"Iranians Have Lost Faith in the Ballot Box": Trita Parsi on President Raisi's Death
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- This past weekend, a helicopter crash in the northwest province of East Azerbaijan left no survivors, including Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi. His death comes not only as fighting continues between Iran-backed Hezbollah and Israel, but also just a little over a month since Iran launched its first-ever direct attack on Israel.
Iranian-American relations expert Trita Parsi joined Mehdi to discuss the elephant in the room - whether there was any “foul play” involved with his death, or if anyone is blaming Israel or the U.S. for the crash.
“The regime has a very clear interest in denying that there could have been anything else but an accident, because if there, for instance, had been an Israeli hand in all of this…it would show that the Iranians failed with their attack last month. They did not establish a new equation. They did not restore deterrence,” Parsi said. “Now, having said that, there’s no evidence that the Israelis were behind this.”
Iran has, of course, said they will be holding new elections on June 28th to choose a successor for Raisi, but Parsi tells Mehdi that participation will once again be low, just as it was in March’s parliamentary election.
“The people have lost faith in the idea that change can come through the ballot box. Now they [Iran] are going to be dealt with a crisis, because if they have even record low elections in this one that is upcoming right now, it really takes away a key thing that they had treated as a dose of legitimacy,” Parsi said.
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Never have had an opportunity to hear an in depth conversation about Iran with feeling like you need to take sides...and that side is not to understand Iranians. So thank you Mehdi for opening up this window for me.
This isn't limited to Iranians by the way. Americans, Brits, Pakistanis, Indians etc. have all lost faith in the ballot. But the answer is not another American so-called regime change in the Middle East.
with European elections next month, please add Europeans to your list as well.
Not an American one, but an Iranian one. The regime of the imams is just as foreign and un-Iranian as would be an American-imposed regime, and I'm looking forward to the day that regime falls.
@@mkhedart0mt0avariunderstood quite well. They will turn a page...and start a new one
@@TheInternetFanagree. Europeans are fed up. They remember well the 90's, 2000's, 2010's...not possible to be fooled now
@@mkhedart0mt0avariShame the elected guy before the shah came in was removed, he looked like he would’ve been pretty good.
Have an interview with professor marandi to comperehend more about iran
He was a legend that is why millions of people came to his funeral procession....
Nice to see a thorough conversation on Iran that isn’t solely about how we in the US perceive them.
As an Irania, bunch of nonsense they chewing, that is why they always wrong when it goes about Iran 😂😂😂
Actually I feel that this talk was just another Fox News Iran bashing. No sincerity in it.
@abnadalil3926
Oh wow! As a non Iranian that feels like Iran is not to be trusted...what are we missing?
@@abnadalil3926 Why don't they publish all of the GOOD news about Iran? "Woman happy to get emergency dental surgery with a baton from Islamic Police after walking around without her head covered" "Iranians cannot wait for their unelected mullahs to pick one of their sons to be their next president"
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Thank you for your question Doreen. There are some important points to be made and I'll tell you point after point from this episode:
1. Trita Parsi calls the government and state in Iran a "regime"
If you look up the dictionary of the english word "regime" you will see that it is an authoritarian government. The Iranians rised up against the western ruled monarchy of Pahlavi dynasty to free themselves and decide their own fate. They were led by the most charismatic leadership in Ayatullah Khomeini. Ayatullah Khomeini combined the traditional Islamic state with modern populism government system. Iran is not a democracy acccording to modern western political system, but it is not a regime. Trita Parsi using that word is only echoing Fox News and other propaganda media that seek to depict the Iranian state and governments unpopular and authoritarian.
Iran has elections every four years for amongst other things the government (dowlat) - presidency - and the parliament (majles). Those in the government or parliament do either good or bad. None of them is perfect and it is very difficult to govern Iran because the enemies being Israel and USA since the 1979 revolution when Iran under the leadership of Ayatullah Khomeini took a pro-Palestine and anti.-Israel stance from day one.
2. Trita Parsi claiming that the martyred president had zero creativity and no mind of his own
Why? Because he has had the same opinions as the current leadership of Ayatullah Khamenei (differs from the founder Ayatullah Khomeini). So having the same opinions with the leader makes him "uncreative", "no mind of his own" and "empty vessel" while Bidens administration going to the same foreign policies as Trump had is not him or his administration being uncreative or not having a mind of their own, but it actually is their opinion and shows that Obama was "the aborration".
President Raisi actually did have a mind of his own and was extremely creative and active. He has worked tirelessly ever since he came to government, and has been the only president that has worked all 7 days of the week, meaning no resting. He has established a lot of unexpected relations worldwide through his intelligent ministers hard work, the respected foreign minister Amir-Abdollahian who was martyred with him in the helicopter. These two have fought for the rights of Palestine and the Palestinians and for economic stability and growth in Iran like no other administration ever before them.
Trita Parsi lives, like me, in the west and as an Iranian buisnessman in the West he is in love with the reformists in Iran and their candidate our former president Hasan Rouhani whose sole goal was to enhance the relations with western powers and make a lot of money for himself, his administration and Iranian buisnessmen in the West such as Trita Parsi himself. That's why he claims that Rouhani was creative and good while president Raisi who was the president of the Iranian workers and poor people, is called uncreative.
3. The Assembly of Experts
They have the authority to take away the leadership of the leader of Iran if they deem him uncapable of leading the country, and they also have the authority and duty to choose a leader after the current leader passes away.
What Trita Parsi says that "the conservatives" want a leader of Ayatullah Khamenei who is not supreme is just a load of crap. Because ofirst of all "the conservatives" is a political party in Iran for government in contrast to the reformists. The leaders, both Ayatullah Khomeini and Ayatullah Khamenei have been against the bipartisan system in Iran monkeying after the west and have always talked about the necessity that a presidential candidate himself has something to offer and not the wishes of a group but they have accepted that it turned out to be bipartisanship in Iranian presidential elections. So the conservatives have absolutely nothing to say about the leadership after Ayatullah Khamenei, that is the duty and authority of the Assembly of Experts. Secondly the word "supreme" is wrong in terms of the leadership of Iran as the Assembly of Experts can nullify his leadership and he is generally obligated to lead with conditions ruling over him which I won't go into here because I've already taken a lot of your time.
4. Ayatullah Khameneis son Mojtaba Khamenei as president?
This is just a rumour, the enemies of Iran have spread this rumour hundreds of times and they've spread a lot of other rumours like this one hundreds of times to be able to demonize and ruin the appearance of Iran infront of people who have no connection to Iran and no reliable source of knowledge.
In summary to not take too much of your time:
Iran, like every country in the world, has it's own culture and norms. The sooner the people of the world realise and accept that international relations and cooperation does not mean to force every other people to submit to ones culture and norms the sooner the global community can reach out to each other and accept the differences of each other and attain actual global community where things like alcohol consumption and and public sexuality is permitted in some countries and forbidden in others (i.e west in contrast to Iran), and where people are allowed to raise their children however they want without government interference in some countries but not in other countries (i.e Iran in contrast to the west).
If you want reliable sources to gain more credible knowledge about Iran, with it's differences with the West, I can link them to you.
You can add my facebook account Payam Hassanzadeh-Fetr as friend and inform me that you have done so and I can share more information to you if you are interested.
When did Isreal ever admit to any of their atrocities!!!!!
GET THE WEST AND THEIR TRAITORS OUT OF ALL MUSLIM COUNTRIES.
Typical muslim, always dragging israel in, its ridiculous, they are bad enough already.
They dont deny it
@@alirazi9198 Because they know that would make them especially seem guilty. When dont always need some conspiracy theory, sometimes it just is what people claim: An accident. Iran has very old helicopters and the weather was awful.
@@koch1467 usually* they dont deny it this time they did
Ego did not work for past Iranian presidents. Having none helped Raisi achieve so much as the Iranian crowds show how much they will miss Raisi
Million times agree 👍
Lol Iraianians were celebrating and "Iran is happy" was trending on twitter. People were literally shooting fireworks. The people of iran hate the goverment with a passion. Raisi will not be missed one bit.
@@paymanzargar3635 Millions are glad to see the Butcher of Tehran gone and mourn only that he'll no doubt be replaced by someone just as odious.
Loving Zeteo’s guests and analysis
Please Mehdi, less "crosstalk"...🙏❤️
Thankyou, exactly!!!
how dare you
Wdym
Zeteo is a true news channel that respects its viewers mentality. I wish you prosperity. keep inlighting those who were brainwashed with twisted news that is far from truth.
You cant deny president Raisi brilliant efforts for joining brics, or improving relations with neighbour countries. You cant simply say he was doing nothing.
Sure, the guy's done plenty. The crackdown on women demanding their human rights, the butchery of political dissidents in the 80s, the support for Russia imposing imperialism on its neighbors-- he was a busy man. A garbage man, but a busy one.
keep it up mahdi, love and respect.
Give Iran some respect at least and call it a government, it’s not a regime. That’s a derogatory statement repeated constantly by the West.
So have Americans. It is clear that you have more voice in Congress if you are foreign country than if you are a citizen.
Or if you have enough money to "lobby" (legally bribe) politicians
We’ve all lost faith in the ballot box and in the media.
I can't even begin to imagine that hopeless,helpless feeling. May you continue to see your blessings in your family and friends.
Long live iran
Trita’s awesome, thanks Medhi! Best news out here ❤❤❤❤❤🎉
Two highly intelligent people one one room....❤
not really - too much ambiguity.
Keep up the good work, Mehdi.
Thank you mehdi
Just reacting to the title: America is probably worse.
Up to 2.2 million people attended President Raisi's last funeral ceremony in the city of Mashhad.
BBC and CNN will only show 20 immigrants dancing in Berlin, Amsterdam and Washington.
You mean they were only allowed to show that much by authorities. You keep forgetting Iran doesn't have free press.
They wanted to make sure he was dead
Yeah, that's how they have been lying for decades 😅😅
Bs
What proportion of that crowd were non muslims & women?
This is the most disappointing episode ever I watched, that was based on speculation by so called Irani expert.
Iranian don't want change the way you think, they are making changes in their own ways
your guest is seasoned, educated and objective
Long live the Iran and their people 🇮🇷
Gentile, calmo e profondo.! Una lezione per molti.
Mr Parsi has not been in Iran nor does he speak for Iranians. Like any country, Iran's government has its supporters as well as its detractors.
Dude, you said “Regime” multiple times!
your masters in Isreal won’t slap you if you say”government”
We're not so different after all.
If Iran lost 2 lions every night 5,000 lions are born in Iran.
Long life for my brothers and sisters in Iran.
Thank you Mehdi Hassan for your pure journalist (ZETEO).
Long live Iran ❤❤❤❤
“There are decades where nothing happens; and there are weeks where decades happen.” - Vladimir Ilyich Lenin. I suspect the next several weeks for Iran will be very interesting. Thankyou Mehdi, and your outstanding guest.
Please mor of Trita Parsi, that man is so well spoken as well as very educated. One of my favorite combinations in people
Long live my lovely iran ❤
Fantastic interview and analysis
Great show!
Talked by two talented guys we enjoyed listening to it.
Thank you for a wonderful interview.
Strong arguments by Trita.
Only because he speaks fluent English.If you want to educate yourself listen Dr.Marandi interviews not the west shadow so called "experts".
100%
What are his strong arguments now again?
Not at all! Just some vague arguments
Why are there so many less bad options? Facing the same in South africa rn.
im iranian, great interview. you put it very well. but i dissagree on the point about irans leadership. there is no way that khamenehi agree to a free election. there no hope for democratic change among people. just frustration and rage after the last uprising. and this suicidal regime is getting more and more radical
paid dog
Hopefully Iran can elect a new president that would be working for them & serving in their best interests.
It is very sad to listen again and again and again, regime, regime, regime. All what he says over Iran is too coloured to seriously listen. Critics are very welcome but this is too framed. It just skips normal poeples abilty to reflect. Hope of better interviews soon
God bless Iran and it's struggle against injustice and imperialism around the world! ❤❤
No rational person has any problem with the people of Iran but the regime is beyond odious and they have betrayed the revolution by imposing a form of dictatorship that will eventually ensure another counter revolution at some stage in the future. It will end in tears..
What do we really know about this guy and who does he work for?.
Last election, Iranian were fed up with the Rouhani's administration over JCPOA & many poor quality leadership of Rouhani.
As a result, Raisi election was not successful. After seeing Raisi performance during last 3 years, Iranian will definitely turn up to vote at the next election.
Parsi & people like him in the West don't know anything about election procedures in Iran. Electing Iranian leadership or President is similar to the US. People who are important, influential or popular are choosen to lead the country.
After watching millions if people attending Raisi's funeral across Iran. I would expect high turnover at the next election.
Long live 🇮🇷❤️🇮🇷
Mr. Parsi with all respect, forget that the Iranian not only created the chess, they learned also how to play.Apart my positive positioning by some of Mr. Parsi in his political view and not Economic, Iran can always turned the play cards in their favor like their retailation on April 14th.Hope everything is in the favor of Iranian and the Peace seekers.
Great insight!
Mehdi, Thank you.
President Ebrahim was great leader who ever is against that great man disgrace .
Paid off! They want to do coup of 53 again. Spread the word
need more of Parsa
Clearly anyone who follows the Middle East news knows that Raisi’s funeral was attended by millions. Not just in one city, but all over the major cities in Iran. Agree that there are many opponents and critics of the government there as with any State/Country but you can’t defy the millions who are pro. I thought Zeteo is gonna be an independent journalism but it seems like it’s also like any other news channel with vetted interests from its sponsors. Bring Prof. Marandi and Parsi both on the same table and then it will be a balanced show to watch.
Mehdi Hasan works for American empire.
The people have lost faith that change can come through the ballot box ... hmmm sounds familiar.
Professor Mirandi next to explain who is more informed and an actual Iranian on the ground.
By the experience Mehdi has, I think it is easier for him to find more suitable people to interview in these important issues about Iran!
Trita does this all the time , he starts with some semi valid points ,then unloads the bullshit CIA talking points….
Allah Akbar Khamanei rahbeer
7:30min In the US, there is a sense there is no real choice for change….just one pile of shit is smaller and less stinky
What I do want to know is did the pilots or the president of Iran think that they could fly around the weather, or did the weather just kind of come out of nowhere for them?
Iranian have seen how cheap their presiden and PM live. Is not the 1st Iran have their president and PM assasinated.
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Mehdi, I am one of your biggest supporters and I have an idea. I think you should debate David Brooks on the Israel Palestine issue. He is very smart and eloquent on all his points, but seems to be too pro Israel. I don't believe his heart is in the wrong place, so maybe you could convince him to change his opinions with your arguments. It would be an interesting conversation to see.
So if you wonder what happened : "helicopter should normally should fly perpendicular to the ground when pilot enters the cloud has low visibility may slide to sides which cause it to lose control"
To Western powers this is all just different shades of terrorism.
Orientalism is a way of thinking and a body of knowledge produced by the West to define and dominate the East. With the tendency to generalise and homogenise the diverse cultures of the East, scholars, writers, and artists created a distorted image of the Orient as irrational, exotic, and inferior, ignoring their complexity and internal differences, which in turn justified colonial and imperialist ambitions.
How times have changed. Not really.
If people aren't incited to hateandfear others, they can't be sent to war by the elites.
Dear Mehdi first SALAM from Iran, this time he isn't very far from truth but the main issue is this guy is Regim's minion, whole funded by Regim and you can give your attention to Spacial Council to US President Robert Molly striped of his duties and sent to absence of leave indefinitely
I love Mr. Parsi's commentary.
wadr, Mehdi, I appreciate your enthusiasm, and that sometimes it causes you to speak over the interview-ee, interrupt, or hurry them, but also then I'm often finding I cannot hear what the interview-ee or you have said➡so I miss important parts. It works fine in your dialogue➡you both grasp what's been said, but having invited others to listen, listeners my not be able to follow along & I know that is the opposite of your intention🤪
How can be 42 percentage participation in the last election when in acuity of 20m population only 7% participated . The well accepted participated in the election was more than 10% nationally .
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Lamp shading conspiracies helps no one.
I am non Iranian. Who has 1 Iranian friend of the family. Amir invited my male cousin to his brother's wedding in Iran. My cousin asked me to go to the wedding with him. I was excited because Iran can be such a mystery.
Amir told me that it would not be a good experience for me. As a stranger in the land i will not be able to sit with him nor my cousin.
It was the 1st time i came to face that reality. I accept it but also realized there is no inclusion and Iran is ok with that.
Who is trita is he origanalv from iran
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0:42 that’s not true! Most people saw the video and thought why did it have to emergency-land in such a bad weather on the mountains?
It wasn't an accident; it was arrogance thinking they could safely fly through that kind of weather.
The Question is if that wasn't an accident who benefits the most from his death? Because that'll probably be who was behind the crash.
I think the same thing when it came to that Nordstream pipeline that blew up a few years ago... It was a Russian pipeline, who could have benefitted from it? Ya know?
Who benefits from all of this?
@@KyleRugglesUSA did the pipeline. Russophobia.
1. Trita Parsi calls the government and state in Iran a "regime"
If you look up the dictionary of the english word "regime" you will see that it is an authoritarian government. The Iranians rised up against the western ruled monarchy of Pahlavi dynasty to free themselves and decide their own fate. They were led by the most charismatic leadership in Ayatullah Khomeini. Ayatullah Khomeini combined the traditional Islamic state with modern populism government system. Iran is not a democracy acccording to modern western political system, but it is not a regime. Trita Parsi using that word is only echoing Fox News and other propaganda media that seek to depict the Iranian state and governments unpopular and authoritarian.
Iran has elections every four years for amongst other things the government (dowlat) - presidency - and the parliament (majles). Those in the government or parliament do either good or bad. None of them is perfect and it is very difficult to govern Iran because the enemies being Israel and USA since the 1979 revolution when Iran under the leadership of Ayatullah Khomeini took a pro-Palestine and anti.-Israel stance from day one.
2. Trita Parsi claiming that the martyred president had zero creativity and no mind of his own
Why? Because he has had the same opinions as the current leadership of Ayatullah Khamenei (differs from the founder Ayatullah Khomeini). So having the same opinions with the leader makes him "uncreative", "no mind of his own" and "empty vessel" while Bidens administration going to the same foreign policies as Trump had is not him or his administration being uncreative or not having a mind of their own, but it actually is their opinion and shows that Obama was "the aborration".
President Raisi actually did have a mind of his own and was extremely creative and active. He has worked tirelessly ever since he came to government, and has been the only president that has worked all 7 days of the week, meaning no resting. He has established a lot of unexpected relations worldwide through his intelligent ministers hard work, the respected foreign minister Amir-Abdollahian who was martyred with him in the helicopter. These two have fought for the rights of Palestine and the Palestinians and for economic stability and growth in Iran like no other administration ever before them.
Trita Parsi lives, like me, in the west and as an Iranian buisnessman in the West he is in love with the reformists in Iran and their candidate our former president Hasan Rouhani whose sole goal was to enhance the relations with western powers and make a lot of money for himself, his administration and Iranian buisnessmen in the West such as Trita Parsi himself. That's why he claims that Rouhani was creative and good while president Raisi who was the president of the Iranian workers and poor people, is called uncreative.
3. The Assembly of Experts
They have the authority to take away the leadership of the leader of Iran if they deem him uncapable of leading the country, and they also have the authority and duty to choose a leader after the current leader passes away.
What Trita Parsi says that "the conservatives" want a leader of Ayatullah Khamenei who is not supreme is just a load of crap. Because ofirst of all "the conservatives" is a political party in Iran for government in contrast to the reformists. The leaders, both Ayatullah Khomeini and Ayatullah Khamenei have been against the bipartisan system in Iran monkeying after the west and have always talked about the necessity that a presidential candidate himself has something to offer and not the wishes of a group but they have accepted that it turned out to be bipartisanship in Iranian presidential elections. So the conservatives have absolutely nothing to say about the leadership after Ayatullah Khamenei, that is the duty and authority of the Assembly of Experts. Secondly the word "supreme" is wrong in terms of the leadership of Iran as the Assembly of Experts can nullify his leadership and he is generally obligated to lead with conditions ruling over him which I won't go into here because I've already taken a lot of your time.
4. Ayatullah Khameneis son Mojtaba Khamenei as president?
This is just a rumour, the enemies of Iran have spread this rumour hundreds of times and they've spread a lot of other rumours like this one hundreds of times to be able to demonize and ruin the appearance of Iran infront of people who have no connection to Iran and no reliable source of knowledge.
In summary
Iran, like every country in the world, has it's own culture and norms. The sooner the people of the world realise and accept that international relations and cooperation does not mean to force every other people to submit to ones culture and norms the sooner the global community can reach out to each other and accept the differences of each other and attain actual global community where things like alcohol consumption and and public sexuality is permitted in some countries and forbidden in others (i.e west in contrast to Iran), and where people are allowed to raise their children however they want without government interference in some countries but not in other countries (i.e Iran in contrast to the west).
No, there were no accident to helicopter made it and the Iranian presented not?
Is that the Kenyan flag in the e background?
Tehran had 7% turnout…
This interview was a grave disappointment. I know that Mehdi is against the state and system in Iran but the lies are the disappointing thing.
1. How is it that senile genocide Biden doing all the things Trump did is a "proof" that Obama is the abnormal president while president Raisi is "uncreative" and an "empty vessel" for not having a different opinion to the leader?
2. Who has said that Raisi was a candidate, or you say the one intended, as successor for the leadership?
3. So there's a rumour that Seyyed Mojtaba is going to run for presidency? Well there's also a rumour that the world is governed by reptilian shapeshifters. Why take rumours serioisly at all?
4. Why is Irans government still called a "regime" and "theocracy while Israel, an apartheid state is not. The Iranians support their government. Why didn't you guys mention the never before seen attendance of millions of Iranians for the presidents funerals?
No coincidence
"Biden was selected by the big pharma and arms industry exactly because he doesn't have a mind of his own", now you tell me which makes more sense 😅
his comparisons regarding Biden versus trump near the end felt a bit sketchy!! certainly sounds like he intimated Trump would handle the crisis in the middle east better while claiming Obama's ME policy was an aberration didn't feel right to me!🤔🤨
Fog was on the ground,not at level of helicopters..how could two escorting helicopters be able to go over cloud,but president's helicopter went down instead it could a cyber attack which affected computers in president Helicopters
Thrump say why dont you do
Trita big hands
Professor marandi
Without the Azerbaijani help, this covert operation would not have been possible. Raisi is now swimming with the fishes…🐟 🐠 May his transition be in peace.
Agha mehdi this guy lost a court in US for being a behind the seen lobbies for the Mulahs in US .
dont attack the guy, prove his arguments wrong where/possible
I usually don’t reply to false names as you are . However , He has been a Mulahs lobby in USA for more than a decade and he was shamed in a US court and condemned .
What an stupid uttering. How successful was that Rohani who wanted to sell Iran back to West. And how successful was Raisi who was true to the revolution. That only shows how little you are willing to sell yourself Trita. Shame on you!
Mehdi I am a huge admirer of yours. I am afraid that this interview might be pointing towards you losing your critical edge. At the start of this dialogue your guest referred to Obama as the so called aberration. At the end of the interview he praised Obama for trying to do a deal with Iran during his second term. Its a shame that you did not pick him up on that. Also some astute Iran watchers points towards internal sabotage as a potential cause. With an accusatory finger pointing towards the Supreme Leader's son. Sharpen up or you become just another liberal intellectual belly aching about American foreign policy platforming guests who think like you - confirmation bias.
It’s not only Iranians. I’m Latinx and I’m disgusted by the two-party system in the US. We’ve got to vote differently this time around. Vote Jill Stein 2024 🙏🏼
Latinx?
Mahsa Amini, you are always remembered. RIP.
agreed Biden not gonna have the second term you have to get out of the office because he has not done anything good but ??
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Mehdi, you still need to apologize unequivocally and publicly for your unfounded, defaming accusations of Jeremey Corbin of antisemitism. That self-serving, opportunistic act of yours is unforgettable and unforgivable.
You can tell this is one is the American pipet
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Ok
It sounds like Iranians and Americans have much in common viz a viz democracy, suppression, oppression, contempt for government... and... and... and
Except it is the intelligence spinning web before an attempt for a big change there. Eran has been under attack internally since 53 via intelligence.