Multi Welder - PARKSIDE PMSG 200 A1 (199€) TIG, MIG, MMA | Unboxing and Test
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- Unboxing and test of a Multi Welder Parkside PMSG 200 A1. I bought it in LIDL for 199€. You can weld without shielding gas. I tested standard MIG welding with gas (CO2), then GASLESS MIG welding with flux core wire, then MMA welding (stick welding) and finally I tried TIG welding with torch from my Fronius DC TIG welder.
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I am also not a professional welder but a few things I noticed: the current seemed too high in some cases because you have burned through the material so lowering it might give better results. Another thing, using TIG torch - you should stop and keep the torch right above the weld when you finish your welding to keep the last piece of weld harden shielded by the gas. You have taken your hand away and then went back in to cover it with gas, but after those 3 seconds it was not halping anything. Keep the gas there RIGHT after you stop welding for a few seconds. There is a good review in czech language by Killeroz channel on youtube. IT is a pretty decent Welder - I recommend watching that also.
Thank you for helping me notice these things. I'll try it next time.
That machine does not have a switch with high frequency start for TIG; it's scratch start only, in order to stop the weld you have to whip the torch away from the work to extinguish the arc. Thus means the weld will always get some air contamination, but it's not as bad if you get the torch back quickly.
You should use a WP-17V torch, it's the one with the valve on it for scratch start.
Welding thin car body thickness panels requires a welder that will go down to LOW amps, in a MIG sense, as you've commented "turning down the current will help." as he's blown holes in his panel.
Most MIG welders will not go below 40 amps and this is required for this sort of thin work. Sadly, Flux Cored MiG wire requires higher current than wire and gas, and this is why the results using Flux Cored wire were much worse than the MIG and Gas., which was already too much. as you've said.
When shopping for a Welder, if you aspire to welding 1mm car panels or thin stuff, a welder that goes under 40 amps is needed, and it becomes surprisingly 'hard' to find in the budget end of the market where most people are focusing on the top end power numbers and that is what they buy.
My own choice has been "lower is always best" where the first thing I check is how low will it go. My current welder [traditional MIG and Gas] will go down to 25 amps. You can always work up from that, but you can't ever go below the minimum the machine will deliver. If on its lowest setting that's still too much then its game over with that welder. I've been able to happily weld .7mm sheet steel with the 'lower is best' approach.
@@JoshuaNicoll How would you add high frequency starting to this or would it even be possible?
@@MWSRD it is possible, years ago when TIG welders where just simple machines like this you could buy add ons that did thinks like ramp up.and down of current, pulsing and HF start. The modern version is called the Arc pig. It also does pre post and post post I think, it looks like it definitely does gas though so no more need for the manual valve.
Looked like the first test the heat settings were a bit high. Thin metal is always a pain for us hobbyists. Flux core is worse about this than mig. Have to do more jumping around so it doesn't heat up the base metal too bad. And gaps in your fitment will blow out more on thin stuff. I'm no expert but most of welding success is good prep work in making sure things fit well.
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I member you from veselica last year, u were more zašvasan than half the people there. Than it eskaliralo to this masterpiece. Props.
Veselica is the best machine your money can buy. I reckon you buy one and if its not enough you can always take kakšn cukr and you will be out of this world. Govorim resnico.
Kaksna veselica spet
Thank you for this test.
You're wellcome
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PERFECT VIDEO ! WITH MMA WELDER PLUS PERFECT FOR ALL !!!
It's not too bad for a 200 euro machines, certainly very functional.
Thank you for the vid. Bought a tig and stick welder to learn how, was just waiting for a vid like your.. being very much a novice it would have been good if you could have talked us through what you were doing and how we can improve..
I'm making videos without talking so it's more suitable for everyone else that does not speak english. I'll make a more in depth testing video of all of my tools.
He can’t speak well English...maybe..
@@bobot021070 You sir, are probably right.
bro. go to weld.com or 6061's channel
@nuff said must I ask why? :)
Gracias Carlos, tendré que buscar una opción más viable aquí en México. 👍💯
Cengrl matherUl
Berapa hrg nya ?
Berapa hrg?
merci pour le test, j'ai acheté le poste convaincu :) pour la torche Fronius DC TIG quel modèle exactement je n'arrive pas à trouver
Video yang mengesankan. . Terimakasih untuk percobaan mesin yang sangat luar biasa ini 🙏
Esos sonidos o Ruidos Al abrir y extraer Los objetos del empaque me agradan por que voy a estrenar mi EQUIPO nuevo.
good job,I saw the welding electrode and self flux welding wire
Thanks for the video! I'm currently training to be a coded welder and bought this machine when I stumbled upon it in LIDL today. Hopefully get it set up in the morning and get to play around with it 😌
Glad you liked the video. Hope u use it well.
Perfect Vedio .... 👍
Informative .... 👍
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Seems like a good machine for the miney
Very good video. I have this model aboud a month now, and it's good for hobby use.
How much it cost link pl
Can i get in India pl
Amazing and compatible. I personally use portable machines for the on-site works.
I'll soon make a better test. Now that I welded a lot more, I think this is the best machine for the money. Period.
@@MakeAndTest that would be great. I been doing it for a decade now and yes you're really great.
@@MakeAndTest Yes, if you don't talk write 1-2 sentences of your opinion, even if informally. I do not understand what i'm seeing, I just want to weld something before I kick the bucket and was wondering if it worths the buy. :D I'll be pretty impressed if with this crappy price it lasts more than 100 hours, but 2euro/hour that's good. :D
The best masin welder. I like it.
And its pretty cheap.
How much
@@sanofrancisco1130 ffs U got it in title....
Sano Francisco g
@@sanofrancisco1130 ,xh
Good morning/or pm to you Sir,
Saan pwedeng orderin itong welding machine?
Thanks
Nice testing....good quality and best setting multi welding machine .👌👌👌👌👏👏👏👍👍👍
Thanks man, glad it was useful
Well done bro. The exact information i need
When MIG welding with gas, you should push the gun, leaves a flatter and better formed bead, though there are times when you'd use the pull technique. Your travel speed also seems a bit fast in a few tests.
Getting MIG welders that are good at the low end is hard, usually only expensive MIG machines or pulsed MIG machines can do very thin material, it's just harder for the machine to maintain a stable low voltage when welding.
Thanks for the feedback man. I really appreciate it.
@@MakeAndTest You're welcome.
I must say that does not leave me envious of my TIG welder, though they have a similar welder at my local Lidl right now, but it's an even lower amp version than that, more or less useless, if I wanted a MIG welder I'd probably just buy a €500 china one that actually has wire speed adjustment, that's a really important adjustment, I can't even think of welding at work without wire speed adjustment.
Damn nice welder for that money... well enough for the good hobbyist
Máy han 3/1 loại này giá bán như nào vậy anh..
Excelente equipo multifuncional guaoo me gusta
Best welding this kind off welding machine...
Cuando la ponen en venta en lidl me interesa
Always look on the Parkside of life
Man, you nailed that one :D
😂😂😂
Thanks for the information sir
Hi thanks for video.
Is it really that loud? On my phone it sounds like a jumbo jet engine that needs a tune??
При сварке толстых тобишь 3-х и 4-х мм. металлов,убирать подачу проволоки нужно для прогрева и провара,меньше высота шва выходит,так что эксперементируйте !!!!
Спасибо за информацию
Прикольно. Показали бы еще, как алюминий варить.
Aap Bohot samajdar insan hai bhaiya
Stupenda saldatrice multiuso? Intanto complimenti per la sua professionalità ...una sola domanda ho visto il prezzo di 199 euro se non sbaglio , dove è possibile acquistarla? Grazie e saluti
Для домашнего использования, неплохо, сам подобным пользуюсь
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Abonner plz
Долго служит? Какие впечатления?
@@Markus76608 я не сварщик, ни разу, брал для ремонта грузовика, заварил дыры, проварил трещины, приваривал уши для вытягивания металла и тд. Пока работает не жалуюсь.
@@Thundernoise спасибо
Okee, let's be honest.
For 199 euro you can buy this machine that can do al that.
I am running welding machines of 14,000euro ën it can run only Mig/mag.
I know that is not the best compares by the fact that I am a offshore welder.
But for a home gamer this machine is good enough.
PS in the comments everybody cries about your welding.
But for a machine straight out of the box with no time for testing al the settings, I say it's a good review.
Thanks man I really appreciate your feedback and support.
3 months on 3 months off am I right?
martin who is the USA distributor..?
@@robertcarter2852 I don't know.
I live in the Netherlands
@@robertcarter2852 Sorry I don't know
Great articulation. Lol.
Great video
Spettacolare🔝
Very nice video. Great job...Thanks!! I just bought this welder and I am very happy. Never I had welded with Mig and is very easy (with flux). Maybe someday I will buy gas, it seems better weldings. Do you know if this machine can adjust the speed wire? I know that it is automatic speed but I think that maybe the wire can be adjusted. Thanks!
No you cannot adjust wire speed. It automaticly increases with amperage. If you're welding outside it is better to use flux core, so the wind can't destroy your arc/weld. Use gas only indors where there is no wind.
How much was it.
@@phylliswade5403 199€
@@MakeAndTest thanks!
Good show
What a concept! A no fat video. Didn't have to fast forward for once. Thanks for your time & not wasting mine.
I think not being able to adjust the wire speed is a deal breaker. What's your opinion about this machine?
In my opinion it's great. For 199€ I got a normal MIG welder where it's a lot of automatic stuf. The wire speed increases as you increase the amperage and it does a great job. For the basic work I'm doing it will be a great addition to my garage workshop.
@@MakeAndTest thanks.
199€=$$$dollars is it available in the USA?
$216.41 usd
@@junkworks1 u can buy it in LIDL stores if you have them in the USA
Στην Ελλάδα ποτε θα το
Φέρουν για πώληση ? η τα καλά προϊόντα τα έχουν για άλλες χώρες ?
Merci pour la vidéo bien expliqué
Never buy a cheap welder. Did once and it will never happened again. It fails and It fails rather quick and then you have a brick. A brick that no repair shop wants to deal with. Thank you for the test. I'll stick to some well established local brands.
I did once, worked great till the board went, inverter obviously, good local sets for me like Lincoln or miller parts are available more easily, so in the long rung buy smarter not cheaper..
These have a 3 year gaurentee normally take it back if it breaks and get a refund
@@KimbersKitchenfoodandreviewsThis may be true for some countries. At least in my country they don't replace bigger things and like this one immediately, but are usually sent for service. And then, as has already happened to me, answers came back with excuses why warranty can’t cover this repair because it was not used acording to specification.
Welders like this can quickly become overheated or. overused.
Im not saying that this particular machine totaly sucks. It's more general speaking...
@@daseeyesh in uk where I’m from Lidl who sell them just gave me my money back 3 years later no argument had used product for 3 years too
@@KimbersKitchenfoodandreviews Awesome customer service. 😁
OMG.... where to begin. We all had to begin somewhere, so I began as a young lad doing my apprenticeship in fabrication and, once I had completed that, due to my birth date I ended up having to do another couple of years so I took a advanced welding course and learned crafty stuff like explosion welding with C4 and other things. Can I suggest find out if your local collage does a welding introduction course, because that will give you a really good grounding in the technicalitys and technique of what you are doing with the thing in your hand. It will be a good investment and my companys employed many people who have taken such a course, which only takes a short few weeks, ending up being pretty damned good welders in the process..... what I just watched wasn't.... it was entertaining, but you need to get your technique right and you need someone to show you physically what to do with the thing in your hand so you do it properly.
Thanks for the constructive feedback man. I'll do my best practicing and getting a mentor.
@@MakeAndTest តើដ
តែ ដំ ល៉ៃម៉ុនម៉ានបង
@@MakeAndTest You can also start by using the power of TH-cam. Just a simple search such as How to MIG weld will bring you lots of results from people only to eager to pass on the benefit of their years spent with torch in hand. It also helps seeing others make the same mistakes you realise you make and how they corrected them. For MIG Weldingtipsandtricks is a great source.
For TIG welding weldingtipsandtricks and This Old Tony and 5th Street Fab are all go to's you'll learn a lot from.
Excelente explicación
На тиг режиме есть выбор переменки или постоянного тока ?
Only DC.
Very good job, I was waiting for a video about this welder. Thank you. Can you put a 5 kg wire coil?
Yes, the big coil I put in is 5kg.
Лайк за без лишних слов
It would be very helpful if you explain what you were doing when you were changing those lines around
Pues la (Flux y la mig) se soldán sobre empuje y no jalando pues la función del gas no proteje al material de allí en fuera la máquina se ve Q jala bien
Я мечтаю о таком уже давно,когда же время придёт такое чудо техники приобрести.
Купи Эдон 315
Как по мне так мой в разы лучше!!!
Парксайд это самое дешёвое что есть в Германии. Аккамуляторная аппаратура ещё для дома пойдёт, но на фирму нет смысла, сдохнет быстро
Raw unboxing with a short test, so you can see and hear how the machine works. I am by no means a professional when it comes to welding. I am a hobbyist and this is a machine for all around simple MIG welding you would need in a home garage / workshop. After a bit of more welding with this machine, I'll make a more in depth review of it. Hope you got the information you were loking for.
Which gas did you use for tig welding
Just pure Argon
Or mig gas
Just to try it out🤔
It looks to be good enough machine for the money
I have parkside
Plasma cutter
And it works brilliant i did cut plates 14mm thick
Two wheel rim center about 60cm cuts
And it didn't overheat so i was well surprised 👍👍👍
Nice job showing it
For MIG I used pure CO2 and for TIG I used pure Argon. I also have the plasma cutter and I did a video about it. I'm satisfied with both of the machines. Time will tell how long will they last.
@@maniekmechanik thans man, glad you like it.
When you weld with mig and solid wire with a gas shield push th wire on any material thicker than 3cm. Only use pure argon with tig, and keep your pwr levels around 120 amps for what your doing, only a suggestion mind.
Como fazer para comprar éssa máquina,. obrigado
I only run 1mm flux core through mine - I have other machines to handle the smaller gauge wires. Mine is close to perfection running 1mm wire. It has stupid hours work done as I use it professionally & has never so much as coughed. I am a fan.
Thanks for the info!
I think its the best for arc welding.
Yeah it does a really good job.
@@MakeAndTest last week I bought the arc welder PISG 120 A2 model welds really good I will make a review and later try to convert it to TIG. In Croatia it costed 85.57 Euro.
@@LukaZloglea Nice bargain.
What kind of gas you use for MIG and TIG?
glad you didn't bolt the wings on that thing....sounds like it would've flown away
This is basically an arc welder to be used on steel more than 3mm thick. You could use it on TIG but it is a bit crude and builds up to much heat on stainless. On MIG setting as you could see it was useless using the flux cored wire. Using an Argoshield gas cylinder and normal MIG wire it was better but it still burned very hot on sheet steel. If anyone is thinking of using this on cars, think again as there will be severe distortion. Normally with a MIG you push the molten pool not drag the molten pool. Draging the molten pool when MIG welding, as shown on the video is only used to get a flater weld and to minimize distortion. I suppose the guy in the video was trying to drag it to reduce the heat as on MIG mode it was still burning to hot, just acting like an arc welder. Basically I see it as an arc welder.
Hola tengo una pregunta como van conectados los cables para soldar con alambre pero sin gas
good video,
8:50 - the moment when you realize: flux core sux :D and you would be better off with a good stick welder ;)
11:10 - notice the weld crack; it can happen because no filler was added. So hobby welder guys: always put filler in the puddle.
Thanks for the feedback man. I really appreciate it.
Slow down and push your puddle
Tankls sat u wilkm
Namber
I heard a lot of good stuff about this welder, but you need to work on your welding skills anyway really good and helpfull video keep Up the good work
Thank you. I'll try my best.
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@Mr. Know Itall yi
@@Jk-pr1cb how many random ppl have called u so far?
Good work 👌
Sir, baka may alam kayobkung san ko ipagawa lotus mig 200amp ko. Nagdoble lumabas na flux cored sa nozzle tip nya?
when you seal whith mig you go in front direction dont pull because the gas escape out of the fusion zone
Thank you for your advice. I'll try it next time I weld.
@@MakeAndTest how much price this one dear sir
And how available in saudi Arabia
@@bakhtzadakhan4224 199 in LIDL
Como fazer pra eu comprar uma
I'm a beginner, I really wanted a welding machine, Even an old machine I wanted
Go on Craigslist and find an old Lincoln arc welder for $50... You'll be able to weld whatever you want with that badboy !!!
@@thistledewoutdoors3331 I'm from Brazil
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@@PintuYadav-qz3jy ?
Which gas is used for welding? Lpg/cng?
thank you for this
I want to buy it, but I don't know.
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it's a good machine, but where can I find it? I live in mexico, I'm very interesting about it. Where did you buy it?
I bought it in supermarket LIDL. I saw someone comment that it can be bought online, but I can't find anywhere.
Insane Builds link to site where you can buy it: www.lidl-shop.nl/PARKSIDE-4-in-1-gas-lasapparaat/p100290638?mktc=shopping&gclid=Cj0KCQjw0YD4BRD2ARIsAHwmKVlxqppZzGgeSLzvbraCXBQcMPxgKRfYSO7JW2Z4TdATQDqUpkRKv1QaAjN-EALw_wcB&dt_dynco=BEB6D379A1590D97D43C5EA18CA31990
Thank you sir for the effort we appreciate, i have a question please is it a AC/DC or just a DC welder ? In order to know if we can use it for aluminium as tig !???
Not good enough for aluminum.
Bella macchina,ma quanto viene a costare una bombola di argon?
Шум вентилятора, как от турбины самолета. С ума сойдешь, от этой китайской подделки. В 2017 хотел в Финляндии в Лидл это недоразумение купить. Взял ewm👌👍
Ewm это вещь!!!
Quand on soude au semi auto on pousse la soudure et à l'arc on tire !
Thank you for feedback.
What price
Thanks for video , which price welding machine
Super explain sir👌
Is not a good welding machine. You cannot adjust wire speed separately by the voltage.
This is the best welding machines which i had never seen before . That Is three in one arc welding, mig welding and tig welding. Where can i buy it and do we have it spare parts and how much it costs in Mauritian Rupees...... TheDust
I bought it in LIDL. Can't find it online.
كيف احصل عليها
This is sold in German supermarkets LIDL in Europe. Parkside is their own brand. Usually affordable enough.
Normally the stuff they sell can be produced in China,... so if you look hard enough online you may find the same model sold under different brand.
Very good this machine
Welding set ko mangwana ka parcijar kya h or hama yha cha digarh k najdeek mangwani h total karcha kitana parda ga batao
E.W.M rules :D
Number or adresse
хочу такую игрушку. хочу-хочу.
Хуйня а не игрушка, дома в поле хватит с горой инвектора и цена на них не высокая, а эта игрушка цена от космического Каробл я и нах он нужен в быту, ворота варить, воду, отопления или что!?
@@LG-gb4fl лучше иметь и не нуждаться, чем нуждаться и не иметь.
@@Тупой_Мессия а в чем нуждается, если у вас конструкторное бюро, я не знаю может она вам там пригодится, но в доме где ей работать, металоконструкции инвектор справляется на ура, даже часть о опления им делаю, а есть автоген любой труба водо или газ, подогрев, подрез и многое другое ещё чего бы не хватало я не испытывал сварку тиг что она мне нужна, а валятся мёртвым грузом, это не моё
@@LG-gb4fl Не спорю, но вот мне буквально два дня назад понадобилась сварка полуавтоматом дабы вварить новые пороги в автомобиль. И мне пришлось брать в аренду весь аппарат, ведь у меня самого есть только инвертор. Но вот теперь я всерьез задумался о приобретении хотя-бы полуавтомата, а в идеале и TIG аппарата.
@@Тупой_Мессия вот только для автомобиля, второй полуавтомат, а цена его, я где то смотрел космическая оправдает или нет!!??
C'est impressionnant cet appareil.
Хороший аппарат, только что газ не отключается, только в ручную?
Like 🙋🏻♀️ 😍 😍 🤗
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Abonner plz
Nice welder however you need some welding skills.
I'll do my best next time.
Push the puddle with hardwire don't drag it
@@gurjindersingh199 I'll take your advice and try it next time
@@gurjindersingh199 thought the same while watching
Come on man shes not bad I've seen much worse out of workshops and to be fair he was using a lidl welding plant😂
Hola, parece una excelente relación calidad/precio, gracias por el vídeo, un saludo desde Sevilla, España.
bro may i ask u about mini welder AC 220v 20p 30p ? or 380v ? plz tell me
Parece muy buena máquina, pero con mig se suelda hacia el frente
Tohar Gabru Gabru
No siempre
Verdad 🇧🇷
No sabe soldar
En MiG soldamos hacia adelante, para que el gas proteja la aportación cuando aún esta líquida.
@@MRVERUM-gb3vr
Si,normalmente
Наверно стоит дорога а не 199
Но аппарат хорош
I LOVE how you edit this video. Subbed just for that!!
... what I don't understand is why snip of quite a lot of initial wire... o.O
Thanks for the feedback. I'm glad you like it.
Answer: To make it easier for the viewers to see.
@@MakeAndTest Oh... uhm, kay... But I'm sure they have good eyesight. Y'know, since they're here to learn how to solder... I guess...
·_·
wow wonderful machine very nice to wild it....
how can i get this product
A filo si salda andando in avanti non in dietro come se fosse un elletrodo
Non c'e una regola scritta, avanti ho dietro dipende da cosa si salda, in avanti si salda meglio e chiude qualsiasi bolla ho vuoto che si può creare, tipo contenitori di liquidi, fusti per gas e simile, il resto non serve, poi ognuno fa come crede meglio e abitudine,
,,poi ognuno fa come crede meglio e abitudine'' Questa frase dimostra che non hai ideea di cosa stai parlando. Riguardando la posizione in cui lui mostra il test, il senso di saldatura non puo essere che in avanti. Potresti aver ragione se saldi in altri positioni tipo verticale, ma anche li, non puoi eseguire una saldatura ,,standard'' se usi il metodo ,,,fai come ti pare'' sono delle tecniche e muovimenti precisi. Aggiungo che in orizontale, e piu facile ed esce una saldatura molto piu pulita e di qualita se saldi in avanti, perche dovresti farla al contrario?
Здравствуйте цена на ето сколько ап
199
Нада добавить пересылку ,и время человека которы захочет этим заняться ,а время найти и отослать дождаться перевозчика которы в последнее время опаздует на три и более часа !
Hi. We're got this machine...any contact number
esa maquina me entereza q precio tendrá
Mas,,,gimana cara utk beli Mesin Lasnya? Sy tgl di Timor Leste
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As a qualified welder with great practise I have following notices in connection with this vid: direction of welding in case of MIG/MAG is the opposite direction. Move your welds forwards not backwards.
I was just writing that!😂
Did he ever use a mig welder?😯
@@paolocane8875 Hi Paolo! Yes I did. Inert gases are used in case of rust free materials. Pure Argon need in this case.
@@csabavarady4711 yes, but you should push the welding with mig, not pull... If you pull the welding stay on the top, and are way less stronger.😅