PSA / Warning to ALL ELDERS in Jehovah's Witnesses
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- Being an elder comes with major risks that you may be unaware of. Risks to you and risks to others. ALL ELDERS please watch this before agreeing to continue in this assignment.
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Why I Left Jehovah's Witnesses:
• Why I Left Jehovah's W...
Link to information for Elders on trial in Illinois:
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(JT) ExJW Critical Thinker video on Gerrit Losch:
• Jehovah's Witnesses: G...
Theramin Trees breakdown of the ARC & Jehovah's Witnesses:
Part 1 - • exposing abuse | Jehov...
Part 2 - • exposing abuse | Jehov...
0:00 Intro
2:24 The organization lies to courts & the public
15:53 The problem with CSA and the reporting policies
29:28 The problem with shunning
31:56 The problem with giving counsel as elder
33:08 Conclusion
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I witnessed this firsthand as an outsider. I'm a Christian, who was invited by an at the time friend to their local kingdom hall. A woman who I knew, who was her own mom had to sit in a separate specific place just for shunned congregants. I didn't know she was shunned, so when I said " hey, how are you"? I was told not to speak or acknowledge her at all in front of her and others. This threw me aback. It honestly crushed me. This woman's face said it all. She looked defeated. It distressed me. I knew I would never go back. In my spirit I knew this was wrong. Her own family shunned her. I felt deeply saddened. What my ears heard & eyes saw shocked me to the point that my chest felt tight and my ears burned the entire time I was there. In my opinion I would say this "religion" is a cult. So terribly sad. 😭💔
They used to come to my door all the time . After I started answering the door with my Bible in hand and quoted a few scripts . They quit coming . It appears that they don't care for the Bible .
It distoryed my childhood. Today at 60 feel the repercussions from jw seeking therapy as it's become anger now.. I still need help born into it..
There is no such thing as shunned in the congregation so that’s a falsity.
@@karateebody Are you fucking kidding me?
@@joshuawayneyork i said it so i meant it. Now you can always judge one’s character individually and it may not align with what’s right but as far as an organization they don’t operate that way and furthermore Jehovah will handle those doin wrong accordingly. We should never judge an organization off of a few ppl rather ones focus should be on the teachings and their teachings are in line with what the Bible actually says.
Tino, you were the first ex I ever viewed. You helped Fran and I begin our exit, and we continue to follow you for your outstanding direction. What you are doing is truly lifesaving. We hope to see our four born in children, three of the family are elders, to wake up also. We are both 70 and came into this cult 36 years ago. Our goal is to help others to come out. We are actively raising awareness in our community. Thank you again!
I’m 65 , been it for 50 years. Father was an elder…..it’s hard, but my very best wishes to you! Glad you woke up!
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Joe. That's great that you were to escape the Jehovah's Witness DOOMSDAY CULT. I was a born in JW as well and left after 50 years. I am an activist. I am planning a protest in WASHINGTON DC on October 31st 2023. Why October 31st? Firstly, it was the very day Charles Taze Russell died. And that's the same day I want this CULT to be STOPPED AND SHUT DOWN. So it's symbolic in a way. In addition, it ALLOWS PIMOS TO DISGUISE THEMSELVES TO PROTEST AS WELL AS OTHER ACTIVE JWS WHO DISAGREE WITH THE LEADERSHIP'S HARMFUL AND DANGEROUS RULES AND POLICIES. AND OTHER HIGH CONTROLLED GROUPS CAN ALSO PROTEST AGAINST THE GROUPS THAT THEY WERE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT IS SIMILAR TO WATCHTOWER'S DECEPTION AND CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES. PLEASE CONTINUE IN YOUR POWER TO HELP OTHERS GAIN THEIR FREEDOM. I NOW LIVE MY LIFE IN TOTAL FREEDOM AND HAPPINESS. IT WAS A HARD ROAD, BUT I MADE IT THROUGH.
I’m sorry to hear you fell for these apostate lies, Joe.
Sad, but all foretold.
The organization isn’t perfect, they never claimed to be perfect, the Bible doesn’t say God’s people would be perfect in the end.
It actually teaches the opposite.
John was given a vision that takes place in the Lord’s Day, whether the Lord’s Day is today or in the future is irrelevant, were the 7 figurative congregations inspected by Jesus in the Lord’s Day perfect?
No. They were not.
Expecting the congregations to be perfect today is unbiblical.
When you live in a free society, people can choose who to associate with or not associate with. 🤷♂️
No court will ever rule against this principle.
You are an extremely effective speaker. Keep up the great work. You're helping many to wake up.
YAHbsolutely! 🔥❤️💐
The lawyer was spot on I was disfellshiped. Thierry is no such thing as a judicial hearing at the hand of witnesses. You can do everything but have association with others outside the kingdom hall, and participate in the meetings.
The double edged sword of the organisation teaching you to become a good public speaker is that you can also create phenomenal videos like this when you decide to leave. Well done my man. One of the greats of ex JW’s on TH-cam
Great video man! This is something every elder needs to think seriously about
Think seriously ?......they should have been thinking before this !.....most people would make Jerry Garcia proud ....they are Deadheads !
They are programmed thinking isn't allowed. It's all chapter and verse or paragraph
Excellent work you have done in helping elders to see the whole picture of how legal action can be and has been used against unsuspecting elders in how the governing body will not and cannot shield individuals from what amounts to illegal activity. Yes, it's true ,unfortunately, that many men have blindly trusted the leadership to do what is morally correct. We may ask ourselves ,'why couldn't we see what we had ourselves involved with. ?' That's something we can analyze through the help of individuals who genuinely care. It's time to do what is right. Leaving Watchtwer doesn't t have to mean leaving God. Again, thanks for the great work.
JW is true pedophilic center, you won’t believe how many cases ever occurred in my Kingdom Hall, and the elders here usually will do everything to protect the sex offenders
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You are absolutely correct. They should have been thinking about what they are being required to do. Why does it take them so long!? You don't need to be a weatherman to see which way the wind blows!
Fantastic work, 34:00 ‘when a man learns he has been deceived he will either cease to be deceived or cease to be honest’.
... if he was even honest to begin with in the first place.
Birds of the same feather will flock together.
God sends them a powerful delusion because they do not love and value the truth.
@@jdwagman wrong that couldn’t be further from the truth I’m not even a witness but with an objective mind you can see how their teachings are closest to actuality than other religions. Todays modern “Christian’s” mix n mingle with everyone else to the point you can’t tell the diff
Truly a quotable Quote.
Christendom is filled with millions who are deceived and loving it, there is no obligation to change their behavior as JW's require, they are on the path of least resistance.
@@truthbetold8610 exactly
A picture paints a thousand words! *You could distill the whole Royal Commission into this vignette* : Elder Blowditch's priceless expression when he asks Angus Stewart how he can possibly protect local neighbourhood kids from predators within the congregation who *aren't Jehovah's Witnesses* and Angus calmly replying "by reporting child abusers to the Police....".
It's interesting what finally woke me up. I was ultra-focused on how messed up the elder arrangement is through my experiences and watching my own family members who are elders and a former CO. So much hypocrisy, injustice, narcissism and lack of love. Then at the Watchtower study in April 2022 entitled "Do you Trust in Jehovah's Way of Doing Things" my eyes were opened. Paragraph Nine: "If we are asked to join a new congregation, we may find it difficult to leave friends and family. Do the elders receive divine direction that tells them where to assign each publisher? No." NO??? NO divine direction when elders make decisions that could directly affect a member's spirituality??? They didn't say they gave it prayerful consideration, nope they are only interested in seating capacities. There was my answer. I wanted so bad for the elder arrangement to be fixed and had prayed over and over again to Jehovah to make it right and at that moment it was all clear and it finally made sense........the elders have no divine direction. Right from the Watchtower. It took me over a better half of a century but I finally got it. Thank you for your well done videos. Yours was the very first one I ever watched while waiting for the lightning bolt from the sky to hit me. LOL. My sister and daughter also appreciate your channel. We look forward to seeing more! Thanks again!
It is interesting how some words in the watchtower seem so small and insignificant. In many cases it is the turning point in people's lives. For me the game changer was Sophia and a simple ice cream cone. Weird huh?
We need to protest this CULT. This needs to STOP. The deception is so vile and SATANIC that its literally unbearable for me to see this continue 💔. I am starting a protest in WASHINGTON DC on October 31st 2023: "Lett" Yourself Become Free In 2023. Hope as many people will join. Pass this along.
WOW! That is so interesting, and honestly a relief to know that they are getting that careless with their direction, and also that it is waking at least ONE person up. Thank you for sharing!
@@tammyg8031 I am happy to hear of your proactive actions!
Great you got the right side.
Absolutely great! It’s all about protecting their “brand” at all cost, and they have no clue!
I FOUND the clue is
@@richardarnold4271 The promised Helper within, is the reason we are advised to "get out of her"! Revelation 18 : 4🔥❤️💐
@@theresefournier3269 Absolutely! and a big thank you.ASHA IS💜
As a former witness, I was only in because my parents were. I couldn’t stop using every kind of drug just to kill the voice in my head telling me I’m fake and this person I was pretending to be was the only way I can be close to my family. The second I told my family I was not tryna be a witness my addiction problem went away in a matter of days.
To anyone on the fence, there is a whole life out here that doesn’t have to be steeped in debauchery, there are good honest people who love unconditionally. Don’t waste another minute pretending to be someone your not and feeling bad for it.
Thanks for your honest story and words of wisdom. God bless you.
YAHsome! 🔥❤️💐
Beautiful articulation of what it takes to be a JW: a separate identity that is conditioned and programmed by attending "meetings" . None of us are our authentic selves in there. We are all programmed robots.
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I hope this video wakes many up, I'm sure it will.
Thanks for a logical, intelligent and factually accurate video.
you still asleep!!
@@mrm8850 No, I'm Wide Awake!
@@mrm8850 What?
@@timpgpilot2530 you heard me!!
@@mrm8850 You've lost me on this one.
My Dad was appointed as an Elder until he attended a judicial committee I remember him being upset on judging the individual and he felt it wasn’t his place to do that…his conscience bothered him in the end he step down . He also knew the pressure he was putting upon our family .
There are sinful men in all churches. Did not Jesus chose Judas?
It is not that the actions of these men discredit JW. It is their false theology and beliefs that makes them a false church.
One cannot just go by the Bible alone. After all JW claimed to only go by the Bible. Look to the early Christians to see if your church aligns with their beliefs/ practices
@@DUZCO10 Judas has been unfairly maligned.
God delivered my dad from that satanic cult as of this week. Thank God!!!
THANKYOU I myself was disfellowshipped twice and I never gone back since . I lost my whole family and all the friends I ever knew .It’s been 30 years now and my parents still won’t acknowledge my existence or my kids. I have no words for they’re behaviour.
Damn, someone got an A in ministry school!!! Great talk brother!!!
Well articulated and Spot On!! I sent the Losch deposition to my 'elder' brother some yrs ago who completely ignored it. Thanks for reminding us of the 'machinations' of this organizations.
Thank you for this video! Even after waking up to the fact that many doctrines are false within the organization I still struggled with leaving for a long while. But it was the simple basic fundamental truth from John 13:34-35 that helped me. We have used the term "human imperfection" too many times to describe and sugarcoat horrendous things. Thank you
You are delusional to think JW's teach false doctrines, but that's how Satan works, exchanging Bible truths for the lies of Christendom's religions. Try doing some research, anyone with an ounce of understanding can see how Christendom's doctrines are taken from pagan religions!
At least you accomplished something, getting off that narrow cramped road to life and onto the wide road to destruction but you'll have a lot of company, congratulations!
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Thank you for your bravery! I was also raised as a JW and practiced for over 20 years until I was in my 50’s in 2013 I walked away by doing my own research Thank you again for reaffirming my decision was valid ❤
My friend who is not a jw but he always comment on social media saying that he is ex jw, he raised as jw this and that......then only i came to know most of people commenting here as ex Jw are liers
I cut off all association with them immediately after watching The ARC. Their dishonesty was so despicable I wanted nothing more to do with them!
Do you still believe the watchtower with the governing body is the only channel of jhwh to all people in the world this days ?
@@luckytirtiono8445 dude not even close. What part of cut off all association did you not understand. These guys are a joke! God's people would not act like these guys!
I'm not sure if it was intentional or if you're just used to speaking in such a way from being and elder for so long, but as soon as you started speaking I recognized the tone and speech-pattern immediately. Grew up JW, finally left a few years ago. Watching videos like this is therapeutic. Thank you for speaking on this.
"Disfellowshipped individuals can sit wherever they want and their families can continue their normal interactions"? Wow! It never ceases to amaze me how deeply the deceit goes!! I was never baptized, but I have had them refuse to even look at me or talk to me.
I'm sure there is a lot more to it that you left out, no one is avoided without a good reason, what were you involved in that was unscriptural?
@@truthbetold8610 your gaslighting doesn't work here.
@@truthbetold8610 you are a wretched twisted mentally ill soul. Go back to your cult.
@@deniseheupel8814 Well said D. Their subconscious is screaming to be free! 😄 why else would they be on this page hmm 🤔 😜
In response to the original comment 😮 right? You took the words right out of my mind…
So correct about disfellowshipping, my brother who is an elder tried to tell my daughter that his shunning me was to convince me to return to JW’s. My daughter responded. so it’s been 32 years, how is that working for you? Btw- I’ve never been disfellowshipped. That same year our oldest brother who is disfellowshipped was diagnosed with stage 3 cancer, this JW brother didn’t even reach out to him.
The love is conditional. Great video, thanks for your efforts Matt.
“how is that working for you?”
/nods/ Well done.
Support to you Joy.
Excellent answer! Best of luck to you.
There is no shunning in that religion that’s not true
@@karateebody
Sure there is. When you refuse to "obey" they will disassociate you and then tell everyone in your Community to Shun you. It's all about CONTROL. They must have CONTROL over their members and you must OBEY them in everything!
@@Peekaboo-Kitty lol there is no obey rule what are you talking about and they don’t shun. See ppl like you like to twist things that fit ur narrative and it shows thru ur statement but go ahead believe what you want I’m sure you’ll change ur tune soon enough
I gave you two minutes before I skipped....and stayed to the end. That was excellent ! I'm so glad I was never appointed as an elder although many of my friends and relatives are. The bOrg have raised cultish behaviour to an art form and remain the Gold Standard. Of course my wife and I have been shunned totally for over 22 years now. Family have died without seeing their children and grandchildren and, quite apart from those who are shunned, the long term psychological damage forced upon congregation members who are told to shun cannot be underestimated.
There are sinful men in all churches. Did not Jesus chose Judas?
It is not that the actions of these men discredit JW. It is their false theology and beliefs that makes them a false church.
One cannot just go by the Bible alone. After all JW claimed to only go by the Bible. Look to the early Christians to see if your church aligns with their beliefs/ practices
very excellent public service announcement you did. I was a 30 year member pioneering at the end of my JW career...i walked out after they condemned the indigenous people of northern Canada. I had hundreds of bible studies in those unassigned territories. they sent up some elders came back and told the congregation was wasting my time, they are all alcholics ....i had spent thousands of dollars out of pocket working these territories for some 14 years....
Follow Jehovah! Not Man. Its right there in the Bible. Back in the days of Moses, Joshua and Samuel, the Israelites eventually could see that God was with them. We can see nothing of where high members of the JW organization get their information. Study the word, draw close to Jehovah...not man
Excellent video so much information there! So far as the organization look good nothing else matters. Hello Mr elder Don’t be afraid of losing people be afraid of losing yourself!
Here in Australia 🇦🇺 . We had a documentary on Jehovahs Witnesses called, Escaping Jehovahs Witnesses Inside the Dangerous World of a Brutal Religion. It's had 5.8 M views. Justin porter ex jw
Excellent video. Thanks.
You made a good decision. Fear of Elders made me make a suicide attempt at 13 years old, it started by gossiping (shocker) and a baseless accusation and being told two grown men were going to visit me in MY BEDROOM (who does that?). I lived and then had to go through with the meeting in my bedroom with my nightgown on. I mean really who does that? Sickos.
JEEZUZ that's disgusting! Those filthy bastards! You're a survivor! You are strong honey and meant to LIVE!
Who decided the elders could enter your bedroom? Sounds like a parent set that up, that's who should be the sicko.
Sue them.
What was the gossip? I'm curious because I've dealt with ppl who like to make things sound worse than what they were all while omitting what they have done to get that reaction. So Yea, I'm curious.
JW is true pedophilic center, you won’t believe how many cases ever occurred in my Kingdom Hall, and the elders here usually will do everything to protect the sex offenders
Fantastic work. Can't claim "apostate lies" when all the sources are their own.
You still talk like an elder and it's soothing and nostalgic for me. 💛 love and appreciate your work!
I was thinking the same thing - except it kinda weirds me out a bit. He sounds a little too "polished", like he's been practising his Sunday talk too many times.
He doesn’t talk anything like an elder. Elders are judge-mental arrogant and narcissistic company men. Who have no problem lying to protect the interest of the Watchtower and there corrupt self proclaimed governing cult leaders. This man doing this You Tube video is truthful. And backs up everything he says with video proof from Jehovah’s Witnesses own published materials.
That is what I thought too , kind of. He very much sounds familiar in past audio video's.
JW is true pedophilic center, you won’t believe how many cases ever occurred in my Kingdom Hall, and the elders here usually will do everything to protect the sex offenders
@@tianzhang1294 The Feds need to raid and shut down Jehovah’s Wickednesses as soon as possible. The Watchtower should at the very least have there tax exempt status stripped from them. They do no charity of any kind. And are a safe haven for child molesters.
Extremely well documented video! We can only hope that elders will see this information and wake up.
Born and raised in the organization. I witnessed a close friend of mine who had been unfairly disfellowshipped. After being disfellowshipped, his witness brother became very ill and my friend was the only match for a kidney. My friend donated his kidney to his ill witness brother. His witness sister-in-law NEVER even visited him in the hospital, let alone thanked him for saving her husband's life, because my friend was disfellowshipped. Truly sad. This practice most definitely affects families.
My sister and I were born in. We both ran away from home in our late teens to escape. Unfortunately we were unable to run away together- this was 25 yrs ago before everyone had cell phones.
One of my sister's absolute biggest grievances was the blood policy. She and my mom would constantly get in very heated arguments over it. My sister wanted her life to be saved. She wasn't baptized and she would tell my mom she'd emancipate herself so she could get a life saving blood transfusion if she ever needed it. I didn't like it either but it didn't get me to the same level of rage it would my sister. My hot button issue was shunning (my favorite uncle committed suicide while being shunned) That was some foreshadowing. It was as if she somehow knew.
Fast forward to two years ago and she was diagnosed with leukemia. It was caught late and she was in critical condition and absolutely would've died without blood transfusions.
I was my sister's bone marrow/stem cell match and the transplant was successful. Now we're twinsters- not even identical twins share the exact same DNA the way my sister and I do now 🥰.
If we’d stayed the path our mother wanted us to my litte sister would be guaranteed to be dead right now. Instead, in a couple of weeks we're meeting at a beautiful cabin we rented in high in the mountains and we're going to celebrate her successful transplant and her life and our bond as sister's ❤
@@moonbeamstry5321 How amazing your sister survived, wonder if it was not her time yet and why she felt so strongly about the blood transfusions so it prepared both of you for this. Wonder how many JW families would actually be able to ignore and do nothing if their child got leukemia. I have always found the shunning and no blood transfusions policy so cruel and wrong and honestly so unchristlike.
Super informative...hard hitting delivery..love it!
When I was 21, I left my congreation (quietly) and family and tried to live my life as a normal 21 yo would. This was an attempt to escape my Dysfunctional/abusive family and this high demand religion. I may have been 21 but mentally I was soo much younger. All ex witness kids know this phase of complete naivety and getting yourself into very real situations that you have no training on. I found myself completely lost and it felt like if I didn’t go back to the org/my family than I would never find my way in this world. I called and met with the brothers of my own accord. One of the brothers assigned to my committee, had actually never said anything to me.. even though I as bff and out in service with the kids he was very loving and involved with every week. Only difference between me and those other kids is that I had a woman’s curvy body since I was 13 and my dad was not an elder, my mother not a pioneer. I never did anything “bad” until I gave up and left. At the judicial meeting they took detailed notes of every sexual or humiliating experience I had ever had to the point where I wish I could of called Chris Hansen cause it was PREDATORY honestly..they asked me why I acted out this way if I “knew better” and I told them the doubts I felt and how I never felt the love or support from the people I was told I could feel that from in the congregation, and I had wanted to feel something other than pain and loneliness. The same pervy brother who thought I was a jezebel, told me “it sounds really like you really doubt the faithful and discreet slave and have a problem with men” asked me a few more Qs and disfellowshipped me..I told myself it was what I needed to do and I deserved it, that they were right, and I got reinstated in a year (woke fully up a few years after that) I’m still struggling with the ptsd of that trauma. It’s NOT a normal or healthy situation for the human brain especially when they’re already at a low point psychologicaly..It’s so sick how we truly can believe we deserve to be oustrasized from love and belonging because we acted in maybe mistaken but definitely human ways.
Definitely going to share this with my ex best friend who's an elder. Hope he actually watches it. Thanks for all you do!
99 % he will not watch it. To brainwashed!
@@Gtumrths I agree, I doubt he will. But at least I tried
They are getting warning after warning not to listen to anyone out of the Witch tower. If you ask a question, your marked , banned, black listed, kaput.
Apostate material inspired by Satan! Delete Delete!
JW is true pedophilic center, you won’t believe how many cases ever occurred in my Kingdom Hall, and the elders here usually will do everything to protect the sex offenders
A thought provoking video for anyone who still serves as an Elder. Excellent video and logically delivered
Was prophecy being fulfilled ?
That land without walls bars or doors lett's just anyone in..
This is 100% spot on - many thanks
Absolutely amazing video full of accurate information
Thank you Matt for work, time and energy you put into it
This is a superb video. I really admire your calm and reasonable manner. I think any active JW watching this will have no choice but to question the "angry, irrational apostate" trope they've been indoctrinated to believe.
Well done! 👏🏾 👏🏾 👏🏾
Powerful stuff. Thanks for the time and effort you put into this. I hope it reaches the heart of even one PIMI JW...
What is a PIMI or PIMO?
PIMI: physically in mentally in
PIMO: physically in mentally out
@@TheFallingTower this is very helpful to know. Thank you. I just found out i am PIMO
Once again, thank you. Very informative and all the references for back up , that's what 'they' need to see. I left The Cult right after graduating high school before i started college. Our father was removed as an elder in my last years of high school, i believe it was for letting my siblings and i participate in extra curricular activities such as sports and so on . I like to think it was a huge relief for him, although, it didn't stop others from getting guidance and opinions from him, elder or not, he's just a good guy. As for the shunning, it still continues, our time with him never mixes with his fellow JW's but we spend as much time with him as we want without judgement or him trying to re-indoctorate us.
Sadly i know others who have tried suicide as an answer to the guilt and have bounced in and out of "The Cult" . It would take hours of discussion to express my contempt of this 'faith' for what it has done personally and to others that have left that i know.
Thanks again .... i'll continue to mention your channel to others ... much appreciated!
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My wife was disfellowshipped in 1979 at age 16. I was her "worldly" boyfriend that she refused to break it off with. Her elderly parents and entire JW family still shun her. Since the advent of the internet I periodically check for those who have left the organization and are now in ministry geared toward those still inside. I wish every JW elder could see this video. The Falling Tower videos are very educational, and presented in a very loving way. Well done!
Outstanding. I wish my brother would watch this but he is a JW and I “...am as one dead...”. I am disfellowshipped and have been shunned from the late ‘70’s through present and forever.
Lawyer David Gnam was lying so hard his mouth was so dry he could hardly speak!!The faces on the lawyers behind him were hilarious😂 as if to say "Dude you 'bout to perjure yourself and throw a 30 year career down the plughole"😱
Great analysis and information and very relevant for those involved.
I recently worked up and was feeling extremely suicidal. However your Chanel is honestly the best. You explain everything so well thank you
You're loved
@@hebrokeculture7575 in-DEED 🔥❤️
That breaks my heart to hear that man lie in court like that. I gave that organization over a decade of my life thinking it was the truth!
Thank you for your videos, it’s so important for everyone to know the truth about this religion
Incredibly well done! Cannot tell you how much I agree with all of this. In my opinion, the way to effectively impact the organization is to reach out to the Elders/MS/Fathers inside and get them snapped back to reality. This is the hope I have for my channel as well. Christ said be salt and light to the world, and if we'd only allow ourselves to be exposed to the cold wind of criticism, maybe the organization could grow towards something healthier.
I left 15 years ago. This past year because of my kindness listened to me and left. She sent me this. Grateful for your honesty and helping those understand what has happened to them.
Totally botched this comment lol I meant because of the way I handled it, my mother was able to leave. She’s the one who sent these videos to me. Great advice. Thank you for all you do.
@@TheWildHerb Thanks for clarifying. I was going to ask who left.
Excellent Video....Bravo!
Excellent information!
You have made an exceptional video---well documented and thought-provoking. Let us how it helps many out there to take the courageous position of standing up for truth.
Is fulfillment of prophecy important ..more important than what men think of you ?
@@compositioncompilation What's important is what Christ thinks of you.
@@BeroeanPickets
Those acting in harmony with Christ will have his approval.
See rev 19:15.
@@BeroeanPickets
Scripture reveals Christs position in relation to the Father is that of a lesser one where he is a Son..not a twin brother..
So often ..in fact Scripture clearly portrays him always as one in subjection to his Father..for he is not his uncle..aunt..brother or any other..he is the Son of God..not God the Son.
So , as important as Christs view of us may be,
What is MOST important is the view Jehovah ( or Yahweh the Creator of all things.....The first of all things created ..being his Son as Col 1:15 says )
has of us.
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Jesus intercedes.
It Is however Jah who has the final say.. the reward is with Him.
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Brings up an interesting point though..
Is Jah so out of control that Moses had to intercede to prevent Gods exterminating the Jews ..?
What does that reveal about God..with Moses..Or his relationship with Moses ?
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At rev 19:15, a terrifying amount of wrath.. destructive anger is expressed from which point it looks like there's no turning back..
Is this truly referring to the destruction @ Armageddon ?
@@compositioncompilation,
Is The Falling Tower your channel? Are you the speaker on that channel?
Thanks for the video. Great work!
Fantastic video, direct and invaluable points made.
Absolutely perfectly done. I was raised in that horrible place. I’ve been out for over 20 years, but the effects are ongoing. Our mother shunned all five of her children, never meeting some of her grandchildren and all of her great grandchildren. My sister’s mother-in-law is dying right now due to the blood doctrine.
Thank you so much for this.
There are sinful men in all churches. Did not Jesus chose Judas?
It is not that the actions of these men discredit JW. It is their false theology and beliefs that makes them a false church.
One cannot just go by the Bible alone. After all JW claimed to only go by the Bible. Look to the early Christians to see if your church aligns with their beliefs/ practices
@@DUZCO10 You can't find any JW doctrine that can be proven wrong, but you're welcome to try. I have refuted the false teachings of Christendom hundreds of times, that is the real cult.
@@truthbetold8610 tell me all about 607bce.. lol 😆
@@truthbetold8610 ur silence speaks volumes.
Search for the truth. God bless
@@DUZCO10 Oh look, we have another purveyor of The Truth here, folks. Want to swap one cult for another, here's your chance.
I was rushed into this cult in grade 3. That's when my life changed. My mother got it from my much older sister who started a Bible study from one woman who knocked on her door,. From then on my whole family was not the same. It caused great harm and separation to me and my 6 siblings. We are forever separated. All of them except me are still members. They will be brainwashed for as long as they live.
I just wanted to say Thank you for putting together a reasonable, well thought out discussion of the truth about the watchtower bible and tract society and it's leaders. I was an elder for 20 years. It pains me to think of the ridiculous gb rules I enforced on the sheep. I disfellowshipped and disciplined people twice my age. The thought for me was I am special I am appointed by Holy Spirit. When I woke up in 2015 I came to realize I was nothing important just a gb stooge. The guilt former elders feel is overwhelming at times. I often think how could I be part of procedures that have no Biblical precedent. When it is best into your head as a child it is hard to break free! Thanks
Did you talk to the people that you DF ? asking to be forgive ?
@@tdomingues89 I was able to talk to a few. I was unable to locate several. It is just a crappy feeling that I screwed up some people's lives😔
@@ooklathemok7322 When you were a JW, you did what you wanted to do, because it was the truth, but don´t blame yourself two much for it.
With the few people that you contact, were they still JW at the time ? and if so, did they talk to you ?
@@tdomingues89 I was an elder at 27. And I really had a love for the sheep for the first 10-12 years. So it killed me emotionally to kill someone spiritually and especially their family. The few I spoke with were never reinstated. They assured me they always knew I cared for them as sheep. It was just time for them to leave the org. Unfortunately the worst for me was a teenage kid with mental problems still gets me 23 years later.
Someone should put together somewhere (specifically) ex elders can go to for support/therapy etc.
The world needs to know this! Thank you for this information.
This was so honorably and professionally done!!!
Excellent!!
Very well said! Appreciate the video and truly hope it is heard by the elders that are good hearted.
Well done, I spent 30 years in this religion. Hopefully the information in this video will help those with an honest heart.
Probably the most excellent video I have ever listened to. You are an excellent witness to these horrific policies of The Watchtower. Thank you so much because I have experienced the abuse and I still suffer emotionally.
You’re video is very thorough and hopefully will educate many others to the truth of what really goes on within the organization.
Thankyou for bringing these subjects to light and providing a voice for so many people who have been quieted by Jehovah’s Witnesses as children.
I hope those Elders who were on the stand woke up.
This is brilliant. Hugely important information, presented so logically and kindly.
This was your best video yet. Thank you so much.
This is brilliant. Well thought out and delivered.
You did an excellent job on this video. So glad I subbed a few months ago
Thank you for an excellent video, very well put together.
You are such a great speaker. You have made me finally feel I did the right thing in leaving it. Thank you.
Thank you for sharing this very informative information. Greatly appreciated!
If disfellowshipping was to help people it wouldn’t be done by 3 men rushing from work to meet with you for an hour and decide your fate… to cut you off from god your family and friends… they would take the time to meet with you several times and help you straighten up and give you some time to decide what you want to do. But since it’s just a black mailing ‘provision’ and to be able to say we kick all sinners out it’s quick and mechanical. Unless you’re an elder who sinned and waited a few years to confess then you can continue to serve and df other rank & files who confess Jehovah’s organization I guess.
It absolutely blows me away, watching recorded judicial meetings where the person in who is in spiritual trouble asks those critical doctrinal questions to those who are judging them and he/she gets..... "We're not here to answer your questions."
The decision to disfellowship someone was already made before the meeting took place.
The alpha male of the three will bully or guide the others to follow what he wants done .
If you are a man they will let slide one whole lot of sinning, but if you are a woman woe to you! A fellow JW woman was married to a man who was alcoholic, would smear his poop all over, throw it in the room, but he was fine, still in the JW last I heard. She was shunned. Another woman was verbally abused terribly by her husband, he is now an elder. She was shunned. Hideous.
I love how commanding you articulate
, and clearly you lay it all out, and you are so correct!
Well done
I too was raised as a JW from early infancy,
Similar story
MS/elder/pioneer/assembly speaker
Took me till 2023 to finally cut all ties
Feel bad that I misled so many!
Excellent!!
As a former elder & COBE who disassociated due to finding out the truth about “The Truth”, I can unequivocally verify that everything that’s shared here is absolutely true & unbiased.
I had 3 CSA members in the congregation, & 2 were given the same instructions where if they go out preaching, an elder had to accompany them. One was in my service group. The other one, who was the most egregious out of them all was married; he was not given that instruction. He just couldn’t work alone w/ a minor or anyone besides his wife or an elder.
And it’s very true; when calling on matters, u are not allowed to know the other party’s name or qualifications, but they want to thoroughly screen you. I actually knew one of those individuals, being that I was just w/ him a whole week using my $$ to accommodate his visit. Very distinct tone & cadence. Thinking we were good, I said hi to him, & immediately was told, “I’m not sure who that is”, then followed up w/ “I’m sorry u’re mistaken, but that information is privileged.”
Never understood why UNTIL what happened to those poor brothers in IL. I believe one of the ?’s was indeed who did u speak w/, & their reply was we don’t know.
Absolutely puts the nail in the coffin for this being a cult!
This is video is so good…. Thank you for putting it together!
I really appreciate your channel. Insightful and practical.
Clearly, I was never an elder, however your concise discussions have helped in my healing from waking up.
I really appreciate our EXJw community. We've all gone through the loss and trauma of losing everything we thought we knew and yet, instead of becoming a bitter, angry mob, so many are using their time and energy to help others through this process.
Genuine fellow feeling
You are doing a fine work. Thank you
What an excellent dissection.
You are so articulate that I would listen to you speak all day!
Great video. It is clear and intelligently explained. I hope it will benefit many elders and help them see the need to exit. Well done!
Great information here!
You are absolutely correct. They always try to make you feel guilty by telling you there's nothing in the world out there, so you are a lost sheep. I left 50 yrs ago. They never side with the victims.
Thank you for sharing this very important video.
Brilliantly researched and put together video. Thank you. As one of the participants in the ARC, what the majority of the world doesn't know is when those elders left the court that day they were overheard saying they where being persecuted and it was theocratic warfare.
Great work, Tino!! Thank you....
This video is so well done!
Great content, Matt
Very good ! Let's pray and hope that these elders come to see the True Light and take a stand for what is right.
The Light will overpower the darkness that lurks within. Excellent video My Brother-thank you!
Excellent presentation !!
I have you working on Gestures.... I am going to put a "I" for improved...... amazing content!! amazing young man!!! thank you for sharing this info!!!
Thank you!!Need to keep forwarding this truth
Great video, I’m glad you are doing videos again, thank you.
Nor did the lawyer mention that many that are of adult age are booted out of the house. The district assemblies of 2016-2017 made that very clear regarding the necessity of severing family ties with disassociated or disfellowshipped members. This is a very deceitful and corrupt organization..🥀
I saw that from reading rev 16:12-16
There are sinful men in all churches. Did not Jesus chose Judas?
It is not that the actions of these men discredit JW. It is their false theology and beliefs that makes them a false church.
One cannot just go by the Bible alone. After all JW claimed to only go by the Bible. Look to the early Christians to see if your church aligns with their beliefs/ practices
Just as foretold
How did we not realise or expect this ?
Very well presented ♥️
Thanks for these podcasts this is well done continue to help people
This was well, well put together brother. Content like both yours and JT will help bring the already crumbling Watchtower down in a heap for good.......
Coming from a catholic background,, I used to read the jehova's witness literature, awake and watchtower alot as a teenager and I felt I had seen the light. I use to discuss with my catholic friends and family that these guys (JWs) have the truth but what baffles me is how alot of these guys are are leaving this organization and I think social media has enabled me to hear a more balanced view about alot of issues concerning jehova's witness