Why Ludwig Left Twitch

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  • @E-Ma
    @E-Ma ปีที่แล้ว +43622

    Ludwig’s story will forever hurt twitch more then him actually leaving

    • @-Sergioxx-
      @-Sergioxx- ปีที่แล้ว

      Twitch literally doesn't give a fuck did you even watch the video

    • @E-Ma
      @E-Ma ปีที่แล้ว +948

      @@-Sergioxx- yeah exactly, twitch's reputation will always be hurt by his story

    • @KKokichi
      @KKokichi ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Yes

    • @DudeMcGuybro
      @DudeMcGuybro ปีที่แล้ว +1230

      I asked Twitch if I could end my affiliate ship since it was interfering with my disability income. I was making too much to be on disability, but not more than I would get on disability, so I had to quit the affiliate partnership, not Twitch all together. I just wanted to end the agreement when the time came, and they closed my whole account, and kept all of my earnings, which was like 250 bucks at the time. They literally banned me for being disabled and asking to not be paid... like what the fuck?

    • @lifeasrini
      @lifeasrini ปีที่แล้ว +176

      ​@@DudeMcGuybro oh that's shitty ... Do you stream on TH-cam now? I hope you've found somewhere to have fun at least ... 💐🎄

  • @portalway
    @portalway ปีที่แล้ว +22558

    I’ve heard a similar thing with lots of creators, who realised TH-cam fought for them to stay and twitch just waved goodbye

    • @jeremyroberts8822
      @jeremyroberts8822 ปีที่แล้ว +437

      Yep timthetatman said the same thing about how he felt they really fought for him and wanted him to join their platform and twitch just didn’t care much

    • @Kokivfx
      @Kokivfx ปีที่แล้ว +153

      @@dr.irisplaysI love how you misspelled misspel😂 no hate it was just funny in the context

    • @aandyherr817
      @aandyherr817 ปีที่แล้ว +141

      Yes. Waving goodbye to every creator ever just because you can is a bad business model
      It can be cool, look like a chad move in the short term, but when push comes to shove if people actually up and leave for money and not for prestige… yeah, twitch will suffer lol
      I watch twitch still but I also find myself watching more Live TH-cam channels, chat could be better but I’m not exclusive to twitch… so twitch ain’t special. It acts special, acts entitled, acts stupid, but it’s not special.
      Twitch can be killed within 2 years if they act dumb

    • @darley400
      @darley400 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      @@Kokivfxanother funny comment how you misspelled “misspell” in a comment replying to someone who misspelled misspelled

    • @MrKrisrey
      @MrKrisrey ปีที่แล้ว +16

      ​@@darley400 I was about to point that out too!

  • @OddsYT
    @OddsYT ปีที่แล้ว +5321

    I've heard Ludwig tell this story a million times and I don't even watch Ludwig but I absolutely love listening to it, It's such a nice story that can be applied to so many corners of life

    • @testing123.
      @testing123. ปีที่แล้ว +7

      True

    • @QCSPro
      @QCSPro 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Great point! Btw if you have some spare time, its worth watching ludwig, he is funny and really cares about his comunity and it shows.

    • @snally6111
      @snally6111 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Why? The story boils down to youtube gave him more money, so he went with them.

    • @evannguyen5611
      @evannguyen5611 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      @@snally6111ngl I don’t know if you understood any of the story

    • @snally6111
      @snally6111 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@evannguyen5611 i dont and i dont care

  • @jaxgem1236
    @jaxgem1236 ปีที่แล้ว +2635

    Brand loyalty is the dumbest shit. Don't label yourself just go with the place that offers the best service.

    • @ML-yn9yu
      @ML-yn9yu ปีที่แล้ว +6

      best service/ most money

    • @Tea12515
      @Tea12515 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      This is a bad idea, you're going to get into some stressful and boring 9-5 office job when the other company is something you truly enjoy, though it gives 75% or so of the better job, unless you're really desperate, just go for fun and sustainable.

    • @You-are-definitely-right-but
      @You-are-definitely-right-but ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ML-yn9yu I feel like if both give steady income, even if the one that sucks ass gives more you should still go with the one you love

    • @Niggalodeon323
      @Niggalodeon323 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@You-are-definitely-right-but why would you love someone that only sees you as a walking dollar sign?? 🤨

    • @elpatoempatado2404
      @elpatoempatado2404 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@Niggalodeon323 your reply was quite good ngl

  • @GeneralChrisGaming
    @GeneralChrisGaming ปีที่แล้ว +12621

    TH-cam makes you feel your part of something
    Twitch makes you feel like your being used for something.

    • @fowleyuhger842
      @fowleyuhger842 ปีที่แล้ว +200

      Twitch is dying faster than satellite tv

    • @D3adR0ck3r
      @D3adR0ck3r ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fowleyuhger842 You are the best type of person to take financial advice wrong. Whatever the opposite of your dumb claim is probably worth investing in because you are so wrong. Just look at a site like twitch tracker to prove it.

    • @kanoaikawach
      @kanoaikawach ปีที่แล้ว +4

      lol

    • @fluffy3049
      @fluffy3049 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Feel you're a* part or you are a* part. Also, you're being used*.
      I'm sorry, it would just get your point across better. 😅

    • @RenDroplet
      @RenDroplet ปีที่แล้ว +12

      ​@@fluffy3049 Jesus, don't need to shot him again, he's already dead man.

  • @fireredgaming1
    @fireredgaming1 ปีที่แล้ว +4779

    TH-cam: Noooo come backkkkk 🥺
    Twitch: Yeah whatever loser

    • @aandyherr817
      @aandyherr817 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And that son is how twitch killed its self… by being a arrogant prick.
      It’s one thing saying bye AFTER someone makes too high demands but just saying bye because they’ve asked one time in years?
      Twitch may be riding high, but like trump they’ll fall… and fall hard. Twitter failed miserably and is going to go bankrupt soon aswell.

    • @dusk2308
      @dusk2308 ปีที่แล้ว +338

      youtube: aww dude well i am sorry that i couldn't help change you mind but i completely respect your decision to stay on twitch
      twitch: see you later stinky

    • @Attickk
      @Attickk ปีที่แล้ว +20

      ​@@dusk2308 exactly

    • @treeshynyc5586
      @treeshynyc5586 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      cringe

    • @Dizastermaster.
      @Dizastermaster. ปีที่แล้ว +41

      TH-cam value: 28.8 billion
      Twitch value: 2.6 billion

  • @theshape3988
    @theshape3988 ปีที่แล้ว +413

    I find it crazy that youtube does that for Ludwig but completely ignores their creators who have been uploading for years

    • @splashbrothers_1686
      @splashbrothers_1686 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      youtube does that for a lot of creaters bruh pay attention

    • @Felipe_Ribeir0
      @Felipe_Ribeir0 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      Its not about time, but performance. You need to do millions of views per month and a lot of potential to have this type of treatment.

    • @Sound_Spark
      @Sound_Spark 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      In the long run their no different then twitch, at the end of the day it's about what people they can earn the most money from.

    • @alzhanvoidsansado
      @alzhanvoidsansado 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They were smarter here, not kinder. Ludwig is a big cash cow, and they'd be stupid to not get him on their side. Your random small streamer however is pretty worthless, they don't need to make any enticing offers.

    • @Tyshkevich
      @Tyshkevich 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Once you get big enough you get your own TH-cam guy you can call pretty much any time of the day. That's service

  • @AselectirYT
    @AselectirYT ปีที่แล้ว +95

    In the end companies use you, but what matters is if they give something in return.

  • @Hexra_
    @Hexra_ ปีที่แล้ว +22162

    TH-cam fails at creator interaction but Twitch doesn't even have creator interaction. TH-cam at least tries.

    • @lmaokai392
      @lmaokai392 ปีที่แล้ว +590

      It's the trying that matters

    • @precursorapollo641
      @precursorapollo641 ปีที่แล้ว +426

      Trying is kinda stretching it but i get what you mean

    • @LouMosin
      @LouMosin ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Cap of the year award,
      (Twitch Has literal extensions for interacting with viewers which i shouldn't even need to explain are also content creators smh)
      Let alone any tools for viewers can be doubled as creator content tools just because people lack creativity with it and just because you haven't seen them don't mean that it magically doesn't exist

    • @sadflix8754
      @sadflix8754 ปีที่แล้ว +189

      @@LouMosin Genius of the year award

    • @officialbrian5897
      @officialbrian5897 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      ​@@LouMosin ah yes the genius of the year

  • @e_munni3_385
    @e_munni3_385 ปีที่แล้ว +23271

    The fact that even after the 20% bump he gave twitch a chance shows he really loved their platform and they just threw him away like that😕

    • @scurreith3667
      @scurreith3667 ปีที่แล้ว +638

      It's almost the same feeling as when you meet your idol and they treat you lesser than the dirt on their polished shoes, to be so complacent, that's just horrible.

    • @ThatGamerAlexIsThatBoy
      @ThatGamerAlexIsThatBoy ปีที่แล้ว +184

      Not only that, he already liked TH-cam and TH-cam still gave him a 20% increase

    • @Ab-re7pv
      @Ab-re7pv ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Did you not hear or understood him he told twitch to see if they’d match or do better than TH-cam’s offer

    • @nguyenthaibinh3916
      @nguyenthaibinh3916 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      @@Ab-re7pv i am pretty sure lud asked if twitch gonna raise their offer to keep him not to match since youtube already offer him more from the beginning

    • @bresidentpoejiden8253
      @bresidentpoejiden8253 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      No, it was definitely a money play. "YT increased their offer by 20%, I'm gonna tell twitch the same thing and see if they increase the offer." They decided he wasn't worth the extra money. Plus twitch isn't partnering new reaction content streamers cause the platform users are turning on lazy ass "content"

  • @benobeno9919
    @benobeno9919 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Even his barber didnt wanna finish the cut

  • @Deedo_67
    @Deedo_67 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    People don’t quit jobs, they quit managers

    • @emiliomarbanjr
      @emiliomarbanjr 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Nah fck that i quit multiple call centers without even thinking of the manager, that job/labour is dosght tier.

    • @Signal_in_the_noise
      @Signal_in_the_noise 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      They also quit jobs

    • @mark_stacks
      @mark_stacks 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This logic depends on the job fr

  • @jickey6108
    @jickey6108 ปีที่แล้ว +12147

    TH-cam recommending this video to everyone…
    Edit: the amount of people praising TH-cam over this is insane. brilliant business move on them tbh.

  • @stonewall-mz7yl
    @stonewall-mz7yl ปีที่แล้ว +135000

    This is how business works and a lot of the nerds that run these companies don’t have true business knowledge. They are going to rely on supply and demand and they think they can get a steady stream of people going to their website. I haven’t watched twitch in years because their format sucks and they treat people like crap.

    • @yaoofyeet
      @yaoofyeet ปีที่แล้ว +2045

      fr and there is a bunch of ads for me also

    • @trippinhard250
      @trippinhard250 ปีที่แล้ว +2660

      TH-cam streaming would be perfect if they took a page out of twitch UI. Like going full screen with chat, easier access to emotes and a separate page/section for streaming within the website. Yt already has everything else going for it

    • @yuritarded5245
      @yuritarded5245 ปีที่แล้ว +174

      And yous out here using and commenting on their platform. Don’t be preaching “ a lot of the nerds that run these companies don’t have the true business knowledge” when you have no clue yourself foo

    • @trippinhard250
      @trippinhard250 ปีที่แล้ว +533

      @@yuritarded5245 It is kinda true though. He didn't say it explicitly but a lot of these social media website founders don't have much of a business acumen. They're techies. As Ludwig said he felt more welcome at youtube compared to twitch. There's always been more money on youtube but twitch people didnt start mass migration until 2021. Yt made a hard comeback

    • @karengaming6514
      @karengaming6514 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      They don't treat women in Hottubs like crap with a bikini on

  • @LanetliKedy
    @LanetliKedy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the design of twitch feels like that too interestingly

  • @DennisFinancialDoctor
    @DennisFinancialDoctor ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Sometimes loyalty is not rewarded. You have to know your own worth.

  • @ocarinagirlandthestories648
    @ocarinagirlandthestories648 ปีที่แล้ว +6988

    “When in doubt, flip a coin, cause once the coin is in the air, you’ll realize what you wanted more”
    -somebody on the internet

    • @Kupa364
      @Kupa364 ปีที่แล้ว +120

      That's deep tho👏

    • @deathtaker112
      @deathtaker112 ปีที่แล้ว +99

      Its actually from an Indian movie named Aiyaary lol, the quote is amazing tho

    • @johnv5827
      @johnv5827 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      Theirs quite a few times I've done something like this and when I saw the result I'll be like maybe I should do "two out of three" If you're trying to go for two out of three then maybe the other choice was your preference.

    • @itsgonnabeanaurfromme
      @itsgonnabeanaurfromme ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That doesn't really work

    • @abbiepancakeeater52
      @abbiepancakeeater52 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      yep. thats why i ask people for advice then never take it! i just wanted to figure out what i really wanted based on the answer i get.

  • @ricorojas1854
    @ricorojas1854 ปีที่แล้ว +12678

    Bruh even twitch makes yt look good 💀

    • @TrifoldBored
      @TrifoldBored ปีที่แล้ว +740

      TH-cam isn’t that bad in the grand scheme of things. They do a lot of things right, but considering their size mistakes are bound to happen

    • @Meatman2042
      @Meatman2042 ปีที่แล้ว +376

      @Elmo lover I will agree TH-cam is the only good social media but I have no idea what information you were told that TikTok isn’t that bad but seriously look into it more. TikTok is the worst social media out there especially considering the massive negative impact it’s had on our society

    • @trost7860
      @trost7860 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      @@elmolover197 I would say that Twitter ruins 20+ year olds and TikTok ruins anyone under that. Both are awful for society but TikTok squeaks by just because of its massive child audience that are having their brains’ microwaved by the app.

    • @SenkesisGaming
      @SenkesisGaming ปีที่แล้ว +46

      @Elmo lover Yes but tiktok has trained your attention span to be nonexistent which is not a good thing.

    • @zazaplug4581
      @zazaplug4581 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@elmolover197tiktok isnt that bad? I litterly got a fucking beheading yesterday.

  • @JohnWick-hx7bc
    @JohnWick-hx7bc ปีที่แล้ว +30

    TH-cam legit needs to create a streaming app apart from actual TH-cam like a panel with live streamers

  • @JoeMama-xy8li
    @JoeMama-xy8li ปีที่แล้ว +7

    He could legit destroy anyone in 16 minutes and 40 seconds by just touching them with his sword and dodging their attacks.

  • @fubarexress6359
    @fubarexress6359 ปีที่แล้ว +18552

    Yeah twitch is dying. Slowly but surely. So many huge creators leaving.

    • @bodman951
      @bodman951 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      slowly dying? lmfao its been growing more and more

    • @caius9162
      @caius9162 ปีที่แล้ว +756

      ​@@bodman951 nah, the only thing surviving are the thots streamers. There is no more ninja, ludwig, etc. TH-cam is paying more and growing fast, is that simple. Why would you stay on twitch?lol

    • @smoothyodaproductions4373
      @smoothyodaproductions4373 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@caius9162 yeah and with all the absurd and unfair bans they are basically killing their own platform

    • @A6narchy
      @A6narchy ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Im glad it's dying its about time all the twitch mods and staff receive their karma for abusing the power they have over streamers for the past 10 years. Not giving a care about anyone other then naked girls and banning people they don't like

    • @logan1950
      @logan1950 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@caius9162 if you spend 2 seconds looking this up instead of letting your own bias make you believe twitch is dying then you’d realize this isn’t true. Twitch is down very very slightly from 2021 which was its best year but 2022 is still doing better than 2020. If you look at concurrent viewers and genuinely believe that Twitch is ‘dying’ then you’re just an idiot that hates Twitch cause it’s cool

  • @PseudoProphet
    @PseudoProphet ปีที่แล้ว +18443

    The only reason why streaming on TH-cam sucks is because TH-cam is afraid of the CHAT.

    • @edwardramirez3416
      @edwardramirez3416 ปีที่แล้ว +736

      Not only that if they would have the following live streamers on the left side of TH-cam gaming like Twitch has they would have a lot more viewers as well

    • @imbarneyvargas
      @imbarneyvargas ปีที่แล้ว +979

      @@edwardramirez3416 I think they should rename it to TH-cam Live or something else, and add a whole tab for streams on the mobile app or create a separate app for Live Streams. Like they did for TH-cam music

    • @PseudoProphet
      @PseudoProphet ปีที่แล้ว +250

      @@imbarneyvargas that's already available, but is completely unorganised and it's impossible to find what you want to watch amongst thousands of live streams. 😂😂

    • @hamoiq908
      @hamoiq908 ปีที่แล้ว +140

      Ludwig literally had to make his own company and extension just so TH-cam streaming feels better

    • @RithikaV
      @RithikaV ปีที่แล้ว +53

      Rightfully so cus twitch live chats are some of the cringiest shit ever

  • @p.mishra6904
    @p.mishra6904 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bro got the Harvey Dent method for making big life decisions

  • @matthew2314
    @matthew2314 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    TH-cam makes you feel like you were allowed to invite your entire family when your boss invites you out to lunch

    • @Sound_Spark
      @Sound_Spark 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Both couldn't give a shit about you as a person, all they care about is how much you bring in every month.

  • @willstiehl6079
    @willstiehl6079 ปีที่แล้ว +2749

    This is exactly how you should tackle life, always go with the people that are investing in you. It is essential because they will have your back more than yhe others and support you way more.

    • @peanut_i_guess
      @peanut_i_guess ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This is so true, go with people who appreciate you. A lot of people go with people who don't care about them and they end up being depressed and think people don't like them or the so called "friends" will make you do something bad and could end up with you being *dead*

    • @defaltmarkowicz527
      @defaltmarkowicz527 ปีที่แล้ว

      What do I do if I find trouble in finding people that invest in me?

    • @willstiehl6079
      @willstiehl6079 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@defaltmarkowicz527 leave whoever is surrounding you making you feel like that. You'll know when people truly care for you and your success. Latch onto those folks. They'll help you see things even you can't for yourself. That's how you'll know.

  • @mitchellmedia6163
    @mitchellmedia6163 ปีที่แล้ว +4581

    When he said “a lot of times in my life I leave it up to chance” I just imagine him phoning up sodapoppin and letting him decide

    • @dov2951
      @dov2951 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Let Chance decide everything

    • @aduckonaplane3816
      @aduckonaplane3816 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      "Ay yo soda"
      "What"
      "Yes or no"
      "To what?"
      "Doesn't matter just answer"
      "Uhh okay... yes?"
      "Dude what the fuck i loved this girl why'd you tell me to break up with her"

    • @shelldie8523
      @shelldie8523 ปีที่แล้ว

      Babe I just came.. No reason just chance

    • @legendarygamer4375
      @legendarygamer4375 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@aduckonaplane3816 xd😂

    • @sh1nny902
      @sh1nny902 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@aduckonaplane3816

  • @sillycat277
    @sillycat277 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Twitch is literally that one friend who never said "i owe you one"

  • @hhhhj5831
    @hhhhj5831 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    That’s called a good salesman lmao

  • @Maxime_K-G
    @Maxime_K-G ปีที่แล้ว +1462

    Crazy how Twitch was able to grow considerably next to TH-cam and now they just throw that all away for seemingly no reason.

    • @westonlord4214
      @westonlord4214 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Jesus Christ is our savior, he died on the Cross for our sins. Putting your faith in Him is the only way to get to Heaven when you die🙏✝️

    • @Maxime_K-G
      @Maxime_K-G ปีที่แล้ว +61

      @@westonlord4214 I didn't know God's first name was Weston. Thanks for the info Lord, will do. 🙏🕊

    • @Meme_Slayer9000
      @Meme_Slayer9000 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@westonlord4214 Read the Quran then you will know Islam is the last Religion

    • @casanova1838
      @casanova1838 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Maxime_K-GYou’re joking right lmao

    • @That1PlaceBehindTheBush
      @That1PlaceBehindTheBush ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@westonlord4214 For some reason I haven't seen any of this garbage on Twitch.
      Say what you want about the inconsistent and at times far overreaching moderation on Twitch. At least it isn't overrun with bots and spam like TH-cam is.
      (Both are absolute bags of *** at this point, don't get me wrong)

  • @ocorir
    @ocorir หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    3 years later and TH-cam doesn’t care about live streams anymore, and have largely abandoned any investment in that aspect of their platform.

  • @therealewangaming
    @therealewangaming 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You know what. Years ago when I was working at a news channel, TH-cam/Google was so chill with us. Chatting with their local rep was like chatting with another bud. And they KNEW their stuff and how to troubleshoot things as well.
    I think it was really who they hired for the positions that made the difference.
    Twitch is just… twitch.

  • @red2744
    @red2744 ปีที่แล้ว +56928

    twitch is slowly becoming a new onlyfans and youtube will take over twitch and possibly even tiktok with the shorts they have

    • @themasterseye
      @themasterseye ปีที่แล้ว +1650

      People have been saying this for YEARS. To some degree it is true, but the reality is Twitch isnt going to die, its not going anywhere.

    • @red2744
      @red2744 ปีที่แล้ว +1332

      @@themasterseye agree thats why i said it slowly becomes a platform for women to sell "sexyness"

    • @randomfella133
      @randomfella133 ปีที่แล้ว +309

      @@red2744 just because there is a rise in number of sexy streams doesn't mean other categories aren't getting more streamers either. It's a % game. As long as % of people streaming lewdish content is low, it's not gonna affect twitch

    • @Leobedwars216
      @Leobedwars216 ปีที่แล้ว +145

      I agree except with the TH-cam taking over TikTok, it’s definitely possible and I love TH-cam shorts more than TikTok but TikTok despises TH-cam shorts, they insult shorts in the vids and even say it’s childish. So I don’t believe they will switch, maybe with time tho

    • @NA-nz9lv
      @NA-nz9lv ปีที่แล้ว +67

      I doubt they will take over TikTok, they could take over Twitch if more people pass to YT but I don't know yet. Twitch might treat you like a gear in the system but it works fine if you're a small streamer wanting to grow, on the other hand on YT if you don't already have a massive channel there's no way in hell your streams are getting recommended to people so.. yeah, very different socials. I'd say that TH-cam should just make a separate website/app for streams and do something similar to Twitch (aka stream categories that recommend you big and small channels).

  • @hitormisshuh
    @hitormisshuh ปีที่แล้ว +9227

    sorry but i am forever attached to yt. this sht is my childhood, teenagehood and now adulthood. love this community man.

    • @NonStopGamers
      @NonStopGamers ปีที่แล้ว +210

      Yeah bro. Grew up on TH-cam. Best thing ever

    • @NonStopGamers
      @NonStopGamers ปีที่แล้ว +123

      Also the name “TH-cam” is just fucking great

    • @christianGamerDude
      @christianGamerDude ปีที่แล้ว +86

      Grew up here too, its how I learned about anime, ALL the types of minecraft content, and a bunch of other awesome shit. I am here to stay.

    • @naf8787
      @naf8787 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      Endless amounts of knowledge here on TH-cam, on twitch all u learn how to do is become a tier 4 pokimane simp

    • @jlau04
      @jlau04 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      @@christianGamerDude Not only that, but also the educational content and school stuff, it pretty much taught me half the stuff I know in life 😂

  • @Thegodofalcatraz2559
    @Thegodofalcatraz2559 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He made the right call

  • @redgoliath
    @redgoliath 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    this is why dual stream was invented

  • @aaronolejniczak6604
    @aaronolejniczak6604 ปีที่แล้ว +6745

    doctor: “ludwig your mother is on her last legs, and she’s leaving it up to you as to whether or not we pull the plug”
    ludwig: *flips coin*

    • @austinh7110
      @austinh7110 ปีที่แล้ว +124

      I’m thinking of him getting married and he flips a coin at the alter😂

    • @VixeyTeh
      @VixeyTeh ปีที่แล้ว +47

      ​@@austinh7110 please don't give him ideas.

    • @pirilon78
      @pirilon78 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Actually not that bad to do that

    • @T0NI_
      @T0NI_ ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@austinh7110 I like to think he flips a coin every time someone asks or alludes to him proposing to QT but he’s had the worst (or best I suppose) luck in the world so far

    • @PlanetHouston
      @PlanetHouston ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@austinh7110 I feel like he would flip a coin at the altar as a bit, but probably use a double-sided coin. No word on which option he'd make the sure thing, though. :P

  • @sarnicholas4053
    @sarnicholas4053 ปีที่แล้ว +259

    "I would like to feel valued."
    FAIR ENOUGH.

  • @corkscrew0742
    @corkscrew0742 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro is irl Two-face

  • @conoreaton9700
    @conoreaton9700 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    lock his barber up for that fade

  • @LetsPlayerAshe
    @LetsPlayerAshe ปีที่แล้ว +10932

    Twitch is like that friend that uses you and doesn’t give anything in return. TH-cam is like that friend that uses you but also gives in return. At the end of the day, every business (and tbh everybody in general) is using their people, but how they treat is what separates good from bad.

    • @coachmcguirk6297
      @coachmcguirk6297 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      TH-cam is like that friend who lets you do butt stuff sometimes.

    • @LVX-
      @LVX- ปีที่แล้ว +66

      Small content creators who never get monetized and abandon their channels then get their content stolen, never get anything in return.

    • @PastPositive
      @PastPositive ปีที่แล้ว +178

      @@LVX-thats not TH-cams fault though lmao, TH-cam doesn’t control if someone’s content gets stolen or not.

    • @LVX-
      @LVX- ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@PastPositive Yeah, but why cannot people report if the content is stolen? Why can't unmonetized original creators report their content stolen? Why is the reporting only available when you get monetized which is 1,000 subs and 40,000 watch hours or 10 million shorts views.

    • @Lornext
      @Lornext ปีที่แล้ว +1

      With TH-cam it is a transaction, with Twitch it is a scam.

  • @dandelionappreciator9712
    @dandelionappreciator9712 ปีที่แล้ว +2379

    TH-cam has always felt like a community to me, ive been watching trends go by on here for ages and it's always maintained the same general vibe. There's a reason that despite there being thousands of different communities with almost nothing in common literally everyone got pissed when TH-cam started becoming more corporate

    • @lilweeblet
      @lilweeblet ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m asking because I don’t know, but why?

    • @dandelionappreciator9712
      @dandelionappreciator9712 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@lilweeblet why what?

    • @lilweeblet
      @lilweeblet ปีที่แล้ว

      no more like how. How is TH-cam becoming more corporate?

    • @KirbyVanPelt
      @KirbyVanPelt ปีที่แล้ว +47

      ​@@lilweeblethave you seen the things that TH-cam did recently?, They care more about sponsors and parents opinions more than the creators and the viewers.

    • @leedavid09
      @leedavid09 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I mean TH-cam was always about the community uploading their own stuff. Been watching it since back it first got created and never have been disappointed on the improvements they've gone through. A bit skeptical, but then with adaptation and how everyone has technology needs and convenience; it's not bad. Twitch has a lot of issues I don't necessarily like and I don't really want to subscribe for emotes which is dumb.

  • @XxXFlyingArmBarXxX
    @XxXFlyingArmBarXxX 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This guy playing that No country for old men game 😂😂

  • @jeremylanier4743
    @jeremylanier4743 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It sounds like twitch was defeated by the mere concept of youtube offering this guy a deal.

  • @angelredvivar
    @angelredvivar ปีที่แล้ว +2012

    So basically,
    Twitch: You’re leaving…so anyway
    TH-cam: Yo we gotchu homie, we’ll give you the hook up

    • @perenpuree
      @perenpuree ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Thanks for sharing

    • @okyep
      @okyep ปีที่แล้ว +14

      More like
      TH-cam: 💰😏
      Ludwig: well when you put it like that

  • @_Woo
    @_Woo ปีที่แล้ว +446

    I found it interesting that even though youtube absolutely dwarfs twitch in size Ludwig still got to interview it's CEO.

    • @jashansogi2641
      @jashansogi2641 ปีที่แล้ว

      Was it its ceo?

    • @Jk-ow8ny
      @Jk-ow8ny ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That’s not the case with speed. Speed is the most famous streamer on youtube and he have said that he doesn’t get rewarded or appreciated by youtube

    • @twofat1204
      @twofat1204 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      ​@@Jk-ow8nylets be completely honest here, why must TH-cam appreciate him?

    • @arugula517
      @arugula517 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jashansogi2641yes

    • @Jk-ow8ny
      @Jk-ow8ny ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@twofat1204 why must TH-cam appreciate people like ludwig

  • @Metrion77
    @Metrion77 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dan Clancy really has done so much damage to Twitch since he took over.

  • @Fullbatteri
    @Fullbatteri 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This guy just resumed the Nike Jordan’s history.

  • @xavierharvey4961
    @xavierharvey4961 ปีที่แล้ว +305

    Dang twitch pretty much said thanks for all the support, here's a Chinese fortune cookie🤣

  • @tzitzitzitzi1584
    @tzitzitzitzi1584 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    The reason why I left my previous job was this. Didn't feel appreciated enough. Wasn't even the bad salary. Everyone were on the same boat. But not being appreciated makes you feel like you have accomplished nothing and you are easily replaced.

    • @lsdxhostile8245
      @lsdxhostile8245 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that doesnt apply to this situation, most people never even come close to being able to get a deal in the first place, people need to not be fooled into thinking this is about anything other than money. hence the whole reason YT is fighting hard to scalp streamers. when things finally even out, people will be right back to the charade of thinking they are being "cheated" and "they" being the guys that are even able to get contracts

    • @tzitzitzitzi1584
      @tzitzitzitzi1584 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lsdxhostile8245 Are you talking about streamers or other occupations? Coz in other occupations at least in the west, you can have a job and then keep looking for a better one and eventually do what Lud did. This has happened many times in my circle. People just settle for a job but that's their choice and if they have a degree they should keep looking for the ideal one or at least pressure the current employer for better work conditions. Of course its about the money. That's why we are working. But if you are Ludwig who broke some grounds in streaming and the platform didn't think it was a big deal then it's understandable to leave for a better pay. Coz at the end of the day, he was right. They didn't care enough while youtube did. Its not like Twitch doesn't have the money for Lud's contract it's just that they didn't care enough to offer him that money. Being one of the biggest streamers while not being paid as such is just like being one of the best money bringers on a shity salary. That's what any of us would do.

  • @katerina3312
    @katerina3312 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Had a friend who was being sought after by two companies, the company he liked most was going to pay him less and when he went to them and said that he was going to go with the other offer. They upped the offer and he took the job he wanted.
    Dont be afraid to negotiate, especially if you have a highly sought after skill

  • @zazzpzazz
    @zazzpzazz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "I flipped a coin."
    He then proceeded to ignore the coin and make an actual reasonable decision

    • @ClassicMist360
      @ClassicMist360 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      this dude literally didnt listen to the video, either that or your english comprehension is 3rd grade level

  • @skullham
    @skullham ปีที่แล้ว +719

    TH-cam would be just as good if it was actually possible to find streams 😢

    • @ancientautumn9987
      @ancientautumn9987 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      TH-cam can never take over twitch until this is fixed

    • @EroticInferno
      @EroticInferno ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Can you find streams on twitch? What makes it better than TH-cam?
      Genuine question, I’m curious because I’ve always heard that discoverability on twitch was low. So it’s worse on TH-cam?

    • @Jordonzo
      @Jordonzo ปีที่แล้ว +76

      ​@@EroticInferno let's put it this way, if I wanna watch a world of warcraft stream on twitch it takes like 10s to find the warcraft category and start browsing streams, on TH-cam I'd have to go through multiple not very intuitive menus just to even see live streams, and even then it can be hard to know if the stream is specifically that game.

    • @Wiki1184
      @Wiki1184 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@EroticInferno Honestly, with twitch I can look up a game I enjoy and find everyone streaming it at that time. With TH-cam I genuinely don’t know how to find stream unless I’m subbed to someone or happen to view their profile while they’re streaming.

    • @charliebaker1427
      @charliebaker1427 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​@@Jordonzo youd just search wow then narrow to livestreams

  • @rannyogonald
    @rannyogonald ปีที่แล้ว +301

    I definitely think TH-cam make you feel like family whenever you become a bigger creator and is recognized by them.

    • @cleverman383
      @cleverman383 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      They actually don't care about you either, they just know it's important to make you feel cared about

    • @fulnaz3164
      @fulnaz3164 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​@@cleverman383 so they care

    • @scurreith3667
      @scurreith3667 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Plus the pay cut is extremely more generous than twitch, though not to say TH-cam doesn't have their own problems, but seriously, who wants to be associated with a streaming site that is 'child friendly' who bans someone for a week after being caught having sex live on stream?

    • @n.c.pictures
      @n.c.pictures ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@fulnaz3164 about their money, yes

    • @tumultuousv
      @tumultuousv ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fulnaz3164 well technically yes. But no

  • @naseeruddin528
    @naseeruddin528 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ludwig turning into Two Face 😂

  • @loveestel
    @loveestel ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I searched “that brazilian song” and this was the first thing that came up
    I’ve never felt more understood

  • @LuisGonzalez-rj3xw
    @LuisGonzalez-rj3xw ปีที่แล้ว +235

    Doctor: "Alright sir, shall we circumcise your child or no?"
    Mrs. Ludwig: "Well, I think..."
    Ludwig: *flips coin*

    • @lowiqplays4944
      @lowiqplays4944 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Harvey Dent had entered the chat

    • @VixeyTeh
      @VixeyTeh ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't give him ideas. 🤣

    • @GyorBox
      @GyorBox ปีที่แล้ว +4

      "Mrs. Ludwig"
      😂😂😂😂😂

  • @joshualopezuribe7805
    @joshualopezuribe7805 ปีที่แล้ว +340

    twitch isn’t a platform that will continue to grow especially in comparison to youtube

  • @soulsilvermaster123
    @soulsilvermaster123 ปีที่แล้ว

    “How did you choose between TH-cam and Twitch?”
    “You ever see the Dark Knight?”

  • @21savage68
    @21savage68 ปีที่แล้ว +3546

    I like youtube streams cause If I miss anything I can just click through the stream instead of waiting for the VOD or searching for a clip

    • @ninoo3186
      @ninoo3186 ปีที่แล้ว +114

      that depends on the creator as well. on yt streamers can choose to turn off playback as well during stream. but i guess it's still better than twitch where it's not even an option

    • @giuliagabriela9729
      @giuliagabriela9729 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      And I can watch in 2.0 so I can catch up during the live
      I can't even use 2.0 in cellphone on Twitch in a vod

    • @TakittixD
      @TakittixD ปีที่แล้ว +19

      This! I have ADHD I can't sit throu the whole vid doing nothing. I have to skip around the stream not to loose interest. And I'm rarely on time anyway. I really dislike twitch

    • @waltercommunitycollege1615
      @waltercommunitycollege1615 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@TakittixD How is your adhd relevant? You just have a hard time paying attention to what often can be a boring several hour long stream. You don't need adhd to do this.

    • @paper2222
      @paper2222 ปีที่แล้ว

      there's also a downside, because you can't view vods at all on youtube livestreams if they were archived unlisted

  • @jbewbz3851
    @jbewbz3851 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That coin flip increases his yt contract by 20%

  • @HayabusaRyu
    @HayabusaRyu ปีที่แล้ว +206

    TH-cam let's you seem like you're having drinks with your buds before they utterly screw you over.

    • @Duality333
      @Duality333 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Elaborate

    • @exzile4166
      @exzile4166 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      elaborate²

    • @Duality333
      @Duality333 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@exzile4166 this shit caught me so off guard lmfao. It’s still making me laugh and idk why.

    • @exzile4166
      @exzile4166 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Duality333 yea🤣

    • @user-kz9rz8ui1c
      @user-kz9rz8ui1c ปีที่แล้ว +29

      youtube is bad but twitch is just as bad at fucking over their content creators if not worse. Also, twitch is petty af imo, at least youtube is a bit more neutral imo.

  • @classicstrawberry6633
    @classicstrawberry6633 ปีที่แล้ว +361

    Feels like TH-cam sees Ludwig as valuable asset in a way that they were determined to get him and twitch was just like "yeah ok bye" to someone who has done so much for their company

    • @JSE4
      @JSE4 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The staff at youtube is clearly waaaayy more qualified than twitch. This is such a fumble in a sales cycle that it’s laughable. Whoever was responsible for closing Ludwig at twitch is 100% sacked otherwise they’re a joke

  • @RetroGamerAdy
    @RetroGamerAdy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I could deal with leaving Facebook, Instagram, twitch. But not TH-cam, it defined my teenage years and now adulthood, also youtube was very informative and helped throughany times on my life wether high points or ever the lowest ❤
    And for that I'm forever grateful

  • @masscreationofficial7558
    @masscreationofficial7558 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Guys Ludwig is 2face from dark knight 😂

  • @ddylon
    @ddylon ปีที่แล้ว +58

    good life lesson for those wanting to know which of two jobs to decide from, it’s always better to have the job that values your work more

    • @collinf9334
      @collinf9334 ปีที่แล้ว

      And one that pays more 🤷‍♂️

    • @aandyherr817
      @aandyherr817 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@collinf9334 so not twitch…

  • @mason7915
    @mason7915 ปีที่แล้ว +176

    Honestly TH-cam has been a very “by the people” business model. Aside from the adpocalypse, but the fact that content creators have had so much influence on the direction of the platform speaks volumes.

    • @user-lo3er3th8g
      @user-lo3er3th8g ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Horrible take

    • @DanielQwerty
      @DanielQwerty ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@user-lo3er3th8g
      are you gonna explain why or let your comment lose to logic?

    • @bejeu4264
      @bejeu4264 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@DanielQwerty they're probably not gonna respond so I'll explain it for them, youtube does not listen to its community, they've been making changes to the site without even asking the community such as the removal of the dislike button

    • @SilkRoadMedic
      @SilkRoadMedic ปีที่แล้ว +13

      "by the people" and yet they remove the dislikes

    • @bofa722
      @bofa722 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      ​@@DanielQwertywhat the other guy said. They've removed dislikes and the ads are awful, you're living in denial if you think youtube goes "by the people" lol

  • @SirHellaDope
    @SirHellaDope ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Money. The answer is money.

  • @jean-paul8502
    @jean-paul8502 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Twitch is where you start, grow, experience, learn. TH-cam is where you go on vacation and never wanna go back because you were so well taken care of.

  • @phshgaming5281
    @phshgaming5281 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Flipping a coin is always great cause it immediately lets you know if you are happy or disappointed

    • @Vince_atp
      @Vince_atp 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wise words! Good point

  • @SergeantShrimp1
    @SergeantShrimp1 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Totally get the coin flip thing, I do the same. But most of the time I don't even look at the coin. As soon as you flip it you realise you're hoping it lands a certain way

    • @oscarjrvelasquez8520
      @oscarjrvelasquez8520 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      ​@@user-nf2gt8bv6jhe just let's it fall and dramatically walks away while the coin is spinning on the ground and the sun is setting

    • @jaebrowne6780
      @jaebrowne6780 ปีที่แล้ว

      Main character shit

  • @AlmightyGhostKing
    @AlmightyGhostKing 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That’s all I needed to hear a company that doesn’t value the ones that make them money is not a company to build with

  • @certified_museman
    @certified_museman ปีที่แล้ว

    That clapped fade couldn’t make me stay strait faced

  • @MortonCammar
    @MortonCammar ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Always flip a coin because either way you are going pick the choice you truly want.

    • @jazzyj7834
      @jazzyj7834 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Shockingly sound advice. I do this quite frequently and if I find I feel disappointed in the coin flip results I generally take that as an indication of what I really wanted even if I wasn't able to analyze it beforehand.
      But, when I literally can't figure out what decision to go with, it's typically a decision with no right choice, and of equal consequence. I find that coin flipping reduces the anxiety of the decision entirely and it allows me to just roll with it.

  • @lenaotaku5905
    @lenaotaku5905 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Twitch is like an academy and the one that becomes successful promotes to youtube.

  • @cgr-sk1ip
    @cgr-sk1ip 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    bro is emitting tommy shelby energy with the coin flip

  • @PyGorka
    @PyGorka 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That is why Google is so good at what they do. Google's sales people make you feel like you are best friends with them. I work with them regularly.

  • @Eclipse-lw4vf
    @Eclipse-lw4vf ปีที่แล้ว +131

    There’s a reason if I watch twitch it’s from streamers who rarely run ads besides the forced one at the beginning when u click the channel. Hell earlier today I was trying to check a dudes channel out and it gave me 4 30 second ads. I’ve no problem with ads but when I’m trying to decide if I want to watch someone I’d rather not get an ad yet.. needless to say I immediately left that channel and went back to TH-cam for my videos and streams

    • @aandyherr817
      @aandyherr817 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So now twitch even subbed has ads? It’s stupid. If TH-cam make its easier to see live content I’d 100% go with TH-cam.
      TH-cam just has to tweak its platform to integrate live streaming and it can be so successful… and putting twitch in its place rightfully.

    • @Eclipse-lw4vf
      @Eclipse-lw4vf 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@aandyherr817I agree, TH-cam has the most potential imo. Every once in awhile I get a streamer recommend to me but not much. Needs a live section but then game categories as well

  • @realNoMee
    @realNoMee ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This surprisingly hits home. I grew up knowing this is how most businesses function but even still after working in a distribution center (packaging warehouse) for a while I just had to leave. I was just a set of arms moving things into a box, and then the box onto a conveyer belt for 10-12 hours a day. I was overcome with this crushing sense of "This job only exists because they cannot yet afford robots do it." Financially I'd be better off if I had stayed there but I just don't have the ability to compartmentalize that stuff like most other people. I was lucky enough to be able to drop the job, but my heart goes out to anybody with no other choice.

    • @bonzo1975
      @bonzo1975 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I had that job for like a week, couldn't do it my body isn't strong enough

  • @ogun4921
    @ogun4921 ปีที่แล้ว

    TH-cam: We have fun here.
    Twitch: _We_ have fun here.

  • @thomasdwelly9314
    @thomasdwelly9314 ปีที่แล้ว

    This man on god. Took a clip from the yard and the added himself to the clip to make it look like a real podcast between him and lud.

  • @thegreatcornbread5066
    @thegreatcornbread5066 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The TH-cam recruiters were probably ecstatic when the last second deal worked

  • @sanjaynandalall2260
    @sanjaynandalall2260 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I'm actually surprised youtube would treat you that way, appreciate this

  • @hi_itz_angad
    @hi_itz_angad ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *Flipped a coin*.... Harvey dent vibes intensify

  • @rangermavs91
    @rangermavs91 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    bro the music combined with Ludwig being serious hit way harder than it needed to 😭😭

  • @hamoiq908
    @hamoiq908 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Ludwig literally had to make his own company and extension just so TH-cam streaming feels better. Huge investment by TH-cam

  • @JusTVIDSE
    @JusTVIDSE ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Even in business, actual relationships matter

  • @givarymrzero
    @givarymrzero หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's money guys

  • @IOSARBX
    @IOSARBX 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Iced Coffee Hour Clips, Your videos always make me happy, so I subscribed!

  • @thenovicewhispers
    @thenovicewhispers ปีที่แล้ว +13

    "Dearest Grace,
    When I have a decision to make, I flip a coin..."

  • @jefferydavidson5347
    @jefferydavidson5347 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Twitch watching this be like: 👁️ 👄 👁️

  • @doopness785
    @doopness785 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    To be far Twitch has a nearly limitless amount of competition amongst streamers. One or more big streams leaving isn’t gonna change anything.

  • @flipalicous1671
    @flipalicous1671 ปีที่แล้ว

    ngl lud seems like an irl version of kanao

  • @unnamedvisitor1649
    @unnamedvisitor1649 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Twitch's horrible behaviour and lack of empathy is why I never left TH-cam. As bad as YT may be at some aspects, Twitch is a thousand times worse and vehemently refuses to apologize or even acknowledge when they are in the wrong.

  • @jaredsmith7240
    @jaredsmith7240 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is how you negotiate your salary. People need to take notes, this is a life lesson not just for streamers

  • @caseyviajar2464
    @caseyviajar2464 ปีที่แล้ว

    they didn't even head in the call.

  • @Heisenburger815
    @Heisenburger815 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro barber did him dirty😭😭

  • @thisguy.-.
    @thisguy.-. ปีที่แล้ว +5

    fallen down slowed down is such a weird choice for bg music and I love it

  • @BeLikeNexus
    @BeLikeNexus ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That’s the difference between Google and Amazon. They treat their engineers the same way

  • @FluxedState
    @FluxedState หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So it wasn’t a coin flip.

  • @k1ngw1ngjr10
    @k1ngw1ngjr10 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have seen this short but every time it comrs across my recommend ill still watch because its just that good