@@fabiopaolobarbieri2286 "Greatest" needs to take into account scope of repertoire. I wouldn't describe a conductor as the greatest who didn't conduct opera, for example. It would be more accurate to say that, in the repertoire conducted by Wand, his performances were among the greatest.
@@karldelavigne8134 Since no director conducts everything, and no director conducts everything equally well, this means there is no such thing as a greatest director. Furtwaengler only conducted Italian opera once in his whole life (a pretty good Otello). Toscanini missed most of the modern repertoire, and was also not very good in concertos (just ask Jascha Heifetz). Everyone does different things and does things differently, and everyone has limits to their repertoire.
@@fabiopaolobarbieri2286 I didn't say a conductor has to conduct everything; I was talking about scope of repertoire. You're wrong about Toscanini though: he did conduct music contemporary to him, even as late as the 1950s. He can't be criticised for ending his career in 1954 and missing later music.
Was mich bei Günter Wand immer wieder erstaunt, ist, wie jung und dynamisch das Orchester unter/ mit ihm klang. Gerade im dritten und vierten Satz wird das sehr deutlich. Eine Mischung aus Partiturtreue und dem mehr als verhältnismäßigen Einsatz von Tempo und Dynamik lassen dieses Werk jedes Mal aufs neue frisch und am Puls der Zeit wirken. Wie er selbst einmal sagte: "Das richtige Tempo ist jenes, welches man nicht als unpassend empfindet." Es berührt mich jedes Mal wieder, wenn ich es höre. ❤🎶
Eine sensationelle Aufführung meiner Lieblingssinfonie Beethovens. Wand und das NDR Sinfonieorchester musizieren auf allerhöchstem Niveau. So muss Beethoven klingen!
Absolutely the best. I couldn't stop tears throughout entire performance. Herr Günter Wand made the Symphony 6 a supreme reality how we can relive Beethoven's life in music. Herr Wand was one of the greatest conductor in modern history and his Anton Bruckner's "dem Lieben Gott" performance proves he was beyond just a conductor. He conducts with his entire elderly body and soul.
Heard a couple of minor horn glitches in the 'horn call' passages. I played horn so I know how temperamental that instrument is. Probably went unnoticed by most. I think this is a fantastic horn section and soloists. Just makes it more real.
Sometimes, especially with performances like these, I feel that it is a miracle that anyone should ever have thought of music like this. Ist's möglich, daß ich, Liebchen, dich kose, Vernehme der göttlichen Stimme Schall! Unmöglich scheint immer die Rose, Unbegreiflich die Nachtigall.
Прослушал второй раз. Впечатление только усилилось. И оркестр, и дирижер фактически дополняют друг друга. Даже если не слышать инструментов, а просто смотреть на руки дирижера можно многое понять. Да тут и Бетховен во всей красе. Как прекрасно он вписал кукушку. Ну а Гюнтера Ванда вообще можно считать образцом для дирижеров. В зале сидят счастливчики , которые имели возможность слушать и видеть такое исполнение. Привет из Киева.
Управление оркестром безукоризненное. Дирижер на все 100 %. Мне почему-то его хочется сравнить с украинским дирижером Н.Г . Рахлиным. Чем-то Ванд с ним похож. Оркестр также шикарный. Исполнение Бетховена прекрасное. Лучшие, к сожалению, уходят. Привет из Киева.
Mi sto dedicando a beethoven ne ho proprio.tanto bisogno mi fa molto bene però...Bach è geloso perché lo sto trascurando e....Mi chiude.lo spartito. ....nooooo... Ma è solo un po di vento che guarda caso mi succede solo con beethoven. ....nooooo....!!!
Günter Wand was probably the greatest living conductor when he passed away. He just got better when he grew older.
Possibly, but his repertoire became, essentially, a handful of works by Beethoven, Bruckner, Brahms and Schubert.
@@karldelavigne8134 And your point is?
@@fabiopaolobarbieri2286 "Greatest" needs to take into account scope of repertoire. I wouldn't describe a conductor as the greatest who didn't conduct opera, for example. It would be more accurate to say that, in the repertoire conducted by Wand, his performances were among the greatest.
@@karldelavigne8134 Since no director conducts everything, and no director conducts everything equally well, this means there is no such thing as a greatest director. Furtwaengler only conducted Italian opera once in his whole life (a pretty good Otello). Toscanini missed most of the modern repertoire, and was also not very good in concertos (just ask Jascha Heifetz). Everyone does different things and does things differently, and everyone has limits to their repertoire.
@@fabiopaolobarbieri2286 I didn't say a conductor has to conduct everything; I was talking about scope of repertoire. You're wrong about Toscanini though: he did conduct music contemporary to him, even as late as the 1950s. He can't be criticised for ending his career in 1954 and missing later music.
Das ist die Musik, die ich in der Elphie gern höre und ich muss auch das Orchester sehen, wie sie spielen. Klasse
Was mich bei Günter Wand immer wieder erstaunt, ist, wie jung und dynamisch das Orchester unter/ mit ihm klang. Gerade im dritten und vierten Satz wird das sehr deutlich. Eine Mischung aus Partiturtreue und dem mehr als verhältnismäßigen Einsatz von Tempo und Dynamik lassen dieses Werk jedes Mal aufs neue frisch und am Puls der Zeit wirken.
Wie er selbst einmal sagte: "Das richtige Tempo ist jenes, welches man nicht als unpassend empfindet."
Es berührt mich jedes Mal wieder, wenn ich es höre. ❤🎶
Er war (und ist) eine Legende. 😊
Eine sensationelle Aufführung meiner Lieblingssinfonie Beethovens. Wand und das NDR Sinfonieorchester musizieren auf allerhöchstem Niveau. So muss Beethoven klingen!
Vielen herzlichen Dank! Wir freuen uns sehr über diesen Kommentar.
Absolutely the best. I couldn't stop tears throughout entire performance. Herr Günter Wand made the Symphony 6 a supreme reality how we can relive Beethoven's life in music. Herr Wand was one of the greatest conductor in modern history and his Anton Bruckner's "dem Lieben Gott" performance proves he was beyond just a conductor. He conducts with his entire elderly body and soul.
Thank you for your kind words! We are glad you enjoyed it as much as we do!
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Truly a masterpieces performance by such an accomplished orchestra. Loved it so much. Thank you all. Bravo Bravo...
Thank you so much! We are glad, you enjoyed it! :)
Möchte meinen tiefsten überzeugendsten Dank Ausdruck verleihen! Danke schön NDR Archivar! Allen NDR Musikern und Personal wünsche ich gute Gesundheit!
Such a great conductor and musician
Yes, indeed!!
The orchestra plays at a high level. No question it depends on the conductor.
Günter Wand was great indeed!
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Heard a couple of minor horn glitches in the 'horn call' passages. I played horn so I know how temperamental that instrument is. Probably went unnoticed by most. I think this is a fantastic horn section and soloists. Just makes it more real.
Extraordinaire !
Me sumo a los aplausos !! Y muchas gracias.
Sometimes, especially with performances like these, I feel that it is a miracle that anyone should ever have thought of music like this.
Ist's möglich, daß ich, Liebchen, dich kose,
Vernehme der göttlichen Stimme Schall!
Unmöglich scheint immer die Rose,
Unbegreiflich die Nachtigall.
Günter Wand: what a MAESTRO!!!!
Yes!!!
Excelente interpretação!!! A tempestade 32:46 está maravilhosa!!! Esse timpanista dá gosto de ver e rever. Bravo!!!!
Ora ora um compatriota aqui
slightly slower tempos, but beautiful, specially the 2nd movement
Прослушал второй раз. Впечатление только усилилось. И оркестр, и дирижер фактически дополняют друг друга.
Даже если не слышать инструментов, а просто смотреть на руки дирижера можно многое понять. Да тут и Бетховен во всей красе. Как прекрасно он вписал кукушку. Ну а Гюнтера Ванда вообще можно считать образцом для дирижеров. В зале сидят счастливчики , которые имели возможность слушать и видеть такое
исполнение. Привет из Киева.
Beethoven. ...Le sinfonie.....meraviglioso.mi appassiona assai assai è.una.parte.di me dopo bach viene lui.pero.....sssst.....segreto
Quel bonheur!
Thanks immensely.by the way…any videos of Tennstedt? I like him very much too.if you please
Not much, unfortunately! Maybe our colleagues can dig up some more ... This is what we got so far: th-cam.com/video/wXZMbRgbUvk/w-d-xo.html
wow
The horn really messed up at 36:37 and again at 36:43
And he made another mistake at 38:43. 3 mistakes in just 2 minutes. Unacceptable. They need to hire a new horn player
Günther Wand ! Werktreu bis zur letzten Note!
Tijdloze Symphonie💓
Ljuvligt
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今設定している着メロです。美しい演奏ですね。
Thank you very much for your comment.
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Управление оркестром безукоризненное. Дирижер на все 100 %. Мне почему-то его хочется сравнить с украинским дирижером Н.Г . Рахлиным. Чем-то Ванд с ним похож. Оркестр также шикарный. Исполнение Бетховена прекрасное. Лучшие, к сожалению, уходят. Привет из Киева.
Mi sto dedicando a beethoven ne ho proprio.tanto bisogno mi fa molto bene però...Bach è geloso perché lo sto trascurando e....Mi chiude.lo spartito. ....nooooo...
Ma è solo un po di vento che guarda caso mi succede solo con beethoven. ....nooooo....!!!
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