Facing the emotions and fears hidden in the body repressed at the time are key. Thank you, these are SO helpful in calming tension and getting to the root of the pain. Do you think someone with lifelong hypervigilance can heal fully?

    • @tanyawieczorek6603
      @tanyawieczorek6603 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Did you ever figure this out?
      How are you doing now?

    • @thedancingdivaofdaviestree2320
      @thedancingdivaofdaviestree2320 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tanyawieczorek6603 I am very active for someone with MEFM - I write, perform, exercise and socialize but I still have a lot of pain and fatigue. I'm quite sure a large part of that of that is due to neuroplasticity, as I had 6 years completely free of chronic fatigue symptoms with minimal pain. Bliss!
      But 4 years of major and inescapable stress brought it back.
      But this time I know there's nothing to fear and am finding ways to teach my crocodile brain that! I do somatic tracking, Chi Gong, and trauma release exercises regularly. When the stress finally lessens, I think I will heal once more. (Am thinking of trying neurofeedback to help rewire my brain.)

    • @thedancingdivaofdaviestree2320
      @thedancingdivaofdaviestree2320 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tanyawieczorek6603 I've had CFS/ME for 54 years - and as a writer and researcher, I tried to find out what caused it. No-one ever asked what happened BEFORE the symptoms developed, which as mentioned were multiple major stressors, 4 of them traumas. I thought at the time it might be psychosomatic, but altering my thinking did nothing. Learning to express repressed emotions and face old grief and trauma brought me the most relief, as did getting OFF the medications doctors had prescribed. (Turns out they were harming, not helping me.) Journaling, shaking and dancing are great ways to release emotions. Various forms of meditation help too - I love Chi Gong, yoga nidra, and guided visualizations. I also share my story in writers groups and perform at various venues. Sharing our stories heals. More time in the community or in nature, and less on the computer helps a ton, as it creates cortisol, a stress hormones.
      Doing that after quitting 5 medications helped me go from crawling - my blood pressure was so incurably low - to dancing, and from being mostly housebound and bedridden to being fully active and living a rich, full life. I got 80% better on my own. Now I've discovered the missing piece - brain rewiring, which explains my brain is trying to protect me by turning on Fight/Flight 24/7, which somatic researchers discovered floods you with the stress hormones that cause much of the pain and exhaustion, I hope one day to recover completely!
      But I'm fitter, more active, and more creative already at 70 than I was in my 30s and 40s! I figured out a lot intuitively by listening to my body, and by doing research in mind/body work, which I've been interested in for years. Dr. Shubiner's work, Alan Gordon's book The Way Out, Bessel van der Kolk's pioneering book on trauma, all taught me a lot. Best of luck, and may you recover fully!

  • @Peterstevoli
    @Peterstevoli หลายเดือนก่อน

    👍Definitely helpful.

  • @ManifestingItAll
    @ManifestingItAll ปีที่แล้ว +3

    IMO Hyper-vigilance relates to monitoring of the external environment for potential threats.
    Hyperawareness might be more appropriate for discussing placing attention and importance on internal sensations and symptoms.

  • @sunnymoondog
    @sunnymoondog 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is LIFE-CHANGING ❤❤❤❤

  • @dgvokes
    @dgvokes 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for another informative video. This is exactly where I am stuck. I know this is TMS, but my brain keeps seeing it as a huge threat. Trying to work on reducing hypervigilance.

  • @katnip198
    @katnip198 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is so helpful.
    Bless you for sharing this wisdom.

  • @sidgoyari6931
    @sidgoyari6931 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you!❤

  • @jjooeegg1
    @jjooeegg1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good video 👍of many on your channel I noticed . Subscribed

  • @g.siporin4000
    @g.siporin4000 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That’s me!!

    • @thesheepman220
      @thesheepman220 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol 😂not at you of course but your truthful answer take care

  • @fmcia2
    @fmcia2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Jim, I really enjoy your videos. I am trying to use all your techniques to move out of my chronic upper back pain following my neck surgeries.

  • @rayjoseph1799
    @rayjoseph1799 ปีที่แล้ว

    Heartburn/throat symptoms globus etc -.your videos are helping. Thank you

  • @jongpw50
    @jongpw50 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This helped a lot. Thank you

  • @shantanuchauhan8376
    @shantanuchauhan8376 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    you are amazing. Experienced with applied knowledge

  • @rebeccachew2321
    @rebeccachew2321 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you .

  • @TMM909
    @TMM909 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really great information!

  • @ranisahota1084
    @ranisahota1084 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you so much 🙏

  • @Conquerchronicillness
    @Conquerchronicillness 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing talk!!!

  • @sparkely1122
    @sparkely1122 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love watching crime! Not sure why I love love it so much lol but I do. I’ve noticed everytime I watch it I get headaches 😢

  • @Imhoteppa
    @Imhoteppa ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dear Jim, can you help me with this question please? I’ve been having chronic dizziness / feeling of being unstable 24/7 the past couple of weeks. I am
    Already familiar with lots of symptoms that are probably TMS (fibromyalgia, insomnia, fatigue and so on) First I thought it was because of a few nights in which I couldn’t sleep well. Then I thought it could be because of my neck and shoulders that have been more tense than usual. But now I’ve had a few ‘good’ nights of sleep and my shoulders don’t hurt, but I have still a lot of dizziness. It’s making me desperate and anxious because I can’t function like this. It feels like you’re going to fall over all the time. I just went out for a walk and it was so bad I started crying out of fear and frustration. Even my right ear started ringing as if I was going to faint. Do you recognize these as TMS symptoms? And how can I deal with it? I already use your meditations a lot. Thank you

  • @eileenlocke7877
    @eileenlocke7877 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Still got long term pain osteoarthritis etc . Whould do anything to be free of pain thank u Jim regards uk 🇬🇧

  • @darrend2035
    @darrend2035 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m a sufferer of migraines and sometimes I noticed if I start to eat something and moving my mouth around that the pain sometimes goes away and then comes back when I stop eating
    I believe this it was disrupts the signal temporarily

  • @idragonfly
    @idragonfly ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Could intense chronic fatigue be caused by hypervigilance as well?

  • @ezza1236
    @ezza1236 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How to you stop hypervegilinxe to things like noise and lights and sounds, do we keep reinforcing that these stimulus is not dangerous

  • @marieberglund149
    @marieberglund149 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    💔💔💔that’s my life everyday scanning my body, I don’t know Hove to stop

  • @teresacooke7867
    @teresacooke7867 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do you have any videos that we can watch with practicing mindwork to help gut issues bloating distension pain and abdomen tightness and food sensitivity I have severe issues with bloat and pain inflammation into my ribs and distension and radiating pain it’s chronic and caused me to be homebound bedridden along with gastritis I can’t calm any if this it has crippled me and I’m looking to come out if this with my mind is there any practices on video you have for this thank you

    • @Cj-4885
      @Cj-4885 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Are you out of it now?

  • @KingStoner23
    @KingStoner23 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve tried different programs , had a coach through Dr Schubiner’s program…. The coach just wasn’t on your level ! It DID NOT help me , you sir resonate with me ! You definitely make me a believer that I can HEAL !

  • @blanebostock
    @blanebostock หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi. I have prostate cancer- in remission for now- but also emphysema and a traumatic brain injury, with exacerbation from a recent car crash. My younger brother died recently of a heart condition and my 41 year old step- daughter died last week also from heart related problems. My mother died from a chronic heart condition as well. When I was 21 I had a heart attack and a profound near-death experience. My TBI, symptoms include vertigo, constant imbalance and headaches. I also have vestibular migraine and cervical stenosis. All of my conditions are, according to my doctors “incurable”. I see a therapist every week, but the amount of trauma I’ve experienced since childhood- witnessing atrocities, including my own long term abuse have left me with PTSD, flashbacks, etc. My question is : how do I convince my brain that there is no danger when so much of my life has given me evidence to the contrary?-yes, indeed there IS danger! Train wrecks, false imprisonment, multiple car accidents, friends raped and murdered, robberies- I feel like the moment I drop my guard I am exposing myself to the next blow from life. I get the concept of taking focus away from symptoms , I just wonder how much distraction is possible when there are a group of actual physical injuries. As dramatic as my story is, I manage to have a life rich with family friends and music. Sometimes I don’t feel anything at all!

  • @kategreinke7809
    @kategreinke7809 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi, I’m wondering what your take is on a brain injury that is technically still present? I have had a brain decompression two years ago but I am left with a syrinx in my spinal cord that affects my limbs etc.
    do you think this work could still be effective for me?
    I’ve seen a lot of talk in this community about using this work when you are clear of any true illness/injury. But what about using it in tandem with physical therapies? Surely it can only be helpful to bring the brain into a place of safety even when the body and brain have been severely affected.
    Would love to hear your thoughts. Thank you for these videos!!!

  • @kerrijodierberger
    @kerrijodierberger 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So what are you or did you withdraw, and what were your symptoms.

  • @pattyboucetta1897
    @pattyboucetta1897 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What daily practices should we be doing?

  • @faithburns8379
    @faithburns8379 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If something is so severely painful, how can you not think about it every minute?

  • @chris-vo1nh
    @chris-vo1nh หลายเดือนก่อน

    Any one notice the there peripheral vision is in use more, even when just sat there

  • @Farhiya-b8f
    @Farhiya-b8f หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can't sleep at night due to death anxiety, I can't logic out of it ive tried. I can't help but have panic, what can I do

  • @nickyblanksma352
    @nickyblanksma352 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Can that also be the cause if burning pain in feet and legs and tinnitus?

    • @idragonfly
      @idragonfly ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Would like to know Jim's opinion on this as well -- except for me, add on hyperacusis to go along with the tinnitus.

    • @Moonless6491
      @Moonless6491 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have pain that presents as pelvic/urinary pain and when it flares, my feet and legs burn too. Yes, absolutely it can be. Tinnitus as well.

    • @thepainpt
      @thepainpt  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yea can be a contributing factor sometimes a big one if you are prone to hypervigilance. Any symptom can be escalated through hypervigilance and especially mind body ones like people are mentioning here

    • @thesheepman220
      @thesheepman220 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@idragonflytinnitus yes I have it people think it’s a ear problem but it’s the message too the brain gets interrupted so I’m told

    • @mcup1982
      @mcup1982 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Moonless6491 i get this too and the burning will continue through brain and entire body

  • @bebrave9108
    @bebrave9108 ปีที่แล้ว

    What would you say about Peyronie’s disease? Some people never have pain but a lot do.
    I know Dr Shubiner states that scar tissue doesn’t cause pain.

  • @aikoshimada3167
    @aikoshimada3167 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What types of symptoms are thought of sub-acute symptoms?

  • @martamichelle7
    @martamichelle7 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what is BS when referenced with TMS?

  • @hew195050
    @hew195050 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m confused about the difference between distracting oneself from watching symptoms and sitting and allowing them. They seem to be contradicting thoughts.

  • @nwunnoticewhatyounotice6136
    @nwunnoticewhatyounotice6136 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wish we would eliminate the word 'anxiety' completely, as it seems to be a catch-all for 'i have no idea what's going on with me and I don't like it!!!'. Seth Porges (Stephen's son) describes in a way that resonates with me post-concussion (and this is my rewording) as an over-stimulated nervous system - ie in fight-flight-freeze-fawn all the time without awareness that that is what it is so we can just call it 'anxiety' instead. And the way you're using the word in this video seems to be completely interchangeable with the word fear. Eliminating the word requires us to go inside and get clearer about what is happening in our brain, body and mind, imo.

  • @sherylmarshall1444
    @sherylmarshall1444 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can your methods work for reflux and gastritis / ibs?

    • @Cj-4885
      @Cj-4885 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey are you out of it now?

    • @sherylmarshall1444
      @sherylmarshall1444 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Cj-4885 yes and no. I was alot better until a week ago but I’ve had a flare so working on calming again as trying to do more in life and my body a bit stressed. Hopefully will settle down again soon and trying not to focus on it so much as I really did last time and the flared lasted so so so long.

    • @Cj-4885
      @Cj-4885 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sherylmarshall1444 do you still have gastritis?

    • @Cj-4885
      @Cj-4885 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sherylmarshall1444 do you still have gastritis?

    • @Cj-4885
      @Cj-4885 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sherylmarshall1444 Can you share me your instagram id if you are comfortable? I would like to have your guidance on my stomach issues.