Dr. Steven Hassan talks with Isaac Carmignani: Understanding the Jehovah's Witnesses
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ย. 2024
- The Jehovah's Witnesses have millions of members and are well-known for their door-to-door solicitation and distribution of materials, such as their Watchtower and Awake! magazines. However, most people do not realize the authoritarian BITE Model policies that affect their believers. Former elder Isaac Carmignani, a friend and colleague, shares the critically important facts about the Jehovah's Witnesses. Did you know they have prophesied at least 4 times that Armageddon would occur in a particular year? Or that Bible scholars say their version is wrong? Or that they practice corporal punishment? Prohibit blood transfusions? Shun former members? Or that they have had a huge pedophile problem for many decades? They are very nice, hard-working people, but involvement in this group has caused much suffering and harm worldwide.
Are you a JW, questioning JW, or ex-JW, or even just curious about the organization? Although our course, the Recovery After Mormonism Workshop, with Dr. Steven Hassan and Dr. John Dehlin, is about the Latter-Day Saints, those familiar with the inner workings of the Watchtower will find much of the material - and the patterns of control - hauntingly familiar, and, more importantly, the advice given is applicable and useful to survivors of the Jehovah's Witnesses. Check it out here: courses.freedo...
#drstevenhassan #stevenhassan #cults #mindcontrol #brainwashing #BITEmodel #freedomofmind #watchtower #jehovahwitnesses #exjehovahwitness #exjehovahswitness #religiouscult #religioustrauma
********************************************
Learn more at: freedomofmind....
Subscribe to The Influence Continuum podcast: freedomofmind....
Enroll in our course - Understanding Cults: A Foundational Course for Clinicians
freedomofmind....
Subscribe to the Freedom of Mind newsletter: freedomofmind....
Read or listen to Dr. Hassan's books: freedomofmind....
Am a 82 year old lady left JWS 2020 born in so s lot off years can concur with what you have said . Saw from reading the BIBLE many things did not harmonize. Thank you from Australia.
💜💪🏼Go BEV!!🌷🪷
Jesus christ sent churches including exjws apostate to preach about the Jehovah's witnesses??????????????
@@Des7iny7 Jesus christ sent churches including exjws apostate to preach about the Jehovah's witnesses????????????
I was born in, worked on the compound.
We NEED more voices to expose the manipulation of the cult. Thank you Steve you helped me wake up
This was an accurate interview. It can not describe the trauma a child experiences in this group. I was born in-to this group. I came out as gay to my sister at 26 in 1996. She told me she would never speak to me again. I was shunned by everyone in my family and all my friends shortly after that. I’ve had to mentally bury my parents who are both still alive but shun me.
@@ellegee4683 thank you! I have no family but I am working on creating my own, and from people i choose.
Do know that being gay is not the issue but rather practicing it is. The scriptures are clear on how a true Christian should conduct themselves or not and is our choice. It is God's choice who he gives life to so I suppose it all works out.
Loved this interview! I was a witness for 35 years in a divided home and I’m so glad my husband never left me as he has told me he’s always seen me as a member of a cult. It’s only been 2 months but I find myself in disbelief that I could have believed what I’ve believed all these years, I’m pealing away the layers of how I’ve been indoctrinated. Once I put my disassociation letter in I felt such relief and now feel so glad that I’m now thinking for myself. I was beginning to struggle with my mental and emotional health but since leaving I’m feeling so much happier and glad to wake up in the morning in control of my own life after all these years.
your not alone sister! i was inn for 27 yrs. 0n April 9 /23 was my judicial committee and after they heard my story they where floored! and then i said to them ! I'll make it easy for the 3 of you I DON"T WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS ORGANIZATION ANY MORE, THIS IS NOT THE TRUE RELIGION ! AND WHEN YOU BAPTIZE PEOPLE YOU SHOULD LET THEM KNOW, THAT WHEN YOU GET BAPTIZED AS ONE OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESS YOU CANT ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR TEACHINGS OR THE GOVERNING BODY AND IF YOU DO YOU'LL BE COUNCiLLED AND IF YOU DON'T LISTEN ! YOU'LL BE ON YOUR WAY OUT AND THE MEMBERS INCLUDING FAMILY MEMBERS WILL NEVER TALK TO YOU AGAIN! AND THEN I LEFT!!
Absurd behaviour for a crazy world..fighting fire with fire..
Don't do anything different things stay the same..
Gods instructions might not be popular..but they won't fail !
Rev 11:6 tells Gods representatives to STRIKE THE EARTH WITH PLAGUES REPEATEDLY.
Since 1919 when they recognised themselves as the TWO WITNESSES..this had been part of the governing body assignment
Strange happenings raising doubts fulfill prophecy .
See ezek 38.
Jah said THESE THINGS MUST TAKE PLACE .
Paying thousands of dollars daily in fines too..for refusal to hand over lists of ALLEGED child molesters where there are not TWO WITNESSES.
PAUSE..
IN revelation 11, Gods representatives are given that title..the TWO WITNESSES !!
Is that a coded message to hold on to that issue ?
Hmm.
Controversial..true..
Pause :
The War of the Great Day of God Almighty called Armageddon is ..like any war..fought because of disagreement..controversy..not agreement !!
Could this be part of the strategy involved !
Putin has banned them over a separate issue..SHUNNING.
EZEK 38 Refers to hooks which Jah places in GOGS jaws..this SHUNNING Policy compelled him to ban them !
I never realised he was raised an Orphan !
War coverage had analysts discussing aspects of his life etc..
Was war foretold for him ?
Well..check ezek 38:20-22.
@@unclesalty7778 It's so nice to hear people like you are waking up and leaving this cult. Tell them like it is if you can.
Good luck, so glad you took control away from them and own your mind again.
So glad we finally have experts like Steven hammering down on this cult and making it known to outsiders so they can educate others and completely avoid it. I am beyond relieved I allowed myself to do research outside of JW material 5 years ago. Best decision of my life at 21 years old.
'You allowed yourself' Translation- you were never forbidden to do your own research , but you chose to yourself. The watchtower doesn't forbid anyone from doing their own research.
@@ucanliv4ever
Watch the ultimate Mordecai channel on ex Jehovah's witness Katherine's testimony on the home page
Congratulations on breaking free!
@@ucanliv4ever non e assolutamente vero nella mia congregazione un fratello ha fatto ricerche all'infuori della Watchtower e lo hanno disasociato come materiale apostata ,ma non era cosi ,non era apostata ,in questo modo ingiusto tutta la famiglia e uscita dalla WATCHTOWER e dopo un po sono uscito anche io ,li non ce nessun Dio .e solo una MULTINAZIONALE. Da L'italia.
You're too young to know of the prophecies these fulfill.
Like ezek 38,s land which has none of the normal security measures OTHERS HAVE where GODS people dwell.
Too young to see the bigger picture of the millions of lost lives in wars and suffering injustice
Too young to realise the relevance of the two witnesses AUTHORISED by God to STRIKE THE EARTH WITH PLAGUES AS OFTEN AND WHENEVER THEY WISH as mentioned by John @ rev 11:6...
And to recognise John was referring to Xmas when he said he hated the sect of nicolaus ..
Look how things happen when words are twisted
Sect of nicolaus
Saint Nicolas
Santa Claus
.
Or even clearer..the link to Xmas when he referred to the two witnesses or Gods representatives at rev 11:10,
Stating the OPPOSERS of the two witnesses were seen EXCHANGING GIFTS.
THE TWO WITNESSES were in the temple practicing true worship..not the worship of the Persian God MITHRAS .
Great interview. Former JW here and he is telling the truth. “The people are good people that are trapped. “
Wow, just an amazing interview. Everything that was said is definitely the truth about "The Truth". I was born and raised in this cult. Spent the first 22 years of my life, living a double life. Which eventually led me to a depression, which I was self medicating with drugs an alcohol. Which in turn made matters much worse. I still struggle to find and understand who I really am. Thanks WATCHTOWER.
Keep working at it brother. Watchtower made it next to impossible for us. At least you're free now to explore who you are without judgment.
Jesus christ sent churches including exjws apostate to preach about the Jehovah's witnesses??????????
My Ex-Wife was intellectually intelligent too, she still became a JW, despite me informing her their History as she would not listen to me as they are told not listen to So-called apostates or nonmembers, such as me. She kept her JW linkage from me when we first met on Christmas day party at my Mom's house in 1984 as a friend of my Sister who is an Atheist. My mistake was falling in Love with her as I fell for her personality and about 6 months or so after deep seated relationship she tells me she's a JW and we must be married within 1 to 2 years of our relationship. I myself never became a JW but did study with them, but never buy into it they wanted to control my life and marriage, also their Bible translations. My Grandma also warned me about them. Even had a daughter who is now 33 Years Old and no married shunning her Dad.
Jesus christ sent churches including exjws apostate to preach about the Jehovah's witnesses?????????????
Wow, it’s as if I was speaking and the words came out of your mouth. Extremely similar experience in this cult. Every single thing you mentioned is true. Thank you to both of you for exposing “the Truth”.
Even though I've been out of the JW's for a a few years, I never until yesterday realized mentally that the headquarters is actually a compound. I never ever looked at it that way before. Now I hear that word it makes me even more horrified that I once belonged to this group! As a JW you would just accept that the NWT was a 'more accurate' translation, therefore when going door to door you would not even consider it as misleading people. The pamphlet they used to take around hospitals was 'how can blood save your life?'. I believe that's the one they did the campaigns with.
Jesus christ sent churches including exjws apostate to preach about the Jehovah's witnesses?????????????
Yes it's a compound, but the world is a prison
@@ucanliv4ever The question is, Jesus christ sent churches including exjws apostate to preach about the Jehovah's witnesses????????
@@ucanliv4ever
Watch the ultimate Mordecai channel on ex Jehovah's witness Katherine's testimony on the home page
It would be easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle
As an ex-jw, I felt Isaac's pain when he said his daughter is still in. The cult took my family too. Thankfully, I'm slowly rebuilding and have been out for a little more than a year but I knew I had to flee in 2020. I had no clue at that time it was a cult but I did see the toxicity. I was so afraid of everyone on the outside and displeasing and "turning on" God by leaving. They broke my heart and tried to kill me (literally) and even imo delighted in torturing me. I left with no money, family, possessions or hope and with anxiety, depression, thoughts of taking my own life and a deep sense of loathing since I was convinced I betrayed God. I was later diagnosed with C-PTSD. Still recovering and healing but thankful to be out.
Great interview; they both are so calm, mild mannered, intelligent, and very easy to listen and gravitate to. ❤
Jesus christ sent churches including exjws apostate to preach about the Jehovah's witnesses???????????
Kit Kat,, like just before you go over a waterfall
So many people I have met affected by this cult, their children even after leaving passing along the ‘psychological dna’ of the trauma to their children who weren’t there. I have greater understanding, now, why this is, thanks to this informative conversation.
It's called generational trauma. :-(
@@ZemplinTemplar Yes, damage (and it’s attendant reconfigurations) transmitted from one generation to the next without awareness or full comprehension.
I read Matthew 24 without WatchTower and got a totally different viewpoint. I was amazed at how the publications colored my interpretation.
Isn't that the truth! I still have this happen. So much of what WT says is in the Bible really is not there.
@@isaaccarmignani What's even more amazing is that when I watched a TH-cam video in which a former JW explained what Matthew 24 really said about Jesus's presence or coming, I couldn't see it. I set out to prove her wrong. It was only after I stopped reading Watchtowers for a couple of months that what she said became obvious.
Jesus christ sent churches including exjws apostate to preach about the Jehovah's witnesses?????????????
Thank you Steven and Isaac for giving a great interview.
Wow. This was a great and informative talk. Thank you so much, Steven. And to Issac too for filling in blanks I had.
Your book really helped me finally deprogram. The blood issue idea was tough to escape.
Issac, I hope youvare reunited with your daughter very soon!
Listening got up to the point, where Issac mentions that almost every witness knows or was a victim of CSA in this organization...as a multi-generational witness and long time elder....I started to keep a mental tally of CSA cases (within the organization) that I came to know of personally, some of these were individuals that I later (as adults, in some cases) came to know of, perhaps years after the fact..yet...still personal friends, family and congregation members..and the current number is 68 victims...and these constitutes completely different cases...I do believe that if one was to look at this one a historical graph..it probably peaked out in the 70's thru the 90's..and has been steady going down, because of the media/legal ramifications.
Unfortunately, I strongly feel that while this is good news, it's for the wrong reason. And the damage done to victims has never been addressed. Because the leadership (Bethel) is primarily concerned about their reputation and pocketbooks ...and while they hate the CSA, .. problem, they also have real issues with a vocal victim, they just want the problem to go away, and that at most times means that victims are treated in a less than helpful and healing way.
Jesus christ sent churches including exjws apostate to preach about the Jehovah's witnesses????????????
What has this csa issue got to do with ezekiels prophecy foretelling Gods people dwelling in a land where there are no walls gates or doors ?
None of the normal security measures in place that others have... ?
Then revelation 11 speaks of Gods representatives As the TWO WITNESSES.
Hmm..
Russia is embroiled in a war ..is it because they mistreated Gods people ?
Was covid in response to the isolation Russia imposed on jw,s ?
Ezek 38:20-22.
Rev 19:17&18
It's been a historical fact that in bible times God has used nations to punish those oppressing his people..
Is that what's going on unseen ..
...unperceived by our secularised eyes ?
I was born in, sexually abused, physically abused by a parent for not wanting to conform to their standards, officially became a PIMO in 2015 the night they viewed the talk by Stephen lett on how they do not condone nor are responsible for child abuse that happens within kingdom halls… the pandemic break from going to meetings is what truly woke me up in seeing how brainwashed i was… now im battling major depression because i was denied any higher education except a GED and can barely afford to live
How in the hell I stand through years of meetings as a child is beyond me ,I don't remember my mom really beating me maybe I just shut my mind off .😢 I really don't understand why they didn't have separate meeting for children but then again these people are not normal,how is it normal for a child to sit perfectly still for hours at a time .
Yet they ridicule traditional Sunday school for kids. I never could treat my daughter the way they wanted us to.
Jesus christ sent churches including exjws apostate to preach about the Jehovah's witnesses???????????
1:06:31. Thank you, thank you thank you for dignifying the JWs who are in by saying that they likely have doubts and they know something is wrong...they're just unable to break out of the trap they're in. I was one of those who had doubts since the age of 12 (when I was baptized). But in school I would've appeared totally convinced and steadfast in my faith. I was intelligent, always quiet and behaved, and I was in the top 10 of my class.....but I was just absolutely saturated with years of perpetual grief, anxiety, and isolation.
I was so psychologically burdened by the cognitive dissonance because nobody would admit what I observed about us from the outside perspective. I had lots of good questions that would nearly get me into severe trouble. I wasn't allowed to research the organization on websites "influenced by apostate ideas." Nobody shared my desire to fully get to the truth of many matters....so I stayed in the religion seeing myself as a future reformer. But in the meantime I battled depression, suicidal thoughts, monthly bouts of severe crying, panic attacks, and night terrors....in addition to suffering from the pathology of my family...I endured 2 disfellowshipping periods (5 years) for petty offenses.
But eventually during Covid I left everything behind once I woke up fully. All it took was a little bit of time to myself, just enough time to break the relentless immersion in their propoganda....and the stack of cards came undone... there is hope for everyone in these groups but often the abuse they suffer does further ingrain their propoganda. They come to conflate their own burdens with the "pressure of the world"....and it becomes so hard to think yourself out of it.
Thank you both so much for the work you've both done. You've helped to save my life....and I hope my own family follows me some day.
Wow! Thank you so much for sharing that story. People need to be shown what REALLY goes on in a member's mind as they try to reconcile their authentic selves with the belief system that they have been taught.
Jesus christ sent churches including exjws apostate to preach about the Jehovah's witnesses??????????
Check out exjw Santos Bonacci and Jordan Maxwell both
a lot of JW's are intelligent, high functioning people. Isaac is point in case
Thank you!
Not that bright if they can't see the BS in believing such a transparently laughable religion.
My Ex-Wife was intellectually intelligent too, she still became a JW, despite me informing her their History as she would not listen to me as they are told not listen to So-called apostates or nonmembers, such as me. She kept her JW linkage from me when we first met on Christmas day party at my Mom's house in 1984 as a friend of my Sister who is an Atheist. My mistake was falling in Love with her as I fell for her personality and about 6 months or so after deep seated relationship she tells me she's a JW and we must be married within 1 to 2 years of our relationship. I myself never became a JW but did study with them, but never buy into it they wanted to control my life and marriage, also their Bible translations. My Grandma also warned me about them. Even had a daughter who is now 33 Years Old and no married shunning her Dad.
@Ivan Castillo Thanks for sharing that. This is a story that is often repeated. Marrying a JW can be a real challenge. In many cases, the marriage doesn't hold up. In their minds of course that validates why they must marry "only in the Lord."
@@isaaccarmignani Why would you marry anyone religious?
Excellent interview! Thank you both so much ❤
Jesus christ sent churches including exjws apostate to preach about the Jehovah's witnesses????????????
Thank you for this interview! Once again, truly exceptional! 😌
I thought my marriage was going to end but my wife woke up very quickly.
Woke up to which way between this 2?????Mathew 7:13-14, and Jesus christ sent churches including exjws apostate to preach about the Jehovah's witnesses??????????
@@Nathaly0886 Woke up to which way between this 2?????? Matthew 7:13-14, and Jesus christ sent churches including exjws apostate to preach about the Jehovah's witnesses???????????
Wonderful interview. Just wanted to add that they just lowered the hours for regular pioneering to 50 hours per month. Guess they were getting nervous because they lost so many pioneers. Seems they didn’t want to lose face when the numbers came out, so they made it super easy to keep numbers up.
Wow 50?! We were amazed when they reduced it to 90. Weren't they supposed to INCREASE the pace and tempo of the preaching the "good news" as the world's system gets closer to the end?
Only 11mins in. So far so great. "Combating Cult Mind Control" was imperative to my waking up process from the cult. As a women, I want to say dress code applies much more to women than it does men.
No cleavage. No showing your back. No spaghetti straps (like the school rule the strap must be at least two fingers wide), no colorful hair/"unnatural hair color", skirts/dresses should cover your knees (even when sitting, if not you must cover them with a sweater), no slits, no jewellery that may be considered "extravagant adornment" (based on a scripture), no tight/figure hugging clothes.
Recently (last year?) They had a propaganda video discouraging teen girls from wearing jeans with rips in them (even though the girl in said video was wearing tights underneath).
Women are expected at meetings to wear dresses or skirts. Never pants. I got audible gasps when I showed up in pants to my Nana's funeral.
For all genders, no tattoos, no facial piercings, men (although this is by region) no beards only mustaches. Brothers at meetings are expected to wear a suit dress shirt and tie/bowtie (skinny ties were banned for a little bit).
As far as food, you can eat anything under normal circumstances (no blood so , well done steaks and no blood sausage) but also nothing "sacrificed to idols" for instance the cookies in the break room someone baked for Christmas or birthday cupcakes (as seen in propaganda made for kids). Otherwise you can eat anything.
@@aBlackSh33p you can even be a glutton and nobody brings you to a judicial committee 😝
You are so right about this. The "sisters" end up with many more restrictions and little to no influence on how these rules are made.
1:01:29 I like Steven’s friendly approach to JWs on the trolley to arouse natural curiosity and plant seeds. I read the new version of combatting after reading Franz’s Crisis of Conscience and think that was key in being able to call it a cult thank you both for your work countering these destructive groups.
This was a really wonderful collaboration. Thank you for both for sharing!
I left this cult over 2 years ago, the Australian Royal Commission & Jehovah's Witnesses CSA woke me up, never going back
I left the JWs when I was 15. Haven't looked back.
Yay!
You left to which way between this 2?????Matthew 7:13-14, and Jesus christ sent churches including exjws apostate to preach about the Jehovah's witnesses??????
@@isaaccarmignani Left to which way between this 2???????? Matthew 7:13-14,and Jesus christ sent churches including exjws apostate to preach about the Jehovah's witnesses?????????
32:45. Slight correction, the last person who was no longer on the Governing Body was Leo Greenlees who was dismissed (not disfellowshiped) during the 1990's for allegations of child sexual abuse. In fact, Raymond Franz, due to the secrecy of his separation from the organization, felt compelled to shed light on the startling facts about Greenlees. Raymond feared people would conflate their stories, so he set about getting the record straight.
But it is true that Raymond Franz was the only one to leave by choice due to the reasons pointed out. The man changed watchtower history big time. There was even immediate doctrinal changes in response to the issues surrounding his resignation. (Institution of another avenue of shunning, "disassociation")
Edit: Let's hope that Anthony Morris the III reads the writing on the wall regarding this ideological cult, and wakes up to give the watchtower a rude awakening!
Thank you for correcting that. I was listening to the interview today and I caught that too. I guess I was referring to the announcement made to JWs. I don't recall them mentioning Leo Greenlees to the rank-and-file Jehovah's Witness. I know they did with Ray Franz.
Edward.chitty.cEdward
This was fabulous 💗loved your book freedom of mind it was 1st book I read when waking up. My 3 kids are still in it’s been 3 years PIMO out of 10 years of waking up before internet and wow didn’t that blow them away I’m so pleased I’ve finally made my stand with my kids and compiling a letter with documents and news articles and loving them with my every being as your advise and my son who woke me up and paved the way said just love them and we are slowly paving together they know they have us both on the outside with new information love conquers all I have to remember this and as two of my sons had tattooed is “Remember love” can now have hope with those exposing all cults 👊🏼 thankyou for this I was in 30 years to now Pomo living in a whole new dimension it seems. Be free 2023
Absolutely fantastic interview 👏
Jesus christ sent churches including exjws apostate to preach about the Jehovah's witnesses??????????
Can confirm, I was one of those basement kids for 6 months after I was disfellowshipped (apparently called “removed” now, probably thanks to the Norway trial). Fascinating to learn that my parents used similar methods to other. I ended up going a bit mad after 6 months and ended up just leaving to live in the streets for 2 years. It was preferable to what I was experiencing at home. Of course I see that as being the same as being kicked out, but they’ll tell you I left of my own accord.
Great program, but you got the Two Witness rule completely wrong. The JWs modified the rule with respect to child abuse before 1999. Their policy in this crime does will accept a second accusation/incidence to serve as the ‘second witness’ in order to proceed in their ‘judicial’ procedure.
It should be noted that despite the more aggressive rule, the JWs do not report to law enforcement unless required by Law.
Yes, that is correct. Provided of course that 2 people have forward with credible accusations to the same elder body. Then, unless the accused confesses it's left to the elders as to whether they believe the victims.
I don’t recall if I ever told my therapist I was a JW 17yrs ago...
I know I never could. Therapy helped wake me up though. I respected not only the science being presented to me in CBT but saw that it did not conflict with Scripture. Therefore, it helped me transform my mind and that contributed to leaving "the truth."
@@isaaccarmignani mine was also CBT, for my perfectionism (I was in an ”early” stage of a burn out at 21yo) and helped to think grey iso black/white. In retrospect I see as well that it helped in my process to want to distance myself from the org
@@naomiwillemsen9836 Nice!
Great information, thank you so much!
Great interview! Thanks for sharing.
A Good friend of mine from way back in the 80s, she apparently had to defriend me quite awhile ago, and worse than that she disconnected from her 2 daughters who left (The Truth) I forgot to say, now her husband is an elder and she is totally stuck.. IMO.. On a side note, I sold her a dog. A Mastiff. He cut his paw 🐾 pad.. he was literally🐕 bleeding out, and they would NOT let Huegy have a blood transfusion. . a DOG🐕 !!! 😢 They are f'n nuts. It could have saved him.
What. The. F***
Yep it's true. The watchtower society answered a "questions from readers" question about that....insane isn't it? I guess god made vampire bats and leeches pretty demonic didn't he?
Oh that's crazy but believable. JW'S are fanatic on that blood issue.
Enjoyed the video Steven. You may be aware but I will put it out there that a PIMO under the pseudonym of Geoffrey Wallis called " A voice from inside, notes on Religious Trauma In a Captive Organization". An excellent authoritative work.
Sorry missed the line... Has written a book. He also did a podcast on the Graceful Atheist about this
Jesus christ sent churches including exjws apostate to preach about the Jehovah's witnesses???????????
Thank you for sharing! Enlightening!
My sister and I were physically abused by our father, a Presiding Overseer. He repeatedly beat us so badly that we were kept home from school to hide the atttrocius bruises
Wow, the stories never end. I'm so sorry to hear that.
@@isaaccarmignani thank you, friend.
Nice video very precise I am a ex JW born in have faded the organization is very bloodguilty on the blood issue. They were apart of the United Nations from 1992-2001 ten years so they are apart of the world and also have child sexual abuse going on.. Disgusting I hope that they all go down… thank you
Excellent summation of JW world with the reality that it exists in cult world!!
Jesus christ sent churches including exjws apostate to preach about the Jehovah's witnesses?????????????
Great interview!
Jesus christ sent churches including exjws apostate to preach about the Jehovah's witnesses?????????
Great interview guys
When the gentleman mentions Fred Franz as the 4th president, he is miscoumting. Charles Russel was not the first president but the second. The first president was William Conley. Russell was the first treasurer and then second president.
The Watchtower Corporation got started and flourished from free unregulated religious charlatanism through literature publishing. Its founder J Rutherford was once a door to door encyclopedia salesman , there lies his inherent thoughts about going door to door selling the Watchtower magazine and other literature published by the then Watchtower publishing company.. The year/date of 1914 of Jesus's taking upon his heavenly throne was utilized to make the proclamation that this generation from 1914 onward would be the generation that experienced the great tribulation followed by Armageddon.
This doctrinal proclamation was actually false apostate teachings according to scripture in the bible for no one is to know of the time by Jesus's own words. Yet the WTS made up a bunch of dates going back to 1874 the first year that Jesus's took his heavenly throne and Armageddon was to most likely occur in 1914, this dating was done by the fictitious theology known as Pyramidology via C T Russell. So you can see there is a rooted commercial agenda associated with the WTS and the JWS.. 😳
Its God who ask to abstain fornication blood adulterors.
My sons was babtised at 10 but he wanted to have it since he was 6th only ,now 26 he is faithful paradise on earth MAT CH 5 V 5,its Jessus promised.about blood transfusion,ACT 15 V 28 ,PROHIBIT BLOOD FORNICATION TOO.
Great Job Steven
Very great informative interview! Thank you both.
Jesus christ sent churches including exjws apostate to preach about the Jehovah's witnesses??????????
When you talk of Jehovah witnesses you should precise that its God laws followers ,blood ,fornication .
There is nothing to understand.
Overstand these
Egyptians wrote the bible or helios byblos or codex inscryptus
Israel is ISIS AMUNRA ELOHIM
PARIS is para ISIS
Parallel is para all el
Electron is el
ELOHIM is gods plural and
Psalms is lamps
Jacob saw god and named that place penial as in the penial gland or 3rd eye...DMT poped eye or popeye
Tetragrammaton is Egyptian meaning FOUR LETTERS of aton atum adam electron and the SUN or jehovah is atum in Greek
Krishna is India for christ
Brahma is abraham
So many examples of ones that are leaving or have left the organization. wow.....
Leaving to which way between this 2?????Matthew 7:13-14, and Jesus christ sent churches including exjws apostate to preach about the Jehovah's witnesses?????????
telling people that they can live forever the changes that make that happen are about to happen. most of JW believe they will live forever. Pretty good offer and gig if you can get it.
Don’t forget NECESSARY family business!
the freedom of the world isn't so innocent it seems, we need rules.
Leo Greenlees was removed after Franz in 1984
Hi, Exjw here (pomo). Love your video, hope you don't mind me saying but at the 10:54 point - important to understand this point - you are not quite correct on the point when you say about JWs door knocking and not telling people they are going to "study a JW Bible" with the householder. This is not actually correct. JW door knockers actually encourage people to use their own Bible while having a Bible study. What the problem actually is, is that they don't disclose that they are going to use a JW publication which contains cherry picked Bible scriptures right throughout it to back up their theology, which they say is a "Bible study" but it's actually a JW book study you will get rather than a Bible study using ONLY the Bible. I'm a little bit surprised Isaac didn't correct this point you made because you are quite off base with this point and it's actually a pretty important point for people (innocent householders etc) to be aware of. Isaac would be aware of this but maybe he just didn't catch this fully as you said it. ... Secondly, around the 10 minute mark, Isaac says that Jehovah has been "added" to the old testament. I think he meant that "Jehovah" been added to the New Testament because it has definitely been added to the New Testament but as I understand it, in the Old Testament, Jehovah was replaced in every place where there's normally LORD (translation into English) in upper case, but where it was YHWH in the original Hebrew language. Thus making a huge point for their theology....
My mother joined this JW religious cult 63 years ago because she was so excited to learn that God has a name Jehovah (from Psalms 83:18) after being a Catholic for 36 years, and for the whole 63 years of my life, the religion has done nothing but cause unhappiness, distress, chaos and division within our huge family, down to this very day.... But thank you for the video. I will continue to see it to the end. 😊
Yes, correct on all points. Of course because the NWT has alterations to fit WT doctrine that are not fully disclosed and are not in most cases ever revealed to potential recruits, informed consent is broken and/or non-existent.
Jesus christ sent churches including exjws apostate to preach about the Jehovah's witnesses??????????
Yes they misunderstand the blood issue
Jesus christ sent churches including exjws apostate to preach about the Jehovah's witnesses???????????
1:01:07 Steve performing an "inception". ;-)
57:55 You just prehaps unintentionally suggested that the current public educational model is also abusive.
Wow, how did he have a career w/Federal Gov and still be a Jdub?
Really good and informative video.
Jesus christ sent churches including exjws apostate to preach about the Jehovah's witnesses??????????
Worldly is loaded language. In Islam it would be equal to Haram. Forbidden, illeagal, or impermissible.
Which of the two roads Jesus spoke of ..most sound like a cult..the broad one or the narrow one with a cramped gate ?
Jesus christ sent churches including exjws apostate to preach about the Jehovah's witnesses???????????
Oh the stories I could tell about behavior at meetings … I was in the men’s room (being “mentally regulated” and spanked) more than the women’s room as a kid!
I’m not a JW, but John 3:16 and many other scriptures prove Jesus is the son of God. Not God himself.
Anthony Morris was taken out of GB because of a drink problem. I’m a jw so I know this is true
No you don’t.
Jesus christ sent churches including exjws apostate to preach about the Jehovah's witnesses?????????????
@@96t5wagon Jesus christ sent churches including exjws apostate to preach about the Jehovah's witnesses???????????
Thank you keep looking at JW very bad
SHAME ON YOU FOR THE FAKE INFO.
Jesus christ sent churches including exjws apostate to preach about the Jehovah's witnesses???????????
It’s not actually a Cult! It is a religion of Christianity. Please research your understanding of the meaning of a Cult
It most certainly is a cult. You do the research on that Dr. Hassan has laid it out nice and simple for you with the BITE model
SMH…
Jesus christ sent churches including exjws apostate to preach about the Jehovah's witnesses????????????
@@96t5wagon Jesus christ sent churches including exjws apostate to preach about the Jehovah's witnesses?????????????
Jws don’t beat their kids
Wrong I experienced and saw many other kids getting beat inside Kingdom Halls
A smack for being naughty is part of all kids training. Beating kids is not acceptable. I’m 71 female and I’ve never seen any child beaten in a KH. I think that’s an exaggeration.
@@UKS12345 Look up the study in Japan done with whipping. Over 75% of JWs reported being whipped for meaningless things related to that cult
You deceive .its just like the KING JAMES
Jesus christ sent churches including exjws apostate to preach about the Jehovah's witnesses?????????????
Great interview!