I'm 190lbs and had to add stiffer springs and work the clickers to soften up the suspension. Sounds backwards but keeping the suspension in the right part of the stroke makes things work for me. I ride my yz450fx on mountain singletrack and deserts of Utah
I agree with everything you said. I went on a 60 mile ride in KY over the weekend. Started out loving the suspension, bike goes very straight and is very controllable. However after about mile 20 I started feeling like it was beating me up. I am 185 without gear, mid level B-rider. My bike flamed out about 6000 times...wasn't even thinking about idle since I've been on a 2T for a long time. It wasn't stalling while in gear, it was stalling when I had the clutch in and blipping the throttle. Turns out it was set to around 1200 which is way lower than the recommended 1900, hopefully that will help. I fueled up at mile 49 with 1.7 gallons, which means I had about a half gallon to spare. I'd feel comfortable going 55 but not much more. I put on a Guts seat with their medium-soft foam, very comfortable, but the cover is very aggressive and uncomfortable after a while. I installed the fan as well and it ran a few times at bottlenecks. The bike was super hooked up with stock tires in mud and slick rocks, I was impressed. I appreciate the insight, I wanted something new and exciting to change up and this bike definitely does not disappoint!
Considering buying this bike. I have a 2018 450fx, hands down best bike I’ve ever owned. 212 hrs on it and still runs like the day I bought it brand new. Really like these bikes. Changed the suspension for my weight and terrain, lowered my rear shock and 1” to help me touch the ground. No complaints. Only issues I’ve had is replacing the water pump seal twice that’s it. I’m going to give my bike to my son and buy a new one!
Longevity is the only unanswered question with the new platform. I'm over 30hrs so far. I'm pretty confident you'll love this bike. In my circle of riding buddies I've had 4 people buy this bike after riding mine.
Hey I have a yz250 . Sorry I about that. I looked on the website and saw Thay do have aluminum ones for the 24s if you scroll down in the description you can select a different part #. I bought mine with 20% off during a sale a few months ago. I would think thay should have a sale this Monday.
I have a 2022 and love it... Can you get me a link for the after market fan ? One for my 2022? Love your vid and I subscribed .. Can't wait for for content from you.
Go fastway for the pegs! Made in Idaho I’ve ran them on my bike for the last 6 years have that 6 year old set on one of my bikes and they’re still kicking through a loooot of abuse (desert racing and Idaho single track)
Enjoyed your video. With respect, to the best of my understanding, suspension springs are based on the rider’s weight only. Not style or type of riding. The rest of the adjustment is all in the valving, oil height etc. to make it act how you want/need for your type of riding. Loved your wheelie shot. 🔥🔥
Correct. Did I misspeak in the video? The stock fork springs were too heavy for my weight and I had both the forks and shock revalved for my riding style down here in FL. Thanks on the wheelie comment!
Thanks for the review, I’ll be pulling the trigger and ordering one this month. Your review gives me some peace of mind. I’ve heard a lot of people having trouble with the electronics. (Perhaps from getting the controls wet?) thanks
Nice! I've heard of this issue but I make it a point to not spray any of my electronics on either bike. I just take a damp towel and wipe down the controls.
Look at some Flow foot pegs. Thay have stainless,aluminum,titanium. I have a set of the stainless on my yz and really like them. Price is fair and fast free shipping.
If you are interested in an even lighter clutch pull with the hydraulic setup you now have. Check out Midwest mountain engineering, they make a sweet lever with an adjusted pivot point which gives you an even lighter pull. Had one one my beta for years and thoroughly enjoyed it.
I've tried the Midwest setup a couple of times on friend's bikes. I do like that setup. I always see it as a hard enduro setup but something to think about. 👍
Cool ! Thanks for making some good videos, I picked up a 24 450fx a month ago and have been loving it so far. Suspension is amazing coming from a 2017 beta 300 rr. Power is much more controllable( there’s more of it for sure but easier to control, if that makes sense) looking forward to seeing more of your videos.
Not so much of a light switch, no matter what I did with the power valance I couldn’t get it to take down, I like to ride low in the rpm range and this bike has a much more manageable torque curve.
Have had mine for about 10hrs also. This is my 3rd 450fx. My issues are the suspension is still stiff even at 220lbs. Which should get better over time. I agree the air box is terrible. Have a shop vac to suck anything out if you happen to drop anything in the intake while cleaning the air filter. Get the tusk air filters over the twin air they are better for this bike. The rubber strap that holds the air filter down is a bad design. If it breaks you are screwed. I made a little bracket that bolts right above the strap that holds it down. So if the strap breaks the bracket will catch it from coming loose. Everything else has been great with it.
Thanks for the feedback. How do you compare it to the last FX model? I switched to the Twin Air power flow kit. I do like that it’s a tighter seal AND the bottom of the filter won’t pop out. I didn’t realize this was an issue until I was playing around with filter fitment.
@@JRideRR the 24 model seems like it pulls harder in the upper rmp range but down low in the rpm feel the same. That's with the stock tune. The seat on the new one is harder but not to bad. To me the new corners alittle better but only after I set the sag and clicked the suspension around a bit. Other than that it's a good bike. I just need a little more time on it. My last one was a 19 model and it took me a little bit to get use to it. But after I did its probably been my favorite bike ever and I have owned about 10 over the last 20 years. I even bought a 22 gasgas ex450 because I couldn't find a new yz450fx at the time and actually liked the yz so much more I sold the gasgas and waited for the 24 yz to come out. I think you will like it just have to give it alittle time for suspension to settle.
Curious why didn’t you get the WR450f. It’s tamed and you can always uncork it and you will have the softer suspension. If your riding trails the WR is awesome.
Coming from the KTM side I just prefer the cross country models over the trail bikes. Most of the time the trail bikes are too soft where I can’t stiffen them up enough. The FX is also used for when I ride Moto.
I have a 24 Wr450, it’s super stiff. I’m 180 pounds and I have all setting near the softest and it’s still very stiff on sharp bumps and the seat is atrocious. I need a softer seat of some kind.
Did you watch my short that shows this mod? Hard to explain but the strap compresses at one end. You drill your hole that size. The other side of the strap is a rubber block that will stop the strap from pulling through your plastic. Let me know if you have any other questions. Short: th-cam.com/users/shortsFd5Irzn9kk0
Hey sir I'm 40yrs i used to race yrs ago and now getting back into it i recently bought a 2022 Husqvarna fc450 Rockstar edition and holy crap way way to much power for me anymore I feel like it wants to rip my arms off... I'm 6' 3" 217lbs would you say the yz450fx is for me? Or should I go a different route? I live in Indiana and going to race xc
Without knowing how you ride and your conditioning it’s hard to make a recommendation but some things to think about. The FX is pretty tame for a 450 when turned down but my 350 is still easier to ride due to the reduced torque. I would even consider a 250 if you’re just getting back into it. If you could swing 2 bikes keep the 450 and add a 250. If you can’t, maybe a 350 would be the best of both worlds. If I could only have 1 bike… it would be a 350. It really is that sweet spot for power. I’m sure you know this already but seat time will help with whatever bike you decide to race.
@JRideRR i go to the gym every morning I run with a 70lb backpack 2 to 3 miles with my 2 sons I try staying in shape the best I can but when I stopped riding bikes I went to trucks and side by sides but now getting back into the bikes I have that fear and uncertainty all over again
Okay, so it sounds like your fitness is on the right track. 👍 If you know anyone with a 350 or 250 I’d see if they’d let you ride it. Are you an aggressive rider or more of a smooth rider?
@JRideRR I'm neither at the moment I'm trying to survive haha I use to be aggressive but at the moment I get arm pump so bad so so fast I want to be smooth and fast so I can start getting on the podium with my kids
This is a popular question and with the tuner app I can make the first 1/4 throttle have a smoother power delivery than the 350, the YZ still has that 450 torque after 1/4 throttle. I can’t detune the TQ and you’ll never be able to change the difference in rotational mass in the engine. These are the two big differences between the 350 & 450 to me so far.
Thanks for the video and review! I’m currently on a YZ250X and ridden 2 strokes all my life but debating between the ktm 350f and one of the Offroad X models and the YZ450FX is near the top of my list. Mostly riding moto with a bit of Offroad. Which would you recommend or like better for mostly moto with some Offroad and single track mixed in?
Ive currently got an '18 husky fx350 and a '14 yz450f heavily considering selling both and buying one of these as whenever I'm on the 350 i miss the 450s power and on the 450 i get sick of kickstarting. But my question is it sounds like the traction control is built into whatever map you're running? I never use it on the husky and when i asked about it at the dealership while looking for a tc off button the idiot salesman told me they didn't have it at all.
Correct. TC is adjustable in whatever map you’re running. Off, TC low or TC high are your options. I wish you could turn it on/off on the bar but you cannot. It also has programmable launch control. You should probably buy one. 😜
Would this be a good bike if i wanted a do it all type of bike.. meaning i can go ride some tight trails one weekend and hit the track the next? I cant afford 2 bikes lol
It’s also a good bike if you ever wanted to make it a supermoto. Sure there’s the WR but I’m switching from a wr450 to one of these so I can do all 3 types of riding. Not too hard to put a legal kit on this bike either.
@@JRideRR never owned a 2 stroke and figured it was time so far I’m loving it just adjusting to having little to no engine braking coming down steep steep hills I carry a lot more speed. Still figuring out that sweet spot in the brakes to not lock them up and knife the front or skid the rear
@@danielgardner5822 Not yet. I’m going to try running the forks 2.5mm in the clamps. Right now I’m at 4mm. Factory Connection recommends 2.5-5mm. I went with 4mm as that’s where they were set from the factory.
I'm 46 years old, 6'1, 255lbs. Haven't ridden in 15 years, but rode most of my youth. I raced some mx back in the day. Considering gncc. Which bike would you recommend
With that much time off the bike I'd initially say 350. Give yourself some time to get back into riding shape. If that 450 is really calling your name... detune it with the app, suspension may work out for your weight and get ready for some scary moments when you whiskey throttle it. It has already bit me a few times. Haha. Go sit on them and see which feels better to you. If you can't find an FX to sit on, just sit on the F and remember the FX has a slightly lower seat height. I believe it's 10mm lower. I can't personally speak to longevity of the YZ since it's so new. 60hrs on the KTM and so far so good.
I'm 190lbs and had to add stiffer springs and work the clickers to soften up the suspension. Sounds backwards but keeping the suspension in the right part of the stroke makes things work for me. I ride my yz450fx on mountain singletrack and deserts of Utah
Nope, makes perfect sense! That is the correct way to do it, and I’m sure it’s a good combo on that firm chassis.
I agree with everything you said. I went on a 60 mile ride in KY over the weekend. Started out loving the suspension, bike goes very straight and is very controllable. However after about mile 20 I started feeling like it was beating me up. I am 185 without gear, mid level B-rider. My bike flamed out about 6000 times...wasn't even thinking about idle since I've been on a 2T for a long time. It wasn't stalling while in gear, it was stalling when I had the clutch in and blipping the throttle. Turns out it was set to around 1200 which is way lower than the recommended 1900, hopefully that will help. I fueled up at mile 49 with 1.7 gallons, which means I had about a half gallon to spare. I'd feel comfortable going 55 but not much more. I put on a Guts seat with their medium-soft foam, very comfortable, but the cover is very aggressive and uncomfortable after a while. I installed the fan as well and it ran a few times at bottlenecks. The bike was super hooked up with stock tires in mud and slick rocks, I was impressed. I appreciate the insight, I wanted something new and exciting to change up and this bike definitely does not disappoint!
Great insight! Glad you’re enjoying the new bike!
Considering buying this bike. I have a 2018 450fx, hands down best bike I’ve ever owned. 212 hrs on it and still runs like the day I bought it brand new. Really like these bikes. Changed the suspension for my weight and terrain, lowered my rear shock and 1” to help me touch the ground. No complaints. Only issues I’ve had is replacing the water pump seal twice that’s it. I’m going to give my bike to my son and buy a new one!
Longevity is the only unanswered question with the new platform. I'm over 30hrs so far. I'm pretty confident you'll love this bike. In my circle of riding buddies I've had 4 people buy this bike after riding mine.
Hey
I have a yz250 . Sorry I about that. I looked on the website and saw Thay do have aluminum ones for the 24s if you scroll down in the description you can select a different part #. I bought mine with 20% off during a sale a few months ago. I would think thay should have a sale this Monday.
I have a 2022 and love it... Can you get me a link for the after market fan ? One for my 2022? Love your vid and I subscribed .. Can't wait for for content from you.
Rocky Mountain should have the same fan for your bike.
www.rockymountainatvmc.com/parts/yamaha-radiator-fan-kit-p
I’ve heard good things about the gytr fan kit for these bikes.
@OleMisss I have one on mine. It works seamlessly.
Go fastway for the pegs! Made in Idaho I’ve ran them on my bike for the last 6 years have that 6 year old set on one of my bikes and they’re still kicking through a loooot of abuse (desert racing and Idaho single track)
Enjoyed your video. With respect, to the best of my understanding, suspension springs are based on the rider’s weight only. Not style or type of riding. The rest of the adjustment is all in the valving, oil height etc. to make it act how you want/need for your type of riding.
Loved your wheelie shot. 🔥🔥
Correct. Did I misspeak in the video? The stock fork springs were too heavy for my weight and I had both the forks and shock revalved for my riding style down here in FL. Thanks on the wheelie comment!
Great Info
Thanks for the review, I’ll be pulling the trigger and ordering one this month. Your review gives me some peace of mind. I’ve heard a lot of people having trouble with the electronics. (Perhaps from getting the controls wet?) thanks
Nice! I've heard of this issue but I make it a point to not spray any of my electronics on either bike. I just take a damp towel and wipe down the controls.
Look at some Flow foot pegs. Thay have stainless,aluminum,titanium. I have a set of the stainless on my yz and really like them. Price is fair and fast free shipping.
I did look at them but they specifically say it doesn’t fit on the 23+ 450. Did they change that?
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If you are interested in an even lighter clutch pull with the hydraulic setup you now have. Check out Midwest mountain engineering, they make a sweet lever with an adjusted pivot point which gives you an even lighter pull. Had one one my beta for years and thoroughly enjoyed it.
I've tried the Midwest setup a couple of times on friend's bikes. I do like that setup. I always see it as a hard enduro setup but something to think about. 👍
Cool ! Thanks for making some good videos, I picked up a 24 450fx a month ago and have been loving it so far. Suspension is amazing coming from a 2017 beta 300 rr. Power is much more controllable( there’s more of it for sure but easier to control, if that makes sense) looking forward to seeing more of your videos.
@@seanmclaughlin3647 Congrats! I'm surprised to hear the power is more controllable. Haven't ridden many Betas. Thanks!
Not so much of a light switch, no matter what I did with the power valance I couldn’t get it to take down, I like to ride low in the rpm range and this bike has a much more manageable torque curve.
Fastway footpegs with the ankle savers on them. They are great. You don’t even notice that the extensions are even there. A bit pricey though.
Don’t they get in the way for ankle mobility?
I have checked them out and yes, they are damn pricey. Looks like a good option. I would like to try them out before buying them.
I wonder the same.
Stew Baylor used them.
I should be at this weekends HS. You can try them out.
Mark
Have had mine for about 10hrs also. This is my 3rd 450fx. My issues are the suspension is still stiff even at 220lbs. Which should get better over time. I agree the air box is terrible. Have a shop vac to suck anything out if you happen to drop anything in the intake while cleaning the air filter. Get the tusk air filters over the twin air they are better for this bike. The rubber strap that holds the air filter down is a bad design. If it breaks you are screwed. I made a little bracket that bolts right above the strap that holds it down. So if the strap breaks the bracket will catch it from coming loose. Everything else has been great with it.
Thanks for the feedback. How do you compare it to the last FX model? I switched to the Twin Air power flow kit. I do like that it’s a tighter seal AND the bottom of the filter won’t pop out. I didn’t realize this was an issue until I was playing around with filter fitment.
@@JRideRR the 24 model seems like it pulls harder in the upper rmp range but down low in the rpm feel the same. That's with the stock tune. The seat on the new one is harder but not to bad. To me the new corners alittle better but only after I set the sag and clicked the suspension around a bit. Other than that it's a good bike. I just need a little more time on it. My last one was a 19 model and it took me a little bit to get use to it. But after I did its probably been my favorite bike ever and I have owned about 10 over the last 20 years. I even bought a 22 gasgas ex450 because I couldn't find a new yz450fx at the time and actually liked the yz so much more I sold the gasgas and waited for the 24 yz to come out. I think you will like it just have to give it alittle time for suspension to settle.
Nice looking bike
Curious why didn’t you get the WR450f. It’s tamed and you can always uncork it and you will have the softer suspension. If your riding trails the WR is awesome.
Coming from the KTM side I just prefer the cross country models over the trail bikes. Most of the time the trail bikes are too soft where I can’t stiffen them up enough. The FX is also used for when I ride Moto.
I have a 24 Wr450, it’s super stiff. I’m 180 pounds and I have all setting near the softest and it’s still very stiff on sharp bumps and the seat is atrocious. I need a softer seat of some kind.
How did you go about installing that kickstand strap I just ordered the part and picked up one of these bikes
Did you watch my short that shows this mod? Hard to explain but the strap compresses at one end. You drill your hole that size. The other side of the strap is a rubber block that will stop the strap from pulling through your plastic. Let me know if you have any other questions. Short: th-cam.com/users/shortsFd5Irzn9kk0
@JRideRR ill check it out thanks
Hey sir I'm 40yrs i used to race yrs ago and now getting back into it i recently bought a 2022 Husqvarna fc450 Rockstar edition and holy crap way way to much power for me anymore I feel like it wants to rip my arms off... I'm 6' 3" 217lbs would you say the yz450fx is for me? Or should I go a different route? I live in Indiana and going to race xc
Without knowing how you ride and your conditioning it’s hard to make a recommendation but some things to think about. The FX is pretty tame for a 450 when turned down but my 350 is still easier to ride due to the reduced torque. I would even consider a 250 if you’re just getting back into it. If you could swing 2 bikes keep the 450 and add a 250. If you can’t, maybe a 350 would be the best of both worlds. If I could only have 1 bike… it would be a 350. It really is that sweet spot for power. I’m sure you know this already but seat time will help with whatever bike you decide to race.
@JRideRR i go to the gym every morning I run with a 70lb backpack 2 to 3 miles with my 2 sons I try staying in shape the best I can but when I stopped riding bikes I went to trucks and side by sides but now getting back into the bikes I have that fear and uncertainty all over again
Okay, so it sounds like your fitness is on the right track. 👍 If you know anyone with a 350 or 250 I’d see if they’d let you ride it. Are you an aggressive rider or more of a smooth rider?
@JRideRR I'm neither at the moment I'm trying to survive haha I use to be aggressive but at the moment I get arm pump so bad so so fast I want to be smooth and fast so I can start getting on the podium with my kids
@JRideRR so what do you think sir just based on our conversation?
Good looking bike
Can you detune this to mimic a 350? Just curious if that can happen and how it would compare to your KTM.
This is a popular question and with the tuner app I can make the first 1/4 throttle have a smoother power delivery than the 350, the YZ still has that 450 torque after 1/4 throttle. I can’t detune the TQ and you’ll never be able to change the difference in rotational mass in the engine. These are the two big differences between the 350 & 450 to me so far.
Thanks for the video and review!
I’m currently on a YZ250X and ridden 2 strokes all my life but debating between the ktm 350f and one of the Offroad X models and the YZ450FX is near the top of my list. Mostly riding moto with a bit of Offroad. Which would you recommend or like better for mostly moto with some Offroad and single track mixed in?
Welcome! For mainly Moto with some single track mixed in I’d say the FX would be my pick. I really like the FX on the Moto track.
@@JRideRR thanks for the feedback sir!
What Renthal bar were you using? I want something with more sweep back.
That was a Renthal 603 Reed/Windham bend.
@@JRideRR Thank you. Really enjoyed your 450FX videos and subscribed.
Ive currently got an '18 husky fx350 and a '14 yz450f heavily considering selling both and buying one of these as whenever I'm on the 350 i miss the 450s power and on the 450 i get sick of kickstarting. But my question is it sounds like the traction control is built into whatever map you're running? I never use it on the husky and when i asked about it at the dealership while looking for a tc off button the idiot salesman told me they didn't have it at all.
Correct. TC is adjustable in whatever map you’re running. Off, TC low or TC high are your options. I wish you could turn it on/off on the bar but you cannot. It also has programmable launch control. You should probably buy one. 😜
Would this be a good bike if i wanted a do it all type of bike.. meaning i can go ride some tight trails one weekend and hit the track the next? I cant afford 2 bikes lol
Yes. I think it’s a great all around bike. I currently ride it in all disciplines and it does well. 👍
It’s also a good bike if you ever wanted to make it a supermoto. Sure there’s the WR but I’m switching from a wr450 to one of these so I can do all 3 types of riding. Not too hard to put a legal kit on this bike either.
I ended up with a TX 300 😂
Nice. 👍
@@JRideRR never owned a 2 stroke and figured it was time so far I’m loving it just adjusting to having little to no engine braking coming down steep steep hills I carry a lot more speed. Still figuring out that sweet spot in the brakes to not lock them up and knife the front or skid the rear
Do you ever get head shake a faster speeds?
Yes. That was one of the first things I noticed the first ride out. I rode some Moto and the front end was pretty twitchy at speed.
@@JRideRR did you find a solution to the head shake?
@@danielgardner5822 Not yet. I’m going to try running the forks 2.5mm in the clamps. Right now I’m at 4mm. Factory Connection recommends 2.5-5mm. I went with 4mm as that’s where they were set from the factory.
I'm 46 years old, 6'1, 255lbs. Haven't ridden in 15 years, but rode most of my youth. I raced some mx back in the day. Considering gncc. Which bike would you recommend
With that much time off the bike I'd initially say 350. Give yourself some time to get back into riding shape. If that 450 is really calling your name... detune it with the app, suspension may work out for your weight and get ready for some scary moments when you whiskey throttle it. It has already bit me a few times. Haha. Go sit on them and see which feels better to you. If you can't find an FX to sit on, just sit on the F and remember the FX has a slightly lower seat height. I believe it's 10mm lower. I can't personally speak to longevity of the YZ since it's so new. 60hrs on the KTM and so far so good.
get a seat cover. stock is slippery. this comes from multiple motorcross pros.
Where are you riding at
North FL.
This bike demands a rider somewhere near an A ability in order to get the most out if it.
can you ride , looked very clumsy . 70 to 80 kg stock suspension is great, unless a learner .
@motozz8258 Damn... guess not. Post some videos to teach me how.