Website Article: christitus.com/atlasos-review/ Referenced LTT Video: th-cam.com/video/dc7CIkZcWYE/w-d-xo.html Please note: I do NOT review Custom Windows ISOs. If it requires you to download an ISO from a shady file sharing site or torrent... IT SHOULD NEVER BE USED!
Am I sounds correct? If it's lite weight custom windows, can we strip down unwanted things further and make it as container for linux, since it's open source can't it good way to run windows binary in linux, for example consider vanilla os it's immutable os and have container for every possible linux, share your thoughts, I hope you will note this comment...
Hi Chris Titus Tech. I have very important questions.(For me is important your answers.) 1. When is new CTT Windows toolbox release? 2. Is it offline? 3. Is it will have Windows Update and Windows Defender delet or shut down permanently options? 4. It will support Windows 10 : a. iot enterprise ltsc 2021 ? b. enterprise ltsc 2021 ? c. pro 2004 and 2009 pro ? Thank you very much for your time and response.Have a good day.
Tried to buy your Rasberry Pi OS today & thought you should know the discount code no longer works- after logging in & filling out my Credit card info when I put in the code (ALL CAPS as per your vid TITUS50) It tells me that it's an invalid discount. I detest bait & switch tactics so I won't be buying it unless you fix the issue before the aforementioned May 2nd deadline.
Any chance at a W11 based version? Definitely a few features (HDR calibration and proper/great dx10/11 boarderless window's integration to name the big ones) would like to see. And as mentioned in the video, definitely think UAC needs to be opt-in-able, same with smart screen and defender. More transparency is always a good thing as well. I realize documentation is a pain, but it a great thing to have (even for yourself as a developer).
AtlasOS is for people who use Linux as daily driver but still need a windows virtual machine for some proprietary apps and gaming. This is the best use case for AtlasOS in my opinion. And I think Chris did a great job of explaining why people can't use AtlasOS as main operating system the main reason being some of Windows security features are disabled by the AtlasOS team. and i guess everyone knows how good is the relationship between windows and viruses. :)
You're actually right. As a fellow GNU/Linux user my virtual machines were running Windows 7 Pro but now I might finally switch to Atlas for modern feel and this might be it.
I only listen to Anthony from LTT. They need to allow him to do more Linux videos. But, since that channel is more for windows users, specifically gamers, that won't happen.
Exactly, I rarely take them seriously these days, as their Twitter account even tried the other day to spread the fudd to idiots that Linus Torvalds got bit by a Penguin has to how Tux became the mascot, and in the same post that Linus Torvalds created "Linux OS" 🤦♂️ I pointed the falsehoods out, and lord, and did I get an earful from the idiots who follow him.
I like their hardware challenge videos (e.g. "can you run this PC in a chamber with -40c temperature") but seeing their video about Atlas is like one of their biggest fault, as not all of their subscriber are aware of security issues
I understand your concerns with AtlasOS, but your concerns are actually the reason why Atlas is attractive to me. You said it perfectly when you said that it can be used as a temporary system just for certain tasks you might want to accomplish. I'm going to go ahead and pick it up and check it out for an offline device.
It's insane to me that Atlas (and ReviOS) has gotten so much attention recently (mainly due to LTT). It's been around for years, being a custom ISO at first only recently using the playbook / post install method.
However, all these tweaks etc while the desktop might feel snappier (due to animations disabled), it doesn't actually have a performance or latency impact. If anything it's worse. People have tested these tweaks with LDAT tools and other various benchmarking tools and nobody has been able to prove them wrong.
One problem I have found with atlas OS is that MS sign in being completely blocked is actually a bad thing. It means that no games that require Xbox Live (Minecraft, Microsoft Flight sim, Among Us just to name a few) will work
It's likely negligible unless you're using very low-end hardware. Many extreme steps or tweaks don't really affect performance like amount input latency or fps,
@@skittles.abuser Some tweaks are but many tweaks have none when actual testing is done. My point is 90 percent of the tweaks out there don't really help performance. Much of it is more to get rid of annoying things Microsoft has put in or if you are running on very low end system.
@@bradmiles1984 okay show me your test with default windows and new atlas, for most it wont affect fps but i think latency it can help a decent bit. for me it loads a lot faster thats for sure and my fps is a lot more stable
@@skittles.abuser Your asking me for test data but not providing your own. Have you played the same game for extended periods recording the fps on stock and atlas? Channels like Freethy have used actual testing software to test various tweaks and see effects on fps and input latency. There are very few things that actually give an appreciable effect on fps and latency. 1) Enable XMP/DCCP in bios 2) Tune the timings on your ram 3) undervolt/overclock your cpu 4) Make sure your GPU is in MSI mode 5) Set the min gpu frequency with 100mz of the max in your overclock to keep it running at a consistent mhz which helps with hitching/jittering 6) Make sure you have adequate thermals and not being thermal throttled. This isn't to say Atlas won't help older hardware which is barely passing the minimum hardware needed for games. In those cases lightening the load of the OS will have an impact on fps because the game has more resources to use which was shown in Linus video but they were using old hardware not a modern gaming rig.
So glad to see you did a video on this. Just learned about it because of the LTT video and was wondering how safe it is. Writing this comment before I actually watch the video admittedly, I installed it on a spare laptop I have and the only complaint I have about it is it seems like they really stripped the OS down to the point where you can't even add stuff like group policy editor into windows home like you normally would. I'm sure your video will shed some more light on everything for me though.
@D Reaper Stop the hate train, noone really needs to do anything to get their Windows running on their system, these stripped down system are for .. whoever .. people that apparently think they need it like that to get the system working for them. But then they have like a PC or Laptop from 2013, that was even 2013 already outdated by like 5 years. People really having 4GB RAM Systems in 2023 is not Windows fault, people still not wanting to change that 32GB SSD to a 500GB SSD for like 20 Bucks isn't Windows fault either. We all know the good ol' "The Main issue to any Problem, usually sits in front of the PC" is the classic case here. But I'm happy for you, that you enjoy your Linux.
@@Electric_Doodie you are exactly the problem my guy. You're definitely the type to just throw away a perfectly good PC based on this reply. The entire purpose of atlas OS is to repurpose old and out of date hardware that would otherwise be e-waste. If this is truly how you feel it really sucks knowing that you're definitely not the only one who feels this way. But it also makes it really apparent why the planet is literally dying from waste.
@D Reaper and anyone that buys a PC / Laptop with like 4GB of RAM or a 750 GPU or whatever, nowadays, NEW, kind of deserves that the system doesn't work. Don't get me wrong, I know that people use old, like really old hardware, but Windows 10 easily works, non modified on any 10 Year old System, even nowadays. What some of these people don't have is a SSD, their 10 Year+ old HDD is dieing, etc and yet they refuse to go the easiest route in theory and rather think a "Debloated" Windows will save it all, which it doesn't.
@@thisismelsemail1217 I don't tho, I gave away my perfectly functional system from like 2017 (with a 1070) to a friend when I didn't needed it anymore. Yet there is no reason to use a Debloated Windows for it. And people who still are on a System even older, might have completely different issues if their system is completely slowing down then just old hardware (No SSD for some, bloated over the years and never did a fresh install, etc). There's so many things that just makes these Debloated Versions obsolete in many cases, because the gains are so marginal / non existent at all.
@@Electric_Doodie well my laptop fro. 2011 disagrees with your statement. Running an old AF pentium CPU and 4 gigs of ram, it just simply can't run windows 10. I've been stuck running windows 7 on it despite the security risks. Now I can at least run windows 10 and have slightly less security risks and the creature comforts of win 10. It's all to each their own, I just strongly disagree
I'm a software developer and I use Atlas OS as a VM image for testing. So far, I have not come across any problems with things either working or not working that don't also behave the same way when deployed on our own desktop images within the org. Basically, I use it as a sanity check. Once it works on my VM, I give it to IT for deployment testing, with a fair amount of confidence that I'm not wasting their time. For me, the lack of security, small size, and tiny resource footprint are kind of the point. My hope is that the scripts will ultimately be flexible enough to include or exclude security features for those of us who either like to live dangerously or who sandbox it as a testing environment.
@Fancy Tophat Indeed. I also develop for Linux and try to stay in that OS as much as I can. I personally jumped ship a couple of years ago, but, for better or for worse, I was a Windows desktop dev for a long time, and my org has lots of those still in use.
yer a bullshitter AtlosOS marketer. If you are in the industry you CLAIM you are in, youve been using DISM, SCCM, InTUNE, NTLite and GPO for a DECADE(S). The only thing this project does that ISNT ALREADY standard practice- is ripping out defender and SPECTRE mitigations. Typical virtualization platforms are so CPU rich, that disabling SPECTRE mitigations in the VM image, or NOT -- is mostly inconsequential. Its generally considered a waste of time. I distrust this Project because of the validation they seek
I'm a CG artist and looking at installing it to see if it improves render times, but mainly latency. I can't stand how slow W10 even with all the registry optimizations and bloatware removed. As far as security, I don't care if Defender or whatever Pedosoft installed isn't there. I have better tools for that. I just want speed. If people stopped watching sites they shouldn't be at, their computers wouldn't be infected as often, it's common sense. There was an article a while back the author showed how unnecessary antivirus are nowadays with modern software. I mainly go to a few safe sites, and that's it. If anybody is worried about security, they can install it on a separate drive or something.
Might be kind of silly but MSPaint being removed would be a real bummer for me. I don't use it for anything major but I use it for a lot of quick tasks because it's easy to use to accomplish some simple tasks.
This is my thoughts on this Chris and yes I watched the LTT video, I can see myself maybe using this in a duel boot situation possibly running this as a Gaming only OS and then duel booting a more secure OS for anything else. I definitely think Atlas has hit a homerun with this in terms of creating a better suited OS for gaming, but I'm in agreence with you on the holes this leaves in security. I wouldn't do my banking on it lets just put it that way and leave it there. I think I'd duel boot this and use some type of more secure Linux Distro for those sorts of tasks. Cheers
Here is my take on it. The update system of Windows 10 and 11 is extremely aggressive. It downloads updates without your permission and installs them without your permission. Even if you specifically tell Windows 10/11 to stop updating (*turn off automatic updates*), it will STILL update. If you stop the service for automatic updates, another service will start that service again. If you disable ALL services that have anything to do with automatic updates AND you edit the registry to disable it, Windows 10/11 will still find a way to update. I, for example, followed a very complicated TH-cam tutorial on how to disable automatic updates on Windows 10/11 once and for all, which included turning it off, persistently disabling four services, going into the registry and changing many lines there... and I thought it worked... until Windows 10 started updating again... The only way to stop automatic updates on Windows 10/11 without shutting off Internet, is to completely break Windows 10/11. Not disabling some things, but actually destroying it. Cripple it. Cutting off its arms and legs. Make it such that Windows 10/11 simply *cannot* update any more, because all body parts responsible for that are cut off, at the very base. That is the only way to stop automatic updates. So, I hail AtlasOS for doing that! 😀 It's like a robot that keeps walking, despite you having pressed the button 100000 times to stop walking. Then you use the physical switch to remove the connection to its legs, but the robot - somehow - still manages to use those mechanical legs. Then you cut off the wires leading to those legs. The robot now stops walking, but after a while, it starts moving its legs again. Then you physically remove the robot's mechanical legs, so that no matter what, the robot just *can't* walk any more, because the legs are missing. That is the only way to disable automatic updates with Windows 10/11. Not trying to disable things, but remove them. Remove them completely. Completely cut off part of the system. Remove the robot's mechanical legs. Only then, the system stops updating.
@@kiwd-dynamic. I don't know what YOU are talking about. Windows 10 and 11 don't give a "Download updates" button. They just download and install those updates. Your desire does not matter; Windows 10/11 decide for you. The only way to stop this, is to either disconnect from the Internet, either demolish a large number of services and registry entries in Windows 10/11 to make Windows 10/11 incapable of updating. I did the latter. It took some effort, but now Windows 10 has finally stopped updating. 🙂
@@markwieringComing from Windows 8.1 and had to try Windows 11 on my work office computer yeah it frustrated me really bad. Oh I'm currently building my first ever PC (AM5) and since I was coming from older laptop, is my option for Windows 11 only limited to either A) Chris Titus Debloat or B) AtlasOS? I don't want to constantly update and I'm planning to mostly game on the newly built PC. Also should I get the 11 Pro one if going with option A?
I think installing ReviOS through the ISO is much better than using playbook by an infinite amount of times, because playbook isn't the most stable and it's better to install the drivers you want, not the ones that are automatically installed. ReviOS also has a playbook as well.
I'm really happy with the choices the Atlas devs made, also the security ones. My usecase is I am a musician, I play vst's on my dedicated laptop in Cantabile, and I don't want any random virus scan starting when I am in a pianosolo. Also, it is always offline. My OS needs a fileexplorer, a startbutton, and that's it.
its a dedicated task OS, so theres that, as far my experience, IT KICKS ASS !!!! ITS GOOOD if you only want to use 1 apliction, like music making, or video editing, or graphics design, WITHOUT all the BS in the background, soooo good !!!!! i like it a lot !!! I DO RECOMMEND FOR DEDICATED TASKS
So for a completely isolated machine, out of the network, say, not to do any kind of social stuff, browsing the internet etc, this would be great, to use exclusively as a CADD workstation for renderings and dedicated solely to work. sounds too good to be true. Thanks for sharing Chris. (BTW, I find somewhat confusing downloading the OS from their site at least to try it in a VM)
Thanks for the PSA! As it's kind of touted as a gaming OS and most games have to be run online now, not having security features is just asking for trouble.
Thanks! From Average Joe Tired of my wife complaining about Windows Slow-down and your warning on Atlas! Instead I'm installing other tools you recommended
Hopefully they add a way to customize the optimization process. Thanks for giving it a spin and sharing your thoughts. I'll keep on eye on Altus since I like the idea but you're right to much is removed to be put on a daily driver.
@@radnotred since you guys apparently name your self tech enthusiasts, how come, that you guys by default made Atlas the way it is (aka actually bad, by removing even the most important features, like Trim/Defrag, etc)? I really wish to know how you guys decided on what to disable and what to keep enabled.
@@rFey I still wouldn't disable Trim for a SSD. And since Atlas is supposed to be for weak systems, which might not even have SSD, Defrag is still a valuable feature for these HDDs.
@@rFey it is, what Atlas Team is saying about it tho, mostly (but looks like their website didn't had any real update in ages too). And their Benchmarks on the website, aren't really for any "High End Gaming" either. As I said tho in another comment tho, for what it is, it seems more like some Reddit Guys did some Reddit Research and made AtlasOS as per what Reddit recommends.
I was fully expecting this video to just be you dogging on Atlas for 16 minutes, but you brought up a lot of good points and were very constructive about it, nice video.
We are forgetting what are the operating systems for. They're for: 1. Managing processes, memory, threads, mutexes / semaphores, etc. 2. Managing files and filesystems. 3. To support network (protocols stack, certificates, etc). 4. Managing devices. Current Windows is a huge bloatware. My corporate laptop Windows directory is 43 GB! And it was freshly installed less than a year ago. With time it grows even larger! I'm nostalgic about Windows NT 4.0, which needed a couple of hundreds of megabytes. Yes, now there're cooler filesystems, different hardware, different network protocols. But it shouldn't consume so much disk space! And we do have examples - there're a lot of modern tiny Linux distrtos, consuming less than 1GB of disk space. And they're on a modern kernels, they're secure. I do not need Windows Defender (It never catched any virus in my history), I hate meltdown mitigations. I never used restore points (I always disable them). They rarely helped me in case of problems with Windows and it's pretty easy to re-intall Windows and my set of tools. I'm using Atlas in KVM, it saves a ton of disk space and it's much more responsible.
Thanks for this video. I saw LTTs video yesterday and I went to your page looking for a review, lol. I am no gamer so I wouldn't use this, I have been strictly Linux since last year June. But, I always appreciate your honest and unbiased input. Thanks again.
And right after i asked brodie Robertson on whether he'd go for atlas or your script, you made a video. Glad to know your opinion on this, i did cringe when i saw the list of removed stuff on the ltt video
I'm copying a comment i left on another atlas video but i really liked your take on it you expanded on some things i was curious about. In my experience so far the performance gains are almost too hard to ignore. It's made a little gateway folding netbook/tablet with a Celeron an 4gb of ram and 60gb of storage a completely usable computer again. it is actually faster to start and run basic stuff than my gaming laptop. I rarely used the computer prior to atlas because it was very slow and then ran out of storage during a windows update. Now the pc is very responsive and performing far beyond what i ever expected from the hardware. Between the responsiveness of the system and the battery life and convenience of folding it to tablet mode I've found it to be my go to pc for anything simple and quick. That all being said i may look into the uac stuff and maybe antivirus but im not logged into anything on it so whatever if it dies i'll wipe it again
Just for fun, I decided to install it on an old 4 core/4 thread CPU / DDR2 'puter and with just it and an SSD instead of a spinner, it is VERY snappy! It feels just as fast or faster than my I9 9900K rig, on which I have as stripped down as possible version of Winders' 11. I have more playing with it to go to finish checking it out, but so far, other than the security concerns, it's great.
11:28 I 100% disagree. Taking what they've done and completely deleting it is exactly what Atlas should do. It's up to the user to implement their own security features and software, and enable/disable them when needed. Atlas is the blank paper and you've got the pen. That's the whole point. Whether it's being mismarketed is an entirely different thing.
Hi! I've been using Atlas for a year, and I had 0 problems. I ran into no virus, nothing malfunctioned, and the installation was a piece of cake. I was able to run all games with no problems and a huge FPS boost, and I could even run some games in higher settings with the same FPS I had in normal windows using low settings. I don't recommend it to people who are bad with tech and follow instructions, though.
@@robineftw I like to hook my computer up to my TV and play games with the wireless controller sometimes. My point was about Atlas not about you personally.
Hi! What is the best custom ISO of Windows 11 with support for PT-BR to replace ChomeOS on a chromebook with a Celeron N4020 1.10GHz, 32GB of ROM and 4GB of RAM?
What I want to know is, if this would be perfect to be used on a standalone pc, to be mainly used for gaming? The lan networking concerns me for security reasons. I wouldn't want to put my whole network at risk for sakes of enjoying optimal gaming....
Hi Titus, great video! Would you mind looking at new MSMG Toolkit 13.3 for creating custom Windows 10 ISO? I have watched your previous videos but with newer version seems lot of options have been added.
Chris, if you have an Atlas box and only used something like Steam for games and nothing much else, are there any security concerns? You’re not checking mail or surfing - where is the risk?
Tried to buy your Rasberry Pi OS today & thought you should know the discount code no longer works- after logging in & filling out my Credit card info when I put in the code (ALL CAPS as per your vid TITUS50) It tells me that it's an invalid discount. I detest bait & switch tactics so I won't be buying it unless you fix the issue before the aforementioned May 2nd deadline.
I immediately thought of you and your debloat script when i watched that LTT video. The longer linus went on the more i thought exactly what you said in this video. I don't think Linus cautioned people enough of how dangerous AtlasOS can be.
Thanks for this video. I was looking at Win 10 Enterprise LTSC before AtlasOS crossed my path. I'm also now aware of debloat options but know next to nothing about them, so I'll be doing research on what's out there. Sadly I'll need to upgrade my OS next year so crunch time is getting close.
When it comes to custom Windows isos I would just use one of the ones from Windows X lite because they have option in the installer to have Windows defender or not and I bet all the security features are there and even Windows updates work you just have to resume them. The only negative thing about the isos from Windows x lite is page file/virtual memory is disabled but enabling it is easy to do by clicking on their custom enabler to enable virtual memory.
Chris, you said you get red flags from downloading an ISO, but you're all cool with tools that inject code into the ISO you're about to install. I mean I do understand what you're saying on the red flag for some modded OS ISO. Make your statement(s) make sense in their comparative please. I know I think too much, that's why I started learning COBOL in 1976 on a Burroughs. I enjoy your channel, thank you. Had to throw you and old school smile of course.
I run this on my gaming PC although I literally only use it for gaming. So I've installed geforce experience, logitech ghub, steam, and a handful of other game launchers. And that's all I plan to ever install. For me, it's a great experience.
After your video on Tiny11 I was waiting for this one. Glad to hear there are good parts about it. If I was to install it, it would be for an older gaming only PC or my old Surface Pro 2, but I won't bother until they stop removing the security focused applications like Defender. As always Chris, love your content. I've been in the computer industry for around 25 years, but you're never too professional to keep learning new things and I always learn something new from you.
I thought of you when I watched that LTT video. I know it's not "secure" if it stripes out windows defender, but do you think that Atlas itself could come with malware? I thought maybe with the playbook it could be verified, but then I read on their website that they give you an iso. I'm a bit confused by the two distribution strategies
@@MarcelRobitaille That is very true. Never download an ISO that isn't from microsoft. But this is exactly the reason why Atlas is "safe". Or at least it's safe to install unlike custom ISOs. Probably not very safe to use unless you know what you are doing.
Using the TRIM command reduces the amount of data an SSD needs to move during the garbage collection process and reduces the amount of erase cycles, enabling the drive to last longer. By avoiding unnecessary copying of invalid data, the write performance of the drive speeds up.
This is going to be a long question. I have a Dell XPS 15 9500 Core i5. I used to have windows 11 that used Chris's debloating tool. Worked with no issues. But recently something happend (nothing related to the tool) and I had to resort to reinstalling windows 11, but this time the debloater tool is not removing the Edge completly. It's functionality is gone, but its still there. I have been wondering with there custom window ISO, and been seeing Atlas os and Revi os being mentioned alot. Excluding using the tool again on a fresh install of windows 11. Which custom ISO would you recommned for a daily driver use, mostly for python programming, web browsing and docs and stuff.
Hey man this is pure GOLD imagine how many vm's running bots u can do with all this crap stiped out like windows updates uac defender this is pure gold, ty for showcasing it.
I only need Windows to have Daylight in my Apartment. No seriously: I only need Windows to update my Alpha Cameras and Xperia Phones. If I don't run Mails and a Browser it should be fine with Atlas?
I always I'm searching in the net for that "slim", "tiny", "ultra", "lite", Windoze stripped, cannibalized, unsecure and light Windows 1x... and I have to say, AtlasOS break the magic barrier not only achieving a less of 50 process Windows, also, is functional, no gimmicks, no tricks, and it takes to a new standard, a very thin and powerful Windows, that can be used in the real world... well, in our daily life, and it feels always snappier, fast and beautiful to use. I'm amazed.
If i install the non-iso version on my windows 10 will it still keep my antivirus and my games on my c drive installed, drivers etc? Super curious using an i7 Alienware Alpha R1
Hi Chris Titus Tech. I have very important questions.(For me is important your answers.) 1. When is new CTT Windows toolbox release? 2. Is it offline? 3. Is it will have Windows Update and Windows Defender delet or shut down permanently options? 4. It will support Windows 10 : a. iot enterprise ltsc 2021 ? b. enterprise ltsc 2021 ? c. pro 2004 and 2009 ? Thank you very much for your time and response.Have a good day.
Nice vid Chris. here is an idea ...how about create a video about PC Recovery tools? I was thinking about using Hirens but then came across MediCat? which would be the best option to go with?
How do you install this into a virtual machine (VMWare, in my case)? I'm looking at the installation instructions on their website, and it's not exactly leaping out at me. BTW I consider these security considerations to be a red herring, as MS has made a total bloated farce of Windows, but I need to run W10 in a virtual machine still in order to get some work done, and I need every last CPU cycle I can get. I don't click on phishing emails (I wouldn't even use email in this VM) and I have snapshots to roll back to.
I enjoy your Videos Chris, Atlas sounds exactly like what I want lol. Been doing this for 40 years so I'm no noob here. And frankly, I don't want any of Window's so-called security. I've been running 7 bare metal for a number of years now and I see no reason to re-add any now. But I get where you're coming from for those who don't have a clue what they are doing it's risky. I stopped all Windows updates and neutered Defender when they started putting Windows 10 updates in critical updates. That really pissed me off! But now I'm at the point where most major browsers have stopped updating and I guess I'm forced to move on kicking and screaming :) This should be an interesting experiment.
Chris why did you not say that they removed defender but that you can install any antivirus yourself if you want to have one, most people who need to have an antivirus install third party ones themsleves... feels a bit disingenuous to highlight so much on security when it can be handled by third party software, the point of this was to remove windows bloatware and make it a snappy windows experience and they did achieve that by removing most of windows background stuff which includes the windows security.
But if I never got a virus / a warning that I have virus on my PC / anything like that. Why do I need defender? I used official windows for many years but I just don't see a benefit to having that run in the background since I never downloaded anything with a virus.
Altlas OS seems interesting, but I wouldn't use it as a daily driver. Most likely in a VM I read on the Atlas website it still needs a windows licence to activate the windows part of it. Is it possible to run it without and un-activated in a VM. Its not like I'd be using windows all the time.
Can you make a video how to dual boot Windows 11 with secure boot enable and a Linux distro? I've been trying to do it, but it's been very difficult or i'm doing something wrong
Hey new to the channel here, I heard atlas adds reg keys that are perminate on the os (even after reset) that can make anyone that works with atlas tap into peoples computers?
This should prob be updated, this is a very old version. I've played around with a lot of operating systems and tweaks , this OS was so easy to install and gave me a solid improvement on global performance. I'm a bit of a gamer and it gave me very solid increases in FPS. It gives you security options when installing. Their website has also been updated. I've never left a review before for a OS but I did it on trustpilot just for this OS.
I just installed atlus on an old machine a couple weeks ago and all windows update, and defender as well as malware are included you have an option to install it during installation
Chris, why are you now saying we should have windows security features, when a couple months ago you explained how useless those security features are, and even showed how to make a custom windows ISO that doesn't have any security stuff in it?
I tried it out on a already installed version of Windows, did the job BUT! It locked me out as I used fingerprint login and lost access to network drives.
I'm glad this exists. Not everyone wants security features forced down their throats. If you want to make security nerds happy you'd end up with stock Windows anyways...
Exactly. Security features basically become bloat at some point, especially on older/weaker hardware. Of course Chris probably sees no performance loss from "VBS" for example, but he's probably using a pretty recent and high end machine.... not some lower end 10 year old machine that may have issues.
Removing Internet Explorer / Edge fully is impossible without breaking many apps. There are so many apps that depend on WinForms BrowserView (Internet Explorer) or WebView2 (Edge).
Still running Windows 7 in 2023. Virus free. Issue free. For the last 10 years. The first thing I do is disable Windows Defender, Superfetch, Windows Aero, Windows Search Indexer, WIndows Update. So how could I and can I run virus free for that long, with zero worries. Simple. I don't download and try random crrp from anywhere and everywhere. I did all that back in the 90's. Now I know exactly what I need and use, and who the publisher it is it comes from. If you never download install software from a sketchy third party site, from pirate bay (cracked and loaded with viruses), etc... if you never install anything with a virus... you never get a virus. It's... just... that... simple. You don't need to nor do you want to run Antivirus software on your PC all the time. That's like running snow tires on your car year around in the Southern United States. And if I were, for whatever reason to get a virus, this is what I do. You can't "clean" a PC any more Viruses are now payloaded to install a plethora of multiple attacks. There is no cleaning. There is only reformatting. Get your files off the drive, then reformat and reinstall a fresh copy of windows. I haven't had to do that though in 10 years. Back in the 1990's when I was trying to get my hands on expensive cracked software off of Piratebay or Limewire... OMG... yeah. Don't. There is no honor amoung crackers like in the 90's. Hard for me to say, but sad but true... you're better off paying for a lite version of the software you want just to be virus free. A lot of the things you are fraking out in this video... don't matter. Microsoft telemetry harvesting though.. yeah that does matter. If I can't get Windows 7 with USB drivers rolled into it to run on my new Ryzen 7950x, I'm going to at least be evaluating Atlas (uggh, ha8t3 10/11) as a last ditch effort before installing Arch and trying to botch my way around running windows apps under linux, which has never ever worked for me. Mainly, I need Sony Vegas.
Am I sounds correct? If it's lite weight custom windows, can we strip down unwanted things further and make it as container for linux, since it's open source can't it good way to run windows binary in linux, for example consider vanilla os it's immutable os and have container for every possible linux, I am open to discuss, share your thoughts, I hope someone will note this comment...
Website Article: christitus.com/atlasos-review/
Referenced LTT Video: th-cam.com/video/dc7CIkZcWYE/w-d-xo.html
Please note: I do NOT review Custom Windows ISOs. If it requires you to download an ISO from a shady file sharing site or torrent... IT SHOULD NEVER BE USED!
Am I sounds correct? If it's lite weight custom windows, can we strip down unwanted things further and make it as container for linux, since it's open source can't it good way to run windows binary in linux, for example consider vanilla os it's immutable os and have container for every possible linux, share your thoughts, I hope you will note this comment...
Hi Chris Titus Tech. I have very important questions.(For me is important your answers.)
1. When is new CTT Windows toolbox release?
2. Is it offline?
3. Is it will have Windows Update and Windows Defender delet or shut down permanently options?
4. It will support Windows 10 : a. iot enterprise ltsc 2021 ?
b. enterprise ltsc 2021 ?
c. pro 2004 and 2009 pro ?
Thank you very much for your time and response.Have a good day.
Yes
Tried to buy your Rasberry Pi OS today & thought you should know the discount code no longer works- after logging in & filling out my Credit card info when I put in the code (ALL CAPS as per your vid TITUS50) It tells me that it's an invalid discount. I detest bait & switch tactics so I won't be buying it unless you fix the issue before the aforementioned May 2nd deadline.
would AtlasOS work well as Parallels on MacOS?
Hey, main atlas dev here :). Thanks for all suggestions, and we are happy to be featured here.
Any chance at a W11 based version? Definitely a few features (HDR calibration and proper/great dx10/11 boarderless window's integration to name the big ones) would like to see.
And as mentioned in the video, definitely think UAC needs to be opt-in-able, same with smart screen and defender.
More transparency is always a good thing as well. I realize documentation is a pain, but it a great thing to have (even for yourself as a developer).
Any way we can send crash data to you see what's going on outa 3 tests rigs a 10900K seems to be super unstable almost windows 98 levels of bad.
@he3als they've been saying windows 11 coming soon for months now.. almost a year..
@@shadowarez1337 my boy what did u do lmao
@@skittles.abuser installed it used the tool restarted and it sharted on itself after reboot 🤦♂️
AtlasOS is for people who use Linux as daily driver but still need a windows virtual machine for some proprietary apps and gaming. This is the best use case for AtlasOS in my opinion. And I think Chris did a great job of explaining why people can't use AtlasOS as main operating system the main reason being some of Windows security features are disabled by the AtlasOS team. and i guess everyone knows how good is the relationship between windows and viruses. :)
@dreaper5813 Then why are you posting here? Everyone on earth knows that some folks don't need any version of Windows on their machines.
Very good opinion
@@jesse7631 this guy just wants attention replying to all comments saying he uses linux as if anyone cares
@dreaper5813 You haven't "proved a point". Do you really think stating a personal opinion is proving something?
You're actually right. As a fellow GNU/Linux user my virtual machines were running Windows 7 Pro but now I might finally switch to Atlas for modern feel and this might be it.
This is why i look at LTT as an entertainment channel, not a HOWTO channel.
I like seeing what they do, but i dont ever take any advice from them.
I only listen to Anthony from LTT. They need to allow him to do more Linux videos. But, since that channel is more for windows users, specifically gamers, that won't happen.
But LTT is more informal then Markass
@@burhanbudak6041 Watch Gamers Nexus if you want real details.
Exactly, I rarely take them seriously these days, as their Twitter account even tried the other day to spread the fudd to idiots that Linus Torvalds got bit by a Penguin has to how Tux became the mascot, and in the same post that Linus Torvalds created "Linux OS" 🤦♂️ I pointed the falsehoods out, and lord, and did I get an earful from the idiots who follow him.
I like their hardware challenge videos (e.g. "can you run this PC in a chamber with -40c temperature") but seeing their video about Atlas is like one of their biggest fault, as not all of their subscriber are aware of security issues
Thank you so much for making this video!
I understand your concerns with AtlasOS, but your concerns are actually the reason why Atlas is attractive to me. You said it perfectly when you said that it can be used as a temporary system just for certain tasks you might want to accomplish. I'm going to go ahead and pick it up and check it out for an offline device.
Your proverbial honesty without being mean is refreshing and why I trust you like a close friend. You are a good man Mr.Titus!
It's insane to me that Atlas (and ReviOS) has gotten so much attention recently (mainly due to LTT). It's been around for years, being a custom ISO at first only recently using the playbook / post install method.
However, all these tweaks etc while the desktop might feel snappier (due to animations disabled), it doesn't actually have a performance or latency impact. If anything it's worse. People have tested these tweaks with LDAT tools and other various benchmarking tools and nobody has been able to prove them wrong.
it being snappier is not because of disabled animations lmao, it simply loads things faster and has a looot less going on at once
It gives around 3-7% fps improvement in heavy games. For other games competitive games barely any improvement.
@@skittles.abuser I've used Atlas and compared to my (mostly) stock install, it's the same.
@@griffin1366 Yeah...So if you want any performance difference just use the Ghost Spectre Compact
One problem I have found with atlas OS is that MS sign in being completely blocked is actually a bad thing. It means that no games that require Xbox Live (Minecraft, Microsoft Flight sim, Among Us just to name a few) will work
I would be curious to see performance difference between something extreme like this, and something more gentler like your decrapify script.
It's likely negligible unless you're using very low-end hardware. Many extreme steps or tweaks don't really affect performance like amount input latency or fps,
@@bradmiles1984 well input latency is where tweaks actually are worth it, not much about fps unless low end rig
@@skittles.abuser Some tweaks are but many tweaks have none when actual testing is done. My point is 90 percent of the tweaks out there don't really help performance. Much of it is more to get rid of annoying things Microsoft has put in or if you are running on very low end system.
@@bradmiles1984 okay show me your test with default windows and new atlas, for most it wont affect fps but i think latency it can help a decent bit. for me it loads a lot faster thats for sure and my fps is a lot more stable
@@skittles.abuser Your asking me for test data but not providing your own. Have you played the same game for extended periods recording the fps on stock and atlas? Channels like Freethy have used actual testing software to test various tweaks and see effects on fps and input latency. There are very few things that actually give an appreciable effect on fps and latency.
1) Enable XMP/DCCP in bios
2) Tune the timings on your ram
3) undervolt/overclock your cpu
4) Make sure your GPU is in MSI mode
5) Set the min gpu frequency with 100mz of the max in your overclock to keep it running at a consistent mhz which helps with hitching/jittering
6) Make sure you have adequate thermals and not being thermal throttled.
This isn't to say Atlas won't help older hardware which is barely passing the minimum hardware needed for games. In those cases lightening the load of the OS will have an impact on fps because the game has more resources to use which was shown in Linus video but they were using old hardware not a modern gaming rig.
So glad to see you did a video on this. Just learned about it because of the LTT video and was wondering how safe it is. Writing this comment before I actually watch the video admittedly, I installed it on a spare laptop I have and the only complaint I have about it is it seems like they really stripped the OS down to the point where you can't even add stuff like group policy editor into windows home like you normally would. I'm sure your video will shed some more light on everything for me though.
@D Reaper Stop the hate train, noone really needs to do anything to get their Windows running on their system, these stripped down system are for .. whoever .. people that apparently think they need it like that to get the system working for them.
But then they have like a PC or Laptop from 2013, that was even 2013 already outdated by like 5 years.
People really having 4GB RAM Systems in 2023 is not Windows fault, people still not wanting to change that 32GB SSD to a 500GB SSD for like 20 Bucks isn't Windows fault either.
We all know the good ol' "The Main issue to any Problem, usually sits in front of the PC" is the classic case here.
But I'm happy for you, that you enjoy your Linux.
@@Electric_Doodie you are exactly the problem my guy. You're definitely the type to just throw away a perfectly good PC based on this reply. The entire purpose of atlas OS is to repurpose old and out of date hardware that would otherwise be e-waste. If this is truly how you feel it really sucks knowing that you're definitely not the only one who feels this way. But it also makes it really apparent why the planet is literally dying from waste.
@D Reaper and anyone that buys a PC / Laptop with like 4GB of RAM or a 750 GPU or whatever, nowadays, NEW, kind of deserves that the system doesn't work.
Don't get me wrong, I know that people use old, like really old hardware, but Windows 10 easily works, non modified on any 10 Year old System, even nowadays. What some of these people don't have is a SSD, their 10 Year+ old HDD is dieing, etc and yet they refuse to go the easiest route in theory and rather think a "Debloated" Windows will save it all, which it doesn't.
@@thisismelsemail1217 I don't tho, I gave away my perfectly functional system from like 2017 (with a 1070) to a friend when I didn't needed it anymore.
Yet there is no reason to use a Debloated Windows for it. And people who still are on a System even older, might have completely different issues if their system is completely slowing down then just old hardware (No SSD for some, bloated over the years and never did a fresh install, etc).
There's so many things that just makes these Debloated Versions obsolete in many cases, because the gains are so marginal / non existent at all.
@@Electric_Doodie well my laptop fro. 2011 disagrees with your statement. Running an old AF pentium CPU and 4 gigs of ram, it just simply can't run windows 10. I've been stuck running windows 7 on it despite the security risks. Now I can at least run windows 10 and have slightly less security risks and the creature comforts of win 10. It's all to each their own, I just strongly disagree
I'm a software developer and I use Atlas OS as a VM image for testing. So far, I have not come across any problems with things either working or not working that don't also behave the same way when deployed on our own desktop images within the org. Basically, I use it as a sanity check. Once it works on my VM, I give it to IT for deployment testing, with a fair amount of confidence that I'm not wasting their time. For me, the lack of security, small size, and tiny resource footprint are kind of the point. My hope is that the scripts will ultimately be flexible enough to include or exclude security features for those of us who either like to live dangerously or who sandbox it as a testing environment.
@Fancy Tophat Indeed. I also develop for Linux and try to stay in that OS as much as I can. I personally jumped ship a couple of years ago, but, for better or for worse, I was a Windows desktop dev for a long time, and my org has lots of those still in use.
yer a bullshitter AtlosOS marketer. If you are in the industry you CLAIM you are in, youve been using DISM, SCCM, InTUNE, NTLite and GPO for a DECADE(S). The only thing this project does that ISNT ALREADY standard practice- is ripping out defender and SPECTRE mitigations. Typical virtualization platforms are so CPU rich, that disabling SPECTRE mitigations in the VM image, or NOT -- is mostly inconsequential. Its generally considered a waste of time. I distrust this Project because of the validation they seek
I'm a CG artist and looking at installing it to see if it improves render times, but mainly latency. I can't stand how slow W10 even with all the registry optimizations and bloatware removed. As far as security, I don't care if Defender or whatever Pedosoft installed isn't there. I have better tools for that. I just want speed. If people stopped watching sites they shouldn't be at, their computers wouldn't be infected as often, it's common sense. There was an article a while back the author showed how unnecessary antivirus are nowadays with modern software. I mainly go to a few safe sites, and that's it.
If anybody is worried about security, they can install it on a separate drive or something.
Might be kind of silly but MSPaint being removed would be a real bummer for me. I don't use it for anything major but I use it for a lot of quick tasks because it's easy to use to accomplish some simple tasks.
It should be noted that this is specifically for gaming....
just reinstall it
Krita is a pretty good paint program, and it's FOSS.
i run atlas but paint is there for me
This is my thoughts on this Chris and yes I watched the LTT video, I can see myself maybe using this in a duel boot situation possibly running this as a Gaming only OS and then duel booting a more secure OS for anything else. I definitely think Atlas has hit a homerun with this in terms of creating a better suited OS for gaming, but I'm in agreence with you on the holes this leaves in security. I wouldn't do my banking on it lets just put it that way and leave it there. I think I'd duel boot this and use some type of more secure Linux Distro for those sorts of tasks. Cheers
Here is my take on it.
The update system of Windows 10 and 11 is extremely aggressive. It downloads updates without your permission and installs them without your permission. Even if you specifically tell Windows 10/11 to stop updating (*turn off automatic updates*), it will STILL update.
If you stop the service for automatic updates, another service will start that service again. If you disable ALL services that have anything to do with automatic updates AND you edit the registry to disable it, Windows 10/11 will still find a way to update.
I, for example, followed a very complicated TH-cam tutorial on how to disable automatic updates on Windows 10/11 once and for all, which included turning it off, persistently disabling four services, going into the registry and changing many lines there... and I thought it worked... until Windows 10 started updating again...
The only way to stop automatic updates on Windows 10/11 without shutting off Internet, is to completely break Windows 10/11. Not disabling some things, but actually destroying it. Cripple it. Cutting off its arms and legs. Make it such that Windows 10/11 simply *cannot* update any more, because all body parts responsible for that are cut off, at the very base.
That is the only way to stop automatic updates. So, I hail AtlasOS for doing that! 😀
It's like a robot that keeps walking, despite you having pressed the button 100000 times to stop walking. Then you use the physical switch to remove the connection to its legs, but the robot - somehow - still manages to use those mechanical legs. Then you cut off the wires leading to those legs. The robot now stops walking, but after a while, it starts moving its legs again.
Then you physically remove the robot's mechanical legs, so that no matter what, the robot just *can't* walk any more, because the legs are missing.
That is the only way to disable automatic updates with Windows 10/11. Not trying to disable things, but remove them. Remove them completely. Completely cut off part of the system. Remove the robot's mechanical legs. Only then, the system stops updating.
I think you hate robots
@@araiso8672.
Not really. I love robots! 😀
I just gave an example of something physical (robots) to visualise what I was trying to say! 🙂
I have never had Windows 10 nor 11 download and install updates unless I manually click the Download button. I dont know what you are talking about.
@@kiwd-dynamic.
I don't know what YOU are talking about. Windows 10 and 11 don't give a "Download updates" button. They just download and install those updates. Your desire does not matter; Windows 10/11 decide for you.
The only way to stop this, is to either disconnect from the Internet, either demolish a large number of services and registry entries in Windows 10/11 to make Windows 10/11 incapable of updating.
I did the latter. It took some effort, but now Windows 10 has finally stopped updating. 🙂
@@markwieringComing from Windows 8.1 and had to try Windows 11 on my work office computer yeah it frustrated me really bad. Oh I'm currently building my first ever PC (AM5) and since I was coming from older laptop, is my option for Windows 11 only limited to either A) Chris Titus Debloat or B) AtlasOS? I don't want to constantly update and I'm planning to mostly game on the newly built PC. Also should I get the 11 Pro one if going with option A?
I think installing ReviOS through the ISO is much better than using playbook by an infinite amount of times, because playbook isn't the most stable and it's better to install the drivers you want, not the ones that are automatically installed. ReviOS also has a playbook as well.
I'm really happy with the choices the Atlas devs made, also the security ones. My usecase is I am a musician, I play vst's on my dedicated laptop in Cantabile, and I don't want any random virus scan starting when I am in a pianosolo. Also, it is always offline. My OS needs a fileexplorer, a startbutton, and that's it.
Also, it's a cool laptop and i have now multibooted it with Atlas and normal Win11 for everything else, which is nothing really.
its a dedicated task OS, so theres that, as far my experience, IT KICKS ASS !!!! ITS GOOOD if you only want to use 1 apliction, like music making, or video editing, or graphics design, WITHOUT all the BS in the background, soooo good !!!!! i like it a lot !!! I DO RECOMMEND FOR DEDICATED TASKS
So for a completely isolated machine, out of the network, say, not to do any kind of social stuff, browsing the internet etc, this would be great, to use exclusively as a CADD workstation for renderings and dedicated solely to work. sounds too good to be true. Thanks for sharing Chris. (BTW, I find somewhat confusing downloading the OS from their site at least to try it in a VM)
Thanks for the PSA! As it's kind of touted as a gaming OS and most games have to be run online now, not having security features is just asking for trouble.
Thanks! From Average Joe Tired of my wife complaining about Windows Slow-down and your warning on Atlas! Instead I'm installing other tools you recommended
Hopefully they add a way to customize the optimization process. Thanks for giving it a spin and sharing your thoughts. I'll keep on eye on Altus since I like the idea but you're right to much is removed to be put on a daily driver.
Atlas manager here, there are indeed plans for that in the near future, we're focusing the suggestions we were given in this video to improve
@@radnotred since you guys apparently name your self tech enthusiasts, how come, that you guys by default made Atlas the way it is (aka actually bad, by removing even the most important features, like Trim/Defrag, etc)?
I really wish to know how you guys decided on what to disable and what to keep enabled.
@@radnotred Thank you chiming in. I'm really interested in your project and look forward to where it goes in the future.
@@rFey I still wouldn't disable Trim for a SSD. And since Atlas is supposed to be for weak systems, which might not even have SSD, Defrag is still a valuable feature for these HDDs.
@@rFey it is, what Atlas Team is saying about it tho, mostly (but looks like their website didn't had any real update in ages too). And their Benchmarks on the website, aren't really for any "High End Gaming" either. As I said tho in another comment tho, for what it is, it seems more like some Reddit Guys did some Reddit Research and made AtlasOS as per what Reddit recommends.
I was fully expecting this video to just be you dogging on Atlas for 16 minutes, but you brought up a lot of good points and were very constructive about it, nice video.
Chris is usually pretty fair on this stuff.
We are forgetting what are the operating systems for.
They're for:
1. Managing processes, memory, threads, mutexes / semaphores, etc.
2. Managing files and filesystems.
3. To support network (protocols stack, certificates, etc).
4. Managing devices.
Current Windows is a huge bloatware. My corporate laptop Windows directory is 43 GB! And it was freshly installed less than a year ago. With time it grows even larger!
I'm nostalgic about Windows NT 4.0, which needed a couple of hundreds of megabytes.
Yes, now there're cooler filesystems, different hardware, different network protocols. But it shouldn't consume so much disk space! And we do have examples - there're a lot of modern tiny Linux distrtos, consuming less than 1GB of disk space. And they're on a modern kernels, they're secure.
I do not need Windows Defender (It never catched any virus in my history), I hate meltdown mitigations. I never used restore points (I always disable them). They rarely helped me in case of problems with Windows and it's pretty easy to re-intall Windows and my set of tools.
I'm using Atlas in KVM, it saves a ton of disk space and it's much more responsible.
This is exactly what I have been wanting! I'm going to install this!
how it went?
Im using AtlasOS + deepfreeze in my internet coffe stations, works like charm.
Thanks. After I've seen that LTT video, I wanted to know your opinion. I'm glad that I didn't wait long.
Thanks for this video. I saw LTTs video yesterday and I went to your page looking for a review, lol.
I am no gamer so I wouldn't use this, I have been strictly Linux since last year June. But, I always appreciate your honest and unbiased input.
Thanks again.
Hey Chris, why does removing spectre and meltdown mitigation LOWER performance on more modern CPUs?
Search:
With AMD Zen 4, It's Surprisingly Not Worthwhile Disabling CPU Security Mitigations
And right after i asked brodie Robertson on whether he'd go for atlas or your script, you made a video. Glad to know your opinion on this, i did cringe when i saw the list of removed stuff on the ltt video
Thank you Chris! Your videos are truly helpful.
Lets assume we rely on something like bitdefender or kapersky for security, what are the disadvantages?
I'm copying a comment i left on another atlas video but i really liked your take on it you expanded on some things i was curious about.
In my experience so far the performance gains are almost too hard to ignore. It's made a little gateway folding netbook/tablet with a Celeron an 4gb of ram and 60gb of storage a completely usable computer again. it is actually faster to start and run basic stuff than my gaming laptop.
I rarely used the computer prior to atlas because it was very slow and then ran out of storage during a windows update. Now the pc is very responsive and performing far beyond what i ever expected from the hardware. Between the responsiveness of the system and the battery life and convenience of folding it to tablet mode I've found it to be my go to pc for anything simple and quick.
That all being said i may look into the uac stuff and maybe antivirus but im not logged into anything on it so whatever if it dies i'll wipe it again
Just for fun, I decided to install it on an old 4 core/4 thread CPU / DDR2 'puter and with just it and an SSD instead of a spinner, it is VERY snappy! It feels just as fast or faster than my I9 9900K rig, on which I have as stripped down as possible version of Winders' 11. I have more playing with it to go to finish checking it out, but so far, other than the security concerns, it's great.
11:28 I 100% disagree. Taking what they've done and completely deleting it is exactly what Atlas should do. It's up to the user to implement their own security features and software, and enable/disable them when needed. Atlas is the blank paper and you've got the pen. That's the whole point.
Whether it's being mismarketed is an entirely different thing.
Hi! I've been using Atlas for a year, and I had 0 problems. I ran into no virus, nothing malfunctioned, and the installation was a piece of cake. I was able to run all games with no problems and a huge FPS boost, and I could even run some games in higher settings with the same FPS I had in normal windows using low settings. I don't recommend it to people who are bad with tech and follow instructions, though.
Bluetooth doesn't work
@@PlasmaSnake369 All my things are wired, so I have no problem with that.
@@robineftw That's something that should work with a Windows 10 install
@@PlasmaSnake369 Not an inconvenience for me. I don't use bluetooth, and if I do, it's only going to be me connecting airpods to my phone.
@@robineftw I like to hook my computer up to my TV and play games with the wireless controller sometimes. My point was about Atlas not about you personally.
Thanks for the video Chris. I was interested to know about the security of this.
Hello, I turn off Windows, only Windows turns off, but the case does not turn off, please help me, thank you.
Hi! What is the best custom ISO of Windows 11 with support for PT-BR to replace ChomeOS on a chromebook with a Celeron N4020 1.10GHz, 32GB of ROM and 4GB of RAM?
I was waiting for this video after the LTT one. :) thank you Chris!
Dont support LTT. That is one toxic bunch of dicks. Look into it before you think LTT is a normal company.
What I want to know is, if this would be perfect to be used on a standalone pc, to be mainly used for gaming? The lan networking concerns me for security reasons. I wouldn't want to put my whole network at risk for sakes of enjoying optimal gaming....
Hi Titus, great video! Would you mind looking at new MSMG Toolkit 13.3 for creating custom Windows 10 ISO? I have watched your previous videos but with newer version seems lot of options have been added.
Exited to hear about this on the wan show! Hopefully...
Chris, if you have an Atlas box and only used something like Steam for games and nothing much else, are there any security concerns? You’re not checking mail or surfing - where is the risk?
Tried to buy your Rasberry Pi OS today & thought you should know the discount code no longer works- after logging in & filling out my Credit card info when I put in the code (ALL CAPS as per your vid TITUS50) It tells me that it's an invalid discount. I detest bait & switch tactics so I won't be buying it unless you fix the issue before the aforementioned May 2nd deadline.
This might be worth a try for an offline Audio Workstation PC to help decrease DPC latency. Latency spikes suck!
I immediately thought of you and your debloat script when i watched that LTT video. The longer linus went on the more i thought exactly what you said in this video. I don't think Linus cautioned people enough of how dangerous AtlasOS can be.
Hey I just saw Linus's new video and see that you're going to ltx! That's awesome!
Thanks for this video. I was looking at Win 10 Enterprise LTSC before AtlasOS crossed my path.
I'm also now aware of debloat options but know next to nothing about them, so I'll be doing research on what's out there.
Sadly I'll need to upgrade my OS next year so crunch time is getting close.
When it comes to custom Windows isos I would just use one of the ones from Windows X lite because they have option in the installer to have Windows defender or not and I bet all the security features are there and even Windows updates work you just have to resume them. The only negative thing about the isos from Windows x lite is page file/virtual memory is disabled but enabling it is easy to do by clicking on their custom enabler to enable virtual memory.
Chris, you said you get red flags from downloading an ISO, but you're all cool with tools that inject code into the ISO you're about to install. I mean I do understand what you're saying on the red flag for some modded OS ISO. Make your statement(s) make sense in their comparative please. I know I think too much, that's why I started learning COBOL in 1976 on a Burroughs. I enjoy your channel, thank you. Had to throw you and old school smile of course.
Tiny 11 actually works amazingly well. Been using it for 3 months on a laptop from 2012 and its worked flawlessly.
I run this on my gaming PC although I literally only use it for gaming. So I've installed geforce experience, logitech ghub, steam, and a handful of other game launchers. And that's all I plan to ever install. For me, it's a great experience.
After your video on Tiny11 I was waiting for this one. Glad to hear there are good parts about it. If I was to install it, it would be for an older gaming only PC or my old Surface Pro 2, but I won't bother until they stop removing the security focused applications like Defender. As always Chris, love your content. I've been in the computer industry for around 25 years, but you're never too professional to keep learning new things and I always learn something new from you.
I thought of you when I watched that LTT video. I know it's not "secure" if it stripes out windows defender, but do you think that Atlas itself could come with malware? I thought maybe with the playbook it could be verified, but then I read on their website that they give you an iso. I'm a bit confused by the two distribution strategies
@@FelixVyra Yes, but sometimes these windows alternatives are distributed like that. Chris has a video saying never to trust these isos.
@@MarcelRobitaille That is very true. Never download an ISO that isn't from microsoft. But this is exactly the reason why Atlas is "safe".
Or at least it's safe to install unlike custom ISOs. Probably not very safe to use unless you know what you are doing.
When installing Atlas on my Windows, will everything on my local drive C: be deleted? All my personal files and games and all that?
Chris how come you don't add the Harden Tools to your iex package? (debloat)
Hi, I was trying some things and noticed that the current version of AtlasOS comes with Windows Defender enabled, does that improve security a bit?
yes
Very informative. I'll keep it off my main system, but it could be super neat for fiddling with old systems.
Love the vids Chris! still don't understand why I need Trim feature on SSDs. Any help there? cheers
Using the TRIM command reduces the amount of data an SSD needs to move during the garbage collection process and reduces the amount of erase cycles, enabling the drive to last longer. By avoiding unnecessary copying of invalid data, the write performance of the drive speeds up.
@@ChrisTitusTech Thank you friend! see you at LTX2023!
This is going to be a long question. I have a Dell XPS 15 9500 Core i5. I used to have windows 11 that used Chris's debloating tool. Worked with no issues. But recently something happend (nothing related to the tool) and I had to resort to reinstalling windows 11, but this time the debloater tool is not removing the Edge completly. It's functionality is gone, but its still there.
I have been wondering with there custom window ISO, and been seeing Atlas os and Revi os being mentioned alot. Excluding using the tool again on a fresh install of windows 11. Which custom ISO would you recommned for a daily driver use, mostly for python programming, web browsing and docs and stuff.
Hey man this is pure GOLD imagine how many vm's running bots u can do with all this crap stiped out like windows updates uac defender this is pure gold, ty for showcasing it.
Something I'm thinking aswell, gotta put the ryzen 9 to use. What kind of bots are you into?
I only need Windows to have Daylight in my Apartment.
No seriously: I only need Windows to update my Alpha Cameras and Xperia Phones. If I don't run Mails and a Browser it should be fine with Atlas?
I am a fan of having more resources for my VMs to do what I intend them for.
Some months ago,
I tried atlas for my dual boot-gaming machines.
And I didn’t get the Xbox controller to work.
Does it get better ? 😅
I always I'm searching in the net for that "slim", "tiny", "ultra", "lite", Windoze stripped, cannibalized, unsecure and light Windows 1x... and I have to say, AtlasOS break the magic barrier not only achieving a less of 50 process Windows, also, is functional, no gimmicks, no tricks, and it takes to a new standard, a very thin and powerful Windows, that can be used in the real world... well, in our daily life, and it feels always snappier, fast and beautiful to use. I'm amazed.
If i install the non-iso version on my windows 10 will it still keep my antivirus and my games on my c drive installed, drivers etc? Super curious using an i7 Alienware Alpha R1
Hi Chris Titus Tech. I have very important questions.(For me is important your answers.)
1. When is new CTT Windows toolbox release?
2. Is it offline?
3. Is it will have Windows Update and Windows Defender delet or shut down permanently options?
4. It will support Windows 10 : a. iot enterprise ltsc 2021 ?
b. enterprise ltsc 2021 ?
c. pro 2004 and 2009 ?
Thank you very much for your time and response.Have a good day.
Nice vid Chris. here is an idea ...how about create a video about PC Recovery tools? I was thinking about using Hirens but then came across MediCat? which would be the best option to go with?
Hey Chris, Canonical have said that they will stop supporting Flatpak in favour of Snap. What are your thoughts?
How do you install this into a virtual machine (VMWare, in my case)? I'm looking at the installation instructions on their website, and it's not exactly leaping out at me. BTW I consider these security considerations to be a red herring, as MS has made a total bloated farce of Windows, but I need to run W10 in a virtual machine still in order to get some work done, and I need every last CPU cycle I can get. I don't click on phishing emails (I wouldn't even use email in this VM) and I have snapshots to roll back to.
I enjoy your Videos Chris, Atlas sounds exactly like what I want lol. Been doing this for 40 years so I'm no noob here. And frankly, I don't want any of Window's so-called security. I've been running 7 bare metal for a number of years now and I see no reason to re-add any now. But I get where you're coming from for those who don't have a clue what they are doing it's risky. I stopped all Windows updates and neutered Defender when they started putting Windows 10 updates in critical updates. That really pissed me off! But now I'm at the point where most major browsers have stopped updating and I guess I'm forced to move on kicking and screaming :) This should be an interesting experiment.
Chris why did you not say that they removed defender but that you can install any antivirus yourself if you want to have one, most people who need to have an antivirus install third party ones themsleves...
feels a bit disingenuous to highlight so much on security when it can be handled by third party software, the point of this was to remove windows bloatware and make it a snappy windows experience and they did achieve that by removing most of windows background stuff which includes the windows security.
Who will actually do that? Someone who is going through the process of installing Atlas probably won't say "this is probably insecure"
But if I never got a virus / a warning that I have virus on my PC / anything like that. Why do I need defender? I used official windows for many years but I just don't see a benefit to having that run in the background since I never downloaded anything with a virus.
Altlas OS seems interesting, but I wouldn't use it as a daily driver. Most likely in a VM
I read on the Atlas website it still needs a windows licence to activate the windows part of it. Is it possible to run it without and un-activated in a VM. Its not like I'd be using windows all the time.
I agree with almost everything here other than the VBS setting. It DOES defs take performance off the table with some games when enabled.
Are you planning to look at the new *improved* 0.3.x versions that have released towards the end of last year?
I am. It looks much better now.
@@ChrisTitusTech I'm excited to know your opinion about it because know Atlas OS has Win Defender
glad to see you put something out on it, the ltt video was more or less a puff piece and felt really irresponsible for them to release it in that form
I am happy with the PowerShell script that you made...
Can you make a video how to dual boot Windows 11 with secure boot enable and a Linux distro?
I've been trying to do it, but it's been very difficult or i'm doing something wrong
Duuudee, are you reading my mind?, I was just looking for a review for this OS, and I know your style.
i installed this on my old laptop and had no gain over a normal windows version.
Thank you for your in depth review!
6:30 password protection is probably because windows defender or antivirus would flag it as malware, although i could be wrong
Can you suggest an os with more security to run on an extremely slow low powered laptop ?Basically old celeron with 4 gigs of ram.
Pretty sure WinAero Tweaker can do most if not all of this, but does it piecemeal and explains everything rather nicely.
My 22H2 Atlas sometimes crashes completely... Also some programs just don't start. No error, nothing. I like that is fast, but it needs refining.
Hey new to the channel here, I heard atlas adds reg keys that are perminate on the os (even after reset) that can make anyone that works with atlas tap into peoples computers?
i've tried 3 times to provide the link to the trusted exe, but youtube says it is spam, you are downloading from the wrong place
This should prob be updated, this is a very old version. I've played around with a lot of operating systems and tweaks , this OS was so easy to install and gave me a solid improvement on global performance. I'm a bit of a gamer and it gave me very solid increases in FPS. It gives you security options when installing. Their website has also been updated. I've never left a review before for a OS but I did it on trustpilot just for this OS.
Would you say this is good for maybe in a virtual machine. Like maybe your proxmox gaming servers where you can snapshot the system before install.
I just installed atlus on an old machine a couple weeks ago and all windows update, and defender as well as malware are included you have an option to install it during installation
What do you mean malware
The malware protection you have the option to install it too
Chris, why are you now saying we should have windows security features, when a couple months ago you explained how useless those security features are, and even showed how to make a custom windows ISO that doesn't have any security stuff in it?
I tried it out on a already installed version of Windows, did the job BUT! It locked me out as I used fingerprint login and lost access to network drives.
Just to add this was a spare laptop that I use for test like these
I'm glad this exists. Not everyone wants security features forced down their throats. If you want to make security nerds happy you'd end up with stock Windows anyways...
Exactly.
Security features basically become bloat at some point, especially on older/weaker hardware.
Of course Chris probably sees no performance loss from "VBS" for example, but he's probably using a pretty recent and high end machine.... not some lower end 10 year old machine that may have issues.
Some feature's like UAC and Bluetooth you can enable the strip down includes Atlas folder for enable/disable feature's
Removing Internet Explorer / Edge fully is impossible without breaking many apps.
There are so many apps that depend on WinForms BrowserView (Internet Explorer) or WebView2 (Edge).
Still running Windows 7 in 2023. Virus free. Issue free. For the last 10 years.
The first thing I do is disable Windows Defender, Superfetch, Windows Aero, Windows Search Indexer, WIndows Update.
So how could I and can I run virus free for that long, with zero worries. Simple. I don't download and try random crrp from anywhere and everywhere. I did all that back in the 90's. Now I know exactly what I need and use, and who the publisher it is it comes from. If you never download install software from a sketchy third party site, from pirate bay (cracked and loaded with viruses), etc... if you never install anything with a virus... you never get a virus. It's... just... that... simple. You don't need to nor do you want to run Antivirus software on your PC all the time. That's like running snow tires on your car year around in the Southern United States.
And if I were, for whatever reason to get a virus, this is what I do. You can't "clean" a PC any more Viruses are now payloaded to install a plethora of multiple attacks. There is no cleaning. There is only reformatting. Get your files off the drive, then reformat and reinstall a fresh copy of windows. I haven't had to do that though in 10 years.
Back in the 1990's when I was trying to get my hands on expensive cracked software off of Piratebay or Limewire... OMG... yeah. Don't. There is no honor amoung crackers like in the 90's. Hard for me to say, but sad but true... you're better off paying for a lite version of the software you want just to be virus free.
A lot of the things you are fraking out in this video... don't matter.
Microsoft telemetry harvesting though.. yeah that does matter.
If I can't get Windows 7 with USB drivers rolled into it to run on my new Ryzen 7950x, I'm going to at least be evaluating Atlas (uggh, ha8t3 10/11) as a last ditch effort before installing Arch and trying to botch my way around running windows apps under linux, which has never ever worked for me. Mainly, I need Sony Vegas.
So what you're telling me is it's absolutely perfect for a retro gaming system which never goes online 👍
Am I sounds correct? If it's lite weight custom windows, can we strip down unwanted things further and make it as container for linux, since it's open source can't it good way to run windows binary in linux, for example consider vanilla os it's immutable os and have container for every possible linux, I am open to discuss, share your thoughts, I hope someone will note this comment...