Borla Exhaust for Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 392

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  • Hear and compare Borla's ATAK & S-Type systems with the stock exhaust of the 2021-2023 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 392.
    More Information: www.borla.com/2021-2022-jeep-...
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  • @baboolubey
    @baboolubey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Stock system sounds pretty bad ass! However, the S-Type seems to be the winner!

    • @EliB207
      @EliB207 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I prefer the Atak

    • @scary_scat3924
      @scary_scat3924 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I just had the S type installed on my 392 .It’s a deeper fuller sound then stock and doesn’t have the raspy sound of the atak

  • @matadorprime6555
    @matadorprime6555 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Crazy how you can make an already great sounding system sound even better! Love it!

  • @bodom06051
    @bodom06051 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Can’t wait to put the Atak on my 392!

  • @Jamesppoitra
    @Jamesppoitra ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Honestly, the S type sounds really good

  • @darknessislight3689
    @darknessislight3689 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Phenomenal job 🥇🏆 as usual

  • @ChrisWeber1
    @ChrisWeber1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice touch with the cone falling over after the ATAK, sign me up!

  • @scary_scat3924
    @scary_scat3924 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I just installed the borla S type on my 392 and it’s a louder and a deeper fuller sound over stock.However it’s a little louder with the valves closed then it was stock

    • @shanghai1423
      @shanghai1423 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’m waiting for someone to make a system that is louder than stock open valves, but also quieter with closed valves than stock.

  • @rblbatb
    @rblbatb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video.

  • @anthonycoffey6565
    @anthonycoffey6565 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Considering the nonexistent sound deadening of wranglers I could only imagine how loud the atak sounds from inside 😵‍💫

  • @Dmitry.GSP4
    @Dmitry.GSP4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Божественный звук 🤤❤️❤️❤️

  • @anthonyellison8680
    @anthonyellison8680 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love it

  • @dominickirkwood
    @dominickirkwood 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love it borla keep up the work and I love the video lot real true and I wish you guys make a exhaust for my 2022buick envision st I love it please 🙏

  • @Jet.Endlight
    @Jet.Endlight 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm doing a 6.4L hemi swap and I rly wanted to incorporate this and most of the 392 rubicon set up on a 2010 jk unlimited.

  • @BlackJeepConvertible
    @BlackJeepConvertible ปีที่แล้ว

    damn they all sound good 😍 i feel like such a peasant

  • @CtPirate
    @CtPirate 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    YES TAKE MY WALLET!!! Nice job guys

  • @MrJeepCanada
    @MrJeepCanada ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy cow!

  • @jonluchessi1643
    @jonluchessi1643 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice👍👍

  • @mattsellars8497
    @mattsellars8497 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Can you guys post a video showing the difference on both s-type and atak with performance mode on/off?

  • @mattbrew11
    @mattbrew11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Has this been tested with any aftermarket off road suspensions or gas tank skids?

  • @vanquish_engineering
    @vanquish_engineering 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This looks a lot better than what Magnaflow offers. Very interesting.

  • @user-tc9yv4tr9y
    @user-tc9yv4tr9y 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That tow hook will be one 🔥 🔥 TAMALE!!!!

  • @NamelessGlasses
    @NamelessGlasses 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Were the Hutchinson Rock Monsters used on this 392 the 18×9s or 17×8.5s? Also on spacers?

  • @shockerracing
    @shockerracing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you guys measured how much ground clearance is gained with the exhaust?

  • @ClimbToWealth
    @ClimbToWealth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Want!!!

  • @Joes-Adventures71
    @Joes-Adventures71 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Pretty hard to improve on the stock sound and for 3k I don't really hear an improvement. That being said I like how it's tucked in there better for clearance. I'm leaving mine stock til I rip it off on a rock. I'll be sure to keep the valves ;)

  • @mikebecker701
    @mikebecker701 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will the Metal Cloak muffler skid plate still fit over your system?

  • @raman9368
    @raman9368 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does the atak increase the performance or just sound...?

  • @angelmtz4you
    @angelmtz4you 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Any issues with aftermarket rear 3.0 shocks. Ive been reading and people saying exhaust muffler tips kind of having contact with rear shocks, upgraded shocks such as fox 3.0?

  • @jasonostolaza6957
    @jasonostolaza6957 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stock all the way

  • @roberthamilton7013
    @roberthamilton7013 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you are considering these pass on them. I ordered the Borla ATAK in September of 2021 from my Corvette dealer. They did not arrive until a/4/22. It was so long I decided not install these and had found another product available. Borla with not having even made them yet refused to cancel the order. Grudgingly, I had them installed and low and behold it has an issue that generates a sound like you have a fan belt that is loose. So now I have to order a replacement for 3 to 5 months from now while driving what sounds like a souped up '72 Vega. The candle on top of the icing is that Borla will not pay for the require labor to remove their faulty product and install the new set. They do not have good customer service and will not support you their customer.

    • @borla
      @borla  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hi, I'm sorry to hear about the long wait for your new exhaust and that it seems to be defective! All Borla Cat-Backs are covered by a Million-Mile manufacturer’s warranty and we would be glad to send you a replacement system. If I may ask, were you working directly with one of our Customer Service team members or your parts distributor for a replacement? We always recommend contacting us directly for issues with our products. Please reach out to our Customer Service Manager for help getting a replacement system and to discuss potential reimbursement. His email address is ChrisB@Borla.com. Again, I apologize for inconvenience and trouble. We'll get you taken care of. Thank you.

    • @lesfigueroa1049
      @lesfigueroa1049 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Borla’s has always offered great service. First of all, what products in this world right now aren’t on B/O. You ordered it from your “Corvette Dealer”, did they tell you the 100% truth thru the entire process? There is no way it was ordered, guaranteed to ship, and then you had to wait 4 months without knowing? I call BS. As far as your noise, sure anything is possible. Alex Borla was a innovator with many products, always staying on top of technology. Just recently, he and his engineer visited an account to keep moving forward on products, both got Covid, both died. Ease up a bit snowflake.

    • @FJBMAGAPatriotUSA1
      @FJBMAGAPatriotUSA1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You should have ordered the system for corvette, we could have told you the jeep one’s wouldn’t work!🤣🤣🤣

  • @grisa12345
    @grisa12345 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love this video, but that tow hook is going to be hot AF if anyone needs to use it.

  • @GodspeedZRZ
    @GodspeedZRZ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome design love the aggressive rear appearance. Send me the ATAK system and I will show it off on my channel! My "Free exhaust" is a bit too loud for videos haha

  • @sheaallen7839
    @sheaallen7839 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this and can’t wait to put it on my 392!! What’s ETA on when it can be purchased??

    • @borla
      @borla  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hi, just following up. The systems have been released! Link: www.borla.com/2021-2022-jeep-wrangler-rubicon-392-exhaust-systems/

    • @JeepYotaAdventure
      @JeepYotaAdventure 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@borla May we assume this will also fit the 2023 JL392? Just placed my order for a 2023 yesterday. Huge fan of the Borla. I installed one on my 2016 3.6 Rubicon. Amazing sound for a 6 cylinder. Lots of compliments. Great video!! Thanks.

    • @borla
      @borla  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JeepYotaAdventure Hello! These systems will likely carry over to the 2023 model year, however, we will have to confirm fitment.

  • @MrRjezonie
    @MrRjezonie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When can we get these! Love it!

    • @borla
      @borla  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi, just following up. The systems have been released! Link: www.borla.com/2021-2022-jeep-wrangler-rubicon-392-exhaust-systems/

  • @tlh235
    @tlh235 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does this allow for the Performance Exhaust button that comes with the 392. Like can you push the button for a more silent sound when needed.

    • @borla
      @borla  ปีที่แล้ว

      Our system includes valves and will work with the Rubicon 392's active exhaust feature.

  • @jonstegmeir2388
    @jonstegmeir2388 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What wheels are those??

  • @fredcooper7033
    @fredcooper7033 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    How much HP/TQ gains? How much weight savings? Does quiet mode still work?

    • @stealthhtm23
      @stealthhtm23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      would be nice if they responded to this. lots of ppl are wondering

    • @sheaallen7839
      @sheaallen7839 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not sure about weight, but he says in video they retained quiet mode because he talks about the Borla system still flowing more exhaust in quiet mode or loud vs stock.

  • @coryscott1190
    @coryscott1190 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If this is priced right I’ll take it…saw another exhaust but it was 3k for it so if this like a grand or so win win.

    • @kaveersidhu8580
      @kaveersidhu8580 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd say it's gunna be between 1500 to 2000

    • @ridinbmw
      @ridinbmw ปีที่แล้ว

      3.3k for the painted one. Great sounding exhaust but it’s not 3.3k better then the stock exhaust.

  • @darknessislight3689
    @darknessislight3689 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh 🤭 my

  • @jonluchessi1643
    @jonluchessi1643 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video, after watching your video a few times I tried to contact Borla and asked for a tech person for advice on which system to go with but the guy at borla had no clue about the system for the 392 he didn’t even know what I was talking about until he looked it up and I told him there was two systems and he kept telling me there was only one system then he found the other one, basically what I’m trying to find out is who I can talk to at Borla in a voice conversation to make sure I am purchasing the right system I just had simple questions but he could not give me any answers, is there someone that I can contact directly? Any info would be much appreciated, I would be spending a considerable amount of money on the system and I feel I should be able to speak to someone that has knowledge about your products.

    • @borla
      @borla  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello, I'm sorry to hear about your experience with us! Please contact our Customer Service Manager, his email address is ChrisB@Borla.com. You can provide him with your phone number and he can give you a call and answer any questions you may have. Thank you!

  • @danb6546
    @danb6546 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does this system still allow use of the quiet button?

    • @borla
      @borla  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, there will be valves in our system that will work with that feature.

  • @tdsmith
    @tdsmith 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I sent two emails to Borla asking for a local dealer to install these exhaust CRICKETS!
    Does it sound GREAT? Heck ya!
    Can you purchase them, maybe; however, you first need a company that gives a darn.

    • @borla
      @borla  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi, I’m sorry to hear you haven’t received a response! Unfortunately, we don’t have a network of local dealers that we work with for us to recommend. Any reputable shop in your area should be more than capable of performing the install.

  • @madeleinedavitt
    @madeleinedavitt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can’t find the dual tip model’s you’ve used in this video! Can you please link me!

    • @borla
      @borla  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi! I’m afraid we don’t have a dual tip version. We are only offering quad tips as exhaust system has valves. The system in the video has quad tips, but are difficult to see in some shots.

    • @madeleinedavitt
      @madeleinedavitt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey! Sorry I did mean quad tips! When are they available to buy and will they fit the 2019 wrangler Overland?

  • @nickplavunov3329
    @nickplavunov3329 ปีที่แล้ว

    поеду на этом в Нью Йорк перед Рождеством

  • @kdk200
    @kdk200 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought wranglers weren't aerodynamic or stable at high speeds, why put a large engine in it?

  • @ixibladeixi2639
    @ixibladeixi2639 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just made up my mind. GTHaus sounds better. I will be getting those instead. Good video tho.

  • @rockyp544
    @rockyp544 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s all good but who can duplicate the quality work like this anymore. If I wanted this exact set up there’s no one to go to.

  • @devantesmith3658
    @devantesmith3658 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    IS it only for the 392 or can it fit on 2020 JL as well.. sounds amazing !

    • @borla
      @borla  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi. I’m afraid these systems will only work on the Rubicon 392 as the exhaust setup is different from the Wrangler JL/JLU 3.6L V6 and 2.0L Turbo. We do also offer products for the 3.6L and the 2.0L.

  • @thefasttrack2839
    @thefasttrack2839 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can someone comment the rim and tire combo on this ? Even the brand of the wheels would be fine

    • @AndyLuDesign
      @AndyLuDesign 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hutchinson Beadlock with cooper discoverer STT

  • @roberthockman6618
    @roberthockman6618 ปีที่แล้ว

    There's a switch on the interior that I can flip between "Hush Mode and Pissed Off Mode"?? That would be the seller for me!!

    • @borla
      @borla  ปีที่แล้ว

      Our Cat-Back systems work with the Active Exhaust feature from factory!

  • @TheMrJonnycat
    @TheMrJonnycat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have one of the first 392 Wranglers, and it's already highly modified on 40's and 5.13 gears. I have 1 ton axles going under it this month, and would like to know how much different the pipe routing is around the rear axle? I don't want to spend a bunch of money on your exhaust if it might cause clearance issues. Thanks, sound outstanding BTW!

    • @borla
      @borla  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi! The routing is similar to the stock exhaust, however, the pipe diameter has been increased from 2.75" to 3".

    • @TheMrJonnycat
      @TheMrJonnycat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@borla Great.......What our timeframe for the release of the ATAK version?

    • @borla
      @borla  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi, just following up. The systems have been released! Link: www.borla.com/2021-2022-jeep-wrangler-rubicon-392-exhaust-systems/

  • @anthonywolford422
    @anthonywolford422 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    WHEN WILL THIS BE AVAILABLE?

    • @borla
      @borla  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi, just following up. The systems have been released! Link: www.borla.com/2021-2022-jeep-wrangler-rubicon-392-exhaust-systems/

  • @chadhoffman3890
    @chadhoffman3890 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nobody responds to my emails so I’ll try here lol.... when are you going to have a system for the new 21+ Tahoe? My truck looks great but can barely hear the damn thing.

    • @borla
      @borla  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi, I'm sorry you haven't received a response. I'll be sure to bring this up to our Customer Service Team. We do plan to release Cat-Backs for the current generation Tahoe 5.3L and 6.2L. However, I'm afraid we don't currently have a release time frame. Sorry about that.

  • @nickhubert5061
    @nickhubert5061 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I can afford the exhaust, but not the Jeep. Dang it!

    • @EliB207
      @EliB207 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can afford both 💪🏾

    • @nevadaboy9769
      @nevadaboy9769 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EliB207 i dont know borla just raised the prices about another 15% or so! i have an s type catback #140429 2011 silverado on backorder from Jegs since mid January i paid $962 including tax but borla wont have any to ship until around 4/22 so im still waiting, good thing as of today it is $ 1222.99 w/o tax at Jegs, summit & most places, so at that rate i can afford the peej lol

  • @MrRomeo227
    @MrRomeo227 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Borla, Will You Offer Some Catback Exhaust For Tahoe - Suburban / Yukon 5.3L V8 and 6.2L V8, And Escalade 6.2L V8

    • @borla
      @borla  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, we do have plans to offer exhaust systems for the current generation Tahoe, Suburban, and Escalade. Unfortunately, we don’t have a release time frame at the moment.

    • @MrRomeo227
      @MrRomeo227 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@borla 2021-2022 Or 2015-2020

    • @borla
      @borla  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrRomeo227 The current generation model years are 2021 and up.

  • @brycebalthaser6718
    @brycebalthaser6718 ปีที่แล้ว

    I ordered the Atak about 2 months ago and it has yet to show up to my house. Idk what’s going on

    • @borla
      @borla  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi, we're sorry to hear about the long wait! When we first release a system we typically do not have any in stock. Unfortunately, we did experience manufacturing delays as well. However, we have started shipping out these Rubicon 392 systems. Please contact our Customer Service team to get an ETA on your order. You can call us at 1-877-462-6752 (Monday-Friday 7:30am-4:00pm Pacific Time) or you can email us at Sales@Borla.com. Thank you.

    • @zachwick5362
      @zachwick5362 ปีที่แล้ว

      At least they made a system for the 392. The exhaust options are slim on this vehicle. And I definitely have this on the top of my list.

  • @user-ug1dy3dw2z
    @user-ug1dy3dw2z 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    can it be install on 3.6L?

    • @borla
      @borla  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This will not work on a 3.6L JLU Wrangler. However, we do offer separate exhaust systems for the 3.6L models.

  • @spencermorrow2899
    @spencermorrow2899 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this released yet

    • @borla
      @borla  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not quite yet, we are aiming to release them before the end of June.

    • @borla
      @borla  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi, just following up. The systems have been released! Link: www.borla.com/2021-2022-jeep-wrangler-rubicon-392-exhaust-systems/

  • @AnayanationAutoDetailing
    @AnayanationAutoDetailing 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Exhaust still not out yet?

    • @borla
      @borla  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm afraid not. We're currently looking at early to mid July.

    • @AnayanationAutoDetailing
      @AnayanationAutoDetailing 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@borla Thank you

    • @borla
      @borla  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi, just following up. The systems have been released! Link: www.borla.com/2021-2022-jeep-wrangler-rubicon-392-exhaust-systems/

    • @AnayanationAutoDetailing
      @AnayanationAutoDetailing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@borla I appreciate the heads up but $3400 for an exhaust is a little too much for me. Thanks 🙏

  • @stevehinkley1530
    @stevehinkley1530 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wheel/tire specs?

    • @scary_scat3924
      @scary_scat3924 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Look like 37s

    • @AndyLuDesign
      @AndyLuDesign 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hutchinson Beadlock with cooper discoverer STT

  • @jonathanandersen5640
    @jonathanandersen5640 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi any release date yet?

    • @borla
      @borla  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello. I'm afraid we don't have a release date at this time. Please check back in with us at a later date. Thank you.

    • @borla
      @borla  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi, just following up. The systems have been released! Link: www.borla.com/2021-2022-jeep-wrangler-rubicon-392-exhaust-systems/

    • @jonathanandersen5640
      @jonathanandersen5640 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@borla I just ordered a black Atak!

    • @jonathanandersen5640
      @jonathanandersen5640 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@borla can you tell me if you guys foresee the black coating wearing or scraping off? Would the stainless be more durable?

    • @borla
      @borla  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jonathanandersen5640 The black coating is durable. However, depending on how often you take your Jeep off-road, it's possible that rocks may eventually chip the finish.

  • @ehabtabl2382
    @ehabtabl2382 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you still use the quiet mode?

    • @borla
      @borla  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, this system will have valves and you will still be able to use quiet mode.

    • @ehabtabl2382
      @ehabtabl2382 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@borla thanks, looking forward to the release date!

    • @ehabtabl2382
      @ehabtabl2382 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can we get an idea on the HP/TQ gains?

  • @Jackal_Blitz
    @Jackal_Blitz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The 392 confuses me. As much as I love the sound from a Scat Pack or Hellcat, it just sounds weird coming out of the Wranglers. It sounds really choked off, and it has a ton of high end clattering sound. These systems sound better than stock for sure (especially the S), but it still feels like there's something missing.
    I'm a huge fan of the ATAK sound that Borla achieved on the Gladiator with the v6, so please don't mistake me for a hater. I'm not. Borla kicks ass. I just think the 392 is a strange beast, and it's still coming through with what I am hearing here.

    • @zachwick5362
      @zachwick5362 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree. The ATAK on the Challenger 392 sounds really good. Something is missing on the Wrangler 392. It sounds good but doesn't have a "GREAT" sound like the Challenger / Charger

    • @Darylrb1983
      @Darylrb1983 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, that high rpm noise your talking about is most likely due to how the exhaust is routed. It looks like the manifolds collect into a Y then to one side, Each bank had its own exhaust pipe, one on each side of the vehicle only connected by an h pipe it may end up sounding like a challenger/charger

    • @scary_scat3924
      @scary_scat3924 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zachwick5362 just installed the borla S type and its a nice improvement,much louder,fuller and more of the challenger sound .nice ,noticeable improvement over stock especially visually

  • @zachwick5362
    @zachwick5362 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone get this bolted on their 392 yet? 😂

  • @numpangkomen787
    @numpangkomen787 ปีที่แล้ว

    sounds like mustang

  • @Lonewolfalchemist
    @Lonewolfalchemist 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looks louder than the drive/speed😂😂😂

  • @ixibladeixi2639
    @ixibladeixi2639 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    392 Magnaflow or this, hmmmm....

    • @zachwick5362
      @zachwick5362 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was thinking the same thing! And I might just install the Borla system except the rear muffler section, and install the last section of piping of the Magnaflow so I can get rid of the muffler in the rear!

    • @ixibladeixi2639
      @ixibladeixi2639 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zachwick5362 They make Rock Crawler version, That might be what you're looking for without the rear muffler.

    • @zachwick5362
      @zachwick5362 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes I am aware of the Magnaflow Rock crawler version for the 392 but I do prefer the sound of Borla. I guess it’s just a personal preference. Thank you for your reply and cheers

  • @davidcolby6661
    @davidcolby6661 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It doesn’t sound any better than the factory exhaust

  • @scottleggejr
    @scottleggejr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I want my 392 to not open the stupid baffles when you floor it. I dont want cops to look at me with all that trashy ruckus 😂 Stellantis engines sound like shit when theyre open 🤮