Why Kang the Conqueror Absolutely HATES Dr. Doom Explained - Avengers: Doomsday

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  • @jessemillan1385
    @jessemillan1385 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    I think Kang the Conqueror hates Dr. Doom because Doom is ruthless and calculating which gives him the element of surprise against the council of kangs. If the Fantastic Four and Dr. Doom reside on Earth 4, then Dr. Doom will will confront Kang and hunt down the council of kangs.

  • @mr.t-rex3113
    @mr.t-rex3113 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    They did kang dirty

  • @jaynguyen1573
    @jaynguyen1573 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Short answer:
    Because RDJ replaced JM

  • @jaymarah94
    @jaymarah94 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    "Why Kang the conqueror hates Dr Doom" Because he's stealing his saga.

    • @Highevolutionary-c2h
      @Highevolutionary-c2h 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Right 🤣💯👍

    • @Byronic19134
      @Byronic19134 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Well to be fair Kang stole old Doom tech in the future to become Kang. In the new continuity at least he does.

    • @heem8232
      @heem8232 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Byronic19134or iron man or Reed

  • @jasonweeks6318
    @jasonweeks6318 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    according to the scoops the FF are from the 616 in the past but got lost in the multiverse and wound up on that earth where Doom is from..

    • @Byronic19134
      @Byronic19134 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah that sounds cool but I am having trouble making sense of how the F4 would be from 616 unless it’s like I predicted wrongly they were working on SABER. Because I thought we were going to get a F4 cameo at end of Secret Invasion and find out they got their powers from a lab accident with all the samples that Fury collected which would have made sense.

    • @jasonweeks6318
      @jasonweeks6318 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Byronic19134 it didnt go into alot of details

  • @docrobo360
    @docrobo360 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Doom and Kang are distantly related and are usually frenemies in the comics. It'll be interesting to see if they play off that dynamic. Kang and Doom could team up only to have Doom betray Kang and take his tech to command travel through the multiverse.

  • @rezzylee2385
    @rezzylee2385 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Because he was fired and replaced with Downey?

  • @frederickallgood7592
    @frederickallgood7592 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    May I, May 7

  • @phantomhunter9146
    @phantomhunter9146 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Dr doom is the one villain you don't want to piss off lol he is as smart as iron man

  • @imdam-ned
    @imdam-ned 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I wonder since Iron man created the times machine, that RDJ Dr.Doom is gonna do the same thing.
    Different Universe, different situations but same threat.

  • @ultradeepbass6555
    @ultradeepbass6555 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This sounds great, kang can get his proper time to shine and doom as well

  • @stalebread9825
    @stalebread9825 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    He’s a Richard’s that’s enough for doom to take him out lmao

    • @ShowMeDemBoobies
      @ShowMeDemBoobies 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      But nobody knows if Kang descended from Reed or Doom. He could be a descendant of Doom.

  • @PlayerUnknownWarzoneMobile
    @PlayerUnknownWarzoneMobile 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    In endgame loki escape with tesseract = branched timeline
    But,
    In MOM america charvis came to the 616(MCU)
    is this does not affected to branched 616 timeline?

  • @BibleAlivePresentations
    @BibleAlivePresentations 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Doctor Doom is egotistical, but not a sociopath who cares about very little. Doom is mad, yes, but precisely because he cares... too much and about WAY too much!

  • @brianwelborn5220
    @brianwelborn5220 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Will in the original marvel universe earth-616 base off the comics where all heroes and villains are all together dr doom and kang become friends but also become enemies because of power

  • @jamelherring5359
    @jamelherring5359 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I expected more on the storyline between the two entities...

  • @Homo_eWRECKtus
    @Homo_eWRECKtus 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dr Doom knows about Kang from watching Rick and Morty.

  • @Byronic19134
    @Byronic19134 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Maybe they adapt the story between Namor and Doom in Time Runs Out where Namor finally goes to Doom for help but in the movie it’s Reed who finally goes to Doom for help only Doom is nobody 2nd option, and that’s when we discover he has a cellar full of Kangs tied up to bait the Council to come after him. Potentially could involve tricking them into having Galactus destroy them.

  • @BibleAlivePresentations
    @BibleAlivePresentations 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    When you all post videos like this, it shows how you (TH-cam Marvel video commenters and speculators) are playing serious CATCH-UP when it comes to Marvel's premiere supervillain, Doctor Doom. You wasted so much time on the Kangs.
    Victor Von Doom is a polymath sorcerer and inventor that makes the genius of Tony Stark well, unimpressive. Of the many diabolically ingenious devices Doom has crafted, his magnum opus is the Space-Time Platform. A time-machine and multiversal transit device without equal (keep in mind that in Marvel comics and the MCU, time-travel = multiversal transit), Doom began his quest to make the Space-Time Platform even at University. It was an early attempt at this invention that literally blew up in his face. And its purpose? To enter the Netherealm and save the soul of his mother from the demon Mephisto.
    By the time Doom meets the Fantastic Four decades after being at college with Reed Richards and Ben Grimm, he has successfully created the Space-Time Platform. Ten centuries after, a 31st-century descendant of Reed Richards, one Nathaniel Richards, will re-discover Doom's Platform and use it to become Kang. All of the Kangs owe all their time-mastery and universe conquering to Doom's Space-Time Platform. Proof? Not only is this fact WELL-ESTABLISHED in Marvel Comics, you show evidence of the Kangs USING Doom's Space-Time Platform when they gather together, 3:04. Note that the entire Council of Kangs use this device.
    So you have it 180 degrees backward. It isn't the Kangs who are upset with Doom, but Doom who hates Richards and ANY Richards who would dare sully his inventions and claim his glory for themselves! It is Doom who hates the Kangs!
    The Kangs will not attempt to destroy Doom because they owe EVERYTHING to Doom -- he is their ABSOLUTE POINT. Destroy or sanction Doom? That ends the Kangs for good, because CASALLY Doom is the true inventor of time-travel / multiversal transit in Marvel.
    We know what drives Doom. One essential aspect of Doom is that he works to create a perfect world without hunger, disease, strife -- Doomworld, a reality where his will rules all, a paradise with him in control of everyone and everything. Recall Stephen Strange using the Time Stone in AVENGERS INFINITY WAR, seeking outcomes where the superheroes were triumphant over Thanos. The first thing Doom did with his Space-Time Platform was what Strange did with the Time Stone -- only he looked at 100x more realities. ANd in only one did he find a paradise without conflict, sickness, want: the one he ruled in.
    And not only did Doom discover that "perfect" universe, he also discovered the Kangs and their origins. So he blames Reed and his family for the Kangs, and he loathes the Kangs (there are NO good Richards to Doom) because they used his device to make their transtemporal Multiversal mess and prevent Doom's perfect rule.
    This is why Doom probably wants the Ultimate Nullifier in THE FANTASTIC FOUR. And this is probably why, when he does not acquire it (thank you Watcher!), Doom will seek a far more dangerous option: the Scarlet Witch. Using his Space-Time Platform, Doom will prevent the suicide of Wanda. Next Doom will convince Wanda that both her destiny and redemption lie in obliterating all Kangs and the TVA. So that is what happens likely in AVENGERS DOOMSDAY. Incursion! Due to the presence of Monica Rambeau in Earth 10005. As 616-New Avengers battle 10005-X Men, Doom sends Wanda to wipe the Kangs and TVA out of existence, backed up by a multiversal army of adamantium-shelled Ultrons enslaved to the will of Doom. This triggers Loki being pitched off the WorldTree which unravels in endless Incursions. The Multiverse and Eternity itself begin DYING...

    • @JayyChillin
      @JayyChillin 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      This is hands down one of the best Dr Doom storyline theories I’ve come across for the current MCU.

    • @BibleAlivePresentations
      @BibleAlivePresentations 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@JayyChillin thank you, Jayy!!

  • @dustinglasner7080
    @dustinglasner7080 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Since the 3 main Kangs each have their own name, couldn’t they legally use that character with a different actor since Majors’ contract states that only he can play Kang. I’ve never understood why if he was fired, shouldn’t that contract be null and void and anyone that Marvel wants to play Kang could at this point?

    • @ShowMeDemBoobies
      @ShowMeDemBoobies 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They dont want to recast because the character of Kang will make people think about Majors and how he was the character first. Has nothing to do with a void contract that's stated only JM could plat variants, not that they couldn't recast should the need arise.

  • @gimpsor
    @gimpsor 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Reed, his rival,is native to to 616. Doom has been searching for proof that the FF are dimensional refugees and for a way to free his mother from hell. He created the time platform and inadvertently created Kang and his council. Doom sees killing the Kangs as cleaning up his own mess.

    • @Byronic19134
      @Byronic19134 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I’m hoping the F4 were working on SABER with Fury and fell into one of the jump points when the thing happened with Monica, and that’s how they ended up in that universe.
      I’d also love to see them reinterpret the Time Runs Out storyline and have Reed go to Doom for help with incursions and Galactus coming only to find out Doom is nobody 2nd option, at which point it is revealed Doom has a cellar full of Kangs and is using them for bait to get Immortus to come and somehow steals his power and/or tricks Galactus into killing all the Kangs.

  • @daneo617
    @daneo617 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Instead of Doom going after the Kangs why not just take America Chavez's powers, seems much easier. 🤔

    • @fenixriz3n218
      @fenixriz3n218 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Probably cause there is only 1 in all of the multiverse and hasn’t heard of her

  • @virtualrealityfitness283
    @virtualrealityfitness283 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Kang and Doom are related in the comics.

    • @Byronic19134
      @Byronic19134 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Unspecified and inconclusive because Kang is Nathan Richards so originally continuity hinted he was related to Reed in the distant future, but modern continuity is leading more into him being related to Doom.

    • @therestinghornet6906
      @therestinghornet6906 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes and no we know it may be a possibility but the other doesn't dare to execute the other in fear of if they are the others progeny

    • @Bigkool31o
      @Bigkool31o 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No Reed and Kang are

  • @frederickallgood7592
    @frederickallgood7592 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    July 25,2025

  • @Smurfis
    @Smurfis 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Kang prunes everything in hopes it won’t create the conquerer or other intensely powerful variants like Doom which will be a Iron Man variant

  • @vegetathe4th376
    @vegetathe4th376 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Council of Kang aroos

  • @callmethecommentcountess9329
    @callmethecommentcountess9329 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ok

  • @frederickallgood7592
    @frederickallgood7592 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Avengers 5 2026 Avengers 6 2027

  • @dro2k728
    @dro2k728 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It’s rumored that the ff4 are actually from the 616. They got they’re powers when they traveled universes.

    • @Byronic19134
      @Byronic19134 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      If this is true I hope they were working for Fury on SABER space station when it happened.

    • @dro2k728
      @dro2k728 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Byronic19134 great idea

  • @aaronw.2050
    @aaronw.2050 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wait. Are we still caring?

  • @RESAHUTEHUT-SOKHOI73.
    @RESAHUTEHUT-SOKHOI73. 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Kang has allways been the superior one,doom was almost killed in a fight.

    • @elijah6189
      @elijah6189 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Wow you clearly haven't seen it Emperor Doom

    • @RESAHUTEHUT-SOKHOI73.
      @RESAHUTEHUT-SOKHOI73. 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@elijah6189 Do you know All Kang versions are the Creator versions without his unlimited power to experience the realities,The Creator created the Beyonder God as a stronger version of himself and gave him 0.001 power because that will be enough to destroy everything.

  • @Highevolutionary-c2h
    @Highevolutionary-c2h 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Stop talking about Kang the conqueror who has been completely whitewashed from the mcu and your not about to get John majors or some scrub replacement actor to play the part so that he can get killed in the beginning of any film .period end of discussion fanboys ,😤💯👎

  • @summertyme5748
    @summertyme5748 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Kant I mean Kang is dead. Killed over and over again…… Marvel needs to let phase 4 and 5 stay dead and just resume the story wear Endgame left off.

    • @user-fb4vn2mp2v
      @user-fb4vn2mp2v 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Kang from Antman Definitely isn’t Dead. If they kept the script the same Antman and Wasp would have been trapped while he escaped.
      But he still escaped. Just not the way he me ever thought. He got sucked into a multiverse engine that blew up in the negative zone. He prolly came out on the other side of before it even blew up.

    • @Byronic19134
      @Byronic19134 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@user-fb4vn2mp2vNo the story was changed to give cause for the Council of Kangs to destroy 616. Kang prime was sucked into his engine and went into the beyond verse where he had to conquer like Antman did, a billion different versions of him while the Council of Kangs seeing 616 as a threat would have came and destroyed the entire earth leaving only a couple million left alive, at which point Kang prime was going to reappear with Beyonder powers and destroy the Council. That movie would have been fire but no fans had to cry about a lie he was killed by ants.

    • @Byronic19134
      @Byronic19134 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I think you missed the entire point is that Kang can’t ever really be killed because another version of him will just reappear. And we have never saw Immortus, Centurion, or Ramu Tut killed on screen who are the evil trinity of Kangs in the MCU.