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- Hurricane winds, drought conditions, and...cow fodder?
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The surprising factors are the sirens not working, the water being turned off, the fire chief being out of town, the kids being off from school, the evacuations being told it wasnt time, the plans to turn thw city into a smart city.
But yea lets blame the grass.
DEW, orchestrated fires and blocked exits, no water except she had private fire fighters, donation fraud aka theft, land grab, energy deals, missing kids…. They only found elderly? 25% of kids missing????? The kids were “released” from school while the parents were at work??? OPRAH’s BASEMENT? Imagine releasing kids because of a fire knowing ther parents are at work? Another video said they were “bused” to other schools?? Bused to the basement????? Where are the kids???? I lived there in 2010 when Oprah was having her house built. She had the construction workers sign NDAs. One of them was my babysitter. SEPARATELY from that, while watching videos about this tragedy someone mentioned she has a basement?! Alleged child trafficking in Africa?! WHERE ARE THE CHILDREN???????????? THERE ARE GUARDS THERE NOW? How come no one is talking about the very strategic and symmetrical fires line patterns up and down along the mountains??? DEW video, land grab, The Simpson prediction? How did she have fire fighters before it started and the people had no water? Did you see her video that it’s was so hard handling out supplies and she had to go to the store to buy diapers to donate (instead of donating then?). WHERE ARE THE KIDS?????????
American infrastructure...not sure what tangible effects future plans have on the city right now
Agenda 21.
But yeah yeah let’s lose our minds and go with conspiracy theories.
There's a three burn pattern that people have become aware of, there is a weapon at use here. Better wake up and see it for what it is. We could be next, children stolen for the mountain.
That Guinea grass is sharp too, I used to get small cuts sometimes while walking through it
Wow yeah you activated a super old memory in my head. I had no idea it wasn't native
I would never let a dog run through that stuff for the same reasons.
Oh yeah its called Cogon here
@@placeholdername3907nah it's not cogon
Same with corn. When i was younger i was always covered in cuts from head to toe after a day of playing in the corn field.
As a local I can tell you for sure that there is no guinea grass in that location that caught on fire
Exactly
But there were hillsides full of that grass that were burning in the 80mph winds which quickly spread fire into the residential neighborhood of Lahaina.
No it was a different kind of grass much shorter
Hard to tell with all the fire
Msm is lying again, i will only believe eyewitnesses from now on🤦🏻♂️
I am really sorry for your losses, local reefr, i pray for all of you out there🙏🙏🏼🙏🏾
Are you and yours been taking care for??
It looks to me like 'they' didn't want the people of Lahaina to escape. It seems like they wanted everyone and everything to parish.They blocked the exits, shut the water supply off, didn't sound the alarm, turned the power back on causing power lines to ignite, and announced that the fire was 100% contained leaving residents to feel they were safe when in fact they were not. Men, Women and children were burned alive, many of them because the cops refused to let them leave.
DEW, orchestrated fires and blocked exits, no water except she had private fire fighters, donation fraud aka theft, land grab, energy deals, missing kids…. They only found elderly? 25% of kids missing????? The kids were “released” from school while the parents were at work??? OPRAH’s BASEMENT? Imagine releasing kids because of a fire knowing ther parents are at work? Another video said they were “bused” to other schools?? Bused to the basement????? Where are the kids???? I lived there in 2010 when Oprah was having her house built. She had the construction workers sign NDAs. One of them was my babysitter. SEPARATELY from that, while watching videos about this tragedy someone mentioned she has a basement?! Alleged child trafficking in Africa?! WHERE ARE THE CHILDREN???????????? THERE ARE GUARDS THERE NOW? How come no one is talking about the very strategic and symmetrical fires line patterns up and down along the mountains??? DEW video, land grab, The Simpson prediction? How did she have fire fighters before it started and the people had no water? Did you see her video that it’s was so hard handling out supplies and she had to go to the store to buy diapers to donate (instead of donating then?). WHERE ARE THE KIDS?????????
What?! Where did zou get rhis info
Say it louder for the people in the back!
@@ajmosutra7667you have to did to smaller channels of people who live there, especially since they're being banned
These Smart Meters are not what many people actually think they are. S.M.A.R.T. = Secret Military Armament (in/for) Residential Technologies. They remove the Dots as a Marketing Strategy so people think its a Word instead of an Acroym. Besides being unstable (and health destroying), they're key ignition points for covert military attack.
If anyone is wondering, this area was to be repurposed for a 2030 smart city, before they rejected solar panel placements. And yes, the golf courses and government buildings are safe and effective. And yes, these people won't get their insurance payments because they specifically passed a bill for this forest fire beforehand
Who ever made this video is covering up a mass murder of innocent people and blaming it on grass. Burning grass cannot get hot enough to melt aluminum.
Planned disaster carried out with military precision. Cut off water, cut off cell service, shut off electricity, no alarms given, sending children home from school, barricading roads out. Military precision
What’s the bill they passed
Lahaina is a dry area and has had fires in past years. It burns relatively often but not when winds are blowing like that for days on end.
Those weren't "wildfires". And this wasn't a "natural disaster".
Might want to lay off the conspiracy videos for awhile.
@@twocyclediesel1280might want to exercise nuance
@@tionnam7100 In what way?
@twocyclediesel1280 (supposedly) there is an independent reporter who documents the aftermath by going into the now-affected area. I'm not 100% sure how credible he is. But for the sake of sound judgment, I think it's worth the attention
@@tionnam7100 These “theorists” I’ve seen simply don’t understand how fire works. They are constantly looking at melted aluminum engine parts, molten glass, etc and saying “look!, normal fires can’t get that hot!”
They see cars burned up a few yards from the edge of where the fire was and say there’s no way, it must be lasers or “directed energy weapon”
It’s ridiculous. I built a small forge, I light a small coal fire in it and I’m not going to melt anything more than plastic.
I turn on the squirrel cage blower (about the size of a blow dryer) and in minutes I have 3/4” steel stock to a bright orange. I could melt it if I wanted to. Aluminum and glass would melt quickly.
Ppl don’t understand the effect wind has on fire. Winds that day were upwards of 60 mph. That’s going to create extreme temperatures. But instead they want to start these conspiracies. I just think it’s very disrespectful to the dead, as well as the entities who are being accused of flying around with “directed energy weapons”. If anyone needs to consider nuance, it’s these conspiracy nuts.
Good cover-up story...
Exactly.
Can you please share the real story?
@@nikkif2042 For a long time, the locals have been refusing to sell their property to rich land developers. The fires were set intentionally to rid the locals from that land. It was all planned out, all deliberate.
@@brundlefly262What about the timing of it coinciding with the opening of the Lions Gate? Is there anything to that? I keep seeing people talk about it
@@MTeee3 I don't know much about that. You'll have to ask someone else.
I hope that humans use this and other examples of why you do NOT bring plants and animals to a non-native habitat.
Trust me that's a lesson NOT learned
@@wethepplwhorblackerthanblu6442 unfortunately true
Too late
Hawaii is pretty strict with vegetation brought into the state, so at least in their case, they’re trying for sure
If humans didn’t learn from Australia and it’s ……lord what animal should I call, is it the frogs or the bingo or the…
Now I have forgotten what I was talking about
Oh not bring animals and plant to where they aren’t native. If we didn’t learn from Australia we aren’t going to learn
Direct energy weapon
Don’t spread that conspiracy nonsense, many lives were lost, let’s not get all kooky.
Forensic Arborist
@@phillipweisgerber7925😂😂😂... what?
@@twocyclediesel1280what is the hottest temperature grassfire burns? Housefire?
At what temperature does glass in vehicles melt?
At what temperature does aluminum turn from solid to liquid?
@@wjdyr6261 You’re leaving out an important factor…wind!
I have a small forge I built. I can start a small fire in the coal and, like you said….it’s hot of course but not THAT hot.
Turn on the little squirrel cage blower (size of a hair dryer) and in minutes I can have 3/4” bar stock to bright orange, probably could melt it if I wanted to.
Wind has a tremendous effect. Also, look up the flammable gasses that are released when vegetation burns, that also intensify the heat.
That’s why cars a few yards from the edge of burned vegetation were burned, the high winds intensifying that heat.
AND the state officials who cut off the emergency water supply in the name of equity. You forgot to mention that part for some reason.
They are vox they lie through their teeth
I just read a story about a man who was found laying his body over his golden retriever in the backseat of his car, trying to protect the dog. Both passed away. I literally can't stop crying.
That’s heartbreaking. I probably would have done the same. 😭
Or the teenager found in his bed with his dog, discovered days after fire by his mother. 😭😭
Omg, that breaks my heart
@@sheryl6241yes I heard about that one too
This is the government’s doing. Just like the derailed trains in Ohio. They literally made a movie about the same incident in Ohio months before it really happened (white noise) there trying to take the land. Let’s see how much they pay out to have it. Also see who buys it.. smh it’s sad
Why would they do that to Ohio what’s there they want.
The unsurprising factor is that locals continually refused to sell their land before the fire
Kudzu (a fast growing vine) was brought into Georgia...it is now a menace.
Yeah Kudzu is as invasive of a plant as it gets. Its also edible, so do with that what you will.
Here in the PNW we have English ivy
@@LoveStruckLonerand blackberries
People have been saying that for decades, we are yet to see it take over all of south
@@Cyclone1024you should probably update your research methods. It *has* taken over the South. It is now spreading over the North and Midwest
i feel so bad for people that lived there they didn’t have much choice’s when the fire was happened about a thousand people went missing, 53 dead, and one of there only options was the ocean. Someone said, “It looked like it was raining fire.” that must have been so scary
My stepfather lives there, right outside of Lahaina. Having limited contact with him due to the power being out and reception being hard to get has been terrifying, knowing whats been going on there. My heart goes out to everyone whos been affected by this tragedy. Its truly horrible.
Its 80 dead by now and counting.
I also feel badly for al the innocent defenseless animals who also burned to death like the people and those who are burned and needing treatments. Many of the animals are now suffering and need 24 hour care to have ch😢ance of healing and receiving treatments.
93 and counting now
we are talking about more than 100 people now
Aluminum and glass industry should just change the high heat furnaces to grass and fans. Imagine how much money they would save.
Tbh I knew there was going to be wildfires in the US, but I would have never guess Maui of all places
Before the blaze in Lahaina, there were multiple brush fires in the past week here. A few near the airport that ceased flight operations for an hour or two.
If you live in hawaii maui catching on fire is not surprising its just that this fire was huge
Lot of Maui is desert. Specially thanks to ranching
Wherever there's structures needing eradicated there will be fires... Whatever that means..
Yea wildfires happen every year since earth was a thing. Turns out when you live on a volcanic island first is sometimes a byproduct
They trapped and killed these ppl ... That's why it's a coverup by hundreds of testimony.
I'm praying for maui. I just got out of the hospital last night for 2nd degree burns all over my face because a work accident where a fireball engulfed my face. I can't imagine what they are going through right now.
Wild fires...right
It's incredible that so many still drink the Kool aid 😢
Please note that a majority of the aid and sheltering is being used for tourists, not natives. The natives are being ignored and given the scraps, while tourists are given first priority. That's how backwards the state is, thanks to uncontrolled tourism and unregulated capitalism. Consider donating to funds that actually help the native Hawaiians.
These people are in a crisis? Are you saying tourists don't deserve the same treatment as indigenous people in the midst of a wildfire?
idk but most countries have funds for people abroad under distress
That’s because they want the land, the whole reason the fires were started.
Please name the credible fundraisers, outsiders dont have a clue where to donate🤷🏻♂️
God bless🙏🙏🏼🙏🏾
@@plutus7981he’s saying the natives deserve the same treatment as tourists and aren’t getting it please read better
Invasive plants causing fires huh, that’s a new one on apocalypse bingo
I'm pretty sure next year I'll fill my "WWIII starts" and "nuclear winter" squares
The grass is obviously fuel for fire. Try to keep up. Maybe it would help if you put on your tinfoil cap?
That’s how low your bingo card is mine starts with the Midwest having large fires!
Ya this guy must be a part of them
Let’s talk about why there’s no water to put out the fires? On a fkin island these companies literally took the moisture out the region.
Oh please who are you kidding this is absolutely intentional, now they’re going to rebuild the first digital smart city, now that those annoying historical buildings are out of the way.
What a shock that an invasive species of GRASS is causing problems. Story of my life (I work on prairie restoration and ecology)
colonizer moment
Native Hawaiians brought rats, pigs, chickens, and many native animals became extinct. Oh yeah, native Hawaiians also brought dogs, Polynesians ate dog. Ancient humans everywhere ate many things into extinction.
Native Hawaiians did this😂
@@blazer9547 From wiki: "Both the Polynesians and Europeans cleared native forests and introduced non-indigenous species for agriculture (or by accident), driving many endemic species to extinction."
Hard to accept responsibility, I see.
Grifter moment.
This combination with nuke and harp and d.e.w and apparently they have something else that controls weather
It was our government who did Maui
Oprah should put up some families on the hundreds of Maui acres she owns.
Let’s not forget the trees that US military brought here that falls like match stick dominoes down a landslide when a hurricane hits
Ah yes, the beauty of non native species and human intervention… brilliant
Human intervention couldve also set to treating the land instead of allowing well known tinder plants to outgrow whole plantations worth of land. Just saying
Specifically western intervention in the Hawaiian Kingdom. Aloha!
@@averynewtown2782 why would they do that when they know this causes people property values to drop which will result in a quick land grab.
@@basicbrittani that's not how that works.
@@DemosBrutusit's weird I never see locals complain about this when they walk out of Walmart with groceries and talking on their new iPhone
Well another theory is that people did that, think about it Lahaina is one of the only towns on maui that has historical sights like the 200 year old banyan tree, or a tiny lahaina museum. There where also neighborhoods in Lahaina with locals that refused too sell there houses , so the theory is that governments or contractors did something too start the fire, just saying isn’t it a coincidence that only Lahaina is on fire and not the other sides where the government has already priced locals out. Its not for sure though just a theory!
Bingo
6inches a day?! HOAs must be working overtime!
I’m a grower not a shower
I enjoy the last picture of the entire town burned except the tree. Its greener than green an untouched.
What people on tiktok told me it was a laser from space??? Are you sure?
It might be a combination of the two. The laser from space starting it and directing it, while the strong winds and dried grass fuel it ;)
@@AnimilesYTno, the grass are sentient and highly intelligent creatures who started the wild fire with their big space lasers
The jews back at it with their space lasers 🤬🤬
Tribbles took control of the Enterprise and shot photon torpedoes at Hawaii. Tribbles hate surfers, it’s a known fact.
One thing is for sure, its not what the media says it is, how many times have they been found liars now🤷🏻♂️
I lost count, these fires are not normal, every fireman can tell you that much🤦🏻♂️
God bless the people from maui greatly...🙏🏾🙏🏼🙏
There is footage from a Shell gas station that looks like drone strikes directly into the downtown area.
These drones do exist! Saw on yt last 6mo!
Shooting thermite and other excelerants to START FIRES!
Poor fire management.
This wasn't a wildfire. It was a controlled burn.
Is this why everyone in Maui is saying they were under a microwave weapon attack perpetrated by the US Air/Space Force ?
Praying for Maui!!!! Get goats 🐐 and/or 🐑. Both have helped our area. AND, make that grass illegal!! Give financial incentatives for getting rid of it!!!
They won't only eat the Guinea grass, then they browse on native tree seedlings.
Put people to works by hiring to removes the Grasses by roots.
It's not because of the grass SMH. Powerful people bought land in Hawaii and tried to get the rest of the land cheap by starting man made fires. There were hails of fire hitting 6 locations at the same time. And water was shut off, no emergency siren, children released off schools in midday while parents were still at work and barricades put up at exits. Does the grass do all of that? 😞😭
The hurricane was 500 miles away. Houses were burned to white ash surrounded by untouched trees. Cars melted to running pools of liquid aluminum surrounded by nothing but gravel. Thats no wildfire.
Oh it definitely is a wildfire. Gasoline fires burn far hotter. And in very windy conditions, which recording devices picked up winds of 60mph, the intensity of a flame increases dramatically due to an influx of oxygen supply.
Cars have gasoline🤦
Grass is a great carrier of fire. It provides fuel continuity and it is mostly wind driven, so it can carry fire long distances. Unfortunately, there’s another hidden factor at play here that wasn’t discussed in the video and that is volatiles. There are multiple types of chemicals released by plants during periods of high heat and drought, these chemicals can fill the air around trees, shrubs, etc. Think of it as gasoline vapors. It isn’t the liquid gas that’s flammable, it’s the vapors it releases when exposed to sunlight and heat. These chemicals can cause a chain reaction which once ignited, literally carries fire in the air, and as the fire moves through, there is tons of unburned carbon in the air as well, which continues the fuel continuity needed to ignite everything in a domino effect. This is why there were boats on fire in the water there. Embers can do this, but so can unburned carbon in the air. Wind, drought, and an ignition source is a recipe for severe fire behavior.
Explain why nothing blue caught on fire
This is extremely sad and it breaks my heart to know that so many ppl have lost their homes!
History has grate efect on modern-day, we have seen this eposode befor with cats and mongoose and rats
Black Rock planned this period.
I wish the government would make a massive program to hire people to go and rid the nations states of invasive plants. In order to get it to work properly, it really needs an army of people going through areas and eradicating the invasive plants for several seasons.
I honestly don’t think that’s possible, I’d love to see it but I don’t see how.
And bulldoze ancient native burial sites.
Newsflash it had nothing to do with the grass. This was an attack plain and simple. Evil men caused that fire.
It's very sad how such a beautiful place turned into ashes. One of my friends had a jewelry store and art gallery there but it burned down to the ground.
Please this was no natural disaster
So how does this explain the unburned brown grass in fire areas?
The worst thing that ever happened to Hawaii more specifically Maui is not the grass. It is Joe Biden.
I'm sorry, but this was intentional and is now being savagely covered up.
Yes, grass is well known to burn hot enough to melt aluminum 😊
Well said !
The problem was NOT THE GRASS. IRONICALLY its the GRASS THAT DID NOT BURN...that actually what PROVES this fire DEF was NOT a WILD FIRE !!
You explained a factor. Now what was the starter?
Strong winds from hurricane Dora knocking down old wooden power lines. This is pretty much a known fact as there are many videos of it happening
No, purely man made ineptness.
Wild grass can cause massive damage if set on fire.
Look at the Marshel fire in Colorado
Which is why it was set on fire.
This whole “non native, human introduced” idea is such a tired argument.
I already explained pumping ocean water with added sugar to stop fire, but everyone laughed. It could stop fire and prevent grass from growing in future.
Just Sea water alone works very well. No needs to waste the Sugar. If the Sea Water reached the roots, thus will kills the Grasses.
Love your videos ❤❤❤
Colonialism has a lot to pay for, in many ways, other than the obvious ones most people think of
Yeah native Hawaiians really didn't take care of nature.
Looks like they got colonized again
People started the fire, it happened in Australia as well.
the fire was in concrete jungle suburbia, and they show pics of grass out in the countryside derrr
"What can I say except you're welcome?"
What is actually wrong with you
@@Aquatic25 🎵 for the tides, the sun, the sky
Yet another example of colonization and its devastating long-term effects in action...
Everybody needs like ten fire extinguishers at their house
I’m sure the Guinea grass didn’t help but certainly is not to blame. And this was no “natural disaster”!!
those plants burned so hot it melted metal. amazing
There's one surefire way to prevent wildfires. Just get everybody to rake the forest.
or maybe erase humans completely and world becomes million times better.
lol
K thanks Trump
Humans when disrupting the eco system turns out to have severe consequences: o.0
That may be true in the grass lands, but I don't think that Lahaina houses were surrounded by tall grass. Most probably had manicured lawns.
This kind of theory can't create deadly wildfire...
Let's not forget the record heat and drought, also a manmade problem.
Oh.. I'll bring it here.. what bad should a grass cause? ....
In the hot weather period they dried out & become fuels for fires when lightening hits them & fires started. Then the 80 mph hurricane wind. You got a freak fires breaks out.
Even if there was grass and shrubs in that area, why were the exits blocked
Sounds like the cattle leaving is the problem.
Imagine you brought some grass to plant in your property in the pacific to feed your animals … and hundreds of years later people died because of that.
“your property” that was settler colonialism but okay
Not at ALL suspicious 🤓
Direct Energy Weapon
If you expect us to believe the fires weren't intentional, let's see nobody gain from it - meaning, give back the land to the pervious inhabitants.
Ionic wind. It was manufactured to create plasma fire. Not natural wildfire.
There is not one portion of grass and anywhere that the fire took place not even in the picture that they showed. I would be embarrassed for them to show a picture indicating grass is a contributing factor when there was not any patches of grass actually burned. Who’s paying these guys off?
Ugh. I'm so tired of people who have never been to Maui talking about Maui. I live here. Please stop!
Sound like a great resource for composite building materials. Reduce fire risk, create local employment, build new homes. Win win win!
Didn't see any of that type of grass anywhere around
This was not a wild fire. This was miss management of agricultural land and water.
It was dew
So the question is: why didn’t the local Maui govt control this spread of foreign grasses. Not a priority I guess??? Given the wild fires in California fuel containment has shown to reduce or limit the ferocity of wild fires. Add in high winds and this becomes a disaster. Fires need three components: fuel, oxygen and flame. Take away any one of these and there is no fire. Not sure why govt authorities wait until a disaster happens until they take obvious and easily executable measures to mitigate tragedies such as this.
I think you underestimate how hard it is to deal with invasive species of plant life
That's blaming the victim.
I just went on vacation to Hawaii we had a good week of straight fun but then the power went out because of the fire, the next morning we had to excavate from our condo. We had no gas in our rental car but on Friday we managed to get 5 gallons of gas. Found a room at a hotel where they had power and managed to get on our flight back.
The main culprit is the diversion of water to resorts and at one time the old sugar cane plantations which are not grown there now. Lahaina had lush vegetation before farmers from the U.S. started to divert water for their crops and cut down many Ulu. trees. But grass didn't burn down the whole town.
Missing point here is that guinea grass wasn't growng in the suburban streets of Lahaina & it wasn't burnt in the land & hills surrounding the town.
Yeah, grass is the reason for selective fires that don’t burn painted BLUE cars, Tarps, plastic bins and houses. Good try, though.
OMG fire from grass fields does melt glass!!!
If this fire gets labeled as a “natural disaster” all of the people loose their land.
In the age of deception, Truth becomes the most precious commodity
“non native Hawaiians” is such an oxymoron.
The colonists also brought sharp and pokey plants to the island so the natives would be forced to wear shoes because being barefoot was considered ungodly. Didn't used to need shoes almost anywhere, now everything is pokey here.
Was there grass in the city?
the yt account Hawaii Real Estate explains the ongoing crisis in Lahaina, Maui
Guinea grass is a culprit in bush fires in Trinidad and Tobago too
These grass and not heavily grown in the Lahaina town where the fire started.