@@DMoney011 they just hate anything that goes against what the norm they don’t like him not having an agent because they don’t tell the media anything the market is deshaun Watson deal Lamar has a mvp and he doesn’t if the ravens don’t want to give it to him somebody will in a heart beat and it’s ways to structure it so that the team still has flexibility
Which is why I’m surprised by Acho take on this. The system doesn’t want our athletes thinking they can control their own fate without paying absorbent amounts to “agents”
@@johnrodriguez107 whoa, bruh you out of line. These players put they body on the line for this sport. The owners make millions and millions of profit. The salary cap is not even a quarter billion. The portion they pay players is nothing. No is being greedy for wanting all they can get especially when a player like LJ is bringing so much money into our franchise. He definitely deserves fully guaranteed, but I understand the business side and that is how business is done in America.
@@nbk2O23 nope they are spoiled for something that unessential they don't need that much to play a childs game their mentality is ruining the game prices are all time high at the games because of these greedy ungrateful players sorry but I'm always on the owners side
@@nbk2O23 you think playing football is putting their bodies on the line try military police firefighters coalminer steel workers construction workers etc you know everyday hardworking people these athletes are out of touch with reality Lamar is an example
Jackson ranked 25th in the league in passing 2021 & 2022. 22nd in 2020. He's 3 years beyond his MVP season. He has a losing record in the playoffs. Why would Baltimore give him a long-term fully guaranteed contract? Only 1/3 of Patrick Mahomes' contract is guaranteed.
@@Hscott410_ Exactly all these former players/analysts are not doing Lamar any favors by advising him to “do his own thing”. They keep bringing up his MVP, he is not the same player anymore and that’s what a new contract would be based on, it’s not just about what you accomplished it’s also about projection moving forward, Lamar is trending downward. Too many fans and players are not being objective at all and are reacting too emotionally to this situation
Lamar doesn’t have a deal right now bc he turned down their offer. Not because he doesn’t have an agent that would’ve had him signed for less than what he may get in the near future.
Would you take a offer lower than any body you are better then like kyler Murray ? russle Wilson ? Kirk cousin ? would you take anything lower then them ?
7:58 Dave said it perfectly!! It’s unprecedented & can open up the flood gates. Imagine if / once Lamar pulls off this deal future athletes will think wow why do I need an agent?? The league knows this & wants to tread lightly they DO NOT want to empower the players.
Let some things to handle by professionals. I thought Lamar had a agent...His Mom!!..so even he thought he needed a agent..but very cheap, trying to save some money ...Lol 😆 🤣 😂
Yeah, they did. Now, in my opinion, he is holding out on signing with the ravens because he knows they refuse to get him help. He's playing the long game until they have no choice but to let him walk
As any organization would do it's called negotiation he is taking it personal and as a results needs an agent. If you ever traded in a car guess what you got low balled.
@@lakeozarkrei3767 Russell got 163 guaranteed. Kyler what 166 guaranteed. The guarantee matters. You can give me a 250 million dollar contract, even 300 million, over 5 years. But if you won't get me a better defense, won't get me an experienced oc who won't only draw up run schemes where I could injure myself. Why would I take less than? I'm glad they fired Greg but they're searching for another run scheme OC. So it becomes a lose lose cause Lamar admitted he's been wanted to throw the ball more then 26 times yet he's not been given that said chance. If you're going to not let me be a star. Then pay me more guaranteed. Simple. They won't let another team trade for him. So this is going to keep going back and forth till Lamar decides to sit next season.
@@weneenstv4521 We shall see. I’m waiting for the first of these guaranteed contracts to turn into an abysmal failure. Maybe that will knock some sense into this owners.
They bring up Watson, but he's an outlier. I doubt any of the other teams were gonna give him 230million and all guaranteed. Browns gave him that to make him want to go there.
If I am the Ravens I tell Lamar flat out....IDGAF about Watson. Not their fault the Browns' GM did a deal after 3 bottles of Chardonnay. There's only one guy in the entire league that deserves a fully guaranteed contract...and that is Mahomes. HE is worth twice as much as Lamar. And even HE stayed in reality and even took LESS....MUCH LESS...than his actual market value. Since Lamar is using other people's contracts to negotiate his own. BTW, the reason his passing is still average is because he is acting as his own agent. He is worried more about the money issues an agent would handle...at the expense of improving his game. YES, it IS a HUGE distraction. Unless you think that all agents negotiate are player contracts with teams. They handle a ton of stuff, from endorsements to appearances, etc, etc. They SEEK OUT off-field opportunities for their clients. You really think Lamar can juggle that and playing effectively? I think not. YES, he was an MVP...but more for running...and less for passing.
He should only get the greatest contract ever if he wins more super bowls than mahomes, wins more playoff games than Josh Allen, swears to never pull a dangerfield again, and shows he has the balls to play through a losing season. Also, if an agent only takes 3 per cent, thats about 2.3 million over five years? He will still be making crazy amounts of money. get an agent!
@@kennethpeller7411 He hasn’t gotten paid yet and he’s well past due. So you can say it’s not hurting him but any other Qb would have had a deal by now
@@lennybeason1110 that’s debatable. He got hurt the last two season and nobody agrees with fully guaranteed money except the Browns 🤷🏽♂️if I’m any team I’m looking Lamar in the face and showing them what mahomes makes and telling him to kick rocks
How is it going to look when Burrow & Herbert sign for $250+ mill & $180-200 mill guaranteed?? Taking less than $230 & not fully guaranteed?? Will Lamar be looking extra greedy for demanding so much??
Guaranteed you them 2 wyte boys will at least get 210 mill fully guaranteed. Lamar knows this and he’s waiting to see. We know the nfl tests wyte players different
Deshaun Watson's contract was an outlier. Watson also has as much playoff success, and better playoff stats than Jackson, while Watson played for a team with much less talent in Houston. Jackson also has an injury history that any GM would use against him in contract negotiations. As good of an athlete as Jackson is, no GM in their right mind would give him a fully guaranteed contract at signing. If Jackson could stay healthy, he would more than likely get every penny of a contract that isnt fully guaranteed at signing.
His numbers have gone down since his MVP year in 2019 and he has missed 10 games in the past two seasons. He should not expect watson pay, no one should anytime soon.
Lmao bruh if I hear one more time Lamar’s mom is his agent imma lose it, Lamar represents himself no one else, EDC said in today’s press conference it’s him and Lamar talking no one else
Not necessarily. They did offer a large amount of money (just not Deshaun money). Fully guaranteeing a contract for a QB who uses his legs and has had injury issues is just bad business. We know running QBs typically don’t last as long as pocket passers and Lamar isn't dominate enough to take that risk (he has the same amount of playoff wins as Daniel Jones). If Lamar wants a fully guaranteed contract he will need to hit the open market, one team will be desperate enough to give it to him
Yes they paid flacco but if you account for inflation and the Ravens probably feel burned by the flacco deal after the SB. He was off the team shortly after so they are more reluctant to pay even more than flacco bcuz of the flacco situation.
if you in them contract rooms and dont speak their language, they’ll eat you alive .. other positions can pull it off but a franchise quarterback’s contract is highly complicated and affects the teams salary cap the most. You cant just dumb it down to “I want x amount of guaranteed money” unless its a bottom of the barrel franchise , thats where the agent helps
Bruh. QBs Can “dumb it down”. Esp one in Lamar situation. Ravens are just bad at this. Look at the timing of all there mgt and coaching moves. And if agents are so great, why don’t u use them when entertaining job offers? 🤫
Few QBs in the NFL, you can see reaching the Superbowl without a stand out season on one or both sides of the ball. And luck with injuries. He can carry a lot of load.
So now it’s Lamar’s mother fault that the team didn’t sign Lamar to a long term contract with a year left on his contract like most teams do except for the Cowboys, and we know what a dumpster fire that was and the Ravens do too. The Cowboys could have gotten Dak for cheaper than what they got if they had signed him with a year left on his contract. The Ravens could’ve gotten Lamar for what they allegedly offered had they Secured a long term deal with a year left on the rookie contract before price of the quarterback pay average had gone up to there it is now. Lamar need to demand a trade now after all of this disrespect, like them putting out rumors that they have concerns about his style of play when they set the style of play and installed running plays like he’s a running back. I can understand any team taking advantage of their quarterback’s running ability, but to turn around and blame your quarterback for it is shady.
Their forgetting Wilson’s deals was an extension and so was kyler’s he was signed after 3 years which was early.. the ravens waited to long to sign him now you have to pay him.
I understand exactly why the ravens are hesitant. He's going to want a ton of money and rightfully so, he was uninanimous MVP, BUT if they pay him what he wants they won't be able to build. Ravens best chance for a super bowl was his mvp year and the year after. It's very uncertain now. He needs weapons and those cost money. I'd tag him and let it play out
Did these guys watch the same football season that we did? Did they not see the Baltimore Ravens loose multiple games after having double digits leads? They always talk about Dak Prescot and Arron Rodgers having a bad season. But they completely mislead people by not even mentioning Lamar Jackson had a bad year also. And what proof do they have to say Lamar Jackson's mother is any different than any other agent? Who do they think is pulling Lamar Jackson's strings to even think he deserves more money after the season he just had?
Shady and everyone else that thinks that agents aren’t necessary must be slow in the head. Some people just don’t understand how much value a good-great agent brings to a superstar. Being a top tier agent is about as difficult a job as you can have. Negotiating deals… especially long term deals with billionaires… the best businessmen/women in the world is a monumental task and takes someone who is extremely skilled. Lamar is hurting himself immensely by having his mom fumble her way through this.
Aren't baseball players getting like 400 million to play a wayyyy easier game??? They need to just raise the cap and make it the double norm to pay football players
Y'all said the same thing about paying Dak Prescott and Kyler Murray and Russell Wilson....and look how that all worked out. I don't blame the Ravens for being cautious in paying a QB that has gotten hurt so much and has a ticking clock on his game.
I understand your perspective but the thing is that's the game they're in. You have to pay this QBs or trade them.... Scared money don't make no money. It's always a gamble when you pay a player so you can't hold them hostage based on your fears either you pay them or you trade them it's that simple pretty much.
Mfs like you expect these dudes to go out and play for free. When you perform on the field you get paid when you’re next up period. Why is it so hard for you mfs to understand that?
@@Terp4Life10 He's still going to get paid just not from them... Look at Kirk cousins. If I were them I would bite the bullet but hey it ain't my money 🤷🏿♂️
Why if Watson’s contract was an extreme situation should every team match the extreme situation? Why does it make Watsons the market when after that the market correction was Murray and Wilson? Edit: Owners are gonna pony up just cause. They don’t want to match the bad contract the Browns gave out
It was extrem becyz we’ve nfl seen a qb of Watson talent level in their prime hot free agency. That’s the only difference. Lamar is even better, if he hits free agency, he will get more than Watson.
deshaun watson got an agent and he quietly got 230 million guaranteed, and thats what Lamar is after loud and in the media.. so who’s better at executing their business?
The agent thing is such a mute point they made Roquan smith highest paid in his position in history and he represented himself as well. Ravens just will not pay a quarterback that kind of money
@@Hscott410_ you can flip the arguement however you want, in the same breath great linebacker play is much easier to replace and committing that much to that position can harm the cap as well bottom line is Baltimore isn’t allocating that money to their qb regardless of how good of a qb it is. Not their style
Ain't nobody worth that kind of money except Patrick Mahomes, every other QB is over paid. The Ravens are suckers, they know that 1 MVP four years ago and a bunch of regular season wins isn't that goal, its Super Bowls. Lamar hasn't sniffed one and they won't with the type of cap hit he's asking for because every excuse I hear for them not winning with Lamar is that he needs more help and more help cost's money. Then there is the injury problems that come with a running back playing QB and two years in a row Lamar hasn't been available when it matters most (playoff time) because of it. The Ravens are a top notch franchise that develops their players and has high respect around the league, and they know that overpaying for Lamar would ruin their team. Time to trade this joker who is clearly all about himself and not winning championships.
An organization that will make the biggest mistake if they don't pay LJ and I am longtime RAVENS fans and some dummies out talking bout let LJ go and get Carr,or Tannehill,Jimmy G ok let me know how that works out smh
He won 8 games with ravens or squad, he can easily win 8-10 on the worst NFL team, he is qb1 and rb1...any team will improve....only pocket passers need elite help on all levels
@@smelly6065 I'm not hoping anyone fails. I'm just saying some dumb team is going to pay him a king's ransom and he'll wind up getting hurt yet again and it'll be money totally wasted.
To be honest, I thought agents took more than that. Even at 2-3%, Jackson’s mom is about to become a millionaire so good for her. I think it’s pretty clear, though we really don’t have info, just rumors, that Jackson is looking for a max contract and why not? The Ravens are not going to give it to him though.
How many teams have to get mired in mediocrity due to cap limitations before the “it’s his turn to get paid and the market is what the market is” argument stops holding water?
LJ us injury prone 🤔 So it's LJ fault the center snaps the ball over his head which led to his concussion that would have happened to the other 31 QBS in the league,LJ gets tackled from behind and gets his knee driven into the ground it would have happened to any QB that got tackled that way but LJ is injury prone yeah ok smh
Lamar is looking at Watson's 230 fully and saying I'm just as good or better then Watson Miss like 2 years got into a little trouble and came back playing not that great and still got 230 fully Lamar MVP and has played the last two seasons banged-up a little Lamar is shooting for what he feels like he is worth
This is crazy. We literally cheering for a millionaire to make more millions. Everyone is acting like Lamar Jackson just won back to back SuperBowls, and he never ever been close and probably won’t ever get close now after 5 years. Fans don’t care about his MVP Fans cheer for there team to win, we watch in hopes of our teams winning the superbowl! This isn’t about winning football games it somehow became a Race issue not sure why. When the highest paid QBS are black?
Ravens roster is competitive, and why would you over pay for a QB that missed 10 games in the last 2 seasons. They should have signed him 2 years ago before the bad Watson contract.
Roquan Smith represented himself and was able to get a big deal/contract done after only being there 2 minutes. He’s the highest paid at his position now. Not having an agent is an excuse !
All ex players : " pay that man " , " get yo bag" , the market is the market " ," Deshaun reset the market", " Lamar knows his value". any other phrases? Lol
Watson only went to the Browns cuz they gave him that much guaranteed.. so they went outside the box to land watson due to competition with other teams.. lamar would still have to find a team willing to give out that contract..
Flacco also rejected an extension the off-season before he won the Super Bowl. Didn't like the offer so he went out and put the Raven's in a position where they had to pay him what he wanted.
Lamar doesn’t need an agent , keep those M’s in the family. He’s one of the most exciting players to watch and wherever he plays he’ll fill the stadium. Lamar can get whatever he asks for it’s Baltimore’s loss if they don’t want to pay him
@Sam Wiggins he wins almost 75% of games played behind mahomes, who just so happen to be the only young superbowl winning qb, nobody else, so ur point is
The Ravens schedule hasn't really been that tough the past two years. Their division competition is really just the Bengals so I can't really compare him to a Mahomes or an Allen. People are just enamored with his "style of play" and overlooking the fact that his "style" is not long lasting in the NFL.🎤
@Sam Wiggins mvp who wins almost 75% of his game with a bad offense supporting cast, allen only been good 3 yrs, his first 2 were rocky, lamar been a stud since day one
@@18lilwest 75% wins is sweet, what’s his winning percentage in December and January by the way? Oh yes, he either sits at home or loses typically there
*The problem is, Lamar Jackson is not a hot commodity like Deshaun Watson, there's nothing that's going to change that, and neither are teams beating down the door to sign Jackson.*
I actually agree with Acho on this one (typically I'm on the other side). It seems pretty straightforward - neither Lamar nor his mom have the knowledge or wealth of clients to get a deal done at the same level as an agent. It's no knock on them - how could they? They aren't professional agents. Sure, you can say "he's going to get his money no matter what" and that may be right. But exactly how much? What incentives are included? What conditions? Over how many years? Exactly how much guaranteed? What about the fine print? How much hardball can they play without getting offended? Do they know how to play hardball in the most effective way? The answer seems to be no, or the deal would already be done.
@@weneenstv4521 - what are you talking about? It's literally common knowledge. Do they have a background in professional sports agency or not? Spend literally 90 seconds looking it up and then come back. Smh
What so many people miss, is that a business component is involved. Obviously Lamar should get paid, no doubt about it. But from the Ravens POV, they dont want to pay him with the past injury history. 6/7+ish in each of the last 2-3 seasons is also a factor in making a deal.
Yep and also a factor in this negotiation is the lack of talent on the o line and the receiving core is what lead to the injuries because lj8 is asked to do far more than any other qb with less talent/help around him while also at the time running a lil league offense. In fact it was the offense we ran when i was play lil league football. But with that scheme that greg roman used in buff and in san fran the plays were easy to remember and with the lack of help around him too many times he had to be super lj8... And thats what lead to those injuries... Oh yea and each time it was in the pocket. I said that to say they ask him to run like a RB and throw like the top 2 QB he is with no protection or help down field bcus dfenses knew to double team andrews and they aint got nobody else.... So do u get my point???
45-16 as a starter. That’s 2nd to only mahomes. Btw the ravens employed him In a scheme where the coordinator used him as the primary rtsgesr constantly putting him in harms way. So you can’t use the injury excuse if you as the team are the 1 exposing him to injury.
I agree 100% that he should have went with an experienced agent. And as some of us know all to well a rich man’s pride would rather see Rome burn than to give up that kind of money to an amateur agent. Finally, the devil is always in the details. ALWAYS!!!!! One wrong or overlooked clause or condition and Lamar can say goodbye to his payday.
Look he has zero playoff wins! He has on MVP season and he wants to be the highest paid QB! He will probably get the payday on a team with no line to protect him! Sometimes you have to be careful what you wish for! Leading the league in being sacked can lead to IR just ask Murray and Stafford! Now if he can traded to Miami he could be going to a SB but I don’t think the Ravens trade him to another team in their conference!
Lamar Jackson turned down a great deal. Just stay healthy then you don’t worry about it cant blame the ravens organization for not paying that money he’s young now can you imagine 5 years down the road how many injuries he will have then? Lamar Jackson is a great running with speed but a average thrower his speed will degrease with age! Take the deal Lamar or sign the tag or find a new team and hold out quit crying!
One thing I hate about the NFL is that good QB's typically don't want to move. Some QB's are in bad situations yet they stay on the team that drafted them anyway. As an eagles fan I want Lamar to stay on the ravens because they don't get him talent that he needs but as a football fan Lamar should RUN away from the ravens as soon as possible.
Tired of ex-players setting this "get yours" narrative. It got old 2 years ago. That said, use the non-exclusive tag and see who comes calling with that magic contract he wants. Ravens get first right of refusal to match or get 2 1st round picks. This is easy.
All ex players : " pay that man " , " get yo bag" , the market is the market " ," Deshaun reset the market", " Lamar knows he value". any other phrases? Lol
MVP says he was the best player in the league, Super Bowl days you were the best team. Ravens haven't been the best team but they have someone who is and can be there best player
It gets bad if they franchise him then it’s scary because he gets injured a lot smh this one of those ones where it’s 50/50….. me I would have given him the deal but that’s me thinking as a fan not a GM/Owner I hope it turns out right for him
Difference between his mom and a real agent is the difference between an a customer service associate and a professional salesperson..... They both can ask the same question but one knows how to get someone to say yes.
Never trust a salesperson as an agent lol...look up the history of scammers that are agents. Raquan smith is the highest paid linebacker of all time and he doesn't have an agent, he won't have to worry about someone scamming him.
Sam Acho: the jackhammer voice of the internet. I actually think the guy's wicked smart and he just processes so fast that his mouth feels it just has to keep up.
Why do these annalists think that Lamar deserves 240+ . Dak -bad contract, Deshon -bad contract, Murry -bad contract. You won't win a SB with Lamar so why pay him anything, just trade him & let some other team pay him & lose in the end of the year. Lamar is not Mahomes or Burrow or Allen so please don't pay him just trade him NOW.
The way they talk about this man you would think he’s the best quarterback in the league..I mean seriously lol it’s Lamar Jackson it’s Lamar Jackson…and what is that?! A mvp player 4 years ago who’s number have went down every year since winning..stop worrying about Baltimore..if he so good like y’all say someone else will play him..all they ever say is we failed him so why is the media pressing the ravens so hard to sign him back?! U said they never go him weapons?!he’s vastly overrated and I’m a ravens fan
Y'all mad because you have to do actual work in finding out the juice instead of having Why pay the middle man when you know your worth and you can negotiate for yourself. Btw, his mother is NOT his agent... He makes his own decision, shocking I know. Welcome to the new age 😂😂😂
It's not personal its Business. There are General Mgr in the NFL that refuse to pay exorbitant prices on player's whom they feel they can either replace or they think the player benefited from their schemes. The Seahawks, Steelers, Rams, Vikings, Patriots, and Saints refuse to be hamstrung by any one player that would place his wants over the team. I wish Pete Carroll would hand over those two first rd picks to Ravens and pay Lamar his salary but Pete wouldn't do that its team first mentality.
Wish the media STOP 🛑 with this promotion of agents!!!!! If Lamar is doing his own deal then he will get exactly what HE wants regardless of what anyone else thinks!!!!!!!!! Stop stop stop with this agent stuff I couldn't get pass the first take without turning this OFF.
Lamar should leave, PERIOD. Like he said they made Flacco the richest qb and now they won't pay Lamar. They trippin. Lamar should go to Washington and let EB turn him into a mini Mahomes.
Acho could solve California's energy crisis if his blind belief could be converted to energy. He kept saying he believed Lamar could make more money with an agent but any time he was pushed on it, he had absolutely no reason for his belief. Everybody else is giving their analysis and his response over and over again was "but I think you're wrong because I believe an agent would get him more money." And just left it there. Idiot just really likes to hear himself talk.
Him wanting 200+ guaranteed is stupid. Y’all gotta stop acting out of pocket. Ravens know his injury history better than anyone and he has not earned more than Russ.
You cannot in one sentence say the Deshaun Watson deal is an outlier and then the next sentence say Lamar deserves more. So which is it? Is the Watson deal an outlier that will not be repeated or is it the new standard?
Lamar has his mom pretending to be an agent. That's as dumb as having your plumber cousin act as your lawyer. Other than that brain dead move I'm on Lamar's side. Pay him or trade him. Discount time is over.
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Who Shannon got on there?
@@jeremiahseavey5959 it do matter
If I'm not mistaken, Roquan Smith doesn't have an agent and still got his money, so why can't Lamar?
They don't want Lamar to set a new precedent without having an agent. Cannot have that🤨
They hate when ppl do they own thing
@@xavieonedavis1318 because it doesn’t always work, trying to do your own thing can backfire on you
@@DMoney011 they just hate anything that goes against what the norm they don’t like him not having an agent because they don’t tell the media anything the market is deshaun Watson deal Lamar has a mvp and he doesn’t if the ravens don’t want to give it to him somebody will in a heart beat and it’s ways to structure it so that the team still has flexibility
Which is why I’m surprised by Acho take on this. The system doesn’t want our athletes thinking they can control their own fate without paying absorbent amounts to “agents”
If they had paid Lamar at the end of his year 3, this would never have been an issue.
These players today are just ungrateful and greedy no love for the game all about 💵💵💵💵💵💵
@@johnrodriguez107 whoa, bruh you out of line. These players put they body on the line for this sport. The owners make millions and millions of profit. The salary cap is not even a quarter billion. The portion they pay players is nothing. No is being greedy for wanting all they can get especially when a player like LJ is bringing so much money into our franchise. He definitely deserves fully guaranteed, but I understand the business side and that is how business is done in America.
@@nbk2O23 nope they are spoiled for something that unessential they don't need that much to play a childs game their mentality is ruining the game prices are all time high at the games because of these greedy ungrateful players sorry but I'm always on the owners side
@@nbk2O23 you think playing football is putting their bodies on the line try military police firefighters coalminer steel workers construction workers etc you know everyday hardworking people these athletes are out of touch with reality Lamar is an example
Jackson ranked 25th in the league in passing 2021 & 2022. 22nd in 2020. He's 3 years beyond his MVP season. He has a losing record in the playoffs. Why would Baltimore give him a long-term fully guaranteed contract? Only 1/3 of Patrick Mahomes' contract is guaranteed.
right the facts speak for itself, they want to get emotions and feelings involved
@@Hscott410_ Exactly all these former players/analysts are not doing Lamar any favors by advising him to “do his own thing”. They keep bringing up his MVP, he is not the same player anymore and that’s what a new contract would be based on, it’s not just about what you accomplished it’s also about projection moving forward, Lamar is trending downward. Too many fans and players are not being objective at all and are reacting too emotionally to this situation
i show up for work dont get the job done still want more money than the person who did lol lj is avg at best an cant win
Lamar doesn’t have a deal right now bc he turned down their offer. Not because he doesn’t have an agent that would’ve had him signed for less than what he may get in the near future.
Would you take a offer lower than any body you are better then like kyler Murray ? russle Wilson ? Kirk cousin ? would you take anything lower then them ?
@@shandonfaulkner1397 nope. Lamar is doing the right thing by standing his ground with what he wants.
Weird how people keep spinning it to be everything except what it is huh? His mom has nothing to do with it
7:58 Dave said it perfectly!! It’s unprecedented & can open up the flood gates. Imagine if / once Lamar pulls off this deal future athletes will think wow why do I need an agent?? The league knows this & wants to tread lightly they DO NOT want to empower the players.
Facts
Yup, couldn't agree more
Let some things to handle by professionals. I thought Lamar had a agent...His Mom!!..so even he thought he needed a agent..but very cheap, trying to save some money ...Lol 😆 🤣 😂
It’s simple. The Raven’s lowballed him.
He wants a fully guaranteed deal that's why
Yeah, they did. Now, in my opinion, he is holding out on signing with the ravens because he knows they refuse to get him help. He's playing the long game until they have no choice but to let him walk
250 million with over 100 million guaranteed... That's low balling??🤡😅
I gotta ask! What do you make a year at your job!?🤣
As any organization would do it's called negotiation he is taking it personal and as a results needs an agent. If you ever traded in a car guess what you got low balled.
@@lakeozarkrei3767 Russell got 163 guaranteed. Kyler what 166 guaranteed. The guarantee matters. You can give me a 250 million dollar contract, even 300 million, over 5 years. But if you won't get me a better defense, won't get me an experienced oc who won't only draw up run schemes where I could injure myself.
Why would I take less than? I'm glad they fired Greg but they're searching for another run scheme OC. So it becomes a lose lose cause Lamar admitted he's been wanted to throw the ball more then 26 times yet he's not been given that said chance.
If you're going to not let me be a star. Then pay me more guaranteed. Simple. They won't let another team trade for him. So this is going to keep going back and forth till Lamar decides to sit next season.
The Ravens owner is not will to take the risk the Browns UNWISELY took. I believe the Browns are going to end up regretting that contract.
Well another franchise will 🙂, 300M’s and highest paid QB real soon
@@weneenstv4521 We shall see. I’m waiting for the first of these guaranteed contracts to turn into an abysmal failure. Maybe that will knock some sense into this owners.
They already regret it. Bank on that.
That has to be the worst quarterback deal in the history of the NFL.
If Lamar wants Deshaun money he needs to do what Deshaun did: sit out until you get traded
I thought this was going a completely different way 😂😂😂
@@Gmgdrip 😅👍I'm pretty sure a large part of his 'sitting out' wasn't by choice... lol
That’s what he said he would do if they franchise tag him
@EnterprisesLLCINC Hmmmm... so now zero dollars a year is better then 45 million a year huh....🤡😅
@@lakeozarkrei3767 The Antonio Brown School of Mathematics
All I am saying is Justin Herbert is just a fancied philip rivers
No 🤣🤣 his talented but they do act like his the second coming of Christ
False, he's better no offense to Rivers da legend tho
@@juniorbeckham2928 Phil Rivers is not a legend lol
Why do You care. Is that something to make You feel better???🤷♂️
@@STJH232 Well kinda lol, trying to show him respect
They bring up Watson, but he's an outlier. I doubt any of the other teams were gonna give him 230million and all guaranteed. Browns gave him that to make him want to go there.
He’s not. Kirk cousins already got a fully guaranteed deal
After Watson and Wilson season the Ravens are shaking in their boots about mortgaging the farm
Those guys changed teams and will likely rebound, Lamar hasn't
The Broncos are fine. A lot of you guys are going to look real stupid a few months from now with these takes
Don't forget about Kyler
this show is getting better, i like the 4 of you. good chemistry.
If I am the Ravens I tell Lamar flat out....IDGAF about Watson. Not their fault the Browns' GM did a deal after 3 bottles of Chardonnay. There's only one guy in the entire league that deserves a fully guaranteed contract...and that is Mahomes. HE is worth twice as much as Lamar. And even HE stayed in reality and even took LESS....MUCH LESS...than his actual market value. Since Lamar is using other people's contracts to negotiate his own. BTW, the reason his passing is still average is because he is acting as his own agent.
He is worried more about the money issues an agent would handle...at the expense of improving his game. YES, it IS a HUGE distraction. Unless you think that all agents negotiate are player contracts with teams. They handle a ton of stuff, from endorsements to appearances, etc, etc. They SEEK OUT off-field opportunities for their clients. You really think Lamar can juggle that and playing effectively? I think not. YES, he was an MVP...but more for running...and less for passing.
He should only get the greatest contract ever if he wins more super bowls than mahomes, wins more playoff games than Josh Allen, swears to never pull a dangerfield again, and shows he has the balls to play through a losing season. Also, if an agent only takes 3 per cent, thats about 2.3 million over five years? He will still be making crazy amounts of money. get an agent!
Every Qb that had an agent: Gets paid
Lamar doesn’t have an agent: doesn’t get paid…
But it’s not hurting him 🤣
He owns several businesses he's not hurting for the money that he has to beg the ravens to sign him
@@kennethpeller7411 He hasn’t gotten paid yet and he’s well past due. So you can say it’s not hurting him but any other Qb would have had a deal by now
@@fvozay a deal that would be less than what he’s eventually going to get ‼️
Yall gotta STOP this mess
@@lennybeason1110 that’s debatable. He got hurt the last two season and nobody agrees with fully guaranteed money except the Browns 🤷🏽♂️if I’m any team I’m looking Lamar in the face and showing them what mahomes makes and telling him to kick rocks
How is it going to look when Burrow & Herbert sign for $250+ mill & $180-200 mill guaranteed?? Taking less than $230 & not fully guaranteed?? Will Lamar be looking extra greedy for demanding so much??
Guaranteed you them 2 wyte boys will at least get 210 mill fully guaranteed. Lamar knows this and he’s waiting to see. We know the nfl tests wyte players different
@@boogidwnej179 yet Deshaun 25 cases 1 playoff win Watson isthe highest paid . Isn't he black?
@@boogidwnej179 yeah, well Burrow has been to a Super Bowl, Herbert has played through injury. While Lamar has missed 5+ games each of last 2 seasons.
Deshaun Watson's contract was an outlier. Watson also has as much playoff success, and better playoff stats than Jackson, while Watson played for a team with much less talent in Houston. Jackson also has an injury history that any GM would use against him in contract negotiations. As good of an athlete as Jackson is, no GM in their right mind would give him a fully guaranteed contract at signing. If Jackson could stay healthy, he would more than likely get every penny of a contract that isnt fully guaranteed at signing.
His numbers have gone down since his MVP year in 2019 and he has missed 10 games in the past two seasons. He should not expect watson pay, no one should anytime soon.
Lmao bruh if I hear one more time Lamar’s mom is his agent imma lose it, Lamar represents himself no one else, EDC said in today’s press conference it’s him and Lamar talking no one else
Him reppin himself looks even worse. Still hasnt got paid. Nd now he's injury prone.
Lol it sounds better with mom though while they throw shade
They can hold that against him but the Ravens still need a QB and Lamar holds all the cards
@@Atlas365247 dont worry he will get paid whether its bmore or somewhere else...just sit back & watch
@@kjwworldwide i wonder if bears do a 1 for 1 swap tbh with there 1st thrown in
If they ain't going to pay LJ they ain't going to pay any QB
They paid Flacco
Not necessarily. They did offer a large amount of money (just not Deshaun money). Fully guaranteeing a contract for a QB who uses his legs and has had injury issues is just bad business.
We know running QBs typically don’t last as long as pocket passers and Lamar isn't dominate enough to take that risk (he has the same amount of playoff wins as Daniel Jones).
If Lamar wants a fully guaranteed contract he will need to hit the open market, one team will be desperate enough to give it to him
@@OscarUnrated horrible take
@@reignsupreme7686 disprove it then
Yes they paid flacco but if you account for inflation and the Ravens probably feel burned by the flacco deal after the SB. He was off the team shortly after so they are more reluctant to pay even more than flacco bcuz of the flacco situation.
if you in them contract rooms and dont speak their language, they’ll eat you alive .. other positions can pull it off but a franchise quarterback’s contract is highly complicated and affects the teams salary cap the most. You cant just dumb it down to “I want x amount of guaranteed money” unless its a bottom of the barrel franchise , thats where the agent helps
Bruh. QBs Can “dumb it down”. Esp one in Lamar situation. Ravens are just bad at this. Look at the timing of all there mgt and coaching moves. And if agents are so great, why don’t u use them when entertaining job offers? 🤫
Few QBs in the NFL, you can see reaching the Superbowl without a stand out season on one or both sides of the ball. And luck with injuries. He can carry a lot of load.
Acho talks like he's always reciting a slam poem
That’s what I like about him lol
Acho is a clown show.
So now it’s Lamar’s mother fault that the team didn’t sign Lamar to a long term contract with a year left on his contract like most teams do except for the Cowboys, and we know what a dumpster fire that was and the Ravens do too. The Cowboys could have gotten Dak for cheaper than what they got if they had signed him with a year left on his contract. The Ravens could’ve gotten Lamar for what they allegedly offered had they Secured a long term deal with a year left on the rookie contract before price of the quarterback pay average had gone up to there it is now. Lamar need to demand a trade now after all of this disrespect, like them putting out rumors that they have concerns about his style of play when they set the style of play and installed running plays like he’s a running back. I can understand any team taking advantage of their quarterback’s running ability, but to turn around and blame your quarterback for it is shady.
Their forgetting Wilson’s deals was an extension and so was kyler’s he was signed after 3 years which was early.. the ravens waited to long to sign him now you have to pay him.
I understand exactly why the ravens are hesitant. He's going to want a ton of money and rightfully so, he was uninanimous MVP, BUT if they pay him what he wants they won't be able to build. Ravens best chance for a super bowl was his mvp year and the year after.
It's very uncertain now. He needs weapons and those cost money. I'd tag him and let it play out
I’d tag him 45 mil and see how far he can get with legitimate weapons
Did these guys watch the same football season that we did? Did they not see the Baltimore Ravens loose multiple games after having double digits leads? They always talk about Dak Prescot and Arron Rodgers having a bad season. But they completely mislead people by not even mentioning Lamar Jackson had a bad year also. And what proof do they have to say Lamar Jackson's mother is any different than any other agent? Who do they think is pulling Lamar Jackson's strings to even think he deserves more money after the season he just had?
EDC switch to your real account brah we know its you
Shady and everyone else that thinks that agents aren’t necessary must be slow in the head. Some people just don’t understand how much value a good-great agent brings to a superstar. Being a top tier agent is about as difficult a job as you can have. Negotiating deals… especially long term deals with billionaires… the best businessmen/women in the world is a monumental task and takes someone who is extremely skilled. Lamar is hurting himself immensely by having his mom fumble her way through this.
Aren't baseball players getting like 400 million to play a wayyyy easier game??? They need to just raise the cap and make it the double norm to pay football players
Y'all said the same thing about paying Dak Prescott and Kyler Murray and Russell Wilson....and look how that all worked out. I don't blame the Ravens for being cautious in paying a QB that has gotten hurt so much and has a ticking clock on his game.
I understand your perspective but the thing is that's the game they're in. You have to pay this QBs or trade them.... Scared money don't make no money. It's always a gamble when you pay a player so you can't hold them hostage based on your fears either you pay them or you trade them it's that simple pretty much.
Mfs like you expect these dudes to go out and play for free. When you perform on the field you get paid when you’re next up period. Why is it so hard for you mfs to understand that?
Paying Lamer they should but they also need to get him some help because right now he is a running back QB and WR that’s why he stays hurt
@@rolio9775 They're going to franchise tag him, and then trade him.
@@Terp4Life10 He's still going to get paid just not from them... Look at Kirk cousins. If I were them I would bite the bullet but hey it ain't my money 🤷🏿♂️
Why if Watson’s contract was an extreme situation should every team match the extreme situation? Why does it make Watsons the market when after that the market correction was Murray and Wilson?
Edit: Owners are gonna pony up just cause. They don’t want to match the bad contract the Browns gave out
It was extrem becyz we’ve nfl seen a qb of Watson talent level in their prime hot free agency. That’s the only difference.
Lamar is even better, if he hits free agency, he will get more than Watson.
No he won’t no owner is going to do that again I promise you Lamar will have to compromise
deshaun watson got an agent and he quietly got 230 million guaranteed, and thats what Lamar is after loud and in the media.. so who’s better at executing their business?
Why do people keep putting all the hate on the Ravens when you have no idea if lamar Jackson is asking for an absurd amount
You have no proof Lamar is asking for an absurd amount tho.
@@boogidwnej179 In my opinion the contract he already turned down was crazy to offer him. So I would say yeah you do.
Not necessarily. The Ravens are cheap. Bottom line 😎
Lamar is not worth it one hit away from him not playing which happened twice already
Lamar is amazing on Madden. He ain't all that irl.
Lies
The agent thing is such a mute point they made Roquan smith highest paid in his position in history and he represented himself as well. Ravens just will not pay a quarterback that kind of money
a QBs contract effects the salary cap the most, roquans deal was easier no comparison
@@Hscott410_ you can flip the arguement however you want, in the same breath great linebacker play is much easier to replace and committing that much to that position can harm the cap as well bottom line is Baltimore isn’t allocating that money to their qb regardless of how good of a qb it is. Not their style
Ain't nobody worth that kind of money except Patrick Mahomes, every other QB is over paid. The Ravens are suckers, they know that 1 MVP four years ago and a bunch of regular season wins isn't that goal, its Super Bowls. Lamar hasn't sniffed one and they won't with the type of cap hit he's asking for because every excuse I hear for them not winning with Lamar is that he needs more help and more help cost's money. Then there is the injury problems that come with a running back playing QB and two years in a row Lamar hasn't been available when it matters most (playoff time) because of it. The Ravens are a top notch franchise that develops their players and has high respect around the league, and they know that overpaying for Lamar would ruin their team. Time to trade this joker who is clearly all about himself and not winning championships.
An organization that will make the biggest mistake if they don't pay LJ and I am longtime RAVENS fans and some dummies out talking bout let LJ go and get Carr,or Tannehill,Jimmy G ok let me know how that works out smh
If Lamar had an agent he would’ve been paid already,they don’t like the fact that he doesn’t have one
They don't like the guaranteed money...agent or no.
Giving up that type of money to a novice “Mom” agent does not sit well with them at all.
I can't wait to see some team pay Lamar whatever he wants only to see another repeat of Denver and Arizona while the Ravens laugh the entire time.
He won 8 games with ravens or squad, he can easily win 8-10 on the worst NFL team, he is qb1 and rb1...any team will improve....only pocket passers need elite help on all levels
@@The-Heart-Will-Testify Guess that explains his injuries and games missed over the last two seasons. A trend that will continue.
He’s better than both of those qbs. He also has and mvp which neither of them do. Relax
@user-or9sn5qr5f...you live a sad life hoping for someone to fail...yet will still be richer than you.
@@smelly6065 I'm not hoping anyone fails. I'm just saying some dumb team is going to pay him a king's ransom and he'll wind up getting hurt yet again and it'll be money totally wasted.
To be honest, I thought agents took more than that. Even at 2-3%, Jackson’s mom is about to become a millionaire so good for her. I think it’s pretty clear, though we really don’t have info, just rumors, that Jackson is looking for a max contract and why not? The Ravens are not going to give it to him though.
Lamar said "HIS MOM IS NOT A PART OF THE NEGOTIATING"... And people are still running with that false narrative.
If the Ravens don’t pay Lamar, John Harbaugh should just start looking for another job now. The Raven’s are going to be trash for a long time
Lamar doing the negotiations himself
@@garysmithjr2166 only racist idiot non Black people keep bringing up Lamar’s Mom as his agent even tho Lamar said several times she is not.
How many teams have to get mired in mediocrity due to cap limitations before the “it’s his turn to get paid and the market is what the market is” argument stops holding water?
That’s why baseball don’t have a salary cap. But I digress 😎
@@vincente4570 Gotta play within the bounds of the arena you find yourself in. Baseball has it’s own problems.
@@scottym.9077 I said that to make a point. That’s all 🤷🏿♂️
They are paying, just not fully guaranteed, which is smart, considering hes injuryprone
LJ us injury prone 🤔 So it's LJ fault the center snaps the ball over his head which led to his concussion that would have happened to the other 31 QBS in the league,LJ gets tackled from behind and gets his knee driven into the ground it would have happened to any QB that got tackled that way but LJ is injury prone yeah ok smh
Lamar is looking at Watson's 230 fully and saying I'm just as good or better then Watson Miss like 2 years got into a little trouble and came back playing not that great and still got 230 fully Lamar MVP and has played the last two seasons banged-up a little Lamar is shooting for what he feels like he is worth
This is crazy. We literally cheering for a millionaire to make more millions. Everyone is acting like Lamar Jackson just won back to back SuperBowls, and he never ever been close and probably won’t ever get close now after 5 years. Fans don’t care about his MVP Fans cheer for there team to win, we watch in hopes of our teams winning the superbowl! This isn’t about winning football games it somehow became a Race issue not sure why. When the highest paid QBS are black?
Roquan Smith did not have an agent and he did ok with his contract lol
He's also not asking for the highest contract in NFL history
@@soda8736 he did what are you on
@@MrNoSubscribes bro a linebacker contract is not the highest contract ever..
Lamar can wait and the price will go up!
Trade Lamar Jackson For Justin Herbert Sign Robert Woods Or DeAndre Hopkins Trade Dobbins For Barkley
I'm confused. So allegedly Daniel Jones wants 45 mill ( and might get it) You mean L Jack not worth 45 at least if Danny Dimes could get that???🤔
I hate this soft, tweet and delete generation.
Ravens roster is competitive, and why would you over pay for a QB that missed 10 games in the last 2 seasons. They should have signed him 2 years ago before the bad Watson contract.
LJ still didn’t get a deal? Baltimore really dropping the ball🤦🏾♂️
Roquan Smith represented himself and was able to get a big deal/contract done after only being there 2 minutes. He’s the highest paid at his position now. Not having an agent is an excuse !
All ex players : " pay that man " , " get yo bag" , the market is the market " ," Deshaun reset the market", " Lamar knows his value". any other phrases? Lol
Watson only went to the Browns cuz they gave him that much guaranteed.. so they went outside the box to land watson due to competition with other teams.. lamar would still have to find a team willing to give out that contract..
The inflation of money compared to what Flacco got compared to now and fully guaranteed is a huge difference acho
Flacco also rejected an extension the off-season before he won the Super Bowl. Didn't like the offer so he went out and put the Raven's in a position where they had to pay him what he wanted.
Did Joy just say "trick that off". Does she know what the term means lol. Love it
😂😂😂😂😂
Lamar doesn’t need an agent , keep those M’s in the family. He’s one of the most exciting players to watch and wherever he plays he’ll fill the stadium. Lamar can get whatever he asks for it’s Baltimore’s loss if they don’t want to pay him
And exciting was RG3, Mike Vick, Donovan McNabb, Colin Kaepernick, Randall Cunningham. And none of them won a Superbowl.
@Sam Wiggins he wins almost 75% of games played behind mahomes, who just so happen to be the only young superbowl winning qb, nobody else, so ur point is
The Ravens schedule hasn't really been that tough the past two years. Their division competition is really just the Bengals so I can't really compare him to a Mahomes or an Allen. People are just enamored with his "style of play" and overlooking the fact that his "style" is not long lasting in the NFL.🎤
@Sam Wiggins mvp who wins almost 75% of his game with a bad offense supporting cast, allen only been good 3 yrs, his first 2 were rocky, lamar been a stud since day one
@@18lilwest 75% wins is sweet, what’s his winning percentage in December and January by the way? Oh yes, he either sits at home or loses typically there
He’s leaving out that Flacco wouldn’t have been the highest paid if the ravens weren’t cheap and just given him 2 mil more a year that’s all he wanted
Lamar has said publicly that his mother is not involved in his negations, so why are we still saying this Acho?!
*The problem is, Lamar Jackson is not a hot commodity like Deshaun Watson, there's nothing that's going to change that, and neither are teams beating down the door to sign Jackson.*
I actually agree with Acho on this one (typically I'm on the other side). It seems pretty straightforward - neither Lamar nor his mom have the knowledge or wealth of clients to get a deal done at the same level as an agent. It's no knock on them - how could they? They aren't professional agents. Sure, you can say "he's going to get his money no matter what" and that may be right. But exactly how much? What incentives are included? What conditions? Over how many years? Exactly how much guaranteed? What about the fine print? How much hardball can they play without getting offended? Do they know how to play hardball in the most effective way? The answer seems to be no, or the deal would already be done.
How you know this ? You know them ? Uh No, so shut it
@@weneenstv4521 - what are you talking about? It's literally common knowledge. Do they have a background in professional sports agency or not? Spend literally 90 seconds looking it up and then come back. Smh
Lamar is way overrated that’s why the Ravens are not paying him and I don’t blame them.
Lamar can take slight less because he doesnt have to pay his agent. So tech a lil less deal actually same mobey.
What so many people miss, is that a business component is involved. Obviously Lamar should get paid, no doubt about it. But from the Ravens POV, they dont want to pay him with the past injury history. 6/7+ish in each of the last 2-3 seasons is also a factor in making a deal.
Yep and also a factor in this negotiation is the lack of talent on the o line and the receiving core is what lead to the injuries because lj8 is asked to do far more than any other qb with less talent/help around him while also at the time running a lil league offense. In fact it was the offense we ran when i was play lil league football. But with that scheme that greg roman used in buff and in san fran the plays were easy to remember and with the lack of help around him too many times he had to be super lj8... And thats what lead to those injuries... Oh yea and each time it was in the pocket. I said that to say they ask him to run like a RB and throw like the top 2 QB he is with no protection or help down field bcus dfenses knew to double team andrews and they aint got nobody else.... So do u get my point???
He wldnt have missed 6 games this year if he had a contract plain and simple he shld have been paid after MVP season, this is Ravens fault
45-16 as a starter. That’s 2nd to only mahomes.
Btw the ravens employed him In a scheme where the coordinator used him as the primary rtsgesr constantly putting him in harms way. So you can’t use the injury excuse if you as the team are the 1 exposing him to injury.
I agree 100% that he should have went with an experienced agent. And as some of us know all to well a rich man’s pride would rather see Rome burn than to give up that kind of money to an amateur agent. Finally, the devil is always in the details. ALWAYS!!!!! One wrong or overlooked clause or condition and Lamar can say goodbye to his payday.
The nflpa Reads through and makes sure everything is on the up and up for All contracts
When your play “Speaks for its self “ you don’t need an agent to speak for you .
Look he has zero playoff wins! He has on MVP season and he wants to be the highest paid QB! He will probably get the payday on a team with no line to protect him! Sometimes you have to be careful what you wish for! Leading the league in being sacked can lead to IR just ask Murray and Stafford! Now if he can traded to Miami he could be going to a SB but I don’t think the Ravens trade him to another team in their conference!
Cmon he’s won already in the playoffs relax
Lamar Jackson turned down a great deal. Just stay healthy then you don’t worry about it cant blame the ravens organization for not paying that money he’s young now can you imagine 5 years down the road how many injuries he will have then? Lamar Jackson is a great running with speed but a average thrower his speed will degrease with age! Take the deal Lamar or sign the tag or find a new team and hold out quit crying!
One thing I hate about the NFL is that good QB's typically don't want to move. Some QB's are in bad situations yet they stay on the team that drafted them anyway. As an eagles fan I want Lamar to stay on the ravens because they don't get him talent that he needs but as a football fan Lamar should RUN away from the ravens as soon as possible.
Tired of ex-players setting this "get yours" narrative. It got old 2 years ago. That said, use the non-exclusive tag and see who comes calling with that magic contract he wants. Ravens get first right of refusal to match or get 2 1st round picks. This is easy.
That would be dumb on the Ravens part. They aren’t letting him go for just 2 first round picks.
@@Finnissee0122 Can't have it both ways. If he's worth multiple draft picks then pay him like he's worth multiple draft picks.
All ex players : " pay that man " , " get yo bag" , the market is the market " ," Deshaun reset the market", " Lamar knows he value". any other phrases? Lol
Get him out of Baltimore I’m tired of this drama queen
Let's be real here. Lamar has 1 mvp not 1 superbowl :/ He really shouldn't base his contract on deshaun since browns was desperate
MVP says he was the best player in the league, Super Bowl days you were the best team. Ravens haven't been the best team but they have someone who is and can be there best player
Why because he is bla’k if white Qb did the same thing all of you won’t say the same things
Funny the most racist are the ones that bring race into everything 1st.
AAWWWW, DJANGO HURT
Acho once again don’t know what he’s talking about meanwhile ro smith didn’t have agent and got paid during the season…😴
He seem to think he does
It gets bad if they franchise him then it’s scary because he gets injured a lot smh this one of those ones where it’s 50/50….. me I would have given him the deal but that’s me thinking as a fan not a GM/Owner I hope it turns out right for him
Difference between his mom and a real agent is the difference between an a customer service associate and a professional salesperson..... They both can ask the same question but one knows how to get someone to say yes.
Never trust a salesperson as an agent lol...look up the history of scammers that are agents. Raquan smith is the highest paid linebacker of all time and he doesn't have an agent, he won't have to worry about someone scamming him.
Negotiation directly with the player causes issues. No one mentions this! It’s maddening!!
What I’ve heard is holding up this deal is an injury clause after 3 years.
Everyone says this...
@@TheWiz208 you haven't heard anything you don't know jack. Shut up
It didn't stop the Raven's from signing Roquan Smith
Roquon smith represents himself and got paid
Lamar is taking on the NFL owners and taking on agents. thats why its dragonbalz
He's Thanos
Acho got a $100 haircut not what some of these barbers be puttin online 😂
Us Panther fans will take him
Sam Acho: the jackhammer voice of the internet. I actually think the guy's wicked smart and he just processes so fast that his mouth feels it just has to keep up.
Don't all the other panel members look like they wish they were elsewhere?
@@gerritfridericksohn4627 no they look like they're not listening and are just thinking about what they want to say next
This Achos moms burner phone??😅 Acho's takes are usually HORRIBLE!
I see what Wiley was talking about with Acho he wants ppl to know this is his show nobody else knows what they are talking about on this show
I can’t listen to him makes my ears hurt
Ravens are underestimating LJs value.
Lamar " cryptic tweet " Jackson
Why do these annalists think that Lamar deserves 240+ . Dak -bad contract, Deshon -bad contract, Murry -bad contract. You won't win a SB with Lamar so why pay him anything, just trade him & let some other team pay him & lose in the end of the year. Lamar is not Mahomes or Burrow or Allen so please don't pay him just trade him NOW.
The way they talk about this man you would think he’s the best quarterback in the league..I mean seriously lol it’s Lamar Jackson it’s Lamar Jackson…and what is that?! A mvp player 4 years ago who’s number have went down every year since winning..stop worrying about Baltimore..if he so good like y’all say someone else will play him..all they ever say is we failed him so why is the media pressing the ravens so hard to sign him back?! U said they never go him weapons?!he’s vastly overrated and I’m a ravens fan
Y'all mad because you have to do actual work in finding out the juice instead of having Why pay the middle man when you know your worth and you can negotiate for yourself. Btw, his mother is NOT his agent... He makes his own decision, shocking I know. Welcome to the new age 😂😂😂
It's not personal its Business. There are General Mgr in the NFL that refuse to pay exorbitant prices on player's whom they feel they can either replace or they think the player benefited from their schemes. The Seahawks, Steelers, Rams, Vikings, Patriots, and Saints refuse to be hamstrung by any one player that would place his wants over the team. I wish Pete Carroll would hand over those two first rd picks to Ravens and pay Lamar his salary but Pete wouldn't do that its team first mentality.
Wish the media STOP 🛑 with this promotion of agents!!!!! If Lamar is doing his own deal then he will get exactly what HE wants regardless of what anyone else thinks!!!!!!!!! Stop stop stop with this agent stuff I couldn't get pass the first take without turning this OFF.
Lamar should leave, PERIOD. Like he said they made Flacco the richest qb and now they won't pay Lamar. They trippin. Lamar should go to Washington and let EB turn him into a mini Mahomes.
Acho could solve California's energy crisis if his blind belief could be converted to energy.
He kept saying he believed Lamar could make more money with an agent but any time he was pushed on it, he had absolutely no reason for his belief. Everybody else is giving their analysis and his response over and over again was "but I think you're wrong because I believe an agent would get him more money." And just left it there.
Idiot just really likes to hear himself talk.
Please dont compare Wilson money with Lamar, Wilson have a SuperBowl, Qb without SuperBowl shouldn't be paid that much. The market is damage.
Him wanting 200+ guaranteed is stupid. Y’all gotta stop acting out of pocket.
Ravens know his injury history better than anyone and he has not earned more than Russ.
You cannot in one sentence say the Deshaun Watson deal is an outlier and then the next sentence say Lamar deserves more. So which is it? Is the Watson deal an outlier that will not be repeated or is it the new standard?
Shady is not needed here man
Lamar has his mom pretending to be an agent. That's as dumb as having your plumber cousin act as your lawyer. Other than that brain dead move I'm on Lamar's side. Pay him or trade him. Discount time is over.
Allowing Roman and Saunders incompetence to flourish is the root of the problem. Accountability and fixing is the answer.
Who are you to say she is not qualified? They just paid the Linebacker who also has no agent!!! They just him for the low. Pay or let him get paid.