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I've always wondered if there is something that benchmarks suffering. Strange as this sounds, I watch Lionel Sanders recent video and how he was disappointed (to put that mildly) with his last race. And, the reason he attributed the loss was to the fact he lacked speed and inferred to get speed requires a higher willingness to suffer (something he is famous for). His recent training leading up the race was lactate based with altitude training (sometimes called - the Norweign method). In the video he basically said, f(*&k what the lactate meter says its time to suffer his way to improvement. And... that is contrary to everything I have read about "going slow to go fast". This seems to makes some sense because you don't find your best effort without struggling inside the darkest part of effort. To me, that says there should be a quantifiable "suffering index" that can be incorporated into the more typical aspects of endurance training. If so, mayber there is a 80/20 version of suffering that is more involved than simply HIIT based on extremely short periods of intensity.
Hey Nick. I would have liked to come in for a test while there for Melbourne Marathon this year but not something I would do days before a marathon or soon after. I do have a question or your thoughts. I hear a lot of people while HR Training that their HR tends to spike early while I on the other hand if I want to run at 70% MHR I have to run so fast for about 6 to 10km and it feels hard before 70%MHR starts feeling easy. Pace is about a 4'30/km and then settles to a 4'40"-4'50"/km until 20km before I start to slow to 5min/km. What are your thoughts? Yes I use a chest strap and yes I've even compared 3 straps on 3 watches and 2 watches at the same time. Max HR is the highest it's gotten in a HM and dry reaching over the finish line haha.
The reason I ask is we first have to rule out that the 70% MHR you’re attempting to reach actually corresponds with the target pace you’re aiming for. That could be a reason why you seemingly find it hard to “make them match”.
I actually like going about my business and listen to this in the background but everyone is different. I find I don't have time to sit and watch or want to.
I've always wondered if there is something that benchmarks suffering. Strange as this sounds, I watch Lionel Sanders recent video and how he was disappointed (to put that mildly) with his last race. And, the reason he attributed the loss was to the fact he lacked speed and inferred to get speed requires a higher willingness to suffer (something he is famous for). His recent training leading up the race was lactate based with altitude training (sometimes called - the Norweign method). In the video he basically said, f(*&k what the lactate meter says its time to suffer his way to improvement. And... that is contrary to everything I have read about "going slow to go fast". This seems to makes some sense because you don't find your best effort without struggling inside the darkest part of effort. To me, that says there should be a quantifiable "suffering index" that can be incorporated into the more typical aspects of endurance training. If so, mayber there is a 80/20 version of suffering that is more involved than simply HIIT based on extremely short periods of intensity.
Great stuff man!
Side question- did you go to UMich!?
Did a short S&C internship there in 2016, so didn’t study there but love the place!
Hey Nick. I would have liked to come in for a test while there for Melbourne Marathon this year but not something I would do days before a marathon or soon after. I do have a question or your thoughts. I hear a lot of people while HR Training that their HR tends to spike early while I on the other hand if I want to run at 70% MHR I have to run so fast for about 6 to 10km and it feels hard before 70%MHR starts feeling easy. Pace is about a 4'30/km and then settles to a 4'40"-4'50"/km until 20km before I start to slow to 5min/km. What are your thoughts? Yes I use a chest strap and yes I've even compared 3 straps on 3 watches and 2 watches at the same time. Max HR is the highest it's gotten in a HM and dry reaching over the finish line haha.
Am I right in interpretation to say you mean your HR takes a while to “catch up”?
@@NJSportScience Haha. Yes. Nicely put in 1 sentence.
Are you sure your pace is accurately correlating with the HR you’re trying ti run at?
@@NJSportScience Yes. I use 2 watches showing the same results with GPS. Garmin and Coros. GPS signal and looking at track on map its good.
The reason I ask is we first have to rule out that the 70% MHR you’re attempting to reach actually corresponds with the target pace you’re aiming for. That could be a reason why you seemingly find it hard to “make them match”.
Hi, Nick. It's Pavel. I wrote you e-mail. Are you read them?
I’ll have a look now, might have missed it in my inbox 👍🏻
I would suggest u to put less of talking and more of things to see
I actually like going about my business and listen to this in the background but everyone is different. I find I don't have time to sit and watch or want to.
Thanks for your opinion, when you say "more things to see", what do you want to see?