@octoguygmod "he falls off the stage in the cutscene! And- and then you start the game WITHOUT A SAVE FILE and Banjo is dead! Because you killed him!"
The windows don't need eggs to break! Heck, I didn't even know eggs would work! What's intended is that you use the Rat-a-tat Rap or Beak Barge! Which... are both moves using Kazooie. So that doesn't change the results in the slightest.
Ahh yeah I don’t know why I even said that, I think because I knew Rat-a-tat and beak barge were off the table and when doing the challenge thought Banjo shitted out eggs lol
@@pressaTDKazooie literally throws her ass in the air when you fire eggs....and it's EGGS. Like, the things birds make?? Something tells me you don't actually know shit about this game.
there's probably some super technical shenanigans that would let you roll or punch off the ledge and into the window's (surprisingly generous) hitbox. ...probably.
@6:20 The Ground Pound move is literally called Beak Buster. Its explicitly Kazooies move. Bottles: "I call this move the Beak Buster, Jump into the air, Then Press Z To Send *Kazooie* Slamming down hard into the floor." Kazzoie:"Gulp...I dont like the sound of that Banjo" Bottles: "Get used to It nest girl, *You'll* Be using it alot" I can rationalize the swimming, but everything from 6:20 onward is invalid.
I'm kinda curious now if the reverse challenge would be possible. Since it seems a lot more like Kazooie is doing the work, rather than Banjo. I guess that would mean...no moving, and no basic jumps, and no rolls? Kazooie flies, shoots eggs, you can move with the trot and swim with her, really it seems more like this should be called Kazooie-Banjo...
That may actually be possible if you use the glitch at the beginning to skip straight to rusty taller trot would already be unlocked as a movement option and would skip having to go through the otherwise impossible spiral mounting and most of rusty should be possible (Except maybe saving snorkel due to swimming being very banjo heavy) and from there most of the game should be very doable just far harder due to a lack of a ability to be precise with tough jumps
@@ItsLux1211you could probably save snorkel by swimming underwater and pressing The dive button as you swim. Which makes Kazooie use her wings to go faster in water. If you discount swimming. The answer is rusty bucket bay as as soon as you leave the leaving you need to swim to the next section. The biggest problem with this challenge is you would have to stipulate everything like Banjo stands on a jiggle switch before placing jiggles in the open world. Every jump starts with a banjo hop other than a talon trot so you need a rule for that. I can't remember the name of the golden feather move but that also has banjo walking so does that count. Even with the rusty bucket bay glitch and if that opens up the talon trot there is just no way to have a definitive run. Also let's face it you can't never win the game even if you decide to make all the concessions because you need pumpkin banjo to raise the waters to get to click clock wood.
I mean I use Talon Trot for moving 99% of the times, so I guess that would be quite possible to even beat the game. You want to move, use Talon Trot. Want to attack, Kazooie do the job anyway. Eggs, flying, spring jump. It would be same run, except you just have to Talon Trot everywhere. Not sure if there is anything that you need Banjo specifically for.
I wonder if there could be some kind of mod that puts the separate Banjo or Kazooie from when they split up in Banjo-Tooie as the only playable character in this game (or the next one). But I distinctly remember in Tooie that the roll has Kazooie wrap her wings around Banjo, so that's no longer a solo-Banjo move.
while i can't speak to any specific experience I imagine backporting moves from tooie would be a massive undertaking, plus it'd be even harder in this version of the game most likely rather than the already somewhat explored N64 version.
@@TheRiddler6129 if you could I'd say you could probably beat most of the game since wack-pack is so broken. But that would be a huge technical challange to import that move
Wait wait no, I gotta see what happens when Grunty deletes your save when you dont even have a save. It might just be nothing but damn Im curious now lol. Cause I think those demo files use hidden saves or something like that, like file 0 or someething. It would be interesting and probably just crash tthee game lol
That is how I played the game which is much harder. When I watch people online use Kazooie to walk around like 90% of the time I realized I played the game wrong.
I’m right there with you buddy. I find myself walking as banjo more often in the first game (when not around inclines) to be more precise and talon trot much more in the second cause it’s so HUGE
as a 4 yr old kid I was completely stumped on how to get past the first steep hill in gruntys lair to even get to mumbo mountain, i even had the 'short' banjo jump you start off with before you talk to the mole to unlock all your moves in spiral mountain. But kid me never thought about talking to the mole hills and discovered it by accident.
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His excuse was (had to go back twice because he brushed it aside so fast): he remembered mistakingly thinking Banjo was the one pooping eggs (mentioned earlier in the vid only as a funny trivia), so he then got the idea to allow it in the run, imagining it as Banjo doing it.
The swimming is one thing, but then you brush off the ground pound besides it being named after kazooie…you set rules so thus I shite on it. Should’ve kept it ‘mostly a banjo move’ take 😅
The ending of this video actually brought an interesting question to mind... If a modder were to port all of Kazooie into Tooie, jiggy locations included, and you were to be in a constant state of split up, how many jiggies could both characters collect, and who could collect more? I want to say Banjo, since Kazooie can't swim, but Banjo can't fly, either, so it's an interesting hypothetical.
I would argue that the gameplay of BK is majority Kazooie. All Banjo can do is claw swipe (basically never used), roll, and walk/jump (both inferior to trotting and jumping using Kazooie) It's kind of wild how little Banjo is actually used. Even when swimming it's more useful to use Kazooie.
dont you have to drain sand castle first to input code which require shitting eggs so would cheats would be off limits then? not that they helped at all
You can clip through the window into the engine room which enables you to access the jiggy and notes there, and the propelar , however you need beak-buster to be able to hit the switches, so that's out. Still that would be two extra jiggies in your first count.
Maybe do a follow up where it is assumed that every world and every note door is open and accessible (so the slope in Grunty's Lair is ignored), so you could go world by world instead of the harsh limit. Just to open up more of the game and have a better challenge.
Is that final caclulation correct? Did you not require the Jiggies that you colected via ground pounding in Rusty Bucket to unlock Treasuer Trove? So without ground pound, can you even access any level except Mumbo and Rusty?
The idea for this video was fundamentally flawed from the start, as you kind of admit. You can't beat Grunty without Kazooie for sure, and almost none of the moves (maybe literally none) that you learn in Grunty's Lair involve Banjo at all. It would have made a lot more sense to just make a minimum Kazooie uses video so that you could show off more of the game and more of the problem solving you have to consider to make sure you get enough Jiggies and notes to reach Grunty.
Kind of feel like you threw in the towel WAY too early for this video... it's a really interesting question and I'm sure there are a lot of jiggies you can get if you could access the other worlds. I expected this to be a "minimum Kazooie" challenge where you'd just manually count every time you use Kazooie, with prioritizing minimizing Kazooie usage (so you'd only go back to get a jiggy you missed if you NEEDED a Kazooie required jiggy to get to the next world). Routing would be a bit of a challenge, but would probably spark community interest more. Sadly this came out more as a "I tried this challenge, couldn't figure out the rules, messed up several times, and kind of gave up." despite opening with the quesiton "No Kazooie was out of the question, but how much do you need her" implying it's a minimum use run... Sorry, just being honest, good effort, but giving up like this isn't worth the like. Also, I kind of disagree the backflip jump is "Kazooie", Banjo is using his legs to leap in the air from a crouching position. I guess you could say that Kazooie is using her wings to help propel him higher than his regular jump, but you let the Dive and for a long while the Ground pound slide with an excuse that "Banjo's doing all the work" and admitted several times you thought as a kid Banjo was pooping the eggs out even towards the end of the video. So just a tip since you're fairly new at this... you may want to try to put in more effort and if you fail like this, just scrap the video. Better to give us a full hearted attempt that tried everything (even if you admit a skill cap), or just upload something else entirely, than upload something where you can't seem to agree on your own rules and give up cause of that. Best of luck in the future. You have potential. Just push yourself harder and you'll be among the greats like DPad gaming, Seer, Particular Mushroom, and other "minimalist challenge" runners in time! Some suggestions of great challenge runners who made darn sure they gave us something to watch for an hour. XD
Appreciate the constructive feedback and kind words! I understand where you’re coming from. I don’t want the video to come off as little effort, because I definitely did put in a lot of effort making this video and trying to find ways around not having to use Kazooie. I just wanted to do a run where Kazooie couldn’t be used at all, but I agree I should have done more and just kept the use of Kazooie very minimal. But as you said still pretty new and all I can do is continue to learn and make better videos. Thanks again!
yeah for some reason in banjokazooie ALL the abilities are kazooie focused. All banjo does is jump and punch, which nobody every uses since the punch is terrible lol
I left a comment earlier about using Kazooie to get underwater and seconds after carrying on watching your video, you mention excusing that exact mechanic ahaha Lesson learnt, don't leave a comment until you've watched the whole video XD Great video anyways. Never realised how much Banjo could do alone.
My first thought when seeing this was "oh, he's gonna use that bee transformation anywhere glitch to have access to every place" it's been forever since I watched anything banjo kazooie related so I got no clue if that'd require kazooie though. Also I don't know why but I feel like banjo had more moves than that 🤔
If I could reach Click Clock Wood I would have tried to utilize that glitch as well. And yeah I also didn’t realize how little Banjo could do alone lol. In Tooie he can do a lot more so maybe that’s what you’re thinking
@@pressaTD You could reach click clock wood through the puzzle mini game but it's really hard to do and requires you to turn off your internet and having the gameplay in the puzzle go off sync and having banjo die in the minigame to respawn at click clock wood, even then though, you'd still not be able to beat the game
When it comes to Mumbo's mountain and returning I remember a glitch back in the day where you can leave the transformation range of the bee transformation and go wherever Also for returning from Freezeezy peek I thought that the Walrus transformation let you go up steep slopes though I haven't played for a long time
Im now curious to see what a Low-Kazooie% would be. Just play through the game to see what is mathematically the least number of times you need to use Kazooie
Actually I discovered this "hack" in the Nintendo 64 version. You have to have a Game Shark and use the L to levitate cheat. And you actually have to sit and wait for the mini demo to load. But once you're in Rusty Bucket just levitate for a few seconds then let Banjo fall. He'll be off from where he should and his auto inputs will kill him. Then you start in Rusty Bucket.
I once tried the X button challenge in Banjo Kazooie. I played nearly a decade ago, but I can rememeber that I only needed to press the X button 4 times to get to Clanker's Cavern, as far as I remember. I am not sure if that could be lowered. I tried not using the triggers as well, but I did not get very far with that one so I gave up even faster.
@@matthewseaholm4634 All challenge runs are pointless. It's just for entertainment. A lot of challenge runs in a lot of video games require exploits of one kind or another. Are you going to look at the world record any% speedrun of Ocarina of Time using 'Ocarina Items' to wrong-warp to the ganon castle collapse section and say 'they're cheating so it's pointless'? A cheat is a code you input, or a setting you unlock as a reward. Exploits are playing the game in a way the developers didn't intend, but they're not *cheating* If you don't like exploits, don't watch challenge runs. Simple.
I still enjoy a challenge video, even if you can only get 11 jiggies! It's more interesting than knowing for sure you will beat the game. Also those small colored things are pronounced jin-joes
Id be interested in how manny you can collect with banjo, while using kazooie where necessary. To unlock worlds and stuff but then dont use her. Like: i used her to go up the sand hills in gobis valley but didnt her for the flying carpet or somethinh like that.
Yeah in retrospect that’s probably the approach I should have taken with the video, but I wanted to see how many Jiggies you could truly get without ever using Kazooie. But I think I’m going to do this again for Tooie and take this approach
I have B&K on an N64 emulator and and actively use the "press L to levitate" cheat. It doesn't require Kazooie at all and works wonders. Even getting to high up places Kazooie wouldn't normally reach.
A mod for banjor tooie that lets you split up banjo and kazooie at any spot or just place a split up station at the very start of the game might be fun to test a challenge like this out
Would love to see a variation of this for Banjo Tooie (with a mod disabling the barriers ofc so you can truly go on a solo adventure). Banjo is surprisingly mobile without Kazooie when you know how to use him. His double jump in particular just feels like cheating.
Lol we’ve been trying to make it more clear in recent videos that there’s two of us. We have some videos planned for the future where we are both in them
"What if we said [BLEEP} Kazooie?" Artists: "Write that down! Write that down!" But seriously, this means that Kazooie is really the heavy lifter of the duo since it's her skills that are required for 89% of the game. I would have thought it would have been more of a 70/30 percentage split, but that neglects that the double jump and Talon Trot aren't just fun ways to move around faster, but is legitimately the only way to make it around some maps.
Oh boy this is going to be a blast theoretically when you do banjo-Tooie you should I believe be able to hack banjo from the beginning to be by himself
You should definitely be able to do a lot more with just Kazooie, I’m just not sure how interesting of a video it would be lol. But I know a few people now have expressed the same curiosity
In speedruns of this game, they rely on the fact that there is a slight delay before banjo slips on slopes that are too steep and therefore it's possible to precisely jump up them. I think a talented speedrunner could get a lot more here.
Fun Fact: you could have used multiple cheat codes as, for some unclear reason, the xbox version doesn't actually delete your save data. From the wiki: "Grunty's ability to erase your game pak doesn't appear to have the desired effect in the Xbox 360 version, as seen in a video on the subject in which the affected save file is still intact on the Xbox 360 version. It does, however, work as intended in the N64 and NS versions. However, on the Xbox 360 version, saving will be disabled until the game is restarted should too many illegal cheats be entered."
I wonder about the inverse, how much can you do with only Kazooie. You're only aloud to walk on Kazzoie's legs and do moves involving her. The lore explanation is Banjo never did wake up that morning, so Kazooie is just pupping him around
Now for the inverse challenge - how much can you beat with just Kazooie? And by that, we'll say any time you walk or jump, it has to involve Kazooie somehow. So always Talon Trotting or fluttering or backflipping, no regular walking or slow swimming or climbing as these involve just Banjo without Kazooie. Should make narrow walkways and sneaking a lot harder. I'm guessing you can use the same intro glitch. If not, we'll count anything after skipping Bottles tutorial.
i love to see a mod that you can do this challenge with a split pad from tooie and using all banjo skills from tooie also i like to see a mod that one again with the split pad you can play with a friend as B or K using B&T skills in banjo Kazooie and Tooie
That skip into Rusty Bucket Bay sounds like something a kid would have made up on the playground back in the day lmao
"If you-you uh- press the start button six times when Banjo plays his uh- guitar, you-uh- go to the boat level!"
@octoguygmod "he falls off the stage in the cutscene! And- and then you start the game WITHOUT A SAVE FILE and Banjo is dead! Because you killed him!"
Funnily enough, this is pretty much the same glitch as the infamous Back In Time from three separate Zelda titles.
@NYKevin100 you're totally right, info leaking from a demo on the title screen into actual gsmeplay due to improper sanitization
To be fair, a lot of speedrunning tech does :P
Hearing "Jingo" instead of "Jinjo" bugs me a bit. I mean, they even say it.
And the spelling is very clear too.
Lol thought the same thing
At least he's pronouncing jiggy right, could be saying jijjy.
Also "Gobby's valley" and "Clinker's Cavern"
I quit the video as soon as I heard that
The windows don't need eggs to break! Heck, I didn't even know eggs would work! What's intended is that you use the Rat-a-tat Rap or Beak Barge!
Which... are both moves using Kazooie.
So that doesn't change the results in the slightest.
Ahh yeah I don’t know why I even said that, I think because I knew Rat-a-tat and beak barge were off the table and when doing the challenge thought Banjo shitted out eggs lol
Who cares? He's already using the KAZOOIE ground pound so what's even the point of rules?? Just do whatever you want!
@@pressaTDKazooie literally throws her ass in the air when you fire eggs....and it's EGGS. Like, the things birds make?? Something tells me you don't actually know shit about this game.
there's probably some super technical shenanigans that would let you roll or punch off the ledge and into the window's (surprisingly generous) hitbox.
...probably.
@@weirdosheep619 Nah, I don't think the default punch move works, and everything else involves Kazooie anyway.
I’d be totally down to see like, a minimum Kazooie run
I think this needs to happen as well
Is this about to be a new A button challenge? We already got SM64, so I wouldn't mind seeing this game pushed to the limit too.
@@AururaDergyBefore you know it, we'll be talking about Banjo going to parallel universes 😂
"But what if we said fuck Kazooie?"
The internet knows. The internet says it a lot.
But TH-cam doesn’t like the word
I would 😫
I’m joking
Oof, yeah. 770 as of commenting.
They should say Humba instead.
"Haha, if you cheat too much, I'll delete your save"
"My save has been deleted for a long time"
@6:20 The Ground Pound move is literally called Beak Buster. Its explicitly Kazooies move.
Bottles: "I call this move the Beak Buster, Jump into the air, Then Press Z To Send *Kazooie* Slamming down hard into the floor."
Kazzoie:"Gulp...I dont like the sound of that Banjo"
Bottles: "Get used to It nest girl, *You'll* Be using it alot"
I can rationalize the swimming, but everything from 6:20 onward is invalid.
15:03
He considers that at this part of the video and subtracts the jiggies by the amount he got by using the Beak Buster.
I'm kinda curious now if the reverse challenge would be possible. Since it seems a lot more like Kazooie is doing the work, rather than Banjo.
I guess that would mean...no moving, and no basic jumps, and no rolls? Kazooie flies, shoots eggs, you can move with the trot and swim with her, really it seems more like this should be called Kazooie-Banjo...
The big problem would be not being able to use transformations
That may actually be possible if you use the glitch at the beginning to skip straight to rusty taller trot would already be unlocked as a movement option and would skip having to go through the otherwise impossible spiral mounting and most of rusty should be possible (Except maybe saving snorkel due to swimming being very banjo heavy) and from there most of the game should be very doable just far harder due to a lack of a ability to be precise with tough jumps
@@ItsLux1211you could probably save snorkel by swimming underwater and pressing The dive button as you swim. Which makes Kazooie use her wings to go faster in water. If you discount swimming. The answer is rusty bucket bay as as soon as you leave the leaving you need to swim to the next section.
The biggest problem with this challenge is you would have to stipulate everything like Banjo stands on a jiggle switch before placing jiggles in the open world. Every jump starts with a banjo hop other than a talon trot so you need a rule for that. I can't remember the name of the golden feather move but that also has banjo walking so does that count. Even with the rusty bucket bay glitch and if that opens up the talon trot there is just no way to have a definitive run.
Also let's face it you can't never win the game even if you decide to make all the concessions because you need pumpkin banjo to raise the waters to get to click clock wood.
Kazooie can do that forward pecking move to replace moving.
I mean I use Talon Trot for moving 99% of the times, so I guess that would be quite possible to even beat the game. You want to move, use Talon Trot. Want to attack, Kazooie do the job anyway. Eggs, flying, spring jump. It would be same run, except you just have to Talon Trot everywhere. Not sure if there is anything that you need Banjo specifically for.
I've never heard the Jinjos called Jingos. Kinda fun way to say it.
Lol oops
I always assumed he said it that way on purpose to tilt banjo fans into oblivion
They literally say their name every time you collect one.
It reminds me of Jiggies!
@@raydaypinballsame
I wonder if there could be some kind of mod that puts the separate Banjo or Kazooie from when they split up in Banjo-Tooie as the only playable character in this game (or the next one).
But I distinctly remember in Tooie that the roll has Kazooie wrap her wings around Banjo, so that's no longer a solo-Banjo move.
while i can't speak to any specific experience I imagine backporting moves from tooie would be a massive undertaking, plus it'd be even harder in this version of the game most likely rather than the already somewhat explored N64 version.
I don't know if it's possible, but Solo Banjo might be possible to implement into Banjo-Kazooie...?
I don't think there's a single move that doesn't involve Kazooie when the two are together in Tooie
@@TheRiddler6129 if you could I'd say you could probably beat most of the game since wack-pack is so broken. But that would be a huge technical challange to import that move
Wait wait no, I gotta see what happens when Grunty deletes your save when you dont even have a save. It might just be nothing but damn Im curious now lol. Cause I think those demo files use hidden saves or something like that, like file 0 or someething. It would be interesting and probably just crash tthee game lol
Lol I’m pretty curious as well, but wasn’t curious enough to ruin my progress. I’ll have to check it out and make a short of it perhaps
@@pressaTD You definitely should if it's not too much trouble! Love the channel so I'll be watching whatever you upload regardless lol
Banjo-Tooie loads
It unlocks Luigi
I'm worried it would make the demo file permanently be missing all those items and make the glitch never give mumbo tokens again
STOP CALLING THEM "JINGOS" IT'S JINJOS😭😭😭
I’m sorry!!
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I cringed every time. 😂
They literally say their own names every time you save one. Not hard LOL
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9:29 CAPTAIN BLUBBER FOUND THE ONE PIECE?!
CAN WE GET MUCH HIGHER
This is the best timeline right there.
That would explain why he can swim down there himself.
What Fruit(s) do you think he got? 🤔
Interesting. I'd also be curious to see what else can be done. I have a feeling Banjo can get more.
I have the same feeling
The title of this game is now Banjo-
it's allways a pleasure to see Banjo-Kazooie anywhere
That is how I played the game which is much harder. When I watch people online use Kazooie to walk around like 90% of the time I realized I played the game wrong.
Lol yeah the talon trot is the only way to get around
I’m right there with you buddy. I find myself walking as banjo more often in the first game (when not around inclines) to be more precise and talon trot much more in the second cause it’s so HUGE
as a 4 yr old kid I was completely stumped on how to get past the first steep hill in gruntys lair to even get to mumbo mountain, i even had the 'short' banjo jump you start off with before you talk to the mole to unlock all your moves in spiral mountain. But kid me never thought about talking to the mole hills and discovered it by accident.
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"You need eggs to break the windows" - No, Rat a tat rap works better.
"Jingo" - It's Jinjo
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That was a fun challenge, good job on the video!
Thank you!
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Okay but you can't use the cheats either because you need eggs to unlock the sandcastle anyway...
His excuse was (had to go back twice because he brushed it aside so fast): he remembered mistakingly thinking Banjo was the one pooping eggs (mentioned earlier in the vid only as a funny trivia), so he then got the idea to allow it in the run, imagining it as Banjo doing it.
Im calling the police over your pronunciation of Jinjo.
Great video although.... Technically excluding the beak buster and eggs. You'd be unable to enter any of the cheat codes 😅
The swimming is one thing, but then you brush off the ground pound besides it being named after kazooie…you set rules so thus I shite on it. Should’ve kept it ‘mostly a banjo move’ take 😅
IDK man I've never seen a bear poop out eggs before 😂
Banjo Kazooie is my favorite game. Great to see content coming out in 2024
The ending of this video actually brought an interesting question to mind...
If a modder were to port all of Kazooie into Tooie, jiggy locations included, and you were to be in a constant state of split up, how many jiggies could both characters collect, and who could collect more? I want to say Banjo, since Kazooie can't swim, but Banjo can't fly, either, so it's an interesting hypothetical.
I would argue that the gameplay of BK is majority Kazooie. All Banjo can do is claw swipe (basically never used), roll, and walk/jump (both inferior to trotting and jumping using Kazooie) It's kind of wild how little Banjo is actually used. Even when swimming it's more useful to use Kazooie.
dont you have to drain sand castle first to input code which require shitting eggs so would cheats would be off limits then? not that they helped at all
You can clip through the window into the engine room which enables you to access the jiggy and notes there, and the propelar , however you need beak-buster to be able to hit the switches, so that's out. Still that would be two extra jiggies in your first count.
Itd be cool to see Banjo Tooie with only kazooie or something similar. This is a really cool challenge run!
Thank you! A banjo tooie challenge is in the plans!
that glitch to make you start in rusty bucket bay sounds like some made up playground rumor lol
I wish it was!
So not only do I have to give up Talon Trot, I also have to start in Rusty Bucket Bay? No thank you
Rusty bucket bay isn’t that bad!
Maybe do a follow up where it is assumed that every world and every note door is open and accessible (so the slope in Grunty's Lair is ignored), so you could go world by world instead of the harsh limit. Just to open up more of the game and have a better challenge.
Yeah I’m thinking I should have approached the idea as beating the game with using Kazooie as least as possible vs. not at all
Is that final caclulation correct? Did you not require the Jiggies that you colected via ground pounding in Rusty Bucket to unlock Treasuer Trove? So without ground pound, can you even access any level except Mumbo and Rusty?
The idea for this video was fundamentally flawed from the start, as you kind of admit. You can't beat Grunty without Kazooie for sure, and almost none of the moves (maybe literally none) that you learn in Grunty's Lair involve Banjo at all. It would have made a lot more sense to just make a minimum Kazooie uses video so that you could show off more of the game and more of the problem solving you have to consider to make sure you get enough Jiggies and notes to reach Grunty.
The jinjo jiggy from mumbo’s mountain also needs beak buster
Oh shit you’re right.. I guess that’s 10%
@@pressaTD You should do it for Banjo-Tooie, I bet you could do a lot more
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You should do this with all worlds, not worrying about the obstacles to getting to the worlds themselves so you can test every possible jiggy
Kind of feel like you threw in the towel WAY too early for this video... it's a really interesting question and I'm sure there are a lot of jiggies you can get if you could access the other worlds. I expected this to be a "minimum Kazooie" challenge where you'd just manually count every time you use Kazooie, with prioritizing minimizing Kazooie usage (so you'd only go back to get a jiggy you missed if you NEEDED a Kazooie required jiggy to get to the next world). Routing would be a bit of a challenge, but would probably spark community interest more.
Sadly this came out more as a "I tried this challenge, couldn't figure out the rules, messed up several times, and kind of gave up." despite opening with the quesiton "No Kazooie was out of the question, but how much do you need her" implying it's a minimum use run... Sorry, just being honest, good effort, but giving up like this isn't worth the like.
Also, I kind of disagree the backflip jump is "Kazooie", Banjo is using his legs to leap in the air from a crouching position. I guess you could say that Kazooie is using her wings to help propel him higher than his regular jump, but you let the Dive and for a long while the Ground pound slide with an excuse that "Banjo's doing all the work" and admitted several times you thought as a kid Banjo was pooping the eggs out even towards the end of the video. So just a tip since you're fairly new at this... you may want to try to put in more effort and if you fail like this, just scrap the video. Better to give us a full hearted attempt that tried everything (even if you admit a skill cap), or just upload something else entirely, than upload something where you can't seem to agree on your own rules and give up cause of that.
Best of luck in the future. You have potential. Just push yourself harder and you'll be among the greats like DPad gaming, Seer, Particular Mushroom, and other "minimalist challenge" runners in time! Some suggestions of great challenge runners who made darn sure they gave us something to watch for an hour. XD
Appreciate the constructive feedback and kind words! I understand where you’re coming from. I don’t want the video to come off as little effort, because I definitely did put in a lot of effort making this video and trying to find ways around not having to use Kazooie. I just wanted to do a run where Kazooie couldn’t be used at all, but I agree I should have done more and just kept the use of Kazooie very minimal. But as you said still pretty new and all I can do is continue to learn and make better videos. Thanks again!
yeah for some reason in banjokazooie ALL the abilities are kazooie focused. All banjo does is jump and punch, which nobody every uses since the punch is terrible lol
Haha yeah he’s truly useless on his own
I left a comment earlier about using Kazooie to get underwater and seconds after carrying on watching your video, you mention excusing that exact mechanic ahaha
Lesson learnt, don't leave a comment until you've watched the whole video XD
Great video anyways. Never realised how much Banjo could do alone.
Haha thank you! Appreciate the kind words. Was hoping Banjo could do more but still proud of his efforts
My first thought when seeing this was "oh, he's gonna use that bee transformation anywhere glitch to have access to every place" it's been forever since I watched anything banjo kazooie related so I got no clue if that'd require kazooie though. Also I don't know why but I feel like banjo had more moves than that 🤔
If I could reach Click Clock Wood I would have tried to utilize that glitch as well. And yeah I also didn’t realize how little Banjo could do alone lol. In Tooie he can do a lot more so maybe that’s what you’re thinking
@@pressaTD You could reach click clock wood through the puzzle mini game but it's really hard to do and requires you to turn off your internet and having the gameplay in the puzzle go off sync and having banjo die in the minigame to respawn at click clock wood, even then though, you'd still not be able to beat the game
Jingo? Oh, this is Bango Kazooie.
6:35 so banjo tooie's roll is 500% valid by that logic
Now i want to make a horror game of kazooie stuffing someone into a smaller metal backpack.
Also neat video.
Man, it's only been a few years, but I already forgot how big these worlds are.
When it comes to Mumbo's mountain and returning I remember a glitch back in the day where you can leave the transformation range of the bee transformation and go wherever
Also for returning from Freezeezy peek I thought that the Walrus transformation let you go up steep slopes though I haven't played for a long time
Stop calling the Jingos that
Yeah but you don’t turn into the bee until Click Clock Wood. And good call on the Walrus, can definitely get out of Freezeezy that way
Im now curious to see what a Low-Kazooie% would be. Just play through the game to see what is mathematically the least number of times you need to use Kazooie
They are called JINJO like Banjo
Gin-JOE
Actually I discovered this "hack" in the Nintendo 64 version. You have to have a Game Shark and use the L to levitate cheat. And you actually have to sit and wait for the mini demo to load. But once you're in Rusty Bucket just levitate for a few seconds then let Banjo fall. He'll be off from where he should and his auto inputs will kill him. Then you start in Rusty Bucket.
I once tried the X button challenge in Banjo Kazooie. I played nearly a decade ago, but I can rememeber that I only needed to press the X button 4 times to get to Clanker's Cavern, as far as I remember. I am not sure if that could be lowered. I tried not using the triggers as well, but I did not get very far with that one so I gave up even faster.
This is a fun challenge idea as well!
7:22 I'm sorry five what? Jin-jos my brother.
First step: cheating. Second step: using kazooie by mistake. Third: use kazooie three more times but give a different excuse each time.
Wait when did they cheat?
@@entropy-cat I think they're reffering to starting from Rusty Bucket Bay rather than the actual starting point of the game
@@nikolaast Ah, I see. That's more of an exploit than a cheat.
Yes he’s exploiting and therefore cheating his dumb run making this video pointless
@@matthewseaholm4634 All challenge runs are pointless. It's just for entertainment. A lot of challenge runs in a lot of video games require exploits of one kind or another.
Are you going to look at the world record any% speedrun of Ocarina of Time using 'Ocarina Items' to wrong-warp to the ganon castle collapse section and say 'they're cheating so it's pointless'? A cheat is a code you input, or a setting you unlock as a reward. Exploits are playing the game in a way the developers didn't intend, but they're not *cheating*
If you don't like exploits, don't watch challenge runs. Simple.
I still enjoy a challenge video, even if you can only get 11 jiggies! It's more interesting than knowing for sure you will beat the game.
Also those small colored things are pronounced jin-joes
Appreciate it. Lol and I know I’m a horrible Banjo Kazooie fan. Next time I do a Banjo video I’ll make sure I pronounce Jinjo right
Id be interested in how manny you can collect with banjo, while using kazooie where necessary. To unlock worlds and stuff but then dont use her. Like: i used her to go up the sand hills in gobis valley but didnt her for the flying carpet or somethinh like that.
Yeah in retrospect that’s probably the approach I should have taken with the video, but I wanted to see how many Jiggies you could truly get without ever using Kazooie. But I think I’m going to do this again for Tooie and take this approach
Great job. 11 jiggys is more then I woulda thought.
Thank you!
It would be neat if there was a Tooie mod for Kazooie, then you could use the split pad, and try for a truly Kazooie-free run!
This would be cool! Who knows, maybe there is already one out there. I’ll have to look into this
I have B&K on an N64 emulator and and actively use the "press L to levitate" cheat. It doesn't require Kazooie at all and works wonders. Even getting to high up places Kazooie wouldn't normally reach.
I feel like with Banjo's extended capabilities in tooie you'd have an easier time with that
I really enjoyed this challenge! Well done!
Thank you!
I do love how accurate the thumbnail is. It’s not a lot, but it certainly is more than I expected, thought Banjo would be completely useless. 😂
Liked and subsribed to you. Love these videos!
A mod for banjor tooie that lets you split up banjo and kazooie at any spot or just place a split up station at the very start of the game might be fun to test a challenge like this out
I would love that, but unfortunately Banjo Tooie is more complicated to mod
Would love to see a variation of this for Banjo Tooie (with a mod disabling the barriers ofc so you can truly go on a solo adventure). Banjo is surprisingly mobile without Kazooie when you know how to use him. His double jump in particular just feels like cheating.
Kazooie was definitely the equivalent to Mario Sunshine's F.L.U.D.D.
Love this comparison
Wow does the start glitch work on rare replay version?
My understanding is the rare replay version is the same as the emulated Xbox 360 version so I want to say yes
I haven't tried it myself, but Rare Replay uses the 360 version of BK so I'd assume it works.
Could someone possibly make a romhack for banjo-kazooie where you play as just kazooie, a la tooie's split-up pads?
Uses beak bomb...
thats why its kazooie was included in the title, you can't play the game without them
...jingo?
Lol for some reason I always pronounced it this way growing up that it’s hard for me to say Jinjo
How can you be calling the Jinjos "Jingos" when they say their own name every time you collect one?
say it like GIN-JOE
This dude rapid firing content
It helps that there are actually more than 1 dudes on the channel. I love how I didn't even realize that until they pointed it out in a video
@@kid14346 lmao same but you pointing it out
Lol we’ve been trying to make it more clear in recent videos that there’s two of us. We have some videos planned for the future where we are both in them
When I was a kid i’m pretty sure I activated the RBB glitch by accident. How? No idea, it just happened
Hopefully this doesn't come off as mean, but how did you think Jinjo was pronunced Jinggo? They say Jinjo everytime they are collected.
Not mean at all lol, I just mispronounce everything apparently
The worst part of this run has to be not using Talon Trot at all.
"What if we said [BLEEP} Kazooie?"
Artists: "Write that down! Write that down!"
But seriously, this means that Kazooie is really the heavy lifter of the duo since it's her skills that are required for 89% of the game. I would have thought it would have been more of a 70/30 percentage split, but that neglects that the double jump and Talon Trot aren't just fun ways to move around faster, but is legitimately the only way to make it around some maps.
Yeah I for sure thought Banjo could do a lot more on his own but pretty much every move involves Kazooie
Oh boy this is going to be a blast theoretically when you do banjo-Tooie you should I believe be able to hack banjo from the beginning to be by himself
That would be cool! I’m just recently learning about this hack
To get the jingo jiggy 7:21 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lol I don’t know why saying Jinjo is so hard for me
Jin GO? Jin GO???? They literally shout their own name, JinJO
I know I’m sorry!
Kinda curious how a Kazooie only run would go. You'd have to talon trot pretty much everywhere, but I feel like you'd be able to do more
You should definitely be able to do a lot more with just Kazooie, I’m just not sure how interesting of a video it would be lol. But I know a few people now have expressed the same curiosity
In speedruns of this game, they rely on the fact that there is a slight delay before banjo slips on slopes that are too steep and therefore it's possible to precisely jump up them. I think a talented speedrunner could get a lot more here.
Treasure trove cove sound track definitely still slaps
found this channel through my man Lemon, good shit
Haven’t tested it on xbox but if grunty deletes your save it gets rid of all your collectibles and abilities
Ah yes, My Favorite N64 Platformer, Banjo- !
3:36 windows not required eggs
i did the glitch second try!
Fun Fact: you could have used multiple cheat codes as, for some unclear reason, the xbox version doesn't actually delete your save data.
From the wiki: "Grunty's ability to erase your game pak doesn't appear to have the desired effect in the Xbox 360 version, as seen in a video on the subject in which the affected save file is still intact on the Xbox 360 version. It does, however, work as intended in the N64 and NS versions. However, on the Xbox 360 version, saving will be disabled until the game is restarted should too many illegal cheats be entered."
I realized this much after, but either way I’m not able to use cheat codes still since it involves using Kazooie :(
I mean, isn't the ground pound literally called the "beak bomb?"
I wonder about the inverse, how much can you do with only Kazooie. You're only aloud to walk on Kazzoie's legs and do moves involving her.
The lore explanation is Banjo never did wake up that morning, so Kazooie is just pupping him around
Now for the inverse challenge - how much can you beat with just Kazooie? And by that, we'll say any time you walk or jump, it has to involve Kazooie somehow. So always Talon Trotting or fluttering or backflipping, no regular walking or slow swimming or climbing as these involve just Banjo without Kazooie. Should make narrow walkways and sneaking a lot harder. I'm guessing you can use the same intro glitch. If not, we'll count anything after skipping Bottles tutorial.
i love to see a mod that you can do this challenge with a split pad from tooie and using all banjo skills from tooie
also i like to see a mod that one again with the split pad you can play with a friend as B or K using B&T skills in banjo Kazooie and Tooie
I wonder if you could hack solozooie from the sequel into the original.
Happy to see my glitch still useful! Where was it credited with my old name though? I transitioned 2 years ago (not a big deal)