You Should Watch Buffy Season 6
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0:00 Intro
3:34 Here's what you missed on glee
21:12 Season 6
36:47 Drugs is magic
42:05 Season 6 is kinda weird about gender
58:37 Season 6 is soooooo good though
1:11:37 The Trio and nerd misogyny
1:20:25 Season 6 and tone
1:27:10 TL;DW - บันเทิง
One comment I've seen pop up a couple times that I wanted to address is "wait, I think you're wrong about the Spike soul thing- he was trying to get the chip out of his head, not get his soul back." This is incorrect actually!! The writers and showrunners have confirmed multiple times in interviews throughout the years that Spike always intended to get his soul back- the ambiguous language in that episode about what Spike was trying to do was solely intended to be a fakeout for the audience so the soul reveal would be a surprise, not Spike trying to get the chip out.
Here's a panel interview with Joss Whedon where he confirms this about 24 minutes in: th-cam.com/video/FSLpbNkG8GQ/w-d-xo.html
Jane Espenson also confirms it in this radio interview: archive.org/details/SuccubusClub/SuccubusClub_020522_JaneEspenson+-+Two+To+Go+%26+Grave.mp3 "Spike looked into his soul at that moment, and saw the demon in him, and that's what made him want to go get a soul .... We did a big ole mislead on you all, where we wanted you to think he gonna go get the chip out. We knew, the whole time, from the very beginning he was gonna go get a soul. And when he says I want Buffy to have what she deserves, he means a lover with a soul."
Even if you're not a big fan of authorial intent (neither am I) Spike confirms this himself in his monologue on the cross in Season 7, as well as multiple times in S7 and on Angel:
"But me, I fought for my soul. Went through the demon trials. Almost did me in a dozen times over, but I kept fighting, because I knew it was the right thing to do."
"I did this for you. The soul, the changes-it's what you wanted."
So yes- Spike got his soul back on purpose. The audience thinking he was trying to get his chip back was just supposed to be a fakeout/twist! :)
In the episode where Buffy's invisible, Spike directly says he doesn't want to do it with her right now - and asks her to leave..... and she starts going down on him anyway. It was played for laughs so most people don't even pause for a second to realize it was wrong...... They both constantly tell each other "no" and then give in, beat each other, hurt eachother in ways they enjoy and ways they don't. Buffy spent the last year telling him he was disgusting and a thing and then using him.... the bathroom scene in Seeing Red is not easy to watch but completely makes sense. i
agree with the point that the show should have factored it into Buffy's journey more.
Ugh... that makes it so much worse. Because it... makes less sense if Spike is supposed to be ontologically evil. I always thought that he had gone to purge himself of his love/obsession with Buffy, not out of guilt but out of self-disgust. Because that's the evil choice, right? The quick and easy solution. He seemed so shocked when he got his soul back.
I get how the soul could have been a motivation, but not because it was the right thing to do (as he later stated). It would have worked from a perspective of pure, selfish jealousy (if I get a soul like Angel then she will finally love me), but as you said... it wasn't that.
I remember his soul-quest. I had no idea there was any doubt. I mean, if he was just removing a chip (that, by then, I think the battery was dead anyway) he'd be battling an HMO, not demonic guardians. (I know, obvious joke there.)
@@SparkleDragon547 I agree with what Sarah said about this - this would have been a great moment to dive into the whole "soul" thing, because it doesn't make sense. I I do believe Spike wanted to get his soul because it was the right thing to do AND because he thought it was what Buffy wanted. But then, as you say, he can't be this evil thing even whithout a soul. So why does no one asks themselves what having a soul even means? Is it the same thing to be literally cursed with a soul and to decide to, for all intents and purposes, curse oneself with one? Angel never wanted a sould, Spike did. Why is that never a factor?
like your videos Sarah but season 6 is awful and painful to watch
"Buffy would be all over Edward Cullen's hot Mormon ass"
JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING IS TRUE DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO SAY IT OUT LOUD, SARAH
I'm guessing lots of people have forgotten/never seen the video someone put together in the early TH-cam days that has Buffy staking Edward for being a stalky, creepy freak?
@@mariaaguadoball3407 That's actually Pop Culture Detective. These days he makes video essays on men and masculinity in media analyzed through a feminist lense.
Riley is Jacob, the possessive non-vampire we're supposed to like. Though given who Xander dates in the comics, he's also Jacob.
@RubyNemesis we're supposed to like Riley? Yeesh.
@@ejmcguinness6875 I really don't get the Riley hate. Yes, he was a little bland, but that was the whole point: after Angel, Buffy thought that normality would be her ideal. It wasn't, but that wasn't Riley's fault. Also, he may not have been perfect, but then again, no one is. He just wasn't the right match for her, but it's not like he was horrible.
What I love about Anya is that she's set up as someone who's autistic coded because she's a demon fish-out-of-water only for flashbacks to show she was exactly like that back before she was a demon
That reminds me of a story I read where the MC is born a biological male in their first life, but is obviously trans. She’s then reborn into the body of a woman, and it’s later revealed that she was biologically female as well in a life before either of these. She asks the god telling her this if that’s why she never felt comfortable as a man, but the god just goes, “Nope, you were just trans”.
@@mabusestestamentI'm going to go out on a limb and guess your only basis for that is "this character does things I don't like and consider Not Normal so they're a bad person", like 99.999% of the internet."
@@mabusestestament Is that supposed to be a Sherlock joke?
@@mabusestestament Seeing as you haven't actually described any way in which those labels apply in an accurate medical sense, and instead just went "nuh-uh" with a condescending emoji, I'd say I was right on target.
Care to actually make a case?
@@mabusestestament In that case, it's safe to assume you're just making things up then. Got it!
I always found the idea of resurrecting the hero from the dead only for them to be traumatized from being ripped out of heaven was a ballsy move.
Yh... we had this great endimg for our hero and guess watch the next seasons big bad if basically real life and depression that comes from it...
So anyway they made season 6 and 7 but probably should done 8 😅
Describing Spike as a "mean girl frenemy" is hilariously accurate
I hate that they turned him into one of the desperate houswives. They had such a good character with him. But the writers went "MOoooOOm can we have Angel and Cordelia" and then joss went "No, we have Angel and Cordelia at home." Don't even get me started on the bullshit they pulled in the final season of Angel. Spike should have remained a villian and taken out somewhere in season 3. For good.
@@avesatanae nah spikes character arc was good.
@avesatanae wow I so fundamentally disagree with this, Spike's transition from intimidating villain to pathetic wet cat and the bitchy friend who keeps hanging around the friend group against everyone's will is my absolute favourite part of Buffy
@@frabjuosity "Out for a walk... bitch" - immortal line 🙂
@@avesatanae The fact that you're the only person I've ever heard or read express that opinion (out of thousands) erases all doubt that you liked your own comment. And that's funny.
I do like how both lead characters were brought out of their evil/sadness by platonic love.
YES! I'm not even a Buffy fan (never watched it) and as an aro/ace person that really spoke to me. I have a hard time connecting with plots about romantic love, but platonic love? Sign me up!!
Buffy ran so Frozen could fly 🫡
the end of season 6 is literally like the only scene where I can even remotely tolerate Xander in 7 seasons 😅
Right??? Like Xander was the perfect character to save Willow... This god like character at that point who was hurting and scared and everything felt unstable being saved by Xander... The one person in the show who was mundane, boring, and incredibly stable. Xander's "I love you" scene with Willow, where he meant nothing else ... No romance, no sex, no relationships just a friend who loves his friend and wants her to be happy was peak masculine representation. Ignoring Xander's more pernicious behavior
@@Silvermoon424 If you've never seen the show, why did you watch a feature-length analysis of its penultimate season?
I think its interesting too how Warren plays into all this. That the idea of this season with an overarching message of "human connections and compassion can carry us through even the darkest moments of our adult lives" has its main catalyst, (and the one person who hurt buffy and her friends more than any other supernatural being ever could) as this incel with a gun who constantly rebukes human connection (treating Andrew and Jonathan like garbage) who sees women as things to own, rejects adulthood, and cannot comprehend empathizing with others.
YESSSS exactly!!!!! Such a good point
Well put, and why I consider Warren to be the embodiment of human depravity at its worst. Excellently played by Adam Busch, he's the ransomware hacker, the porn mogul, the money launderer, the arms dealer, ...and the kid next door.
The trio are such good foils to Buffy's Scooby gang in that they are also a group of friends who all have issues, but instead of finding strength in each other and growing better they exacerbate each other's worst tendencies and grow worse
@joli7948season 5. When Buffy finds out about Joyce's brain tumor, Riley gets all weepy man baby about how Buffy is focused on her mom and not leaning on him. It's super gross.
I liked watching those 3 slowly develop and go from the background to the front.
It also explored how people may find themselves choosing violence and extremism
This video culminates the arc where Sarah becomes overwhelmed by the power of her tea, spilling it everywhere. The tea is, of course, a metaphor for drugs.
So in earlier video "Tea is Gay" and now Tea is Drugs??? Just like season 6
Great now I can excuse all my terrible driving on being that I was just high on tea that I got from the tea dealer in the tea den.
i thought tea was gay?
This is just like the Opium wars
“Meeting your first goth lesbian” while showing Faith made me cackle out loud I love this
Willow trying to end the world after her first lesbian break-up is too relatable.
Was me too, then I realized I'm trans lmao
It wasn't her first lesbian break up that did it. It was having the love of her life shot dead in front of her.
Are you implying that women are so bad that knowing she would eventually have to get into a relationship with another woman she instead chose to nuke the world? Because damn Become a non religious nun or something.
666th upvote!!!!!!
Girl, I know you're joking but you sound like Billy Loomis. Her ex wasn't walking around like nothing, she was six feet under
"oh, and Buffy falls in love with some cardboard" made me genuinely spit out my drink.
I remember Dawn, but what I think we really need to explore is if - perhaps - there's some minor, tenuous connection between Ben and Glory.
Wait, are you saying there's some kind of link between Ben and Glory?
@@heather9857is everyone here very stoned?
@@heather9857
I mean, I don't want to jump to conclusions. It's probably nothing.
... like maybe he's subletting from her?
Fire bad, Tree Pretty
The only critique I have of this video is that there is not ONE Clem mention. Truly unconscionable
I was feeling the same way!! Also Clem is an interesting counterpoint to the demon=bad & soul=good issue with Spike - Clem eats kittens, but he's KIND and consistently compassionate and emotionally intelligent. Very.... human. Definitely not a demon that could be killed without emotional impact.
Sweet Clem, so overlooked. I agree with the other comment as well; he is a good contrast to all the other demons on the show. We finally get a good demon on Buffy.
@@PensiveWhiskers Besides Whistler and Giles's friend who pretended to steal Angel's soul
@@EilidhKH93 i wonder if he was one of the demons who started out as human
I don't think it's fair for you all to be calling Clem a demon just cause he has a skin condition.
Season 6, I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry that nobody gets you the way you deserve
I remember being so confused by the sudden change in tone especially the Spike romance....but I was an ethnic science dork trying to get through year 10, kinda living the social vibes vicariously through the show...literally took until the whole video-essay scene now to understand what they were actually talking about emotionally speaking.
Season 6 is my favorite:) which is surprising, I'm not a big drama fan ( *fans dramatically* ) but the pathos in this one works on me, maybe because I genuinely care for the characters and mostly because it's done in a genuine and messy way we don't often see in media. I would have hated it had I grown up with it
I have always LOVED season six. It was so good. I get why people didn't like it, but as not out at the time trans woman when I saw it as a teen, it resonated in me in a lot of ways.
i really like 5-7
Except for Sarah lol
"Oh and Buffy falls in love with some cardboard." if I tell you how long I laughed for... it's embarrassing 😂
I love randomly seeing an unrelated youtuber I like in the comments.
Do you mean that laughing at that line was embarrassing you you, or that falling in love with human cardboard was embarrassing for Buffy?
Yes! Honestly, the most perfect succinct description of Riley I’ve ever encountered, and I love it. Had to pause the video for some lengthy hilarity myself 😆
Riley is so much cardboard that I couldn't even picture him when she first said that - it took several minutes to even come up with the name 'Riley'
He really is such absolute cardboard. Even when I was very young watching the episode where Riley leaves, I knew Xander was in the wrong there.
spike being the mean girl replacement is SO funny
He has that combination of perceptiveness and sarcasm.
"Do not look up who Xander dates in the comics."
I genuinely thought to myself, "what's the worst possible answer to this question?" and I was entirely correct.
I hate it.
And the fact that Xander is Whedon's self-insert character and that he was forbidden to be alone with Michelle Trachtenberg (Dawn) makes this even worse 🤢
@@teawithleia 😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖
Same! Never seen Buffy, only online coverage, but the way Sarah said it told us everything we needed to know :(
Dawn also gets turned into a giant and Zander blames it on dawn sleeping with someone who wasn’t him before they started dating 💀
I had no clue, and just based on a pure guess, I thought it was Dawn
describing spike as a little british worm is the best thing i’ve heard in a while
I absolutely adore the "Buffy remembers heaven" concept as a metaphor, her description of a mundane world being bright and harsh really speaks to me as a fellow sufferer of depression.
oh I hadn't even clued into that metaphor and now I'm 😭 that's so well done
Honestly for me, my depression hit in the opposite way. It feels like someone dialed the saturation of the world down, and I just want it to be colorful again. It's gray and dull and hopeless. Even the brightest colored things look like I'm seeing them through a fog of gray. I just want the world to be colorful again.
For me, it's more my anxiety that makes the world seem too bright and too harsh, constantly having to deal with fears and unpleasantness when I just want to hide under a blanket. It's like the mental health version of my autism-related hypersensitivities.
The scenes after Buffy is resurrected are still so vivid in my mind even though I haven't seen that episode since it first premiered on TV. It's actually kind of impressive.
The scene was sooooo good, it's such a good idea executed perfectly of her friends being her greatest detriment spiritually
When in deep depression I love singing all the parts for Walk Through the Fire. It feels fiercely therapeutic. ✌🖖
Mark your calendars everyone, for the first time ever Sarah was so passionate abt a topic that she had to Put Down her cup to prevent herself from spilling it
I thought that was part of her hand
I always always thought the show should have killed off Xander instead of Tara. Not because I hate Xander (though I'm critical of how he's often written). But because his death would have hit so much harder. He'd been a main character since the first season, and his death would effect *everyone* going forward. It would have given Anya's character more to do as well, given her opportunity to be more than Xander's girlfriend. Even Buffy's arc could have tied into Willow's with her (maybe even her and Dawn) being the one to convince Willow that life and living are worth it.
It would definitely have been a better choice if they thought they needed to kill one of the Scoobies.
Interesting idea. Would have avoided the bury the gays trope, been more impactful and Willow might have still gone haywire cause that was her best friend. And Tara could have saved the day similarly to how Xander did which is more than she ever got to do.
Ohh, that is a really good point!!! That would've been the best way to bring out Evil Willow, and then Tara could save the world instead through the power of gay love. If J*ss Wh*don hadn't written him as such a self-insert, he still could've scratched his "kill a main character" itch in a much more satisfying and intriguing way
@@tinypinkturtles5943 I also think it would have also helped hammer home the importance of Xander for the Scoobies and also Willow personally, him being not only her best friend but practically having been the platonic ideal of a soulmate, with everything they went through together and the connection they fostered since their childhood. It also would have been a nice touch for the theme of the season, human connections, and subverting the trope of depicting romantic love as the be all end all of love.
Sarah: Do not look up who Xander dates in the comics.
Me: *Immediately Googles who Xander dates in the comics*
Also me, in the fetal position under my desk: I should have listened to Sarah.
Yeah... I bought those comics when they were published... And I only managed to read them through once 😐
Who?
@@anjetto1the other summers ......
@@Monichanz DAWN??!!?
(im in the middle of s6 rn)
This comment needs to be pinned. For everyone's sake.
That "bitch" in out for a walk was so genuinely funny that I might finally watch the show lol
When it's good it's good.
@@LimeyLassen
It's a pity people have decided they don't like Joss' zingy style of dialogue.
I've always enjoyed it.
When everything's a zinger, nothing is. @@alanpennie8013
@alanpennie8013 idk if its that it's necessarily bad, but over a decade of overexposure to it and stuff like Marvel (also influenced by Whedon for obvious reasons) has probably wore patience thin on it. It'll probably end up coming back into the mainstream sooner or later
@@commentmanwhoeatsgahbage3022
I agree.
"The Body" is the BEST episode in the entirety of the show. Anya's monologue gets me every time, the consequences and feelings are allowed to breath, the lack of music is so stark compared to any other show that needs to put ~sad pinky music to make you feel sad pinky feelings~. The episode feels like grief itself. It's a masterclass.
Even the the vampire near the end was like "oh right, and that shit still exists" with Buffy having to deal with it in an eerily quiet, almost realistic soundscape while her mother's body sits on a table nearby and her baby sister struggles to accept the reality of losing her parent. Instead of feeling weird and out of place it just adds to the feeling of unrelenting reality somehow. Like, no, even now, the rest of the world's problems won't leave you alone
@@katharineeavan9705 The vampire actually ruined the episode for me. It took me out of the show because it made me think there was either a contract that stated they had to include a fight in every episode, or they just didn't think the audience could go one episode without one.
I found my father dead when I was eight years old, and never would have thought that the only piece of media in the entire world that can evoke what it felt like would be called Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
@@katharineeavan9705to me I interpret the vampire/zombie as a metaphor, and never actually appeared in that scene. I guess as the beginning of the episode showed an unreliable narrator incident I figured it was happening here too. And the zombie was a representation of the shock of seeing the body manifested, and especially how it died from a slice to the throat and dissipated like a vampire
Completely agree about Xander’s speech regarding Riley. I strongly dislike that speech and the way it framed Buffy in the wrong. Riley did it to himself. He just couldn’t accept Buffy for who she is.
I was glad he was gone.
Riley sucked!
i watched buffy over and over as a teen but holy moly does Normal Again make me cry so much as an adult. as a depressed young woman, that desire for life-as-is to be fake and something to just be wrong with you is so poignant. the whole “i came back wrong” concept in general is heartbreaking and real as hell after trauma
also, the trio and spuffy are god tier and i will not hear any dissent. jonathan is a brilliant character and the dynamics of the trio are sooo fascinating for villains. i’m obsessed
Me too!
Season six being painful and depressing IS EXACTLY THE POINT OF THE SEASON! Buffy is using Spike as self harm because she hates being alive but has so many responsibilities and nobody to take her place, Spike is yearning for Buffy and understands that she using him and is *letting her*, Xander is having an existential crisis, Dawn doesn’t have adult guidance when she needs it the most, she and Buffy are still grieving over Joyce, Willow went through severe magic addiction, Tara is remarkably the most responsible one and that ends abruptly, Anya is coping with things the only way she knows how: obsession and seeks comfort wherever she can because emotions are hard. They’re all (except Spike) human and they’re going through various stages of grief AT THE SAME TIME. Season 6 is really cathartic for me for many many reasons.
Yeah, people mix up "sad" and "hard to watch" with "bad writing".
Season 7 is worse writing-wise, season 6 is one of better seasons of Buffy, it makes sense, deals with consequnces, doesn't jump, has internal character progression.
It’s the long running consequence of their lives in a sense. It had a lot to recover from the previous season and it actually does a great job of exploring the consequences of the lives they’ve lived up to this point. Previously, while the story was difficult at points, it was almost frivolous at points, still cheerful in spite of its dark premise and concepts, and S6 does a great job at showing both the struggles and the recovery from those struggles. Actually a low key favourite of mine.
'Buffy has to deal with the harsh reality of being alive"
me too buffy, me too
The way Spike grieved for Joyce 😭 Honestly a truly amazing episode.
his friendship with joyce legit made me ok with her character. otherwise, she’s a mess lol
@@agraham9099
She said unkind things about Giles, so she's definitely going to hell.
The part with Anya was what really got me. They perceive her as just being insensitive, but then when she has that little speech in response about how she doesn't understand. I felt chills.
Huh, what episode?
@@bernardsoul5186 It must be "Forever", 5x17, the episode right after "The Body".
As someone with chronic depression (for 20+ years), Buffy is the only depiction of depression on TV I have EVER related to. Season 6 is very, very close to my heart because of that. I love season 6.
Yup, it was my least favorite season for a while because it nailed depression.... too well. It was the only show that I had seen accomplish that. And my first time watching I went: depression is free in this world, so how dare you make it real in this little escapist pocket of my reality. Like i was happy it was being portrayed to those without depression because... *the more you know*. But without knowing the plot does have that optimistic, everyone can be reached by their connections to others, the slog of watching someone else go through a very accurate depression is not great. So when I rewatched it, it became my favorite season, but only because... it was a rewatch.
When depressed I sing Walk Through the Fire, as many different parts as possible. It's fiercely therapeutic.
I'm a little in awe how vividly and specifically the Trio predicted the exact trajectory of Joss Whedon as a person and a part of me wonders what that female writer had to endure from him while crafting these storylines
Like I always told my daughter growing up: never trust a man who calls himself a "feminist."
@@j.w.m.415never trust a man until he’s proven himself trustworthy *
Like any man at all 🤣
@@j.w.m.415 I get some of where you're coming from, but it seems to me that it's not men who say they're feminists that are the ones you should worry about but specifically those that don't back it up with action. It's the same with any label you can throw out there.
@@j.w.m.415 Don’t trust men. Men identifying as feminists are less likely to be an issue but they’re still men. Men who don’t support feminism _definitely_ shouldn’t be trusted.
My ex-wife and I shared Buffy together.
It became important to us both, to the point we named our daughter Willow.
Our separation has been acrimonious, and I'd had difficulty feeling anything but anger and resentment.
Thank you for reminding of some of the joy we shared.
Sarah being dressed as Buffy in the musical episode is just chefs kiss
The horror of recognizing that Xander not only got with Dawn in the comics is trumped only by the fact that Buffy was finally interested in getting with him before she discovered that her longtime friend had gotten with her little sister.
Xander as Joss Whedon's self-insert indeed.
When I saw Joss Whedon live....in a different life where I would pay lots of money to see him talk, he actually said that Xander was not the character he related to the most. At the time I believed him. I don't now.
I knew it. She said don’t look it up, and I didn’t, but I just knew in my soul who it was…
@@ZoeAlleyne To be fair. . . you are by no means alone on not seeing it before it was in front of our faces.
why are people blaming whedon for this? big part of comics were written by someone else too.
@alanscott6005 Whedon was the lead writer for nearly half of the Season Eight series where the Dawn/Xander/Buffy romance saga ran and was the executive producer throughout. There might have been some other hands in the pot but they were only in there if Whedon said so.
"if you're going to tell me to smile, I need to know you see me first" resonated so hard. What a line.
Not me repeating throughout this video "people didn't like season six?' Maybe I didn't socialize enough with the Buffy crowd to know that. This was literally the season that saved my life and probably the lives of a bunch of people. And you break down the exact reasons why. Loves this!
I think its reputation has improved as we get more of an understanding of clinical depression. A lot of fans at the time hated how mopey Buffy was, but now there's a lot more empathy for her plight and, if anything, modern fans tend to hate her friends this season far more for how badly they fail to support her.
@@Talisguywhich is so weird cause she's frankly chipper for someone who has been through/is going through what she's dealing with.
'In about 20 minutes Riley is going to disappear'
'Oh no....can we make it 10 minutes?'
"stiff Mormon ass and weep for ten years"
Use of "Stacey's Dad"
Correct opinion of Giles.
6 minutes in and this is already gold standard Sarah Z.
And I don't even like the show that much!
Kudos!
for a minute i thought you were gonna defend season 4 and i was so confused but this makes way more sense thank you
Right? You see the title and are like "Okay it has like two great episodes, but S4 is trash"
Right? You see the title and are like "Okay it has like two great episodes, but S4 is trash"
Season 4 is rough because it transitioning... I do find it one of the funnier seasons despite its faults
I do really like season 4 even though nothing happens and adam is dumb and it's a shame the scientist lady actress didn't want to stay for the whole season but her coming back for the "finale" (penultimate) s4 episode was great , I will say season 6 while i love it is too edgy for its own good and this is the exact time when joss whedon started trying to ruin spike and Cordelia over their actress and spike being the literal example of who she needs to not be with , even before the SA , since the second he decides he wants her hes a total creep who will insult and manipulate any friend or relationship she has and be all sad about how he's a small bean who just needs a kiss , hes sadder than most incels I know and I like spike BTW
Warren to me was one of the most insidious villains 🙌🏻 he actually chilled me in a way the mayor or the master or even glory just didn’t. The gut churn of Johnathan realising he’s actually evil is so damn sad
It's easy when you see vampires kill it's different when it's a human.
This. I’ve never loathed a character more than I loathe Warren. So then how weird is it that the actor dated amber benson irl?!
@@oliasherlygina8681 I get that. I think about the difference between jofferey and his actor
We know there are a lot of Warrens out there.
@@oliasherlygina8681 Wait, they what?
Well of course you’re gonna say that Anthony Stewart Head’s character is the sexiest, we put some respect on the Repo Man’s name around here lmao
Weirdly enough, I think Season 6 would be less controversial if Season 7 had better payoffs for it.
Like if Willow found love that wasn’t as annoying as Kennedy. Maybe if Buffy found some level of happiness and confidence post-Season 6 after being so depressed in the previous season. Or if Anya didn’t die in the finale after being put through the wringer in season 6. Or if Xander just…well, not much you can do there.
You know what, you are very right! It’s the principle that we would feel that everything in season 6 would’ve been worth it, if what happened after was a fitting redemption. And it wasn’t. Honestly, season 7 felt sooo bleak, I don’t even watch any of the episodes. Season 7 should’ve had a light hearted, quirky tone (mixed with seriousness of course) so that we could work through the heaviness of season 6
Thanks the gods someone else hates Kennedy.
@@PortiaDDoesStyle Season 7 was both way too ambitious (in terms of the plot that they tried to pack into the 2nd half of the season) and not nearly ambitious enough (in terms of having any payoff for or even having the characters really deal with what had happened in season 6).
EXACTLY
My gripe with season 7 is it went from a single Uber-Vamp taking on Buffy to a toddler with a spoon being able to fight multiple ones with impunity.
As a big fan of Buffy, I actually had no idea there was controversy over season 6 plot lol. I really enjoyed season 6, particularly dealing with all the grey areas that exist in real life. I loved how it's completely assumed that reviving buffy was a good thing initially and then revealed she actually didn't want to be revived, she was happy and at peace and was torn back into this nightmare world.
that scene, buffys song in once again with feeling still hits me in the guts even just thinking about it. the dissonant notes of buffys melodie, even the memory sents chills down my spine.
My favorite part about willows drug arc is that the drug dealers name is Rack. She’s literally going to a Rack house 😭
Season 6 is amazing, it perfectly sums up the transition we all go thru from wide-eyed ‘the world is my oyster and I can do anything’ of being a teen to ‘omg life sucks, being an adult is hard and I hate it.’
Something that really can be helped by a video club among friends.
The problem I had with season 6 is that a lot of people were living in her house but all made her, newly resurrected to get a job to pay for everything. I actually got off the Xander and Willow train in season 3. When Buffy came back to town after a very bad incident and taking some time off, and they are pile on her with no compassion at all.
I also hated this, but don’t think it was a problem with the season. It’s actually a good commentary on how Buffy’s friends don’t recognize how what they’ve done hurt her. And because of this, they keep trying to have her live life as normal. She’s turned into the Reliable Stable Friend. You know the one, the one who everyone just knows will be there for everyone. It’s natural to just keep piling stuff onto this person, who isn’t the kind to object. Especially with Giles gone, who used to be the one Buffy could go to.
Because Buffy’s friends think everything is OK, and Buffy is working so hard to not tell them it isn’t, they just don’t take the small signs she does send off as serious and keep asking her to go back to normal. And she obliges because she does NOT want to break that illusion. The Reliable Stable Friend does not do that.
It’s what makes her turn to Spike believable. She can’t confide in her friends without breaking their hearts, she doesn’t have Giles (who both wouldn’t have gone along with this and who she has a mentor relationship with that allowed her to go to with problems like this before) so she confides in the outsider on the periphery of the group. This brings its own problems in her life related to the kind of character Spike is then, but man, I get why she talked to him. She needed to go to SOMEONE, he was around, and he has some understanding of supernatural stuff that a rando wouldn’t.
That's one of the major points. It basically just showed the scoobies not backing her up at all. Even Anthony Stewart head decided to take a break because they failed to give him good stories outside of buffy. They really did the side cast bad
Yeah one of my biggest issues with the show (not just season 6, all of it) is how Joss Whedon always used the supporting cast to 'punish' Buffy. He used her suffering as a tool of his bad moral messaging, and it made all of her friends come across as awful people. I found it hard to like any of them. Honestly Cordelia and Oz come across as better friends to her than Willow and Xander.
I genuinely don't understand how you could possibly have enjoyed watching seasons 4-7 if you didn't like Willow and Xander after season 3. They're two of the show's main characters. That's like saying "ever since I was a little kid, I've always loved Snickers. Recently though, I stopped liking the nougat and peanut elements of the bar. I still eat Snickers all the time though." Seems odd to me.
@@hannahbun again, as with the OP of this thread, I don't understand how you could possibly enjoy watching the show if this is your actual, unironic opinion. The friendship dynamic between Buffy, Xander and Willow is one of the biggest elements of the show. How do you watch 144 episodes of a show while simultaneously thinking that a whole bunch of main characters are unlikeable "awful people" and actively thinking that a core element of the show (the rapport between Buffy, Xander and Willow) doesn't work? Surely if you genuinely believe that, then it's such a fundamental failing that you would have considered it a dealbreaker and stopped watching? To me, my enjoyment of the show was *predicated* on the relationships between the characters, and in particular, the friendship between the core three.
I was deeply depressed when I first watched season 6 and that entire season spoke to my soul. I felt seen during a time when I felt no one understood me. Buffy telling Spike about how she was happy in heaven and how being back felt like she was in hell was so deeply relatable.
Me too! This season made me feel seen and the pain in it was very cathartic for me
I remember really liking this season. Tara's death, evil Willow, and the "Bored now. " scene have stuck in my head for YEARS now.
Spike and Buffy were toxic fun. Was this the season where Spike and Dawn also bonded a bit, or was that the next one? Their sibling level interactions were also a lot of fun to watch.
The musical episode was AMAZING. "They got the mustard OOoooooouuuuuut!"
Referring to an honest to god flaying as a "squishy yoink" is certainly a mood 😅
Gotta say, the thought of watching the death of Joyce again as an adult with both my parents gone is devastating. You did remind me though of how mundane most of dealing with a parent's death is. I found comfort and humour in the average things like signing paperwork and collecting ashes and just, keeping them in a cupboard until they were able to be interred.
I’m a season six apologist. I actually really like it.
Same. When it aired I found it very challenging and I didn't quite appreciate it as much as I did in my 20s. It really made me think.
It's a great season, one of my favorites It's news to me that it's the most hated.
i agree :)
Honestly season 6 is my favourite season
i was honestly surprised that season six was so maligned by the fans. i was an obsessed buffy fan when i was younger; my best friend in grade 7 introduced me to the series and i ended up burning through seasons one to three because she had the DVD box set! and then i just... never finished it? cut to over a decade later and i decided "hey lets finally wrap buffy up!" and all i remember from that rewatch was how viscerally angry i was at practically everyone in buffy's life (hot take but i'd like very much to throw hands at the scooby gang, specifically xander and willow), and ended up tapping out after season four.
AND THEN covid hit us all hard, and during lockdown i sat and watched the whole series from start to end, this time with my partner in tow since he'd only ever caught a handful of random episodes when it was still airing. season six was and is hands down my favourite of the series! perhaps this is another hot take, but it's been my experience that those who watched buffy FOR buffy generally share the sentiment that season six is the best out of the series.
watching that season felt so fucking vindicating. it was raw and real and visceral in a way that finally allowed buffy to grieve and wallow. she was allowed to be angry, to lash out, to spiral, to let everyone down. watching the whole series back to back really demonstrates just how taken for granted buffy is, how little grace she's afford by basically everyone in her life at one point or another. she's viewed as little more than a hot action heroine by those who are fortunate enough to know her slayer origins (especially by her so-called "friends" which is heartbreaking and rage-inducing imo) which is why i think she self-harms by hopping into a toxic and violent relationship with spike, somebody who i personally revile despite the popular fandom vote. my seething dislike of his character aside, he's one of the few who see buffy as more than just a slayer, so it's easy to understand how she finds herself drawn to him.
i love buffy the show, but i love buffy the character so much more. it's upsetting to know that she's stuck in source material that hardly appreciates her, and she will always deserve better than what she got. (including some of her "fans"!)
"Season 6 is bad because everyone is bad and depressed" is such a weird take for me. That's what makes it good! Buffy's done with high school, now she's out in the real world. To me this was the absolute best way to continue the series after the big blowout finale with Glory.
I mean… Buffy's always been about growing up, yes? Becoming a person? The struggles of life, thinly disguised as various supernatural threats? The Master was a comic book villain, and that's how "evil" is conceptualized when you're young. You think of someone bad and you think Skeletor. As the show progresses, the Big Bads become increasingly symbolic of real-world struggles and the seasons themselves continue to fit Buffy's age. While she's in high school, villains are monstrous but still handle-able. The struggles that are personified by the villains are, from a grown-up perspective, small. The first bad boyfriend, for example.
Seasons 4 and 5 are growing pains - that time between high school and adult life when there's still a basic sense of security and structure but things are beginning to loosen up and become more "adult". Buffy starts to battle depression and the weight of expectation etc, life hits her pretty hard.
And season 6 is pretty much Buffy having "crashed" - flunked out of collegem, had a nervous breakdown, gone away for a while, nand then faced with trying to survive a world that seems hellish - adulthood without safety nets. It's absolutely perfect that the nerds with their fantastic contraptions and antics are the enemies - they represent the "silly", small-time struggles she had in high school, and in a way they also symbolize not being able to let go of that childish time and grow up. The real Big Bad of the season is, as many others have said, Life.
This is what makes it a great season for me. It's the logical continuation of Buffy growing up and her enemies and struggles changing with her.
Watching season 6 for the first time in high school was such a slog. But the rewatch I did in college, where I realized I had spent the last year unconsciously mirroring Buffy's own plotline, was cathartic beyond belief. It helped me finally put words and reasoning to what I was feeling, and because of that it was instrumental to snapping me out of those self-destructive behaviors and seeing a way forward.
Yeah it was still painful to watch, but that was exactly what made it work.
It was a depressing season but felt very true.
I love season 6, it’s my favourite.
I used to hate Dawn when I was younger but appreciate her more and more through rewatches. She’s a child, and should be treated with compassion because we were all arseholes when we were 14-15. Adults watch this show through an adult lens and expect Dawn to behave like an adult rather than like a traumatised child, and are surprised when she appears immature. We’d all be immature under the circumstances, and every teenager ever thought they were far more grown up than they really were.
Yeah... to bad that I only watched first 2 seasons when I was 13 yo. Local TV station didn't bother to buy next seasons and I forgot about the show for more than 20 years. I envy those who were able to watch this series in its entirety when they were growing up. Furthermore, I feel that series 6 did not do justice to Dawn's character. She was hugging a robot imitating her sister, trying to connect. How sad is that?
Yeah, I honestly have come to really like Dawn in my recent rewatch for the same reason. She really does feel like a real teenager, and sometimes it's important to remember that teenagers are just kids.
Dude when Anya told off Xander about him scolding her for being with spike, telling him its SOLACE for what he did to her... I damn near screamed in joy because at that point I was so sick and tired of Xander and his BS throughout the show
Anya was my MVP for the season. There was a judgy prudish streak running through the rest of the Scoobies that I couldn't respond to, even if I did get where a lot of it came from.
The fact people still support Anya over Xander after the wedding is one of the most disappointing things about the buffy fandom. He was spooked to high heaven right before the wedding. He needed a minute. He even tries to get back with her. But the fans male hate was so apparent this season
@@snappapop3277 And here we have snappapop3277 the incel, his chubby cheeks still streaked with tears. How dare a story have a MAN(!) not get what he wants a single time. This should be illegal, snappapop3277 cries, shrieking impotently.
Alas, nobody cares, and his whimpering fades into the night.
@@snappapop3277 You're probably a troll not worth responding to, but who the hell would want to get back with someone who left them at the altar. There are a million ways to avoid putting someone in that humiliating situation, and so him "trying to get back with her" after breaking her heart doesn't matter. Of course she wouldn't want to, of course it would be hard for her to trust him again. His actions followed for his character and I did feel a bit bad for him because this is one of the things he did that was rooted in a very relatable fear rather than his usual entitlement, but that doesn't mean those actions weren't wrong or that this earns him anyone's forgiveness, and it doesn't remotely excuse his horrible behavior toward her about Spike.
@@snappapop3277He lied to her, broke her heart, then SHAMES her for moving on because... he needed a minute? He could have called off the wedding at ANY POINT before leaving her at the alter, and everyone would have understood. Lets be real here
When season 7 exists no other season can be as bad. I think overall six is solid with some big episodes that make it harmful but overall strong. 🔥
As soon as the three slayers were introduced I couldn't finish it :P
There is no season 7 just as there is no Avatar the last airbender movie
For the scene of Buffy and Spike wrestling over the rocket launcher in the background outside Principal Wood’s study alone, season 7 deserves to exist
Season 7 is awful, and the comics jump shark so badly x
@@hotpinkcrayolas yeah I just saw a trailer for a comic video of that. It's horrible
Me watching this while knitting 👁👄👁
Oh hey! I love your vids!!!
Joss Whedon assaulting his coworkers isn't even surprising at this point considering he screamed at a teenage girl so much the cast agreed to no longer leave him alone with her. Fuck that guy. Definition of "I never got over being bullied in high school so now I'm going to make it everyone else's problem."
@@pajander They should maybe not become abusers themselves.
Even twitter users would bow to the level of mental gymnastics you took to get offended at that statement.@@pajander
Buffy Season 6 isn’t bad. It’s unfocused to some degree, but Once More with Feeling and the Dark Willow stuff remain great. Plus if we’re being honest, the Trio predicted toxic entitled fandom (and maybe foreshadowed Whedon’s own behavior) decades in advance.
from a birds-eye view i love the plot of season 6 (minus the spike and buffy stuff i just really could never stop cringeing about it) the execution just makes it difficult to actually sit all the way thru
Not 'predicted' - observed. Nerd misogyny and toxicity didn't spring into existence with Gamergate! It just sadly wasn't discussed enough or taken seriously.
like you can really feel the episode before Once more suffering in a number of ways because they had to spin their wheel and eat the budget so that the musical should shine.
I think Season 6 is markedly better than 5 personally, but it is the season I can see production suffer the most.
Season six is dark, but one thing i did like about the end of it was Buffy's epiphany revelation. The dialogue where shes says "i want to show it you" to Dawn was some of the best character development for her as a guardian. Going into S7 Buffy basically becomes the person she was growing to be all along. The maturity of S7 makes this season okay for to accept. Still one of the greatest pieces of media till this day.
I've never seen a single episode of Buffy, yet here I am watching a feature length video about a season of it.
Omg, get into it!
Just... watch season 2 first.
@novelproblems I say just start with Season 1, and just keep in mind that it gets SO much better! Plus, it's only half a season.
Unironically, the show saved my life.
Thanks for showing Season 6 the love it deserves.
Mine too :)
"I always adored Anya as a kid, still do, and really related to herd I just can't imagine why. On a completely unrelated side note, does anyone else hate the texture of wool?" My very recent autism diagnosis would like to say hi.
Have you ever tried to bite it? It's even worse. My own autism says hi back 😂
The only thing worse than wool is cotton wool. That stuff is evil, evil, evil. My diagnosis from the year after Anya first appeared in the show says hi to both of you, and also congrats on the recent diagnosis!
At least wool becomes easily avoidable after early childhood and you're not expecting to be wearing it every time you go outside. Jeans on the other hand…
@@Liilliithh the very idea of wool on my teeth makes me feel sick.
@@morinomajou Cotton wool makes me so very uncomfortable, it is the material equivalent of a Nice Guy™
I have a whole thing about season 4. It's not just about the power of friendship, it's about the distinction between community and conformity. The Initiative represents conformity, presenting itself as the good guys but chipping away at people to make them fit into their system. Adam is the ultimate result of that, a mishmash of different body parts that is less than it's sum, and he is defeated by people coming together and pooling their strengths without sacrificing who they are, which is what community is.
watching season 6 as a depressed teenager gave me more hope than any other season or show. the mundanity of her struggles was so compelling to me, it made me feel like i was less alone in how difficult life felt at the time.
this video is incredible, i agreed with every point, and you’re a very eloquent speaker :) great work!!
I feel like if you were genuinely in a really dark place during the transition into adulthood, you'll like season 6 more. The dark toneshift of the show emulated how dark everything got in my life after high school.
I’ve never watched Buffy, but as a current Freshman in college who’s going through it, I think you’re absolutely right. Just watching this video, the season really appeals to me because it just feels so real.
Willow having power (or in my case, freedom/autonomy) and not knowing when she’s going to far is relatable, as is her grief after her first queer relationship.
Additionally, Spike and Buffy going through a relationship that is toxic but not to an absurd, almost comedic degree like I see so often is so incredibly relatable. I’m going through something similar, and I feel so incredibly seen, even just hearing Sarah talk about for a minute.
I was a sophomore in college and sooooo fucking depressed when I watched s6... I love it 😂
My experience was a bit different. I was the same age as Buffy when the show originally aired and I loved the show. I went through a really rough time when I was around 17-18 (which would have been when seasons 2-3 were on). By the time season 6 came around I was in a much better place, and I just found it so much of a drag it made me stop watching for years. There are episodes I like in the season (Tabula Rasa is one of my faves of the whole series), but it's never going to be up there with earlier seasons for me.
Maybe that’s why I love it so much. God it’s brutal out here 🥹
Exactly.
I didn't know people disliked season 6 until now. It was messy and dark and human. I think it pulled everyone closer together and grow.
I have to agree wholly that to me nothing is more hopeful than a story where people suffer some of the worst things imaginable, but find anything to help them latch on and keep living. Fiction as a way to experience extremely difficult feelings in a safe controlled environment is like genuinely one of the most important things in the world to me.
This video is very correct. Not just about S6 - but all the little notes about the characters. However, devils advocate: I've always felt that Spike's VERY misguided attempt at trying to win Buffy back (by assaulting her) was actually perfectly in character for him because of his history of relationships and the way they operated. It is awful, yes, but I do think it makes sense that Spike, when desperate to rekindle love, will fall back on what probably would have worked with Dru, Harmony, etc. Yet I totally understand your point about the framing of this incident being maybe not the best execution.
And yet, Spuffy is still endgame. 10/10 content
Not a Spuffy fan (or an Bangel fan, to be clear) but I agree that the scene was pretty accurate to his character. I personally think a lot of people put the ship before the actual characterization in the show. You can ship them if you want, but unsouled Spike was always really aggressive with the women he was with, including Buffy. I agree that the handling after that sucked, though.
honestly yeah, his actual stated plan to get Dru back after sulking & kidnapping willow & Xander was to kidnap & torture her until she fell back in line. His dynamic with Buffy isn't exactly the same, but they took down a house the first time they ever went at it & they never needed to be on good terms for that aspect of their interactions to work while they were together.
Their entire relationship began with violent sex, it's awful how much sense it makes that he goes back there. I'm never a fan of male characters progressing through women's trauma, but in this instance it's absolutely understandable even as it's unforgivable x
@@hotpinkcrayolas For sure, that difference between "understandable" and "unforgivable" is really important
It's perfectly in character, but I don't think it's necessary. When you think about including sexual violence in a story, you should always stop to ask yourself "is this necessary? Can I reach the same ends through other means? Is there sufficient focus on the survivor and their feelings?" Sexual violence is... pretty much the most traumatic thing that you can be reasonably assured that at least some viewers will have firsthand experience of, so extreme care should be taken. ...I don't think the requisite care was taken here.
"Stacy's Dad" at 5:05 is TOO REAL I CAN'T BREATHE
Did not expect to hear sub-radio in a Sarah z video
FOR REAL
#DaddyGiles4Evah
I hate when people compare Spike to Angel to try to make Spike seem worse...meanwhile Angel without a soul was a menace to society
Also Angel was a possessive piece of s***. HE broke up with Buffy and left "for her own good." And then when he waltzes back into her life, no matter who she's moved on to, he is aggressive towards them.
@calicoc1335 Angel is a much better character in his spin off show in my opinion
I mean, Spike without a soul chose to get one so he would never do something like that again
Angel without a soul well...
didn't do that...
(he had to be cursed)
True, angelus was a DEMON demon. I do wish we could see like an alternate reality version of the show where angelus was the one with the chip in his brain and had to learn to be Iess eviI
@@botanicalitus4194 would be interesting to see Angelus with a chip. I don't feel like he'd be any less evil, but likely more charles manson-y having to convince others to do his evil
My mom started watching Buffy in season six. I was in elementary school at the time. Mom’s someone who’s always chipper and upbeat and very into cozy stuff, but for some reason, she watched every episode of season six. She didn’t watch the earlier seasons or the ones that came after. I think it helped her a lot with understanding what I was going through when I struggled with depression as a teenager. I expected her not to get anything cos she’s such a relentlessly cheerful person who hasn’t personally experienced mental health problems. At first, it was really hard to talk to her about what I was going through, but she always took me at my word. Almost everyone else I talked to, including friends, the school counselor, and my dad were big on saying things like “just decide to be happy and snap out of it” or “it’s not so bad; other people have it worse.” But mom believed me when I told her I was struggling, took me seriously, helped me get the help I needed, and didn’t judge me for being depressed. Every now and then I’d tell her how I felt and she’d make a connection to Buffy. I’m not gonna say Buffy’s the reason mom handled things so well, cos she’s pretty great at being a parent and I’m pretty sure she could handle anything my siblings or I threw at her. But it gave her the vocabulary and exposure to understand my depression and know what to say to cheer me up without being dismissive or patronizing.
Everyone should have parents so understanding 🙂
Man spike seems like a fun as character. This seems like a rlly fun show... maybe I SHOULD get into it some time
I think I'm one of the few people who actually loves 6 for exploring themes of depression and the relentless everyday struggles that come with it. I found Buffy extremely relatable, trying to put a smile on so people won't worry about you while honestly just not wanting to be around anymore. I was in a very similar place emotionally in my life when I first watched season 6.
It did all of that so well that it's the reason for why its not one of my favorite seasons.
I think that's part of the reason why I struggle with it sometimes, it hits a little too close to home - I do enjoy the season but compared to, say, Season 2, it's not something I could watch anytime, I have to be in the right headspace for it.
this show honestly means the world to me. my mum and my sister used to watch it when i was a toddler and id sneak in and give myself nightmares because i wanted to be included. then, when i got older, we watched it together on the illegally burnt DVDs my sister made for me from her box sets. as a younger sister, the season 5 finale BROKE me. then, when i was 15 and depressed, season 6 made me feel so seen and heard and understood. i’m so glad someone finally sees seasons 5 and 6 for the gems they are
The unrecognized and unchallenged misogyny of that season was really hard to take, particularly around Riley and Xander and the Poor Good Boys who Don't Get Their Pants Touched that someone was clearly writing for.
I always wondered why you had a drink in hand - I just thought it was because you were sharing 'the tea' with us or some turn of a phrase like that. Now I see it's to anchor you because you're too powerful without it.
“Buffy falls in love with cardboard” was excellent 😂
Its kinda impressive to do a version of captain America and he is just... so meh.
This is BY FAR my most favorite analysis of yours. Your side comments made me giggle so hard (“Oh yeah, and Buffy falls in love with cardboard” Me: *spits out coffee and screeches in understanding laughter*) and I relate on my love for season 6 and Spike.
Seeing red needed a warning label.
It was very upsetting.
I think a better alternative to the "magic = drugs" idea would be to explore how magic alters a person. Make it clear that the way Willow dove into magic means that it is now a vital part of her, and by not using it at all that it starts lashing out and/or affecting people around her. You can still have the Willow going into withdrawal and going to see Rack things, but it could be written as her trying to stifle who she is (tying back into the queer analogy - trying to force herself back into the magic closet) and trying to find unhealthy ways of doing so, when really what she needs to do is accept herself, the good and the bad, and find a balance like a mature adult.
i know this is missing the forest for the trees, i know buffy struggling with money is meant to add to the general feeling of confronting the misery of adulthood before you feel ready, but it always really annoyed me that by season 6 willow has borderline godlike powers and can raise buffy from the dead but cant help her get some money. esp bc she's literally freeloading in her house while attending the college buffy had to drop out of to make ends meet, and was the one living in there letting buffy rack up debt knowing she was gonna be ressurecting her. or, yknow, giles never attempts to help her out, i mean his whole i have to leave you thing is already so poorly written but the fact that he does it while shes struggling to make ends meet and doesnt think to offer a little financial support.
Giles gives Buffy a cheque at the end of Life Serial. It's not stated how much it was for - just implied that it was large amount, but the prop was sold at auction and apparently it was made out for $10,000.
I don't think it's said that she's in debt (except maybe a mortgage), there's just no inheritance money and that's said to be because of Joyce's hospital bills. She needs money to fix an expensive plumbing issue which is when she applies for a loan, but that all happens after she's back from the dead. (I don't recall anything explicitly in the show, but I always assumed Willow and Tara were covering the day to day living expenses themselves - obviously this would still be less than renting their own place, but they were also looking after Dawn and making sure the Buffybot didn't blow their cover.)
Early seasons: Growing up is so hard
Season 6: And so is adulthood
As someone watching Buffy for the first time now, completely alone, I can always leave it to Sarah to have the PERFECT takes that express exactly what I’m thinking. Because screaming into the void was not really working
Would love to talk about Buffy with you if you're still watching it.
"you let that evil souless thing touch you"
But Anya was evil for about 850 years longer, but she's okay until she has sex with Spike. 😆
Furthermore, Spike didn't chose to be a vampire, he actually chose to be good, MOST of the time(with the chips help, granted), but Anya chose to become a Vengeance Demon. TWICE!
I thought the Buffy/Spike relationship was a really interesting exploration of Buffy’s headspace. In an interview, the actor for Spike told a story where he talked to Joss Whedon while filming one of the episodes. And in that conversation, Josh explained that he has very strong opinions about good and evil in the show. He never wanted evil to be alluring. So, in this relationship, he explores an interesting part of the human condition: in the darkest parts of our lives, we will seek out darkness because it’s more comfortable than the light we can’t receive.
Season Six has always been my favourite. It's so dark and more realistic regarding Buffy's struggles. I was surprised when I first learned most people hated it. Thank you for shining light on it!
Holding a drink in her hands was the only thing keeping Sarah from flailing like she’s fighting a bird. And now we all know that.
It really cant be understated how utterly groundbreaking it was for a show to spend an entire season grappling with the mental and emotional costs with the hero's role in the story, television back then almost always had the characters go back to status quo while never completely dealing with the emotional consequences of the events(even Buffy itself did this constantly, most egregiously in s7) even the best early tv like the X-files rarely allowed its characters to actually deal with whatever new trauma has been dealt to them and usually only in episode one-offs (Never Again my beloved) so this season while highly flawed is probably the most ambitious thing the writers ever attempted
I really liked 2 episodes from season 7.
The first is the one where Spike has to work through his mommy issues and completes his "good guy" transformation.
I thought it was so intriguing.
The second one is Andrew's documentary. I thought it was honestly one of the funniest episodes in the entire series. The scene where he imagines that he was the one who was fighting Willow in the magic shop had me DYING.
Conversations with Dead People is also good. Buffy getting psychoanalyzed is fun, and the other plotlines of that episode are also rather strong. That might actually be it for episodes that are better than just okay though.
@@eggynackThe Buffy scenes in "Conversations with Dead People" always seemed to me like some of Joss Whedon's most annoying writing. Maybe it stands out more because it's interspersed with scenes by other writers.
I watched Buffy for the first time as a teenager, struggling with sobriety and leaving an abusive relationship. Season 6 means the world to me and I will start crying every time I try to explain why. Especially the crayon story
Gone does it for me. Not wanting to be their anymore was very much how I felt
Giles pushing Snyder up against a file cabinet awakened something in me.
Ps. Wool is great, synthetic fleece is the devil.
PAHGSJDHAHDJAJDHJAJDHSD NOOOOOOO
Tabula rasa sounds like the star trek episode where everyone has there memories wiped (except data, I think) and warf bullies his way into being captain because he has the most decorations in his uniform. Also, Riker hooks up with the bejoran lady he usually butts heads with (I think it was ensign ro?). It's a fun episode.
If you want a whole show based on this premise I can recommend Dark Matter.
It's actually pretty good.
I watched Season 6 during the pandemic. Somehow it just talked with what I was feeling, because the world was so sad. I was depressed and I had the same age as Buffy and dude that was hard, but realistic. I love season 6 and it is that depressed touch of reality that sometime we need. Not everything is perfect, sometime things goes wrong and life still happening. The passage from teen years to young adult years are hard and Buffy nailed representing this.
Yup. Very cathartic season.
Especially since they got locked in their house for an episode like us
Fine, twist my arm, I'll rewatch all of Buffy and Angel. Again.
Season 7 wouldve worked better if we got more Willow and Faith connection. Their stories are thematically connected and im baffled why they never explored that. Also Faith couldve easily been Kennedy to Willow (with or without the romance). Anyway thats why season 7 is so depressing to me. Missed opportunity.
Can you imagine if the Scoobies had broken Faith out after Buffy died and the two of them worked together during season 6? Faith would have fit in perfectly.
Season 4: What if we showed how scary growing up can be by having a mean vampire destroy the class protector award?
Season 6: Hold my wig.
As an extremely depressed teenager I found season 6 pretty relatable. That's partially a hindsight realization since I didn't get diagnosed until 15 years after it came out.
Hm, that was a weird emphasis on Xanders relationship in the comics maybe I should google it to find out wh- OH NO
The wooooorrsssttt and even grimmer when you learn about Joss being disturbing to Michelle.
I’m 51 and have watched Buffy front to back at least 20 times, not counting the hundreds of viewings of random episodes that aired on any number of late night channels over the last two and a half decades. Seasons 2 & 3 stand above all others, and Season 6 ranks below Season 5 in terms of overall flow and quality consistency, but I can’t deny it has some of my favorite moments and episodes of the entire run. It falters as a cohesive season, but it fights so hard to grow up. And I’m always here for that, now even more so with my own kids hitting their 20s and pulling away from their mom and me in their journey to adulthood.
Years after the show had aired, my wife and I binged the whole seven seasons together on mailed Netflix DVDs. Season 6 had us riveted way more than it had in previous viewings. Maybe because we were struggling and learning to be adults along with the Scoobies? It was surprisingly moving in ways it hadn’t been before. I will always remember what my wife said (out loud, but to herself, really) when Xander stops Dark Willow in the finale: “I wish I had friends like that.”
We still hold our friends-and each other-to that standard. Unfair but true.
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