Please do a Maru mini-series. Also consider a second mini-series where you try to apply what you're learning and what builds you see from Maru. Call it "Just Play Like Maru."
no offence to the other casters -- they are great but this! this is what a weakass dia Terran like me really needs! A god like Terran like Uthermal explains why Maru did what he did is so fucking good So fucking good
Love your analysis so much, uThermal. I've been playing Starcraft since Brood War and it never gets old. This game is like chess and FPS combined, such an adrenaline rush. For me, this is better than any kind of television or sports. Esports is the future and we are living it!
Hi Marc, I've been thinking about Maru's game 1 v Serral and this game. Both were played defensively, both took extremely cost efficient trades throughout. But during both, his opponents had nice banks throughout most of the game. I was trying to figure out why this wasn't a game losing problem. The question is what happens at the end of the game, when Maru takes his last base! Due to 10+ OC's, Maru can create a 3 base mineral income on 1 single base with MULEs which don't receive the inefficient mining penalty. We've all known about the MULE hammer since WoL, but I think this take on the game is basically a set up to get to the point in time when Maru has to defend one single base, while Protoss or Zerg have mined out their bases and are now on a less than 3 base mineral income with a depleting bank. This, coupled with the fact that due to low SCV count Maru can both have a maxed out army, equivalent to his opponent's supply, while also having the strike potential of Nukes and the Bio hit squad. For about 40 supply (the missing SCVs) Maru has essentially two small armies which can do as much damage as his opponent's hit squads without depleting his main army supply count. It's basically playing for the check mate at the end of the game when each player has to defend a certain part of the map: Maru 1 base, his opponents 2-3 bases spread apart.
My first Terran TH-camr was BeastQT, and obviously I didn't learn from that guy, he was good though but he's video is not as entertaining and education compare to yours. THANK YOU.
I'm so confused. For years I played like that and it was considered as "noob way", "hahaha what are you doing, go end the game", "he always defends and makes tournaments go 1 hour". I remember some tournaments even had a rule that the admin can stop the game if he thinks that it goes for too long and makes bracket stalemate for too long. All of this made me lose confidence in myself, forced me to learn other styles like Bomber's SCV pulls or marine-tank parades, eventually leading to me being a worse and worse player, which obviously ended up in me retiring being full of regrets. Now, years later I randomly check what's happening in the SC2 world and I see the best Terran doing the same thing. I have mixed feelings.
I just lost a game like this on the ladder and came back to check this video, turns out I simply just don't have enough AMP to control this kind of army.
Lategame terran is so fucking hard. The goal of protoss is to mass overpowered Amove units with like one spell unit. The goal of the terran is to get more and more units with spells (siege from libs and tanks are a spell, you need and action to setup). This is so hard to attack and siege tank and libs + emp + stim very fast without a mistake. Where the protoss launch his interceptors, go back and eventually blink to snipe vikings. Under a certain level it's pretty unfair
prachtig om te zien, zo weinig tot geen fouten, iets waar ik heel van kan leren. De verdediging is zo goed en breed verspreid, overal turrets en units, protos had geen kans om er doorheen te komen.
I will take note of this game. Also look how much more of a bank that toss player has. That also tilts me in this match up. I mean why...... Maybe my understanding of the match up is so limited that it doesnt make since
Awesome! Can you help us on how to manage chargelots all-ins at like 5:00 or 6:00? I see a lot of them on the ladders and I never know how best to manage it
really like the channel! pro level terran players are awesome to watch. For the pros it is easy to be good but only you, harstem, and a few others have made it fun to watch.
I love how Maru is switching tactics... I remember a year back or two, when *He* was only proxying in Korea's GSL. Now though, *He* is a macro efficiency machine and tries to dry out the map's resources. Still looses to Serral eventually however.. So we see that even *He* seems to be following a specific playstyle and sticking with it 100% regardless of how the game develops. For example there were moments in this game with Trap where *He* had no vision of the Protoss bases for long time, and that's always a bit of a gamble. So in my mind - even Maru gets to be a bit imperfect.. but just enough to make it enjoyable watching *Him* in action! Just like the race *He* plays.... Go Terrans!! (Ps. Uthermal dont be sad about macro game - The micro *You* are capable of doing (like a sexy reapers all in) I am sure even *He* would be jealous of)
How do I sent you a tip i would like to support the channel i am a huge starcraft fan i dont play enough to be any good but i enjoy playing when time allows it and I only play terran so i would like to tip and say thanks .
Hey did you see the first TY vs Dream game in their gsl group last week? TY's army movement and interceptions were actually amazing to watch. Maybe that could be a fun game to analyse?
Why was trap so eager to attack? I remember a maru vs parting game with the similar style from both players but it didn't go as well as it did this time xD
I think a lot of it depended on the map, Maru seemed to know how to defend on this map perfectly while only needing 2 tank squads. Against parting it was on Deathaura which is a lot tougher
hey thermy, please could you make a guide on how to turtle? I really want to try that but can't get a good enough build, the opponent suddenly takes 3 bases, and I don't know how to deal damage. Would really appreciate it!
Maru is the biggest nuke spammer ever, never seen anyone use nuke as much as him, in the GSL S3 r16 vs parting he used as many nukes as other terran use their entire carreers, 5 nukes to destroy a base
Just 7 unupgraded tanks and a bunch of turrets is all you need to deal with the two most annoying things in the game: blink DTs and disruptors. Well I guess you also have to be Maru to make it work 😁
Can you please start a second channel called 'wide-marc' and upload the exact same videos just with the 'wide-marc' camera settings? (both recorded at the same time and with same seriousness)
what if marus secret is that he listens to yuki during tournament matches?if i were you, i would try this just in case it works next time you play a best of three.
For some reason I wasn't able to get the twitter and matcherino on screen but please follow and support AlphaX guys
@u h :(
Please do a Maru mini-series. Also consider a second mini-series where you try to apply what you're learning and what builds you see from Maru. Call it "Just Play Like Maru."
Might steal this
@@uThermal Yours to keep, buddy, just keep up the good content.
I thought Maru was his own race but these POV vids are finally proof that he's playing the same Terran.
21:16 - "If he didn't see that army" should be "If he hadn't seen that army".
This is so sick. Loved this analysis.
no offence to the other casters -- they are great
but this! this is what a weakass dia Terran like me really needs!
A god like Terran like Uthermal explains why Maru did what he did is so fucking good
So fucking good
Wow this is really in depth analysis, Love the vid and need more Maru content.
Love your analysis so much, uThermal. I've been playing Starcraft since Brood War and it never gets old. This game is like chess and FPS combined, such an adrenaline rush. For me, this is better than any kind of television or sports. Esports is the future and we are living it!
Thank you, a real game analysis from a passionate terran player :) enjoying more your vids than any other commentators or youtubers. keep sharing
Mvp raven survived through the whole game
Yeah somehow lol
My one always dies before using any of the energies...
I was about to comment this. The cherry on top for his efficiency
Textbook “just play like maru lol”
Coach:
Me: "Coach... this is just Maru's autobiography."
Coach: *"Always has been."*
JUST PLAY LIKE ME
Really love how enthusiastic Thermy is in this video. Playing Terran can be a dark place in general so it’s important to have heroes.
Hi Marc, I've been thinking about Maru's game 1 v Serral and this game. Both were played defensively, both took extremely cost efficient trades throughout. But during both, his opponents had nice banks throughout most of the game. I was trying to figure out why this wasn't a game losing problem. The question is what happens at the end of the game, when Maru takes his last base! Due to 10+ OC's, Maru can create a 3 base mineral income on 1 single base with MULEs which don't receive the inefficient mining penalty. We've all known about the MULE hammer since WoL, but I think this take on the game is basically a set up to get to the point in time when Maru has to defend one single base, while Protoss or Zerg have mined out their bases and are now on a less than 3 base mineral income with a depleting bank. This, coupled with the fact that due to low SCV count Maru can both have a maxed out army, equivalent to his opponent's supply, while also having the strike potential of Nukes and the Bio hit squad. For about 40 supply (the missing SCVs) Maru has essentially two small armies which can do as much damage as his opponent's hit squads without depleting his main army supply count. It's basically playing for the check mate at the end of the game when each player has to defend a certain part of the map: Maru 1 base, his opponents 2-3 bases spread apart.
Thanks for this analysis ! I love so much this kind of video !
My first Terran TH-camr was BeastQT, and obviously I didn't learn from that guy, he was good though but he's video is not as entertaining and education compare to yours. THANK YOU.
Great video and explanation. Thanks uThermal!!
I won my first TvP after watching your analysis, uThermal, no joke! So cool, thanks!
this is some of your best content. yess please the mini series!
I'm so confused. For years I played like that and it was considered as "noob way", "hahaha what are you doing, go end the game", "he always defends and makes tournaments go 1 hour". I remember some tournaments even had a rule that the admin can stop the game if he thinks that it goes for too long and makes bracket stalemate for too long. All of this made me lose confidence in myself, forced me to learn other styles like Bomber's SCV pulls or marine-tank parades, eventually leading to me being a worse and worse player, which obviously ended up in me retiring being full of regrets. Now, years later I randomly check what's happening in the SC2 world and I see the best Terran doing the same thing. I have mixed feelings.
Bronze turtle mech is not the same
@@risperidonacomprimido2605 well, if you knew who am I you would've been surprised.
Thanks uThemal, you're a true Terran race carrier!
We need Cure PoV now! The joy of widowmines. Great vids!
Wow... That was amazing!
Prob my favorite tvp ever. This is beautiful!
Fucking loving these POV analysis, especially terran late game! Excited for the other games
I just lost a game like this on the ladder and came back to check this video, turns out I simply just don't have enough AMP to control this kind of army.
what a god (maru and thermy)
And he just did it again last night. Reverse sweep. Big brain
As a fellow Terran @30:12...pretty much sums things up. #ivegottalongwaytogo
yeah man..
MARU - GOSU .Great turtle stlye. Great analysis
Lategame terran is so fucking hard. The goal of protoss is to mass overpowered Amove units with like one spell unit. The goal of the terran is to get more and more units with spells (siege from libs and tanks are a spell, you need and action to setup).
This is so hard to attack and siege tank and libs + emp + stim very fast without a mistake. Where the protoss launch his interceptors, go back and eventually blink to snipe vikings.
Under a certain level it's pretty unfair
prachtig om te zien, zo weinig tot geen fouten, iets waar ik heel van kan leren.
De verdediging is zo goed en breed verspreid, overal turrets en units, protos had geen kans om er doorheen te komen.
I will take note of this game. Also look how much more of a bank that toss player has. That also tilts me in this match up. I mean why...... Maybe my understanding of the match up is so limited that it doesnt make since
They have such big of a bank because both players are maxed out, Maru is investing hard in static defense and staying on a lower amount of bases
Awesome! Can you help us on how to manage chargelots all-ins at like 5:00 or 6:00? I see a lot of them on the ladders and I never know how best to manage it
I have a private lesson about charge allin ^^
@@uThermal Oh yes, that's right - sorry I had missed it :) - will be paying good attention
really like the channel! pro level terran players are awesome to watch. For the pros it is easy to be good but only you, harstem, and a few others have made it fun to watch.
So turtle in the key to late game tvp! Amazing analysis on my worst match up, make more of them please
U awesome bro. Thks for the excellent sc2 content!
U R THE BEST UTHERMAL, THE GAME IS F+CKING ALIVE!
Just play like Maru, got it chief. Great content tho always love a late game TvP that somehow wins. Vintage Taeja-esque
After looking at this replay again. I wonder if this could work with going cyclons instead of bio???? gas could be a limiting factor
Cyclones are pretty bad xD
@@uThermal Yep it doesnt work. Ive actually never fscene a play style that could work consistently in PvT... back to the drawing board.
@@darthkermit4617 standard macro works pretty well
first he had the oc on 3 then in late he switched it to 8 and bound the viking to the 3. that is important :D
U definitely need to do this with the serral maru replays. Really good
Thanks a lot I'm learn so much with your videos, i try to improve my Game with terran
Great content!! Thx
Where you get the replays can you say me please dear Termy?
You will find out 30 seconds into the video uwu
@@uThermal thank you so much.
Question is... Who is up there that can match Maru in the late game? I reckon Trap (ex teammate), Stats, Serral (Of course), TY (TvT archrival)
I love how Maru is switching tactics... I remember a year back or two, when *He* was only proxying in Korea's GSL. Now though, *He* is a macro efficiency machine and tries to dry out the map's resources. Still looses to Serral eventually however.. So we see that even *He* seems to be following a specific playstyle and sticking with it 100% regardless of how the game develops. For example there were moments in this game with Trap where *He* had no vision of the Protoss bases for long time, and that's always a bit of a gamble. So in my mind - even Maru gets to be a bit imperfect.. but just enough to make it enjoyable watching *Him* in action! Just like the race *He* plays.... Go Terrans!!
(Ps. Uthermal dont be sad about macro game - The micro *You* are capable of doing (like a sexy reapers all in) I am sure even *He* would be jealous of)
Maru makes terran look like protoss late game. And he also make protoss look like pleb terran like us
Im Diamond Terran player, almost quiting T, switching to OP Protosso or OP Zerg. But when i watch a game like that, i start to think: Its possible!
Hope is dangerous
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I usually take donations via my (almost daily) stream channel :D thank you very much www.twitch.tv/liquidthermy/about
Hey did you see the first TY vs Dream game in their gsl group last week? TY's army movement and interceptions were actually amazing to watch. Maybe that could be a fun game to analyse?
Gsl doesn't give out replays
Hey thermy can you analyze more maru stuffs. maybe where he goes aggresive vs a protoss or maybe a tvt i dunno
Awesome video
You ain't seen nothing yet, you should check out Maru's INSANE late game TvP vs Parting!!
Why was trap so eager to attack? I remember a maru vs parting game with the similar style from both players but it didn't go as well as it did this time xD
I think a lot of it depended on the map, Maru seemed to know how to defend on this map perfectly while only needing 2 tank squads. Against parting it was on Deathaura which is a lot tougher
DADDDYY♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
hey thermy, please could you make a guide on how to turtle? I really want to try that but can't get a good enough build, the opponent suddenly takes 3 bases, and I don't know how to deal damage. Would really appreciate it!
Why is Maru playing like he-who-will-not-be-named.
Avilo? HAHAHAHAHHAAHAHA
100% if there was a prism in my main, it would have been f2 + a click lol
Maru is the biggest nuke spammer ever, never seen anyone use nuke as much as him, in the GSL S3 r16 vs parting he used as many nukes as other terran use their entire carreers, 5 nukes to destroy a base
Just 7 unupgraded tanks and a bunch of turrets is all you need to deal with the two most annoying things in the game: blink DTs and disruptors.
Well I guess you also have to be Maru to make it work 😁
How come trap didnt make any high templars
I relly love defensive style with bio into late game, it's so cool, but you need to be brave as Maru to play this style :D
Incredible
Love u Thermy great video
What do u think if Trap added 2-3 tempest for siege and didnt attack that way?
Or just add some storms to fry all these vikings.
Trap could, however, given how quick Maru EMP and flank him. Trap didn't feel the storm that game.
Storms would have been good I think so yeah, I think Trap just wanted to play with a fast army because of all the tanks
A Simp for our Lord and Savior
Hey uThermal! Sorry for accidentally dropping in on you in your discord. Keep up the good work
HOTS maru was why i started playing sc2 and terran!
I was a big fan too in early hots :D
MaruGod
Can you please start a second channel called 'wide-marc' and upload the exact same videos just with the 'wide-marc' camera settings? (both recorded at the same time and with same seriousness)
ahahahaha
how to get panic a terran player?
send warp prism
#facts
what if marus secret is that he listens to yuki during tournament matches?if i were you, i would try this just in case it works next time you play a best of three.
reported
Yeee boiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
Please teach us how to improve. I play for 5 years and do not pass the diamond league.
Git gud noob
@@otalgebra4436 Why are u so salt baby?
@@Guilherme38101 Just a joke baby
This is why i always saied protosso OP vs Terran it's unbalanced. To play equaly, same to same, u need be a Corean genius.
Im just from Brazil, and Kelazhur cant help me anymore.
OwO
UwU
Problem is:
Every ML protoss can play like Trap in this game easily
Only Maru can play like in this game
Sad but true :(
I mean you are delusional if you think all protosses=trap lol
Trap > Random ML protoss in TVP by 50%
Maru > Random ML terran in TVP by 980%
i think the real key to victory is making 13 marauders and 37 marines.
I keep noticing people click the same unit or building sevenhundred times, almost looks like they have OCD or something
And he just did it again last night. Reverse sweep. Big brain