I had a brief career as an OTR truck driver and the company I drove for dictated which fuel stops I was required to use based on the best fule costs their routing software could calculate. This was more than a decade ago so it would not be that difficult to adapt it for routing e-trucks. Now, if only they got the low clearance bridges incorporated, I almost hit one their software routed me through ...
This is so exciting, isn't it? Many moons ago I was proud to be the second "female" bus driver in London's Tramway Station at Edmonton and I can still remember the smell and heat of the engine next to me in the lovely old Routemaster, not to mention the taste of the diesel fumes. I can't imagine driving a big ol' vehicle without all of that (or even with that tiddly little steering wheel!) and the sounds and vibration produced! This is going make for some more healthy, less stressed drivers on the road that's for sure, how marvelous is that?! Of course not poisoning the kiddies with the school bus is an added bonus, although in my case it wouldn't have stopped me wanting strangle some of the little blighters... Doing a school run later on in my career is what finished me off for good! 😂
Happy that you got the opportunity to cover this, Nikki! This looks to be a very promising way to reduce pollution, especially in urban areas. E-buses and trucks can't come soon enough!
The irony of an interview about electrical transportation being drowned out by the incessant noise of legacy fossil fueled road and air transport systems...
Talk about regen braking benefits, a logging company who has ordered e-semis goes up the mountain empty and comes down w/tens of thousands of pounds of timber. Regen braking those loads down mountain declines pays for itself in recharge.
I remember an electric mining rig (the big kind of wheelbarrow truck, forgot the actual name in english) that actually already does this. It goes up the mountain or whatever empty and comes down filled with mined rocks/minerals and thus not needing to recharge. It is a genius way to use electric vehicles and regen breaking.
Encouraging news and well done. Would love to know more about the technical specs of the e-trucks, kWh battery capacity, kW charging capacity, km/mile range er charge, km/miles pr kWh etc. all important data to compare with the diesel trucks to show that e-trucks ARE already a competitive option.
Great looking truck, and great looking cab. Also good to know they are actually being driven by truckers to iron the kinks out. Excellent presentation again by Nikki (even with the sound problems).
Charging infrastructure is so important for the EV conversion of our transportation system. I'm glad to see this was taken into account in Joe Biden's infrastructure bill. Now we just need to get'er done, Joe.
These trucks have been delayed 2 years until late 2022. Another example of Issues with conversion and batteries. Hope to see Tesla's new battery technology and efficiency in their semi.
This is a very interesting subject. It’s a shame the audio quality is poor. It reminds me of being in seventh grade and interviewing people and having a similar sound . What a lost opportunity…
Loss of audio reminded me of a case where one of our announcers during our small town county fair had a, rarely granted, interview with Loretta Lynn and forgot to take his tape recorder off of pause. Good times!
Thé biggest problem with electric trucking is fully recharging overnight. This is only possible if youre truck is on side every night. (For the time being every truck must charge every night) If youre truck is not at the depo every night, it has to be able to charge overnight; like in a parkingspot for truckers. But than there has to be a charging station for every electric truck on that parking. And if I see now these days there are even more trucks than parkingspaces, you could think what would happen if electric trucks got realy going. There will be times that a truck arives at a parkingspot, and have no place to charge, and the driver has no time left to get to another parkingspace. So the truck must wait for other trucks to leave for it can get starting to charge. This means more downtime then planned. The only way to solve this is to reserve youre parkingspace; but this means that you have to do this before you know the accualy driving time it will take yuo get to the parkingspace. And in the end you will have to anticipate for slow trafic, and this means youre truck has to stop overnight in a space where it was calculated (with reserve) to stop, even if it did not got stuck in traffic. So yore truck is driving like it is always stuck in traffic. And therefore less efficient. But like said at the start, if youre truck comes in (to the depot) every night, electric is a good possabilaty. Greetings from a truckdriver from Belgium.
Truckers (companies) might have to adapt a bit, but considering the advantages of EV trucks (fuel cost, maintenance, ease of driving at least according the trucker in this vid, ...) it will be more than balanced out. During a large shift like this will be, there always will be a transitioning phase. None of the problems you put forwards are problems that can't be fixed. And overall calculating where you need to stop is not something new, it is already done for EV's now, I don't see why it would be a big problem for trucks. Ofcourse a huge traffic jam might be a problem, however remember EV's will not really lose energy/fuel during a traffic jam (no idling engine), so getting to your expected spot shouldn't be a problem, only the time it will take you, which admittedly might be a problem if you always pushes it close to the max allowed daily driving time, this however might be the same for other drivers caught in the traffic jam after you, opening up spots on earlier stops because other truck drivers can't reach that spot in time. Proper management and real time data will be important, but that shouldn't be a problem these days.
14:05 I wonder how much the batteries warm up suddenly absorbing the energy of a 40 ton truck at highway speed as aggressively as the compression brake on my late uncle’s rig? Driver could probably keep his coffee warm with that! I’m also curious how they handle brakes on the trailer, is there an electric compressor to run the brakes on any normal trailer or does it require a unique trailer with axles that cooperate in the regen? Fantastic piece, thank you!
I'm sitting here waiting for a company to come out with a trailer that is PV solar panel clad, has re-gen braking and rear spoiler wind turbines to reduce drag. A 53 footer is a lot of area, weight and wind to work with.
re: "is there an electric compressor to run the brakes on any normal trailer" great question, logic dictates there would have to be...? and i think i DO hear a bit of that traditional air brake sound in the video as he uses the pedal ("PSST"). i suspect it's just an uprated version of the electric compressors for the tons of aftermarket airbag suspension that already exists. where one group installs to RAISE their Chevy/Ford/Dodge pickups, another group installs to LOWER their Hondas/Hyundais. re: "does it require a unique trailer with axles that cooperate in the regen?" that would be cool, so expensive as to make a grown man cry, but cool.
ikr...? if there's a better argument/use case for the fitting of fake sound emitters i haven't seen it...? errr, or should i say "haven't heard it"...? #QUIETAF
Hi Nikki, if you run an RTX Nvidia graphics card, there is an AI option to clean up the audio. I suggest you check out Linus on LTT on the GeForce noise cancelling. Might help with cleaning up and re-upload. Love the contents, I wish more TH-cam channels are as serious as yours.
Hi Transport Evolved. I start by saying that I enjoy your videos (well, most of them), I think the subjects are well chosen and the scripts are always interesting and on point. I've been watching your channel for about 3 years now. But I need to express some constructive criticism: I am not sure how to say this, but you don't seem very professional. This comes not as a "gotcha" but more of an opinion of a potential client.. Lately it seems to be a whole festival of errors. There is always something happening on your side of business. I know that sometimes things are out of control, but when it happens too often, one starts to wonder if there is any control at all. Now, I am only saying all this because I believe in you, I think you can (and should) do better than this. Trust me, if I didn't, there would be no point in my writing out this comment. I know you are putting a lot of work in this channel, and it shows. But it's not just the amount of effort that matters, it's also how the product looks in the end. I really hope my words do no upset you, I only mean well, and I hope you can appreciate the honesty of a viewer (your client, essentially). In my life I often found that people who lied to my face just to please me didn't care about me at all, while my real friends were the ones who tried to give it to me straight. See you in the next one!
Just as a SIDE NOTE - PGE started as an Electric Trolley Transportation company selling electricity to homes and business as a side product before turning into the electric company
Battery capacity is not inpar with regulcar fuels to haul long-distances. But it has advantages in city delivery, where stop and go is best suited for electric torque movement.
Just a litte feedback, on the woman with the bad audio. If the only thing someone says is superlatives without adding anything informative then don't worry about editing them out.
I'm starting to suspect that battery operated OTR trucks are not going to work. Starting to sound like they're going to start pushing hydrogen for that segment of the industry.
The Portland Energy boss said fully renewable by 2040 but I think that's misleading to investors in FFs, making them think they have way more time than they actually have. The vastly superior economics of renewables is beginning to kick in so it's going to be much sooner than that, much sooner.
She did say 80% by 2030, the last 20% is the most difficult where storage is going to be the main difficulty/necessity, and considering large battery storage is expected to drop enough in price by around 2030-2035, 2040 sounds rather correct for 100% renewable.
@@MDP1702 Renewable energy infrastructure plus storage is already less expensive than fossil fuel and nuclear generation infrastructure and getting cheaper. The growth rate of disruptive technologies is always constant because superior economics becomes the driver and that growth rate strongly suggests complete takeover well before 2040.
@@earthwizz *Renewable energy infrastructure plus storage is already less expensive than fossil fuel and nuclear generation infrastructure* This is unfortunately incorrect at this moment. The systems LCOE of renewables (with or without storage) is still significantly higher than that of fossil fuel and nuclear generation, though the gap is closing fast and should be closed somewhere between 2025-2035 depending on how fast battery prices actually drop and at the point it is still getting the necessary production capacity and placement capacity. If I am wrong (I would be happy for it), please provide me with the data that proves renewables (+storage) system costs are lower.
@@MDP1702 Renewable generation infrastructure is already massively cheaper per kwh than ff or nuclear generation infrastructure, even cheaper when we factor in the lack of an ongoing need for fuel. But that's somewhat offset by the cost and availability of batteries. However battery prices are dropping quite dramatically, so much so that EVs will reach purchase price parity with ICEVs by 2025. One of the reasons for that is that all battery makers are massively increasing their production capacity. For instance Tesla alone will have 4 plants operational by the end of this year, each of which will be amongst the top 10 largest in the world and this is just the beginning. This trend will rapidly accelerate, it's a phenomenon that's at the heart of all tech disruption and it's what we're seeing in the energy transition. The more production capacity increases the more the price lowers creating more demand which, in turn, prompts more production capacity and so it goes, accelerating all the while.
@@earthwizz *Renewable generation infrastructure is already massively cheaper per kwh than ff or nuclear generation infrastructure, even cheaper when we factor in the lack of an ongoing need for fuel.* Yeah, renewables have on average a lower or equal LCOE compared to fossil fuel and nuclear, I never disputed that, I was talking about system LCOE, this also include peripherals otherwise not included like new distribution cables, necessary grid upgrades, needed back-up production, ... the general picture. And in terms of these costs, renewables are still about 100-150 $/MWh more expensive (around 300-400$/MWh for system LCOE for renewables, while for nuclear and fossil fuels it is more like 150-250 $/MWh), though it highly depends on the % of the grid (for example 100% ren+storage is extremely expensive, 30% is probably less expensive or around the same as other possiblities). *so much so that EVs will reach purchase price parity with ICEVs by 2025.* I know, this doesn't change the 2030-2035 prediction for renewables+storage price parity with nuclear and fossil fuels. This rapid growth of storage/drop in price is incalculated. Even taking into account Tesla's expectation (which is much more optimistic than most other sources), they would only reach a battery cost low enough for grid storage around 2026-2028 and this is only for the (new) Tesla batteries. For the rest of the market their prediction (or at least the one they used), it wouldn't reach that necessary price untill around 2030. *One of the reasons for that is that all battery makers are massively increasing their production capacity.* Yeah, and they need those for their EV's, not grid storage. It is even expected that in the coming years there will be a battery shortage for EV's (which is why more and more car makes are starting to build their own production), let alone grid storage. *For instance Tesla alone will have 4 plants operational by the end of this year, each of which will be amongst the top 10 largest in the world and this is just the beginning.* Yes, and Musk has said that the new cell commercial production is still 12-18 months out, that would make it around mid to late 2022 when they just will truly start ramping upt those cells production. To reach their theoretical maximum might be another year or so. And again this production will be necessary just to keep up with expected car and truck sales increase. I am not unaware of what is happening in the world of battery production. The truth is that even with the current plans of automanufacturers they themselves might not have enough capacity if EV adoption really takes off more in the next few years, let alone that they can also provide for the amount of needed grid storage (though V2G could help, but for example Tesla is not going to do this, VW will).
Ironic you say that. That is the bike rack so people with bicycles can take the bus. It folds down and you seat your bike in the tire grooves then you pull up an arm that hooks over a tire and secures the bike into the rack. Take the bus to a bus stop close to your destination and hop off, reversing the process. That rack appears to be for two bicycles. I've seen racks for three before too.
@@Robert-cu9bm ah, right, Mandy did specify long-distance trucks. But it's still the case that only a portion of long-distance truck scenarios are feasible for rail. Needing feasibility of the locations involved, or of the flexibility, or the capital outlay.
@@danmoyer4650 Anyone who is not pursuing full autonomy today will be toast if they do not have it. 40% of the cost of trucking today is the drivers wages. And there are already multiple fully autonomous trucks in testing today. Everyone from Budweiser to the US Postal services is already testing them for companies. Their plan relies on remote control of their trucks, which means you still have drivers sitting in an office somewhere getting paid.
@@davefroman4700 You'd likely have one person 'controlling' multiple trucks which uses autonomous driving, the remote control is likely more to keep an eye on things and making sure everything runs smoothly, not actually driving the truck remotely. Even large systems that use human driven vehicles often still have people managing everything from a remote room to make sure everything runs smoothly (mostly applicable for public transport). Fully automated systems almost always still get managed and controlled from somewhere, be it on or off site. And a satellite link actually sounds more likely, especially once systems like SpaceX's starlink comes online for moving things.
@@MDP1702 And due to how AI develops on its own it will be a year before that lead driver is gone. Its already 10 times safer than human drivers today. Neural Networks are an exponential technology. It does not get better gradually as it learns. 3 years becomes 3 weeks, then it becomes 3 days. The more data you have to feed it? The faster it happens. And Tesla is generating 3 billion miles of data currently every 6 months. It is also an Operating system. Just like Windows. Once you have a really good one? It can be put on anything that has the necessary hardware for it to operate. And all of that hardware is worth pennies today compared to what it was ten years ago. Programming it for a tractor trailer unit is a matter of geometry and trigonometry inputs. And you can bet your left arm that Tesla's new trucks will be gathering data as soon as it hits the road. It would not surprise me in the least if the video they put our awhile back of it running on the track was autonomous.
Great video Nikki. The bus and truck fleet is definitely one of the most polluting and the sooner they go clean the better for everyone. 👍.
Yes, I don't go downtown Chicago very often but having the bus fleet and local box delivery trucks electric would be huge.
I’m in the transport department of Amazon. Highly interested in these. They cannot make them quick enough.
When are those new Rivian units getting delivered? Electric powertrains are just incredibly good at stop and go city traffic.
@@fjalics Rivian says next year for mass production so....
I like how Nikki cadged a ride to make sure these trucks weren't just rolling down hill!
👏🏻👍 😂
I had a brief career as an OTR truck driver and the company I drove for dictated which fuel stops I was required to use based on the best fule costs their routing software could calculate. This was more than a decade ago so it would not be that difficult to adapt it for routing e-trucks. Now, if only they got the low clearance bridges incorporated, I almost hit one their software routed me through ...
This is so exciting, isn't it? Many moons ago I was proud to be the second "female" bus driver in London's Tramway Station at Edmonton and I can still remember the smell and heat of the engine next to me in the lovely old Routemaster, not to mention the taste of the diesel fumes. I can't imagine driving a big ol' vehicle
without all of that (or even with that tiddly little steering wheel!) and the sounds and vibration produced! This is going make for some more healthy, less stressed drivers on the road that's for sure, how marvelous is that?! Of course not poisoning the kiddies with the school bus is an added bonus, although in my case it wouldn't have stopped me wanting strangle some of the little blighters... Doing a school run later on in my career is what finished me off for good! 😂
Happy that you got the opportunity to cover this, Nikki! This looks to be a very promising way to reduce pollution, especially in urban areas. E-buses and trucks can't come soon enough!
I have wanted to convert big bus style motor home to ALL electric and the technology from this would work great!
I've been hoping to convert a classic pick up and a fifth wheel motorhome to all electric. Traction batteries and a power wall
Fair play to Daimler for getting ahead of the curve on this tech. They will surely be rewarded in the coming years as other makers chase to catch up.
This chase is a good thing. I hope they all win then we win too.
I wonder how that eCascadia design would look as a wrap on my Bolt!
It's a product called lumilor electroluminescent coating
That would like cool. Very Tron-ish.
I wonder if I can get the wife on board with that. It's a safety feature!
I would love to test the ecascadia…… peterbilt and Mack also have ev units….. Mack’s is brilliant it’s a trash truck that’s smart!
Cool to see 100% electric big rigs being developed.
The irony of an interview about electrical transportation being drowned out by the incessant noise of legacy fossil fueled road and air transport systems...
Talk about regen braking benefits, a logging company who has ordered e-semis goes up the mountain empty and comes down w/tens of thousands of pounds of timber. Regen braking those loads down mountain declines pays for itself in recharge.
I remember an electric mining rig (the big kind of wheelbarrow truck, forgot the actual name in english) that actually already does this. It goes up the mountain or whatever empty and comes down filled with mined rocks/minerals and thus not needing to recharge. It is a genius way to use electric vehicles and regen breaking.
Encouraging news and well done. Would love to know more about the technical specs of the e-trucks, kWh battery capacity, kW charging capacity, km/mile range er charge, km/miles pr kWh etc. all important data to compare with the diesel trucks to show that e-trucks ARE already a competitive option.
Great looking truck, and great looking cab. Also good to know they are actually being driven by truckers to iron the kinks out. Excellent presentation again by Nikki (even with the sound problems).
Charging infrastructure is so important for the EV conversion of our transportation system. I'm glad to see this was taken into account in Joe Biden's infrastructure bill. Now we just need to get'er done, Joe.
These trucks have been delayed 2 years until late 2022. Another example of Issues with conversion and batteries. Hope to see Tesla's new battery technology and efficiency in their semi.
This is a very interesting subject. It’s a shame the audio quality is poor. It reminds me of being in seventh grade and interviewing people and having a similar sound . What a lost opportunity…
Great piece of reporting AND some excellent good news on the Large Vehicle Market's "move to electrification". Thanks again.
8:49 - USER (KEVIN) FLYNN YOUR SHIP HAS COME IN...!!! (1982 SARK voice)
what about farming hauling seed and product? Going in the field to transfer or load product. Could it appear on "How Farms Work on you tube?
Go Portland General Electric. Sell more product. Take business from the oil companies.
Loss of audio reminded me of a case where one of our announcers during our small town county fair had a, rarely granted, interview with Loretta Lynn and forgot to take his tape recorder off of pause. Good times!
Great to see you cover large vehicle electrification. This is very interesting.
Thé biggest problem with electric trucking is fully recharging overnight.
This is only possible if youre truck is on side every night. (For the time being every truck must charge every night) If youre truck is not at the depo every night, it has to be able to charge overnight; like in a parkingspot for truckers. But than there has to be a charging station for every electric truck on that parking.
And if I see now these days there are even more trucks than parkingspaces, you could think what would happen if electric trucks got realy going.
There will be times that a truck arives at a parkingspot, and have no place to charge, and the driver has no time left to get to another parkingspace. So the truck must wait for other trucks to leave for it can get starting to charge. This means more downtime then planned.
The only way to solve this is to reserve youre parkingspace; but this means that you have to do this before you know the accualy driving time it will take yuo get to the parkingspace. And in the end you will have to anticipate for slow trafic, and this means youre truck has to stop overnight in a space where it was calculated (with reserve) to stop, even if it did not got stuck in traffic.
So yore truck is driving like it is always stuck in traffic. And therefore less efficient.
But like said at the start, if youre truck comes in (to the depot) every night, electric is a good possabilaty.
Greetings from a truckdriver from Belgium.
Truckers (companies) might have to adapt a bit, but considering the advantages of EV trucks (fuel cost, maintenance, ease of driving at least according the trucker in this vid, ...) it will be more than balanced out.
During a large shift like this will be, there always will be a transitioning phase. None of the problems you put forwards are problems that can't be fixed.
And overall calculating where you need to stop is not something new, it is already done for EV's now, I don't see why it would be a big problem for trucks. Ofcourse a huge traffic jam might be a problem, however remember EV's will not really lose energy/fuel during a traffic jam (no idling engine), so getting to your expected spot shouldn't be a problem, only the time it will take you, which admittedly might be a problem if you always pushes it close to the max allowed daily driving time, this however might be the same for other drivers caught in the traffic jam after you, opening up spots on earlier stops because other truck drivers can't reach that spot in time. Proper management and real time data will be important, but that shouldn't be a problem these days.
The sooner we get these trucks and buses on our streets the better for everyone
This is tremendous to see! I’m very excited and optimistic about the future of trucks with companies like this committing to going all electric!
14:05 I wonder how much the batteries warm up suddenly absorbing the energy of a 40 ton truck at highway speed as aggressively as the compression brake on my late uncle’s rig? Driver could probably keep his coffee warm with that! I’m also curious how they handle brakes on the trailer, is there an electric compressor to run the brakes on any normal trailer or does it require a unique trailer with axles that cooperate in the regen? Fantastic piece, thank you!
I'm sitting here waiting for a company to come out with a trailer that is PV solar panel clad, has re-gen braking and rear spoiler wind turbines to reduce drag. A 53 footer is a lot of area, weight and wind to work with.
re: "is there an electric compressor to run the brakes on any normal trailer" great question, logic dictates there would have to be...? and i think i DO hear a bit of that traditional air brake sound in the video as he uses the pedal ("PSST"). i suspect it's just an uprated version of the electric compressors for the tons of aftermarket airbag suspension that already exists. where one group installs to RAISE their Chevy/Ford/Dodge pickups, another group installs to LOWER their Hondas/Hyundais. re: "does it require a unique trailer with axles that cooperate in the regen?" that would be cool, so expensive as to make a grown man cry, but cool.
Great truck. It needs artificial noise so that people hear it.
ikr...? if there's a better argument/use case for the fitting of fake sound emitters i haven't seen it...? errr, or should i say "haven't heard it"...? #QUIETAF
Hi Nikki, if you run an RTX Nvidia graphics card, there is an AI option to clean up the audio. I suggest you check out Linus on LTT on the GeForce noise cancelling. Might help with cleaning up and re-upload.
Love the contents, I wish more TH-cam channels are as serious as yours.
Hi Transport Evolved.
I start by saying that I enjoy your videos (well, most of them), I think the subjects are well chosen and the scripts are always interesting and on point. I've been watching your channel for about 3 years now. But I need to express some constructive criticism:
I am not sure how to say this, but you don't seem very professional. This comes not as a "gotcha" but more of an opinion of a potential client.. Lately it seems to be a whole festival of errors. There is always something happening on your side of business. I know that sometimes things are out of control, but when it happens too often, one starts to wonder if there is any control at all.
Now, I am only saying all this because I believe in you, I think you can (and should) do better than this. Trust me, if I didn't, there would be no point in my writing out this comment.
I know you are putting a lot of work in this channel, and it shows. But it's not just the amount of effort that matters, it's also how the product looks in the end.
I really hope my words do no upset you, I only mean well, and I hope you can appreciate the honesty of a viewer (your client, essentially). In my life I often found that people who lied to my face just to please me didn't care about me at all, while my real friends were the ones who tried to give it to me straight.
See you in the next one!
Just as a SIDE NOTE - PGE started as an Electric Trolley Transportation company selling electricity to homes and business as a side product before turning into the electric company
Battery capacity is not inpar with regulcar fuels to haul long-distances. But it has advantages in city delivery, where stop and go is best suited for electric torque movement.
Slightly weird watching two gesticulators do an interview. A slight excessive level of gesture-based emphasis results :-)
Just a litte feedback, on the woman with the bad audio. If the only thing someone says is superlatives without adding anything informative then don't worry about editing them out.
I'm starting to suspect that battery operated OTR trucks are not going to work. Starting to sound like they're going to start pushing hydrogen for that segment of the industry.
Hyliion hyper truck ERX...coming soon. I believe its going to be a game changer for class 8 EV rigs
What did you learn about the weight of the daycab? And the weight of the truck with the sleeper? That is my biggest concern.
Obviously the sound quality was bad but I could still hear and understand you. Interesting content. Well done. 👍
I want a wrap like that on a Cybrtrk. Plus.....you guys are better than the post-Clarkson TopGear.
The Portland Energy boss said fully renewable by 2040 but I think that's misleading to investors in FFs, making them think they have way more time than they actually have. The vastly superior economics of renewables is beginning to kick in so it's going to be much sooner than that, much sooner.
She did say 80% by 2030, the last 20% is the most difficult where storage is going to be the main difficulty/necessity, and considering large battery storage is expected to drop enough in price by around 2030-2035, 2040 sounds rather correct for 100% renewable.
@@MDP1702 Renewable energy infrastructure plus storage is already less expensive than fossil fuel and nuclear generation infrastructure and getting cheaper. The growth rate of disruptive technologies is always constant because superior economics becomes the driver and that growth rate strongly suggests complete takeover well before 2040.
@@earthwizz *Renewable energy infrastructure plus storage is already less expensive than fossil fuel and nuclear generation infrastructure*
This is unfortunately incorrect at this moment. The systems LCOE of renewables (with or without storage) is still significantly higher than that of fossil fuel and nuclear generation, though the gap is closing fast and should be closed somewhere between 2025-2035 depending on how fast battery prices actually drop and at the point it is still getting the necessary production capacity and placement capacity.
If I am wrong (I would be happy for it), please provide me with the data that proves renewables (+storage) system costs are lower.
@@MDP1702 Renewable generation infrastructure is already massively cheaper per kwh than ff or nuclear generation infrastructure, even cheaper when we factor in the lack of an ongoing need for fuel. But that's somewhat offset by the cost and availability of batteries. However battery prices are dropping quite dramatically, so much so that EVs will reach purchase price parity with ICEVs by 2025. One of the reasons for that is that all battery makers are massively increasing their production capacity. For instance Tesla alone will have 4 plants operational by the end of this year, each of which will be amongst the top 10 largest in the world and this is just the beginning. This trend will rapidly accelerate, it's a phenomenon that's at the heart of all tech disruption and it's what we're seeing in the energy transition. The more production capacity increases the more the price lowers creating more demand which, in turn, prompts more production capacity and so it goes, accelerating all the while.
@@earthwizz
*Renewable generation infrastructure is already massively cheaper per kwh than ff or nuclear generation infrastructure, even cheaper when we factor in the lack of an ongoing need for fuel.*
Yeah, renewables have on average a lower or equal LCOE compared to fossil fuel and nuclear, I never disputed that, I was talking about system LCOE, this also include peripherals otherwise not included like new distribution cables, necessary grid upgrades, needed back-up production, ... the general picture. And in terms of these costs, renewables are still about 100-150 $/MWh more expensive (around 300-400$/MWh for system LCOE for renewables, while for nuclear and fossil fuels it is more like 150-250 $/MWh), though it highly depends on the % of the grid (for example 100% ren+storage is extremely expensive, 30% is probably less expensive or around the same as other possiblities).
*so much so that EVs will reach purchase price parity with ICEVs by 2025.*
I know, this doesn't change the 2030-2035 prediction for renewables+storage price parity with nuclear and fossil fuels. This rapid growth of storage/drop in price is incalculated.
Even taking into account Tesla's expectation (which is much more optimistic than most other sources), they would only reach a battery cost low enough for grid storage around 2026-2028 and this is only for the (new) Tesla batteries. For the rest of the market their prediction (or at least the one they used), it wouldn't reach that necessary price untill around 2030.
*One of the reasons for that is that all battery makers are massively increasing their production capacity.*
Yeah, and they need those for their EV's, not grid storage. It is even expected that in the coming years there will be a battery shortage for EV's (which is why more and more car makes are starting to build their own production), let alone grid storage.
*For instance Tesla alone will have 4 plants operational by the end of this year, each of which will be amongst the top 10 largest in the world and this is just the beginning.*
Yes, and Musk has said that the new cell commercial production is still 12-18 months out, that would make it around mid to late 2022 when they just will truly start ramping upt those cells production. To reach their theoretical maximum might be another year or so. And again this production will be necessary just to keep up with expected car and truck sales increase.
I am not unaware of what is happening in the world of battery production. The truth is that even with the current plans of automanufacturers they themselves might not have enough capacity if EV adoption really takes off more in the next few years, let alone that they can also provide for the amount of needed grid storage (though V2G could help, but for example Tesla is not going to do this, VW will).
Excellent report🙏👊
I just imagine how much more quite traffic would be without all the semi noise.
the children getting off the buss no more diesel smog doses as the bus takes off.
Tron wrap?
I thought that was regulation for EV's. Can't have them looking normal, you need everyone to look at you.
Q: Tron wrap? A: yes.
5:15 "100% zero carbon". Still zero! :-)
7:20 Nice bus, but WTF is the contraption attached to the front? I wouldn’t want to be the cyclist to encounter that!😵
Ironic you say that. That is the bike rack so people with bicycles can take the bus. It folds down and you seat your bike in the tire grooves then you pull up an arm that hooks over a tire and secures the bike into the rack. Take the bus to a bus stop close to your destination and hop off, reversing the process. That rack appears to be for two bicycles. I've seen racks for three before too.
So nice giant e trucks in poland eu.
Great show Nikki, thanks!
Specs of the chargers?
Promising stuff.
Why the masks?
Lorries!
Driverless long distance trucks... sounds a little like a railroad?
Well, in a way it is -- it's just the rails are in software!
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Rails are more efficient and better for the environment.
@@Robert-cu9bm But only for scenarios for which rail is viable. Amazon packages are not going to be arriving at my place by rail any time soon!
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When was the last time a 18 wheeler delivered your parcels.
@@Robert-cu9bm ah, right, Mandy did specify long-distance trucks. But it's still the case that only a portion of long-distance truck scenarios are feasible for rail. Needing feasibility of the locations involved, or of the flexibility, or the capital outlay.
Bravo! Great interview, great new initiative.
I guess Daimler plans on going out of business of paying someone else for technology.
How so? Please explain.
@@danmoyer4650 Anyone who is not pursuing full autonomy today will be toast if they do not have it. 40% of the cost of trucking today is the drivers wages. And there are already multiple fully autonomous trucks in testing today. Everyone from Budweiser to the US Postal services is already testing them for companies. Their plan relies on remote control of their trucks, which means you still have drivers sitting in an office somewhere getting paid.
Not to mention if just one 5G transmitter goes down along the route you lose control of the truck.
@@davefroman4700 You'd likely have one person 'controlling' multiple trucks which uses autonomous driving, the remote control is likely more to keep an eye on things and making sure everything runs smoothly, not actually driving the truck remotely. Even large systems that use human driven vehicles often still have people managing everything from a remote room to make sure everything runs smoothly (mostly applicable for public transport). Fully automated systems almost always still get managed and controlled from somewhere, be it on or off site.
And a satellite link actually sounds more likely, especially once systems like SpaceX's starlink comes online for moving things.
@@MDP1702 And due to how AI develops on its own it will be a year before that lead driver is gone. Its already 10 times safer than human drivers today. Neural Networks are an exponential technology. It does not get better gradually as it learns. 3 years becomes 3 weeks, then it becomes 3 days. The more data you have to feed it? The faster it happens. And Tesla is generating 3 billion miles of data currently every 6 months. It is also an Operating system. Just like Windows. Once you have a really good one? It can be put on anything that has the necessary hardware for it to operate. And all of that hardware is worth pennies today compared to what it was ten years ago. Programming it for a tractor trailer unit is a matter of geometry and trigonometry inputs. And you can bet your left arm that Tesla's new trucks will be gathering data as soon as it hits the road. It would not surprise me in the least if the video they put our awhile back of it running on the track was autonomous.